Ugh, Louise Wise is the same adoption agency that deliberately separated twins and triplets so they could "study" their different upbringings. The documentary Three Identical Strangers is worth watching.
I had two friends who were adopted in the same manor, forcing the mother’s to give them up. I also had one friend in the early 70’s who’s family forced her to a home for unwed mothers. They tried to force her to give up her child but she refused.
David was loved by four parents...and didn't know until late in life. Thank you for sharing this beautiful story. The Lord brought David and his birth Mother together.
God Bless the memory of David Rosenberg and may it always bring joy to his Family and Friends. I'm so thankful he found his family before he died. Such a sweet, sad story. (I was pregnant in the 60's and an unmarried teenager. My Mother turned her back on me, fortunately my Father did not and the Father of my son and I were married 7 months before his birth. I'm so happy I kept him, wasn't forced to give him up.)
That’s story is so sad. He was denied years of knowing his family that actually wanted to keep him. I am glad he had a loving and kind and adoring adoptive family. Wish he could have had more time with his biological family.
👍Wow, he looked so much like his adoptive parents. I’m so happy his adoptive parents adored him and treated him well. I’m also happy he was able to find his birth family, so many people never get that opportunity. 😭
I am a victim of a closed adoption in California. I was adopted at 11 under not entirely legal circumstances. I should have the right to my own birth certificate.
My mother and her sister were both adopted. My grandparents were wonderful people. My mom died suddenly in 2002. I know she had questions about her birth parents. I did a DNA test myself last year in hopes of finding someone from her birth family. I have been in contact with someone who the Ancestry DNA shows is my third cousin. She told me her father was adopted as well, and we both have been trying to piece the puzzle together.
You should check out the book 'It Didn't Start with You' by Mark Wolynn. It talks about generational trauma and maternal separation is the most damaging trauma of them all. He has a website. There are many free search angels out there who have become genealogy experts. Check out Search Squad on FB or reach out to Priscilla Stone Sharp - Search Angel. You should never pay for a search angel!!! We wish you the best of luck.
@@savingoursisters-sosincorp6120 I have a friend who had her baby taken away when she gave birth as a teenager. She finally found her daughter several years ago. It has been an up and down relationship. Herself, her daughter and now her granddaughter all have had emotionally and mentally difficult lives. It is just heartbreaking to see what these kinds of actions cause in the lives of these people!!
Incredibly sad, but glad he met his birth mother and siblings. To think the generations of damage that was done with these policies and social norms... what are we doing today that will negatively impact the future?
Adoption is ALWAYS based on loss first. Society needs to start recognizing that separating families instead of supporting them is the wrong answer. No one wants a child to suffer in an abusive or neglectful homes - but those who are 'choosing' adoption today are doing so based on withheld resources, trauma education and full disclosure of information. The adoption professionals collect large sums of money and the natural family is left in ruin. Come check out SOS. We have proven that infant adoption is unnecessary. Only 7 mothers over the last 10 years after receiving all the information, support and resources chose adoption. 2 tried to revoke and get their babies back - one couldn't make it to a fax machine in time (because verbally revoking isn't enough!) and the other one had no revocation period. Unless unbiased full disclosure, education & support happens by an OBJECTIVE and NON-PROFITING third party (such as SOS) on everything adoption, the mother/family is only making this 'choice' out of sheer desperation. We know - we see it every day.
My great aunt became pregnant and unwed. The man would not marry her and ran off during the 1940s. She was my grandmother's sister. My grandmother stated my grandfather's brother would marry her. He had been in an accident and had a glass eye. Her sister was very beautiful and he was happy to marry her. He raised her daughter as his own. If he hadn't married her she would have had a terrible life.
RIP David Rosenberg. As an adoptee, this story hit me kind of hard. I wish I had known you. I also have developed a great relationship with my biological mother, and found uncanny similarities. Everyone who knew you, seemed to love you, not to mention really liked you, so your life was a real blessing.
Adoption is ALWAYS based on loss first. Society needs to start recognizing that separating families instead of supporting them is the wrong answer. No one wants a child to suffer in an abusive or neglectful homes - but those who are 'choosing' (ahem) adoption today are doing so based on withheld resources, trauma education and information.
I was adopted in 1966. My sister was adopted in 1963 (different birth mother). When my sister was adopted, the agency said she was German heritage. No, it wasn't until about 5 years ago that my sister found out she is 1/2 Native American (from the Turtle Mountains area of northern North Dakota) and 1/2 Caucasian. Her entire life had been a lie. I don't dare look for my birth Mom, as I am afraid of what I will find out--positive or negative. Adopted kids never feel as if they are part of the adoptive family, and always wonder about their birth family.
