My mom wanted to play this but has only ever played Animal Crossing. She struggled a little bit with it but got through it and was really happy and excited. Sometimes those of us who play games often forget what it’s like for people who have never picked up a controller. That being said, I agree that it feels a little wrong that because it’s Peach, it’s simple & agree about the performance as well. I struggle to believe this deserves the $60 price tag.
I feel that way about the difficulty level too. I thought that so much about the criticism around Wonder with adults saying how much easier they found it than Mario when they were a kid. And like yeah, they were kids and theyve now been playing games like 30 years. I wondered (ugh) if any of the people making that criticism had small children in their families or if they just like super trained their kids on games like dance moms so they aren't allowed to be mediocre, lol. I know the kids in my life struggled with Mario Wonder. PPS is absolutely intended as a kids game, but it will work for very casual or cosy gamers too.
Yeah wth is with arlo? he's been getting weirdly nitpicky and seems to be losing his scope lately, It seems like he forgot that just because it doesnt have the technical depth of street fighter doesnt mean its a game for 5 year olds. My wife for example finds it charming and I have to agree. Peach is literally going around giving people hope in a dark time, Its so nice compared to everything else available and it would seem silly to gatekeep that with pointless difficulty or complexity. As for the price, lets be honest, if it were 40 everyone would be complaining they did peach dirty and wouldnt buy the game because "Nintendo doesnt believe its worth full price"
@@daniel8181I agree so wholeheartedly. I have three daughters, one of which is a _gamer_. This will be too easy for her, but she loves watching others play. The other two are dying to play this, and one has played the demo. For her, this is the first game she hasn’t needed help, and she’s 14. She was so happy and achieved flow right away, something she otherwise never manages in games. All three were gushing and squealing around the TV during the entire demo about how adorable everything was and how her voice is so pretty and the costumes! And the theets! And the stars are so cute! I don’t know-maybe Arlo isn’t a game reviewer. When it’s a game made for him, then it seems like he is a reviewer, because the review matches the audience. But there’s no attempt to review a game from a neutral perspective or from the intended audience’s perspective. So, if I think of Arlo as just a guy who’s obsessed with video games, has been playing them forever and adores talking about them, then it’s fine. But it’s not really reviewing games a lot of the time.
"Sometimes those of us who play games often forget what it's like for people who never picked up a controller" Thissssss! It's kinda tough to create games that cater to everyone nowadays
@@princessnavi8815 The obvious retort here is "difficulty settings" but this fails to take into account that: -Devs seem hellbent on not letting you adjust them -This fails to address the issue of game tone -You cant really fix confusing games with a difficulty change (think of how much "game language" you know that they dont, like "always shoot red barrels") -It is actually hard to balance difficulties (which makes it even more annoying that you cant later change them) Its so much nicer to just make games for differing tastes and experience, and for the gamers to accept that not everything has to be about them. Look how many MILLIONS of more zelda fans there are now because Nintendo decided to make a game for everyone, as opposed to a few million "hardcore" people that weren't buying the games anymore anyway. Nintendo feels like the only company that wants me to play games with my family as opposed to locking myself in a dark room to be lonely with a 60 dollar time sink.
my 10 year old daughter played demo 3 times now and cant wait for the game but seriously this is a game aimed for younger ones especially ones that love barbie and peach
YES but in 2024 ... GAYming is in full effect XD ... all GROWN A$$ MEN are playing this game ... back in my day, boys never played with dolls XD ... the whole world has gone GAY.
Yeah that definitely seems to be who it’s made for. Which, as an adult, I’m a little sad about, but there’s definitely a way to make it for all ages, like your usual Kirby or Mario games, but I’m not so sure this game does that :/ maybe it’s just bc these are tutorials at the beginning, but I’ll try not to get my hopes up too much
@@rhettmitchellit's easy to forget this as adult gamers but even your usual kirby's and Mario's are too complex and challenging for a newcomer to finish. I had Mario and Pikmin 9n the Wii before I hit double digits, and I enjoyed them, but not as much as i enjoyed kirby epic yarn (a game criticised for being too easy, even for a kirby game). Epic yarn was the first game I ever finished, and my brother and I have probably clocked a few hundred hours just having fun and replaying our favourite levels, because it was the only game we had that felt welcoming and fun rather than a frustrating challenge. My point is, this game will have a very important and special place for other young gamers now. And I know it sucks when a cool looking game isnt for you, but we experience that with adult/everyone games too, like loving the concept of pokemon but hating the gameplay for example, I'm sure you can think of times you've personally experienced this for reasons other than target audiences age. I just dont want to see this game getting slandered because it wasnt made with adult gamers in mind, you know?
Actually really glad to hear this game is simple. My daughter's eighth birthday is days after the launch and, while she loves video games and has been playing them for ages, her skill level is pretty low. She regularly loses to the computer during Mario Party, even when playing on easy. But she loves games, and especially loves Peach. Plus, she is very into fashion and outfits. Essentially, this game was made for her. We have a new baby coming any day now, and this game is the perfect birthday present for when we have a new baby and can't do very much. Gameplay she won't need help to master with a character and premise she heavily identifies with. There are times to challenge her game skills and reach for mastery. This isn't it, and I am so glad to hand this to her.
Same. My daughter is 8 and has been asking me when the game is coming out for months but has pretty much the exact same skill level as yours. So uh, not great lol. The sigh of relief I blew out when Arlo said it’s “too easy” haha
@@MikeM8891ya my 5 year old finished it this morning. It was tricky for her, but I didn't have to intervene directly so good difficulty for a newbie. I think she died once at the sword fighter boss, as timing the jump was tricky. She had some trouble with the mixing mini game too, so I agree with Arlo on that fully. Overall she can't wait for mermaid peach lol, so it's definitely gonna be a buy for us.
Nintendo Life compared them to the original Lego Star Wars games. Something that isn't terribly challenging but makes up for it in charm. After playing the demo, I can say I agree with them. Also, her having different voicelines for once is jarring at first!
For me the biggest issue here isn’t the difficulty, it’s that the game is way too simplistic. Take Kirby as an example: are Kirby games easy? Yes, obviously. Are they simplistic? Not at all! Kirby has such a great variety of moves that make every moment of gameplay feel at least a bit interesting. Peach Showtime on the other hand just has that feeling where all you do is walk up to The Thing and press The Button. I guess that’s engaging for really young children, but so are Kirby games with all their optional complexity.
This I can agree with. I'm not the biggest fan of Kirby games due to the difficulty, but I can 100 percent understand the appeal of multiple weapons as a person that puts a lot of stock into replayability. Specifically, though, you hit the nail on the head here with your last sentence. Here a few people have said "it isn't for me, it's for others" and I mean no hate to those people, it's fine to think that. But in my opinion, what is the other audience here? Young children. But like you say here, yeah they're for younger children, but Kirby games (other games too speaking broadly) can be as well. So with things like this, I do think it's a valid criticism. Why limit the audience when Nintendo games tend to be about bringing a lot of audiences together?
@@Cheesehead302 In this game's case the "others", in my opinion, would be people who likes simplicity. That want a game just to relax and have a chill time. Neither hard or complex, just to play, have fun, and for a moment forget the problems you may be having. And there is nothing wrong in that. Not everyone want to arrive at home after a long day at work or school, and play a complex tactical RPG or puzzle game that requires a lot of thinking, or a hardcore game that requires many attempts and perfect play to complete it. Peach's Showtime looks to me like one of these simple games that you play to just enjoy yourself, like Kirby's Epic Yarn, Animal Crossing, or any farming game. Can be a fun time, but not for all. Of course, we are having this opinion just based on the demo, which has the first 2 levels. Who knows what else this game has to offer in later stages, although... I have a feeling the dificulty will not change much during the endgame.
I’d argue there is an optional complexity to this, with the collectibles and such. I haven’t gotten them all yet, having run through the first level a couple of times.
@@Cheesehead302 Kirby is fun, it gets considerably better with friends tbh, Also it's quite funny how they love to hide something absurdly hard in the game that they know no one but like some 20 year old is gonna find.
I actually really enjoyed the demo. Sometimes I’m too tired after work to dive into a game that has complex systems or fast action, and this was a calm, charming, relaxing gaming experience. I’ll be getting it when it comes out.
I played the demo yesterday and I thought it was fine. I can understand the criticisms you have, but I feel like this is going to be one of those games that's largely focused on the presentation, and the gameplay is merely just a means to let you observe the world. It's kind of like those old school LucasArts games like Monkey Island or Sam & Max; you don't play them for the actual pointing and clicking, you play them for the silly and inventive characters and scenarios they have on display. Keep in mind, this is mostly just my assumptions based on the two levels we got from the demo. I feel like the later stages and gameplay styles will be a bit more involving than what Swordfighter Peach and Baker Peach (because I'm too dumb to remember the actual name lol) gave us in what are clearly meant to be tutorial levels for their respective outfits
Yeah I really hope so. The sword level just doing all the dodging and final blows for you just really freaked me out, though. The moveset wasn’t super deep either. It seems to be moreso about the spectacle of it all, though. And it was also the tutorial. Maybe more depth will come later
I don't think its silly to engage with the game on a critical level, I actually really appreciate it! Between the growing laziness in big entertainment corporations like nintendo and disney, the looking down upon of children's media, and this being like, only the SECOND time peach (The only major female character in Mario) has ever gotten a spin off, it's really important to critically engage with media like this! it's such a shame that the gameplay doesn't have depth, I would've loved to play another peach spin off game after growing up on the one with the parasol and emotions. I just wish peach's game was treated with as much respect as mario's are
So because it’s made for a younger audience it’s ‘disrespectful’? If the game was actually cheaper like people want it to be, would that be disrespectful too? Because Nintendo doesn’t believe Peach or a pretty female protagonist is worth as much as Mario? Y’all will criticise literally everything even when it’s not a big deal and then act shocked when you’re called cynics. Go figure. Not everything is made for you and you can’t make a critique while failing to analyse the context.
@@MissTwister12 I think you and the OP both made good points. I think the OP was saying that because he/she likes Peach he wanted Peach to be given more actually. I agree games don't have to cater to everyone but I have to admit the Peach game demo felt lacking and could've been more. Especially for the expensive price tag. Idk. The game could be turn out better than the demo.
