9 Shocking Moments from Ruby Franke’s Sentencing for Child Abuse

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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  2 месяца назад +74

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    • @lightningmcqueen181
      @lightningmcqueen181 2 месяца назад +16

      The most moving thing I've heard in this whole saga is
      That Gentleman who called 911 for the little boy.. The man began to Break down as he described the little boys description!
      As a father that Choked me up

    • @cheesecake4648
      @cheesecake4648 2 месяца назад +1

      we don't believe you, you attention h0re. move along.@@LexieLou435

    • @carolyn6288
      @carolyn6288 2 месяца назад

      @@LexieLou435 do tell please

    • @highdesertbiker
      @highdesertbiker 2 месяца назад +1

      Hey I just wanted to say props on the team here who put this video together. EXCELLENT editing. Really nice flow. Tons of great information and very easy to watch.

    • @marikafranke5046
      @marikafranke5046 2 месяца назад

      @sertbiker Except sound, that had been left neglected totally.

  • @jamesrobbins1243
    @jamesrobbins1243 2 месяца назад +2081

    Never forget, right after her arrest, Ruby was so furious at her son for escaping that she literally accused him of molesting the other kids. She is pure evil.

    • @meredithrose0209
      @meredithrose0209 2 месяца назад +160

      I remember that. I wish the judge would have brought that up during sentencing.

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 2 месяца назад +42

      I wonder if she told the truth now that she made it up and that little boy didn't do that.

    • @rhapsodyinblue111
      @rhapsodyinblue111 2 месяца назад +30

      So the only reporter who said anything about that was Daily Mail, which is not the most credible news source out there. No one else reported on that, so we don't know if it actually happened at all

    • @gatdemun
      @gatdemun 2 месяца назад +44

      It is on record. She said it in closed court.

    • @WhatdoesScienceandReason-vb2tj
      @WhatdoesScienceandReason-vb2tj 2 месяца назад +18

      She's not pure evil. pure evil isn't born innocent and turned harmful. To be pure evil is to be an intrinsic source of evil. I dont' care how angry she makes you. Those 2 deluded ladies aren't pure evil. Rational fact. Your emotions aren't avenues to truth. Logic and reason are.

  • @looking4things669
    @looking4things669 2 месяца назад +3821

    Ruby was treating her children badly before Jodi came along.

  • @mistybehaviours
    @mistybehaviours 2 месяца назад +307

    Ruby wasnt lead astray, she found a partner who was just like her

  • @jsmum196
    @jsmum196 2 месяца назад +265

    Her husband watched as his wife destroyed the life of their children and did nothing. He should be in prison too.

    • @user-bm7vl7rt5o
      @user-bm7vl7rt5o Месяц назад +12

      He didn't watch. He couldn't.. Ruby filed a restraining order against him that kept him from seeing or having contact of any kind with the kids.

    • @a.k.3074
      @a.k.3074 Месяц назад

      @@user-bm7vl7rt5o well but he is in the videos so long before this restrainung order he was part of the abuse! Period!!!

    • @1dilligaf
      @1dilligaf Месяц назад +7

      It’s the family courts, denying father’s access to their kids. That is a big part of the problem.

    • @janetmcneice6246
      @janetmcneice6246 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah he knew exactly what she was doing to the kids and he allowed that to happen!!!! He's as guilty as her,deserves to get sentenced the same, he is not competent to have custody of those poor kids, leopards don't change their spots

    • @ramezsaied9669
      @ramezsaied9669 26 дней назад +2

      @@janetmcneice6246 did u even read the 2 comments above you? He couldnt do anything

  • @blakeb9964
    @blakeb9964 2 месяца назад +3450

    Jodi blaming the kids is EXACTLY what she did to her niece. Shes a psychopath and should never be let out into society again.

    • @alexandertheresurrection2810
      @alexandertheresurrection2810 2 месяца назад +132

      Is she ever does get out, she should be ordered by a judge to stay at least 500ft away from kids.

    • @ericrypt
      @ericrypt 2 месяца назад +118

      total psychopath, but there's a odd feeling Jodi "man-hater" Hildebrant is gonna fare well in prison life. It looked like she and Ruby were more than business partners.

    • @raerae2555
      @raerae2555 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ericryptOh, 1000%.

    • @mariaslavinski1588
      @mariaslavinski1588 2 месяца назад +37

      ​@@ericrypt 😂😂 I know I thought they were a couple as well 😂 😂 I do think Ruby Franke is truly sorry for all of this she did trust the wrong one but as a mom you don't want your kids to suffer!!!!

    • @Stacey19962
      @Stacey19962 2 месяца назад +11

      ​@ericrypt I agree. I thought from the beginning they acted like livers.

  • @knightofsaturn
    @knightofsaturn 2 месяца назад +3196

    it's annoys me that the father Kevin is skating through like there weren't videos of him condoning the treatment of the kids. Dude is getting off scot free when he should be at least investigated as well

    • @CaseyMarie11-11
      @CaseyMarie11-11 2 месяца назад +113

      Definitely 💯

    • @catherinewinkeler8587
      @catherinewinkeler8587 2 месяца назад +189

      Kevin was complicit. He did not c his for a year. Who agrees to that? Shame on him too.

    • @katjagolden893
      @katjagolden893 2 месяца назад +109

      I agree with you. He should have fought to stay in contact with his children at the very least; he might then know how bad things were.

    • @aprilsilva5643
      @aprilsilva5643 2 месяца назад +70

      I agree. When she was arrested I felt he kept trying to claim his innocence through his attorney

    • @Vandymas
      @Vandymas 2 месяца назад +74

      Complicity counts towards guilt also. I can’t even with Kevin.

  • @amandamcfarland8554
    @amandamcfarland8554 2 месяца назад +75

    That 12 year old boy saved himself, his siblings and future children from being harmed by this woman. I hope he realizes what good has come from his act of bravery. That must have been terrifying for him.