YES! Especially with all adoption entities touting 'open adoptions' now. We living it know that open adoptions are rarely kept open, and the adoptee nor natural families have any say. All power shifts to the adoptive parents - yet open adoption is dangled in front of mothers today in order for them to sign consent forms. From 'saint' to 'sinner' with the stroke of a pen. Condemned for even considering giving their baby 'the better life'. If it's such a loving and better thing - why keep it a secret - because it is not natural - oh and it's profitable to help families stay together.
Coming out of the "children are to be seen and not heard " generation, parents had way too much power over their children. Not all parents had good intentions then, just as today.
If I wanted to see my adoption records from my birth state I can’t even though this story says I can. That’s great for everyone who can to get medical information.
I am an adoptee and found my bio father’s family by matching on Ancestry. Pettioned the court in one state for my birth certificate, and another for records and nothing could be “found” in either. No one should be denied knowing who they are or where they come from or what happened to their child. Ancestry is your best bet.
Just the other day a friend & I were discussing the secrets of adoptions. This was an Eye opener, young woman being threatened with Juvie Hall. Always thought it was an act of love giving up a child willingly. We really are barbaric in handling of human beings in this country. Would be interesting to know how other countries handled their adoptions? Sad that the time was short in getting to meet, however Who wouldn’t would take the time regardless.
Gracie - you know how they do it today? When we help a mother revoke her consent (when she can and has a revocation period) someone ALWAYS calls child protective services! EVERY. SINGLE. TIME! They use CPS/DCFS today as a weapon. What is happening today is that many adoption entities (agencies, attorneys and adoption facilitators) are becoming licensed in foster placements. So, this way the revenue keeps coming in. Newborn babies today are hard to come by and they have to keep the $$ coming in somehow. So, when we help a mom parent - they call CPS and conveniently say 'we have a placement all ready to go' because they are prospective adoptive parents who they have coercively 'matched' with the mother before hand. Mothers do NOT understand that once they tangle with anyone involved in separating them from their infant - they will end up 99.9% of the time separated from their infant. The deck is stacked against natural families and they are condemned for even considering this 'loving act' as Jane so deceptively puts it. We must start supporting families and stop separating them. The secrets of adoption are still being kept. There are many who have been promised open adoptions (another persuasive coercion tactic) only to have them slammed shut once the ink is on the consent forms - and the mother has no recourse at all. She goes from 'saint' to 'sinner' with the stroke of a pen. We need to start regulating this indu$try and the billions of dollars it rakes in each year in the US alone.
this is a very upsetting piece as I find the whole adoption thing to be a disgrace. nobody has the moral right to withhold the identity of an individual from that individual.
Amen! Please come and consider supporting our family preservation work at SOS! We would love to have you - this practice is still done today - it is done a little differently we call is 'persuasive coercion'. Today lying by omission, withholding information, matching expectant mothers in crisis with prospective adoptive parents, and paying 'expenses' to expectant mothers in crisis which creates obligation, and telling the mom about their 'failed adoption' stories is all what we call persuasive coercion.
@@savingoursisters-sosincorp6120 consider it done. I was recently viewing a map of Northeast USA [new england states] to see what states allow info to adoptees.. I noted that my state, MA, does not. I hope to learn more about how those states went about making the change. I could probably get it on the statewide ballot with enough signatures. As the years pass one begins to think about "legacy" and I ask what mark [s] I wish to leave....this would be at the top of the list.
Even today - resources are NOT provided to Mothers in crisis. Adoption trauma via maternal separation is not discussed with families facing this decision. We at SOS prevent unnecessary adoptions by providing education, resources and support to expectant families. Adoption is very much an UNREGULATED INDU$TRY - A BILLION $ BUSINESS still today. We have the documented over the last the last 10 years to back up this statement. Come check us out.
I was lucky to be born in Kansas and had access to my original birth certificate when I turned 21. It should be this way everywhere. To cut people off from their own history and life is criminal. No excuse will change that.
I agree completely. Once you become of age the child should have access to thier original birth certificate if they wish to see it. What the state did cut David's life short and millions of others that if they had had access to vital health information could still be alive right now.
I worked in Pixley with “baby Susan”. She opened adoption file and after 10 years hadn’t been contacted by birth mother. It’s now been 22 years and I wish to know if you ever found your bio mom. If you follow these cases and read this please tell me if you found her.