@@MissTwister12I didn't mean to imply that the younger age demographic is the problem, I'm sorry I did. That is not the problem at all, especially since most of Nintendo's library has appealed to younger ages while still being enjoyable for older ages. I didn't even consider the price point, and I don't think it has much bearing on the conversation I'm trying to have. I do actually think that Nintendo isn't treating Peach with as much respect as Mario, seeing as she has had two spin off games with a distance of 19 years between them, and he is at the helm of dozens of games. Now that she does have a game, don't you think it's a bit messed up that she isn't given the flexibility of other titles in Nintendo's catalog to appeal to adult demographics (Mario, Zelda, Etc.)? Especially because it is Mario games, a famously versatile game that can appeal to kids and adults alike, that Showtime is a spin off of, without the same effort put into making the game for all ages? Making a game complex and yet still accessible. like this is totally possible, and has been done by Nintendo time and time again. For example, pokemon (used to) have ivs, evs, breeding mechanics, natures, items, abilities, and I'm sure even more depth that I don't know about since I'm not in competitive circles, even though it includes very young age ranges. This wouldn't be so saddening to me, if it hadn't been the first peach game in NINETEEN years, after her first one in 2005. This will pretty much set a precedent for any more games (if there are any) going forward. I suppose it isn't really a big deal, a video game side character isn't getting a good spin off, oH nO. But I wanted to critic this anyway, because as I said, I played the 2005 game for a lot of my childhood, and I never beat it. I love peach, a lot, she's a character that I've always wanted to see regain the spotlight. Only, it's personally disapointing to see her return in this way, a way that because of my experience in video games i can't enjoy as much. It is a bit of a worrying trend though. Nintendo is sort of slipping in terms of games. Like the recent super incomplete and buggy pokemon games, and the UI of TOTK showing that details are not being appreciated and shown the attention they have been in prior Nintendo games. Nintendo has always been a staple of gaming, an excellent, well-polished game developer. But now, as I play their games, as Nintendo is worth billions of dollars, I don't find that nigh perfection any more. I find cut corners, a lack of care, and I find Princess Peach's first game in 19 years to lack that Nintendo charm, so far away from the excellence of the very thing it is spinning off, like Mario Odyssey and Mario Wonder. I suppose it will still be a good game for little kids, perhaps a defining one in some of their lives, with its incredible art direction. But I look at it, and because I love it, see its potential, know its history, and its place among the growing mediocrity of Nintendo, I can't help but wish it could be more. More like the masterpieces that used to come out of nintendo. Shit I should just scrap this comment and write an essay with how much I wrote, lol. TLDR: I'm just sad that my best girl peach doesn't have the best game she can. And the lack of care she has been afforded in appealing to all ages shows a way that Nintendo has been slowly falling into mediocrity. This thing is so long, I should just scrap it and write an essay lol.
@@robrobrobot6867 I agree with you about the Peach game overall but I'm curious what you mean by the UI in TOTK because I didn't see anything wrong with it when I played. Also Nintendo does not develop the Pokemon games they only publish them so I wouldn't say they are directly to blame for their quality as of late and Pokemon still has EVs and breeding and all that stuff I'm not sure why you think they don't.
@@koifish835Oh, by the UI in TOTK I meant the little menu where you select which item you want to fuse to an arrow. I find it bad design because it made you pause in the middle of action to make you scroll through a huge menu for what you wanted. I should have elaborated on that lol. As for not directly publishing them, the initial quality of the game is not their fault, but they are still publishing them. It is nintendo's responsibility to make sure that the pokemon games are high quality, as that is partially the job of a publisher. We wouldn't have gotten the insanely broken and buggy release of Scarlet and Violet if the Pokemon company had not been okay with the quality of it. Pokemon still has Evs and breeding and stuff, but in recent generations there have been weird inconsistencies and trivializations of the mechanics. For example, the infamous exp share, the ability to train EVs through a minigame in X & Y (I believe it's X & Y, its one of the 3Ds games for sure), and Legends Arceus has neither abilities nor breeding mechanics plus it adds a way to change natures through a consumable item. Those are the ones I can think off of the top of my head.
I’m torn, because my kids love Peach and are the right age for this and are bad enough at games that the low difficulty would be a plus, but it also just looks boring enough that they might lose interest and then I’m out $60. At $30-40 this would be a no-brainer, but I’ll probably wait to see if I can find it on sale later.
Well with their inflated Prices Nintendo made sure ill never just buy a game. We had the Bluey game and the MLP one, nice games, kinda, well done mostly but even our girl burned through em in one day each and thats still 40€ each... like go 20-25 and its ok, but 40+? meh...
I’m thinking it miiiight keep their attention, since it really is pretty to look at, and all the different outfits change up the game so drastically in every level. Not sure how much that’s gonna do if the rest of the game feels as boring as the demo though :/ I’m really not super hopeful about it
I played it and enjoyed it, it felt fine to me. It’s a very cozy Nintendo game, it’s made by the same team behind the recent Yoshi titles and Epic Yarn Kirby titles. Really looking forward to playing the game
It was definitely super easy, but I'm trying to keep in mind that they're literally the first levels in the game. But more over, I kind of don't mind a game with a more casual feel to it when it has as much charm as this game does. One of my favorite parts of the demo was during the Sword Fighter stage where there's a segment with a ton of cut-out bushes. It made me think of Paper Mario and there was just something super cozy about that. Same with the lobby. I just really like the vibes all around. Obviously, that isn't for everyone - and I can totally understand why someone wouldn't like it as much. But, I don't know - I like the atmosphere so much that even if the game doesn't get much more difficult, I'd probably still enjoy it.
Never played crafted world, but epic yarn was great. Sometimes I like to play games that want me to be happy, as opposed to depressed, moody, angry, or whatever.
to me, it was pretty obvious right away that this game wasn't made for hardcore gamers who've been playing games for a long time. i bet kids will love this. it has very Barbie energy, with Peach rapidly changing personas. however, as a kid's game, i do have a criticism. why does Nintendo insist on never having voice acting in these games? if young kids are supposed to play this, it expects them to do a lot of quick reading.
Not to mar your point, because Voice acting is a good thing. But its good for kids to pick up on how to quick read especially now that literacy rates and levels are at an all time low. Its E10+/Pegi7 so around the time when reinforcing stronger reading habits is appropriate. Though voice acting would help to reinforce that too.
@@runicex2310 this is a good point, and i do owe a lot to video games for my ability to read and write. but a lot of this game's text only appears for a few seconds, and then fades away while other distracting stuff is happening on-screen. i think that prevents kids from processing everything that's happening, and definitely from reading everything available.
@@runicex2310 While I agree with you that literacy is too low nowadays, lets be honest with that this is just cost cutting most of the time. Nintendo does not think "kids should be reading more when playing our games", its an unintended benefit if anything
Dude this. Until I had a kid I never realized it, but honestly voice acting would probably be enough for my kid to sit and watch me play this like it was a movie. Without voice acting the cutscenes seem so odd
"I bet kids will love this" bro I never see kids playing on switches at all, they are either playing Roblox on their phones or watching stupid Tiktok videos, my little sister has a switch and hardly uses it and just plays Roblox
To be wholly honest, I knew from the very first teaser that the game was gonna be insanely easy. But I’m still very excited for the game, still gonna play it, and I’m still certain that I’m gonna love it. I don’t think Peach needs a Mario or DK-level quality game YET; just let Nintendo test the waters a bit and see what kind of games work best for her, because like Arlo said, she deserves the best. Ngl, kinda itching to try the demo now.
your nephew has been keeping up through this whole generation like smash and kirby! im not mad that they made a game for tiny kids, im just mad they thought kids couldnt handle anything more than this
Frankly, it's just not my thing, and I understand it wasn't even made for me in the first place, I'm glad Nintendo is catering to more audiences (Edit: Stop Arguing in the comments damn)
The only issue is, the gameplay is just uninteresting. It doesn't have to be hard, but I do expect Nintendo to be creative and mechanically interesting. This game just looks like a "push button to win" sort of experience, but I hope I get proven wrong!
You should tell Twitter that not everything is made for you, no matter who "you" are. I guess grown men can't use their exclusion as a political weapon 🤷
@@squireturnboltyeah I don’t get why people are defending this when it’s so obvious to me that Mario games & spinoffs still have a lot of depth in the movement and/or level design, even if the overall experience is quite easy.
This game is literally Puppeteer. From the stage play aesthetic, to taking on different 'costumes,' to the slashing of vines, to spiraling around a white castle. It's Puppeteer.
Sluggish was the first thought that came to mind when I played with my 7yo too. It’s like there’s no contact with anything. The ribbon swirls around and it makes contact with stuff but it just feels like button mashing. Was disappointed it has so much text to read for a game aimed at such a young audience too. No voices
It’s leaked out that Good-Feel was the developer. They made some of my favorite games (Kirby’s Epic Yarn, etc) that seemed simplistic at first but were a delight to play. Based only on that, I’m hoping for better things when people get the full game.
The baker level was super fun! I’m looking MUCH more forward to this game now. I hope the gem locations become more fun and tricky as the game goes on too! I actually missed a couple and thought it was great that you actually have to be clever to find some of those things!
My comment I left on the first Peach Showtime video seems to be right on the money: It's a "Genre Sampler" made for little kids to help their parents understand what kinds of games their kids like to play and therefore what kinds of games to buy for them.
@@TheMail518 Of course the Mario IP will bump up the price. But I am saying that the game itself is not deserving of a price tag that exceeds something like $30. Regardless of Peach being apart of the Mario cast
This sounds like a weird detail, but I always hoped a new Peach game would use her float mechanics she has in Smash/new Mario games. It's such a unique mechanic that could REALLY create very unique levels only she could get through. A bit disappointed, but oh well. Hopefully, if this sells well, we'll get that for the next Peach game.
I remember Super Princess Peach gave you the ability to swing the umbrella while running instead of slowing you down, but you had to beat Bowser to get it. Basically play the entire game to get a version of Peach that played more smoothly. I wouldn't be shocked if they repeat that mistake.
I really loved and still do love the vibe of the game. It fits Peach very well, and I get that it's meant to be an "entry level" video game. But the Sword-fighter section honestly just felt like it played itself. I feel like Kirby is the edge of "casual" where it's still fun to play even if you're older, anything easier and more simplified feels a bit too much imo. But that's just me, I am a grown adult after all.
I'll be interested to see if this game has any difficulty curve. I sort of felt like the point of the first two levels was purely to teach you the basic mechanics of the game straightaway, not necessarily to challenge you. Either way, I think there's a very good chance I will purchase this one. I tried out the demo at the end of a really long and stressful day, and the cute, upbeat vibes were exactly what I needed to turn my evening around. The game doesn't feel soulless or cash-grabby, so I want it to do well enough that Nintendo doesn't give up on the idea, and continues to improve with more solo Peach games. Preferably without us having to wait another 14 years for the next one.
I actually had fun 😅 there's time trials and collectibles to add a little difficulty, but come on it's just the first two levels Arlo, it's not Dark Soul
@@Aktedya1-jt7vw they aren't time trials, they are more like timed challenges for a specific transformation, called Reharsals. They require you to get a specific amount of points by doing different things depending on the tranformation and i admit: they aren't easy, at all. They aren't incredibly difficult, but will definetly require multiple attemps and mastering each transfornation's abilities and limits since you will reach the gold trophy at the last seconds and you can't take damage
I played Super Princess Peach when I was younger and LOVED it. Peach was my favorite character and I credit that game for teaching me to platform. I played the demo for this game and it made me feel really nostalgic. I'm a lot older now but would still like to get this game. I'm glad a whole new generation of girls (and boys!) will get to experience a Peach game to teach them like I did. Although I am hoping there might be a difficulty setting or the difficulty will increase. In all honesty I'm just excited Peach FINALLY got another game.
