The problem with women asking about "good men" is that what they say they want in a man and what they actually go for don't align. Letting society i.e. women define what a good man is, is a huge mistake.
The problem with the phrase "good men" is that it implies by default that men aren't good, and therefore we have to differentiate the "good men" from the bad men. It's shallow reductionist thinking.
correct, look at all the single older women or single mothers in their 30's or older who picked the wrong man based on their feelings. That number will continue to grow.
My mother told me all she wanted was to raise a "perfect, good little boy." This is the problem. Being a "good boy" only works for dogs. It doesn't work for competing with other men for jobs, women, and aggressively planning and pursuing a goal. Women think that because being nice and charming gets THEM the things that they want, they think it works the same for men. No. Being well-behaved will only lead a man to harmlessness, niceness, and mediocrity. Dr. Robert Glover articulated this wonderfully in "No More Mr. Nice Guy".
Yup schools teaches us this too. Being nice, courtesy, respectful and etc only works because children are easier to control and teach. I never knew about it until I read dr glovers book. I have NEVER gotten laid or gone on dates for being nice and behaving good like a good little dog.
They will tell husbands to be “good boys”, and they might as well mean it at some level (makes him a good provider), but if he does as told, she’ll only dry up down there and cheat with Chad.
Well, one possibility simply is that 'good men' have gone off 'crazy, entitled women', right? This one, as good as he may be, certainly has. And he is waiting for a 'good enough woman' to show herself.
Yes and no. Yes they break men until their first-two- three breakup but after these events, you, as a man, have to wake up by your own mean. It won't be the fault of the feminism if men are broken and simping past 30 years old.
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn. This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. Atleast she and the kids will have peace without any ab*use (due to alcohol or p*orn and what not). Keeping these men in the home is harmful to the woman and her kids. For one, it could teach the children incompetence at a very young age. Also, it is a fact that the most vio*lent crimes are commi*tted by males and most of the vict*ims are other men. We often hear stories about males ending their own kids and the wives. Women who choose better will always be single over these types of men.
To be fair, I notice a lot of fathers doing the same to their daughters by encouraging them to be strong and independent or to focus on college and career before thinking of settling down. I think both mothers and fathers unconsciously want their children of the opposite sex to not be attractive, whereas they will have no problems helping children of their same gender to be attractive. I would guess this is because of feeling like they hold a special place that will be replaced if their children find a mate, so for example, the mother is the most important woman in her son's life until he has a girlfriend, and the same with fathers.
Single mothers destroyed generations of men because they raised them to be compliant and serve the woman’s needs and not their own. Coach Greg Adams calls these guys son-husbands which is spot on
It’s hard to say men abandon their children when 70-80% of divorces are initiated by women. Further, women want the alpha’s seed knowing full well he has other options. The pregnancy is used as a control mechanism which fails. Women go on to manipulate the alpha’s child into becoming compliant to her and serving her which is something she could never get from the alpha himself. This is far more insidious.
@@Lilith-9223 Firstly, the problem with women like you is that they prefer to please themselves over susteinance of a relationship and even children. This is what causes women to file for major majority of divorces. "All about me and my feelings" Secondly, women control access to physical intimacy. They literally choose whom to have babies with, unlike majority of men. Do you see how wrong you are in saying that its men's fault that the families break?
My mom was afraid of men and so she made sure to reward all of my feminine qualities and not the masculine ones. Also I didn't grow up with a father passed age 4. This is how it happens, folks!
My father worked on oil rigs and was gone one month then home one month all the way up until my 21st birthday when he passed away unexpectedly from a fall and head injury. So I feel like I was raised completely by my mother. I get where you are coming from. I don't know how to manage money. I don't necessarily care to make a lot of money, and have not been in a relationship since age 15. I just turned 37 and at times still feel lost and helpless.
@Jim Long if they did that people would actually be slightly financially literate, we all know that's not what they want. It's better to have uneducated consumers, the school system is still designed to churn out good worker drones.
@Manifest I'm not trying to be ungrateful, I'm simply trying to point out not having a 2 parent household has made me not able to stand up for myself, I still have trouble saying no to people because I can't get away from being a people pleaser, and growing up without a strong father figure in my life is causing me issues to this day. I know it's my responsibility as an adult to fix them. But even now I have so much indecision, and lack of confidence I don't know what to do with my life as a 37 year old man.
The destruction of male only spaces has been a terrible blow for young men learning how to become men. There is barely anywhere men can relax and just be normal away from some controlling woman.
My son and I did Boy Scouts before the girls were allowed to join.......it was one of those spaces and one of the BEST ever for early teenage young men......Not anymore
@@user-vi4fy5zl3z Seen it firsthand myself, all the hungry eyes staring at me as soon as i walked in the door. Said hello to some of my former friends and scout mates, then noped the eff out.
Same as my upbringing pretty much. My father was completely emasculated by my mother, and I got raised in a very feminine, non-aggressive and non-assertive way. Every bit of masculinity was shamed in me when I started to hit puberty. So all the healthy masculinity things I should have learned at the time I had to teach myself later in life, as I was punished for exhibiting any of it and was similarly punished for attempting any individuation. Heck, they resented pretty much until they died that I had individuated - in their eyes I should've been that 'kind, nice little boy' all through my life, and they'd snap at me when they realised I wasn't. But controllers are controllers.
@@EE12CSVT That's called an enmeshment family dynamic. They don't want you to be your own man, like you're just an extension of them. It's very toxic and narcissistic. I had the same experiences growing up, but it was a bit different for me as my family is extremely religious, so they used the guise of spirituality to hide how sinister the whole thing is.
Women face a serious congitive dissonance. On one side they feel power-starved due to their rationalisations over our biological differences. This causes them to both consciously and unconsciously to emasculate boys, and raise them with a shame about their masculinity. And on the other they want masculine alpha males.
@@keylanoslokj1806 Correct. The first is the woman's solipsistic problem; the second part is another woman's problem. I have to wonder if this dichotomy contributes to males' madonna-whore complex? Regardless, it is making society schizophrenic.
I was just thinking that today, most of the young Latino men I work with kind of stand out with those qualities. They will be the victors of the spoils.
I consider myself a good guy. I was always rejected for not meeting wemen's expectations. Seven years ago I married a Japanese girl who I met online in TMA, a marriage agency. Today we have a six year old girl and a four year old boy. I am immensely happy with my family.
Be careful Japanese women are known to plot out exit strategy in secret while you are blissfully happy. She can take your kids to Japan and you will have a hard time seeing them while paying for child support
This is a larger overall societal problem. Not just a personal one. Conditioning masculinity out of men is part of a larger direction for society. It is very dangerous and definitely needs to be addressed.
My mom did a great diservice making me super femine and accomodating and kept reminding me of benig empathetic and how important it was to be a nice guy. BIG mistake as it turned disasterous when I hit dating age. Girls who are friends are not girlfriends when you act all nice and accomodating. Coach Corey Wayne and then Redpill really opened my eyes what reality is from what I was taught.
Yip, you and a few million more have really woken up to all this over the last 5 or so years. Once you've seen behind the curtain, there's no going back to before.
@@mitchs0 CCW has turned quite anti RP. I think he observes it causes too many men to go blackpill and makes women feel unsafe since we end up with attitudes. I both agree and disagree on some level on that. But frame is really undertaught in rp where CCW. I read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" which the audiobook is on youtube. That works wonders
"Where have all the good men gone?" =Where are the men that offer me most benefit-and if I'm scrupulously honest-significantly more than I am able or prepared to offer that same man.
Once they hit the wall and are done with the party years they will come looking for a nice guy. Not because they like you, it's only because they can't attract CHAD any more.
Yep, and it's these nice guys that need to keep rejecting these washed up women. Keep going your own way gents. If they were too good for you in their prime, then don't save them in their decline.
@@brandongray1059 Most of these so called nice guys are simps. Captain save a hoe. They will keep saving these washed up hoes from actually facing the consequences of their actions. And they still won't get any respect and the woman will treat sex like a chore. It sure is tough being a simp, it's almost like a mental illness.
Women face a serious congitive dissonance. On one side they feel power-starved due to their rationalisations over our biological differences. This causes them to both consciously and unconsciously to emasculate boys, and raise them with a shame about their masculinity. And on the other they want masculine alpha males.
@@keylanoslokj1806 Women have always felt they were mentally superior to men, that's why they love to play mind games. They only feel physically inferior. Nowadays they don't even have to be at a financial disadvantage. But you're right about their cognitive dissonance. A lot of women subconsciously resent their sons, they have penis envy. They would rather sabotage their son than he grow up to be a dominant masculine man. In reality, by the time a boy is like 7 there really is nothing more he needs to learn from his mother. At that age he should spend as much time as possible around strong, wise and competent men to know what real men should behave like. Feeding off that energy and building his self esteem steadily.
It always amused and saddened me that women (especially single mothers of course) happen to be so compelled to raise their boys to be the same kind of men the mothers ignored their whole lives. Women have become such a destructive entity in society that it's depressing.
🎯💯 exactly, mine even hated that so many wahmen loved and wanted me to clap their cheeks because I am that " perfect man" that she told wahmen to stop getting with me and sabotaged my success so as in an attempt to prevent them from finding me attractive. They truly are sick and cursed. It's OK though, God's judgment will show them just how wrong they are
Your mother raised you to be the sort of man women want. Your issue is getting your foot through the door to be able to show women you are that guy. You have the seeds for long term success and are tossing them for the hopes of potentially a few years of easy work in getting a woman's attention. Remember women aren't men, getting her attention doesn't equal getting or keeping a girlfriend. Getting her attention doesn't guarantee sex. The bad boy route is a fools errand. Most "hyper masculine" rappers, pretty boys and even that idiot Tate all have and would admit to being sweet to women and Simping.
Mothers tend to raise their sons using a standard of what their perfect men could be, whereas fathers raise their sons using a standard of what men are. One is *idealistic* and the other is *realistic.*
I grew up being quite feminine , but now at the age of 27, I had enough and began to rebel against everything I was told was "the right thing" and never felt better.
So what is it that you do now? You don't walk around threatening/intimidating people, you don't tell women "get your pretty ass over here, toots", I assume. So what are some examples?
@@Rockownz5150 Dont hold the door for women. Walk through it first, she comes second. Dont buy her presents. Only compliment her when she deserves it. Dont be afraid to walk away. If she disrespects you and crosses a serious boundary - walk away. Hold the leverage. Don't let her move in with you without signing a common law agreement / marriage prenup. Dont pick her up all the time, if she has a car, she can drive. Do you want me to keep going?
@@MikeyPaper These are mostly examples of (in)action when you're already in a relationship. What is it that you do then and what is supposed to make women want to be with you?
Many mothers set a standard that girlfriends and wives will never meet. I based my expectations of women based on what my mother did (seemed like the logical thing to do). Once I started dating, reality struck. The narcissistic, capricious, fickle, selfish, and downright crazy behavior patterns is enough to drive any man insane.
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn. This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. But as usual males will lack accountability and blame women.
Those are the ones that you’re dating. Not all of us are like that, same about men, not all men are terrible. If you noticed these patterns then nicely and securely point them out to that person to work on themselves should they choose to accept that mission.
