You won’t be ashamed. Traded my 2014 XM Summit in for a 2016 Viper mtx and ive owned this viper new since 2016 and absolutely frigin love it. I will never ride another 2 stroke!
I love Yamahas. always high quality. it's very tight and technical where I ride, and so I had to get the right tool for the job, a summit t3 174. I Don't miss the turbo apex at all.
Dm C Unless you want to highmark and ride chutes, the added weight isn't a benefit in my opinion. That being said, if you want to ride the tight and technical, you can't beat the RMK as they are so light. The Summits only really excell out west in the deep wide open powder.
Thanks to arctic cat, Yamaha has nice sleds. I’m a fan of the 2014 1100 turbo m9000. My dream sled pushes 240hp. It’s not the best sled for that year but I love it twin cylinder 4stroke Suzuki turbo. Always wanted one n finally got it this year. Every single brand sled this year is insane. So much power, light, n clean burning. I’m a diehard cat fan but I think ski-doo has the best 2023 sled
Yamaha’s king idc what anyone says. Theirs a reason no skidoo or polaris can make it over 8000kms on oringal engine where Yamaha’s are pushing 20,000 no issues.
I don't think better is the right word. But in high elevation it will climb like no two-stroke. But if you like to play in the tight trees and do more technical riding, the lighter two-strokes are just easier to handle.
Traded my 2014 Doo for a viper mtx. Wouldn’t go back. Once you get used to the weight and the handling you can take them anywhere. With style abs speed the 2 strokes can’t compete with
I bet your skidoos won't make 270 horsepower, mine was on a dino yesterday running 93 octane at 270 hp to the ground. In my opinion size matters, but if u want u can go smaller, you probably can't handle anything that big anyway, I'm a built guy and am already heavy so weights not an issue, and the power balances out, and your probably down to about 70 hp at 10,000 feet and thats just a dog... ill meet u up there and we will compare or we can go to sea level, but I got 270 hp both places, theres just no comparison
Mason Sorensen I use to think the same thing, I'll tell you right now getting rid of my sidewinder this season and going with a 2018 Mountain cat, I couldn't be happier. The weight difference is literally insane, sidehilling, tree riding etc. The best part is when you get stuck, you don't need 4 people to get it going again either. Yes for outright climbing and running chutes you can't beat the track speed the sidewinders can generate, but I just got tired of the weight, literaly.
Sorry dyno, and my Yamaha Nytro with Mcxpress turbo kit puts out 270 bad ass, unbeatable killer power at any altitude so I’ll meet u sea leve or at the top of a mountain where u only have 100 or maybe even less
I actually have a Nytro MTX and the thing os a monster and tbh weights not really something I care about because I weigh 140lbs and am 17 years old, so I’m not old enough to know the difference
Mason Sorensen It's more less how much more energy you have throughout the day thanks to an easier handling sledding. I ride the technical stuff so power isn't that much of an issue for me, sounds like we're opposites.
No need for heavy motors, sleds or cheap parts that break, in this day of great thinking and consciousness technology, for those who KNOWS what I'm talking about
Yamaha did not build that sled, they built then engine, but the chassis is all Arctic cat. That's great for the employees of Arctic Cat, but Yamaha needs to get back into building their own AND get back to building 2-Strokes. While BRP is continuing to grow, Yamaha just holds on to last place sales wise. I had a Yamaha years ago, but buying a 4-stroke is NEVER going to be in my plans. I don't care if they make a 300HP sled, not interested in a Semi-truck for a sled. Sorry.
Who cares who built it? I don't care if Rotax is building my 800 Ski doo engine. But what I do know is that i'm tired of it breaking. My buddy drives a Sidewinder, and it rips in powder
Far N, yeah Polaris’s are nice sleds! I used Yamaha products for a long time but the Yamacat was the nail in the coffin. Basically wouldn’t buy either Yamaha or Arctic cat after that disappointment they sold me. Hope that Polaris treats you well out there!
If only you could show a real rider on it for the demo videos. Not saying your bad but it’s easy to see your not a 4 stroke rider. That sleds manhandling you. Not trying to be rude just calling it out as I see it.