  • @euroze
    @euroze 2 месяца назад +119

    SHE’S ONLY SORRY BECAUSE SHE GOT CAUGHT 🗣️

  • @QuintessentialUltimatum
    @QuintessentialUltimatum 2 месяца назад +1476

    *The fact that Ruby started whining and crying while talking about her husband but she didn’t even stutter while talking about her children tells me all I need to know.*

  • @llamamama2910
    @llamamama2910 2 месяца назад +888

    NO-an abuser does NOT get to say they love their victims-that is further victimization-and NO she wanted to avoid full witness trial to avoid more truth coming out.

    • @katherinekerbow8344
      @katherinekerbow8344 2 месяца назад +30

      Wow!! Thank you so much for saying that!!! She is pure evil and trying to make herself look better to the judge....plz don't EVER let her see those children unless they deem it ok.....plz

    • @evilpufferfish198
      @evilpufferfish198 2 месяца назад +24

      YES NO SHE DOESN'T LOVE THEM. Omg cant believe they let her say that.

    • @Truthfully3
      @Truthfully3 2 месяца назад +25

      Agreed!!! Her “apology” actually made me feel sick.
      It was an exercise in deflection and lies.

    • @GDitto
      @GDitto 2 месяца назад +6

      @@evilpufferfish198 well. She probably loves them in her demented way 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @watercreamspalace
      @watercreamspalace 2 месяца назад +10

      @@GDitto That’s not love.

  • @SauceySiren
    @SauceySiren 2 месяца назад +146

    That neighbors voice cracking was so heart wrenching. Hope he’s doing alright 😢

    • @WilliamOfficeSupply9832
      @WilliamOfficeSupply9832 Месяц назад +1

      That so called neighbour never answered his door and he acted a bit strange towards the little boy.

    • @AD-nu4ef
      @AD-nu4ef Месяц назад +5

      @@WilliamOfficeSupply9832 what do you mean he never answered the door? He was the one who called 911

    • @WilliamOfficeSupply9832
      @WilliamOfficeSupply9832 Месяц назад

      He never answered his door, he was speaking on a intercom.
      We have University Degrees and this is proof so called mental illness is fake. So called counselors are scams.
      Money. Evil. Humans will lock other living creatures in cages for money.

    • @moizukage
      @moizukage Месяц назад +4

      @@WilliamOfficeSupply9832he was being cautious I would be too. Once he asked the boy to sit and realized what was going on he made the right choice and called the police.

    • @MariRamirez-ejercicios
      @MariRamirez-ejercicios Месяц назад

      She it is talking about the first one, he wento the the second house and was helped there

  • @vivdoolan6846
    @vivdoolan6846 2 месяца назад +182

    Ruby : ill cry for my husband ....but not for my children whom I tortured.

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 2 месяца назад +1

      It just because all the years they were married and it makes her look bad now that it over.

    • @marilynschroeter796
      @marilynschroeter796 2 месяца назад +9

      I agree. The father is guilty for not stepping up to help his poor children. He should be investigated and NOT allowed to have his children.

    • @iankmak
      @iankmak Месяц назад

      Why would she cry for what the lawyer wrote?
      Her husband thing is to try to get him to wait for her. It's her backup plan.

    • @candicevee1
      @candicevee1 Месяц назад +1

      I think Ruby might be crying because she’s thinking her husband may hold her accountable…sh’s feeling sorry for herself. He divorced her.

  • @evilpufferfish198
    @evilpufferfish198 2 месяца назад +345

    That boy tried to runaway a few times. He's a fighter. I cant imagine the horror he must have gone through. But he pulled through. Such a brave strong child.

    • @RaeRaeOR
      @RaeRaeOR 2 месяца назад +10

      I hope all those kids are able to change their names and leave their abuser behind them.

    • @muniama1
      @muniama1 2 месяца назад +7

      Yes, I am so proud of this boy. May God Bless him always.

    • @nicolamcleod1281
      @nicolamcleod1281 2 месяца назад +6

      She should have thanked him and her oldest daughter. Did she thank the neighbour who helped the boy?

    • @mitsverdi5832
      @mitsverdi5832 Месяц назад

      A real life Oliver Twist & a Cosette from the Misérables !

  • @lakesification
    @lakesification 2 месяца назад +1114

    The thing that bothers me about everyone saying Ruby was manipulated by jody is that she had people calling out her parenting methods for being abusive long before they ever met. Ruby was up to this type of behaviour on her own.

    • @NurseKayP
      @NurseKayP 2 месяца назад +86

      Yes, she was already abusive. I believe that she was even further influenced by Jodi and she became even more abusive, but she is culpable either way. She was susceptible to manipulation because she already had strict religious beliefs and strict parenting style.

    • @Letty_critters420o65
      @Letty_critters420o65 2 месяца назад +44

      Right she's only pled guilt because there was so much evidence her sisters are just as bad with their blanket time just horrible

    • @SMetz-cw6qj
      @SMetz-cw6qj 2 месяца назад +7

      I agree? Good point!

    • @Momjeansandshame
      @Momjeansandshame 2 месяца назад

      I bet if this went to trial, her attorney would have made a motion to deny the prosecution from showing any 8 passenger footage and possibly have issues with jurors. Otherwise I cannot see any judge buying the brainwash business.

    • @louiseburton1952
      @louiseburton1952 2 месяца назад +15

      Jodi was probably an influence for a long, long while. Yes Ruby is no angel but would she have crossed actual lines all on her own?

  • @Khsjsj
    @Khsjsj 2 месяца назад +233

    She was an abuser before Jodie. She literally said her kids should sleep on the floor and didn’t care that her little six year old daughter was hungry all day because the child forgot to pack her lunchbox. A six year old?!!!

    • @czarinahgriffiths2090
      @czarinahgriffiths2090 2 месяца назад +14

      Don't forget the time she spent hours getting ready and filmed herself smiling and laughing about how long she was taking whilst one of her kids was in agony and needed to go to the emergency room, she's pure evil

    • @beckyastley5745
      @beckyastley5745 2 месяца назад +11

      wow. my son is 6 and would never remember, nor should he have to pack his own lunchbox. he's too busy learning, or playing. let kids be kids.