The 'good men', as l consider myself to be, have grown tired of wah-men altogether. The constantly trying to please them, make and keep them happy, making everyday exciting for them, competing with the hundreds and thousands of other men on social sites. It's just not worth it anymore. I was married for 17 years until my ex thought she could 'do better', and she filed for divorce. I have remained single ever since, and she has remarried THREE TIMES since then. I have never been happier. My life is calm, peaceful and stress-free. Turns out, she did me a favor.
lol. You might think that at least her last guy should have seen the signs on the wall. I mean, what kind of idiot marries a woman who's been divorced three times???
It always baffles my mind when they think "they can do better". Usually she's older, less physically attractive, has more baggage and is saddled with kids. What are the chances she can do better than her ex husband? Slim to none. Men greatly value looks and hers have depreciated. Men also don't want to deal with baggage and another man's kids, and she probably has both. However, these women still manage to maintain this fantasy in their minds that they can do better.
I’m not on social media, except for YT comments. The other day one of my siblings got a message on facebook from I girl I knew from school years ago. She remembered me fondly, even kept a letter I had sent her back then. She let slip that she had been married 3 times and engaged 4 times. Yes, when I knew her she was attractive and charming. Let’s just say I passed on reconnecting.
Tupac surprisingly had the insight after being raised by a single mum and promising himself that he wouldn't be like the other guys only to get the 'you're too nice' treatment. He called it the ultimate betrayal. And you know, i feel like it is. Society raises men to be nice, doesn't reward the behaviour and wonders why so many men become bitter about it. I'm sick of the 'WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NICE FOR THE SAKE OF IT' when my basic needs people take for granted aren't being met.
Well Tupac, like many men, started off by being “too nice” to girls in his early teens. He didn’t get any good results and several girls actually told him that he was too nice to date! So he adjusted and turned into a bad boy and boom - great results. I remember coming to this realization in my teens and it stung a bit
@@brianmeen2158 he even said that when he got successful all the women started coming after him and then he realized the ugly truth of female nature. He then became a bit of a womanizer. He also met his father when he got shot in 1994.
My sister once asked that question “where have all the good men gone?” I told her stop going to the bars and dating your ex-bf’s friends and you’ll find some. Shoot she once even had 3 Mr Clark Kent’s walk right in front of her and didn’t even bat an eye at them.
One piece of the problem is that these where 3 Clark Kent's without any kind superman showing in them. They have looked away that part of their personality into their unconscious. Sometimes they try to be superman but they don't do it in a healthy way. Instead it shows up in a unhealthy way because they can't control that part of their personality, they never learned to.
In college, the "nice guys" that study hard and focus on their future are ignored by American women that are chasing the jocks and bad boys. Eventually, those "nice guys" go overseas to get a wife. As time goes on, those "nice guys" get life experience and become "good men". When those American women hit their thirties and forties, they believe all the "nice guys" are gone. The reality though, is that the American women discarded them a long time ago.
Correct, women now have that freedom and choose men based on their feeling, not on logic or practicality. In Kevin Samuel’s channel, numerous women in their 30’s hit a wall and become bitter at men and somehow turn the narrative to there’s something wrong with men. Let women continue to not be held accountable and a guy with a fancy psych degree talk about pirates and treasures.
@@michaelwright1602 I have seen both situations (divorces, successful marriages) with guys that brought them back. Some of the girls are just looking for a visa, but also guys with no relationship experience and not understanding dangers of hypergamy. Best option is to work, save money, retire overseas, and not bring them back.
Mothers see their boys as a retirement plan. They want their boys to be around to take care of them in their old age and will accomplish this by turning their boys into emotional dependents who will never leave and have their own lives.
Narcissist mothers also do this to their daughters, esp if the mothers married the fathers for money and they are not around. Female engineer here daughter of an evil entitled narcissist. My mother hates me because I won't be her piggy bank and won't fund her retirement lifestyle now that she's widowed, after she spent a lifetime financially supported by a man she despised.
What's your retirement plan? Do you plan on being a dependent on the government? Government taxes the young to support the old with Social Security, this amounts to the same thing!
The sad part is such mothers do not realize that some of the positive masculine traits like self reliance, hard work, becoming competent, being competitive are critical for their sons to be able to go into the world, achieve, earn an income, be successful and ultimately take care of their mothers.
Mothers are often in denial of what they’re actually attracted to in men. Mothers have often settled for a man who is less physically attractive and less dominant than their preference, and acknowledging this causes cognitive dissonance with her family life. In an effort to maintain sanity, she convinces herself that she’s genuinely happy with the man she settled for, and thus raises her boys to be like him.
The problem is that's subconscious: most women were not even aware of that fact before the Internet. Not that they don't want their kids to thrive, but unfortunately one must be clear of cognitive dissonance (at least when it comes to sexual preference) to organise a sane society. Which we (men included) are just barely scraping the surface of...
Or something more sinister is at play. She raises her boys to be weak so that their father's weak genetics won't be passed on. She probably does this unknowingly, but it wouldn't surprise me if she knew.
I'm happily married for 15 years but had questions about relationships that went off the rails when I was in my twenties. Great information thank you for all this content.!
Raising a boy to be too nice is all about the comfort for a parent (obidience, not talking back etc), not what's in the child best interest. Think about that for a moment. It's selfish really.
@@c.guibbs1238 You are wrong. Only because you learn a boy to not take anything at facevalue, talk back, stand up for himself, prioritize himself, doesn't mean he has to be cruel and end up in prison. It's when a boy is being raised to be too nice, you end up with these weak people pleasers with no boundaries and spine who are really manipulative.
Absolutely! Unfortunately, this is how my parents/single mom were with me and they groomed me to be a nice guy. I was punished as a child if I expressed myself and they didn’t like what I had to say. “You better stay in a childs place!”, “only speak when youre spoken to, I didn’t ask you anything so shut up!” My parents and adult family members would say crap like this to me all throughout my childhood, so then this carried on into adulthood and I struggle with asserting myself.
Next door neighbor was a helicopter mom. Now her only son has flunked out of life. Age 33. Moved back home. Living in basement. Never see him. Depressed. fat. No way to go through life
There’s also the fact that ‘good men’ to a post-wall woman are more interested in younger females with less sexual wear and tear from other mates. You’re the next podcast to hit big in this field.
I think it's best to keep in mind that none of what is happening is natural progression. Everything we have been experiencing is the consequence of certain individuals trying to steer people's lives via media and state childhood "education". Someone thought and still thinks it's ok to mess with lives. We need to get to the point where people that do this sort of thing, and all that help them, are met with short drops and quick stops.
Yup. Even the civil rights movement had a lot of big money families behind it. Rosa parks didnt just sit at the front of the bus because her 'feet were tired' like were all taught in elementary school lol. No, she was convinced to do that by a wealthy jewish org that told her they would cover any and all legal fees or expenses for doing the political stunt. Rosa wasnt even the orgs first attempt to get media attention. They did this not to help blacks, but to remove barriers preventing them from reaching higher levels of wealth and influence for their people. They have always been wealthy, much of that wealth gained at the expense of the common man. Today, they are less than 2% of the population, yet half of the top 1% income earners. They have almost the same population as native americans, yet there are but a few who reach the top 1%, most live in poverty. What are the results of the civil rights movements? 70% of the presidential advisors are jewish. Black welfare is at an all time high. Black abortions at an all time high. Black crime (perp and victems) at an all time high. It was never about helping them. It was always about exploitng them. I imagine its the same for feminism. Just check Bernays.
I'm raising two daughters and I often wonder what the heck happened to boys/males? Geez, the boys seem all afraid of everything and passive, at least in my observation. It's a huge mistake to raise boys like a bunch of scared people. It's actually rather concerning to me to see teenage boys so weak. I'm all for equality for women but gosh let's not squash the male ego. We need both strong men and strong women.
Boys can literally lose their education and/or job if they take a step wrong. Those boys are right to prioritize their own future and well being WAY higher than impressing you and your daughters.
I was raised by step father from 5 to 12, I’m so thankful my mom let him show me masculinity by hanging out with him, how to cut wood, work on vehicles , drive a stick at 9, motorcycle at 6, be a fun “dad” yet disciplined me also!! Now I have raised three great men in their 20’s all with careers , 2 own homes, and one owns a rental, and sweet submissive wives/ homemakers, 2 grandsons and 2 more in the womb. It’s when we get the natural order wrong that screws up society, ( hence gender bending) It’s not rocket surgery, it’s all in the “Book”, the manual of life( instructions for a happy life) .
i had the opposite. he hated me and would not teach me anything life changing. nothing of good value to live. but then i later found out he was a freemason or some secrete society that i cannot see.
@@r.1.336 Why is investing your time serving a boss solely interested in your utility to his company that superior of a pursuit, when that same dedication could be channeled into creating a warm and loving family environment that nurtures the full potential of your children with the man you actually love?
The better question is, "Where did all the good women go?" Good women can find good men, but poor quality/bad women struggle with it. I have never seen a woman worth having a relationship with ask that question.
there are some women who are too kind hearted and see the best in everyone. I have friends like that who go all in and are great women but they cant see the signs when someone is using them as a placeholder or not that interested. I think its unfortunate all around
Where did all the good men go? If you gotta ask, you're the problem. Did you really think that there would be zero consequences to telling entire generations of young boys that they're toxic, their natural sexuality is shameful or harmful, and if they want to be good men, they'll shut up, get out of the way, and let women handle everything? Did you think you could blame all the sins of the past on men and masculinity (while conveniently omitting that it was men who gave their lives, in the millions, to put a stop to them) and there would be zero consequences at all? Did you actually think that you could discriminate against boys and men from kindergarten all the way through to university, and there would be no negative effects? Same question for the entirety of the white collar workforce - and I'm sure blue collar would follow if anybody but men actually wanted to do hard work, but they don't. Society has enthusiastically turned marriage and family life into the legal equivalent of a minefield, where a man's house, his life savings, and his children belong to him right up until his wife says those three magic words: "I'm not happy." Then he loses all of them. Did you actually think you could get away with doing this, and there would be no repercussions whatsoever? And what really, really gets under my skin - to anyone who's asking this ridiculous question as if they've been living under a rock since the 60s: how come you never objected to the psychological and emotional abuse of boys that has been going on for decades until you realized that it meant a certain proportion of women wouldn't be able to find a boyfriend they thought was good enough for them? Telling boys how awful they are, telling them they're toxic, telling them they're ists and phobes and bigots, calling their own natural urges and feelings harmful and contributing to a culture of mistreatment, blaming them for history's darkest sins ... All of this was perfectly acceptable, to traditionalists and feminists alike, for decades and decades and decades - right up until men weren't exploitable anymore. Right up until men stopped funding the scam that is college. Right up until men stopped caring about work and started paying fewer taxes. Right up until men said they weren't getting married anymore, and anyone who has a problem with that knows exactly where they can stuff it. Right up until men weren't as rich or as prestigious as women think they deserve. Now it's a problem. So, in every single sense of the phrase: if you gotta ask, you're the problem. If you want the dog to stay on the porch, you have to pet him once in a while. If all you do is kick, hit, and scream at him, then don't act like you're confused when he runs away.
Yes, in today's toxic western society, it is tough to raise sons to be respectful, responsible and resilient adult men. Definitely worth all the struggle and sacrifice though!
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn. This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. And when there is no competence obviously males will lag behind.
Women face a serious congitive dissonance. On one side they feel power-starved due to their rationalisations over our biological differences. This causes them to both consciously and unconsciously to emasculate boys, and raise them with a shame about their masculinity. And on the other they want masculine alpha males.