I did my ancestry dna 2 years ago and found out I had a sister that I didn’t know about. My father had an affair and the child was put up for adoption. It came as a Hugh shock and took some adjustment to work through the new reality.
I was adopted, my life was amazing. My husband was adopted. My research in graduate school was on adoption. So let me be clear to people who misunderstand: When we look for the information about our birth, we’re not looking for families and we’re not looking for parents. We have wonderful families and wonderful parents, thank you very much. We are trying to find the answer to the mystery of our lives, a mystery other people don’t have - where they came from. It may not be a pretty picture, but we have a right to know. It is not always a happy ending, but it is a conclusion and that’s important. And I will say to this Glaser woman, I was not adopted because it was a thing to have children. My parents dearly loved me and wanted me. Start making adoption into something ugly, it is something wonderful. Of course you are profiting from this so there’s that.
Please don't speak for all adoptees. I am truly happy for you and anyone else who had a wonderful adoptive family and upbringing. Some of us weren't as fortunate. Some of us did go looking for a parent. Some of us, far too few sadly, actually found that parent, and went on to have a healing relationship for both adoptee and biological mother. I was lucky to be in this catagory.
Each person, has their story to tell! Good or bad, they need the information for medical records or so they will not date a relative! It's good that you and your husband's life was great! Everyone doesn't have that story!
The lies, deception, and horror of adoption continue to this day. My own adoption was illegal in 1991. My mother, who loved and wanted me, was coerced into an adoption plan and then threatened with financial retribution if she didn't give me up. I was purchased by monsters who abused me my whole life. I became an addict and attempted suicide in my late teens and early 20s. The trauma of the separation from my mother affects me to this day, every day. Thank goodness I have cut ties with my abusers, gotten sober, and reunited with my family as it should always have been. In the words of Anna Freud: "The horrors of war, pale beside the loss of a mother."
I had a baby in 1970 that I placed for adoption. I was barely 16 and the pregnancy was the result of a date rape. For the most part, at that time adoption was still very much a closed system. I wasn’t even allowed to see my baby, let alone hold her. I’m glad the process has become more open. I think it’s better for all concerned.
I think when I turn 18 if I was adopted I have the right to know who my parents were and then possibly have a contact number to contact them if my birth parents wanted that information
Yes! Birth records need to be made public, my biological father was adopted at birth and one things that bothers me is not knowing any medical history form his birth family.
I am a foreign adopted baby from Athens, Greece in 1955 to a couple Overton and Norma Zinn of Ogden, Utah. I know nothing of my birth parents. I was in an infant asylum in Athens.
Unadulterated, factual truth is the best option. Not someone's personal truth per se, or a manufactured truth based on or influenced by convenience, secrecy, shame, or money, or emotionality, or biased laws, or religious beliefs, or race, or coercion, or the historical/outdated morals of the past, or definitions of family, or myths , dreams & fantasy, etc. etc. With their unadulterated, factual, unfalsified, not-redacted original birth documents all adults are rightfully and equally free to create and navigate their relationships accordingly. Good-bad, loving-not loving, a-families/parents, b-families/parents, adopted, not adopted all becomes equal - everyone should have the same right to personal information so they can choose and navigate for themselves according. The same laws should apply to all, adopted or not. Laws and the adoption industry have a long way to go.
Yours is the absolutely best comment I have ever read regarding adoption. As an adoptee who was fortunate enough to find my birth mother when I was 19 in 1995, I live in a state wherein I still cannot hold or have access to my original documents. Maddening to think that she and I could walk in together, hand in hand, DNA, and 25+ years of relationship backing up our claims........and yet would be told, no, you cannot have your own birth documents.
Freaky story. Formerly married friends of mine had been like David's birth parents, having a child in their mid-teens and being forced to give up the child for adoption in a distant city. They had moved to and lived our community for some seventeen years. Unfortunately the wife was never able to conceive after the only child they would have. In their 40's "Shelia" told her husband she wanted a divorce and for him to father a child. After several years of separation he married a person his ex-wife set him up with and sure enough, fathered a child. That same year, only a 1/4 mile from where Shelia lived an adopted boy discovered "Shelia" and "Lloyd" were his birth parents and had been living that close for the past seventeen years of his life. Unbelievable, freaking unbelievable. Also how weirdly sad for the birth parents...