    • @lilymaicutiepie
      @lilymaicutiepie 21 день назад

      @@beckyastley5745 how dare a 6 year old be forgetful

  • @mickymantle3233
    @mickymantle3233 2 месяца назад +47

    Hiding the children when outsiders were around shows they were both fully aware of their brutal crimes. Psychopaths' !

  • @moonlighttarot3239
    @moonlighttarot3239 2 месяца назад +526

    Ruby can’t blame Jodi for all of it. She was starving her kids BEFORE Jodi came into the picture.

    • @grinch12342001
      @grinch12342001 2 месяца назад

      She only put her children on diet

    • @ReelHorror
      @ReelHorror 2 месяца назад +7

      Agreed. And I think the husband should be held accountable as well.

  • @AL-fl4jk
    @AL-fl4jk 2 месяца назад +1231

    Ruby didn’t have “deepest regret and sorrow” when she tortured her children to the point of open wounds

    • @millahnna
      @millahnna 2 месяца назад

      I kinda want to throw up every time that clip is shown. It's the same theatrical nonsense that led to her garbage youtube channel to begin with.

    • @kimward5746
      @kimward5746 2 месяца назад +24

      Yeah that seemed a little fake to me

    • @liandajane3207
      @liandajane3207 2 месяца назад +11

      she really has made it all about herself..

    • @Devi_Seona
      @Devi_Seona 2 месяца назад +16

      She is sorry she got caught.

    • @Fat12219
      @Fat12219 2 месяца назад +3

      And she got paid for it 😂😂 that mess up😮

  • @melissabolden4051
    @melissabolden4051 2 месяца назад +78

    Neither her or her husband should ever have any child in their custody!

  • @Nosferata138
    @Nosferata138 2 месяца назад +31

    The stranger living next door cared more about that boy in mere minutes than the women did in years! So glad the son had the courage to go for it.

  • @janinemaxwell4297
    @janinemaxwell4297 2 месяца назад +1476

    Ruby shouldn’t be allowed out of jail until at least the youngest child is over 18

    • @beccab3030
      @beccab3030 2 месяца назад +140

      I agree , ruby is only a danger to her own children . Jodi on the other hand will always be a danger to society.

    • @CatholicCarnivoreHousewife
      @CatholicCarnivoreHousewife 2 месяца назад +47

      ​@@beccab3030agreed! I wish the Judge would have ordered that once released she's not permitted to be around nor work with children or parents.

    • @joebloggs2635
      @joebloggs2635 2 месяца назад +39

      Was thinking the same, but until the age where the children were no longer able to be manipulated. Like 25-30 years of age. A 15-20 yr sentence. Hopefully, they will never see her again.

    • @ngnmech
      @ngnmech 2 месяца назад +7

      @@CatholicCarnivoreHousewife I think that will be the decision by the Pardons and Parole board not the Judge, The only role the judge has is to set a range of time to serve and if they run concurrent or consecutive, Any other requirements will be set by the board.

    • @SugarSwirl
      @SugarSwirl 2 месяца назад +11

      No she should be in jail for life

  • @medical4652
    @medical4652 2 месяца назад +1760

    Of all the people she was thanking ... why did Ruby not thank her daughter Shari, who arguably showed the most concern for her siblings?

    • @rainingopals1439
      @rainingopals1439 2 месяца назад +185

      There seems to be a theme of disregarding the children. Like she's more sorry to her family? Wth

    • @londonjoy1545
      @londonjoy1545 2 месяца назад +51

      I was waiting for a thank you to sheri

    • @Funnyandsunnydays
      @Funnyandsunnydays 2 месяца назад

      She doesn't consider her children human beings. They are her torture victims, not actual people. She's sick.

    • @veraspresser5503
      @veraspresser5503 2 месяца назад +126

      She thank those who she could manipulate later, for favors, imo

    • @beepbopboop7727
      @beepbopboop7727 2 месяца назад +133

      Because she hasn’t changed. Its all an act.

  • @shannongeorgiapeach76
    @shannongeorgiapeach76 2 месяца назад +70

    In court, Ruby doesn't take 100% accountability & it is all about her feelings, not her children's. She said, "You are a part of ME," "MY 6 little ducks," and "I cry every day. " Those kids are hurting & will suffer for yrs because of this. Imo she has no idea what she's truly done. Thank God the kids are safe now. 🙏

    • @Celestein
      @Celestein 2 месяца назад +7

      Exactly. They are not people, they are an extension of HER. They belong to HER even after she nearly killed them and traumatized for life. This woman is so dangerously selfish and manipulative it's scary. These poor kids need to be protected from her forever, she'll keep trying to hound them down.

    • @Aqualyra
      @Aqualyra Месяц назад

      I think she knows just what she's done as she's a narcissistic sadistic child abuser who feels entitled to egotistically & unfairly judge and inflict pain on her kids for kicks.

  • @gmurph6499
    @gmurph6499 2 месяца назад +28

    Her statement wasn’t an apology. It was an excuse for her poor behavior. Sad….

  • @LuckyWannaBe
    @LuckyWannaBe 2 месяца назад +913

    Hats off to the judge who didn't see through her crocodile tears!!! Those children weren't "precious" to her, they were her tools for her "fame" and "fortune" Those children will have emotional trauma for the rest of their lives. She has denied them food, water, and necessities that children need, and she vlogged about it. She's no mother, she's a monster, and the ONLY reason why she is crying now is that one child was brave enough to escape her, then she got caught, she would continue to do this if that boy didn't run away, I lived in a household like this and I sympathize for the kids, hopefully, Kevin won't have custody of them either because he's as much as an abuser and Ruby is.