It’s funny that you mention that it’s designed for a five year old because my daughter loves the demo and we’re planning on getting her the full game for her 5th birthday. I weirdly appreciate them making a first-party game specifically for kids, but it would be nice to play a harder version of what we got
I really loved this game. It’s simple and cute and it’s something I can turn my brain off at the end of the day and enjoy. I love Nintendo games but I’ve always wanted a princess centered game and I feel like this does a pretty good job at it. I love complicated games but it’s so refreshing to have a simple game with adorable designs. As the game continues I genuinely found it a little difficult to get all the stars to get 100% on each level.
The game is really amazing, and it’s not targeted for all people. It’s a chill stylish game, and it’s for the experience. Not too difficult, but very laid back. I’m glad they went this direction.
Well I’m 29 and am extremely excited for this one! Enjoyed the demo, even if the controls are a bit simple. Looking forward to something easy, cute, and feminine to unwind with after a long day at work :) Enjoy the PNW! It’s so lovely up here 🖤
I didn't have any of those issues with the game. I don't think it's so easy it's boring, it's interesting and fun! (There's also some super-challenging bonus sections if you really need that.) The ribbon attack isn't sluggish or slow, that feels just fine to use as normal Peach. There were choppy loading screens but the gameplay isn't choppy for me. But maybe when you're not crazy about a game it seems worse, and when you like a game like I do it seems better. (: I hope everyone who plays has fun!
Yeah, I get it. It wasn't a mind-blowing demo, but I'm already in the mentality that this game is going to be like a Kirby game, which means super easy but also fun. I did notice everything Arlo talked about in the video, but I've been fooled by bad demos before, so I still have a lot of optimism for this game
This seems like it’s aiming for an audience a bit younger and less experienced than what Kirby does. Kirby’s copy abilities can have stuff to provide (optional) depth to still be engaging for older players. Stuff like the post game True Arena content where the difficulty ramps up, or inputs like a fighting game style quarter circle for Kirby’s fighter ability to use the hadoken like move faster and stronger, or other more complicated input methods for moves certain copy abilities have (though those kind of moves weren’t really brought into Forgotten Land so they may stick as a 2D Kirby only thing).
From what I hear, this game was created by the same studio that created Yoshi's Crafted World: another game that people say is too easy, doesn't feel very snappy to play, uses craft elements, and relies heavily on its charm. I watched my partner play the demo and the little guys (called "Theets" by the way) are adorable, the visuals are very pretty, and certain elements are indeed very charming (like purifying the birds stealing the sweets so they aren't evil anymore lol). So it's INCREDIBLY charming, but even just as an onlooker I felt that the game just didn't really have a "flow" if you know what I mean? And yeah, the more you talked about this being more like a game for children than a game for everyone, the more I could see what you mean. It's a shame that just because Peach is the star, she has to go on a "fake" adventure through plays in an overly easy game instead of an "actual" adventure intended for everyone. But it is what it is, I suppose.
I agree with one of the last points you make. I really don't like how because it's Peach that means a game starring her has to automatically be made so easy and boring that only little kids will like it. Mario games like Wonder give you options with characters that can't die so even younger children can play it no problem. There is no reason to not do the same for a Peach game other than the assumption that no adult (or to be more precise - no adult men) would ever want to play a game with a pink girlie-girl protagonist so why bother, right? I'm happy for all the young kids who will enjoy this game but I can't help but be disappointed that they didn't create something more with this.
I was so happy to see a takarazuka revue themed game and for peach to finally get her time to shine but yeah this is about what I expected the more we saw of the game... We need more fun takarazuka stuff, or a serious revue starlight action game.
literallyyy i share so many of the same criticisms arlo had with the demo but i’m tempted to buy the full game if only to see if there are any other takarazuka references
I actually really loved the demo! As a Kirby fan it kind of scratches the same itchy, I recognize it has pretty simple gameplay, but that doesn't bother me that much given how charming the whole presentation is, there were only 2 levels, but I saw potential in both tranformations, and.... OMG THERE ARE 11 COLLECTABLES PER LEVEL!? Sign me up!
I actually felt a bit of challenge for the demo gameplay, despite being an adult. I got a game over and wasn't expecting it to happen, since Arlo said it was easy. But he also has beaten Elden Ring more than once, so our ability thresholds are quite different. Either way, I get what Arlo is saying, and I agree with him if you also have his ability to want to play through hard games. I struggle a lot in video games, so Princess Peach Showtime was nice for me. A little hard, a lot of fun.
Im incredibly easy to please. I had a good time with it and i love the charm. Probably not worth $60 but it doesnt really bother me that much personally because im having a good time with it (though I probably wont be buying at launch, i dont really have the money to be spending willy nilly haha)
I think it’s going to start off easy as these are just introductory levels for the transformations therefore they need to make them simple. I think they’ll have more challenging levels for players who are looking for a challenge. Nintendo has always made games that appeal for all age groups and audiences so I’m not worried that this game is going to be “too easy” and even if it is, I still had a lot of fun in the demo and replayed in many times! FYI I’m 18 turning 19 soon and even though I’m an experienced gamer, I still had a blast in the demo! Pls don’t feel discouraged in buying the game if people say it’s for “young audiences”. I think this game is for all audiences and if you love something cozy and filled with glamor and personality, you’ll love this!
When this game was revealed, some people brought up Super Princess Peach and how they thought the emotion mechanic in that game was sexist, and how this was a better direction for Peach. Now I never played Super Princess Peach, but I fail to see how Peach getting her own full scale Mario-like adventure is more sexist than a laughably easy Barbie game for little kids. At least she's playable in Mario Wonder.
Learning that this game is developed by Good Feel (if rumors are to be believed) really puts things in perspective. Good Feel started by making a bunch of educational games for children 5 and under for DS in the 2000s. Yoshis Crafted World and their Kirbys Epic Yarn have continued this focus- very simple, approachable games for young gamers. So it’s fair to be a bit disappointed by some of the game design decisions, but it’s totally intentional and makes sense if the target demographic is 5 year olds. This isn’t a game for everyone, it’s for (very) young gamers.
The demo was quite good I find. As you say the gameplay is very simple but the presentation has tons of charm. It's probably a very relaxing game overall and that is fine.
It’s giving Yoshi game energy, visually pleasing and mechanically accessible but just too easy for even moderately skilled gamers. Hopefully Peach will continue to get new games and hopefully they’ll grow with their new fans
I was kind of thinking the same thing since it’s developed by the same developers, Good Feel. However, Yoshi’s Crafted World feels a little more enjoyable since it focuses more on the tried-and-true Yoshi moveset/platforming without the hand holding that the Peach game appears to have.
@@AirahsELL Even Kirby has that smooth ramp-up in difficulty should you choose to 100% a file, though, such that you _really_ have to work for the last 10% (this is something Pizza Tower did well too, incidentally). It makes it so the easy main game becomes a gateway drug for the more difficult stuff that would be a lot less approachable by itself.
I had a lotta fun with the demo. Still the 'feel' could definitely better. I also felt the font/lack of speech bubbles felt low effort. And the frames... yeah.. I just hope that's different in the full game.
I think the biggest warning sign in the demo that this game isn't going to get any less simple is that Swordfighter Peach doesn't even have a spin attack. Such a limited moveset does not bode well for people hoping that later Swordfighter levels are going to be more demanding.
@@papertoad456 Doesn't really make sense to me that they'd have a locked moveset like that. And enemy aggression isn't really a problem when all you have to do is tap the A button in the window of like a full second to perfect dodge.
@@Chiller326How is that any different from Mario levels holding off power ups and level concepts until later worlds? Like, you don't get the turbo and rocket nozzles in Sunshine until a lil ways in. While I dont know if I'm convinced it will go up in complexity, it's very possible the demo is the "tutorial" level per costume and you have return to the stages with harder levels.
@@amandaslough125 lol I think if the sword transformation had a spin attack it would have been in the tutorial level because it's an incredibly basic concept.
@@Bellyofthebeast6 just tried it and you can do it while standing still and slashing. It's a way to slash in the opposite direction and turn to face it at the same time. It's *something*, I'll grant you, but it feels less like a technique that's going to be tested by the game and more like a way to make the game even easier by allowing the player to suddenly attack the enemies behind them. I'd like to be proven wrong about all this.
I understand that it might be too easy. But the game looks nice and fun. I hope it get's more challenging but I like the different styles that Peach is going through.
I also felt the same way when it comes to depth of gameplay and the degree of polish (or not enough thereof) for an $80 CAD retail game. Focusing more on the presentation side of things and catering towards the younger audience doesn't mean it has to be at the expense of stripping depth from the gameplay. From what I've seen in the demo, the experience remains identical regardless of the playthrough, since there isn't much complexity behind the actions Peach can do and that there isn't any replay incentive outside the collectibles. The dodge mechanic of Swordfigther Peach feels inconsistent and isn't clearly explained well. Sometimes it works, but inexplicably not the other times. And at no point in the game explicitly shows the dodge timing and what it actually does, leading myself to "randomly" win mob and boss fights. Turns out that I was supposed to hit the jump button when a shockwave or enemy gets very close to Peach, but again the timing is unclear.
I enjoyed the demo, but I did notice several of the issues that you pointed out, and it does have me a little worried for the game’s overall quality. I do feel that the difficulty could have been upped just a little bit without compromising the style of the game. I’ll wait until the full game is released before I fully pass judgement, though.
Frankly, even if it's not for everyone, I'm just glad Peach is getting more and more out of the damsel-in-distress role she's been plaqued with for decades and fleshing out her personality a little. And considering that I've heard rumors that this is made by the same team that made Wario Land: Shake It, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Yoshi's Woolly World, and Yoshi's Crafted World, I'm not expecting much of a challenge in this game. But like the other games, it's cute and charming and that's probably enough for me to at least give the game a shot.
Just played it and love it, im a 30 year old male just for context, but I also work in the game dev world as an animator and loved checking every animation of the game, looking forward to check the rest of the costumes animations
Nintendo is completely capable of making games that appeal to kids, but still have depth that adults enjoy. Mario games have always been that, from their original platformers to their spin offs like early Paper Mario games. So to see a game like this is kinda... disappointing.
Reminds me of Rhapsody; A musical adventure. It was targeted at girls, so I guess they made it super easy? I still love the story. I just wish they HADN'T made it absurdly easy.
I got lost extremely bad like 2 hours into that game and could never find my way out so I just gave up on it. Shame cause it seemed kinda nice. I liked Cornet and the other party members
Yeah. I realize that I as a 20 year old man should not be the one making these takes, but it feels like every time a game is made that is specifically trying to aim itself at girls, it's always got to be absurdly easy, the kind of game that doesn't present many challenges at all (like Animal Crossing), or try to hide the fact that it's girly so it can market itself to all genders. I know the idea of things being "for girls" is something that has probably done more harm than good, but it really feels like AAA game devs cannot concieve the fact that a game can specifically for girls and not need to coddle them at all times. Animal Crossing getting progressively more and more scared to make their villagers rude to the player I think is another good example of this.