What you described that 'Shelia' experienced is called 'secondary infertility' and 40% of mothers who lose a child to adoption suffer from it. It is unexplained, but sadly for those who are living the loss know exactly what it is - it is lifelong trauma and affects us and our lost children forever. We at SOS are these women, we are the adopted, we are the adoptive and foster parents living adoption trauma and see that family preservation whenever possible is the right thing to do. No one wants a child to suffer in an abusive or neglectful home - those are not the cases we are talking about - and those are not the ones who are considering giving their children 'the better life'. We help families by providing full disclosure of everything adoption for free. No one is paid. We are an all volunteer nationwide network started by 2 mothers who unnecessarily lost their children to the indu$try. We have helped over 1200 families stay in tact and find the education and resources they needed to make an informed decision. Only 7 mothers in the last 10 years have truly chosen adoption - and 2 wanted their children back - because no one can fully describe the devastation to your heart and soul and entire being of living without your infant. We would love your support of family preservation thru SOS. Send 'Shelia' our way - I'm sure it would be salve to her broken heart.
Having lived at this time in history, I really challenge the authors assertion that people adopted to look patriotic? Nonsense. The baby boomer generation was enormous and not everyone can conceive. So they adopted. There were no advanced fertility treatments , in vitro or other options to try. I had lots of friends over the years who were adopted, they were and are still very loved and cherished. Shame on you for even suggesting otherwise.
They did say people who couldn't conceive adopted to be part of the post war family oriented community. There was a huge patriotic lean to everything after the war. Mentioned elsewhere was that there was a conservative vision. Pre-war was shotgun marriages and post war a baby after six months of marriage a scandal.
Consider doing DNA - Ancestry. Then look up a free search angel. Priscilla Stone Sharp - Search Angel is one. You should never pay for a search angel. There are many like you. We wish you the best Mark.
I would like a new law. If you adopt poc then you must also teach them their language of origin. Some people who adopt do the cheap move...... oh asian baby? of korean or vietnamese... oh just send them to karate class. They try to pc on everything except when it comes to their adopted kid. sad really.
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May the memory of David Rosenberg be a blessing to all who knew and loved him.
Thank you for expessing such a beautiful sentiment.
That was so sweet. Thank you for saying that.
Zichrono lvracha.
I'm so glad they all got to meet before David died. Heartwrenching story.
Bittersweet story. David had loving parents on each side!
That’s how it usually is with adoption.... it’s not always bad people having kids and giving them up.
So wonderful the reconnection was made before David's passing.
Too bad he never met his biological father though!
Thank you for shedding light on my story. I was an unwed mother in 1969. My baby was taken from me unwillingly. It's devastating. 💔
I'm so sorry for your broken heart.
We are so sorry this happened to you and your sweet baby. 💔 We would love to have you join us at SOS to preserve families whenever possible!
@@savingoursisters-sosincorp6120 send me a link. I will check it out. Thank you.
That is so horrible what happened to you. This is a bad country what they do to girls. It is a baby market.
@@victoriahaas9364 it was a baby market. They took our babies and sold then. It's a business. I was collateral damage.
I can’t imagine what she went right through. Kudos to her for remaining strong and never giving up. ❤️
Thank you for telling David's story.
Ugh, Louise Wise is the same adoption agency that deliberately separated twins and triplets so they could "study" their different upbringings. The documentary Three Identical Strangers is worth watching.
Yes, "Three Identical Strangers", is worth watching. Heavy tales need to be told.
it rang a bell when I heard the name... wonder what else they did
Wasn't it a Jewish agency?
I saw that movie and was very very interesting. A must see
That documentary is heartbreaking for those triplets and seeing their pain. I highly recommend seeing it!
I had two friends who were adopted in the same manor, forcing the mother’s to give them up. I also had one friend in the early 70’s who’s family forced her to a home for unwed mothers. They tried to force her to give up her child but she refused.
I was forced into a home. They took my baby. I didn't know I could refuse. Actually I couldn't refuse. My parents were in charge.
David was loved by four parents...and didn't know until late in life.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful story.
The Lord brought David and his birth Mother together.
God Bless the memory of David Rosenberg and may it always bring joy to his Family and Friends. I'm so thankful he found his family before he died. Such a sweet, sad story.
(I was pregnant in the 60's and an unmarried teenager. My Mother turned her back on me, fortunately my Father did not and the Father of my son and I were married 7 months before his birth. I'm so happy I kept him, wasn't forced to give him up.)
Well,I didn’t want to cry 😢 this early in the morning, but here I am😔. So glad David got to meet his birth mom but so bittersweet...🙏👍😔
Ditto- on every word!
That’s story is so sad. He was denied years of knowing his family that actually wanted to keep him. I am glad he had a loving and kind and adoring adoptive family. Wish he could have had more time with his biological family.
