Yes saw your repair and the travel trolls have now got the same fault should be a free repair for all instead of trying to find people to do a cheaper repair
Nice video, again. The airbag issue is a pain. We had the same problem earlier in the year. I knew of the refurb route, but went to our dealer (whom we bought our Swift Escape off new, 5 years ago), who stated he would get a price, for a new unit, then provide us with a supplied & fitted cost. When he contacted us, he stated the new ECU was discounted for some reason, happy days - so we booked the van in. All was done nice & quickly, at a very reasonable cost. When we picked the van up, the service manager said they'd had a few of these fail in recent times. The common denominator appeared to be that most of the vans in question with this failure, had either been in storage, or not used in a while & not on charge regularly. In our case, when I thought about it, there was an occasion when the Swift Command system warned me the batteries were low - I thought I had plugged in the charger system a few days before, but I had not ! Maybe the cause ?
Enjoyed the video. My Uncle Stan was serving on the Royal Oak and one of the 834 sailors that was killed at Scapa Flow He was celbrating his 21st birthday. So sad such tragic loss of life.
Hi Bob and Jenny we have exactly the same problem with our fiat ducato we seem to have got away with it in mot with our local garage as we explained our air bag isn't going to deplete. Love watching your flogs x
Sorry about the trouble with airbag/lights on dashboard. I had something a bit similar on a Peugeot Boxer 2014, a few years ago. A light came on for a supposed handbrake fault and it was traced to a faulty engine management chip. When replacing and then reprogramming the item, they found that it was a Fiat management chip. I know that they are made in the same factory but even the technicians were very surprised. Your video stirs up my memories of Orkney, even more so since my lad works on Scottish Ferries now. Thank you, lovely stuff.
Hi Bob This might fix your airbag warning. With the engine off, place your right foot on throttle and press all the way to the floor, then place your left foot on the brake pedal and press firmly as far as it will go. Now turn ignition on so the lights on the dash come on. DONT START THE ENGINE wait 15 seconds whilst both feet are pressed. Turn ignition off and lift both feet completely away from the pedals. Now you can start the engine normally.
Hi Bob & Jenny, we really felt for you when the air bag warning pipped again, as you know we had the same recurring problem, I hope you can get it sorted swiftly so you can enjoy your travels again. Well done Jenny on the crossing, looks a lovely place, I wish I could find the sea legs to cross over the sea. You kept your cool well with the reversing too, hats off to you. Enjoy every moment of scotland. Em & Gary 💜
Dan abd mazzy were singing your praises in a recent video regarding the airbag warning light...can't believe it's happened to you again. You were very skilled reversing the motorhome onto the ferry...Well done! And little poppy chasing the seaweed on the beach was funny....she really is adorable ❤
Bit of a pain that the warning light is on. I had numerous problems with Bertie when he was new but eventually got resolved. Orkneys look beautiful and very quiet. Poppy had fun on the beach 😃 Trev n Sue
Hello Bob and Jenny many thanks for sharing and I hope you enjoy your time in Orkney. We travelled up there in June and luckily had absolutely brilliant weather, sunburnt in Orkney now that is a first for me 😂. The Scrabster ferry is by far the better route when travelling in your motorhome reversing on is not the best. I agree with an earlier comment that this air bag fault is very well known and Fiat should do a recall on this matter as it is a real safety concern. I guess the meanng of FIAT, "Fix It Again Tony" is correct, but alas again and again. Complain to Trading Standards that this part is not of merchantisable quality. Enjoy your travels and stay safe. ❤👍
Hi Bob, Jenny and Poppy, Oh No! what a nuisance, gosh you think it would be a free repair as its a fault x. Lovely sight seeing the ferry coming in. Wow reversing on, brilliant Bob. Lovely scenery out to sea. Glad you got rid of the alarm fingers crossed. Nice history. Poppy loved the beach, so cute x Julie and Tony x
Bob - might be idea to check the body control module for a good earth , however you may need a obd scanner to check functionality of all related air bag sensors before you purchase a new airbag ecu .
I once read where someone had added an additional earth strap.. I noticed on ours that the location pins were painted fiat white with the cab.?. 2018 model
I had this on my Motorhome Fiat I had to have new ECU done. They tried to charge me 2019 Motorhome I said they knew this was fault and that their is enough evidence I would take up with trading standards they didn’t charge me in the end.
