Hello beautiful people, here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:20 Realising the Humanity of Heroes 09:59 Current State of the Dating Market 16:38 Having Principles Over Plans 23:28 The Fear of Insufficiency 33:30 Feral Girl Summer 43:16 White Gay Privilege 54:11 How to Combat Fire-Hosing 1:05:29 Importance of Ownership 1:11:57 Where to Find Chase
@lord barking absolute truth has all the attributes we asign to god. Unchanging perfection in all eternity. Truth is tested by time, and actually only exists in eternity. This is beyond all human capability. But some things we are pretty certain about. But even those, if you’re not willing to even entertain testing it again and again. Put it to the only relevant test…. Time and that in all eternity… then you have shut your eyes. Be it a glimmer or a raging fire, truth shall evade you
You probably wouldn't listen to the you of today, when you were younger - if you TOLD yourself yhings.That's why, when teaching anything, you don't TELL, you EXPLAIN. Think about it - that's one of the major reasons, Jordan Peterson (and I) walk right into everybody's soul, when "teaching/coaching/conversing".
I remember when there were only 4 channels on television. We always found something to watch. Now I can choose from hundreds of channels, I can never find anything. I feel like dating is much the same
That’s called Choice Paralysis. When presented with many options, we are more indecisive & less satisfied with our choice when we can only choose one thing. For example, an ice cream truck pulls up & it only sells chocolate, vanilla & strawberry ice cream. You choose chocolate & feel pretty satisfied by it. Now another ice cream truck pulls up & has 100’s of flavours, now you can’t pick between which type of chocolate ice cream you want, and eventually when you do choose you are less satisfied, because you can’t stop thinking about whether or not the other options were better. It’s also why a lot of people order the same exact thing whenever they go to a restaurant, it eliminates choice & presents you with something you know you can be satisfied with.
@@silverkitty2503 that’s because entertainment & dating are not an adequate comparison, with modern entertainment you can pick whatever you want & you can watch it whenever you want. There’s no more cable tv subscriptions you need to have, cinemas you need to go to, tv channels to flick through, & streaming sites are easier to sign-up to & cancel. Whereas dating, you can only date one person at a time, the choice paralysis kicks in then.
I loved that Joni Mitchell quote, Jordan Peterson said, if you find someone boring, you’re not a good listener. I’ve been with the same person for 14 years and it’s been one of the greatest adventures of my life to experience all of the different phases of each other and myself with my life buddy, I wouldn’t trade a million shallow relationships for my one intimate friendship/partnership
Agreed. Friends are the complete replacement for the unfulfilled promises of 'family'. While some family members may become friends there is no guarantee. All that residual history, the lifelong memory stuff can't compete with a clean slate, the possibility of reinventing ourselves, the freedom of choice, etc. The test of friendship is someone who will never talk behind your back because they like you just as you are - which is hardly ever the 'work project' approach of family.
Im in my 40s and i tried online dating , and it really depressed me . The narcissism is so evident, it was overwhelming. I had done online dating 10 years ago and it was a completely different experience.
Absolutely true I'm 50..reenter dating after divorce 2011..online experience was totally different..remember social media wasn't big and everyone didn't have a cellphone
That’s exactly what it is bro. We’re living in an age of rampant malignant female narcissism. Thats not hyperbole btw. I believe that’s technically accurate. **caveat for idiots- yes of course there are narcissistic men and yes of course there’s millions of amazing, moral women.
One of the best things they never tell you about getting older as a woman is realizing the insignificance of things like ‘white feral girl summer’. I don’t need some weird trend on social media telling me how to be. Life has taught me how I *want* to be, and I’m that.
As an older single man in my autumn, I can say there is real joy in living day to day with each new day being filled with peace and quite. I think the older you get the more in tune you are with your true spirituality because you no longer feel like you have to perform as somone else thinks you should.
The irony of promiscuity is that the lucky people are those who find a single person they love and feel attracted to, not those who get to have sex with anyone they want.
@nocturnaljoe9543 do you really think holding out for the one is worse than running through a bunch of people in an endless cycle of either disappointment or emptiness?
@@liannemarie2504 You are acting like there is no way to get to know people, but to have sex with them. Trial and error is how people have always got together. Not by waiting for that one in a million person. But by trying to get to know the people around you and then making a decision. It is just that men are stuck in a negative feedback loop. Initiated by a small group and supported by women.
quite often, the same parents who instilled (or failed to!) instill values and ideas into their daughter also did so in a son. Do you men _really_ think they did a worse job on their daughter and that their sons are somehow so much better adjusted? My experiences have proved that to not be true. Women, as a general rule, are more annoying, though - they are more of a burden on others, and blame, and complain, and have more excuses for not doing this or that - but that is universal. But, men have their own set of faults that are universal and can be negative in many situations - especially in the modern era where fighting, killing, and destroying aren't as beneficial as a thousand+ years ago.
@@genkiferal7178 Lets look at some statistics. 80% of divorces filed by women. 24 million abortions in the first 6 months of 2022. 85% of all money in the US is spent by women. Women make up the majority of college graduates. Yet men still earn more money doing hard labor and trades that women refuse to do. Also most violent criminals come from single mother households, whereas single dads tend to raise successful members of society. Yeah I don't think you can just point the finger at us men this time.
@@charaznable9209 Single parents households aren't good. But, you are leaving many things out. Maybe women spend more (that stat seems sooooo wrong!) because they have kids to raise? Women are also more likely to care for elderly parents, to buy stuff for the classes they teach or for others' birthdays or other celebrations. Yes, women tend to buy too much crap, though - they buy more instead of _being_ more. As for hard labor, most of those jobs have a 40 or 50 or even 75 lb minimum to lift - stated in job ads. No, women cannot lift that much and certainly not repeatedly day in and day out. Those violent criminals form ANY home are often males and it isn't always (sometimes it is) the woman's fault that the father isn't around (though if she chose bad father material, it kinda is her fault, but that still means the male is bad, too). Single dads almost always either live with their mothers (or vice versa) or their mother plays a major role in helping to raise her son's kids. he may also get a GF to help out (like my dad often did). But, you keep playing that "Imma victim" game., okay?
Never heard of either of these guys before, but this is the exact type of conversation I'm hoping to hear when I sit down in a bar next to other people.
The original Schwarzenegger Conan film is excellent for telling a story of pushing and pushing and pushing to reach your goal. The great barbarian forged by years on the wheel of pain, goes on a journey of rage, pillaging and raiding and eventually discovers friendship, love and the power of protection through masculinity. Very old film now guys but if you've not watched it I strongly recommend you give it a go and pay close attention to Conan's total character arc. Big lessons to be learnt! ❤️
Chris: "You want to have just a couple of favorite porn videoes and stick to those." Chase: "What I want is none of that....What I want is to have a really rich and vibrant connection with my spouse." LOL. Amen my guy. Best response.
Women : fuckmen I got a vibrator.... and its better than men! So not only shaming men, but also criticizing their sexuality and prowess too. So super classy and showing us the better way of being that soft and sensitive flower women are....bahahahajajajaja
I think this explains so much about the current cultural breakdown we are having. Alot of people seem to be alone and in pain of some sort. And it's started very early. You don't have to wait to be 40 or 50 to be alone, cynical and depressed. I think this left swipe right swipe generation is finding out that you can't shortcut to a satisfying relationship. You have to do the work.
You’re so right! It’s starting so much earlier…children are lonely. Teenagers are struggling. Technology does not fix these needs. Everyone wants to blame women (or men) and it’s just not that simple and easy. Our entire environment has been polluted for years…the chemicals that are used in crops are so damaging to the animals that live in the areas where they’re used. It’s complete arrogance/stupidity to think that it would not show up in our own DNA and the future generations of children. Mental illness is rampant. Breaks my heart to see. But people don’t connect the dots.
Unfortunately, many of us lack opportunity to meet people and form natural relationship, or know-how of how to connect with people when it feels like everywhere you go today, there are potential landmines. I've been trying and praying for years at this point. Always wanted to be a gentleman, find a young lady, start a family, be committed instead of a player. Instead, little in real life, lots of ghosting on dating apps, and the few who do chat with me, I'm now too broken-hearted to connect with them properly (or they're too distant, and so I have to seriously consider long-distance moving before I can truly commit). Have always wondered if maybe I should consider a move out of country just for the sake of dating.
Astute observation 👍🏼 Not just romantic relationships either. I remember as I became an adult (18-20 or so years old) realising that I shared a 50/50 responsibility for the kind of relationship I wanted with my parents, siblings and siblings-in-law etc. I wasn’t a child anymore and it was my responsibility to uphold a standard of honour and respect in my interactions with them WITHOUT BEING ASKED. you have an entire generation of kids now, boasting online about how they’ve ‘cut off toxic family members’ because they disagree on political perspectives. It’s absolutely insane.
People who sleep around become fragmented... Like a piece of your soul is tied/attached spirituality to each and every person you sleep with. Then you expect to settle down and be with one person, but all the experiences prior, taint the relationship in a way. Defiled the soul
I was explaining this to a friend of mine who’s been with many many people. He didn’t understand why his short marriage failed and why at 50 certain things just aren’t working out.
Belief kills and belief cures. If you believe having sex with multiple partners defile your soul (whatever you take that word to mean) it will be true, For You. But not necessarily reality. You could decide having played the field to be committed to one person from this day on. A possibility, yes?
Think if most people stuck to the basics and stop being so self-obsessed they’d be fine. Have a decent satisfying job and love your family. Almost all your spiritual needs will be met just by loving your own family.
