Mathews Lift Review (New look and feel)
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00:00 - Introduction
00:25 - Talking Points
14:25 - Freestyle Shoot
23:33 - Speed
27:47 - Sound
29:02 - Grading
33:45 - Outro
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Thanks for your time and effort making these videos. I had surgery on my arm last year and had been looking for a new bow. Always been a Bowtech guy but after watching some of your videos on Elite I tested a Terrain and it fits my repaired arm great. Thanks again
I own two bowtech solutions
Imo there's absolutely no other bow smoother than the solution
Of course with the mod on the comfort side
Just picked up my Lift a couple of weeks ago and cannot wait to take it to TAC!! Great review!!
Solid review!
My shop is supposed to have some lefties at the end of December, looking like my next bow. I can't really afford it, and for sure can't afford to put their accessories on it, but I need a new one lol.
My favorite bow channel now😎👍
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Good job! Got mine ordered. Bottomland of course.
Having owned a V3X33 and 29, the Lifts are superior in draw and hold in every facet to me. Smoother, better transitions into the valleys, way easier to let down. I hate long valleys that snap your shoulder out of socket if you have to let down. I shot them at 29"/70lb. The 29.5 drew 69.4 and the 33 drew 70.8, and both hit the proper draw lengths for the mods. The 29.5 got 291fps and the 33 292fps with a 440 grain arrow. The 33 has the best draw of all '24 releases in my opinion.
I shot the lift and the hoyt alpha x30.bought the hoyt because it fit me well. Love your reviews
Great review! I would love to see a comparison video or just your thoughts on this bow compared to the xlite 31. I’ve watched bow your reviews on them and if you had to pick one for whitetail deer hunting which one and why not factoring in cost.
Thanks for the honest reviews! Keep them coming.
Those cams look like what's on my Bowtech Prodigy from 2015. My Prodigy is smooth, fast, and quiet as well, and I bought it for $450 plus $200 for 70# limbs and new cams (bow was dry-fired, unbeknownst to my friend who sold it to me, and was previously "worked" on by someone we both know).
I’m telling you if this thing is improved on the phase 4 it is the bow to beat All the top brand bows are great I’m not like a pickup truck guy They’re all good But I was blown away with the phase 4 Couldn’t wait for the new and they stay in production if I want to upgrade
Perfect bedtime scroll 😂
To sum up the lift bows. 1/2 pound lighter and 5 fps faster than comparable V3x and Phase 4.
With a completely different draw cycle to me
love the shout out to the V3X, best bow.
ima wait to see the 2024 mathews bow, if its dope, ima get it, if its not, ima get the lift
Still have mine think I’m gana run at tac this year
Thanks for the review. What weight arrow did you use for the decibel test?
Same as speed 500g
Everybody is getting all excited about shot sense but it's the same as the Mantis X8 archery app which has been around. Nock on had the mantis x8 for 75$ over black friday.
Shot sense it inside the riser the mantis isn’t shot sense will be more accurate
@@Getdownorlaydownbum Have you used any mantis products?, because they are very precise. Mantis is the global leader in firearm dry fire training and I'd bet money shot sense was developed by mantis. Except mantis x8 can be ran on any bow with a bolted on sight for 150$ and shot sense is mathew's only and cost over 300$.
I ordered mine a little over a week ago because i am a lefty the green fade to black cant wait for me to get my hands on it the only bad thing is it will be about a 4 week wait
I was told march for lefty fade to black to come in lol
I’ll say it again, as a Hoyt guy this bow intrigues me! I just need a ‘lefty’ to show up somewhere….😄👊🏻🏹
The shop I use in Texas said they ordered 50 of them and should be here Dec 20th, lefties included. Guess we will see, I heard lefties were going to be later.
IMO the RX8 is better
What's wrong with Hoyt?? You shoot one now why would you change and what's wrong with the new Hoyt bows. I think that they are just as good if not even better than the new Mathews!!! Think before you buy one!!@
I’ve had a 3D elk for over a decade sitting outside. If you slap on some good house primer like Kilz and then some house paint in elk colors, you not only can preserve the target for almost infinity, it will look so true to life you’ll feel like you’re aiming at a real elk. They make good foam kits if you are getting the core shot out, too. Just something to think about. That bare foam means the investment is going to rapidly loose value if you don’t do something. Just a thought. Nice review!