Actually, Rhapsody got 2 sequels that used to be Japan only and I can tell you the 3rd game is definitely not easy at all. A massive grind fest. I have seen the game over screen in it far too many times...
I enjoyed the demo and I know I suck pretty bad at games, but I didn’t think I sucked that bad. :P I couldn’t even find all the stars in the bakery level. Guess it’s a good game for an adult who enjoys games but sucks at games! I had zero intention to buy the game, but after the demo, I think will really like it!
As a fellow adult, I would agree with all this. I missed some stars in these first 2 levels and really wasn't looking forward to replaying them. And it seems really bad if you dread replaying levels. I absolutely loved Yoshi's Crafted World and was hoping this would be similar. Hopefully it gets better. The trailer did make some of the levels look neat.
@IliciaRodriguez0408 because voice acting in Nintendo games sucks, did everyone just forget about how notoriously terrible the voice acting was in Super Mario Sunshine? Also hot take but: text dialogue > voice acting, for any game.
About 5-10 minutes into the demo, I was Swordfighter Peach and had to defeat three enemies to progress. I defeated the first two, and then for some reason the third's sword disappeared and I couldn't attack it anymore. Had to deliberately die and try again. It's not usually a good sign when the DEMO has a glitch that impedes progress!
Eh, I’m looking forward to a simple game full of charm to play when I come from a 10 hour shift with disabled clients and then have to parent a preschooler after. Played the demo and it’s definitely not too easy when you have a disability in your hand, I actually really appreciate that it’s only two buttons. I was getting tired of games repeating mechanics left and right and am glad to see some creativity in gaming again. Everything feels stale and same-y. Peach feels like, well. Peach. I loved every second, every twirl, every pose and smile. This is the game young me would’ve needed and I suspect it will be a core memory for a lot of kids. It is not MADE for adults. Everyone needs to keep that in mind.
My wife played the demo (she plays cozy games like Animal Crossing and Stardew Valley) and she loved it. I watched as she played and it reminded me a lot of Kirbys Epic Yarn, so I’m not surprised to hear they’re by the same team. I would bet that in the full game even though completing the game will be very easy (like kirbys epic yarn) getting every bonus/time trial goal will be more challenging for those who want it. I think it’s a great approach for casual gamers and young kids, which is clearly the audience. But since we only saw the first two levels I’d wait and see if there’s any optional, more challenging modes (even like a new game plus or something) so there may even be some enjoyment for more seasoned players too
Something I noticed that I haven't seen anyone talk about is that the dress ribbons you gain seem to have an effect on Peach's base stats. It might just be my imagination, but after I got the patissier dress ribbon, it seemed like Peach's base movement speed went from "why is she moving so slow??" to a much more reasonable speed that actually felt good to play. Not sure what the swordfighter dress ribbon does, but my guess would be increasing jump height. The effect seems to stack as well, so having the patissier dress ribbon while being patissier Peach makes her move even faster, and having the swordfighter dress ribbon while being swordfighter Peach seems to make her jump reach further. If I'm correct about this and not just imagining it, then Princess Peach Showtime is going to be a very "earn your fun"-type game, which bodes well. Maybe there will even be special moves (like the backflip so sorely missing from Swordfighter Peach's movement) that can be unlocked with further dress ribbons! Nintendo did this game dirty by having the demo be the first two levels rather than cherrypicking the best bits to whet people's appetite. Still not worth the $60 pricetag imo, though. I am of the firm belief that games should be priced according to how much bang you get for your buck, rather than who's publishing it. If it's on the shorter, simpler side, it should be priced accordingly.
The moment I saw that this game was going to have Peach in a bunch of different style of gameplays, I knew it'd be a "jack of all trades master of none" situation. They really should've just had *one* thing, *one* idea, and master that for Peach. Who knows, if done right it could even have Peach get her own series of mainline games. Like Yoshi, Luigi, DK, Wario, and even Toad have their own consistent style of games.
As a 20 year old guy who considers myself a semi-seasoned gamer, I enjoyed the demo a lot. It felt like a cozy game that wasnt a life or farming sim, I am very much looking forward to getting this game and 100%ing it in probably just a day or two
I'm excited for it, especially since I never got Peach's first game, and I want an unapologetically feminine game. The simplicity showing through is annoying, but this is like the Mario version of the transformation route I'd love to see in a Shantae game. And Wonder already took Shantae's elephant transformation. I do hope the game gets some challenge and complexity by the end. It'd be really annoying if Peach finally gets a new game and they decide to make it the next entry of the "girl ghetto" list of mediocrity. Like, I do think there's a place for really easy cozy entry level games. But girls and kids in general deserve mental stimulation and quality games. And there's quite a few good videos discussing the subject.
From my experience I think this actually meets its target demographic really well. I have been playing it with my mom who is really inexperienced with video games. She has struggled significantly getting into most games. But with this game, not only is she able to get into it, but I can see her skill with video games actively improving. This is actually a game I will probably recommend to people new to video games because it acts as a really good way to get some of the skills people with years of gaming experience already have. Especially because the game rewards you so frequently I have found that it really inviting to new comers
This game definitely feels like its going to be very mixed among the community. Some will say " its aimed only at girls as a guy i can't like it". Others will like it for what it is. honestly I think it looks great bit im worried about how much content the game will have.
During the sword Peach stage I was hyped when I figured out that you could start your combos with a forward air attack as an extension for her ground combo when she lands. But then I stopped when I saw that everything dies in three hits and even the sub bosses came down to just quicktime. The only reward for exploration or going off rails are the collectable sparkles, but there really wasn't much else to explore or backtrack for. Even finding some more hidden health recovery drops would have been nice. Iirc you get a couple for helping the little guys but not much else. I do want to play more, but it might be one of those games I have to watch someone else play first. Lastly, all of Patisserie Peach's poses and animations made my heart flutter. Very cute.
I didn't mind the simplicity of the demo, sometimes I just need that in a game. (And, maybe rightly or wrongly, I figure it'll get at least a little more difficult later on) My main issue is the lack of customizability of the controls. What is Nintendo's big fascination with only allowing the A/B buttons to be used? Why can't I choose to use the Y/B buttons?
Super disapointed to hear this, this was easily the nintendo game I've looked forward to most in years. That's in no small part since I have a 6 year old daughter who is obsessed with the Mario IP and mario swtich games right now (though her favorite character is Rosalina) but also, as a grown man all the trailers looked incredible to me, the idea of all those different powers and every level being completely different gameplay instead of just more platforming with slight twists was super exciting. Anyway, I'm sure we'll be checking out the demo anyway to judge for ourselves, but this really is a huge let down to hear. Yes my daughter is 6, but when she was only 5 she 100% 3d World, and she refuses to use casual mode on Mario vs DK, and doesn't consider a stage beat unless she perfects it. Needless to say, she doesn't need her hand held and likes a nice challenge.
Ironically, while she seemed to enjoy the demo overal, the issue actually ended up being the difficulty was too high! She was having a blast until the cookie making part, I'm not sure if its an age related thing or what, cause I didn't find the tapping to mix particularly difficult myself, but my daughter just could not get Peach to mix the batter through tapping the button as fast as her little thumbs can do it. She tried both thumbs and even other fingers, but after 30 minutes of trying, I ended up having to do that part for her. It's not good if both adults like Arlo are finding it too easy and 6 year olds whose 100% 3d world are finding it too hard, you've missed both of your target audiences. I didn't actually play it myself (besides doing the mixing for her, which was a HUGE blow to her pride since she wants to do everything herself) but I will say it was fun to watch my daughter play at the least, its visually a joy to behold.
My mom wanted to play this but has only ever played Animal Crossing. She struggled a little bit with it but got through it and was really happy and excited. Sometimes those of us who play games often forget what it’s like for people who have never picked up a controller. That being said, I agree that it feels a little wrong that because it’s Peach, it’s simple & agree about the performance as well. I struggle to believe this deserves the $60 price tag.
I feel that way about the difficulty level too. I thought that so much about the criticism around Wonder with adults saying how much easier they found it than Mario when they were a kid. And like yeah, they were kids and theyve now been playing games like 30 years. I wondered (ugh) if any of the people making that criticism had small children in their families or if they just like super trained their kids on games like dance moms so they aren't allowed to be mediocre, lol. I know the kids in my life struggled with Mario Wonder.
PPS is absolutely intended as a kids game, but it will work for very casual or cosy gamers too.
Yeah wth is with arlo? he's been getting weirdly nitpicky and seems to be losing his scope lately, It seems like he forgot that just because it doesnt have the technical depth of street fighter doesnt mean its a game for 5 year olds. My wife for example finds it charming and I have to agree. Peach is literally going around giving people hope in a dark time, Its so nice compared to everything else available and it would seem silly to gatekeep that with pointless difficulty or complexity.
As for the price, lets be honest, if it were 40 everyone would be complaining they did peach dirty and wouldnt buy the game because "Nintendo doesnt believe its worth full price"
@@daniel8181I agree so wholeheartedly. I have three daughters, one of which is a _gamer_. This will be too easy for her, but she loves watching others play. The other two are dying to play this, and one has played the demo. For her, this is the first game she hasn’t needed help, and she’s 14. She was so happy and achieved flow right away, something she otherwise never manages in games. All three were gushing and squealing around the TV during the entire demo about how adorable everything was and how her voice is so pretty and the costumes! And the theets! And the stars are so cute!
I don’t know-maybe Arlo isn’t a game reviewer. When it’s a game made for him, then it seems like he is a reviewer, because the review matches the audience. But there’s no attempt to review a game from a neutral perspective or from the intended audience’s perspective. So, if I think of Arlo as just a guy who’s obsessed with video games, has been playing them forever and adores talking about them, then it’s fine. But it’s not really reviewing games a lot of the time.
"Sometimes those of us who play games often forget what it's like for people who never picked up a controller" Thissssss! It's kinda tough to create games that cater to everyone nowadays
@@princessnavi8815 The obvious retort here is "difficulty settings" but this fails to take into account that:
-Devs seem hellbent on not letting you adjust them
-This fails to address the issue of game tone
-You cant really fix confusing games with a difficulty change (think of how much "game language" you know that they dont, like "always shoot red barrels")
-It is actually hard to balance difficulties (which makes it even more annoying that you cant later change them)
Its so much nicer to just make games for differing tastes and experience, and for the gamers to accept that not everything has to be about them. Look how many MILLIONS of more zelda fans there are now because Nintendo decided to make a game for everyone, as opposed to a few million "hardcore" people that weren't buying the games anymore anyway. Nintendo feels like the only company that wants me to play games with my family as opposed to locking myself in a dark room to be lonely with a 60 dollar time sink.
my 10 year old daughter played demo 3 times now and cant wait for the game but seriously this is a game aimed for younger ones especially ones that love barbie and peach
That's awesome.
Same, my 8 year old daughter is super excited and loves it…. That’s who this game is for lol
YES but in 2024 ... GAYming is in full effect XD ... all GROWN A$$ MEN are playing this game ... back in my day, boys never played with dolls XD ... the whole world has gone GAY.