I agree. You have to know how to love your own family before you can love anyone else. How many people claim they "love everybody" and can't even get along with the people who gave them life and supported them for decades? Claim abuse/trauma for every difference of opinion and conflict growing up, etc.
@Fabian Kirchgessner if that is the case then those are what you work towards with humility as opposed to just stroking your own ego through endless validation seeking.
@Fabian Kirchgessner I’m saying it’s the thing to strive for, and to take personal responsibility as far as you can take it. If you are in a “bad” family you can do what you can to make it better, and then at the very least make sure you correct the mistake of the family you are born into by making the best of the family you create. If you don’t have a job, put your energy into figuring out how to get a job. Take baby steps if you have to. Yes, I know some people are in way worse situations than othera but then what’s the alternative than trying? Giving up and becoming a destructive member of society? There’s no option.
It's a wonderful idea, but I feel biological sexual motivation, and contemporary external elements i.e politics, media, social influence, advertising and finance make it nearly impossible. The average individuals bandwith becomes completley overloaded, broken and then conditioned. The darkest elements of the human condition coupled with the endless number of avenues someone can find supposed meaning without any ethical dicipline or moral guidance.
Hey, me too! ^_^ When I was 21 (51 now), I prayed, "Please God, as much as possible, I want to see the world the way *You* see it." He graciously obliged. It's been a hard road at times, but I don't regret the request.
@@gerrystevens9041 truth has no bottom, my friend. Even Those things we call "meaning" vanish under it's pale, relentless light. We find meaning, but that isn't Truth. Change occurs, but that isn't truth. Everything we think and feel is not truth, because it involves us subjectively. And yet at the center of all of that, truth abides.
I woke super early in the morning and felt compelled to go back and watch this entire video. I’m really glad I did. There were so many gems of thought and revelation in simple sentences. The inner being of these two gentlemen was exposed and gold fell out. Thanks guys!
I'm 35, avoided dating for years at a time while I built my company. Decided I needed to get back in two years ago and immediately met someone in person who turned out to be a narcissist. I was inept to understand the red flags from my lack of recent experience. Went through the love mirroring, slowly attacking my self image, eventual dismissal, and hoovered by her and her parents. It wouldn't end too, I had to stop acknowledging her existence, because every girl who talked to me at the farmers market, she would introduce herself to them within 30 minutes of meeting me. Mate guarded by someone who cheated on me.
"Nobody expects the spanish inquisission - or the covert narcissist". Happens to everybody, that doesn't know about them and the signs. Love bombing aso kinda is hard to not get sucked in by, especially for men, women being both the prize and the chooser...
Asked an uncle if I could live with him, says yes but I have to go to A.A. He controlled my life from day one, felt something was wrong. Then I observed the family dynamic wondered why my cousins had moved out, I had to learn to give in to a tyrant. He was also controlling a guy from A.A. by making him my sponsor and inviting him to family BBQs. Its was my intense observation that unmasked the sponsors narcissism, in the same way that I unmasked my uncle. Now I have a crazy ability to figure out who is a narcissist. Came back to live home and watched everyday tons of videos on narcissim and discovered that my cousins longtime girlfriend is also one. Then I reflected on a romantic relationship from a few years ago and again she was one. I see so clearly who is just from the power of observation. Even though I still drink and have no money I treasure the insight that's laid the foundation for a new life.
"Eaten alive" isn't the best description of the experience in my humble opinion. Had to endure online dating in my late 30's (roughly 2.5 years ago) and it was absolutely miserable, but it was more of a feeling of disgust that dating and being single had devolved into such a shitty and trashy experience. I feel like "Eaten alive" implies that you're in over your head our out of your league. I had the opposite mindset, I felt like it was below me almost with a sense of arrogance. I was embarrassed that i even had to resort to that bullshit.
Yes. Exactly what I tell people. It felt dirty and it took me a year or so to get over the shame of how I had debased myself. I even told one of my dates 'I feel like a gigolo'. She didn't understand why that was a bad thing. That's when I should have stopped.
I totally understand. I'm old enough to remember what dating was like prior to social media, dating apps, dating sites, and even the internet as we know it. Modern dating (hookup culture) is garbage, and I'm not participating in that. I'm out.
Yeah I have nothing but contempt for it also. A lot of it is just trashy as you said. I think that there are good people to be had on dating sites but you gotta look good on paper. You don’t look good on paper, especially as a dude, then good luck lol I’m not that guy. I don’t say what I say completely out of anger or because I probably wouldn’t be successful at it but because it’s just fucking sad.
Here's my experience; Early 20s, jacked and very nice looking, can play instruments and make a girl laugh etc., but with the standard Millennial problems and baggage plus some carry-on: "Christ this is awkward, and I'm not doing myself any favors thinking about it. This is... Well, I guess this is all it is, or what? Pointless chatter and I have to tune most of it out, it's so empty. But at least there's a bit of a rush. If only I had something more to bring to the table or could actually do this for serious, so I could shoot for quality. It feels physically good; I just wish I didn't have to tailor my whole come-off quite so much. Makes all the sweat and clamminess taste bad in the mouth after." Late 20s, even more jacked, got some experience and tricks and means, but still no real money or what I'd consider life goals achieved such that I'd put myself out there as something worth betting on: "Here we go again. Bla de bla de bla... Damnit. I specifically didn't pick some dating app trash, but went with someone who I bumped into doing something, and still? Come on. Oh, there was a little something original there. Can we...? Ah, no, apparently not. I mean, everyone is different and interesting in their own way, but come the hell on. I've already gotten the hand on the shoulder and this is 2nd date, so should we just skip to the bedroom? I know you're just fishing too, and you're not really interesting me, and I can tell you're counting on keeping on doing your own thing. So I'm just a dinner." Today, early 30s, slipped a little due to an injury, but now at least I have a business and Beamer and something to build on, even though I am hoping it's just going to be a step towards more: "No, we're not doing that. Had some last month, I've had a couple of baby trap attempts, couple of dates where she said something so rank that I just stood up and dropped a couple of bills and walked. Frankly, I'm bored and I've got shit to draw and pods to listen to, and you look like just another mannequin. Yeah, not getting any younger, dad already had me at seven when he was this age, but screw it. In fact, screw the whole thing. I'm just going to do the useful thing, get the money, and hope a unicorn shows up at some point. If this is what society's done to my generation, and these are people's terms, then sod it and them and I guess they'll have to go cry to their cats and wipe their own asses."
I’m a gay man as turned 50 a few months ago. I’m single as of last year after 10 years and been active on the dating scene since. It has been frustrating and weird. Sure I’m 10 years older now but people have definitely changed... for the worse! They are flaky, inconsiderate, and ill mannered in a way that didn’t exist nearly to this degree 10 years ago. I hate the current culture, the way people interact (or mostly don’t) and the general state of the world. 😩
Straight here....It is society ...I'm 61 and a Dr. Working with people all day is a huge battle to maintain your senses. I enjoy classical music, opera, ballet and art...and women think that is gay...LOL. My father was a executive for IBM and I used to go to the Met with my mom and him ...It's crazy how so many things today are labeled on to you..where as when we were young, gay guys played little league and no on cared....
Hearing this makes me so grateful for being strangely aware of it all without experience. When I met my second husband quite unintentionally. I pretty much told him, we can have dinner, I pay my own way, no touching until I can make up my mind if I know you well enough to want to know your heart. I think most people don't consider that the person you share the time with has an actual beating heart in their chest. We need to take that seriously if we want to be taken serious too.
@@meshugganator08 I believe that people don't expect love anymore. they don't expect to be loved, they don't expect to love themselves and they don't know how to love anybody else. I started my love affair with my husband with self respect and kind regard for is heart and psyche....WE are married and still having a love affair. I am thankful for our restraint. I wish other people to discover this ...it is bliss and it is real.
@@lynnehood2198 the world seems to want hedonism. I’m disgusted by it. I have given up on women and marriage. Loyalty and honesty with integrity isn’t what people want right now. Your way is the better way. They just choose not to see it
@@meshugganator08 It is ironic tho, I think some women are afraid to say... "I will not date you, (but we can visit) I will have dinner with you ( but you cannot buy my dinner- because I am your equal). I will not travel with you (...unless we marry.) I respect you (...and me) DO you? I don't want a broken heart (or to break yours) I'd rather loose you and regret it than sleep with you and lose my self respect and yours and regret that!" Hard things...all of them. People don't want to say them, or hear them. But why do people believe that a relationship can be built of casual sex? All those complexities are much harder. I believed that if I showed my hand and took the chance that he might leave...if he stayed, my bet was well placed and if he left it was still a win. Not because I did not care but because he couldn't care for me. There would be no place for me with a man like that. BUT...if he stayed and gave me the chance and time to fall in LOVE...well...now that is really something any woman or man would want. I think people now days act without courage (no heart). I hope that you find someone special and you are willing to hold out for courage...hers and yours. Relationship fail because neither partner understands self love or integrity- that leads to deliberate acts of inflicting pain. WE are not children...pain is serious outcome.
That’s why, I quit dating and focused on my hobbies and strengthening my relationships with my family and friends when , I was in my mid 20’s and couldn’t be happier!
