I am new to trials and am starting off on a Beta 200 standard. I am excited to follow your progress with the 'back to basics' and see how you like the 200.
I've been following and enjoying your stuff since I started trials 3 years ago with the Neil Price membership thing. So we're almost on the same time line but I'm not as advanced with the fancy stuff. But - my bike timeline - Went from Beta 200 to Gas Gas 250 to TRS250RR to Beta Factory 250 - and I'm now back on a 2024 Beta 200! Standard, not even Factory. And I love it! Easy to get carried away with the bigger bikes and practicing rock steps but that wont help you in a trial at Clubman level as you rightly say. Over here in the UK they say they are 'the perfect Clubman bike' - Fantastic little bikes with plenty of everything, certainly more capable than I am, yet forgiving! I'll be watching with interest 👌
It has been my experience that you can't go wrong with a Beta when it comes to "rideability". They really have a nack with making smooth power and ease of!use. Enjoy the new bike!
On the advice of a friend (with a lot of years of trials experience) I bought a used 2013 Beta EVO 200 a few years back. It was a fully-farkeled dealer's demo bike. For me, with no off-road or motocross experience it is the perfect bike.
The 200 is the way to go. You’ll think less about the bike and more about what you’re doing or at least that’s been my experience. Plus it’s just smooth and easier to ride than what I started on.
Nice to see you riding Beta Evo 200 Factory. Such a great platform to learn MotoTrials. Interested to hear what you do to set up for your preferences. Personally suggest 10/42 or 10/43 final gearing, since 11/42 stock gearing seemed a bit tall for me. Hope to see good results from my friends competing at NATC Nationals this weekend in FL! 🙏😊👍
@@TrialsProgression So far the only mechanical mod I've made is to install Dan William's fancy machined clutch lightening washers. Gearing seems OK, but maybe +2 on the back would be even better.
200's are great - I’m currently having a ball riding a Vertigo 200. I moved down from an Ossa 280 to a Beta 125 but found I needed too many balls in the air to be comfortable on it. The V200 is (almost) perfect for me, shame they dropped it for the 225 which I found horrid when I rode one
Off-camber turns and steep descents have really hurt my points this season - I've made many stupid small turning mistakes that cost me when I made it over the larger obstacles pretty consistently. I practice turning drills in my flat yard and over a log, but when I'm at the trials comp, things are different. I'm likely confronted with an off-camber tight turn to a steep loose, uphill, to a 2' log, and that equals a 5 😞.
If you ever get a chance to throw a leg over the Beta 300 Super Smooth, it would be great to hear your opinion. I love mine and, to me, it feels even smoother than the 200.
When there is a lack of skill in using the controls (clutch, brake, etc.), a smaller engine makes riding easier. A larger engine responds more quickly, making the riding experience 'jerky' Also, when riding is easier, it doesn’t force you to learn to use the controls well
Great move to a Beta (Bee-ta 🤩) but Factory model 200 is like a regular 250…. Also, if you rode the route above Clubman, you’d be using all the cool skills, which you obviously have. Why go back, when you could have gone up? Everyone wants progression. (🤓) right?
I'm not going back from white to green line. It was my 1st national. I do plan to move up to white next year after putting more time into the fundamentals. But good point and thanks for watching
I traded a beta 300 for a 200 this summer. It was the best thing I did! Enjoy your new bike
Right on! I should have found this comment 2 years ago 😉
I am new to trials and am starting off on a Beta 200 standard. I am excited to follow your progress with the 'back to basics' and see how you like the 200.
Excellent! I've got a lot of resources that can be helpful on the website. Check out the links in the description. I'll have more on YT coming soon
I've been following and enjoying your stuff since I started trials 3 years ago with the Neil Price membership thing. So we're almost on the same time line but I'm not as advanced with the fancy stuff. But - my bike timeline - Went from Beta 200 to Gas Gas 250 to TRS250RR to Beta Factory 250 - and I'm now back on a 2024 Beta 200! Standard, not even Factory. And I love it! Easy to get carried away with the bigger bikes and practicing rock steps but that wont help you in a trial at Clubman level as you rightly say. Over here in the UK they say they are 'the perfect Clubman bike' - Fantastic little bikes with plenty of everything, certainly more capable than I am, yet forgiving! I'll be watching with interest 👌
You are so right!👍 I could have saved some money and gone straight to the 200 but to each their own and you live n learn 🤷♂️ thanks for your support
@@TrialsProgression too many shiny things….! 🫣
I've got a TRS250. I had a go on my brother's Beta 200 and felt more comfortable on it after two minutes of riding.