What an amazing story! David, was always loved by two families. Such a sad and heart breaking story; that had to be told!
So sad, but glad he at least was given the blessing of knowing an answer to all his questions before death..
Wow I am so glad they found each other before he passed. But she lost her son for the 2nd time. R,I.P David
Tough one. May his memory be a blessing.❤️
👍Wow, he looked so much like his adoptive parents. I’m so happy his adoptive parents adored him and treated him well. I’m also happy he was able to find his birth family, so many people never get that opportunity. 😭
I am a victim of a closed adoption in California. I was adopted at 11 under not entirely legal circumstances. I should have the right to my own birth certificate.
My mother and her sister were both adopted. My grandparents were wonderful people. My mom died suddenly in 2002. I know she had questions about her birth parents. I did a DNA test myself last year in hopes of finding someone from her birth family. I have been in contact with someone who the Ancestry DNA shows is my third cousin. She told me her father was adopted as well, and we both have been trying to piece the puzzle together.
I’m glad you found someone interested in unraveling the knot. Good luck to you.
You should check out the book 'It Didn't Start with You' by Mark Wolynn. It talks about generational trauma and maternal separation is the most damaging trauma of them all. He has a website. There are many free search angels out there who have become genealogy experts. Check out Search Squad on FB or reach out to Priscilla Stone Sharp - Search Angel. You should never pay for a search angel!!! We wish you the best of luck.
@@savingoursisters-sosincorp6120 I have a friend who had her baby taken away when she gave birth as a teenager. She finally found her daughter several years ago. It has been an up and down relationship. Herself, her daughter and now her granddaughter all have had emotionally and mentally difficult lives. It is just heartbreaking to see what these kinds of actions cause in the lives of these people!!
@@LostintheTwilightZone adoption changes who the Mother and child were supposed to be. That's profound when you really think about it.
What a heartfelt story. Prayers and much love to the family.
Incredibly sad, but glad he met his birth mother and siblings. To think the generations of damage that was done with these policies and social norms... what are we doing today that will negatively impact the future?
Adoption is ALWAYS based on loss first. Society needs to start recognizing that separating families instead of supporting them is the wrong answer. No one wants a child to suffer in an abusive or neglectful homes - but those who are 'choosing' adoption today are doing so based on withheld resources, trauma education and full disclosure of information. The adoption professionals collect large sums of money and the natural family is left in ruin. Come check out SOS. We have proven that infant adoption is unnecessary. Only 7 mothers over the last 10 years after receiving all the information, support and resources chose adoption. 2 tried to revoke and get their babies back - one couldn't make it to a fax machine in time (because verbally revoking isn't enough!) and the other one had no revocation period. Unless unbiased full disclosure, education & support happens by an OBJECTIVE and NON-PROFITING third party (such as SOS) on everything adoption, the mother/family is only making this 'choice' out of sheer desperation. We know - we see it every day.
All I can think of is the birth mother's eternal prayer to hold her baby once more coming true. Mazl tov.
I'm so glad a wonderful couple adopted him. I'm sorry his real parents had to give him up.
My great aunt became pregnant and unwed. The man would not marry her and ran off during the 1940s. She was my grandmother's sister. My grandmother stated my grandfather's brother would marry her. He had been in an accident and had a glass eye. Her sister was very beautiful and he was happy to marry her. He raised her daughter as his own. If he hadn't married her she would have had a terrible life.
Did she marry her uncle???
@@movalle22 no she married her brother in laws brother. He was no relation to her.
The laws must change, everyone deserves to know the truth of their story about where they came from🙏
I absolutely agree.
A very touching hope felt story
Thank you for reporting on this
Heart breaking. I’m happy that at least this family had some closure.
RIP David Rosenberg. As an adoptee, this story hit me kind of hard. I wish I had known you. I also have developed a great relationship with my biological mother, and found uncanny similarities. Everyone who knew you, seemed to love you, not to mention really liked you, so your life was a real blessing.
So glad that at least they reunited. But still a heart breaking story.
It’s heartbreaking. Bless you all my feelings of love are going to you
Adoption can be heartwarming and sometimes depressing at the same time.
Forced adoption is devastating. It's cruel. That's what happened to me and millions of other young girls at that time.
Yes I know for me it was a nightmare I tried to run away from home they would always bring me back.
@@daisybenton7784 I'm so sorry this happened to you. Sorry for all of us. So sad.
Adoption is ALWAYS based on loss first. Society needs to start recognizing that separating families instead of supporting them is the wrong answer. No one wants a child to suffer in an abusive or neglectful homes - but those who are 'choosing' (ahem) adoption today are doing so based on withheld resources, trauma education and information.