@@keylanoslokj1806 not really. Most women level up as much as they can. Then they want to meet a masculine man on their level or much above them. But the biggest thing is, he shouldn’t be a douc*he bag. He shouldn’t have to*xic masculinity traits like being a f*uck boy always chasing sk*irts, being aggressive, putting down other men for no reason, measuring his success only with female validation (like locker room talks) and so on.
There's a scene in the movie "Mosul" Where the captain asks the main character Kawa when his father died. He says when he was young, and asks the captain how he knew his father was dead. "You're far too nice. Stop thanking me all the time." I felt called out. Kawa was watching everyone else, letting them decide how things were happening, letting everyone around him make decisions that affected his life. At the end of the movie he discovers the reason his group is fighting and makes the decision to keep fighting himself. Good post
Thanks Doc. I think US society has peaked in abundance and mental illness. The current generation carries on like a bunch of French aristocrats around 1790, who lived for sensation, thrills and degeneracy. That cohort group didn't last long on the evolutionary scale.
Believe me being nice in a 6 year relationship I was deeply connected to her...everything matched..talked over hours ,months,but ultimately without sex at the end..when asked she was shocked that such a nice guy could talk to her like that..thats the irony of being nice....even your GF wont expect sex all of a sudden.There is a thin boundary between being able to do sex and look bad to her eye,,,so being overly nice you can not pass her boundary suddenly and she will feel assulted... so moderetly nicewith somewhat cocky with confidence is a great help achieving romantic realtionships.Too nice and clingy needy behaviour drive women away....
Women See you either as loving romance or as sexual pleasure. At least in modern days. It is the female mind that is confused and cannot accept both in the same man
Yes, sir. To modern women, you are either the sexy Chad she wants to have children with or the simp Beta she wants to raise children with. You can't be both.
The Good Men are looking for Good Women; of which there are VERY FEW left. Why are we asking where all the Good men are when there are so few good women.
"Good men" typically convey a sense of independence, competence, responsibility and that "the buck stops with you" (all of which should automatically translate into the much vaunted "confidence"). A good sense of humor is the icing on the cake if you can muster it.
Lets make one thing perfectly clear. Women are not asking "Where are all the good men?" for the children they want to have. They are asking that to PAY for the children they ALREADY HAVE!
A man without boundaries will create them for himself. A woman without boundaries will destroy everything in her path. It took me a while to figure this out. I was raised by my Mom but also fortunately had several masculine brothers. When they were violent and aggressive and I was the subject of their abuse, I convinced myself that I never wanted to show aggression. What I didn't realize until later is that them being abusive was a separate trait from masculinity. So my 20's were sometimes rough with women. I either ended up with women who wanted to be in charge of me (which even I knew wouldn't work), or I banged my head against the wall wondering what was wrong because women were dating jerks and coming to me after. My late 20's were much better. I learned that women are even more biologically programmed than men are because they generally don't use logical and rational thought. Whereas a man can be conditioned to be more submissive because they do. Women who aren't submissive are not using logical, rational thought though. They are doing what society is telling them to do based on a vocal minority, but on the outside. On the inside they still crave the masculine man to lead them and hold them accountable. I don't put up with any of their crap now and call them out all the time. Women WANT men to have a backbone! And you can actually do it in a respectful way. Establish the boundaries for the relationship and the consequences for crossing those boundaries early on, and just like with children or animals you need to follow through with those consequences if they violate the boundaries they agreed to, or they will never respect you. Sure they'll pretend they're outraged sometimes, but almost every time I've done this with a woman they have not only gotten back in line but ramp up their efforts sexually. The other times they didn't comply I sent them on their way. It's a win win. Just for being a man!
Bang on Brother. There is a clear difference between abusive behaviour and Masculinity... Same realisation for me, roughly around similar timeframes as you experienced... Knowing the difference between that abuse, and other forms of play, sport, healthy challenges/competition is vital for men... It's good to hear your new perspective on dating and relationships as well, and how your experiencing the change - that it is positive for yourself, and those who are with you... That helps me in my own way. Cheers 👍🍻⚡
It mostly comes down to one thing: Owning up and taking responsibility. If a person can do that, they are immediately more attractive, no matter their gender. And with the rise of helicopter parents and participation trophies, parents have made more and more sure, that their child doesn't face harsh consequences for their actions.
I love comments like this women do not possess agency they do not they do not they do not they do not they do not no matter how much you talk about it no matter what you say you cannot take a computer and make it system have dose when it is Windows do you understand
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn. This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. And as usual males will lack accountability and whine about women all day long.
Ladies, you can't cease to be a good, traditional woman and cry when you can't find a good, traditional man. If there are no good men, it's because the Western mothers failed to raise them. You made this bed, now sleep in it. I moved to Mexico where traditional women still exist, and I LOVE IT.
This problem has to do the most with the child's socialization and how children are raised. Stepfathers and mothers do not always teach the same things that fathers teach, and there is a big discrepancy in the amount of discipline given to children by good fathers as opposed to a single mother or stepfather. The breakdown of the nuclear family is a big deal. I think we've lapsed in teaching godly virtues and have become worse as a society over successive generations as a result.
Often stepfathers aren't allowed to discipline as they would their own and kids just resent them more when they try since they're not the real dad, as they put it.
Good men are still here living good lives. Every once in a while, good men venture to online dating, send out a few friendly introductory messages, and are completely ignored. Women don't even want to find out if they are good. So the good men say "stuff this" and get back to living good lives.
@@gottrekk5798 That's 100% true, but what if you ACTUALLY don't want to be friends with women? What if your main goal is to get a nice girlfriend? Won't starting a friendly conversation with a woman give of "friend vibes" then, like she would think "hey, this guy seems like good friend material!" ?
@@Robin-Paul the purpose of a friendly conversation is to minimize the chances of rejection. Basically, with some experience, you can determine if it makes sense to ask for her phone number. The next meeting you go for the kiss, this is the point to distinguish friendship from dating. Friends don't kiss. If she's avoiding the kiss then it's very likely game over, it's time to focus on another girl.
Hey! Now … why would a good man not like my many tattoos, nose ring, and navel jewellery that’s always on display? And why wouldn’t they find my smoking alluring and drinking top shelf sophisticated? Wouldn’t you give an arm and a leg to take me to a 3 star Michelin restaurant? And the chance to sprinkle me with bling to show my friends? What’s wrong with you? Selfish, you are. Probably a dusty, too … etc., etc., … 😮
Great video Dr Taraban! As a Man Mom, we wish to raise competent, self reliant men. Consistently checking my own beliefs in rearing boy children is a necessity. The boy outstripping me helps me to understand where he is in life and then nurture that trait with age appropriateness. Where have all the good men gone? They are currently working on themselves to be better citizens, husband's and fathers
The best thing you could do I step aside after he reaches age 7. After that only show him what it's like for a wahman to nurture a man and respects a man. Help him to achieve the goals HE and God have planned, NOT the plans YOU have for him. My narc mom sabotaged my father's entire family and drove him to an early grave because she did NONE of what I just described to you. Finally I wish you always keep in mind that God will judge everyone based off their intentions so think wisely about the games you try to play on your son and your husband. Best of luck.
This is so true I never got the girls I actually liked. Meanwhile, the girls I couldn't care less if they exploded in front of me are writing me love letters and buying me dinner.
Sure! In my experience you need to develop "Oh a butterfly!" Energy as in: If this girl were to get up and leave at this very second would you A. Be heartbroken Or B. Not really care and enjoy the sight of a nice butterfly? There's not 2 sets of women: regular women and the women you're attracted to. There's 1 set of women: regular women some you might have feelings for It's less about "Just be confident" and more Just be comfortable If being your regular self has they're attention stay your regular self. Don't become Mr. Fixated on her because you think you're in love that will ruin things faster than actively being a jerk. Women aren't Gods nor God's gift to earth. They're regular people Just be good company, make them smile, feel good and things work out from there
@Quincy what absolutely stupid advice. "Just tap into your masculinity bro." Tf? Imagine the inverse, "tap into your inner goddess!" See how stupid that sounds?
The problem isn't good men, it's good men getting into bed with bad people. You have to protect your own interests above all other concerns. Women who are not my wife are not prospective romantic interests. Women who are not my friend are not potential wives. This mindset where guys are always seeking companionship and connection has to end. Be one with your loneliness and be at peace in it, or you can't deal with others properly anyhow. Attraction is irrelevant. Be smart. Be wise.
I've worked on a college campus for 25 years. I'm staff, not faculty and so go unnoticed or ignored by most people. I have a fly on the wall view of things which is kind of objective because I don't really interact with the students. The girls are more masculine. The boys are more effeminate. The trans people are growing. It's a brave new world and I'm not sure it's going to work out well for anyone.
Just started listening to your videos a few days ago. Your way of delivering the topics is really good and explained well. Keep helping us specially the good nice guys. The today women want everything.
"We were a generation of men raised by women; I'm not sure another woman is what we need." ~Tyler Durden (Fight Club) Being obedient doesn't necessarily mean being good. Good is not always nice. I tell my three beautiful sons all the time; men do hard things! Love the way you describe the dynamics between men and women! It has taught me so much!
If you're going to quote it at least do it properly . "We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."
The good men didn't go "gone." Good men weren't wanted. Women wanted the bad boys and got them. The good men quit playing the game. The good men traveled to other countries to find better women. The good men became the bad boys that were so wanted and never turned back. So ladies, I learned womaneze and what you're really saying is, "where are the bad boys who will simp for me?" I'm sorry to say ladies, that man does not exist.
We are right here, where we always were: being ignored, dismissed, and used. You ladies wanted the bad boys, so you got em, and now you think we don’t exist. We do, it’s just that we have been burned so bad we refuse to put ourselves in a position to be burned again and lose everything in the process. It is up to you to fix this, not us. We haven’t changed. We are still the men you always say you want, but you still fall for Chad and then get ghosted and hurt. Stop chasing the chads and recognize a good man or face never ending drama.
It is crucial for women to pick men who will be great fathers. I don't think I could raise my son to be man. He is little now but someday he will look up to his father and learn from him.
If women say they want pleasant, generous, committed men but then their actions clearly show they don't actually desire them, how am I supposed to respect women as a group? How am I supposed to feel empathy towards them when they choose to date psychopaths, narcissists, abusers because they bring them excitement, and then they get burnt? Women don't owe me anything and I'm generally genuinely interested in their wellbeing but this is stuff is tiring.
Single mothers don't arm their sons sufficiently well enough to deal with Women in the real world , I speak from experience, I had it sorted by 21 though and have been VERY successful with women since , chiefly by reversing all of my Mum's advice and that of other female family members.
This video settles it...I strongly suspected it but this clears it up. Dr Orion is redpilled, thank God and thank you Dr Orion for your content and constant contribution. I`ve been a subscribed for a while but this cemented it for me.
Who are we supposed to marry doc? These young ladies body-count are in the hundreds are we supposed to have a relationship and marriage or a child with something like that guaranteed disaster in the future guarantee failure
@@srikrishnavasanth3895 I believe you are right I can't imagine being treated the way I'm supposed to unlike the way American women treat quality men oh yeah and I'm not ugly not fat and not broke
Simply put: marry someone who plays their position, while you play yours. I think the problem in western society is that women "want it all" and believe they deserve it simply because they want it. They want financial independence, but they want a man to "take the lead" They want to be treated as equals (whatever that means) but they want to be adored. They want a man who's loyal and will stick around, but either consciously or unconsciously have other men waiting in the wings "in case things don't work out" Doc said it wonderfully in a different video: having specific incentives is not a good or a bad thing. It's just reality. The sooner we accept reality, the sooner we heal from trauma, the sooner we get what we want, and the sooner we can make healthy decisions. Marry someone who has no illusions about what reality is, and have no illusions about what it is you're looking for.