That’s the point I’m at. I’m not actively dating anymore. I’m open to it if it crosses my path, but I’m not focusing on that at all. I just want to get back into my hobbies and things that actually make me feel good about and love myself
@@sharktiff1 I will always be open to the possibility of a relationship but if, it does not happen, I do not think, I will be too sore about it. I am usually, too busy with my language, college studies, and other passions.
when i competed in powerlifting a week ago i noticed that I couldnt get myself to a dark place and get really aggressive like I used to because my life was going good. I didnt have the anger, sadness, and rage that life gave me previously and I think it made my performance drop
find a new reason to lift, pretty sure thats why some people warn about going to the gym for the wrong reasons( for example picking up women). or zuko being taught how to properly use firebending not from a place of anger (nerd asf)
The problem is the way is not really shut because lust is stronger than regret. After a while you will open the way again. Someone above wrote people who sleep around become fragmented so such people can't really settle down with one person for life after their "bad experiences", especially women. I guess those bad experiences, or one of them, include and were bad men (dark triad) using and abusing you in the bed like a piece of meat, degrading you. The problem is, a dark part of you likes it. That part that was reigned in for a reason in the past. The uncomfortable truth. The question I am asking myself after reading such comments, what then remains for such traumatised people in this "Brave new world" (Aldous Huxley book)? For such women that abound now? Either the life of a spinster or a further way down the decadent, hedonist, pervert spiral until women are completely given over to everything we see in pron, to every dark corner of their soul and they give themselves willingly over to their lust and over to men to be their property and do with them as they please. I heard such women say in their videos "Treat us like shit, we like it." A perverts paradise (just like to old Rome). A 304 utopia that will not last. The path of righteousness or the path of wickedness. The wast majority chooses the latter now. There is a way out bot not many find it.
acknowledge that you were the idiot for invited those people into your life. I've done this and it gives me confidence that i am less likely to accept a first date with such a person. I learned how to look for signs in him and in myself.
The humanity of our heroes makes them even greater. Even with all their “faults” or perceived imperfections, they experienced all of life and still gained the wisdom and spiritual experiences that they did. Brings the humanity to spirituality and shows us that we can all do that.
Used tinder and hinge for about two weeks off and on; I got 100+ matches (swiping right on everyone). Here was the breakdown: 50 morbidly obese females (not “fat” or “overweight”, morbidly obese) 30 single mothers, with multiple children 5 bots/scammers Out of the remaining 15 possible matches, 5 never responded to my first message, 5 stopped responding after a few messages, and 5 were dates that went abominably bad. I wasted hundreds of dollars and hours and hours of my time and attention to go on “dates” with two straight up alcoholics (one showed up fully drunk a half hour late), one who ghosted me, and one who literally tried to friend zone me (I thought that ended in high school?) I’m good. Like, for life.
May I suggest college football season ticket, bluegrass festivals, a dog with walks in the park, and even christian music concerts? Spend your time where normal decent women spend theirs.
@@justsomenobody889 depends on their mindset. My boy just broke up with a single mom bc she said she wasn't going to stay in the relationship if he didn't move in by lease renewal in a month. They'd been dating 5 weeks. My brother has been seeing a single mom that is actually trying to move into my dads house with him and her kid. It really depends what they're looking for, but most are seeking support thusfar in my area and demanding big moves in short periods of time with large social and financial investment.
that seems more likely, because Nietschze rarely got laid and I think that is part of the reason he lost his mind...not the lack of just sex, but affection and the other things a relationship a hetero man gets from a woman
@@genkiferal7178 Some sources claim that Nietzsche's madness and descent into catatonia was a symptom of late stage syphilis which he had caught, presumably, from a prostitute, but one thing stands out from his writings, particularly his later, fragmented ones, where he is desperately trying to capture and communicate a volume's worth of thinking into individual pithy aphorisms, is how alone he is. A good woman could have sustained him, humanized him, and even, maybe, knocked some sense into him.
I am 55 and retired from dating over 7 years ago. It was the best decision I ever made. There are definitely quality men out in the world but I am too tired and cynical to look unfortunately.
15 years of sniffing coke hanging out with junkies?? party drugs and travelling the world a life of fun. A fine hunk hubby will be waiting for you with his AAA career, when you locate your femininity, his queen he'll walk you down the aisle and have some healthy babies Two women i know from the city who did exactly this, like why would a man unless he is of the same background heavy drink & drugs , invest in this type of woman at 30-40 for a future wife? please tell me
I'm 67, and married and slept with one woman. We built a great life together. Our love for each other continued to change and evolved over the decades. We were there for each other when each of us had personal challenges and when we had challenges as a couple. It's great to know you have someone who is alway there for you. Sex is great but as time goes by it falls down the list in priority. There is an intimacy that develops over the years that makes sex less important. I value loyalty and intimacy above everything.
Interestingly a questionnaire of women in the 1950s in the USA found that they were significantly more satisfied with their love and sex lives than women of the same age today. The argument thrown at this finding was "Well they had lower expectations then...blah blah" But so what? They were happier then and most women today are not.
This message is for you. Endlessly doom scrolling motivational videos and anxiously going nowhere. I was you. Stop chasing dopamine hits and pursue virtue instead. Take up your cross and live a virtuous life. You will find a peaceful lightness for your weary soul. "Come to me, all you that labour and are burdened; I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28
Let’s b real: we’v been hoodwinked in our “TonyRobbins-NeverSettle-Live up to ur FullPottential” Society, where we cut people off for not keeping up or for not being ambitious.
Good point. In all the self realization talk, we hardly hear any talk of self sacrifice for others, being of service to your fellow man, even if they are strangers or even total bastards. Rather it’s usually about one’s individual achievement or personal experiences that are cherished. “For whom does the holy grail serve?” Usually the answer is simply ourselves.
Good point. In general humans are too busy on the planet.....the rat race helps no one but the top 1% who want to horde everything for themselves. It would serve us and the planet better to be less busy & destructive, grow ourselves internally and spiritually. The answers are not external and never have been.
Too many people think that they need to be something incredible. The truth is if everyone tried to be Elon Musk we wouldn’t have a society. It’s respectable to want a normal life.
I want to say some of that is because buying power and wages are so bad now that it makes a lot of people feel they need to be the best just to have a decent life.
In regards to high performers being less happy than the average person… Two things come to mind. Any virtue taken to an extreme becomes a vice. Also, schema therapy explores this. This is what is referred to as an unrelenting standards schema. Typically people who are driven internally very highly to perform but do not actually get a lot of positive outcomes emotionally or internally.
It seems that way but all depends on expectations. I pursued a career in the music industry when I was young. Not as a means to an end, just a way of utilizing the proficiency I had already acquired through the love of doing it. When I began to realize how much becoming successful would require actions unrelated to the craft, I shut it down and recaptured my joy in it. On the other hand, I knew a collegue whom lost his perspective and treadmilled it for decades to no avail. Eventually he stopped getting better at playing but continued aquiring talent at languishing. There really _should_ be a twelve-step for those kind of folk.
I don't date anymore. The people I have met are hollow, human-like creatures with absolutley nothing inside of them. Seeking either sex on the first date or wanting to know about your economic prospects immediately is a turn-off for me. I have found nothing but that.
On the Zero-sum game: One of the best teachers I had was a physics professor at community college. His attitude was the grading system most of school uses *was backwards and achieved the opposite of what **_should_** be their goal.* His goal as a teacher was to try to instill competence in the field and increase our appreciation for the field, then give some measure as to talent/skill/aptitude (that matters most places we would go from there). He openly stated that it was entirely possible for an entire class session to all pass the class - though it hadn't happened yet. It was also said if the entire class was not competent by the end, he would fail the entire class - but if that happened he would also really have to question his own teaching techniques... He have lots of opportunities for extra credit work - and unlike other classes, because it's not graded on a competitive curve, because you _can_ , you _must_ didn't apply. (I chose to do most of them, because it was enjoyable and I wanted to do well. Not being forced to also made them seem less like a chore.)
I really liked the take you guys had on needing a "hole" in your life that needs to be filled with being the main thing fueling the excellence in more extreme people. I've trained and trained with A LOT of competitive lifters and fighters, not a single one of the guys that everyone called "absolute savages" were well grounded/balanced individuals. It was always the guys who would squat until they puked, blew blood vessels in their faces or sparred so hard they would be limping for a week. I used to be that kind of person when I was younger due to bad events of the past but now in my 30s I just don't have that same ruthless mindset required to punish myself to such a level that it almost breaks you while pushing you forward. I also think that kind of view people fits well into the faulty idealizations of perfect spouses or what women often say they want in men. They don't realize they are often describing contradictory traits that are nearly impossible to exist within one person. The musical master with a handle on poetry/arts very likely isn't going to be some physical god with an iron will and mental toughness, same as the guy who can rebuild your entire house/fix your car, bust his ass 60hrs a week as a tradesman probably isn't going to be that big into the arts and overly sensitive. Often the lesson we learn along the way wouldn't have been any help to our former selves, in fact it might have derailed us to a point of failure but those lessons can be invaluable to other upcoming younger people.
Your describing a Renaissance man. Arts science sport productivity philosophy and a tender heart toward his family. Not real common but it does exist and I believe it should be what every man aspires to.
@@gloriousimpactdeath877 yeah, polymaths were already rare back then, even more so nowadays. Society pushes you to excel in one very narrow domain instead of expanding across many (which may prevent great ideas from being born, as they often come not from mastery within a field but from connecting what no one had connected before). It takes a lot of courage to rediscover oneself doing something new.
@@mrknarf4438 agreed. Not to mention mastery is a myth. Anyone at the top of a skill or subject is painfully aware of their shortcomings. I also believe "talent" is Mostly a myth. The word gives people an excuse to not try while discounting the long arduous road a person took to achieve near mastery of a given subject.