@@savingoursisters-sosincorp6120 yes adoption is loss. It's a trauma where the victims are expected by the whole of society to be grateful.
Such a bittersweet tale. God bless.
Such a beautiful story.
what a touching story thanks for sharing
Great story. His parents were such a beautiful couple.
I was adopted in 1966. My sister was adopted in 1963 (different birth mother). When my sister was adopted, the agency said she was German heritage. No, it wasn't until about 5 years ago that my sister found out she is 1/2 Native American (from the Turtle Mountains area of northern North Dakota) and 1/2 Caucasian. Her entire life had been a lie. I don't dare look for my birth Mom, as I am afraid of what I will find out--positive or negative. Adopted kids never feel as if they are part of the adoptive family, and always wonder about their birth family.
All records should be unsealed
YES! Especially with all adoption entities touting 'open adoptions' now. We living it know that open adoptions are rarely kept open, and the adoptee nor natural families have any say. All power shifts to the adoptive parents - yet open adoption is dangled in front of mothers today in order for them to sign consent forms. From 'saint' to 'sinner' with the stroke of a pen. Condemned for even considering giving their baby 'the better life'. If it's such a loving and better thing - why keep it a secret - because it is not natural - oh and it's profitable to help families stay together.
Coming out of the "children are to be seen and not heard " generation, parents had way too much power over their children. Not all parents had good intentions then, just as today.
If I wanted to see my adoption records from my birth state I can’t even though this story says I can. That’s great for everyone who can to get medical information.
What state?
Have you recontacted with you CPS recently?
Have you registered with sites looking for birth parents?
@@susanfudge1737 CPS won’t give you anything either. Most states, were legally not allowed our own records.
That’s horrible! Have you thought about a DNA test?
I am an adoptee and found my bio father’s family by matching on Ancestry. Pettioned the court in one state for my birth certificate, and another for records and nothing could be “found” in either. No one should be denied knowing who they are or where they come from or what happened to their child. Ancestry is your best bet.
Read the book by Ann Fessler. The Girls Who Went Away. It’s heartbreaking 😖
So sad what people did and for what...Oh what'll the neighbor's think?!
Just the other day a friend & I were discussing the secrets of adoptions. This was an Eye opener, young woman being threatened with Juvie Hall. Always thought it was an act of love giving up a child willingly. We really are barbaric in handling of human beings in this country. Would be interesting to know how other countries handled their adoptions? Sad that the time was short in getting to meet, however Who wouldn’t would take the time regardless.
Gracie - you know how they do it today? When we help a mother revoke her consent (when she can and has a revocation period) someone ALWAYS calls child protective services! EVERY. SINGLE. TIME! They use CPS/DCFS today as a weapon. What is happening today is that many adoption entities (agencies, attorneys and adoption facilitators) are becoming licensed in foster placements. So, this way the revenue keeps coming in. Newborn babies today are hard to come by and they have to keep the $$ coming in somehow. So, when we help a mom parent - they call CPS and conveniently say 'we have a placement all ready to go' because they are prospective adoptive parents who they have coercively 'matched' with the mother before hand. Mothers do NOT understand that once they tangle with anyone involved in separating them from their infant - they will end up 99.9% of the time separated from their infant. The deck is stacked against natural families and they are condemned for even considering this 'loving act' as Jane so deceptively puts it. We must start supporting families and stop separating them. The secrets of adoption are still being kept. There are many who have been promised open adoptions (another persuasive coercion tactic) only to have them slammed shut once the ink is on the consent forms - and the mother has no recourse at all. She goes from 'saint' to 'sinner' with the stroke of a pen. We need to start regulating this indu$try and the billions of dollars it rakes in each year in the US alone.
Other countries? I am sure they all do it. Check out the mother and baby homes from Ireland, funded by the Catholoc Church.
this is a very upsetting piece as I find the whole adoption thing to be a disgrace. nobody has the moral right to withhold the identity of an individual from that individual.
Amen! Please come and consider supporting our family preservation work at SOS! We would love to have you - this practice is still done today - it is done a little differently we call is 'persuasive coercion'. Today lying by omission, withholding information, matching expectant mothers in crisis with prospective adoptive parents, and paying 'expenses' to expectant mothers in crisis which creates obligation, and telling the mom about their 'failed adoption' stories is all what we call persuasive coercion.