@@tonydiesel3444 the only cure is proper female role models which doesn't happen anytime soon or marry the person who is not delusional and trust them on a emotional level. Note- never portray your feelings with whom you don't have an emotional connection.
Just a quick message of appreciation for you content which has adding ti my life. I’ve been listening to your videos while driving to and back from work. Thank you!
Maybe next time I can get reborn into an asshole and be the guy who brakes all the rules and makes it. I just can't be bothered to care. Being a good person is detrimental.
We need to get the government out of the bedroom business. Meaning No child support. No spousal support. No wealth redistribution. This would bring back personal responsibility, like back in the 1880s when the divorce rate was around 1.3% over a lifetime.
No, because laws are written for the irresponsible. Responsible honorable men will want to be fathers to their children. Most men aren't responsible, thus laws are written to protect women and children, who are biologically more irrational and illogical.
So what you're saying is that you want to trap women in marriages, even when it's a bad marriage. Men will benefit because they won't even have to be decent because she can't leave. The result will be that women will see the trap for what it is, and not marry or reproduce with you. Good luck.
My own mother was an empty shell and sociopath. I guess I never learned to self validate learning to move throughout life in a healthy manner because I was too busy being trauma bonded too have emotional development.
This comes up a lot in manosphere YT videos and usually devolves into a reductive debate of whose fault the situation exists. Doctor, that reference to culture disappearing after three generations is a concept worth repeating. Not only does it give insight into how we got to where we are now, it also gives hope that the pendulum can swing in another direction in three generations until there is an eventual social homeostasis where the s3xes can be more cooperative....unfortunately I will be long dead and gone when this occurs. However, it will bring to fore the axiom that men and women are actually better together...instead of what exists right now, wherein no one is actually happy...else, why the refrain "Where have all the good men gone?".
I do think the current dating culture can swing back but like you said - by the time it happens it’s too late for most men today. I feel bad for young guys today - I at least got to experience a ‘normal’ dating culture on the 90s
Relationshits between men and women are redundant in 2023, at least in the West. It's really become a waste of time even discussing it. But some red pill and MGTOW channels still constantly drone on about it. It's over!
Excellent Vid. It applys to myself a bit. My Mother had too much influence raising me. My Dad was always involved with something else. Be it the Church, Bowling or Golfing. It took a long time to overcome that. One point here. I never was in the Military. But get the feeling that at least in the past the Military had a way of making a man hard that could compensate for all the softness we see now.
I think it has less to do with culture and more to do with the state of our financial system since 12/24/1913. Jobs that would normally have made a man economically viable to choose as a mate are suddenly no longer economically viable. Basically, men are getting priced out of the dating market, because wages are not going up as fast as inflation and schools have become hostile towards men and boys.
A lot of the comments I've seen on this video say that their mother didn't prepare them well for relationships, mothers don't, that's because they want their son to be a failure so he stays at home to look after her. They'd gladly ruin their sons life just so they have a bit of company in their old age, that's how selfish women are.
The problem with the proposition is that women don't raise men in the sense we consider here. Men raise men. Women mostly act as resource allocators, and one such resource is the attention of men. That is why they complain and ask men to step up. Frequently in discussions about the crisis of boys, women are unwilling to admit the catastrophe of their lead in the last decades. They often retort with the question, "where are the fathers?" I don't know how to answer that question without searching the cultural ruins of the last six decades to show them the fathers.
Men: Children needs to be raised by their father too in order to get a more balanced perspective between feminine and masculine traits. Also men: When she got pregnant I left. Got no time for that b*tch and child care.
I disagree with a shortage of good men. If there were not then men would have left the work force long ago, and initiated more divorces. Men still work the hardest jobs, and stay in marriages, statistically, thus fulfilling their societal roles. Women have left the home and became promiscuous, thus defying their societal roles in the hopes of changing their societal roles. As a 23 year old male, who talks to basically only males around my age at this point. We are a largely a mixture of young men that are either protesting this or finding themselves lost because of it. I am of the former and know many of both, some who don’t even know it. But 60% of men are single, and we control access to relationships, so its at least in part a choice, not just a consequence.
The women are truly amazing with their often rambling statements. I recently met a girl on the street. Venezuelan of origin but who lives and works in Europe. Not quite the prettiest girl I've dated but decently ok to have a chat with. In many respects, including economics, it was far below mine. In short, we go around the city for several hours, quickly pass between a laugh and more. The vibe was there, but not the best I've experienced with other girls known in the same way. Very carefree and before saying goodbye I ask her to exchange numbers but she tells me she was only willing to give Instagram which I really can't accept at that point. Now the thing itself makes me rather smile (there is no substantial difference between IG and whatsapp eventually) but if I liked her so much what would we be here to comment? The incredible thing is that they always start with the assumption that you only want to take them to bed. If she had told me we weren't compatible I would have answered the same but unlike her I also like meeting people to have them as friends. Really embarrassing😅
When standing up to the Empire's lies and intimidation, I also look for fellow men who can stand up to the psychological warfare targeting western civilzation
I think its more of the pathetic weak older generations who, along with throwing the country down the toilet, were weak, spoiled men who failed to raise us properly.
These vices are cope for boys who don’t have access to real growth and life opportunities. Our society offers nothing to men and then seeks to exploit their potential and loneliness for profits and control
A good man is (1) a man who supports his kids ( this means spending your money on them not buying yourself expensive toys ) also works a full time job with health and dental benefits and has life insurance in case he dies prematurely (2) pays his taxes, (3) doesn't use illegal drugs, (4) doesn't become an alcoholic, (5) doesn't gamble his money away on lottery tickets or going to the casino with his buddies (6) doesn't beat his wife or his kids, (7) doesn't sit on the couch after work, playing video game or watching TV, ignoring his wife and kids, (8) Doesn't cuss and swear, (9) doesn't teach his kids hate and racism, (10) doesn't cheat on his wife, (11) teaches patriotism and love for his country, (12) teaches his children about respect for the veterans and the people who died in wars. This is super important to start listing out what a good man is, pointing fingers at who you think is to blame solves nothing.
My understanding is that women are increasingly out competing men, e.g. education, higher salaries in their 20's, dominating the intake of the professions (e.g. law, medicine, PhD research, etc). While men are being consumed by their screens, e.g. OF, P Hub, YT, gaming, etc. I can only see this gap continuing to increase as more and more women prefer to be single, focus on their career, and not have to worry about children, etc. We are already seeing this trend in Japan.
Colleges and culture in general are literally hostile to men - Thanks to DIE policies (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity), Men, more specifically competent White Males are routinely discriminated against in college and the job market. Society will pay for this movement AWAY from Meritocracy…
The problem with women asking about "good men" is that what they say they want in a man and what they actually go for don't align. Letting society i.e. women define what a good man is, is a huge mistake.
Women are MASSIVE HYPOCRITES!
Letting women lead is a huge mistake
The problem with the phrase "good men" is that it implies by default that men aren't good, and therefore we have to differentiate the "good men" from the bad men. It's shallow reductionist thinking.
correct, look at all the single older women or single mothers in their 30's or older who picked the wrong man based on their feelings. That number will continue to grow.
@@joseph6243 it's more of shifting blame to men. Where are all the accountable women?
My mother told me all she wanted was to raise a "perfect, good little boy."
This is the problem.
Being a "good boy" only works for dogs.
It doesn't work for competing with other men for jobs, women, and aggressively planning and pursuing a goal. Women think that because being nice and charming gets THEM the things that they want, they think it works the same for men.
No.
Being well-behaved will only lead a man to harmlessness, niceness, and mediocrity. Dr. Robert Glover articulated this wonderfully in "No More Mr. Nice Guy".
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Yup schools teaches us this too. Being nice, courtesy, respectful and etc only works because children are easier to control and teach. I never knew about it until I read dr glovers book.
I have NEVER gotten laid or gone on dates for being nice and behaving good like a good little dog.
They will tell husbands to be “good boys”, and they might as well mean it at some level (makes him a good provider), but if he does as told, she’ll only dry up down there and cheat with Chad.
Well, one possibility simply is that 'good men' have gone off 'crazy, entitled women', right? This one, as good as he may be, certainly has. And he is waiting for a 'good enough woman' to show herself.
Correct. Fight club is right
, women can't raise a man that women want.
Many mothers will clip their sons wings out of convenience and solipsism. We have almost three generations of broken boys and men thanks to feminism
So true. My mom was telling me I'd make a special lady very very happy one day.....while she was hooking up masculine losers.
Yes and no.
Yes they break men until their first-two- three breakup but after these events, you, as a man, have to wake up by your own mean.
It won't be the fault of the feminism if men are broken and simping past 30 years old.
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn.
This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. Atleast she and the kids will have peace without any ab*use (due to alcohol or p*orn and what not). Keeping these men in the home is harmful to the woman and her kids. For one, it could teach the children incompetence at a very young age. Also, it is a fact that the most vio*lent crimes are commi*tted by males and most of the vict*ims are other men. We often hear stories about males ending their own kids and the wives. Women who choose better will always be single over these types of men.
To be fair, I notice a lot of fathers doing the same to their daughters by encouraging them to be strong and independent or to focus on college and career before thinking of settling down. I think both mothers and fathers unconsciously want their children of the opposite sex to not be attractive, whereas they will have no problems helping children of their same gender to be attractive. I would guess this is because of feeling like they hold a special place that will be replaced if their children find a mate, so for example, the mother is the most important woman in her son's life until he has a girlfriend, and the same with fathers.
That seems preposterous
Today, they're called 'nice guys'. A couple of generations ago, they were called 'husband material'.
Generations ago they were valued. They were my male ancestors.
I've always loved nice, wholesome men.❤
@@MsLotusBlooms women all say that.
@@MsLotusBloomsHave you married and stayed with one?
It's the same....
Single mothers destroyed generations of men because they raised them to be compliant and serve the woman’s needs and not their own. Coach Greg Adams calls these guys son-husbands which is spot on
My parents were not divorced but I got raised this way for sure
It’s hard to say men abandon their children when 70-80% of divorces are initiated by women.
Further, women want the alpha’s seed knowing full well he has other options. The pregnancy is used as a control mechanism which fails. Women go on to manipulate the alpha’s child into becoming compliant to her and serving her which is something she could never get from the alpha himself. This is far more insidious.
@@Lilith-9223 Project much?
@@Lilith-9223 what do you mean by "men"? Are you alluding to the transfolx?
@@Lilith-9223 Firstly, the problem with women like you is that they prefer to please themselves over susteinance of a relationship and even children. This is what causes women to file for major majority of divorces. "All about me and my feelings"
Secondly, women control access to physical intimacy. They literally choose whom to have babies with, unlike majority of men.
Do you see how wrong you are in saying that its men's fault that the families break?
My mom was afraid of men and so she made sure to reward all of my feminine qualities and not the masculine ones. Also I didn't grow up with a father passed age 4. This is how it happens, folks!
My father worked on oil rigs and was gone one month then home one month all the way up until my 21st birthday when he passed away unexpectedly from a fall and head injury.
So I feel like I was raised completely by my mother. I get where you are coming from. I don't know how to manage money. I don't necessarily care to make a lot of money, and have not been in a relationship since age 15. I just turned 37 and at times still feel lost and helpless.