Due to Bidenomics there are too many VTM's , V3X's and Carbon One's hanging on walls at bow shops looking to get sold at a discount. My guess is next years Lift will be the ShiZnit. Things are just too tough this year for a new bow, no biggie just focus on other aspects of the game that I have been neglecting drooling over new bows. I hope you test the APA flagship this year, thanks for all that you do dude. You have a spot in the jeep hunting hogs on Ft. Stewart anytime.
Apa black mamba pro should be here today I’m pumped
cant wait for that...@@BackyardBows
Awesome review. Any issues with bows moving out of the EZ green press with past parallel bows? Or do you have the adaptors?
Worked on it in the shop with some adapters
I'll have around 1600 in mine but I'm also not using anything integrated besides my hamskea epsilon
Strong angle at 29 in draw not bad ?
Mathew’s is known for efficiency, so it’s odd that there was so much variance in the speed testing.
That being said, not a Mathew’s guys, but spec wise, this is the best bow they have put out in years. One finally worth the hype of their marketing to me. If I were in the market, I would be testing out the 33” with 80lb mods. That weight with that speed would be a great combo. Being someone who prefers versatility and tune ability, this still has my attention.
One of these shops should take 3 of the same bows and set them up identical and speed test all three to see if there’s any variation
Good to see they’re getting back to light bows … and keeping noise and vibration down at the same time
you should check out the bear surpass!
Shot it alongside the RVX/Revex 4, & Ethos. The Prime just felt better to me.
The ethos won for me lol. It's funny how different people's preferences can be. But mathews will never be in the running for me anymore. All the money in mods and stabilizers is nuts. They just don't seem to care about the customer at all. They could learn alot from prime and elite
Very solid review. Enjoyed the video!
But is is ESpecially. Not EXpecially. 🤣🤣
Dam lololol I’m dying
I only paid $1200 for my lift 29.5 and havnt upgraded since the chill. Would like to see the review with 80% mods since they aren’t available yet only 85% is. Enjoyed your review keep it up sir 👍
Where did you get it for 12?
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 in scheels in Texas all black is cheaper than camo
I’ll be sticking with my trusty ole Halon again especially with a price tag of $3000 😮. Beautiful bow though.
It's like 1300, not 3k
It is no doubt quieter than then phase 4
Thanks for the video, was looking at either Mathews or Prime. Prime seems a little faster with just as much comfort. What’s your thoughts.
Two completely diff feels due to grip placement that is all up to each shooter, same performance for me
Does your bow always come sited in? All your videos your shots are already spot on lol
No I’ll site in to 20 most of the time and with the sites I use can usually get out to 50 with the pins set making slight adjustment s
Are you gonna review the Matthews five pin site that has been specifically made for that bow??
Yes
Great looking bow. Awesome review. You should do a review on a Gearhead Archery Disrupter Pro 24.
I’ve been back and forth with skip I’m trying
Brandon what kind of release do you have?? What is the brand and name??
Spot hog wise guy with boa strap
Elite Omnia (King of the Hill) or Mathews Lift ?
Thanks,
John
Neither, Elite Ethos
What length is that stabilizer on the bow in the video
12 inch
Which bow do u like most Mathews lift or the new prime
Here they come 😂 I hate these questions Jk, if someone gave me both and I could keep one I would keep the rvx, but I have also put in feild, got a old buck and 3 does with it, easy to draw in the tree, sets up quick for this moments that happen fast, I would like to feild test the lift
After watching some other reviews on speed.... something seems off here just based on grain arrow and bow setup. Seems like a good bow either way.
It’s because there IBO test was done with the bow set at 80lbs
@@BackyardBowsThat'll do it. I'm finally back in the market... shooting an '08 DXT Still. Your reviews are VERY helpful. That Alpha is tempting.
The IBO rated speed was done with 80% mods in the cam. Supposedly that will give you an extra 4-5 fps.
I’d be interested to see how the new strings last.
Mathews did their speed rating at 80lbs this year. They have been open about it.