Sorry to hear you are still having problems with the air bag warning - the beeping must have driven you mad. Could you have stayed in the van if you wanted to? I found (as I’m sure you will have) that on some of the CalMac ones you can stay in your vehicle if you wish (Skye crossing and Into Loch Ranza ferry on Arran let us stay in. Looks a lovely island. Enjoy your trip - all the best, David & Rachel 👍
I’m on the third repair for the air bag module, crash data was great turn around, said low battery volt , next one was high battery volt. I wish there was a permanent fix !!!!
@@BobEarnshawMoHo if this helps , the high voltage one. Van plugged in mains so your battery is on charge so volts a little higher, so I. Never start Van plugged in. Now. The Low volts , changed the battery, also now my solar chargers leisure battery when that’s full , it trickles charge Engine battery so volts should never be low.
Thanks, yes some sensible precautions there. What I struggle to understand is how the vehicle battery could have gone low, it had been plugged in all night.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo I’m with you Bob. I more think there is a problem with the Fiat electric system, dropping volts when you turn the key to start etc. shame we don’t know a Fiat tech that would spill the beans on what is wrong with them. Ps. One of the times my unit went I was happy driving along so definitely not low battery or high.
Him Guy’s had exactly same problem, when in Denmark, 2 years ago, as with your’s both airbag and seat belt warning light came on. After spending nearly £900.00. Thought problem solved. Then came back on about week later. Brought new airbag part that fits near engine battery, seems common problem with Fiat’s since fitted new one, no problem.😊😊
Hi Bob, Jenny. Another great vid as always. The airbag light again though😢.. We are on our second ecu in 5 months, 1st one sent away and repaired, second one was a new one. This is far too common. Fiat should be more involved and replace foc with an upgraded version. They are clearly too sensitive in some way. I was also told low battery voltage caused the issue, but the 2 onboard battery systems suggested 12. 5v? Fitted a new battery anyhow, but not convinced it needed one.
Great video. Did you not know it wasn't a RORO before you booked? Scrabster is the alternative. Do you not travel with gas turned on? Can you not turn off the alert sounds, there is usually a volume setting in the menu. Is it the passenger airbag or the drivers? The Pentland can be tricky if the ramp is steep due to the tide, you were lucky you did not ground out the Thule. Happy travels
I did manage to turn the beeping off with the mode button eventually. It doesn't say which air bag is faulty, just air bag fault. I took the bike rack off, thought I said that. I did know it was a RORO ferry, I thought it was a case of doing a U turn, that's why i was surprised. Yes I turned the gas off. We went via Scrabster last time, but we wanted the shorter crossing.
The dreaded airbag fault! Obviously a design screwup by the amount of boxers/ducatos which have this issue. Wonder if it's sorted in the new Ducato model ?
Nightmare about the airbag noises. I'm not keen on seacat ferries but definitely appreciate getting there quicker as opposed to way too many hours. Enjoyed this
I’m fairly sure you can send off a module of the airbag control box and have it reset for about £85. Might be worth investigating that option before spending £800 ? on a whole new one?
Gosh, driving down those narrow lanes, missing your turning , the air bag fault and then having to reverse onto the ferry. How do you keep cool and your hair !!
All these sensors are just money makers 😒These manufacturers should be held to account for the absolute garbage they are selling, wouldn't have been put up with 30 years ago
Travel trolls have the same problem and have sent their control box off to be reset. Suggest you contact them and get the details before you are charged £800 for a new one. Good luck.
Switch of Ignition and try disconnecting Battery for 10 mins to see if that sorts the Airbag out? I may of course be a completely different problem with it??
All these common known faults should be fixed for free totally unfair our Ford Kuga power shift gearbox died quoted £3500 for refurb box which is a known fault love watching your videos it might be cheaper for you to move to Scotland with the amount of trips you take up there
Assuming you have a Fiat, Multiecuscan (Mes) will allow you to read the airbag fault code. It won't allow you to repair the airbag module but if you buy a new module from Fiat (the only safe option) MES will do the proxy alignment. This is what I did. Less the £300 for airbag module, MES is £50 (you need a Windoze PC). MES is useful, there is a free demo version. I've also used it to change my tank from 60 to 90 litres. P.S. MES will probably work on Pugs and Citroens.
Apparently you turn the ignition on, wait for the lights to go out and if they don't, you don't start it as there is a fault. Sounds like an excuse to me.