@@15751Chris Schools should be teaching how to manage things including money.
It's too bad so many of them get taxpayers money for being worthless.
Atleast your mom took care of you. Dont be ungrateful. Your father should have chosen better.
@Jim Long if they did that people would actually be slightly financially literate, we all know that's not what they want. It's better to have uneducated consumers, the school system is still designed to churn out good worker drones.
@Manifest I'm not trying to be ungrateful, I'm simply trying to point out not having a 2 parent household has made me not able to stand up for myself, I still have trouble saying no to people because I can't get away from being a people pleaser, and growing up without a strong father figure in my life is causing me issues to this day.
I know it's my responsibility as an adult to fix them. But even now I have so much indecision, and lack of confidence I don't know what to do with my life as a 37 year old man.
The destruction of male only spaces has been a terrible blow for young men learning how to become men. There is barely anywhere men can relax and just be normal away from some controlling woman.
I miss the men only gyms. Yes, we used to have them.
For the men's only spaces hit the boxing gym, cigar lounge, or spaces that are based in Latino culture.
Look into Freemasonry! Visit lodges, find the men you want to hang with. Consider joining
My son and I did Boy Scouts before the girls were allowed to join.......it was one of those spaces and one of the BEST ever for early teenage young men......Not anymore
@@user-vi4fy5zl3z Seen it firsthand myself, all the hungry eyes staring at me as soon as i walked in the door. Said hello to some of my former friends and scout mates, then noped the eff out.
Mom tried to make me a simp and my dad lived by “happy wife happy life”
tragic
That’s tragic. A woman can never raise a boy to be a man. It just isn’t possible
Sad....
Same as my upbringing pretty much. My father was completely emasculated by my mother, and I got raised in a very feminine, non-aggressive and non-assertive way. Every bit of masculinity was shamed in me when I started to hit puberty. So all the healthy masculinity things I should have learned at the time I had to teach myself later in life, as I was punished for exhibiting any of it and was similarly punished for attempting any individuation. Heck, they resented pretty much until they died that I had individuated - in their eyes I should've been that 'kind, nice little boy' all through my life, and they'd snap at me when they realised I wasn't. But controllers are controllers.
@@EE12CSVT That's called an enmeshment family dynamic. They don't want you to be your own man, like you're just an extension of them. It's very toxic and narcissistic. I had the same experiences growing up, but it was a bit different for me as my family is extremely religious, so they used the guise of spirituality to hide how sinister the whole thing is.
“Where have the good men gone” = “I hit the wall a long time ago and I am still in denial.”
Women face a serious congitive dissonance. On one side they feel power-starved due to their rationalisations over our biological differences. This causes them to both consciously and unconsciously to emasculate boys, and raise them with a shame about their masculinity. And on the other they want masculine alpha males.
@@keylanoslokj1806 Correct. The first is the woman's solipsistic problem; the second part is another woman's problem. I have to wonder if this dichotomy contributes to males' madonna-whore complex? Regardless, it is making society schizophrenic.
Im so grateful to have been raised Latino in the US because we still hold onto the masculine and feminine roles without demonizing them.
@@alaunaenpunto3690 as opposed to being raised as an effeminate gringo because Americans demonize gender roles to a nauseating degree
I was just thinking that today, most of the young Latino men I work with kind of stand out with those qualities. They will be the victors of the spoils.
I consider myself a good guy. I was always rejected for not meeting wemen's expectations. Seven years ago I married a Japanese girl who I met online in TMA, a marriage agency. Today we have a six year old girl and a four year old boy. I am immensely happy with my family.
Be careful
Japanese women are known to plot out exit strategy in secret while you are blissfully happy. She can take your kids to Japan and you will have a hard time seeing them while paying for child support
So your wife does not have any expectations of you or are they just presented to you differently?
Thanks I’ve been trying for years to find a legit overseas marriage agency. Even an ai wouldn’t tell me.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 No problem. I hope you find a nice and beautiful Japanese girl.
This is a larger overall societal problem. Not just a personal one. Conditioning masculinity out of men is part of a larger direction for society. It is very dangerous and definitely needs to be addressed.
It is biblical.
Great observation. Excellent comment.
All part of the master plan. Make the men weak and who will fight back?
@@tyronevonchadley lol who cares if it's BiBLiCaL...yall religious nerds aren't helping anything
My mom did a great diservice making me super femine and accomodating and kept reminding me of benig empathetic and how important it was to be a nice guy. BIG mistake as it turned disasterous when I hit dating age. Girls who are friends are not girlfriends when you act all nice and accomodating. Coach Corey Wayne and then Redpill really opened my eyes what reality is from what I was taught.
Yip, you and a few million more have really woken up to all this over the last 5 or so years.
Once you've seen behind the curtain, there's no going back to before.
Make sure you redefine your adult relationship with your Mom and Dad. They did you wrong
My exact path with Coach Corey and on to red pilling. Had basically zero success until my thirties as a result.
@@mitchs0 CCW has turned quite anti RP. I think he observes it causes too many men to go blackpill and makes women feel unsafe since we end up with attitudes. I both agree and disagree on some level on that. But frame is really undertaught in rp where CCW. I read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" which the audiobook is on youtube. That works wonders
@@timgibney5590 Yeah, I guess I’m actually purple-pilled
"Where have all the good men gone?"
=Where are the men that offer me most benefit-and if I'm scrupulously honest-significantly more than I am able or prepared to offer that same man.
Once they hit the wall and are done with the party years they will come looking for a nice guy. Not because they like you, it's only because they can't attract CHAD any more.
Yep, and it's these nice guys that need to keep rejecting these washed up women. Keep going your own way gents. If they were too good for you in their prime, then don't save them in their decline.
Spot on.
@@brandongray1059 Most of these so called nice guys are simps. Captain save a hoe. They will keep saving these washed up hoes from actually facing the consequences of their actions. And they still won't get any respect and the woman will treat sex like a chore. It sure is tough being a simp, it's almost like a mental illness.
Women face a serious congitive dissonance. On one side they feel power-starved due to their rationalisations over our biological differences. This causes them to both consciously and unconsciously to emasculate boys, and raise them with a shame about their masculinity. And on the other they want masculine alpha males.
@@keylanoslokj1806 Women have always felt they were mentally superior to men, that's why they love to play mind games. They only feel physically inferior. Nowadays they don't even have to be at a financial disadvantage. But you're right about their cognitive dissonance. A lot of women subconsciously resent their sons, they have penis envy. They would rather sabotage their son than he grow up to be a dominant masculine man. In reality, by the time a boy is like 7 there really is nothing more he needs to learn from his mother. At that age he should spend as much time as possible around strong, wise and competent men to know what real men should behave like. Feeding off that energy and building his self esteem steadily.
It always amused and saddened me that women (especially single mothers of course) happen to be so compelled to raise their boys to be the same kind of men the mothers ignored their whole lives.
Women have become such a destructive entity in society that it's depressing.
🎯💯 exactly, mine even hated that so many wahmen loved and wanted me to clap their cheeks because I am that " perfect man" that she told wahmen to stop getting with me and sabotaged my success so as in an attempt to prevent them from finding me attractive. They truly are sick and cursed. It's OK though, God's judgment will show them just how wrong they are
almost as if our forefathers understood female nature and had strategies to keep it under control
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Your mother raised you to be the sort of man women want.
Your issue is getting your foot through the door to be able to show women you are that guy.
You have the seeds for long term success and are tossing them for the hopes of potentially a few years of easy work in getting a woman's attention.
Remember women aren't men, getting her attention doesn't equal getting or keeping a girlfriend. Getting her attention doesn't guarantee sex. The bad boy route is a fools errand. Most "hyper masculine" rappers, pretty boys and even that idiot Tate all have and would admit to being sweet to women and Simping.
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It's ironic how so many of us have a single mother parent, who raised us to be the type of man they despise.
Mothers tend to raise their sons using a standard of what their perfect men could be, whereas fathers raise their sons using a standard of what men are.
One is *idealistic* and the other is *realistic.*
I grew up being quite feminine , but now at the age of 27, I had enough and began to rebel against everything I was told was "the right thing" and never felt better.
So what is it that you do now? You don't walk around threatening/intimidating people, you don't tell women "get your pretty ass over here, toots", I assume. So what are some examples?
@@Rockownz5150 Dont hold the door for women. Walk through it first, she comes second. Dont buy her presents. Only compliment her when she deserves it. Dont be afraid to walk away. If she disrespects you and crosses a serious boundary - walk away. Hold the leverage. Don't let her move in with you without signing a common law agreement / marriage prenup. Dont pick her up all the time, if she has a car, she can drive.
Do you want me to keep going?
@@MikeyPaper These are mostly examples of (in)action when you're already in a relationship. What is it that you do then and what is supposed to make women want to be with you?
What was the response from people who knew you?
I'm guessing you are a later born of your sibling order, is that true?
Many mothers set a standard that girlfriends and wives will never meet. I based my expectations of women based on what my mother did (seemed like the logical thing to do). Once I started dating, reality struck. The narcissistic, capricious, fickle, selfish, and downright crazy behavior patterns is enough to drive any man insane.
This society is so screwed.
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn.
This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. But as usual males will lack accountability and blame women.
Same happens to me, I dont like woman personalities and the sex appealing of the majority is inexistent. So because of that im single.
Those are the ones that you’re dating. Not all of us are like that, same about men, not all men are terrible. If you noticed these patterns then nicely and securely point them out to that person to work on themselves should they choose to accept that mission.
Your lucky that you had a good mother.
The 'good men', as l consider myself to be, have grown tired of wah-men altogether. The constantly trying to please them, make and keep them happy, making everyday exciting for them, competing with the hundreds and thousands of other men on social sites. It's just not worth it anymore. I was married for 17 years until my ex thought she could 'do better', and she filed for divorce. I have remained single ever since, and she has remarried THREE TIMES since then. I have never been happier. My life is calm, peaceful and stress-free. Turns out, she did me a favor.
lol. You might think that at least her last guy should have seen the signs on the wall. I mean, what kind of idiot marries a woman who's been divorced three times???
One man's trash.........becomes another man's trash!
It always baffles my mind when they think "they can do better". Usually she's older, less physically attractive, has more baggage and is saddled with kids. What are the chances she can do better than her ex husband? Slim to none. Men greatly value looks and hers have depreciated. Men also don't want to deal with baggage and another man's kids, and she probably has both. However, these women still manage to maintain this fantasy in their minds that they can do better.
I’m not on social media, except for YT comments. The other day one of my siblings got a message on facebook from I girl I knew from school years ago. She remembered me fondly, even kept a letter I had sent her back then. She let slip that she had been married 3 times and engaged 4 times.
Yes, when I knew her she was attractive and charming. Let’s just say I passed on reconnecting.
As the Myth Mr. Milton Friedman said: " _You'll always have more of that which you create an incentive to have_ "
Tupac surprisingly had the insight after being raised by a single mum and promising himself that he wouldn't be like the other guys only to get the 'you're too nice' treatment. He called it the ultimate betrayal. And you know, i feel like it is. Society raises men to be nice, doesn't reward the behaviour and wonders why so many men become bitter about it. I'm sick of the 'WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NICE FOR THE SAKE OF IT' when my basic needs people take for granted aren't being met.
Well Tupac, like many men, started off by being “too nice” to girls in his early teens. He didn’t get any good results and several girls actually told him that he was too nice to date! So he adjusted and turned into a bad boy and boom - great results. I remember coming to this realization in my teens and it stung a bit
@@brianmeen2158 he even said that when he got successful all the women started coming after him and then he realized the ugly truth of female nature. He then became a bit of a womanizer. He also met his father when he got shot in 1994.