Yeah that definitely seems to be who it’s made for. Which, as an adult, I’m a little sad about, but there’s definitely a way to make it for all ages, like your usual Kirby or Mario games, but I’m not so sure this game does that :/ maybe it’s just bc these are tutorials at the beginning, but I’ll try not to get my hopes up too much
@@rhettmitchellit's easy to forget this as adult gamers but even your usual kirby's and Mario's are too complex and challenging for a newcomer to finish. I had Mario and Pikmin 9n the Wii before I hit double digits, and I enjoyed them, but not as much as i enjoyed kirby epic yarn (a game criticised for being too easy, even for a kirby game). Epic yarn was the first game I ever finished, and my brother and I have probably clocked a few hundred hours just having fun and replaying our favourite levels, because it was the only game we had that felt welcoming and fun rather than a frustrating challenge. My point is, this game will have a very important and special place for other young gamers now. And I know it sucks when a cool looking game isnt for you, but we experience that with adult/everyone games too, like loving the concept of pokemon but hating the gameplay for example, I'm sure you can think of times you've personally experienced this for reasons other than target audiences age. I just dont want to see this game getting slandered because it wasnt made with adult gamers in mind, you know?
“A Grown Man” I THOUGHT YOU WERE A MUPPE-
Grown puppet man
He's an arlo
You are what you eat! =)
@@Glory2SnowstarToday I learned that I am a plastic food container
@baphalopod OMG SAME!!!!❤
You mean Grown Monster, Arlo.
Why not split the difference with Grown Muppet?
grown manster
Is he a 🎵maaaaaan, or is he a puppet?!🎵
I assume that "man" can include fuzzy monsters as well.
Ha
Actually really glad to hear this game is simple. My daughter's eighth birthday is days after the launch and, while she loves video games and has been playing them for ages, her skill level is pretty low. She regularly loses to the computer during Mario Party, even when playing on easy. But she loves games, and especially loves Peach. Plus, she is very into fashion and outfits. Essentially, this game was made for her. We have a new baby coming any day now, and this game is the perfect birthday present for when we have a new baby and can't do very much. Gameplay she won't need help to master with a character and premise she heavily identifies with. There are times to challenge her game skills and reach for mastery. This isn't it, and I am so glad to hand this to her.
so happy for you and your daughter!!!! i hope she loves it 🩷
Same. My daughter is 8 and has been asking me when the game is coming out for months but has pretty much the exact same skill level as yours. So uh, not great lol. The sigh of relief I blew out when Arlo said it’s “too easy” haha
Challenge is how children develop. Why do we expect nothing from girls? Girls are just as competent as boys
If you don't have it already, Fashion Dreamer might be for her as well. :)
My 5 year old is unreasonably excited for this game. It's the first one they've asked for and had to wait for. Hopefully it lives up to her hopes!
Awhh
For a 5 year old, the demo might be enough. My girls, 4 and 6, played it today and enjoyed it and wanted more than the demo had.
@@MikeM8891ya my 5 year old finished it this morning. It was tricky for her, but I didn't have to intervene directly so good difficulty for a newbie. I think she died once at the sword fighter boss, as timing the jump was tricky.
She had some trouble with the mixing mini game too, so I agree with Arlo on that fully.
Overall she can't wait for mermaid peach lol, so it's definitely gonna be a buy for us.
@@MikeM8891my 7 year old is excited. It is the first game she will have bought with her own money. I did not know a trailer was out.
What is unreasonable about their excitement?
Nintendo Life compared them to the original Lego Star Wars games. Something that isn't terribly challenging but makes up for it in charm.
After playing the demo, I can say I agree with them.
Also, her having different voicelines for once is jarring at first!
That's such a perfect comparison IMO.
Will there be a pod racing section that will change people’s minds?
Okay but I loved the original Lego Star Wars games. I still go back and 100% TCS every once in a while. Maybe I will check this out!
@@fantaguyrealNo
@@fantaguyrealHow do you have 80k subscribers with shitty videos? I guess you just bought some bots from the internet. 😂
For me the biggest issue here isn’t the difficulty, it’s that the game is way too simplistic.
Take Kirby as an example: are Kirby games easy? Yes, obviously. Are they simplistic? Not at all! Kirby has such a great variety of moves that make every moment of gameplay feel at least a bit interesting.
Peach Showtime on the other hand just has that feeling where all you do is walk up to The Thing and press The Button. I guess that’s engaging for really young children, but so are Kirby games with all their optional complexity.
Yeah... I feel like the attack and dodge on Swordfighter Peach could easily be in different buttons.
This I can agree with. I'm not the biggest fan of Kirby games due to the difficulty, but I can 100 percent understand the appeal of multiple weapons as a person that puts a lot of stock into replayability. Specifically, though, you hit the nail on the head here with your last sentence. Here a few people have said "it isn't for me, it's for others" and I mean no hate to those people, it's fine to think that. But in my opinion, what is the other audience here? Young children. But like you say here, yeah they're for younger children, but Kirby games (other games too speaking broadly) can be as well. So with things like this, I do think it's a valid criticism. Why limit the audience when Nintendo games tend to be about bringing a lot of audiences together?
@@Cheesehead302 In this game's case the "others", in my opinion, would be people who likes simplicity. That want a game just to relax and have a chill time. Neither hard or complex, just to play, have fun, and for a moment forget the problems you may be having. And there is nothing wrong in that. Not everyone want to arrive at home after a long day at work or school, and play a complex tactical RPG or puzzle game that requires a lot of thinking, or a hardcore game that requires many attempts and perfect play to complete it. Peach's Showtime looks to me like one of these simple games that you play to just enjoy yourself, like Kirby's Epic Yarn, Animal Crossing, or any farming game. Can be a fun time, but not for all.
Of course, we are having this opinion just based on the demo, which has the first 2 levels. Who knows what else this game has to offer in later stages, although... I have a feeling the dificulty will not change much during the endgame.
I’d argue there is an optional complexity to this, with the collectibles and such. I haven’t gotten them all yet, having run through the first level a couple of times.
@@Cheesehead302 Kirby is fun, it gets considerably better with friends tbh, Also it's quite funny how they love to hide something absurdly hard in the game that they know no one but like some 20 year old is gonna find.
6:50.
Peach not being able to jump on spikeless enemies is cursed.
I was sooo confused when that happened. Is that a first in the Mario franchise? Jump on a normal enemy and YOU'RE the one who gets hurt??💀
@@thekiss2083if we count Mario Bros arcade then it isn’t a first, you couldn’t jump on enemies yet when that released
I actually really enjoyed the demo. Sometimes I’m too tired after work to dive into a game that has complex systems or fast action, and this was a calm, charming, relaxing gaming experience. I’ll be getting it when it comes out.
I played the demo yesterday and I thought it was fine. I can understand the criticisms you have, but I feel like this is going to be one of those games that's largely focused on the presentation, and the gameplay is merely just a means to let you observe the world. It's kind of like those old school LucasArts games like Monkey Island or Sam & Max; you don't play them for the actual pointing and clicking, you play them for the silly and inventive characters and scenarios they have on display.
Keep in mind, this is mostly just my assumptions based on the two levels we got from the demo. I feel like the later stages and gameplay styles will be a bit more involving than what Swordfighter Peach and Baker Peach (because I'm too dumb to remember the actual name lol) gave us in what are clearly meant to be tutorial levels for their respective outfits
Yeah I really hope so. The sword level just doing all the dodging and final blows for you just really freaked me out, though. The moveset wasn’t super deep either. It seems to be moreso about the spectacle of it all, though. And it was also the tutorial. Maybe more depth will come later
I don't think its silly to engage with the game on a critical level, I actually really appreciate it! Between the growing laziness in big entertainment corporations like nintendo and disney, the looking down upon of children's media, and this being like, only the SECOND time peach (The only major female character in Mario) has ever gotten a spin off, it's really important to critically engage with media like this! it's such a shame that the gameplay doesn't have depth, I would've loved to play another peach spin off game after growing up on the one with the parasol and emotions. I just wish peach's game was treated with as much respect as mario's are
So because it’s made for a younger audience it’s ‘disrespectful’? If the game was actually cheaper like people want it to be, would that be disrespectful too? Because Nintendo doesn’t believe Peach or a pretty female protagonist is worth as much as Mario? Y’all will criticise literally everything even when it’s not a big deal and then act shocked when you’re called cynics. Go figure. Not everything is made for you and you can’t make a critique while failing to analyse the context.
@@MissTwister12 I think you and the OP both made good points. I think the OP was saying that because he/she likes Peach he wanted Peach to be given more actually.
I agree games don't have to cater to everyone but I have to admit the Peach game demo felt lacking and could've been more. Especially for the expensive price tag.
Idk. The game could be turn out better than the demo.
@@MissTwister12I didn't mean to imply that the younger age demographic is the problem, I'm sorry I did. That is not the problem at all, especially since most of Nintendo's library has appealed to younger ages while still being enjoyable for older ages. I didn't even consider the price point, and I don't think it has much bearing on the conversation I'm trying to have.
I do actually think that Nintendo isn't treating Peach with as much respect as Mario, seeing as she has had two spin off games with a distance of 19 years between them, and he is at the helm of dozens of games. Now that she does have a game, don't you think it's a bit messed up that she isn't given the flexibility of other titles in Nintendo's catalog to appeal to adult demographics (Mario, Zelda, Etc.)? Especially because it is Mario games, a famously versatile game that can appeal to kids and adults alike, that Showtime is a spin off of, without the same effort put into making the game for all ages?
Making a game complex and yet still accessible. like this is totally possible, and has been done by Nintendo time and time again. For example, pokemon (used to) have ivs, evs, breeding mechanics, natures, items, abilities, and I'm sure even more depth that I don't know about since I'm not in competitive circles, even though it includes very young age ranges.
This wouldn't be so saddening to me, if it hadn't been the first peach game in NINETEEN years, after her first one in 2005. This will pretty much set a precedent for any more games (if there are any) going forward.
I suppose it isn't really a big deal, a video game side character isn't getting a good spin off, oH nO. But I wanted to critic this anyway, because as I said, I played the 2005 game for a lot of my childhood, and I never beat it. I love peach, a lot, she's a character that I've always wanted to see regain the spotlight. Only, it's personally disapointing to see her return in this way, a way that because of my experience in video games i can't enjoy as much. It is a bit of a worrying trend though. Nintendo is sort of slipping in terms of games. Like the recent super incomplete and buggy pokemon games, and the UI of TOTK showing that details are not being appreciated and shown the attention they have been in prior Nintendo games.
Nintendo has always been a staple of gaming, an excellent, well-polished game developer. But now, as I play their games, as Nintendo is worth billions of dollars, I don't find that nigh perfection any more. I find cut corners, a lack of care, and I find Princess Peach's first game in 19 years to lack that Nintendo charm, so far away from the excellence of the very thing it is spinning off, like Mario Odyssey and Mario Wonder. I suppose it will still be a good game for little kids, perhaps a defining one in some of their lives, with its incredible art direction. But I look at it, and because I love it, see its potential, know its history, and its place among the growing mediocrity of Nintendo, I can't help but wish it could be more. More like the masterpieces that used to come out of nintendo.