As a dude who's a bit of a Renaissance Man, it's absolutely not easy. You have to genuinely appreciate the soft things in life while being a hard motherfucker, and to do it all takes a lot of energy. I think you also have to start young. I was naturally more of the "intellectual nerd" type as a kid, but did sports, and especially cross country, built a masculine "Fuck it I'll push through the pain, fuck this shit" attitude that I could morph into being more traditionally masculine as I got older. You have to have a lot of layers to your being, and that's exhausting. I'm glad I ended up this way, but honestly I can't say I recommend it. It's not for everyone. Unfortunately women want it all but can't seem to find it because the only way to really be a good Renaissance Man is be privileged enough to have enough free time to be one. That's why I think you need to start in middle school, when you do have the time to develop many facets to your personality. And even then, a lot of people who have the position to become one don't have the disposition or desire, so there really aren't that many of us out there, and even less above 6'0".
Life is the classic antique greek tragedy. You want to be the best in something but you also want to be happy but you most likely never can be both at the same time
that hero quote is SO SUCCINCT, and really nails home a point I have been trying to share with people for a long time. Our heroes also take craps, and put their clothes on. And wake up at 3AM questioning their existential reality. Once we acknowledge this, we are good to go.
I'm 33 and reasonably good looking in a major city. I dated for 5 or 6 years after breaking up from my LTR. I had no incentive to be in a relationship because I could keep having sex with a new girl and ditch girls when I found them annoying or whatever. Doing that for so long made sex begin to feel empty, which is the GROSSEST feeling. Like you're some kind of sick addict destroying your mind and soul. Guys, it's not a good path. Stay off it.
That's why I never did the one night stands after observing others. It destroys self-esteem and the sex is sub par and affects how you see the opposite sex negatively.
@@mjohnson1741 haven't been able to go on more than one date before it ends up in the sheets since I was 16, its absolutely devastated my interest in women
"The lessons I wish I could tell my younger self -- the only way you learn these lessons is by living them." No. You could listen to your dad (or your pastor) when he was trying to teach you. "Experience is an expensive teacher, but fools will have no other." - Benjamin Franklin
Joni Mitchell isn't talking about "moves." She's talking about layers of a human being. If you want to meet the same person again and again, stay at the surface, and the way to do that is staying in the realm of superficial variety.
50 feels good. Especially if you’ve lived the majority of it off line and running around outside. The last 10 years I’ve had this stupid cell phone and it gave me what you’d expect, addiction, surveillance, loss of friends, attention deficit and social comparison that’s led to insomnia. In my teens I skateboarded, chased girls constantly, had long meaningful relationships, read books! Worked a wide variety of jobs, knew everyone along the streets. Had about 40 phone numbers memorized and knew where my friends would likely be gathering. Guys! Girls! Ditch this phone! Go outside and fall down a lot! You will thank yourself at 50. Trust me.
👍 man! Thank you ... .this helps me a lot. This phone is like an electronic leash.. Now they added multi factor authentication at work to it making it harder to run away from it😂.
Options are an illusion when you measure against quality over quantity. I was an only child, my family members only had 1-2 children each. However, every couple in my life were married until their partners passed. I am now divorced and my ex was only my second relationship. I believe wholeheartedly in long term and substance. So now, in dating, if I don't meet an adequate partner I will remain celibate. I grew up Christian and am now just a spiritual being. That being said, if there's no value, principles or morals I'm not interested. Part of the problem is people tend to feel everyone's disposable.
I have 4 sons oldest is 36, youngest 14 all from same wife. I'm so very worried about my son's finding women decent enough to marry without ruining their lives.
I think most of us are looking for that most true beautiful union with a soul mate. We know as soon as we meet someone that their not for us, yet we entertain them for a while. I am a Twin Flame, and once you meet your Divine counterpart, the journey of self discovery starts and true unconditional love for self and life. There is a new template of “ relationship’s” coming in. We no longer wish to walk the path blindly of how a relationship should look to please society. Nothing else matters than true unconditional love 🌸💕🌸🙏 Now is the time to find ourselves, and to start a relationship with our soul and Mother Father God 🦋
over 50 years in a respectful, kind, loving, courteous. supportive. relationship, it took effort from both of us, but it was so worth It, I miss him every day. Today I watch in dismay at the modern dating system and expectations and lack of respect.
During the vaccine controversy, I don't see how people were just being contrarian and doing the opposite. I think people were pretty consistent in being skeptical from the beginning and becoming increasingly skeptical for good reason.
Thank you. It was disappointing then alarming how some who previously prided themselves on being Anti-Big-Pharma suddenly trusted EVERYTHING government and pharma told us to do. Then people who said "Trust the Science" suddenly didn't want to hear open and transparent debate...between scientists! The Left spewed their narratives and name-calling, even when it didn't stick, i.e. Trump or DeSantis in the U.S. actually GOT the shots! LoL. Didn't matter. Their irrationality and gaslighting were full speed ahead.
Fair enough to be skeptical. But when hesitating between “the government are just a bunch of ordinary people that have barely a clue more about what to do” and “the government is a bunch of supervillains manipulating the very fabric of reality for them to obtain control over everyone else” choose the former over the latter. You may not have done the second, but there was a tremendous amount of that stuff going on too. Not fair to be lumped in with the loonies if you’re just rationally skeptical, but hey, we only have so much time and energy to process the subtleties/grayscales
@Adam Blois All of that and as soon as the media and government started "othering" and dehumanizing unvaccinated people I was done giving any benefit of the doubt.
@@mr-boo - In the U.S. the former option is more rational. When Trump was still in office and talk of the vaccines was going on Biden and Harris both voiced deep skepticism against anything Trump was touting, i.e. the coming shots, "Operation Warp Speed". Then when Biden got into office SUDDENLY everything from "the government" / Fauci was to be followed, no hard questions asked, no grown-up debate, no alternative therapies finding success in other parts of the world embraced, and shameless lies by the Media. ( The Left were Anti-Pharma, but now? Silence. The Democratic Party / Media / Hollywood / Academia. ) One can spin it as mere incompetence, but I actually respect such people as knowing d@mn well what they're doing, intelligent enough to utilize their power and numbers, and to endeavor to steamroll everyday skeptics and critical thinkers and truth-seekers who dare to not bow to their moral arrogance and offensive power grab. And the immorality of selling Fear. As Thomas Jefferson reminded the nation in his time: "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
It’s so nice to be 55 and no longer the object of men’s sexual attraction. When men stop and talk to me now it’s because they sincerely like who I am as a person. It’s so refreshing to connect with people on a deeper level without some ulterior motive involved. I enjoy men now because I have absolutely no need of them lol
Being an object of attraction is something most men would do literally anything for because they will never experience it and will be looked at as merely a source of resources until the day they die. For a lot of men, they will not even get that because they will not have sufficient resources. To have someone attracted to you merely for existing is incomprehensible for them. And, to be honest, you are deluding yourself by thinking you are not still an object of attraction at 55. Plus, if you do genuinely connect with a man on a deeper level, that will create an attraction.
I have hope with the dating environment in the next few years. I know things could always get worse, but a lot of men are waking up to the absolute prideful degeneracy of modern women, and the tide can turn for the better. Don’t give terrible women any attention and don’t put up with reprehensible behaviour just because they put on a mask of beauty. Hold strong, brothers.
This is one of the most valuable conversations I've listened to. Thank you so much for creating this. Many mental thought issues I'm dealing with have been examined. Just hearing other human beings discussing these topics in an articulate language with sincerity has elevated my mood and spirit. Thank you both.
Wes - The fall in marriage rates can also be that children of unhappy marriage, don't want to have an unhappy marriage like their parents did. Let's face facts, most families in the western nations are Dysfunctional in some form. Most families have issues, then why would many want the same unhappy family life. Most children raised between 1920 to 1950 were from ."Not heard or seen" a child with no say or voice. So many witnessed their parents, unhappy.... they did not divorce but stayed together, with children listening to the infighting. Since 1970 the children were raised with hardly any discipline, told they are special. So many factors that relate to low marriage rates.
Yeah but... the alcohol thing bothers me. Alcohol almost ruined my life... and from what I read, I completely controlled him as it did me at the end. In that state I had no business giving advice to anyone. There's no one more lost and away from themselves than an alcoholic in the middle of a binge.
or, you can be wise and learn from the mistakes of others. maybe that is why reading a lot is a great thing for kids to do. Auto-biographies where the writers are open about the pain they've invited into their lives can help us learn from others, but so can history and psychology books.
Looking up too your heroes. If by chance they are brutally honest about the hell they had to go through to reach that point, that can be one of the greatest facts growing youngins can realise. The constant nature of suffering.
It said Gen Z and afterwards basically have no heroes. they humanised them, all went through the old tweets, found some racist edgy stuff and canceled them. I think it’s a new world where we have to acknowledge the human experience of the good with the bad MLK might’ve been cheating on his wife but that doesn’t make any of the other things he did, any less valuable the one doesn’t negate the other
@@Pssst.ByTheWay I'm Gen Z, and I always idolised historical figures, fighters, athletes, great thinkers and innovators. I don't like any of the american idols aside from a few founding fathers and presidents as well as a couple civilians and madlads. Everyone should view their idols as they want to and yes it's important to have the real information about them out yes, but what's more important is the revery one places in their heroes, and how does that benefit their life. If not at all, reality checks are greatly varranted, just as how one has no right to ruin a hero of someone currently on the right path!