@@hunteradamson5024 you are incorrect. They followed the ATA specs for speed testing 70# at 30” draw length with a 350 grain arrow. What ATA doesn’t specify is the let off percentage to do it at. Mathews chose the 80% mods because they are on average 4-5fps faster. If they had tested at 80# they would be advertising significantly over 350fps.
@ckslim8671 pretty sure every advertised number they put out was ibo. Not Ata.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 ata testing for speed can also be advertised as ibo. If 348 was achieved at 80 pounds what benefit would Mathews gain from it? Because at 70 it would ether slowest bow released this year by a major manufacturer. In multiple reviews it’s achieving 8-10 fps more than the Phase 4 with equal set ups. I’ve yet to see any statement from Mathews directly stating that they tested at 80 pounds.
Rating their speed as ibo gives more leeway in the specs as you can be 2 pounds overweight whereas ata requires 0.2 pounds + or -.
@@ckslim8671 I’ve been told that from people at Mathews. It’s tested speeds have been bested by bows that advertise 8fps slower on several reviews. I chronoed it myself and it’s quick but it’s not 348 quick.
Hey man I think your chronograph is having issues I have the same one and I'm getting close to the same speed with the lift 33 at 29 inches that and you said the prime was 10fps slower than last year and there the same bow
I’ve seen a lot of speed discrepancy regarding the rvx so I’m not sure
@BackyardBows ya even this bow at those specs should be in the high 280s
Hoyt alpha x 33 or lift 33, which has smoother draw cycle?
Lift draw cycle, alpha x shot cycle and hold is solid, little more stable at full draw which matter most
Ill buy it in 5 yrs when i can buy it for $300 bare bow😂 great review. Thnx
I’m gonna be that guy and ask a question you hate. SS34 or Lift? I bought a SS34 5 months ago and couldn’t be more impressed with it. Also have a reckoning that I might trade in for a Lift.
Ss34 it is for me, tech and performance is my style
I heard it’s hard to tune and keep tuned.
I would say if familiar with the system not hard at all, and with the new match strings on them I can imagine them not staying tuned
6 fps variance, its how your shooting through that particular chronograph, 100% were going to comment on the chronograph; the weather outside has nothing to do with it. It's the type of chronograph you are using and depending on where you send that arrow inside that window is why your getting drastically different speeds. For instance with the 500g arrow, you dont go 269,269, 275. Your numbers are all over the place bud. If you don't believe me shoot it through the top of the window and then shoot it at the bottom of the window, 3x in a row each.
Yes It’s def placement in the crono
when 500 grains is faster then 484 on the chrono somethings up 500 grains 279 then 484 grains goes 277 I love your reviews and dont care about the speed per say but there is something going on to get a 10 fps change in the same arrow then a lighter arrow goes slower then the more heavy arrow on one of those shots anywho thx for the awesome review man thats just my 2 pennies which dont mean much lol God Bless... I will be getting the Lift 29.5 asap...
Let’s take a average the 500g FMJ got 270-272 the 484g LRP got 277 which is about right for that weight difference
man im just happy you do these I find my chrono gives different readings depending where the arrow goes through like top or bottom I also use a light kit inside like you do I also hunt 550 grains if you ever get a chance see what it will do at 80 pounds if and when the mods are out. also I in no way was complaining man thx for the hard work that goes into these videos ...@@BackyardBows
@@jasonard7227 appreciate it brother cronos are to finicky for people to get bent out of shape about one particular reading
I see a lot more reviews lately using the new garmin and it seems to be more consistent. Definitely saw higher speeds from the lift.
yea I want one of those but gotta save for this new bow first lol@@rickd0320
I wonder how you haven't gone up the charts with this one
Proof you don't need an overpriced and typically foreign made carbon bow. I'm interested to see your comparison of the LIFT to the Alpha X
Alpha x soon
I really like this bow, but I wouldn't buy one only because I don't like the yoke system. If they went back to static yokes, I would seriously look into getting one. Who really wants to mess with tophats when you can yoke tune???
Me, 100%. Top hats are a more stable tuning platform. All the major manufacturers have gone away from yoke tuning for good reason.