This is the second time this Air Bag Warning has happened to us please see this video ruclips.net/video/QjVBe-jKA8Y/видео.html
Yes saw your repair and the travel trolls have now got the same fault should be a free repair for all instead of trying to find people to do a cheaper repair
I agree Andrew. The company should fix the fault or replace completely.
No charge Bob and Jenny!
My module has just gone for the 2nd time in 3 months, fault reader said the battery had been disconnected 🤷♂️
I assume it hadn't?
Loved to see Poppy enjoying so much the beach ❤️👍
That looked scary reversing on the ferry. Nice to see Poppy on the beach.
I know the weather was a bit grey but what a glorious place! So looking forward to your Orkney adventure!
The weather did improve.
Nice video, again. The airbag issue is a pain. We had the same problem earlier in the year. I knew of the refurb route, but went to our dealer (whom we bought our Swift Escape off new, 5 years ago), who stated he would get a price, for a new unit, then provide us with a supplied & fitted cost. When he contacted us, he stated the new ECU was discounted for some reason, happy days - so we booked the van in. All was done nice & quickly, at a very reasonable cost. When we picked the van up, the service manager said they'd had a few of these fail in recent times. The common denominator appeared to be that most of the vans in question with this failure, had either been in storage, or not used in a while & not on charge regularly. In our case, when I thought about it, there was an occasion when the Swift Command system warned me the batteries were low - I thought I had plugged in the charger system a few days before, but I had not ! Maybe the cause ?
Yes there is some problem caused by the voltage levels, either too low or high.
Glad you ok on the ferry Jenny . Great reversing Bob x
Thanks.
St. Margaret's Hope is a lovely place. Wish you'd have stopped and looked around.
Thanks, it looked a bit tight for parking there.
Enjoyed the video. My Uncle Stan was serving on the Royal Oak and one of the 834 sailors that was killed at Scapa Flow He was celbrating his 21st birthday. So sad such tragic loss of life.
So sorry to hear hear that, a real tragedy all those lives lost.
Hi Bob and Jenny we have exactly the same problem with our fiat ducato we seem to have got away with it in mot with our local garage as we explained our air bag isn't going to deplete. Love watching your flogs x
That was generous of your MOT tester.
Sorry about the trouble with airbag/lights on dashboard. I had something a bit similar on a Peugeot Boxer 2014, a few years ago. A light came on for a supposed handbrake fault and it was traced to a faulty engine management chip. When replacing and then reprogramming the item, they found that it was a Fiat management chip. I know that they are made in the same factory but even the technicians were very surprised. Your video stirs up my memories of Orkney, even more so since my lad works on Scottish Ferries now. Thank you, lovely stuff.
Hi Bob
This might fix your airbag warning.
With the engine off, place your right foot on throttle and press all the way to the floor, then place your left foot on the brake pedal and press firmly as far as it will go. Now turn ignition on so the lights on the dash come on. DONT START THE ENGINE wait 15 seconds whilst both feet are pressed. Turn ignition off and lift both feet completely away from the pedals. Now you can start the engine normally.
OK, I'll try that.
Could you update us as to if this worked for you please Bob. Ps, how did you switch the beep off... 👍
We did try this but unfortunately it didn’t work. To stop the beeping I press the Mode button after the air bag warning’s first beep.
loving your vlogs i feel i on your travels with you
I'm so glad!
Hi Bob & Jenny, we really felt for you when the air bag warning pipped again, as you know we had the same recurring problem, I hope you can get it sorted swiftly so you can enjoy your travels again. Well done Jenny on the crossing, looks a lovely place, I wish I could find the sea legs to cross over the sea. You kept your cool well with the reversing too, hats off to you. Enjoy every moment of scotland. Em & Gary 💜
Thank you
Dan abd mazzy were singing your praises in a recent video regarding the airbag warning light...can't believe it's happened to you again. You were very skilled reversing the motorhome onto the ferry...Well done! And little poppy chasing the seaweed on the beach was funny....she really is adorable ❤
Yes, Murphy's or something in action, I'd only just commented on the Travel Trolls video and the warning came up the following morning.
Bit of a pain that the warning light is on. I had numerous problems with Bertie when he was new but eventually got resolved. Orkneys look beautiful and very quiet. Poppy had fun on the beach 😃 Trev n Sue
Thanks, so many beaches to enjoy in the Orkney Islands!