In a way it’s not even covert contracts like red pill hugs say it is, people are fed the idea that if you’re nice women will go for you lol
My sister once asked that question “where have all the good men gone?”
I told her stop going to the bars and dating your ex-bf’s friends and you’ll find some. Shoot she once even had 3 Mr Clark Kent’s walk right in front of her and didn’t even bat an eye at them.
One piece of the problem is that these where 3 Clark Kent's without any kind superman showing in them.
They have looked away that part of their personality into their unconscious. Sometimes they try to be superman but they don't do it in a healthy way. Instead it shows up in a unhealthy way because they can't control that part of their personality, they never learned to.
Without fail the 'good men' will be in her friend zone. But they don't give her tingles in her V unlike the men who aren't 'good'. The XX are a joke.
@@alberts4541 Yes. They don't integrate their shadow, and unless they do, it pops out in an unhealthy way.
You should ask her what a good man is. I'd like to know.
That’s a good question. I’ll ask her and make an effort to get back to you.
Much of this boils down to broken or
dysfunctional families.
In college, the "nice guys" that study hard and focus on their future are ignored by American women that are chasing the jocks and bad boys. Eventually, those "nice guys" go overseas to get a wife. As time goes on, those "nice guys" get life experience and become "good men". When those American women hit their thirties and forties, they believe all the "nice guys" are gone. The reality though, is that the American women discarded them a long time ago.
Correct, women now have that freedom and choose men based on their feeling, not on logic or practicality. In Kevin Samuel’s channel, numerous women in their 30’s hit a wall and become bitter at men and somehow turn the narrative to there’s something wrong with men. Let women continue to not be held accountable and a guy with a fancy psych degree talk about pirates and treasures.
Excellent analysis.
Spot on bro
If you go overseas for a woman, do not bring her back here. Every man I have known in my 58 years that has done so is now divorced.
@@michaelwright1602 I have seen both situations (divorces, successful marriages) with guys that brought them back. Some of the girls are just looking for a visa, but also guys with no relationship experience and not understanding dangers of hypergamy. Best option is to work, save money, retire overseas, and not bring them back.
Mothers see their boys as a retirement plan. They want their boys to be around to take care of them in their old age and will accomplish this by turning their boys into emotional dependents who will never leave and have their own lives.
Narcissist mothers also do this to their daughters, esp if the mothers married the fathers for money and they are not around. Female engineer here daughter of an evil entitled narcissist. My mother hates me because I won't be her piggy bank and won't fund her retirement lifestyle now that she's widowed, after she spent a lifetime financially supported by a man she despised.
Brutal
My mom explicitly tells me this
What's your retirement plan? Do you plan on being a dependent on the government? Government taxes the young to support the old with Social Security, this amounts to the same thing!
The sad part is such mothers do not realize that some of the positive masculine traits like self reliance, hard work, becoming competent, being competitive are critical for their sons to be able to go into the world, achieve, earn an income, be successful and ultimately take care of their mothers.
One of the worst things a single mom can say to her son in the heat of reprimanding is “You don’t want to be like your father, now DO you?”
“Well I don’t know, mom, why is he my father? Why did you choose him? 🤔 🤷🏼♂️”
Mothers are often in denial of what they’re actually attracted to in men.
Mothers have often settled for a man who is less physically attractive and less dominant than their preference, and acknowledging this causes cognitive dissonance with her family life.
In an effort to maintain sanity, she convinces herself that she’s genuinely happy with the man she settled for, and thus raises her boys to be like him.
The problem is that's subconscious: most women were not even aware of that fact before the Internet.
Not that they don't want their kids to thrive, but unfortunately one must be clear of cognitive dissonance (at least when it comes to sexual preference) to organise a sane society. Which we (men included) are just barely scraping the surface of...
Or something more sinister is at play. She raises her boys to be weak so that their father's weak genetics won't be passed on. She probably does this unknowingly, but it wouldn't surprise me if she knew.
I'm happily married for 15 years but had questions about relationships that went off the rails when I was in my twenties. Great information thank you for all this content.!
Raising a boy to be too nice is all about the comfort for a parent (obidience, not talking back etc), not what's in the child best interest. Think about that for a moment. It's selfish really.
@@c.guibbs1238 You are wrong. Only because you learn a boy to not take anything at facevalue, talk back, stand up for himself, prioritize himself, doesn't mean he has to be cruel and end up in prison. It's when a boy is being raised to be too nice, you end up with these weak people pleasers with no boundaries and spine who are really manipulative.
Absolutely! Unfortunately, this is how my parents/single mom were with me and they groomed me to be a nice guy. I was punished as a child if I expressed myself and they didn’t like what I had to say. “You better stay in a childs place!”, “only speak when youre spoken to, I didn’t ask you anything so shut up!” My parents and adult family members would say crap like this to me all throughout my childhood, so then this carried on into adulthood and I struggle with asserting myself.
Next door neighbor was a helicopter mom. Now her only son has flunked out of life. Age 33. Moved back home. Living in basement.
Never see him. Depressed. fat. No way to go through life
Yeah, they regress. Sad.😢
There’s also the fact that ‘good men’ to a post-wall woman are more interested in younger females with less sexual wear and tear from other mates.
You’re the next podcast to hit big in this field.
I think it's best to keep in mind that none of what is happening is natural progression. Everything we have been experiencing is the consequence of certain individuals trying to steer people's lives via media and state childhood "education". Someone thought and still thinks it's ok to mess with lives. We need to get to the point where people that do this sort of thing, and all that help them, are met with short drops and quick stops.
Yep the elites have indirectly brainwashed women and they have indirectly lowered mens testosterone.
Yup. Even the civil rights movement had a lot of big money families behind it. Rosa parks didnt just sit at the front of the bus because her 'feet were tired' like were all taught in elementary school lol. No, she was convinced to do that by a wealthy jewish org that told her they would cover any and all legal fees or expenses for doing the political stunt. Rosa wasnt even the orgs first attempt to get media attention. They did this not to help blacks, but to remove barriers preventing them from reaching higher levels of wealth and influence for their people. They have always been wealthy, much of that wealth gained at the expense of the common man. Today, they are less than 2% of the population, yet half of the top 1% income earners. They have almost the same population as native americans, yet there are but a few who reach the top 1%, most live in poverty. What are the results of the civil rights movements? 70% of the presidential advisors are jewish. Black welfare is at an all time high. Black abortions at an all time high. Black crime (perp and victems) at an all time high. It was never about helping them. It was always about exploitng them.
I imagine its the same for feminism. Just check Bernays.
I'm raising two daughters and I often wonder what the heck happened to boys/males? Geez, the boys seem all afraid of everything and passive, at least in my observation. It's a huge mistake to raise boys like a bunch of scared people. It's actually rather concerning to me to see teenage boys so weak. I'm all for equality for women but gosh let's not squash the male ego. We need both strong men and strong women.
Boys can literally lose their education and/or job if they take a step wrong. Those boys are right to prioritize their own future and well being WAY higher than impressing you and your daughters.
Have you considered the media and justice system keeping guys on eggshells too?
I was raised by step father from 5 to 12, I’m so thankful my mom let him show me masculinity by hanging out with him, how to cut wood, work on vehicles , drive a stick at 9, motorcycle at 6, be a fun “dad” yet disciplined me also!! Now I have raised three great men in their 20’s all with careers , 2 own homes, and one owns a rental, and sweet submissive wives/ homemakers, 2 grandsons and 2 more in the womb.
It’s when we get the natural order wrong that screws up society, ( hence gender bending) It’s not rocket surgery, it’s all in the “Book”, the manual of life( instructions for a happy life) .
i had the opposite. he hated me and would not teach me anything life changing. nothing of good value to live. but then i later found out he was a freemason or some secrete society that i cannot see.
Why do the wives have to be homemakers for them to be classed as successful ? 🤨
@@r.1.336 Why is investing your time serving a boss solely interested in your utility to his company that superior of a pursuit, when that same dedication could be channeled into creating a warm and loving family environment that nurtures the full potential of your children with the man you actually love?
"Where have all the good men gone?"
They're in your 20s where you left them - The Godfather Rollo Tomassi
All hail the godfather
The better question is, "Where did all the good women go?"
Good women can find good men, but poor quality/bad women struggle with it. I have never seen a woman worth having a relationship with ask that question.
there are some women who are too kind hearted and see the best in everyone. I have friends like that who go all in and are great women but they cant see the signs when someone is using them as a placeholder or not that interested. I think its unfortunate all around
Where did all the good men go? If you gotta ask, you're the problem.
Did you really think that there would be zero consequences to telling entire generations of young boys that they're toxic, their natural sexuality is shameful or harmful, and if they want to be good men, they'll shut up, get out of the way, and let women handle everything?
Did you think you could blame all the sins of the past on men and masculinity (while conveniently omitting that it was men who gave their lives, in the millions, to put a stop to them) and there would be zero consequences at all?
Did you actually think that you could discriminate against boys and men from kindergarten all the way through to university, and there would be no negative effects? Same question for the entirety of the white collar workforce - and I'm sure blue collar would follow if anybody but men actually wanted to do hard work, but they don't.
Society has enthusiastically turned marriage and family life into the legal equivalent of a minefield, where a man's house, his life savings, and his children belong to him right up until his wife says those three magic words: "I'm not happy." Then he loses all of them. Did you actually think you could get away with doing this, and there would be no repercussions whatsoever?
And what really, really gets under my skin - to anyone who's asking this ridiculous question as if they've been living under a rock since the 60s: how come you never objected to the psychological and emotional abuse of boys that has been going on for decades until you realized that it meant a certain proportion of women wouldn't be able to find a boyfriend they thought was good enough for them?
Telling boys how awful they are, telling them they're toxic, telling them they're ists and phobes and bigots, calling their own natural urges and feelings harmful and contributing to a culture of mistreatment, blaming them for history's darkest sins ... All of this was perfectly acceptable, to traditionalists and feminists alike, for decades and decades and decades - right up until men weren't exploitable anymore. Right up until men stopped funding the scam that is college. Right up until men stopped caring about work and started paying fewer taxes. Right up until men said they weren't getting married anymore, and anyone who has a problem with that knows exactly where they can stuff it. Right up until men weren't as rich or as prestigious as women think they deserve. Now it's a problem.
So, in every single sense of the phrase: if you gotta ask, you're the problem. If you want the dog to stay on the porch, you have to pet him once in a while. If all you do is kick, hit, and scream at him, then don't act like you're confused when he runs away.
Yes, in today's toxic western society, it is tough to raise sons to be respectful, responsible and resilient adult men. Definitely worth all the struggle and sacrifice though!
Preach!!
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn.
This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. And when there is no competence obviously males will lag behind.
Women face a serious congitive dissonance. On one side they feel power-starved due to their rationalisations over our biological differences. This causes them to both consciously and unconsciously to emasculate boys, and raise them with a shame about their masculinity. And on the other they want masculine alpha males.
@@keylanoslokj1806 not really. Most women level up as much as they can. Then they want to meet a masculine man on their level or much above them. But the biggest thing is, he shouldn’t be a douc*he bag. He shouldn’t have to*xic masculinity traits like being a f*uck boy always chasing sk*irts, being aggressive, putting down other men for no reason, measuring his success only with female validation (like locker room talks) and so on.