    • @shaylaspiess1876
      @shaylaspiess1876 2 месяца назад +55

      You would think she was accepting an award for all the people she thanked. The last two minutes she tried to actually accept any responsibility. They both received the same sentence. The Parole board hopefully sees right through all of this. No one feels sorry for either of them.

    • @katjagolden893
      @katjagolden893 2 месяца назад +24

      I think gov’t should show Franke & Hildebrant what it’s like to go thru what they put Frank’s kids thru by making them experience themselves.

    • @thedisaster1701
      @thedisaster1701 2 месяца назад +31

      I agree 💯 this little 11 year old precious boy is a hero in my eyes continued prayers for all the victims of these evil monsters

    • @ritamariekelley4077
      @ritamariekelley4077 2 месяца назад +1

      💙

    • @heathertaylor6774
      @heathertaylor6774 2 месяца назад +2

      well said!

  • @mvrose9598
    @mvrose9598 2 месяца назад +769

    Ruby cried and sounded more upset about her marriage and losing her husband than her kids and what she did to them. I don’t buy it for a second. She’s manipulative and full of it. Using her sentencing to be sad about her marriage. Abusive people like this don’t change or have true remorse like this. I don’t believe it.

    • @carflk916
      @carflk916 2 месяца назад +3

      💯

    • @busylawbee
      @busylawbee 2 месяца назад +2

      This!

    • @SassySlater
      @SassySlater 2 месяца назад

      Kevin is the weak link, the easy access to the vulnerable kids. That’s it. She’s a manipulator.

    • @LilyfromUruguay
      @LilyfromUruguay 2 месяца назад +3

      I noticed the same thing!

    • @janeenrao9773
      @janeenrao9773 2 месяца назад +7

      She did that to secure her place with Kevin. He is spineless and she wants him to wait for her.

  • @IrisRamirez-ln9lz
    @IrisRamirez-ln9lz 2 месяца назад +18

    She asked her youngest kid should i tape your eyes..wow

  • @delsi1204
    @delsi1204 2 месяца назад +38

    I cannot believe that husband Kevin is not in jail or at least under investigation 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @wristedhip
    @wristedhip 2 месяца назад +437

    At about the 24 minute mark of this video, outside the court room, the prosecutor says he thinks the 4 year sentence for Ruby, which would be the bare minimum, is appropriate punishment. Are you kidding me? She should be in jail until all the kids are fully grown and on their own, away from both parents, perhaps in their own successful marriages with supportive partners.

    • @surlywithfabshoes
      @surlywithfabshoes 2 месяца назад +4

      How come they didn’t specify the number of years each would actually spend in prison? We already knew they pled guilty to 4 counts, the counts carry a 1-15 year sentence and that they would be spent consecutively. Why didn’t they specify?

    • @chiunc
      @chiunc 2 месяца назад +6

      @@surlywithfabshoes go back to 5:26 to 6:07. He explains it there and again further down the video

    • @nikkibee139
      @nikkibee139 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@surlywithfabshoes Because in Utah, a sentencing board determines at a later date what the exact amount of years in prison will be. So the judge says 1-15 years per count, but the sentencing board will actually set the amount of time within that 1-15 year guideline.

    • @CT-nb5lm
      @CT-nb5lm 2 месяца назад +4

      I doubt she will be anywhere near them unsupervised & shes under the public eye now..
      IMO threat neutralized... Jodi on the other hand has made many Ruby's into psycho moms.

    • @KiPisMe
      @KiPisMe 2 месяца назад +5

      I'm sick thinking that she could possibly be free in 4 years!

  • @Seaneey
    @Seaneey 2 месяца назад +1054

    The gaslighting she tried in her "full accountability" was just pathetic

    • @southerngraceglamour
      @southerngraceglamour 2 месяца назад +42

      I showed my husband both sentencing videos and he immediately said “wow, the gaslighting”. Glad others see this too.

    • @Sparklemesilly1
      @Sparklemesilly1 2 месяца назад

      👋≧◔ᴥ◔≦ 💗💗PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT AND WATCH PROTESTING AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY ON RUclips----🚫STOP LISTEN & HELP! 💀💀Take away SCIENTOLOGY's TAX EXEMPT STATUS🦹‍♂🛸👽 SCIENTOLOGY is NOT A CHURCH 💀💀SCIENTOLOGY is an EVIL CULT💀🤖👽😈🌍SUPPORT ALL THE VICTIMS of SCIENTOLOGY💖🙏

    • @sugarsore
      @sugarsore 2 месяца назад +12

      How is what she said (Ruby) gaslighting?

    • @m.jaquarius8365
      @m.jaquarius8365 2 месяца назад +37

      ​@@southerngraceglamourHow is that exactly gaslighting. When does someone acknowledging their wrong doing and admitting to it a form of gaslighting?? Alot of people throwing around the word gaslighting and narcissist in this comment section, and I'm convinced that people don't really know the true meaning of either word. Ijs🤷🏼‍♀️. I'm not directing that at you, or am I trying to attack you. I'm just curious as to how that was a form of gaslighting.

    • @offgridjack5779
      @offgridjack5779 2 месяца назад

      @@m.jaquarius8365 A good definition of "gaslighting" is the story of the cheating husband that gets caught in bed NAKED with another woman by his wife and she accuses him of cheating, he denies it and says "are you going to believe ME or your lying eyes honey?" Gaslighting 101.

  • @lyndabugg8732
    @lyndabugg8732 2 месяца назад +37

    Jodi's demeanor is frightening. She looks so detached from the reality of what is happening. She doesn't believe she is guilty of anything.

  • @MaggieLarocque
    @MaggieLarocque 2 месяца назад +37

    I think having BIRTHED those kids makes Franke WORSE. They were her kids to protect and she gave them over to a monster. SHE is a monster as well.

  • @traceyholland529
    @traceyholland529 2 месяца назад +356

    Didn't Ruby Franke use a lot of that punishment before she met Jodie? Like withholding food or a place to sleep.