How many times do you need to shim, or tune a bow? Most guys- once.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 I'm a bow mechanic/tuner. I work on bows every day. As a member of an archery club with 500 members (and their families), that's a lot of bows that has crossed my hands. For most guys, yes, once, but most guys don't know what they're getting in to when they buy a bow by name brand only.
While using tophats to shift the cams is easier than moving shims around, it still doesn't give you the best tune, consistently, and you'll still have to set the rest in or out a little. Static yokes can and will achieve that, and much more easily, too Second to that, I'll move shims around to get perfect centershot/centerflight. It make take longer through trial and error, but at the end of the day, I'll sleep better knowing the bow was done right!
You're right to be skeptical about the rubber between the limbs. Idk why people are giving you shit about that, it's really no secret that rubber isn't the most durable material and it's only been a design that's been around for 2 years. Give these bows 4-5 years in the field going from warm trucks to 20° treestands, getting wet, getting muddy, humidity, and UV from sunlight. Could really see a problem down the line.
Well said, my thought almost exactly
Hopefully they stand behind their warranty then.
Everyone's taste differs, and I have liked very few Mathews bows based on looks alone. This falls in the same camp of not appealing to me.
I find it interesting that all the reviewers are excited for Mathew's "Shot Sense", but yet no one is using the Mantis X8?
Inform me I don’t know about everything
@@BackyardBowsit’s the same idea as shot sense but goes on any bow
Yea, 350 for mathews stuff, or mantis goes on any bow, and I got one from nock on for 75 bucks on black Friday.
I shot it against the rx8 ultra, same weight and draw length. I hung the lift back up after 3 shots. That being said, I went in expecting to buy the lift. It was just too much vibration, felt like a freaking tuning fork. Also both bows had no stabilizer. The rx8 ultra was by far a better bow, and that’s coming from a Mathews fan boy.
Rx8 is up next can’t wait
My lift i bought had the same problem with the vibration. I finally figure out that my string stop was adjusted out a hair too far causing it to jump and vibrate more.Not saying that is everyones fix but it was for mine!
@GrantBontrager my v3 31 was like that till I git the stop adjusted right, New set of strings, and I'll probably be keeping it now.
Sir, how would you compare the new lift against the "Safari Monster"? In my opinion the Safari is still the untouchable King of all compoundbows on Planet. Would you agree? Kindest regards SA.
Polar opposite safari is a absolute beast the lift is a peice of art lol Safari is heavy and fast, lift is light with ok speeds, I think this questions depends on the man
@@BackyardBows Thank you very much for answering that fast :) I really enjoy all of your videos, Sir. Very high quality there. May I give you a new "Idea"? Wouldn´t it be a cool addition to your Bowvideos, If you would do a slowmotion video of the Bows (filmed from the side view), the moment you shoot an arrow? Then cutt the recorded clips and lay one over the other, you know what I mean? "Ghost Videos". So people can actually see how the bows riser, limbs, cams and strings are flexing and vibrating. The more the differences are, the more a bow tends to be "shocky". And it would also look awesome :) Kindest regards from Germany.
@@SUPERSONIC_ARCHERY love that idea and have had that in mind since the beginning, being able to afford the camera that can capture that has been my issue but yes one day will be very cool to see
@@BackyardBows Dear Sir,
Perhaps I could lend you a helping hand. You don't need a "slow-motion camera." Depending on your video editing software, you can slow down the recorded video through the software settings. For instance, every time I do bow reviews on my channel, I employ this same trick. Additionally, you can configure the recorded video to be slightly "transparent," allowing you to overlay two different bows. With this trick, you can demonstrate how much one bow "swings" or "vibrates" compared to the other bow. As I mentioned, I often use the "slow-motion effect" in my videos to better illustrate my shooting technique or arrow flight.
P.S. It's a pity you live so far away; I would love to engage in a 3D archery course challenge with you someday :)
Best regards, Supersonic Archery
@@SUPERSONIC_ARCHERY thank you for the help I will forward this to Kyle and see if we can put in a review much appreciated
Man Matthew's is starting to walk on thin ice with the cut outs, I work with aluminum and while the 61 alloy they use is strong there is a point where to much is cut out and will make that riser weak.