I rode Yamaha for about 3 years (2014 Yamaha Viper) super disappointed. Spent more time in the shop then out in the snow. Highly recommend buying anything other than Yamaha, until they start taking the game more seriously
Brody Tippet. So the issues were oil sensor, fuel sensor, cold weather starting issues, bad vibration in deep snow, tether. The oil issue put me out of the game for about 4 months. The machine would go into limp mode during any climb that the sled lifted the skis off the ground due to “low oil” Yamaha didn’t have a fix for it and left me without a sled for 4 months, Yamaha apparently knew about this as they sold me the sled. Fuel sensor almost left me 18 miles from my truck on a perfect blue bird day which was cut short due to the sled constantly dying also took 2 weeks for them to figure it out. Cold starting issued left me on yet another ride-less day when it dropped to -15 F over night and the sled didn’t start. Which sucked because I had a couple friends counting on me pulling the trailer. Bad vibrations in deep snow was never resolved but did leave me without the sled for 1 week. The bullshit tether Yamaha sold me and installed broke after a 300 mile commute to ride with friends leaving me sitting at base camp without a sled and just embarrassed. The sled essentially made me write off Yamaha and Arctic cat. I will never buy another product from either of them again. Buying a Yamaha is a quick way for your friends to forget your number before they go out and tear up the mountains. Hope this helps and answers your question.
@@whenibecamethesun..8759 don’t know why you would say that. Some guys I knew bought 2018 2019 Polaris and they blew up. One guy bought 2 one for him and the other for his wife and they both took a crap didn’t even get 300 miles on them. Yamaha builds good motors. I’ve seen ppl with 16,000 miles and more on those things and never had any problems. Everybody sooner or later might have a few lemons it happens.
I might trade in my 800 doo for it. I'm tired of filling oil and replacing pistons
You won’t be ashamed. Traded my 2014 XM Summit in for a 2016 Viper mtx and ive owned this viper new since 2016 and absolutely frigin love it. I will never ride another 2 stroke!
The 3 positions fox (ctd: climb, trail, descent) have been around for a very long time in the mountain bike market
I love Yamahas. always high quality. it's very tight and technical where I ride, and so I had to get the right tool for the job, a summit t3 174. I Don't miss the turbo apex at all.
Dm C Unless you want to highmark and ride chutes, the added weight isn't a benefit in my opinion. That being said, if you want to ride the tight and technical, you can't beat the RMK as they are so light. The Summits only really excell out west in the deep wide open powder.
Apex chassis is a FAR cry from the 18 Pro Climb
The Sidewinder is no comparison to the sidewinder. Don’t get me wrong Apex is an amazing sled but other oem got nothing on a sidewinder
Thanks to arctic cat, Yamaha has nice sleds. I’m a fan of the 2014 1100 turbo m9000. My dream sled pushes 240hp. It’s not the best sled for that year but I love it twin cylinder 4stroke Suzuki turbo. Always wanted one n finally got it this year. Every single brand sled this year is insane. So much power, light, n clean burning. I’m a diehard cat fan but I think ski-doo has the best 2023 sled
I would love to find a sidewinder mtx out here in South Dakota but they're hard to find in my area.
That thing makes my back hurt just looking at it.
Its amazing how you can type from the couch?
Half Nelson... This is 2018 dumbass, who types from a couch?
I was thinking this tiny ass guy was a couch surfer? Have you ever been outside in the snow?
Get a life keyboard warrior
The 1980s called and wants it's snow suit back!
Retro ;-)
Yamaha’s king idc what anyone says. Theirs a reason no skidoo or polaris can make it over 8000kms on oringal engine where Yamaha’s are pushing 20,000 no issues.
Is it really better on the mountain than a 850 e-tec though?
I don't think better is the right word. But in high elevation it will climb like no two-stroke. But if you like to play in the tight trees and do more technical riding, the lighter two-strokes are just easier to handle.
Motor wise 100% 4 strokes have always been better then 2 strokes. Just gotta be confident you can throw it around
learned many things about building snowmobiles. yeah just make the exact same sled as arctic cat?
would you consider this sled as easy to ride in the tight?
Traded my 2014 Doo for a viper mtx. Wouldn’t go back. Once you get used to the weight and the handling you can take them anywhere. With style abs speed the 2 strokes can’t compete with
I bet your skidoos won't make 270 horsepower, mine was on a dino yesterday running 93 octane at 270 hp to the ground. In my opinion size matters, but if u want u can go smaller, you probably can't handle anything that big anyway, I'm a built guy and am already heavy so weights not an issue, and the power balances out, and your probably down to about 70 hp at 10,000 feet and thats just a dog... ill meet u up there and we will compare or we can go to sea level, but I got 270 hp both places, theres just no comparison
Mason Sorensen I use to think the same thing, I'll tell you right now getting rid of my sidewinder this season and going with a 2018 Mountain cat, I couldn't be happier. The weight difference is literally insane, sidehilling, tree riding etc. The best part is when you get stuck, you don't need 4 people to get it going again either. Yes for outright climbing and running chutes you can't beat the track speed the sidewinders can generate, but I just got tired of the weight, literaly.
Dino, like Dinosaur? I'm confused, how did a dinosaur tell you how much power your sled has?