    • @millahnna
      @millahnna 2 месяца назад +63

      SHe absolutely did. ANd Kevin was around for it then.

    • @93seronica
      @93seronica 2 месяца назад +39

      Yes she let her youngest daughter starve at school and refused to bring her lunch when the daughter forgot to bring it to school.

    • @Peaches.523
      @Peaches.523 2 месяца назад +21

      Yes! With husband’s approval.

    • @sethharjes9277
      @sethharjes9277 2 месяца назад +1

      They had a place to sleep, just wasn't in there room. Had to sleep in the living room

    • @Vandassar
      @Vandassar 2 месяца назад +2

      She had been torturing those kids from the moment they were born. I still want to know what the fathers sentencing will be for allowing this to happen right under his nose.

  • @omaopa6923
    @omaopa6923 2 месяца назад +428

    Jodi taken down by an 11 year old 👏👏👏

    • @raerae2555
      @raerae2555 2 месяца назад +68

      Yes!!!
      Russell...if you ever read this, you are a HERO, young man. ❤

    • @sonjatait4089
      @sonjatait4089 2 месяца назад +4

      👏👏👏👏👏

    • @Fat12219
      @Fat12219 2 месяца назад +5

      Taken down 😂 by a 12 years old 😂

  • @michelleallred8521
    @michelleallred8521 2 месяца назад +15

    I cant believe she used the word "distorted", for real?!!? And then to absolutely deflect ANY responsibility for the damage she did to HER children!!! I honestly think if she held her sons head underwater & blocked his airway, she should be charged w attempted murder

  • @ecfog7120
    @ecfog7120 2 месяца назад +22

    I'm so proud of Russell for having the courage to get help. I also appreciate the neighbour who acted instead of looking the other way bc it was "none of his business". This should never have happened to these babies, but I'm so relieved this isn't another murder trial that could have been avoided if only authorities had stepped up.

  • @NoobsyPoopsy
    @NoobsyPoopsy 2 месяца назад +162

    I grew up with an abusive narcissistic mother. They never feel sorry for what they did. That's the reason Ruby gave this horrible speech. She should have thanked Shari for being concerned about her siblings and Russel for saving his little sister and himself.

    • @carflk916
      @carflk916 2 месяца назад +10

      That’s true-we didn’t hear a single thank you for her children

    • @tonimedlen5371
      @tonimedlen5371 Месяц назад

      Yes ! But we know that will never happen

  • @mashakalinkina7207
    @mashakalinkina7207 2 месяца назад +380

    They're still confused as to why they're even in trouble. Crazy.

    • @LexieLou435
      @LexieLou435 2 месяца назад +34

      I was in jail with both last month for a jail commitment… let me tell you you that this is Ruby 100%

    • @elaine5446
      @elaine5446 2 месяца назад +23

      @@LexieLou435 You need to write a book about these two. They actually believe the drivel they are spewing.

    • @millahnna
      @millahnna 2 месяца назад

      @@LexieLou435 Dude I want to pick your brain so bad about them.

    • @reinasherman8009
      @reinasherman8009 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@LexieLou435would love for you to elaborate on this.

    • @MsGaado
      @MsGaado 2 месяца назад +5

      @@LexieLou435what do you mean? And how is ruby's character in prison?

  • @Andy_-so9yk
    @Andy_-so9yk 2 месяца назад +18

    She was starving her children before ever knowing Jodi.

  • @SuileanAirgid
    @SuileanAirgid 2 месяца назад +35

    I've heard the neighbour's police call several times and it hasn't failed to make me tear up. The horror and emotional pain that man is feeling is palpable. I hope peace and healing for everyone affected by the evils of these people.

    • @maryfrederick6934
      @maryfrederick6934 Месяц назад

      Did you notice the female paramedic who started to cry after seeing him so tortured and hungry? I was so glad the lady neighbor gave him food and something to drink. She talked to him so lovingly.

  • @damedeviant1388
    @damedeviant1388 2 месяца назад +161

    She’s not remorseful, just putting on her baby voice and blame shifting until the very end. A narcissist can’t change their stripes.

  • @elleb1326
    @elleb1326 2 месяца назад +255

    "GENUINE STATEMENT" ?! Ruby's statement was self aggrandizing, narcissistic, and the least humble "sorry" I've heard. So angry with that prosecutor commenting the minimum is all she should serve!

    • @saradapagediocletian9707
      @saradapagediocletian9707 2 месяца назад +6

      Ruby is the devil in flesh. No plea deal should've been offered.

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 2 месяца назад +15

      Shes a narcissist and knows how to play people. She fooled the prosecutor.

    • @mamabear558
      @mamabear558 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@saradapagediocletian9707I feel she is genuine and knows that she messed up.

    • @saradapagediocletian9707
      @saradapagediocletian9707 2 месяца назад +9

      @@mamabear558 messed up? Oh I pray to our good God you aren't a mum.

    • @saradapagediocletian9707
      @saradapagediocletian9707 2 месяца назад +5

      @@mamabear558 I can't even comprehend doing something like that to my boys. If I could I'd take care of myself long before the courts needed to.

  • @jennifermcgoldrick6323
    @jennifermcgoldrick6323 2 месяца назад +17

    I’d like to know how many LDS members make up the board of parole and sentencing, or whatever it’s called.

  • @ChantelleErasmus-pe9hk
    @ChantelleErasmus-pe9hk 2 месяца назад +23

    God bless that man that called 911❤️

    • @nicanonymus2491
      @nicanonymus2491 2 месяца назад +2

      I always have to skip this 911 call. It’s so hard to listen to. 😢

    • @MG-iu2nn
      @MG-iu2nn 2 месяца назад

      Next Michael Jackson!

  • @ce1581
    @ce1581 2 месяца назад +114

    Her youtube followers were calling her out on her disastrous parenting before she started working with Hildebrandt and long before law enforcement was forced to stop her 😡

    • @MG-iu2nn
      @MG-iu2nn 2 месяца назад

      FBI bots....