Poppy loving the beach ❤❤
Hello Bob and Jenny many thanks for sharing and I hope you enjoy your time in Orkney. We travelled up there in June and luckily had absolutely brilliant weather, sunburnt in Orkney now that is a first for me 😂. The Scrabster ferry is by far the better route when travelling in your motorhome reversing on is not the best. I agree with an earlier comment that this air bag fault is very well known and Fiat should do a recall on this matter as it is a real safety concern. I guess the meanng of FIAT, "Fix It Again Tony" is correct, but alas again and again. Complain to Trading Standards that this part is not of merchantisable quality. Enjoy your travels and stay safe. ❤👍
Thanks, we didn't want the Scrabster ferry because that was the one Jenny was sea sick on.
I did warn you about reversing on! We use Northlink from Scrabster, much better and a lovely ship! Also dog lounge.
That's the one Jenny was sea sick on and why we went with Pentland Ferries.
Pentland ferries newest vessel MV Alfred has a dog lounge but MV Alfred is away on a 9 month charter for calmac
Yes and when we booked it, we thought they had a pet lounge too.
Hi Bob, Jenny and Poppy, Oh No! what a nuisance, gosh you think it would be a free repair as its a fault x. Lovely sight seeing the ferry coming in. Wow reversing on, brilliant Bob. Lovely scenery out to sea. Glad you got rid of the alarm fingers crossed. Nice history. Poppy loved the beach, so cute x Julie and Tony x
Thanks, unfortunately not a free repair, out of warranty and no recall.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo that’s a shame Bob, x
Seems like the Castle of Maei was occupaide buy ther owner during your visit in the provins! 👸🤴🏰🏴🇬🇧🇸🇪
Yes the King and Queen are in residence.
Great video hope you get some decent weather 👍
Thanks, the weather did get better.
Bob - might be idea to check the body control module for a good earth , however you may need a obd scanner to check functionality of all related air bag sensors before you purchase a new airbag ecu .
I once read where someone had added an additional earth strap.. I noticed on ours that the location pins were painted fiat white with the cab.?. 2018 model
Yes, it would be interesting to see if anyone found that stopped it?
I had this on my Motorhome Fiat I had to have new ECU done. They tried to charge me 2019 Motorhome I said they knew this was fault and that their is enough evidence I would take up with trading standards they didn’t charge me in the end.
Good video as usual, Poppy loves it,
Sorry to hear you are still having problems with the air bag warning - the beeping must have driven you mad. Could you have stayed in the van if you wanted to? I found (as I’m sure you will have) that on some of the CalMac ones you can stay in your vehicle if you wish (Skye crossing and Into Loch Ranza ferry on Arran let us stay in.
Looks a lovely island.
Enjoy your trip - all the best, David & Rachel 👍
Don't know, but I think it might have been a bit boring in the van!
I’m on the third repair for the air bag module, crash data was great turn around, said low battery volt , next one was high battery volt.
I wish there was a permanent fix !!!!
Wow, it's not good.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo if this helps , the high voltage one. Van plugged in mains so your battery is on charge so volts a little higher, so I. Never start Van plugged in. Now.
The Low volts , changed the battery, also now my solar chargers leisure battery when that’s full , it trickles charge Engine battery so volts should never be low.
I’m sure like a lot of people have said. Fiat should have done something about this problem. Would be interesting how many have had to be repaired
Thanks, yes some sensible precautions there. What I struggle to understand is how the vehicle battery could have gone low, it had been plugged in all night.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo I’m with you Bob. I more think there is a problem with the Fiat electric system, dropping volts when you turn the key to start etc. shame we don’t know a Fiat tech that would spill the beans on what is wrong with them. Ps. One of the times my unit went I was happy driving along so definitely not low battery or high.
Him Guy’s had exactly same problem, when in Denmark, 2 years ago, as with your’s both airbag and seat belt warning light came on. After spending nearly £900.00. Thought problem solved. Then came back on about week later. Brought new airbag part that fits near engine battery, seems common problem with Fiat’s since fitted new one, no problem.😊😊
Hi Bob, Jenny. Another great vid as always. The airbag light again though😢.. We are on our second ecu in 5 months, 1st one sent away and repaired, second one was a new one. This is far too common. Fiat should be more involved and replace foc with an upgraded version. They are clearly too sensitive in some way. I was also told low battery voltage caused the issue, but the 2 onboard battery systems suggested 12. 5v? Fitted a new battery anyhow, but not convinced it needed one.