@@themagiccookie2614 interesting. Im gen y and i dont idolise anyone. Even growing up i kinda of had admiration for people but idolised, lije screaming at n sync or justin bieber. But never idolised. 🤷♀️ Im sure there us a healthier way to promite aspiration without a swim or sink mentality of boo strapping sigma grind capitalism
I like the thing that Aba and Preach essentially said which is “choose your own battles.” Doesn’t mean you can’t have an opinion on an issue or topic currently happening in the news, but there too many goddamn things just within your neighborhood, your family, your headspace, that could be not only taking up your time but also your energy and efforts; may be more pressing to you. You may see something on the news that is the hotline one week but be forgotten the next week until it heats up again, and they may be on one topic while there are thousands upon thousands of other things that may be much more pressing outside of where we habitat.
38 yr old mom here that entered the dating pool unexpectedly at 32. It was terrifying, painful, and dangerous at times. I got so lucky finding my mate on Tinder. Arguably, neither of us belonged on that app, both of our best friends talked us into it. I thank God for him (my fiance now) but am so grateful to be out of the dating pool.
guess what not only the majority of women on Tinder specifically, and bumble and match and hinge and all the others too meaning NO DIFFERENCE at all between the social circles just to clearly point out here, is that you yourself swapped eft on 80% of men and only 20% right and that confirms the majority of own are passing around the same 20% of narcissistic ego inflated men and you wonder why ALL YOUR EXPERIENCES ARE ALL THE SAME!!! Holy shit! What a strange unrelated coincidence right!! Wrong, its absolutely directly related 100% only and isolate to themselves. But you all will refuse to acknowledge the real truths in life. Its ok, you found someone, you dont need to think about and agree with the truth anymore, you can live in the fallacy that you did it correct finally once. But thats not the truth. You didnt change behaviors, the truth is you just got straight up lucky and found one of the good guys out of those 20%, which no one is saying there is not. Ill wait fo you response to chime back in with my extensive life and relationship experience ;)
I've watched Chase review bags in sporadic intervals for nearly a quarter of my life. His small insights never cease to amaze me and his soothing voice never fails to calm me. I see so much of myself in him (and I know that makes no sense coming from a guy half his age) and hearing him talk about how rewarding he has found his journey of life to be so inspiring that it brings me to tears. As a young person in today's day and age, it's been so difficult to find people who talk about the things that truly peak my interests and prod at my deepest motivations. I'm glad the two of you recorded this conversation and I implore you to record more. Thank you
A former freedom fighter in Denmark once said to my dad about "wishes" - "All I wanted was the little woman. And I got her". I wish I had heard that story from him, when I was 12, and not from my dad, when I was 50ish..
Im lucky, i found my husband before tinder was a thing. Being married turned out to be the greatest, most fullfilling experience of my life. I wish everyone got to experience it.
There are a lot of single people on here complaining about crappy online dating stories, but apparently there are single people here that could talk to each other 😂!! Yall make it happen!
People are too prescriptive in their dating descriptions. How about saying " interested in good hearted competent person with a view to committed relationship". That will scare off the 90% ...
Wow. I was promiscuous in my 20's & 30's. One night, I told this poor guy I just couldn't do it. I didn't even know his name. Poor guy was baffled as hell. I was done..so lonely & empty inside then, the "partying", sex, it became boring..worse, soul crushing. Well, I've been married twice since then, both very physically abusive. I have a beautiful son, though. Common denominator: Me. I was kind of broken, and I set out to heal. That was good. It's good now, despite this messy life we all lead. When you have a close, caring, committed union, you have a shared history, you create your life together, have babies, maybe....you go through stuff. That's so cool & worth it. Course, it didn't work out for me in my marriages, but Lord, there are so many other little treasures scattered on this bumpy path. Family, friends, creative pursuits, the outdoors, dogs, kitties, food, interesting things, music,.I thought I'd die if I didn't have a lot of sex. Silly. Plus, I'm no prude or religious zealot, but I do believe in God. The life I lived brought me to my knees, and suddenly, these miracles started showing up, & I was stunned..no shit. I'm cynical, doubt-y. I know I'm not the only one who's had an awakening, it doesn't change anything, "bad" sh!t still happens; but it's how you look at it, how you respond, you're aware..you notice the lovely parts. Something shifted, the world didn't. Well, it's pretty screwed now, but you can laugh at a lot of it. Not all, but there is SO much more going on, you'll be OK. Even if you're convinced you won't. Mark my words.
It's so tough not to find a promiscuous woman these days. It sucks. The sad part is, you probably arent even close to the promiscuity these days. You'd probably look like an angel in comparison lmao.
Start telling these women the truth. It’s the responsibility of the sisterhood. These women won’t listen to men that they’re cutting off their future by giving into the bullshit lies being told to them by our culture. I’m afraid it’s only going to take the testament of women who have realized the truth too late to help the young women of today.
Great Episode! The key to shaving in the shower: hot water to open the pores, cold water to give you goose-bumps so when you shave you get the hair as far down as you can go 😅
I feel like at some point, soonish, shit is going to hit the fan so hard it's going to paint the whole room. People who got their long term partner already are kinda blessed.
I'm 46 and have been chaste for more than 15 years. I'd rather stay single and at peace than settle down with a man addicted to porn and or video games.
I've never dated. Totally my fault on multiple levels. But I also find it crushingly depressing that the way dating (seemingly) works now is so surface level. It makes it hard to want to overcome all the barriers I know I have created for myself. Makes it hard to see how.
Hey John, maybe don't jump right away into a fake system like an app or dating site, but get yourself together a little bit from your health/appearance/fitness point, and maybe start hanging out at your favorite coffee shop every day to try to establish a presence. If you become a regular and start integrating into small places like this, you may come across someone interesting who also notices you in return. Hope you get out there and make some moves.
I slept around a lot in my younger years and I loved every minute of a one-night stand. The little window into people was awesome. The pain was realising how difficult it was to find someone genuinely compatible with me but it meant I really knew what it was when it came along. If it's changed that much it sucks for young people. I've been married 10 years, with my wife 15 and I'm glad I went around the houses to find what I wanted because I think I chose really well as a result of it.
I had a very short period of time where I experienced the variety thing. I went from super self conscious as a kid, to dating one girl most of highschool to finding out that a lot of girls liked me after I broke up with my highschool girlfriend. I ended up picking one out of four girls that I was "seeing", and we dated for ten years, then married and had a kid. After we had a kid, she went nuts, and we divorced. I still miss who she used to be. I ended up getting married again to someone that I really didn't want to marry, but that's on me. She got pregnant, so I "did the right thing", even though I knew it was the wrong thing. We have been separated for a year, and I'm awaiting the divorce papers. Anyway, I picked the wrong horse, is what I'm trying to say.
I have just recently stumbled upon Chris Williamson after his appearance on Joe Rogan and I am simply blown away that this 34-year-old man exhibits what appears to be many lifetimes of wisdom. The most amazing part? He is every bit as curious now as he was when he started this journey. As a Big Joe Rogan fan, I could never imagine not having his podcast to listen to. However, I imagine that if Joe Rogan was suddenly forced into retirement tomorrow and needed someone to take over his studio and carry on his legacy, it should be Chris Williamson.
Omg No Chris is annoying and comes across arrogant. His voice is boring. He takes himself so bloody seriously. Give me Jacked up Joe and his bro science and obsession with aliens. I'd rather listen to Alex Jones. Chris talks crap and what is this click bait let's hate on women title. Gtfo
Yes! What is success is a great question. I think that can only be defined in solitude, I don't mean not sharing but that the only worthwhile answer can only come from within, even while under the onslaught of rejection or even lack of response, and the heartbreak that will generate for sure! It is a worthwhile challenge, the question! Great interview!!!
I am completely single since 11/2017. I was in a relationship with a narcissist 😵💫. I didn’t know until I left him and start to realize who he really was…. Lord what a long wasted years of my life. Now I’m so frightening and I just don’t , can’t trust no one. I know out there has to be someone good or at least normal , but that will be a needle in a stack of hay….. so sad. I remember my grandma told me this will happen in the future and yes it’s happening
CHRIS, the way you describe yourself when asked what your plan is, is exactly how my mind operates too!! Just So nice to hear! I still, at 42 struggle against the feeling of deficiency. Inability to make plans, or even decisions of what career i'd like for myself is a big contributor to my feeling like I'm still a directionless POS who still hasn't found a fulfilling outlet. I excel in a social setting, could be a therapist, not sure if I even truly want to full time, but cant pass variable equations in college algebra. The only thing I've ever been sure of, is that I'm more principled than most humans, more innately wise, yet I only excel if taught a craft, one on one, from the ground up that can feel expert at. Unfortunately, my self worth is so low, and fear of committing to something I'm unsure of is so high, I havent found my calling yet, and feel I may die in my own personal hell.
Hot girl summer was about being inconsiderate and disrespectful to guys in the form of empowerment. Feral girl summer is also about be inconsiderate and disrespectful to guys of the form of empowerment. Lead with love, not hate. When you treat others causally, you are only treating yourself causally. When you are inconsiderate and disrespectful to others, in the long term, you are doing it to yourself. It’s an environment, echo, you’re creating for yourself.