    • @Velvettyy_
      @Velvettyy_ 2 месяца назад +4

      even Shari has phoned the police multiple times to try and help her siblings.

  • @Mandcfrey
    @Mandcfrey 2 месяца назад +129

    I wonder how many other families suffered from Jodi’s ‘counseling’.

    • @fuchsialocks592
      @fuchsialocks592 2 месяца назад +8

      Word is that there are hundreds of families she was hired to counsel. Hopefully they speak up to tell their stories at some point.

    • @bernedettekuteyi3843
      @bernedettekuteyi3843 2 месяца назад +10

      From what I read, she destroyed many homes, turning the women against their husbands.

    • @delphoeneevenhuis5199
      @delphoeneevenhuis5199 2 месяца назад +4

      I hope those families are able to sue! She made millions from her victims!

    • @bonnylouwho76
      @bonnylouwho76 2 месяца назад

      @@delphoeneevenhuis5199 There was a male counselor years ago, that was divorced and caused MANY women to turn against their actually decent husbands ( I had the other kind, my exes and stayed too long.) It happened to my former next door neighbors daughter and it caused the Mom to have a total emotional break down, I don't know if she ever recovered from it.

    • @katiewray2525
      @katiewray2525 2 месяца назад +1

      Thousands

  • @MichelleSPodcast
    @MichelleSPodcast 2 месяца назад +10

    She sounds like she's accepting award, thanking people. And she only got a minimum of four years?! I hope the freaking board of pardon and parole sees what this woman truly is

  • @user-cu4kd9jl7r
    @user-cu4kd9jl7r 2 месяца назад +13

    I can’t believe she was allowed to say everything she said. The audacity is shocking

  • @sandraspengler4740
    @sandraspengler4740 2 месяца назад +79

    She denied her children ,beds, food and comfort long before she met Jodi

  • @SimoneSantos-qh1rw
    @SimoneSantos-qh1rw 2 месяца назад +188

    As someone who had been raised around narcissist mormons and helped my mother think that it was okay to be a narcissistic mom, I hope this become a lesson for the people in this religion. You’re not better than anyone else!!!!

    • @nitarose44
      @nitarose44 2 месяца назад +3

      👍👍👍👍

    • @DG-hw8it
      @DG-hw8it 2 месяца назад

      Without culture, humans are nothing more than animals, though! Some are being made fun of as average Joe!

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 2 месяца назад +8

      It goes to show children aren't their priority. 4 years is a shame.

    • @starbright1256
      @starbright1256 2 месяца назад +11

      Not just in the church. It is everywhere. That kind of behavior

    • @irishhoopers6899
      @irishhoopers6899 2 месяца назад +8

      Lori Daybell. That's the real face of LDS

  • @teridesantiago5748
    @teridesantiago5748 2 месяца назад +11

    The reporter asking "is she delusional?" 🤣😂🖤

  • @veronicatrang1246
    @veronicatrang1246 2 месяца назад +13

    Who else rolled their eyes when Jodi said “I sincerely Loved these children”…..🙄😒??

  • @CLMaxey67
    @CLMaxey67 2 месяца назад +357

    Ruby is the MOTHER - she had more responsibility.

    • @melodyblanchard2017
      @melodyblanchard2017 2 месяца назад +15

      i agree

    • @SallyMars
      @SallyMars 2 месяца назад +33

      Along with Kevin who also needs charged!

    • @Thedarkestduchess
      @Thedarkestduchess 2 месяца назад +7

      Agreed!

    • @93seronica
      @93seronica 2 месяца назад +25

      I think Kevin needs to be charged too, he should’ve known something bad was happening to those kids.

    • @melissagoode151
      @melissagoode151 2 месяца назад +7

      Morally. But not legally. Plus jodi is a mental health "professional" so she both legally and morally has a responsibility to protect children

  • @helenussery4756
    @helenussery4756 2 месяца назад +82

    She acted this way long before she met Jodi. This woman should never be allowed access to her children 🧒

  • @cathymurray6492
    @cathymurray6492 2 месяца назад +7

    Ruby is a MONSTER. She doesn't have maternal instincts. That speech wasn't from her heart. It was from her attorney.
    God Bless those children

  • @NS.Katz5541
    @NS.Katz5541 2 месяца назад +10

    The Parents are the Monsters who let a sociopath in their life to help them harm their kids!

  • @Jonmsi
    @Jonmsi 2 месяца назад +41

    It's sad to see that Ruby is treated like a "victim" of Jodi... Ruby was abusive and horrible to her children loooong before Jodi came into her life. Both of them should be in prison at least 30 years...to think that they could be free in three years or so is disgusting...

  • @jq2147
    @jq2147 2 месяца назад +89

    The thought of someone taping the wrists and ankles of a 12 year old and starving them is shocking enough. But
    for that someone to be the child's own mother is absolutely incomprehensible. I don't think the parole board will be kind to either of these two women.

    • @gemmag.2988
      @gemmag.2988 2 месяца назад +5

      I hope not.

    • @jnicole2440
      @jnicole2440 2 месяца назад +8

      If they're Mormon they might

    • @DG-hw8it
      @DG-hw8it 2 месяца назад

      Good morning, it's called parenting!

    • @SmurfPerfect
      @SmurfPerfect 2 месяца назад +1

      Ruby is a beautiful Christian biologist women of God She will be free soon I pray

    • @bekka696
      @bekka696 2 месяца назад +4

      I'm getting Shanda Vander Ark vibes. And we know what happened to her. I really hope they throw the book at them.

  • @telbel4979
    @telbel4979 2 месяца назад +11

    I take accountability for blaming Jodi for everything!

  • @nicanonymus2491
    @nicanonymus2491 2 месяца назад +13

    I hope there are more investigations into Kevin, every employee of Connexions and the Bishop who recommended Jodie.

  • @peanuts1173
    @peanuts1173 2 месяца назад +49

    The sentence isn't long enough. They both have ruined the lives of those children. They should never ever see the light of day. It's disgusting.