Yes, this problem comes up far too often. These modules seem far too flakey.
Great video. Did you not know it wasn't a RORO before you booked? Scrabster is the alternative. Do you not travel with gas turned on? Can you not turn off the alert sounds, there is usually a volume setting in the menu. Is it the passenger airbag or the drivers? The Pentland can be tricky if the ramp is steep due to the tide, you were lucky you did not ground out the Thule. Happy travels
I did manage to turn the beeping off with the mode button eventually. It doesn't say which air bag is faulty, just air bag fault. I took the bike rack off, thought I said that. I did know it was a RORO ferry, I thought it was a case of doing a U turn, that's why i was surprised. Yes I turned the gas off. We went via Scrabster last time, but we wanted the shorter crossing.
The dreaded airbag fault! Obviously a design screwup by the amount of boxers/ducatos which have this issue. Wonder if it's sorted in the new Ducato model ?
I doubt it!
@@BobEarnshawMoHo Don't you use one of the third-party "fix" outfits e.g. Crashdata ?
I did ruclips.net/video/QjVBe-jKA8Y/видео.html
Nightmare about the airbag noises. I'm not keen on seacat ferries but definitely appreciate getting there quicker as opposed to way too many hours.
Enjoyed this
It was pretty stable but most importantly quick.
I’m fairly sure you can send off a module of the airbag control box and have it reset for about £85. Might be worth investigating that option before spending £800 ? on a whole new one?
Thank you I've already done that, this is the second time!
ruclips.net/video/QjVBe-jKA8Y/видео.html
Gosh, driving down those narrow lanes, missing your turning , the air bag fault and then having to reverse onto the ferry. How do you keep cool and your hair !!
I do try to remain calm, it helps if the cameeis running too. 😊
All these sensors are just money makers 😒These manufacturers should be held to account for the absolute garbage they are selling, wouldn't have been put up with 30 years ago
Yes a Bedford CF was a lot more straightforward!
Travel trolls have the same problem and have sent their control box off to be reset. Suggest you contact them and get the details before you are charged £800 for a new one. Good luck.
Yes it was me who told them about it I first had the problem in April ruclips.net/video/QjVBe-jKA8Y/видео.html
Dan got the idea from Bob 😂😂
Hi bob how much was ferry crossing
£250 return booked direct with Pentland Ferries
Luckily no Tow Car on this trip, else the ferry would have been a nightmare.
Would have had to unhitch and drive on separately.
Switch of Ignition and try disconnecting Battery for 10 mins to see if that sorts the Airbag out? I may of course be a completely different problem with it??
Thanks, I did try that on the original problem with no effect, might be worth a go in the morning though.
All these common known faults should be fixed for free totally unfair our Ford Kuga power shift gearbox died quoted £3500 for refurb box which is a known fault love watching your videos it might be cheaper for you to move to Scotland with the amount of trips you take up there
Just need error message to be deleted surely.
If only. Module needs it's memory cleared and reset.
Hi bob how much was the ferry crossing 13:30 13:30
£250 return booked direct with Pentland Ferries.
With such a common fault on the Ducato, it's shameful that Fiat don't issue a free recall to fix the problem.
It's a problem with Citroën and Peugeot too.
Never be over 5.3 Metres
We love our beds too much. 🛏️🛌
Can you just snip the airbag wire ?
I'd like air bags to work if possible!
Buy yourself Multiecuscan and a new Airbag module from a Fiat dealer.
Did that work for you?
Assuming you have a Fiat, Multiecuscan (Mes) will allow you to read the airbag fault code. It won't allow you to repair the airbag module but if you buy a new module from Fiat (the only safe option) MES will do the proxy alignment. This is what I did. Less the £300 for airbag module, MES is £50 (you need a Windoze PC). MES is useful, there is a free demo version. I've also used it to change my tank from 60 to 90 litres. P.S. MES will probably work on Pugs and Citroens.
Thanks for the information, I'm probably going to have to go to the dealer to see about getting a replacement.
Bob what do you mean abouy ‘started up too quickly’ I don’t get it. How annoying for you 😢
Apparently you turn the ignition on, wait for the lights to go out and if they don't, you don't start it as there is a fault. Sounds like an excuse to me.
I was always taught when I was starting diesels up to turn on ignition till dash lights went out to give the glow plugs time to heat up
Bob, I've sent u a pm on messenger.
Thanks, but I'd probably go back to Crashdata in Liverpool who I used before.