@@savingoursisters-sosincorp6120 consider it done. I was recently viewing a map of Northeast USA [new england states] to see what states allow info to adoptees.. I noted that my state, MA, does not. I hope to learn more about how those states went about making the change. I could probably get it on the statewide ballot with enough signatures. As the years pass one begins to think about "legacy" and I ask what mark [s] I wish to leave....this would be at the top of the list.
I found my birth mother 2 weeks after she died. Devasting bc i looked for years.
as an adoptee i agree we should be given to connect with our origins ~ there's a place in the Heart that yearns to know from which we came 👣💜🌎
It wasn't just AFTER WWII, it was before and during. Check out Georgia Tann.
Wonderful story
Even today - resources are NOT provided to Mothers in crisis. Adoption trauma via maternal separation is not discussed with families facing this decision. We at SOS prevent unnecessary adoptions by providing education, resources and support to expectant families. Adoption is very much an UNREGULATED INDU$TRY - A BILLION $ BUSINESS still today. We have the documented over the last the last 10 years to back up this statement. Come check us out.
SHE may have had no idea how babies were made, but I'll bet HE did!
Terribly sad. Threatend to be sent to a juvenile for giving birth a child , unbelievable !!!
I was lucky to be born in Kansas and had access to my original birth certificate when I turned 21. It should be this way everywhere. To cut people off from their own history and life is criminal. No excuse will change that.
I agree completely. Once you become of age the child should have access to thier original birth certificate if they wish to see it. What the state did cut David's life short and millions of others that if they had had access to vital health information could still be alive right now.
I worked in Pixley with “baby Susan”. She opened adoption file and after 10 years hadn’t been contacted by birth mother. It’s now been 22 years and I wish to know if you ever found your bio mom. If you follow these cases and read this please tell me if you found her.
I did my ancestry dna 2 years ago and found out I had a sister that I didn’t know about. My father had an affair and the child was put up for adoption. It came as a Hugh shock and took some adjustment to work through the new reality.
Unseal them all
I was adopted, my life was amazing. My husband was adopted. My research in graduate school was on adoption. So let me be clear to people who misunderstand: When we look for the information about our birth, we’re not looking for families and we’re not looking for parents. We have wonderful families and wonderful parents, thank you very much. We are trying to find the answer to the mystery of our lives, a mystery other people don’t have - where they came from. It may not be a pretty picture, but we have a right to know. It is not always a happy ending, but it is a conclusion and that’s important. And I will say to this Glaser
woman, I was not adopted because it was a thing to have children. My parents dearly loved me and wanted me. Start making adoption into something ugly, it is something wonderful. Of course you are profiting from this so there’s that.
Please don't speak for all adoptees. I am truly happy for you and anyone else who had a wonderful adoptive family and upbringing. Some of us weren't as fortunate. Some of us did go looking for a parent. Some of us, far too few sadly, actually found that parent, and went on to have a healing relationship for both adoptee and biological mother. I was lucky to be in this catagory.
Your story is beautiful, unique and rare.
Each person, has their story to tell! Good or bad, they need the information for medical records or so they will not date a relative! It's good that you and your husband's life was great! Everyone doesn't have that story!
The lies, deception, and horror of adoption continue to this day. My own adoption was illegal in 1991. My mother, who loved and wanted me, was coerced into an adoption plan and then threatened with financial retribution if she didn't give me up. I was purchased by monsters who abused me my whole life. I became an addict and attempted suicide in my late teens and early 20s. The trauma of the separation from my mother affects me to this day, every day.
Thank goodness I have cut ties with my abusers, gotten sober, and reunited with my family as it should always have been.
In the words of Anna Freud: "The horrors of war, pale beside the loss of a mother."
I had a baby in 1970 that I placed for adoption. I was barely 16 and the pregnancy was the result of a date rape. For the most part, at that time adoption was still very much a closed system. I wasn’t even allowed to see my baby, let alone hold her. I’m glad the process has become more open. I think it’s better for all concerned.
🤦♀️ what people do to each other!
I think when I turn 18 if I was adopted I have the right to know who my parents were and then possibly have a contact number to contact them if my birth parents wanted that information
It depends on the state you live in. Your adoptive parents have that information, though.
Without the original birth certificate that’d be kidnapping. Your attorney had that information if you chose not to. Be honest.
No you actually do not have that right in most case. Only 9 states allows unrestricted access to your original birth certificate at age 18.
Not all reunions end happily.
Yes! Birth records need to be made public, my biological father was adopted at birth and one things that bothers me is not knowing any medical history form his birth family.
Wow. An actual real good non propaganda news story.
My Exhusband was abused by his adoptive mother.