Sorry dyno, and my Yamaha Nytro with Mcxpress turbo kit puts out 270 bad ass, unbeatable killer power at any altitude so I’ll meet u sea leve or at the top of a mountain where u only have 100 or maybe even less
I actually have a Nytro MTX and the thing os a monster and tbh weights not really something I care about because I weigh 140lbs and am 17 years old, so I’m not old enough to know the difference
Mason Sorensen It's more less how much more energy you have throughout the day thanks to an easier handling sledding. I ride the technical stuff so power isn't that much of an issue for me, sounds like we're opposites.
heavy. exactly the problem. dropped my Sr viper. skidoo bcx 850!
For a 12 year old it's heavy yeah. It performs equal or better in the pow compared to my 800 doo. I've tried my buddy's.
Skidoos suck ass! Constantly in the shop. My viper is 10 times the sled my XM doo was.
does it use the acender (Arctic) chassie?
Dat Boi No, that's a 2018 only M8000 thing.
No need for heavy motors, sleds or cheap parts that break, in this day of great thinking and consciousness technology, for those who KNOWS what I'm talking about
Yamaha did not build that sled, they built then engine, but the chassis is all Arctic cat. That's great for the employees of Arctic Cat, but Yamaha needs to get back into building their own AND get back to building 2-Strokes. While BRP is continuing to grow, Yamaha just holds on to last place sales wise. I had a Yamaha years ago, but buying a 4-stroke is NEVER going to be in my plans. I don't care if they make a 300HP sled, not interested in a Semi-truck for a sled. Sorry.
ahill7866 yamacat
ahill7866 then your artic tractors don't have turbo motors
ahill7866 ya I done waiting for a all new japan built yammy...hello polaris...and polaris quads too..bye yamaha
ahill7866 Yamaha is gettin out of sleds
Who cares who built it? I don't care if Rotax is building my 800 Ski doo engine. But what I do know is that i'm tired of it breaking. My buddy drives a Sidewinder, and it rips in powder
i love yamaha .
Far N, yeah Polaris’s are nice sleds! I used Yamaha products for a long time but the Yamacat was the nail in the coffin. Basically wouldn’t buy either Yamaha or Arctic cat after that disappointment they sold me. Hope that Polaris treats you well out there!
If only you could show a real rider on it for the demo videos. Not saying your bad but it’s easy to see your not a 4 stroke rider. That sleds manhandling you. Not trying to be rude just calling it out as I see it.
I want that engine in a small plane
Yamaha learned not to use their own chassis!
Plunk down some cash....how about $1 deposit
Arctic cat viper lol
That guy is a terrible actor
Lmao
I rode Yamaha for about 3 years (2014 Yamaha Viper) super disappointed. Spent more time in the shop then out in the snow. Highly recommend buying anything other than Yamaha, until they start taking the game more seriously
Red 06 why was it in the shop
Brody Tippet. So the issues were oil sensor, fuel sensor, cold weather starting issues, bad vibration in deep snow, tether. The oil issue put me out of the game for about 4 months. The machine would go into limp mode during any climb that the sled lifted the skis off the ground due to “low oil” Yamaha didn’t have a fix for it and left me without a sled for 4 months, Yamaha apparently knew about this as they sold me the sled. Fuel sensor almost left me 18 miles from my truck on a perfect blue bird day which was cut short due to the sled constantly dying also took 2 weeks for them to figure it out. Cold starting issued left me on yet another ride-less day when it dropped to -15 F over night and the sled didn’t start. Which sucked because I had a couple friends counting on me pulling the trailer. Bad vibrations in deep snow was never resolved but did leave me without the sled for 1 week. The bullshit tether Yamaha sold me and installed broke after a 300 mile commute to ride with friends leaving me sitting at base camp without a sled and just embarrassed. The sled essentially made me write off Yamaha and Arctic cat. I will never buy another product from either of them again. Buying a Yamaha is a quick way for your friends to forget your number before they go out and tear up the mountains. Hope this helps and answers your question.
Red 06 that’s too bad that happened.
Red 06 I love Yamaha but I would never buy a yamacat...polaris has my business now.
@@whenibecamethesun..8759 don’t know why you would say that. Some guys I knew bought 2018 2019 Polaris and they blew up. One guy bought 2 one for him and the other for his wife and they both took a crap didn’t even get 300 miles on them. Yamaha builds good motors. I’ve seen ppl with 16,000 miles and more on those things and never had any problems. Everybody sooner or later might have a few lemons it happens.
Qs shock's lol
Sure as hell don't know how to make a good 2 stroke motor. Haven't since the 70's.
srx 700
You forget about the SRX700?
Willy Biddiscombe red head triple...seen some with 40k kms on em no rebuild
my lawn mower is a 2-stroke. Runs like crap and sounds like a trumpet
Vk540 is still being made today