Shit I should just scrap this comment and write an essay with how much I wrote, lol.
TLDR: I'm just sad that my best girl peach doesn't have the best game she can. And the lack of care she has been afforded in appealing to all ages shows a way that Nintendo has been slowly falling into mediocrity.
This thing is so long, I should just scrap it and write an essay lol.
@@robrobrobot6867 I agree with you about the Peach game overall but I'm curious what you mean by the UI in TOTK because I didn't see anything wrong with it when I played. Also Nintendo does not develop the Pokemon games they only publish them so I wouldn't say they are directly to blame for their quality as of late and Pokemon still has EVs and breeding and all that stuff I'm not sure why you think they don't.
@@koifish835Oh, by the UI in TOTK I meant the little menu where you select which item you want to fuse to an arrow. I find it bad design because it made you pause in the middle of action to make you scroll through a huge menu for what you wanted. I should have elaborated on that lol.
As for not directly publishing them, the initial quality of the game is not their fault, but they are still publishing them. It is nintendo's responsibility to make sure that the pokemon games are high quality, as that is partially the job of a publisher. We wouldn't have gotten the insanely broken and buggy release of Scarlet and Violet if the Pokemon company had not been okay with the quality of it.
Pokemon still has Evs and breeding and stuff, but in recent generations there have been weird inconsistencies and trivializations of the mechanics. For example, the infamous exp share, the ability to train EVs through a minigame in X & Y (I believe it's X & Y, its one of the 3Ds games for sure), and Legends Arceus has neither abilities nor breeding mechanics plus it adds a way to change natures through a consumable item. Those are the ones I can think off of the top of my head.
I’m torn, because my kids love Peach and are the right age for this and are bad enough at games that the low difficulty would be a plus, but it also just looks boring enough that they might lose interest and then I’m out $60. At $30-40 this would be a no-brainer, but I’ll probably wait to see if I can find it on sale later.
download the free demo and see if your kids like it
Well with their inflated Prices Nintendo made sure ill never just buy a game. We had the Bluey game and the MLP one, nice games, kinda, well done mostly but even our girl burned through em in one day each and thats still 40€ each... like go 20-25 and its ok, but 40+? meh...
You are looking through adult eyes. It won't look boring to them. They get to play pretend as different "jobs"
By the time it's on sale your kids will be too old! 😂
I’m thinking it miiiight keep their attention, since it really is pretty to look at, and all the different outfits change up the game so drastically in every level. Not sure how much that’s gonna do if the rest of the game feels as boring as the demo though :/ I’m really not super hopeful about it
I played it and enjoyed it, it felt fine to me. It’s a very cozy Nintendo game, it’s made by the same team behind the recent Yoshi titles and Epic Yarn Kirby titles.
Really looking forward to playing the game
It was definitely super easy, but I'm trying to keep in mind that they're literally the first levels in the game. But more over, I kind of don't mind a game with a more casual feel to it when it has as much charm as this game does.
One of my favorite parts of the demo was during the Sword Fighter stage where there's a segment with a ton of cut-out bushes. It made me think of Paper Mario and there was just something super cozy about that. Same with the lobby. I just really like the vibes all around.
Obviously, that isn't for everyone - and I can totally understand why someone wouldn't like it as much. But, I don't know - I like the atmosphere so much that even if the game doesn't get much more difficult, I'd probably still enjoy it.
Agreed
Apparently, this game wasn’t even made by Nintendo. It’s made by Goodfeel, who made epic yarn, and Yoshi‘s crafted world.
Ahhhh, that would explain the difficulty
how do you know it's made by goodfeel?
@@jclkaytwoPeople datamined the demo and posted their findings online
@@jclkaytwoSomeone datamined the demo and posted their findings
Never played crafted world, but epic yarn was great. Sometimes I like to play games that want me to be happy, as opposed to depressed, moody, angry, or whatever.
I’ve heard of “the Grapes of Wrath”, but this is ridiculous!
Super Princess Peach on the DS is really easy at first, but by world 8 it ramped up substantially.
really hope we get a plumber peach, thatd be cute
to me, it was pretty obvious right away that this game wasn't made for hardcore gamers who've been playing games for a long time. i bet kids will love this. it has very Barbie energy, with Peach rapidly changing personas.
however, as a kid's game, i do have a criticism. why does Nintendo insist on never having voice acting in these games? if young kids are supposed to play this, it expects them to do a lot of quick reading.
Not to mar your point, because Voice acting is a good thing.
But its good for kids to pick up on how to quick read especially now that literacy rates and levels are at an all time low. Its E10+/Pegi7 so around the time when reinforcing stronger reading habits is appropriate. Though voice acting would help to reinforce that too.
@@runicex2310 this is a good point, and i do owe a lot to video games for my ability to read and write. but a lot of this game's text only appears for a few seconds, and then fades away while other distracting stuff is happening on-screen. i think that prevents kids from processing everything that's happening, and definitely from reading everything available.
@@runicex2310 While I agree with you that literacy is too low nowadays, lets be honest with that this is just cost cutting most of the time. Nintendo does not think "kids should be reading more when playing our games", its an unintended benefit if anything
Dude this. Until I had a kid I never realized it, but honestly voice acting would probably be enough for my kid to sit and watch me play this like it was a movie. Without voice acting the cutscenes seem so odd
"I bet kids will love this" bro I never see kids playing on switches at all, they are either playing Roblox on their phones or watching stupid Tiktok videos, my little sister has a switch and hardly uses it and just plays Roblox
To be wholly honest, I knew from the very first teaser that the game was gonna be insanely easy. But I’m still very excited for the game, still gonna play it, and I’m still certain that I’m gonna love it. I don’t think Peach needs a Mario or DK-level quality game YET; just let Nintendo test the waters a bit and see what kind of games work best for her, because like Arlo said, she deserves the best. Ngl, kinda itching to try the demo now.
your nephew has been keeping up through this whole generation like smash and kirby! im not mad that they made a game for tiny kids, im just mad they thought kids couldnt handle anything more than this
Frankly, it's just not my thing, and I understand it wasn't even made for me in the first place, I'm glad Nintendo is catering to more audiences
(Edit: Stop Arguing in the comments damn)
Facts. Games made for everyone are fun, but it's a million times more fun when it feels like a game made just for you.
Well, technically all of their other Mario games were for everyone, so in a way, having a targeted audience is a downgrade
The only issue is, the gameplay is just uninteresting. It doesn't have to be hard, but I do expect Nintendo to be creative and mechanically interesting. This game just looks like a "push button to win" sort of experience, but I hope I get proven wrong!
You should tell Twitter that not everything is made for you, no matter who "you" are. I guess grown men can't use their exclusion as a political weapon 🤷
@@squireturnboltyeah I don’t get why people are defending this when it’s so obvious to me that Mario games & spinoffs still have a lot of depth in the movement and/or level design, even if the overall experience is quite easy.
This game is literally Puppeteer. From the stage play aesthetic, to taking on different 'costumes,' to the slashing of vines, to spiraling around a white castle. It's Puppeteer.
Puppeteer is criminally underrated. So few people know about it, and that's a travesty.
Glad to see that it wasn't just me who got that feel from this game.
I know about it, but never got the chance. It's on my "keep an eye out for a remake" list.
Hmm, that's a good point, I didn't think of that🤔
I've been telling people this. I was hoping this game would really run the concept, but it's just not a fun game.
Sluggish was the first thought that came to mind when I played with my 7yo too. It’s like there’s no contact with anything. The ribbon swirls around and it makes contact with stuff but it just feels like button mashing.
Was disappointed it has so much text to read for a game aimed at such a young audience too. No voices
Funny how just weeks ago MatPat made a video about how hard it was to find a sweet spot for Baby's First Video Game these days
The levels are called Sword-1 and Patisserie-1, so it's possible the game will get harder. First levels are often effortless.
It’s leaked out that Good-Feel was the developer. They made some of my favorite games (Kirby’s Epic Yarn, etc) that seemed simplistic at first but were a delight to play. Based only on that, I’m hoping for better things when people get the full game.
The baker level was super fun! I’m looking MUCH more forward to this game now. I hope the gem locations become more fun and tricky as the game goes on too! I actually missed a couple and thought it was great that you actually have to be clever to find some of those things!
My comment I left on the first Peach Showtime video seems to be right on the money: It's a "Genre Sampler" made for little kids to help their parents understand what kinds of games their kids like to play and therefore what kinds of games to buy for them.
This game is way too expensive and going to be way too easy but I am going to enjoy myself playing as Peach and dressing her up in cute outfits :)
Should be a 40 dollar game
@@Jojo8.Are you goofy? It’s -undeserving- deserving of 300$!
@@Jojo8. I even think that’s STILL too high. And I say this as a huge Peach fan
you realize peach is a mario-related character right? So if the game is peach, Mario, luigi, wario, etc, it will be over $40 not under@@Aidswayz
@@TheMail518 Of course the Mario IP will bump up the price. But I am saying that the game itself is not deserving of a price tag that exceeds something like $30. Regardless of Peach being apart of the Mario cast
This sounds like a weird detail, but I always hoped a new Peach game would use her float mechanics she has in Smash/new Mario games. It's such a unique mechanic that could REALLY create very unique levels only she could get through. A bit disappointed, but oh well. Hopefully, if this sells well, we'll get that for the next Peach game.
new mario games? that was literally her signature ability in the very first game she was ever playable in
@@AgahnimDarkWizardit's so jarring the first time you realize she doesn't float in Super Mario Wonder
I remember Super Princess Peach gave you the ability to swing the umbrella while running instead of slowing you down, but you had to beat Bowser to get it. Basically play the entire game to get a version of Peach that played more smoothly. I wouldn't be shocked if they repeat that mistake.
this seem ideal for a classic nephew review
I really loved and still do love the vibe of the game. It fits Peach very well, and I get that it's meant to be an "entry level" video game. But the Sword-fighter section honestly just felt like it played itself. I feel like Kirby is the edge of "casual" where it's still fun to play even if you're older, anything easier and more simplified feels a bit too much imo. But that's just me, I am a grown adult after all.
Congratulations on the move Arlo!
I'll be interested to see if this game has any difficulty curve. I sort of felt like the point of the first two levels was purely to teach you the basic mechanics of the game straightaway, not necessarily to challenge you. Either way, I think there's a very good chance I will purchase this one. I tried out the demo at the end of a really long and stressful day, and the cute, upbeat vibes were exactly what I needed to turn my evening around. The game doesn't feel soulless or cash-grabby, so I want it to do well enough that Nintendo doesn't give up on the idea, and continues to improve with more solo Peach games. Preferably without us having to wait another 14 years for the next one.
I actually had fun 😅 there's time trials and collectibles to add a little difficulty, but come on it's just the first two levels Arlo, it's not Dark Soul
There's time trials?