I like what Chase said about paradoxes. I feel like the way paradoxes are phrased isn't intended to confuse people, but to make them reevaluate what they think they know. Because the truth is usually more complex and malleable than we like to believe. In regards to the "responsibility paradox" 1:09:50, I think people who see responsibility as a rigid truth, they will try to take ownership over everything, all the time, and that can backfire. That's not to invalidate them, of course. Personally, I believe your weight of owenership will depend on what you believe in and what you care about. And that can change over time.
@@Ubu987 I think I agree with that, I'm not sure yet. I do believe that American rhetoric is chock-full of buzzwords that don't really mean anything( truth/lies, good/bad, natural, mature, intelligence, healthy, etc/vice versa). The way I see it, a paradox actually puts these words into question by pitting them against each other.
Paradox: Everyone is special. No other person can have the exact order, or specific events that make up your unique path to this very point in time. We are absolutely, each in our own unique way, just as special as the next.
If everyone is special then no one is. Just like if there's no such thing as bad music then there can't be any good music. If we're going to pretend everything is good just because some people can't agree on what is good then we might as well all go live in used septic tanks.
@@charaznable9209 A stream is made up of many droplets of water. Each droplet within the stream seems insignificant. Only when the stream is dried up do the droplets appear 'special'. Perhaps we should treat them as such before the well is dried. Edit: Also @Char Aznable, it would appear that you treat the word 'special' as synonymous to the word 'good'. I would argue that the human species is 'bad' as a general rule of thumb, we are demonstrably more capable of being detrimental than we are of being beneficial to one another.
So, yeah, that's why the world is full of s*it? This simple fact does not help at all and it sounds like everyone is a wonderful person, which is not true.
Great talk. Never have I been so glad to be of WWII vintage. In an entrepreneurial phase I tried using a Franklin planner. It did not work for me. The best things in my life happened in spite of my plans, not because of them. I treasure every day that is still granted me. It has been a good life.
I met a girl, we talked for a while just bs’ing and getting to know each other. I’ve been through 2 divorces and I have sole custody of 2 kids. I own my business, I went through a transition in my late 30s where I gave up drinking, really focused on self improvement. Now that girl I was talking too is now my fiancé, turns out she was 20 when we started talking and was already into older guys, I honestly thought she was maybe late 20s. It’s been the best relationship I’ve had. She’s been way more supportive than my two white ex wives. She’s El Salvadorian btw. Born in the states though. But still, when I met her I could see she was on the cusp of entering the degenerate lifestyle that leads to the cock carousel pushed by main stream influence. It’s gonna work out guys! I’m 40 btw
The part about hammering a fence into the ground. I went to University so I had the 'choice' to help my mate out and hammer a fence in on Saturday afternoon rather than having to hammer fences in 5 days a week.
Dying of something as banal as alcohol. Reminded me of a scene in the movie Lawless. The elder Bondurant brother lives his life making moonshine during prohibition. Is afraid of nothing, and he gets into many fights...almost gets beheaded. Drinks and smokes continuously. As alcohol becomes legal again he settles down and beings to raise a family. One night, after dinner and drinking, he goes out to pee near a frozen lake. Slips and falls into the water but is able to climb out. This leads to pneumonia and he dies. The end
@@zacheryeckard3051 yes. you dont know much about surfing. Ive surfed in water so cold when I wiped out it would give me a severe ice cream headache, that wasnt even very cold water compared to what some go out in. No pmonia tho.
@@joejones9520 What temperature? You also probably weren't wearing winter clothes that kept the literally freezing cool water stuck to your body for however long it took to get home.
I started dating my ex girlfriend in 2007 until 2015. We met in college, as normal people did... in person. When we broke up and I found myself dating again, I was floored at how much things had changed in the 8 years I was off the market. In 2016, I met my wife. I cannot imagine how much worse things have become.
Its a lot harder to perform when you feel whole, than when your performance is filling a hole inside of you. Chris talking about existential compulsion. That was really well said.
Im between 30 and 40 and if that is accurate ( judging from the millions of YT and street interviews, it probably is) its not great to hear. “Vapid and hollow.” 😭 so…..im fuxed Sidebar: I’m no longer about the hunt. I had a year of hunting (because I thought that was expected of me) and let me tell you, I have a year long post nut clarity. one night stands and casual hook ups completely lost any value to me. Sex is meant to be this amazing experience ! but it’s really stopped feeling like that. maybe it was never that but to be honest I want it to be this amazing thing. rather than just a so Lala thing like brushing your teeth. Something you kind of just do, something that is at best a “meh!” And I think that is a tragedy, that sex has lost its sparkle and magic and that it is something just willy-nilly handed out to everyone and that everyone is ultimately , very much disillusioned. Maybe we have a small feeling that some thing is being denied I often hear how baby boomers and Gen X had is so much better. houses were cheaper. jobs paid more and they had more sex, now… maybe they also just had better sex. Not this perma fleshlight reality And considering the biology of all the hormones released it, could be so much more.
@@impudentdomain trust issues🫡 aye aye captain Especially with the RUclips algorithm feeding that fear and engagement monster with the juiciest most delicious videos possible And it’s not even a recent thing a few years back you had that series of gold digger videos where a guy would try speak to a girl while standing on the pavement and she would pass him, often saying she had a bf. Then noticed him getting in his supercar and then running back. all of a sudden she was single. And these days it’s Those street interviews where i just think. Wtf 😳 Yeah trust issues But what is the alternative being naive over trusting? Its apparently a friggin wAr zone. Not being trust averse is like not wearing a bullet proof vest in that war Naw fam im not about that life. When i drive , i put in a seatbelt. Just in case.
@@dialogos585 To extend your analogy, it is now very difficult to just happen upon a fine dining establishment where you immerse yourself in a 5 course meal.
The joy of making something. I do a bit of woodworking. I make a few walking sticks and canes over the years. Never made a fine but the people I gave them to treasure them. I remember every nick and groove. Every stroke of the knife and brush of shellac. I pour myself into my work.
Reading through these comments is horrifying and heartbreaking. I can’t believe this is where society is at. I will say, it’s good to know that it’s just as difficult for men. Dating has been completely destroyed in modern culture, let alone marriage. Everything feels surface-level. I love this discussion of what a “good life” looks like, I think people have lost sight of that entirely. I want to genuinely connect with people and these days, it feels like everyone is so disconnected.
Dating is generally a lot more difficult for the average man than the average women. What amazes me is how women can’t see or recognise it. All this clap trap about feminism and equality but most women choose or just truely don’t care about any men’s issues whatsoever.
@@JiMMY-my1ds in order to do that they would have to look at something besides their face in the mirror. Women need to own up to their own forms of toxicity. As a culture we’ve given them a pass on everything and now we want them to be reasonable? They grew up on Jersey Shore and Adventure Time. MTV’s latter years. ‘NEXT’, remember that show?? I don’t. I never watched it. As it stands women are so oblivious to what dating is like for men. They’ve been programmed into this crap Hypergamy and guys have followed suit by clout chasing and ego-rapping. Women have a lot more power to change men then they know. Men will do anything for a girl. Girls won’t do “anything” for a man. That’s the problem. Women are valued way way too highly. They have wayyyy too much power in the sexual marketplace. Studies show only 20% of men are even getting dates that are attempting to. I’m sorry but it’s just a matter of being spoiled, dudes too, are very entitled, and it’s guys faults too for bowing down to the poom poom. Sex is commercialized. Women are objectifying themselves gladly. Men are gleefully condemning all women based on 1 or 2 toxic relationships. (mgtow) (red pill)
@@JiMMY-my1ds That's because the average man doesn't exist to the average woman. Women only see/care about the ones the top guys that they're all gunning for
Getting dates is easier than ever for women, getting married to a great guy is really hard. Getting dates is really hard for men, getting married to a great woman is like trying to get into Harvard medical school and graduate, it's such a gauntlet to climb.
We are plagued with narcissism. I probably quote ‘The demand for racism far outstrips supply’ at least weekly. People have all kinds of idea’s about Gavin McInnes, where I think I first heard that phrase, but I was a subscriber to the network he was on and watched his show throughout the inception of The Proud Boys. I don’t know what they’re doing now and can’t vouch for anyone but myself, but Gavin is just an irreverent, interesting dude and the drinking club was supposed to by like an Elk’s Lodge kind of group but then the psychotic leftists on college campuses were cracking skulls with big bike locks and the Proud Boys offered to provide security. How do you become a Fascist in today’s America? Disagree with the now illiberal ‘liberals’, many of whom are legitimately backed by communist organizations. Anti-Fa is a communist group and their historical enemies are Fascists, so if you disagree with them, you’re a fascist. Meanwhile the Democrat party is collaborating with big tech to censor and propagandize us since the SMMA was signed by Obama in 2012, making it legal for the US government to lie and propagandize not only the rest of the world, but it’s citizens as well. That sounds an awful lot like Fascism, yet these clueless leftists have been so confused by the government, they’re acting as brown shirts for the establishment. It’s been shocking to watch the liberals abandon their values and literally become the racists they believe everyone else to be.
And it's funny because both sides (left vs. right) are the same, but you all refuse to see it because the existence of the other's point of view threatens your own personal survival strategy. You make the same arguments against each other. You could go over to any leftist liberal platform and there would be a comment similar to yours, except they'd be blaming Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Bush Jr , Dick Cheney, Rumsfield and the far-right tea party for spreading right-wing government propaganda and assisting the big corporations to financially exploit the middle class in America. The leftist would claim that antifa and BLM exist to protect liberals against right-wing provocateurs and white supremacists that attack them at their "peaceful rallies"... LoL A counter to the Obama point would be that Trump proposed to, "take their guns away and ask questions later" which sounds very authoritarian in nature, but he was forgiven by his political constituency for such an egregious attack on the second amendment. The political right attempted to storm the Capitol while Congress was in session and engaged in combat with law enforcement officers, so yeah... all of you appear to be trapped in cognitive bias. "It's individual and collective narcissism" on both the right and the left.