The One R in the Uk has been modified to soften it; clutch plate, low compression head, inlet spacer…. Makes it way easier to ride.
Yes, the one R is much smoother in my experience as well
@@TrialsProgression keen to see what the main differences are between these two bikes. If you can list them, that would be great! 👍
Talking to Ray can be dangerous, same thing has happened to me. Enjoy your Beta 👍
🤣🤣🤣🤣 took a couple years, but yep. I'm in. Which CC did you get?
😂, I got a Standard 200 and after about 6 months ended up on a Standard 250. That’s the bike … for now 😊
It has been my experience that you can't go wrong with a Beta when it comes to "rideability". They really have a nack with making smooth power and ease of!use. Enjoy the new bike!
On the advice of a friend (with a lot of years of trials experience) I bought a used 2013 Beta EVO 200 a few years back. It was a fully-farkeled dealer's demo bike. For me, with no off-road or motocross experience it is the perfect bike.
Bingo! 👌
New Beta 200 owner here. It shares what I liked about my previous bike, a ty175. It's smooth, forgiving and easy to ride.
Great to hear. Another 200 dude. 😎
Love it. I ride a 250 gasgas but find I prefer my wife’s sherco 125. Low capacity bikes are a ton of fun.
This is my 1st that's less than 250. Enjoying it so far 😉
4:45 its Christmas time! 😅 Enjoy your new toy! ( beta evo 290 here ) greetings from 🇫🇷
Awesome! Thanks for watching
The 200 is the way to go. You’ll think less about the bike and more about what you’re doing or at least that’s been my experience. Plus it’s just smooth and easier to ride than what I started on.
👌 even your YT handle is all about the Beta200👍
Nice to see you riding Beta Evo 200 Factory. Such a great platform to learn MotoTrials. Interested to hear what you do to set up for your preferences. Personally suggest 10/42 or 10/43 final gearing, since 11/42 stock gearing seemed a bit tall for me. Hope to see good results from my friends competing at NATC Nationals this weekend in FL! 🙏😊👍
Yep I went to 11:44 on the gearing and I'll get into some more details in the next video. 👍
@@TrialsProgression So far the only mechanical mod I've made is to install Dan William's fancy machined clutch lightening washers. Gearing seems OK, but maybe +2 on the back would be even better.
200's are great - I’m currently having a ball riding a Vertigo 200. I moved down from an Ossa 280 to a Beta 125 but found I needed too many balls in the air to be comfortable on it. The V200 is (almost) perfect for me, shame they dropped it for the 225 which I found horrid when I rode one
The 125s are a different beast for sure - happy you found the right one in the Vertigo 200. The V 200 I rode was brilliant 👌as well
Great video! Curious what you meant by the Vertigo being "interesting". ..
Great machine and rides 👌. Trouble shooting fuel injection can be tricky
Hi Tom, I'll wait for new tutorial in the app with your new beta. But I'd like to see also some tutorial about splat :D
Yes, splat is on the list of content to delve into👍
Off-camber turns and steep descents have really hurt my points this season - I've made many stupid small turning mistakes that cost me when I made it over the larger obstacles pretty consistently. I practice turning drills in my flat yard and over a log, but when I'm at the trials comp, things are different. I'm likely confronted with an off-camber tight turn to a steep loose, uphill, to a 2' log, and that equals a 5 😞.
So, so true! Hard to practice the cambers if you don't have them nearby. That combo of turn / traction and obstacle/ turn is also my nemesis.
If you ever get a chance to throw a leg over the Beta 300 Super Smooth, it would be great to hear your opinion. I love mine and, to me, it feels even smoother than the 200.
I will make sure to try it out when I get the chance 👍 I've heard the SS are awesome
When there is a lack of skill in using the controls (clutch, brake, etc.), a smaller engine makes riding easier. A larger engine responds more quickly, making the riding experience 'jerky'
Also, when riding is easier, it doesn’t force you to learn to use the controls well
Great points 👌
Great move to a Beta (Bee-ta 🤩) but Factory model 200 is like a regular 250…. Also, if you rode the route above Clubman, you’d be using all the cool skills, which you obviously have. Why go back, when you could have gone up? Everyone wants progression. (🤓) right?
I'm not going back from white to green line. It was my 1st national. I do plan to move up to white next year after putting more time into the fundamentals. But good point and thanks for watching
@@TrialsProgression it’s an awesome channel, sir! And the only one that really sees it from the beginner view point. Priceless 🏆