    • @islesofshoals3551
      @islesofshoals3551 2 месяца назад +1

      The sentence hasn't been handed down yet

    • @aeroangie
      @aeroangie Месяц назад +1

      I hope they never get out

  • @nycmermaid3158
    @nycmermaid3158 2 месяца назад +467

    Kevin was ABSOLUTELY complicit in and responsible for the abusive treatment of his children, as seen for years in their you tube channel.
    He is NOT innocent!!!
    If he was not involved in the final year prior to the arrest of Ruby and Jodi, he was absolutely involved in every DOCUMENTED instance prior and assuredly many that the audience never saw.
    There are many of us that are revolted at the idea being promulgated that Kevin just needs his kids back under his “fatherly care “ for them to heal. He was also an abusive parent. (Although it was perhaps not as extreme.)
    Kevin needs to be examined very closely before any child should EVER be released to his custody.
    Further the LDS church and their representatives, who have recommended & endorsed Jodi as an accepted therapist for LDS church members, need to take accountability too!!!

    • @LuchSveta1
      @LuchSveta1 2 месяца назад +13

      Agree

    • @bloom4807
      @bloom4807 2 месяца назад +16

      Yup, I don’t understand why he got off.

    • @MintakaSaiph
      @MintakaSaiph 2 месяца назад +21

      I hope that they’re building a case against him. One of the reasons why I think they’re with DCFS and not with him. If he didn’t actively participate or initiate; he turned a blind eye to pacify his wife or didn’t believe his kids.

    • @eszterrosta5523
      @eszterrosta5523 2 месяца назад +5

      The most correct and articulate take I have seen yet.

    • @SharonWineberg-ut6pr
      @SharonWineberg-ut6pr 2 месяца назад +3

      100% agree

  • @nourahhussien4646
    @nourahhussien4646 2 месяца назад +7

    God Bless the neighbor who called the police…imagine the people that would have sent him back :(

  • @emherr9
    @emherr9 2 месяца назад +4

    Such incongruent communication/nonverbal leakage when Jodi’s attorney says she has expressed remorse… yet shakes his head “no.”

  • @karenwhinesmore9347
    @karenwhinesmore9347 2 месяца назад +82

    I have got to say Adam Steed was the highlight of that hearing. I'm so glad that he got his opportunity to call out Jodie Hildebrandt to the world. And expose just how horrible & evil of a person she is.

    • @BethRitterGuth
      @BethRitterGuth 2 месяца назад +4

      I image that he felt like a million bucks to call out this woman who destroyed his life (and the lives of man husbands like him).

  • @Descan26
    @Descan26 2 месяца назад +32

    9:47 gas lighting and bull shitting 101 commences here. Still blaming others for the choices she made.

  • @ashsmee
    @ashsmee 2 месяца назад +9

    If that brave boy didn’t runaway I don’t think he would have made it very much longer. This is so much like the Daybell case.

  • @tabularasa9104
    @tabularasa9104 2 месяца назад +11

    We CHOOSE FREELY to follow or do right or wrong. Do not blame another person for your own free choices.

    • @KD-vc5mf
      @KD-vc5mf Месяц назад

      It's not that easy, unfortunately

  • @jenduhon7263
    @jenduhon7263 2 месяца назад +268

    Kevin is just as guilty as Ruby. There were concerns about the care of the kids while “8 Passengers” was being filmed, and he was right there, fully aware of what was going on.

    • @Fat12219
      @Fat12219 2 месяца назад +8

      Kevin is just as guilty as Ruby !!!!! Big time now, he is really quiet 🤫

    • @Fat12219
      @Fat12219 2 месяца назад +1

      He is really quiet 🤫 😒 😐

    • @irishhoopers6899
      @irishhoopers6899 2 месяца назад +8

      And he very recently tried to get his daughter arrested for taking her passport. He is as bad as Ruby. He laughed with Ruby about sending his son to that camp and taking his bed away

    • @zombiechicken7114
      @zombiechicken7114 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly. He should also be in prison.

  • @moonchild7033
    @moonchild7033 2 месяца назад +42

    Ruby sounds like she's doing an acceptance speech for the Oscars! Insincere and unbelievable. Jodi Hillebrand didn't even apologise for her behaviour and this a lot about who she really is.

  • @estefaniamolina4563
    @estefaniamolina4563 2 месяца назад +7

    Interesting how she blamed everything around her. She needs urgent mental health.

  • @bloodthirstyvampire8
    @bloodthirstyvampire8 2 месяца назад +7

    "Ruby Frankie has shown a great deal of remorse.... By accepting a plea deal"
    What?? She's literally smiling as she walks into the room. She would have killed them if she hadn't been caught...

  • @stormthrush37
    @stormthrush37 2 месяца назад +56

    Monsters. 4 years minimum is nowhere near enough. If they're willing to do anything for the kids as they claim make them go through the conditions they put the kids through for the full length of their sentences. "Willing to serve prison sentences." What a gaslighting laugh. The prosecutor said at the end it was one of the most obvious cases they'd ever seen.

    • @Adykayful
      @Adykayful 2 месяца назад +1

      I think he may of meant it would be 4 years for each count, which are served one after the other, which would make 16 years total.

    • @stormthrush37
      @stormthrush37 Месяц назад

      @@Adykayful No, I'm sure, the reported sentence was a range of 4-30 years. 4 counts of crimes each carrying a sentence of 1-15 years with each sentence to be served consecutively, the exact number to be determined by a parole board, and Utah caps sentences at 30 years.

  • @paulatavares5220
    @paulatavares5220 2 месяца назад +35

    Ruby's excuses and crocodile tears were ridiculous!! Terrible mum , terrible friend that did not hesitate to throw her accomplice under the bus! Jodi should loose her licence because obviously she is not qualified to threat anyone!

  • @haemocyte2224
    @haemocyte2224 2 месяца назад +6

    There is something sickening about Ruby trying to teach empathy to her daughter with threats.