I am a foreign adopted baby from Athens, Greece in 1955 to a couple Overton and Norma Zinn of Ogden, Utah. I know nothing of my birth parents. I was in an infant asylum in Athens.
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David and his family are well respected in the Portland Jewish Community
Unadulterated, factual truth is the best option. Not someone's personal truth per se, or a manufactured truth based on or influenced by convenience, secrecy, shame, or money, or emotionality, or biased laws, or religious beliefs, or race, or coercion, or the historical/outdated morals of the past, or definitions of family, or myths , dreams & fantasy, etc. etc. With their unadulterated, factual, unfalsified, not-redacted original birth documents all adults are rightfully and equally free to create and navigate their relationships accordingly. Good-bad, loving-not loving, a-families/parents, b-families/parents, adopted, not adopted all becomes equal - everyone should have the same right to personal information so they can choose and navigate for themselves according. The same laws should apply to all, adopted or not. Laws and the adoption industry have a long way to go.
Yours is the absolutely best comment I have ever read regarding adoption. As an adoptee who was fortunate enough to find my birth mother when I was 19 in 1995, I live in a state wherein I still cannot hold or have access to my original documents. Maddening to think that she and I could walk in together, hand in hand, DNA, and 25+ years of relationship backing up our claims........and yet would be told, no, you cannot have your own birth documents.
His sister and daughter look alike.
Freaky story. Formerly married friends of mine had been like David's birth parents, having a child in their mid-teens and being forced to give up the child for adoption in a distant city. They had moved to and lived our community for some seventeen years. Unfortunately the wife was never able to conceive after the only child they would have. In their 40's "Shelia" told her husband she wanted a divorce and for him to father a child. After several years of separation he married a person his ex-wife set him up with and sure enough, fathered a child. That same year, only a 1/4 mile from where Shelia lived an adopted boy discovered "Shelia" and "Lloyd" were his birth parents and had been living that close for the past seventeen years of his life. Unbelievable, freaking unbelievable. Also how weirdly sad for the birth parents...
What you described that 'Shelia' experienced is called 'secondary infertility' and 40% of mothers who lose a child to adoption suffer from it. It is unexplained, but sadly for those who are living the loss know exactly what it is - it is lifelong trauma and affects us and our lost children forever. We at SOS are these women, we are the adopted, we are the adoptive and foster parents living adoption trauma and see that family preservation whenever possible is the right thing to do. No one wants a child to suffer in an abusive or neglectful home - those are not the cases we are talking about - and those are not the ones who are considering giving their children 'the better life'. We help families by providing full disclosure of everything adoption for free. No one is paid. We are an all volunteer nationwide network started by 2 mothers who unnecessarily lost their children to the indu$try. We have helped over 1200 families stay in tact and find the education and resources they needed to make an informed decision. Only 7 mothers in the last 10 years have truly chosen adoption - and 2 wanted their children back - because no one can fully describe the devastation to your heart and soul and entire being of living without your infant. We would love your support of family preservation thru SOS. Send 'Shelia' our way - I'm sure it would be salve to her broken heart.
'Mercia, where everyone's rights have been violated since her very inception.
This is the very dark side of conservatism.
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Having lived at this time in history, I really challenge the authors assertion that people adopted to look patriotic? Nonsense. The baby boomer generation was enormous and not everyone can conceive. So they adopted. There were no advanced fertility treatments , in vitro or other options to try. I had lots of friends over the years who were adopted, they were and are still very loved and cherished. Shame on you for even suggesting otherwise.
They did say people who couldn't conceive adopted to be part of the post war family oriented community. There was a huge patriotic lean to everything after the war. Mentioned elsewhere was that there was a conservative vision. Pre-war was shotgun marriages and post war a baby after six months of marriage a scandal.
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It's very sad! Back then, there were so many horrible stories of forbidden love and having to give up your child! 😒
The pill changed it.
She did not know where babies were made yeah right.
Not where, how. Lots of young women had little or bad information.
What the f are you doing at 16
If you can’t stand up to responsibilities of your actions then don’t
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I have a first cousin out there born around the same time we're looking for. Obviously not Jewish, but very similar circumstances.
I hope you're able to find each other.
Consider doing DNA - Ancestry. Then look up a free search angel. Priscilla Stone Sharp - Search Angel is one. You should never pay for a search angel. There are many like you. We wish you the best Mark.
I would like a new law. If you adopt poc then you must also teach them their language of origin.
Some people who adopt do the cheap move...... oh asian baby? of korean or vietnamese... oh just send them to karate class.
They try to pc on everything except when it comes to their adopted kid. sad really.
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