That was something I wondered as well but I have a feeling with todays tech they wouldn’t Risk to much idk
Triangles are the strongest shape.
All manufacturers lie about speed its called marketing. A five year old bow will kill just as good as the lates and greatest . Influencers will tell you YOU NEED IT BAD ,TO EMPTY YOUR WALLET.
Def not trying to influence anyone cause I could care less what you shoot
Bottomland was to dark, it needed to be lighted up
After my v3x 33 gave me fits and shooting a Prime Revx 4 I will never shoot another Mathews again and I have owned almost all of them the hold the grip the draw cycle is unmatched best shooting bow by far !!!
Where Are the mods??????
Same as usually interchangeable mods screwed on to the cam, one for each draw weight, draw length option and either 80 or 85 percent let off.
Wow, pretty slow, I would have thought it would be faster with that draw cycle and IBO rating. My pse Omen with EC2 cam is faster at 68 pounds 28.5" draw and a 493gr arrow, and it draws nicer
I have a V3X33 now, and I'm not sure I want to change. The Lift is a great bow, but the draw isn't the most pleasant, and it dumps noticeably into the valley. But you have to give it up to Mathews, they made a lot of changes, and it's amazing how light this bow is. The speeds seemed very inflated and I think they are more inline with previous models. You do a nice job on the reviews
I have the V3X 33 & Ventum Pro 33, i see no reason to upgrade honestly I have 12-14k shots out of my V3X with a stock string so far. Just ordered new Gas strings for both bows!
Do yourself a favor and start paying attention to foot placement. You shoot a closed stance. If you bring your back foot forward youll be alot more stable.
when I’m 18 feet up in a tree on a 16x16 platform my feet are very similar to how I stand on the ground, u want to replicate how u shoot in the field
Phase 4 75lb IBO vs Lift 80lb IBO the poundage changed so the testing conditions changed!
MFJJ literally called all of the bow manufacturers and ranted about how they all test their bows at 70#, 30" draw, with a 350 grain arrow. They're just using underhanded tactics to get the speed they're advertising.
@@jackbuendgen389 Advertised speeds really are irrelevant tbh, I choose an arrow weight based on hitting 270-285fps. My target arrows come in at 435 grain & my hunting arrows weight 485 grains using the same shafts. I have shot 420 grain arrows but they have some sketchy flights even with quality tuned bows!.
@@stephengatley8144 this year's TAC bow for me was a bowtech reckoning 35, 70#, 27.5" draw, set on performance. I was shooting a 410 grain arrow 277.
If you had to take the blind folded pepsi challenge on this yrs flagships across all big manufacturers how many of you believe youd be standing with a mathews in your hand when the blind fold came off. The only thing youd be privy to is the chrono results at your dl.
I’m confused what are u asking lol
@BackyardBows my comment is missing a few sentences about mathews marketing and the machine that it is. My point is that a lot guys buy mathews because that's what you do, buy mathews. I'm betting that if a consumer neutral to bowhunting/archery was forced to be blindfolded and pick a bow based on feel, the tech, and actual performance, I don't think as many mathews would be sold.
ok yes sorry I was confused for a sec but that makes sense and I completely agree with you. I think everyone would be surprised at what they chose@@jordanpowell228
@BackyardBows totally agree. Not really a bad bow on the market.
IBO is 80lbs maximum draw length with a 400 grain arrow. Could be why you were surprised by the speeds.
Wrong.ibo is 30 inch draw at 70 pounds.get it right
@@georgehardin8452 IBO is max poundage for the bow (in this case 80lb, with no limit on draw length, at 5gr per pound draw weight, so 400gr arrows) ATA is 70/30/350.
The International Bowhunters Organization has created a standard for bows which is produced through a test. The IBO speed is obtained by shooting a bow with the maximum pull weight of 80 pounds +/- 2 pounds. The arrow used will be 400 grains or 5 grains per pound of draw weight. No required draw length
@georgehardin8452 you listed the ATA. Get it right lmao
@@georgehardin8452 yea, that's not right.....get it right.