@@Aktedya1-jt7vw in the full game
@@Aktedya1-jt7vw they aren't time trials, they are more like timed challenges for a specific transformation, called Reharsals. They require you to get a specific amount of points by doing different things depending on the tranformation and i admit: they aren't easy, at all. They aren't incredibly difficult, but will definetly require multiple attemps and mastering each transfornation's abilities and limits since you will reach the gold trophy at the last seconds and you can't take damage
I loved it. I had a lot of fun. I wasn’t planning on buying it but the demo convinced me.
I was excited but unsure about it until the demo! Can’t wait to grab it sometime soon!
@@okayemjay I’m excited to play as the ninja! And to see all the unique bosses.
It’s fun and new, that’s what convinced me too
I played Super Princess Peach when I was younger and LOVED it. Peach was my favorite character and I credit that game for teaching me to platform. I played the demo for this game and it made me feel really nostalgic. I'm a lot older now but would still like to get this game. I'm glad a whole new generation of girls (and boys!) will get to experience a Peach game to teach them like I did. Although I am hoping there might be a difficulty setting or the difficulty will increase. In all honesty I'm just excited Peach FINALLY got another game.
It’s funny that you mention that it’s designed for a five year old because my daughter loves the demo and we’re planning on getting her the full game for her 5th birthday. I weirdly appreciate them making a first-party game specifically for kids, but it would be nice to play a harder version of what we got
I really loved this game. It’s simple and cute and it’s something I can turn my brain off at the end of the day and enjoy. I love Nintendo games but I’ve always wanted a princess centered game and I feel like this does a pretty good job at it. I love complicated games but it’s so refreshing to have a simple game with adorable designs. As the game continues I genuinely found it a little difficult to get all the stars to get 100% on each level.
1:13 “I’m gonna be called silly… and probably other words that aren’t silly.” I love Arlo 😂
The game is really amazing, and it’s not targeted for all people. It’s a chill stylish game, and it’s for the experience. Not too difficult, but very laid back. I’m glad they went this direction.
Don't you mean "A grown monster's impressions?"
Being a monster doesn't exclude him from being a man
@@spacesandwich5593What is man?! A miserable pile of secrets... but enough talk, have at you!
@@spacesandwich5593 deep stuff
Yall rly like to roleplay in the comment section...
Well I’m 29 and am extremely excited for this one! Enjoyed the demo, even if the controls are a bit simple. Looking forward to something easy, cute, and feminine to unwind with after a long day at work :)
Enjoy the PNW! It’s so lovely up here 🖤
This is exactly why we need a 60 FPS Daisy game where Daisy fights Sephiroth with a golf club.
I’d buy it
I didn't have any of those issues with the game. I don't think it's so easy it's boring, it's interesting and fun! (There's also some super-challenging bonus sections if you really need that.) The ribbon attack isn't sluggish or slow, that feels just fine to use as normal Peach. There were choppy loading screens but the gameplay isn't choppy for me. But maybe when you're not crazy about a game it seems worse, and when you like a game like I do it seems better. (: I hope everyone who plays has fun!
Always a good day with a new Arlo video
The new princess peach game goes insanely hard
Arlo finally has a studio 🙌
Congrats
Yeah, I get it. It wasn't a mind-blowing demo, but I'm already in the mentality that this game is going to be like a Kirby game, which means super easy but also fun.
I did notice everything Arlo talked about in the video, but I've been fooled by bad demos before, so I still have a lot of optimism for this game
Agreed
This seems like it’s aiming for an audience a bit younger and less experienced than what Kirby does. Kirby’s copy abilities can have stuff to provide (optional) depth to still be engaging for older players. Stuff like the post game True Arena content where the difficulty ramps up, or inputs like a fighting game style quarter circle for Kirby’s fighter ability to use the hadoken like move faster and stronger, or other more complicated input methods for moves certain copy abilities have (though those kind of moves weren’t really brought into Forgotten Land so they may stick as a 2D Kirby only thing).
Kind of a bummer. Was really excited for a new peach game
From what I hear, this game was created by the same studio that created Yoshi's Crafted World: another game that people say is too easy, doesn't feel very snappy to play, uses craft elements, and relies heavily on its charm. I watched my partner play the demo and the little guys (called "Theets" by the way) are adorable, the visuals are very pretty, and certain elements are indeed very charming (like purifying the birds stealing the sweets so they aren't evil anymore lol). So it's INCREDIBLY charming, but even just as an onlooker I felt that the game just didn't really have a "flow" if you know what I mean?
And yeah, the more you talked about this being more like a game for children than a game for everyone, the more I could see what you mean. It's a shame that just because Peach is the star, she has to go on a "fake" adventure through plays in an overly easy game instead of an "actual" adventure intended for everyone. But it is what it is, I suppose.
I agree with one of the last points you make. I really don't like how because it's Peach that means a game starring her has to automatically be made so easy and boring that only little kids will like it. Mario games like Wonder give you options with characters that can't die so even younger children can play it no problem. There is no reason to not do the same for a Peach game other than the assumption that no adult (or to be more precise - no adult men) would ever want to play a game with a pink girlie-girl protagonist so why bother, right?
I'm happy for all the young kids who will enjoy this game but I can't help but be disappointed that they didn't create something more with this.
I was so happy to see a takarazuka revue themed game and for peach to finally get her time to shine but yeah this is about what I expected the more we saw of the game... We need more fun takarazuka stuff, or a serious revue starlight action game.
literallyyy i share so many of the same criticisms arlo had with the demo but i’m tempted to buy the full game if only to see if there are any other takarazuka references
As a grown man myself, I thoroughly enjoyed decorating cakes as Peach in this demo
I actually really loved the demo! As a Kirby fan it kind of scratches the same itchy, I recognize it has pretty simple gameplay, but that doesn't bother me that much given how charming the whole presentation is, there were only 2 levels, but I saw potential in both tranformations, and....
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I actually felt a bit of challenge for the demo gameplay, despite being an adult. I got a game over and wasn't expecting it to happen, since Arlo said it was easy. But he also has beaten Elden Ring more than once, so our ability thresholds are quite different. Either way, I get what Arlo is saying, and I agree with him if you also have his ability to want to play through hard games. I struggle a lot in video games, so Princess Peach Showtime was nice for me. A little hard, a lot of fun.
Im incredibly easy to please. I had a good time with it and i love the charm. Probably not worth $60 but it doesnt really bother me that much personally because im having a good time with it (though I probably wont be buying at launch, i dont really have the money to be spending willy nilly haha)
I think it’s going to start off easy as these are just introductory levels for the transformations therefore they need to make them simple. I think they’ll have more challenging levels for players who are looking for a challenge. Nintendo has always made games that appeal for all age groups and audiences so I’m not worried that this game is going to be “too easy” and even if it is, I still had a lot of fun in the demo and replayed in many times! FYI I’m 18 turning 19 soon and even though I’m an experienced gamer, I still had a blast in the demo! Pls don’t feel discouraged in buying the game if people say it’s for “young audiences”. I think this game is for all audiences and if you love something cozy and filled with glamor and personality, you’ll love this!
When this game was revealed, some people brought up Super Princess Peach and how they thought the emotion mechanic in that game was sexist, and how this was a better direction for Peach. Now I never played Super Princess Peach, but I fail to see how Peach getting her own full scale Mario-like adventure is more sexist than a laughably easy Barbie game for little kids. At least she's playable in Mario Wonder.
Learning that this game is developed by Good Feel (if rumors are to be believed) really puts things in perspective. Good Feel started by making a bunch of educational games for children 5 and under for DS in the 2000s. Yoshis Crafted World and their Kirbys Epic Yarn have continued this focus- very simple, approachable games for young gamers.
So it’s fair to be a bit disappointed by some of the game design decisions, but it’s totally intentional and makes sense if the target demographic is 5 year olds. This isn’t a game for everyone, it’s for (very) young gamers.
Could you imagine if Arlo made a full review of this game and not one of Splatoon 2 or Pikmin 4 or Tears of the Kingdom.
The demo was quite good I find. As you say the gameplay is very simple but the presentation has tons of charm. It's probably a very relaxing game overall and that is fine.
It’s giving Yoshi game energy, visually pleasing and mechanically accessible but just too easy for even moderately skilled gamers. Hopefully Peach will continue to get new games and hopefully they’ll grow with their new fans
Yoshi games have historically had difficult optional challenges. This gives off Kirby vibes in terms of easy.
I was kind of thinking the same thing since it’s developed by the same developers, Good Feel. However, Yoshi’s Crafted World feels a little more enjoyable since it focuses more on the tried-and-true Yoshi moveset/platforming without the hand holding that the Peach game appears to have.
Did Yoshi games get easier over time? Because the original Yoshi’s Island is BRUTAL.
@@fatcerberus they did in the main game. The extra stages of Woolly World are ridiculous. I didn't play Crafted so I can't speak to that.
@@AirahsELL Even Kirby has that smooth ramp-up in difficulty should you choose to 100% a file, though, such that you _really_ have to work for the last 10% (this is something Pizza Tower did well too, incidentally). It makes it so the easy main game becomes a gateway drug for the more difficult stuff that would be a lot less approachable by itself.
I had a lotta fun with the demo. Still the 'feel' could definitely better. I also felt the font/lack of speech bubbles felt low effort. And the frames... yeah.. I just hope that's different in the full game.
I think the biggest warning sign in the demo that this game isn't going to get any less simple is that Swordfighter Peach doesn't even have a spin attack. Such a limited moveset does not bode well for people hoping that later Swordfighter levels are going to be more demanding.
@@papertoad456 Doesn't really make sense to me that they'd have a locked moveset like that. And enemy aggression isn't really a problem when all you have to do is tap the A button in the window of like a full second to perfect dodge.
@@Chiller326How is that any different from Mario levels holding off power ups and level concepts until later worlds? Like, you don't get the turbo and rocket nozzles in Sunshine until a lil ways in.
While I dont know if I'm convinced it will go up in complexity, it's very possible the demo is the "tutorial" level per costume and you have return to the stages with harder levels.
@@amandaslough125 lol I think if the sword transformation had a spin attack it would have been in the tutorial level because it's an incredibly basic concept.
If you quickly move the control stick in the opposite direction that you're running and attack, she'll spin on her head.
@@Bellyofthebeast6 just tried it and you can do it while standing still and slashing. It's a way to slash in the opposite direction and turn to face it at the same time. It's *something*, I'll grant you, but it feels less like a technique that's going to be tested by the game and more like a way to make the game even easier by allowing the player to suddenly attack the enemies behind them. I'd like to be proven wrong about all this.
I understand that it might be too easy. But the game looks nice and fun. I hope it get's more challenging but I like the different styles that Peach is going through.
I also felt the same way when it comes to depth of gameplay and the degree of polish (or not enough thereof) for an $80 CAD retail game.
Focusing more on the presentation side of things and catering towards the younger audience doesn't mean it has to be at the expense of stripping depth from the gameplay. From what I've seen in the demo, the experience remains identical regardless of the playthrough, since there isn't much complexity behind the actions Peach can do and that there isn't any replay incentive outside the collectibles.