There's a scene in the movie "Mosul" Where the captain asks the main character Kawa when his father died. He says when he was young, and asks the captain how he knew his father was dead. "You're far too nice. Stop thanking me all the time." I felt called out. Kawa was watching everyone else, letting them decide how things were happening, letting everyone around him make decisions that affected his life. At the end of the movie he discovers the reason his group is fighting and makes the decision to keep fighting himself.
Good post
Thanks Doc. I think US society has peaked in abundance and mental illness. The current generation carries on like a bunch of French aristocrats around 1790, who lived for sensation, thrills and degeneracy. That cohort group didn't last long on the evolutionary scale.
Believe me being nice in a 6 year relationship I was deeply connected to her...everything matched..talked over hours ,months,but ultimately without sex at the end..when asked she was shocked that such a nice guy could talk to her like that..thats the irony of being nice....even your GF wont expect sex all of a sudden.There is a thin boundary between being able to do sex and look bad to her eye,,,so being overly nice you can not pass her boundary suddenly and she will feel assulted... so moderetly nicewith somewhat cocky with confidence is a great help achieving romantic realtionships.Too nice and clingy needy behaviour drive women away....
Women See you either as loving romance or as sexual pleasure. At least in modern days. It is the female mind that is confused and cannot accept both in the same man
@@markfennell1167 I disagree. The best sex is when both partners love each other. Obviously "Too nice and clingy needy behaviour drive women away...."
Excellent comment.
Excellent point. If you really connect and bond with them it's hard for them to understand you want to screw them in the ass while pulling their hair.
Yes, sir. To modern women, you are either the sexy Chad she wants to have children with or the simp Beta she wants to raise children with. You can't be both.
The Good Men are looking for Good Women; of which there are VERY FEW left. Why are we asking where all the Good men are when there are so few good women.
"Where have the good men gone?
Away from you!."
-An Ear for Men.
The older I get, the more I appreciate the wisdom in the movie Fight Club. Just drop out of this sick society.
Except that's bullshit. If you don't like society, you fight to change it. You don't drop out of it, that's a pussy retreatist attitude.
"Good men" typically convey a sense of independence, competence, responsibility and that "the buck stops with you" (all of which should automatically translate into the much vaunted "confidence"). A good sense of humor is the icing on the cake if you can muster it.
Lets make one thing perfectly clear. Women are not asking "Where are all the good men?" for the children they want to have. They are asking that to PAY for the children they ALREADY HAVE!
They went after bad men and found out.
A man without boundaries will create them for himself. A woman without boundaries will destroy everything in her path.
It took me a while to figure this out. I was raised by my Mom but also fortunately had several masculine brothers.
When they were violent and aggressive and I was the subject of their abuse, I convinced myself that I never wanted to show aggression. What I didn't realize until later is that them being abusive was a separate trait from masculinity. So my 20's were sometimes rough with women. I either ended up with women who wanted to be in charge of me (which even I knew wouldn't work), or I banged my head against the wall wondering what was wrong because women were dating jerks and coming to me after. My late 20's were much better. I learned that women are even more biologically programmed than men are because they generally don't use logical and rational thought. Whereas a man can be conditioned to be more submissive because they do. Women who aren't submissive are not using logical, rational thought though. They are doing what society is telling them to do based on a vocal minority, but on the outside. On the inside they still crave the masculine man to lead them and hold them accountable.
I don't put up with any of their crap now and call them out all the time. Women WANT men to have a backbone! And you can actually do it in a respectful way. Establish the boundaries for the relationship and the consequences for crossing those boundaries early on, and just like with children or animals you need to follow through with those consequences if they violate the boundaries they agreed to, or they will never respect you. Sure they'll pretend they're outraged sometimes, but almost every time I've done this with a woman they have not only gotten back in line but ramp up their efforts sexually. The other times they didn't comply I sent them on their way. It's a win win. Just for being a man!
Men hate boundaries. Didn't you know? That's why prisons are full of them
Bang on Brother.
There is a clear difference between abusive behaviour and Masculinity...
Same realisation for me, roughly around similar timeframes as you experienced...
Knowing the difference between that abuse, and other forms of play, sport, healthy challenges/competition is vital for men...
It's good to hear your new perspective on dating and relationships as well, and how your experiencing the change - that it is positive for yourself, and those who are with you...
That helps me in my own way.
Cheers
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It mostly comes down to one thing: Owning up and taking responsibility. If a person can do that, they are immediately more attractive, no matter their gender. And with the rise of helicopter parents and participation trophies, parents have made more and more sure, that their child doesn't face harsh consequences for their actions.
I love comments like this women do not possess agency they do not they do not they do not they do not they do not no matter how much you talk about it no matter what you say you cannot take a computer and make it system have dose when it is Windows do you understand
Women are designed by Nature to toot that behind up in the air and let Chad rail it until it's full of baby batter and make a child
One thing which is ignored is that most men have issues with regulating pleasure sensory activities. Most men are easily inebr*aired by all sorts of distractions. That is why most of the issues disproportionately affect men much more than women- p*orn addiction, video game and sports addiction, social media addiction (how else do th*ots make money), alcoholism, substance abuse and so much more. Even blaming women is a drug. Most men are directionless and lazy. And they are unteachable too. That is why it is easy for men like Andrea T*ate to make them simp for him and his th*ots. Good men who are solid and achievers are boring for most men. Even if such men teach them something, they will never learn.
This is one of the reasons that men are lagging behind in productivity, education and the workforce. For women, it is better to be single than dealing with these men. And as usual males will lack accountability and whine about women all day long.
Ladies, you can't cease to be a good, traditional woman and cry when you can't find a good, traditional man. If there are no good men, it's because the Western mothers failed to raise them. You made this bed, now sleep in it. I moved to Mexico where traditional women still exist, and I LOVE IT.
This problem has to do the most with the child's socialization and how children are raised. Stepfathers and mothers do not always teach the same things that fathers teach, and there is a big discrepancy in the amount of discipline given to children by good fathers as opposed to a single mother or stepfather. The breakdown of the nuclear family is a big deal. I think we've lapsed in teaching godly virtues and have become worse as a society over successive generations as a result.
Often stepfathers aren't allowed to discipline as they would their own and kids just resent them more when they try since they're not the real dad, as they put it.
Whenever I hear a woman ask this question, I want to say, "They're hiding from YOU."
Good men are still here living good lives. Every once in a while, good men venture to online dating, send out a few friendly introductory messages, and are completely ignored. Women don't even want to find out if they are good. So the good men say "stuff this" and get back to living good lives.
Stop using online rubbish dating apps. There are many ways of meeting great woman in real life.
@@gottrekk5798 Using technology is part of real life. If it were that simple, no man would try online.
@@BC-wj8fx approaching women for the purpose of a friendly conversation is very easy. All you need is a little bit of practice and some knowledge.
@@gottrekk5798 That's 100% true, but what if you ACTUALLY don't want to be friends with women? What if your main goal is to get a nice girlfriend? Won't starting a friendly conversation with a woman give of "friend vibes" then, like she would think "hey, this guy seems like good friend material!" ?
@@Robin-Paul the purpose of a friendly conversation is to minimize the chances of rejection. Basically, with some experience, you can determine if it makes sense to ask for her phone number. The next meeting you go for the kiss, this is the point to distinguish friendship from dating. Friends don't kiss. If she's avoiding the kiss then it's very likely game over, it's time to focus on another girl.
Wow. Another home run. Well said. I hope this channel goes exponential without compromising or getting a time out from big mama.
Im gonna comment to get your videos out there. They make sense, and thats desperately needed in these times.
Funny how sh!tty women complain about good men not wanting to commit to them.
Hey! Now … why would a good man not like my many tattoos, nose ring, and navel jewellery that’s always on display? And why wouldn’t they find my smoking alluring and drinking top shelf sophisticated? Wouldn’t you give an arm and a leg to take me to a 3 star Michelin restaurant? And the chance to sprinkle me with bling to show my friends?
What’s wrong with you?
Selfish, you are. Probably a dusty, too … etc., etc., … 😮
Great video Dr Taraban! As a Man Mom, we wish to raise competent, self reliant men. Consistently checking my own beliefs in rearing boy children is a necessity. The boy outstripping me helps me to understand where he is in life and then nurture that trait with age appropriateness. Where have all the good men gone? They are currently working on themselves to be better citizens, husband's and fathers
The best thing you could do I step aside after he reaches age 7. After that only show him what it's like for a wahman to nurture a man and respects a man. Help him to achieve the goals HE and God have planned, NOT the plans YOU have for him. My narc mom sabotaged my father's entire family and drove him to an early grave because she did NONE of what I just described to you.
Finally I wish you always keep in mind that God will judge everyone based off their intentions so think wisely about the games you try to play on your son and your husband. Best of luck.
@@rppope1006 just a wax. No bullets accepted. Thanks for your input.
@@33asiamonet33 I'm not sure I understand the comment. Could you elaborate please
@@rppope1006 all of your "you" comments
Didn't apply to me, so I just expounded that you were putting your two cents in on my comment
@@33asiamonet33 if nothing I said is of any use to you then congrats you have already failed your son. So I will see my way out. Take care
“Where are all the good men dead? In the heart or in the head?”
This is so true
I never got the girls I actually liked. Meanwhile, the girls I couldn't care less if they exploded in front of me are writing me love letters and buying me dinner.
Lmao if a woman said something like this you would call her out so hard 🤣
@Quincy Your entire comment is "Just be confident".
Can you explain more on “be the man”?
Sure!
In my experience you need to develop "Oh a butterfly!" Energy as in:
If this girl were to get up and leave at this very second would you
A. Be heartbroken
Or
B. Not really care and enjoy the sight of a nice butterfly?
There's not 2 sets of women: regular women and the women you're attracted to.
There's 1 set of women: regular women some you might have feelings for
It's less about "Just be confident" and more Just be comfortable
If being your regular self has they're attention stay your regular self.
Don't become Mr. Fixated on her because you think you're in love that will ruin things faster than actively being a jerk.
Women aren't Gods nor God's gift to earth. They're regular people
Just be good company, make them smile, feel good and things work out from there
@Quincy what absolutely stupid advice. "Just tap into your masculinity bro." Tf? Imagine the inverse, "tap into your inner goddess!" See how stupid that sounds?
The problem isn't good men, it's good men getting into bed with bad people. You have to protect your own interests above all other concerns. Women who are not my wife are not prospective romantic interests. Women who are not my friend are not potential wives. This mindset where guys are always seeking companionship and connection has to end. Be one with your loneliness and be at peace in it, or you can't deal with others properly anyhow. Attraction is irrelevant. Be smart. Be wise.
I've worked on a college campus for 25 years. I'm staff, not faculty and so go unnoticed or ignored by most people. I have a fly on the wall view of things which is kind of objective because I don't really interact with the students. The girls are more masculine. The boys are more effeminate. The trans people are growing. It's a brave new world and I'm not sure it's going to work out well for anyone.
Just started listening to your videos a few days ago. Your way of delivering the topics is really good and explained well. Keep helping us specially the good nice guys. The today women want everything.
"We were a generation of men raised by women; I'm not sure another woman is what we need." ~Tyler Durden (Fight Club) Being obedient doesn't necessarily mean being good. Good is not always nice. I tell my three beautiful sons all the time; men do hard things! Love the way you describe the dynamics between men and women! It has taught me so much!
If you're going to quote it at least do it properly .
"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."