Lying so egregiously about the speed is as lame as it gets. That being said, I have not wanted to upgrade from the Halon 32 until now. $1400 is not a ridiculous amount for what’s involved in making this bow. I’m happy Mathews are making the best bow possible, not an “ok” bow people can afford. If you’re on a budget, go find a better deal. IMO the fact this bow is as light as a carbon bow and has such a dead shot is impressive. Look forward to shooting one.
Don’t think you will see anywhere near IBO speed unless you get it to 80lb, 400gr, max out draw length and remove any vanes from arrows.
@@Rowtrac380exactly.
is it just me or your upper limbs look like they are flexing wayyy more than your bottom limbs?
I shot this bow and I couldn’t disagree more on the draw weight and feeling. The draw cycle is very heavy and aggressive start to finish.
What length and weight were u shooting it at
70lb 27.5” draw and it was on the 33” ata. I don’t think you can get extra 8fps speed without a cost on draw cycle. I currently shoot a phase 4 29 and it has a much more comfortable draw cycle imo.
I have a phase 4 29 also. And it is incredibly smooth and quiet. So you dont think the lift is worth upgrading to? Again i love how smooth and easy the phase 4 is to draw.
Cool vlog and nice bow. But like I ask everyone else is how much does Mathews pay to say all of this stuff you said in this vlog. What's wrong with the RX-8 you reviewed earlier and other bows. I think that Mathews pays you all to say that they are the best but there are bows out there that are just as good and even better than Mathews all day!!
Must be new to the channel, I don’t get a paid anything and to be honest mathews won’t even answer my questions or take a phone call about the products I review, also haven’t reviewed the rx8 yet, and I am very aware there is great bows besides Mathew’s why don’t u watch a video or two
@BackyardBows No not new to the channel and I do apologize for not knowing that you have not reviewed the RX-8 but you sit
there and rave about Mathews!!
I watched the review on the Elite Ethos before I watched this one, and he was raving about the Ethos in that video. His ravings are not just for one company.
@@krisaunedi4920 watch the phase 4 review, and rx8 is up next
If you test the bow at 70 lb at 30 inch with 350grain arrow. You would see the speed quoted. As that the test set up in the industry. Not realistic to test with much heavier arrows and think it will still get advertised speed
Im not disagreeing with u it might, It got well below calculated speeds from the ibo 348, which once a heavier hunting arrow is in the mix it doesn’t hold up to other bows with the same ibo
Absolutely no way that is possible. Furthermore, Matthews is known for lying about their IBO speeds.
No bow on the market will actually match the ibo they’re advertising. There are things that manufacturers will do to get the speed that are completely impractical to the average bow Hunter.
He’s not expecting to get 348 with a 500grn arrow, dude. But if the bow really is a 348ibo bow, it should be in the 280s.
@@dennisdallege2628 agreed almost 290
Your crhono is trash. 10-12’ fps off between shots? Lol
You could not give me that thing it is to much money
It just didnt stand a chance against the ethos for me, to be honest nothing did. Im lucky as hell and my best friend owns pats archery in okmulgee ok and i get to shoot all the new bows every year. The ethos was hands down the best for me
There is no way i would pay 3 grand for a bow! I tag out every year on deer and turkeys with a bow i paid 450 bucks for. Im gonna buy another bow this year, thank you for checking mathews products off my list!
You’re not going to want to buy any flagship bow from any company then. This Mathews price is mid range
It’s just money. Some people can afford luxury, some can’t. Knocking a bow like this with a mid-range MSRP in the midst of carbon risers is pretty silly.
Then save the money and go on a cool hunt 🤷
It's just funny to me all the guys I hunt around that bow shame me for shooting what I shoot usually end up calling me to ask for my buddy's number that has trailing dogs. A high dollar ass bow won't kill a damn thing for ya if you dont practice and be able to make a clean ethical kill. I am digging watching the videos, I'm gonna buy another bow this year. I think im still gonna go back with another bowtech but I may try one of the bear bows. Seems like those are a higher quality for the money.
@@jakearcher1118 I'm telling ya dude, if you like what you have save the $3,000 and go on a private land mule deer hunt, or guided black bear hunt.
If you're planning on getting a new bowtech be prepared to buy a set of aftermarket strings right away. I had a SS34 this year that had THE WORST factory strings I've ever seen. The serving unraveled in 6 places within 200 arrows.