“If you want to sleep with the same person over and over again sleep with lots of different people” that’s fascinating… and what I heard in that is that when we sleep with lots of different people the only person we’re really sleeping with over and over again is ourselves. Which makes an insightful kind of sense.
I’m 24 years old, extremely lucky to have a wonderful partner who is the OPPOSITE of what’s in the dating pool..:and the only reason why is because I decided to go after the OPPOSITE of my type! I have a good job, an apartment, a partner, friends and family who love me. What else could you want?! I’ve always been very different from people my age. People have always thought I was super weird because I was into…READING BOOKS. LOL! anyways, I wish I could just tell people my age that living a simple life will bring you so much happiness. Be so engrossed in the process of living your life that you don’t even need to ask existential questions
There is nothing else that a normal person would want, that’s the key, normal. You see you are like the 1% with how lucky you got. The rest of us got problems, and some of us think about exploding our brains daily.
Men at 24: I have a great high paying job and my wife loves me for who I am!! Men at 34: I live in a van down by the river, my ex-wife only loved my money.
Fellow Autodidact ~" Read None dare Call It Conspiracy"(Gary Allen) and "Future Shock" (Alvin Toffler) You will see it has all come to pass ! "So many books so little time " !!!
The reference to people over a certain net worth only drinking sparkling water made me think of the relevancy of certain objects, products, actions in different cultures. I'm Italian and *everyone* drinks sparkling water, regardless of income or social status, if they like the stuff. The notion of sparkling water as a luxury item or a status symbol is alien to us.
Hello beautiful people, here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:20 Realising the Humanity of Heroes
09:59 Current State of the Dating Market
16:38 Having Principles Over Plans
23:28 The Fear of Insufficiency
33:30 Feral Girl Summer
43:16 White Gay Privilege
54:11 How to Combat Fire-Hosing
1:05:29 Importance of Ownership
1:11:57 Where to Find Chase
Hello anton. What the math
@lord barking absolute truth has all the attributes we asign to god. Unchanging perfection in all eternity.
Truth is tested by time, and actually only exists in eternity.
This is beyond all human capability. But some things we are pretty certain about.
But even those, if you’re not willing to even entertain testing it again and again. Put it to the only relevant test…. Time and that in all eternity… then you have shut your eyes. Be it a glimmer or a raging fire, truth shall evade you
Its mind. No apostrophe.
You probably wouldn't listen to the you of today, when you were younger - if you TOLD yourself yhings.That's why, when teaching anything, you don't TELL, you EXPLAIN. Think about it - that's one of the major reasons, Jordan Peterson (and I) walk right into everybody's soul, when "teaching/coaching/conversing".
00:20 whose quote was that?
I remember when there were only 4 channels on television. We always found something to watch. Now I can choose from hundreds of channels, I can never find anything. I feel like dating is much the same
Absolutely spot on!
Australia 2006 vs Australia 2023
I feel it's the opposite im finding everything i want
That’s called Choice Paralysis.
When presented with many options, we are more indecisive & less satisfied with our choice when we can only choose one thing.
For example, an ice cream truck pulls up & it only sells chocolate, vanilla & strawberry ice cream. You choose chocolate & feel pretty satisfied by it.
Now another ice cream truck pulls up & has 100’s of flavours, now you can’t pick between which type of chocolate ice cream you want, and eventually when you do choose you are less satisfied, because you can’t stop thinking about whether or not the other options were better.
It’s also why a lot of people order the same exact thing whenever they go to a restaurant, it eliminates choice & presents you with something you know you can be satisfied with.
@@silverkitty2503 that’s because entertainment & dating are not an adequate comparison, with modern entertainment you can pick whatever you want & you can watch it whenever you want. There’s no more cable tv subscriptions you need to have, cinemas you need to go to, tv channels to flick through, & streaming sites are easier to sign-up to & cancel.
Whereas dating, you can only date one person at a time, the choice paralysis kicks in then.
I loved that Joni Mitchell quote, Jordan Peterson said, if you find someone boring, you’re not a good listener. I’ve been with the same person for 14 years and it’s been one of the greatest adventures of my life to experience all of the different phases of each other and myself with my life buddy, I wouldn’t trade a million shallow relationships for my one intimate friendship/partnership
you are a rarity. Your man is fortunate if this is true
Agreed. Friends are the complete replacement for the unfulfilled promises of 'family'. While some family members may become friends there is no guarantee. All that residual history, the lifelong memory stuff can't compete with a clean slate, the possibility of reinventing ourselves, the freedom of choice, etc. The test of friendship is someone who will never talk behind your back because they like you just as you are - which is hardly ever the 'work project' approach of family.
YOU are a rare and precious gem with that outlook for a relationship. I hope you have children to pass on that wisdom.
That sounds incredibly healthy and normal. Congratulations!
@@Robert-zb5ep its not that rare to want a monogamous relationship. The world's not as morbid as you think 😅
Im in my 40s and i tried online dating , and it really depressed me . The narcissism is so evident, it was overwhelming. I had done online dating 10 years ago and it was a completely different experience.
A lot has happened and nothing has been for the better.
Online dating works until your mid thirties, after that, it's only single moms and fat chicks.
Same here it’s grim out there
Absolutely true I'm 50..reenter dating after divorce 2011..online experience was totally different..remember social media wasn't big and everyone didn't have a cellphone
That’s exactly what it is bro. We’re living in an age of rampant malignant female narcissism. Thats not hyperbole btw. I believe that’s technically accurate.
**caveat for idiots- yes of course there are narcissistic men and yes of course there’s millions of amazing, moral women.
One of the best things they never tell you about getting older as a woman is realizing the insignificance of things like ‘white feral girl summer’. I don’t need some weird trend on social media telling me how to be. Life has taught me how I *want* to be, and I’m that.
Yeeeeaah. Bloody good for you 👍
An identity not built on thousands of likes from simps on Instagram! Wanna go on a date? 🤣
silly woman hit the wall so hard she's rambling like she got punched
you??? whooo arrre yoooou?
As an older single man in my autumn, I can say there is real joy in living day to day with each new day being filled with peace and quite. I think the older you get the more in tune you are with your true spirituality because you no longer feel like you have to perform as somone else thinks you should.
@@SFVYachtClub 💀
The irony of promiscuity is that the lucky people are those who find a single person they love and feel attracted to, not those who get to have sex with anyone they want.
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Most find nobody, tho. Lucky, huh?
@nocturnaljoe9543 do you really think holding out for the one is worse than running through a bunch of people in an endless cycle of either disappointment or emptiness?
@@liannemarie2504 You are acting like there is no way to get to know people, but to have sex with them.
Trial and error is how people have always got together. Not by waiting for that one in a million person. But by trying to get to know the people around you and then making a decision.
It is just that men are stuck in a negative feedback loop. Initiated by a small group and supported by women.
Promiscuity is not a road to good relationship outcomes ,no matter what modern society tells you ,usually the reverse
Whether it's hot girl summer or feral girl summer, it's all just insecure girl summer. Who TF needs a "theme" for summer anyway?
quite often, the same parents who instilled (or failed to!) instill values and ideas into their daughter also did so in a son. Do you men _really_ think they did a worse job on their daughter and that their sons are somehow so much better adjusted?
My experiences have proved that to not be true.
Women, as a general rule, are more annoying, though - they are more of a burden on others, and blame, and complain, and have more excuses for not doing this or that - but that is universal. But, men have their own set of faults that are universal and can be negative in many situations - especially in the modern era where fighting, killing, and destroying aren't as beneficial as a thousand+ years ago.
@@genkiferal7178 Lets look at some statistics. 80% of divorces filed by women. 24 million abortions in the first 6 months of 2022. 85% of all money in the US is spent by women. Women make up the majority of college graduates. Yet men still earn more money doing hard labor and trades that women refuse to do. Also most violent criminals come from single mother households, whereas single dads tend to raise successful members of society. Yeah I don't think you can just point the finger at us men this time.
@@charaznable9209 Single parents households aren't good. But, you are leaving many things out. Maybe women spend more (that stat seems sooooo wrong!) because they have kids to raise? Women are also more likely to care for elderly parents, to buy stuff for the classes they teach or for others' birthdays or other celebrations.
Yes, women tend to buy too much crap, though - they buy more instead of _being_ more.
As for hard labor, most of those jobs have a 40 or 50 or even 75 lb minimum to lift - stated in job ads. No, women cannot lift that much and certainly not repeatedly day in and day out.
Those violent criminals form ANY home are often males and it isn't always (sometimes it is) the woman's fault that the father isn't around (though if she chose bad father material, it kinda is her fault, but that still means the male is bad, too).
Single dads almost always either live with their mothers (or vice versa) or their mother plays a major role in helping to raise her son's kids. he may also get a GF to help out (like my dad often did).
But, you keep playing that "Imma victim" game., okay?
@@genkiferal7178 your talking points are easily refutable. You sound like a feminist apologist
@@genkiferal7178
- *"But, you keep playing that "Imma victim" game., okay?"*
Who are you even talking to?
Never heard of either of these guys before, but this is the exact type of conversation I'm hoping to hear when I sit down in a bar next to other people.