The dodge mechanic of Swordfigther Peach feels inconsistent and isn't clearly explained well. Sometimes it works, but inexplicably not the other times. And at no point in the game explicitly shows the dodge timing and what it actually does, leading myself to "randomly" win mob and boss fights. Turns out that I was supposed to hit the jump button when a shockwave or enemy gets very close to Peach, but again the timing is unclear.
I'm so looking forward to the game just because it's Peach. We need another Yoshi game now!
I enjoyed the demo, but I did notice several of the issues that you pointed out, and it does have me a little worried for the game’s overall quality. I do feel that the difficulty could have been upped just a little bit without compromising the style of the game. I’ll wait until the full game is released before I fully pass judgement, though.
I loved the demo's music and sound design.
Frankly, even if it's not for everyone, I'm just glad Peach is getting more and more out of the damsel-in-distress role she's been plaqued with for decades and fleshing out her personality a little.
And considering that I've heard rumors that this is made by the same team that made Wario Land: Shake It, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Yoshi's Woolly World, and Yoshi's Crafted World, I'm not expecting much of a challenge in this game. But like the other games, it's cute and charming and that's probably enough for me to at least give the game a shot.
Just played it and love it, im a 30 year old male just for context, but I also work in the game dev world as an animator and loved checking every animation of the game, looking forward to check the rest of the costumes animations
i grew up in washington i loved it there the trees and calm beaches cant be beaten
Growing up by the beachside is always awesome, did you find any cool crabs?
I've been waiting for this game since its announcement and I am very very looking forward to playing it
Nintendo is completely capable of making games that appeal to kids, but still have depth that adults enjoy. Mario games have always been that, from their original platformers to their spin offs like early Paper Mario games. So to see a game like this is kinda... disappointing.
maybe i am just easy to impress but i had a blast playing this
Reminds me of Rhapsody; A musical adventure. It was targeted at girls, so I guess they made it super easy? I still love the story. I just wish they HADN'T made it absurdly easy.
I got lost extremely bad like 2 hours into that game and could never find my way out so I just gave up on it.
Shame cause it seemed kinda nice. I liked Cornet and the other party members
Yeah. I realize that I as a 20 year old man should not be the one making these takes, but it feels like every time a game is made that is specifically trying to aim itself at girls, it's always got to be absurdly easy, the kind of game that doesn't present many challenges at all (like Animal Crossing), or try to hide the fact that it's girly so it can market itself to all genders. I know the idea of things being "for girls" is something that has probably done more harm than good, but it really feels like AAA game devs cannot concieve the fact that a game can specifically for girls and not need to coddle them at all times. Animal Crossing getting progressively more and more scared to make their villagers rude to the player I think is another good example of this.
Actually, Rhapsody got 2 sequels that used to be Japan only and I can tell you the 3rd game is definitely not easy at all. A massive grind fest. I have seen the game over screen in it far too many times...
@@shadowlink180 Did the 2 sequels ever get even unofficial fan translations?...
@@ajmoment8091I wonder why AC doesn’t make rude villagers no more
Play more of the game because it's way better than what the demo led you to believe.
I enjoyed the demo and I know I suck pretty bad at games, but I didn’t think I sucked that bad. :P I couldn’t even find all the stars in the bakery level. Guess it’s a good game for an adult who enjoys games but sucks at games! I had zero intention to buy the game, but after the demo, I think will really like it!
As a fellow adult, I would agree with all this. I missed some stars in these first 2 levels and really wasn't looking forward to replaying them. And it seems really bad if you dread replaying levels. I absolutely loved Yoshi's Crafted World and was hoping this would be similar. Hopefully it gets better. The trailer did make some of the levels look neat.
Can’t wait to 100% this game made for babies
Same
Hell yeah
Babies who can read lol. Not sure why they don’t use more voice acting.
I read that in YMS’s voice
@IliciaRodriguez0408 because voice acting in Nintendo games sucks, did everyone just forget about how notoriously terrible the voice acting was in Super Mario Sunshine? Also hot take but: text dialogue > voice acting, for any game.
About 5-10 minutes into the demo, I was Swordfighter Peach and had to defeat three enemies to progress. I defeated the first two, and then for some reason the third's sword disappeared and I couldn't attack it anymore. Had to deliberately die and try again. It's not usually a good sign when the DEMO has a glitch that impedes progress!
Eh, I’m looking forward to a simple game full of charm to play when I come from a 10 hour shift with disabled clients and then have to parent a preschooler after. Played the demo and it’s definitely not too easy when you have a disability in your hand, I actually really appreciate that it’s only two buttons. I was getting tired of games repeating mechanics left and right and am glad to see some creativity in gaming again. Everything feels stale and same-y. Peach feels like, well. Peach. I loved every second, every twirl, every pose and smile. This is the game young me would’ve needed and I suspect it will be a core memory for a lot of kids. It is not MADE for adults. Everyone needs to keep that in mind.
My wife played the demo (she plays cozy games like Animal Crossing and Stardew Valley) and she loved it. I watched as she played and it reminded me a lot of Kirbys Epic Yarn, so I’m not surprised to hear they’re by the same team. I would bet that in the full game even though completing the game will be very easy (like kirbys epic yarn) getting every bonus/time trial goal will be more challenging for those who want it. I think it’s a great approach for casual gamers and young kids, which is clearly the audience. But since we only saw the first two levels I’d wait and see if there’s any optional, more challenging modes (even like a new game plus or something) so there may even be some enjoyment for more seasoned players too
Something I noticed that I haven't seen anyone talk about is that the dress ribbons you gain seem to have an effect on Peach's base stats. It might just be my imagination, but after I got the patissier dress ribbon, it seemed like Peach's base movement speed went from "why is she moving so slow??" to a much more reasonable speed that actually felt good to play.
Not sure what the swordfighter dress ribbon does, but my guess would be increasing jump height. The effect seems to stack as well, so having the patissier dress ribbon while being patissier Peach makes her move even faster, and having the swordfighter dress ribbon while being swordfighter Peach seems to make her jump reach further.
If I'm correct about this and not just imagining it, then Princess Peach Showtime is going to be a very "earn your fun"-type game, which bodes well. Maybe there will even be special moves (like the backflip so sorely missing from Swordfighter Peach's movement) that can be unlocked with further dress ribbons!
Nintendo did this game dirty by having the demo be the first two levels rather than cherrypicking the best bits to whet people's appetite.
Still not worth the $60 pricetag imo, though. I am of the firm belief that games should be priced according to how much bang you get for your buck, rather than who's publishing it. If it's on the shorter, simpler side, it should be priced accordingly.
I was wondering why I couldn't make enough cookies in time for Cake - 1.
Who'd think the bowl could be made THAT full! XD
The moment I saw that this game was going to have Peach in a bunch of different style of gameplays, I knew it'd be a "jack of all trades master of none" situation. They really should've just had *one* thing, *one* idea, and master that for Peach. Who knows, if done right it could even have Peach get her own series of mainline games. Like Yoshi, Luigi, DK, Wario, and even Toad have their own consistent style of games.
As a 20 year old guy who considers myself a semi-seasoned gamer, I enjoyed the demo a lot. It felt like a cozy game that wasnt a life or farming sim, I am very much looking forward to getting this game and 100%ing it in probably just a day or two
I'm excited for it, especially since I never got Peach's first game, and I want an unapologetically feminine game. The simplicity showing through is annoying, but this is like the Mario version of the transformation route I'd love to see in a Shantae game. And Wonder already took Shantae's elephant transformation.
I do hope the game gets some challenge and complexity by the end. It'd be really annoying if Peach finally gets a new game and they decide to make it the next entry of the "girl ghetto" list of mediocrity. Like, I do think there's a place for really easy cozy entry level games. But girls and kids in general deserve mental stimulation and quality games. And there's quite a few good videos discussing the subject.
From my experience I think this actually meets its target demographic really well. I have been playing it with my mom who is really inexperienced with video games. She has struggled significantly getting into most games. But with this game, not only is she able to get into it, but I can see her skill with video games actively improving. This is actually a game I will probably recommend to people new to video games because it acts as a really good way to get some of the skills people with years of gaming experience already have. Especially because the game rewards you so frequently I have found that it really inviting to new comers
This game definitely feels like its going to be very mixed among the community. Some will say " its aimed only at girls as a guy i can't like it". Others will like it for what it is. honestly I think it looks great bit im worried about how much content the game will have.
During the sword Peach stage I was hyped when I figured out that you could start your combos with a forward air attack as an extension for her ground combo when she lands. But then I stopped when I saw that everything dies in three hits and even the sub bosses came down to just quicktime. The only reward for exploration or going off rails are the collectable sparkles, but there really wasn't much else to explore or backtrack for. Even finding some more hidden health recovery drops would have been nice. Iirc you get a couple for helping the little guys but not much else. I do want to play more, but it might be one of those games I have to watch someone else play first. Lastly, all of Patisserie Peach's poses and animations made my heart flutter. Very cute.
Princess Peach Showtime is a Barbie game that's actually good.
It a cutey honey game base off the magical girl gene popular on Japan.
I didn't mind the simplicity of the demo, sometimes I just need that in a game. (And, maybe rightly or wrongly, I figure it'll get at least a little more difficult later on) My main issue is the lack of customizability of the controls. What is Nintendo's big fascination with only allowing the A/B buttons to be used? Why can't I choose to use the Y/B buttons?
Super disapointed to hear this, this was easily the nintendo game I've looked forward to most in years. That's in no small part since I have a 6 year old daughter who is obsessed with the Mario IP and mario swtich games right now (though her favorite character is Rosalina) but also, as a grown man all the trailers looked incredible to me, the idea of all those different powers and every level being completely different gameplay instead of just more platforming with slight twists was super exciting.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll be checking out the demo anyway to judge for ourselves, but this really is a huge let down to hear. Yes my daughter is 6, but when she was only 5 she 100% 3d World, and she refuses to use casual mode on Mario vs DK, and doesn't consider a stage beat unless she perfects it. Needless to say, she doesn't need her hand held and likes a nice challenge.
Ironically, while she seemed to enjoy the demo overal, the issue actually ended up being the difficulty was too high! She was having a blast until the cookie making part, I'm not sure if its an age related thing or what, cause I didn't find the tapping to mix particularly difficult myself, but my daughter just could not get Peach to mix the batter through tapping the button as fast as her little thumbs can do it. She tried both thumbs and even other fingers, but after 30 minutes of trying, I ended up having to do that part for her.
It's not good if both adults like Arlo are finding it too easy and 6 year olds whose 100% 3d world are finding it too hard, you've missed both of your target audiences.
I didn't actually play it myself (besides doing the mixing for her, which was a HUGE blow to her pride since she wants to do everything herself) but I will say it was fun to watch my daughter play at the least, its visually a joy to behold.
Congrats on the move, Arlo!
I visited the Seattle area for a month last year and it is indeed beautiful up there 😊