My son is 6 months old. My wife and I are already aiming at how we can help him become a strong, virtuous man.
Become a strong virtuous man yourself! Then you can teach him.
The good men didn't go "gone." Good men weren't wanted. Women wanted the bad boys and got them.
The good men quit playing the game. The good men traveled to other countries to find better women. The good men became the bad boys that were so wanted and never turned back. So ladies, I learned womaneze and what you're really saying is, "where are the bad boys who will simp for me?" I'm sorry to say ladies, that man does not exist.
We are right here, where we always were: being ignored, dismissed, and used. You ladies wanted the bad boys, so you got em, and now you think we don’t exist. We do, it’s just that we have been burned so bad we refuse to put ourselves in a position to be burned again and lose everything in the process. It is up to you to fix this, not us. We haven’t changed. We are still the men you always say you want, but you still fall for Chad and then get ghosted and hurt. Stop chasing the chads and recognize a good man or face never ending drama.
It is crucial for women to pick men who will be great fathers. I don't think I could raise my son to be man. He is little now but someday he will look up to his father and learn from him.
If women say they want pleasant, generous, committed men but then their actions clearly show they don't actually desire them, how am I supposed to respect women as a group? How am I supposed to feel empathy towards them when they choose to date psychopaths, narcissists, abusers because they bring them excitement, and then they get burnt?
Women don't owe me anything and I'm generally genuinely interested in their wellbeing but this is stuff is tiring.
Single mothers don't arm their sons sufficiently well enough to deal with Women in the real world , I speak from experience, I had it sorted by 21 though and have been VERY successful with women since , chiefly by reversing all of my Mum's advice and that of other female family members.
This video settles it...I strongly suspected it but this clears it up. Dr Orion is redpilled, thank God and thank you Dr Orion for your content and constant contribution. I`ve been a subscribed for a while but this cemented it for me.
Who are we supposed to marry doc? These young ladies body-count are in the hundreds are we supposed to have a relationship and marriage or a child with something like that guaranteed disaster in the future guarantee failure
Passport bro
@@srikrishnavasanth3895 I believe you are right I can't imagine being treated the way I'm supposed to unlike the way American women treat quality men oh yeah and I'm not ugly not fat and not broke
Simply put: marry someone who plays their position, while you play yours.
I think the problem in western society is that women "want it all" and believe they deserve it simply because they want it. They want financial independence, but they want a man to "take the lead" They want to be treated as equals (whatever that means) but they want to be adored. They want a man who's loyal and will stick around, but either consciously or unconsciously have other men waiting in the wings "in case things don't work out"
Doc said it wonderfully in a different video: having specific incentives is not a good or a bad thing. It's just reality. The sooner we accept reality, the sooner we heal from trauma, the sooner we get what we want, and the sooner we can make healthy decisions.
Marry someone who has no illusions about what reality is, and have no illusions about what it is you're looking for.
@@tonydiesel3444 the only cure is proper female role models which doesn't happen anytime soon or marry the person who is not delusional and trust them on a emotional level.
Note- never portray your feelings with whom you don't have an emotional connection.
Just a quick message of appreciation for you content which has adding ti my life. I’ve been listening to your videos while driving to and back from work. Thank you!
What is a 'good man' in this context? What behaviours would/should a man exhibit to be considered 'a good man'?
A guy with lots of sixes: Over six feet tall, six figure income, six pack, and willing to take care of her six kids with six different guys.
As a 54-year-old man who has never been married and has no children, being raised as a nice boy was no helpful.
Maybe next time I can get reborn into an asshole and be the guy who brakes all the rules and makes it. I just can't be bothered to care. Being a good person is detrimental.
Not even “good person” just being soft
"Where have all the good men gone...long time passing..."
We need to get the government out of the bedroom business. Meaning
No child support.
No spousal support.
No wealth redistribution.
This would bring back personal responsibility, like back in the 1880s when the divorce rate was around 1.3% over a lifetime.
Bingo.
Exactly. Child support and alimony is like the state handing out free hookers and wondering why men don't marry.
No, because laws are written for the irresponsible. Responsible honorable men will want to be fathers to their children. Most men aren't responsible, thus laws are written to protect women and children, who are biologically more irrational and illogical.
@MilanElan wrong.
So what you're saying is that you want to trap women in marriages, even when it's a bad marriage. Men will benefit because they won't even have to be decent because she can't leave. The result will be that women will see the trap for what it is, and not marry or reproduce with you. Good luck.
All the Good Men are smart enough to stay away from the toxic and entitled women so prevalent in society today.
Being a Man is like
Being a Soldier.
Knows how to be violent but uses for his duty.
sometimes you have to confront your own partner.
My own mother was an empty shell and sociopath. I guess I never learned to self validate learning to move throughout life in a healthy manner because I was too busy being trauma bonded too have emotional development.
This comes up a lot in manosphere YT videos and usually devolves into a reductive debate of whose fault the situation exists. Doctor, that reference to culture disappearing after three generations is a concept worth repeating. Not only does it give insight into how we got to where we are now, it also gives hope that the pendulum can swing in another direction in three generations until there is an eventual social homeostasis where the s3xes can be more cooperative....unfortunately I will be long dead and gone when this occurs. However, it will bring to fore the axiom that men and women are actually better together...instead of what exists right now, wherein no one is actually happy...else, why the refrain "Where have all the good men gone?".
I do think the current dating culture can swing back but like you said - by the time it happens it’s too late for most men today. I feel bad for young guys today - I at least got to experience a ‘normal’ dating culture on the 90s
Relationshits between men and women are redundant in 2023, at least in the West. It's really become a waste of time even discussing it. But some red pill and MGTOW channels still constantly drone on about it. It's over!
If we restrict the franchise, we can get it done in 1 gen.
Better headline would be: "Where have all the GULLIBLE MEN gone?"
Excellent Vid. It applys to myself a bit. My Mother had too much influence raising me. My Dad was always involved with something else. Be it the Church, Bowling or Golfing. It took a long time to overcome that. One point here. I never was in the Military. But get the feeling that at least in the past the Military had a way of making a man hard that could compensate for all the softness we see now.
I think it has less to do with culture and more to do with the state of our financial system since 12/24/1913. Jobs that would normally have made a man economically viable to choose as a mate are suddenly no longer economically viable. Basically, men are getting priced out of the dating market, because wages are not going up as fast as inflation and schools have become hostile towards men and boys.
Thank you. I have learned a lot from this video....
God bless you 🙏
A lot of the comments I've seen on this video say that their mother didn't prepare them well for relationships, mothers don't, that's because they want their son to be a failure so he stays at home to look after her. They'd gladly ruin their sons life just so they have a bit of company in their old age, that's how selfish women are.
Bingo.
Yeah I've seen it in the black community son husband
Yup. This is also why they'll exhibit vitriol towards every woman he dates.
Son-husband
Just found you on the tube. Watched lots of vids. I think you're the best teacher out there. Thanks for your hard work. I have learned a lot.
The problem with the proposition is that women don't raise men in the sense we consider here. Men raise men.
Women mostly act as resource allocators, and one such resource is the attention of men. That is why they complain and ask men to step up.
Frequently in discussions about the crisis of boys, women are unwilling to admit the catastrophe of their lead in the last decades. They often retort with the question, "where are the fathers?"
I don't know how to answer that question without searching the cultural ruins of the last six decades to show them the fathers.
All the good men have gone to ask "Where have all the good women gone?".
Oh well, we'll wait until they come back.
There are good men out there, they just don't want these nasty 304's.
Hello, Dr. Thank you for your work. I have really appreciated everything you have been doing.
Men: Children needs to be raised by their father too in order to get a more balanced perspective between feminine and masculine traits.
Also men: When she got pregnant I left. Got no time for that b*tch and child care.
😂😂
One of your best videos. Thankyou Dr Orion
I disagree with a shortage of good men. If there were not then men would have left the work force long ago, and initiated more divorces. Men still work the hardest jobs, and stay in marriages, statistically, thus fulfilling their societal roles. Women have left the home and became promiscuous, thus defying their societal roles in the hopes of changing their societal roles. As a 23 year old male, who talks to basically only males around my age at this point. We are a largely a mixture of young men that are either protesting this or finding themselves lost because of it. I am of the former and know many of both, some who don’t even know it. But 60% of men are single, and we control access to relationships, so its at least in part a choice, not just a consequence.
Great breakdown 💯
The women are truly amazing with their often rambling statements.
I recently met a girl on the street. Venezuelan of origin but who lives and works in Europe. Not quite the prettiest girl I've dated but decently ok to have a chat with. In many respects, including economics, it was far below mine. In short, we go around the city for several hours, quickly pass between a laugh and more. The vibe was there, but not the best I've experienced with other girls known in the same way. Very carefree and before saying goodbye I ask her to exchange numbers but she tells me she was only willing to give Instagram which I really can't accept at that point.
Now the thing itself makes me rather smile (there is no substantial difference between IG and whatsapp eventually) but if I liked her so much what would we be here to comment? The incredible thing is that they always start with the assumption that you only want to take them to bed. If she had told me we weren't compatible I would have answered the same but unlike her I also like meeting people to have them as friends. Really embarrassing😅
When standing up to the Empire's lies and intimidation, I also look for fellow men who can stand up to the psychological warfare targeting western civilzation
Way to protect the developing young men!!!! 😍
Whooooo whooooo! Whoooooo!
Frozen pizza, fortnite (video games in general), pornography, and vaping made these young men soft
I think its more of the pathetic weak older generations who, along with throwing the country down the toilet, were weak, spoiled men who failed to raise us properly.
These vices are cope for boys who don’t have access to real growth and life opportunities. Our society offers nothing to men and then seeks to exploit their potential and loneliness for profits and control
Feminism made women butch
A good man is (1) a man who supports his kids ( this means spending your money on them not buying yourself expensive toys ) also works a full time job with health and dental benefits and has life insurance in case he dies prematurely (2) pays his taxes, (3) doesn't use illegal drugs, (4) doesn't become an alcoholic, (5) doesn't gamble his money away on lottery tickets or going to the casino with his buddies (6) doesn't beat his wife or his kids, (7) doesn't sit on the couch after work, playing video game or watching TV, ignoring his wife and kids, (8) Doesn't cuss and swear, (9) doesn't teach his kids hate and racism, (10) doesn't cheat on his wife, (11) teaches patriotism and love for his country, (12) teaches his children about respect for the veterans and the people who died in wars. This is super important to start listing out what a good man is, pointing fingers at who you think is to blame solves nothing.
My understanding is that women are increasingly out competing men, e.g. education, higher salaries in their 20's, dominating the intake of the professions (e.g. law, medicine, PhD research, etc). While men are being consumed by their screens, e.g. OF, P Hub, YT, gaming, etc. I can only see this gap continuing to increase as more and more women prefer to be single, focus on their career, and not have to worry about children, etc. We are already seeing this trend in Japan.
Colleges and culture in general are literally hostile to men - Thanks to DIE policies (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity), Men, more specifically competent White Males are routinely discriminated against in college and the job market. Society will pay for this movement AWAY from Meritocracy…
Fall by evil design gender-role reversal they yes they are trying to make men feminine and women masculine
So the wymyn only scholarships and gender quotas ain't a factor anymore? Men opt out because of the former instead of being the cause.
Colleges are toxic environments for men. What man would pay tens of thousands of dollars to be subjected to abuse on a daily basis?
@@Lilith-9223 not that most women are not like that, just replace porn with a bunch of Netflix and gossip reality stuff.