  • @AnneAndersonFoxiepaws
    @AnneAndersonFoxiepaws 2 месяца назад +13

    Genuine! Come on, the woman proved herself to be a sadist long before Hildebrand. And Kevin shouldnt be getting off Scott free either!

  • @jenninscho1980
    @jenninscho1980 2 месяца назад +24

    The attorney shook his head "no" when saying that Jodi showed remorse.

  • @stephanielombardozzi2971
    @stephanielombardozzi2971 2 месяца назад +31

    Ruby should serve the remainder of time that her children are underage minors. Her youngest is ten; That’s at least 8 years at a minimum. She took their early childhood, she should loose the remainder of their late childhood.

  • @judyrosey
    @judyrosey 2 месяца назад +8

    She is blaming EVERYONE else but herself.

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ 2 месяца назад +7

    The husband is absolutely complicit in this situation. It's absurd he's going to have access to the children during this when he condoned the original intent of the channel.

  • @mlsa9520
    @mlsa9520 2 месяца назад +19

    No justice at all for these kids!! Just awful. Both these evil witches deserve more time. This "mom" acts like the victim. No accountability at all.

  • @caroles5258
    @caroles5258 2 месяца назад +13

    So Ruby seeing her children in pain and begging her didn't move her but the cops slapping cuffs on her did? The same cops she said she distrusted? Being a manipulator she is saying exactly what everyone wants to hear especially the Judge. Don't forget she was acting on social media for years.

  • @usernameisjonah
    @usernameisjonah 2 месяца назад +5

    Thank you to the good neighbor for looking out for the kids.

  • @barbarapetoskey8921
    @barbarapetoskey8921 2 месяца назад +6

    Easy to be emotional when you’re on your way to prison😅

  • @annevaneeden
    @annevaneeden 2 месяца назад +22

    Too much thanking, not enough regret and apologies

  • @kerryharrison3806
    @kerryharrison3806 2 месяца назад +15

    Ruby came into court with a face full of makeup and her hair artfully tousled. She’s still playing to the audience, she has no remorse for what she did to her children, she’s just really sorry she got caught. She’s the mother that allowed this to happen to her own children, She’s the real psychopath here.

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 2 месяца назад +2

      She was smiling and acting happy until she got all the way in the courtroom. Then, she was ready to fool the courtroom and judge. It looked like a actress walking onto the set.

    • @dianeratti5644
      @dianeratti5644 2 месяца назад

      I wonder if she's getting special treatment in prison she shouldn't look that good this is such BS !!!!!!!

  • @hippychick0709
    @hippychick0709 2 месяца назад +11

    Still don't understand why the father doesnt face charges. He was clearly a willing participant.

  • @mama.ashley
    @mama.ashley 2 месяца назад +7

    I can’t wait to hear Jodi’s phone calls!! What a monster.

  • @carmendoyle9786
    @carmendoyle9786 2 месяца назад +14

    Her husband was no better after leaving them for year half ! And not checking up on them or they would got set free sooner ! ! He should pay as well for a banding his own kids

  • @tinacubitt8445
    @tinacubitt8445 2 месяца назад +12

    Ruby was awful to those kids long before Jodi ever showed up. I found Ruby’s statement to be just another attempt at manipulation.

  • @Miabear26
    @Miabear26 2 месяца назад +6

    I hate how she's trying to make herself look like a victim 😒

  • @kellmac
    @kellmac 2 месяца назад +6

    No one could've ever convinced me to hurt my son. It's either in you, or it isn't.

  • @stevenmcgovern2121
    @stevenmcgovern2121 2 месяца назад +56

    Her apology is a tried and true way mormons gain sympathy, trust and ultimately, the ability to manipulate others. It is a tactic most outsiders fall for and is difficult to portray by the victim as being gaslit, because it is so convincing.

    • @catherineromero1862
      @catherineromero1862 2 месяца назад

      You mean the fake martyr routine. Oh I’ve seen the error of my Waze and now I’m going to use this to be an even more pure Mormon. I will use my Mormonism to cure me of this terrible tragedy that I perpetrated why my mind was being deluded, but I have now seen the light. that was pretty freaking annoying. I agree.

    • @nikkibee139
      @nikkibee139 2 месяца назад +5

      Yup, all pomp and circumstance and no actual substance. A very "If you pretend it is so, it is so" outlook to navigating life.

  • @petergriffiinbirdistheword
    @petergriffiinbirdistheword 2 месяца назад +7

    I see them claiming that she is a victim because of Jody and isolation but if she did not know her behavior was wrong then why did she panic when her son ran for help? 🗿 That's like pleading insanity after trying to hide the body.

  • @nitarose44
    @nitarose44 2 месяца назад +20

    Shame on Utah! And shame on that judge and attorney for not recusing themsleves! They are under the mormon church bishop just like Jodi and Ruby. Utah might as well have held a welcome sign up to child abusers with this garbage sentencing. This is not justic for those poor children. Ruby treated those kids as subhuman long before nasty Jodi came along. Kevin needs to be held accountable. Everyone involed including Utah, the mormon church, these two sociopaths, and Kevin are massive sludge marks on humanity.

  • @miam1074
    @miam1074 2 месяца назад +10

    The mother’s culpability is higher! It shows that her natural instincts as a protector are compromised. Also, the mother was doing all this to her children long before the therapist appeared on the scene.
    The mother is higly manipulative

  • @zahrahunt2492
    @zahrahunt2492 2 месяца назад +15

    God bless you, Adam. You deserve justice from that crazy lady. Everyone should hear Adams story.
    May God bless the children

  • @Telebision
    @Telebision 2 месяца назад +4

    That fact that she said to her daughter “I’m so glad your body hurts” proves that this woman wasn’t meant to be a mom and two she isn’t mentally well

  • @vickiegreen5107
    @vickiegreen5107 2 месяца назад +7

    Best question jodis attorney had was .... is jodi delusional 😂