You should check Chase out. Fascinating guy with an infectious joy about the way he views the world
me too
Go back thru his older episodes. He has some really good ones about women and man/woman dynamics in general.
Bars are for degenerates.
Bars haha
The original Schwarzenegger Conan film is excellent for telling a story of pushing and pushing and pushing to reach your goal. The great barbarian forged by years on the wheel of pain, goes on a journey of rage, pillaging and raiding and eventually discovers friendship, love and the power of protection through masculinity.
Very old film now guys but if you've not watched it I strongly recommend you give it a go and pay close attention to Conan's total character arc. Big lessons to be learnt! ❤️
To hell with your four winds!
It's an exquisite spiritual and artsy film.
Gotta ask, was there a stray maid?
One of my favorite Schwarzenegger films.
great movie, some thing like that will never be made again.
Chris: "You want to have just a couple of favorite porn videoes and stick to those."
Chase: "What I want is none of that....What I want is to have a really rich and vibrant connection with my spouse." LOL. Amen my guy. Best response.
Chase is just so much more wise and mature, the contrast between the two of them is shrinking
Women : fuckmen I got a vibrator.... and its better than men! So not only shaming men, but also criticizing their sexuality and prowess too. So super classy and showing us the better way of being that soft and sensitive flower women are....bahahahajajajaja
@@user-du9pq2dz7cbeing married has nothing to do with wisdom u imbecile
LOL.
Chase is on the right track, just look at surveys of happiest and most physically fulfilled people… married folks, one partner.
I think this explains so much about the current cultural breakdown we are having. Alot of people seem to be alone and in pain of some sort. And it's started very early. You don't have to wait to be 40 or 50 to be alone, cynical and depressed. I think this left swipe right swipe generation is finding out that you can't shortcut to a satisfying relationship. You have to do the work.
You’re so right! It’s starting so much earlier…children are lonely. Teenagers are struggling. Technology does not fix these needs. Everyone wants to blame women (or men) and it’s just not that simple and easy. Our entire environment has been polluted for years…the chemicals that are used in crops are so damaging to the animals that live in the areas where they’re used. It’s complete arrogance/stupidity to think that it would not show up in our own DNA and the future generations of children. Mental illness is rampant. Breaks my heart to see. But people don’t connect the dots.
Yes!!! You must do the hard work
Unfortunately, many of us lack opportunity to meet people and form natural relationship, or know-how of how to connect with people when it feels like everywhere you go today, there are potential landmines.
I've been trying and praying for years at this point. Always wanted to be a gentleman, find a young lady, start a family, be committed instead of a player. Instead, little in real life, lots of ghosting on dating apps, and the few who do chat with me, I'm now too broken-hearted to connect with them properly (or they're too distant, and so I have to seriously consider long-distance moving before I can truly commit).
Have always wondered if maybe I should consider a move out of country just for the sake of dating.
Do the Work , a book by LePera something
Astute observation 👍🏼
Not just romantic relationships either. I remember as I became an adult (18-20 or so years old) realising that I shared a 50/50 responsibility for the kind of relationship I wanted with my parents, siblings and siblings-in-law etc. I wasn’t a child anymore and it was my responsibility to uphold a standard of honour and respect in my interactions with them WITHOUT BEING ASKED.
you have an entire generation of kids now, boasting online about how they’ve ‘cut off toxic family members’ because they disagree on political perspectives. It’s absolutely insane.
People who sleep around become fragmented... Like a piece of your soul is tied/attached spirituality to each and every person you sleep with. Then you expect to settle down and be with one person, but all the experiences prior, taint the relationship in a way. Defiled the soul
I was explaining this to a friend of mine who’s been with many many people. He didn’t understand why his short marriage failed and why at 50 certain things just aren’t working out.
Yes. Inability to pair bond
This is profoundly true.
Belief kills and belief cures. If you believe having sex with multiple partners defile your soul (whatever you take that word to mean) it will be true, For You. But not necessarily reality. You could decide having played the field to be committed to one person from this day on. A possibility, yes?
What is this “SOUL” of which you speak? 🤔
Think if most people stuck to the basics and stop being so self-obsessed they’d be fine. Have a decent satisfying job and love your family. Almost all your spiritual needs will be met just by loving your own family.
I agree. You have to know how to love your own family before you can love anyone else. How many people claim they "love everybody" and can't even get along with the people who gave them life and supported them for decades? Claim abuse/trauma for every difference of opinion and conflict growing up, etc.
True. But a lot of my family are dickheads.
@Fabian Kirchgessner if that is the case then those are what you work towards with humility as opposed to just stroking your own ego through endless validation seeking.
@Fabian Kirchgessner I’m saying it’s the thing to strive for, and to take personal responsibility as far as you can take it. If you are in a “bad” family you can do what you can to make it better, and then at the very least make sure you correct the mistake of the family you are born into by making the best of the family you create. If you don’t have a job, put your energy into figuring out how to get a job. Take baby steps if you have to. Yes, I know some people are in way worse situations than othera but then what’s the alternative than trying? Giving up and becoming a destructive member of society? There’s no option.
It's a wonderful idea, but I feel biological sexual motivation, and contemporary external elements i.e politics, media, social influence, advertising and finance make it nearly impossible. The average individuals bandwith becomes completley overloaded, broken and then conditioned. The darkest elements of the human condition coupled with the endless number of avenues someone can find supposed meaning without any ethical dicipline or moral guidance.
"My prayer was 'I want to know the truth'". It's been unbelievably painful, but it's worked so far.
Admirable and a good example. As another person who values hard truths over pretty lies, I wish you well on your journey in life.
@@toastymarket4089 Thanks. Truth is very, very difficult. It goes all the way down.
Hey, me too! ^_^ When I was 21 (51 now), I prayed, "Please God, as much as possible, I want to see the world the way *You* see it." He graciously obliged. It's been a hard road at times, but I don't regret the request.
me too. but truth means you live real. means you change.
@@gerrystevens9041 truth has no bottom, my friend. Even Those things we call "meaning" vanish under it's pale, relentless light.
We find meaning, but that isn't Truth. Change occurs, but that isn't truth. Everything we think and feel is not truth, because it involves us subjectively.
And yet at the center of all of that, truth abides.
I woke super early in the morning and felt compelled to go back and watch this entire video. I’m really glad I did. There were so many gems of thought and revelation in simple sentences. The inner being of these two gentlemen was exposed and gold fell out. Thanks guys!
Got divorced at 39 and got into the online dating market for the first time two years ago, wow what an eye-opener.
@@kh2716 absolutely not.
I'm 35, avoided dating for years at a time while I built my company. Decided I needed to get back in two years ago and immediately met someone in person who turned out to be a narcissist. I was inept to understand the red flags from my lack of recent experience. Went through the love mirroring, slowly attacking my self image, eventual dismissal, and hoovered by her and her parents. It wouldn't end too, I had to stop acknowledging her existence, because every girl who talked to me at the farmers market, she would introduce herself to them within 30 minutes of meeting me. Mate guarded by someone who cheated on me.
Horrifying story mate. I'm glad you got out alive.
Sorry you experienced that.
I had a similar experience and it changed me.
"Nobody expects the spanish inquisission - or the covert narcissist". Happens to everybody, that doesn't know about them and the signs. Love bombing aso kinda is hard to not get sucked in by, especially for men, women being both the prize and the chooser...
I thought that was the Normal first girl every guy has once
Asked an uncle if I could live with him, says yes but I have to go to A.A. He controlled my life from day one, felt something was wrong. Then I observed the family dynamic wondered why my cousins had moved out, I had to learn to give in to a tyrant. He was also controlling a guy from A.A. by making him my sponsor and inviting him to family BBQs. Its was my intense observation that unmasked the sponsors narcissism, in the same way that I unmasked my uncle. Now I have a crazy ability to figure out who is a narcissist. Came back to live home and watched everyday tons of videos on narcissim and discovered that my cousins longtime girlfriend is also one. Then I reflected on a romantic relationship from a few years ago and again she was one. I see so clearly who is just from the power of observation. Even though I still drink and have no money I treasure the insight that's laid the foundation for a new life.
"Eaten alive" isn't the best description of the experience in my humble opinion. Had to endure online dating in my late 30's (roughly 2.5 years ago) and it was absolutely miserable, but it was more of a feeling of disgust that dating and being single had devolved into such a shitty and trashy experience. I feel like "Eaten alive" implies that you're in over your head our out of your league. I had the opposite mindset, I felt like it was below me almost with a sense of arrogance. I was embarrassed that i even had to resort to that bullshit.
Yes. Exactly what I tell people. It felt dirty and it took me a year or so to get over the shame of how I had debased myself.
I even told one of my dates 'I feel like a gigolo'. She didn't understand why that was a bad thing.
That's when I should have stopped.
I totally understand. I'm old enough to remember what dating was like prior to social media, dating apps, dating sites, and even the internet as we know it. Modern dating (hookup culture) is garbage, and I'm not participating in that. I'm out.
Agree 💯 I wouldn't sink so low to use dating apps etc.
Yeah I have nothing but contempt for it also. A lot of it is just trashy as you said. I think that there are good people to be had on dating sites but you gotta look good on paper. You don’t look good on paper, especially as a dude, then good luck lol I’m not that guy. I don’t say what I say completely out of anger or because I probably wouldn’t be successful at it but because it’s just fucking sad.
Here's my experience;
Early 20s, jacked and very nice looking, can play instruments and make a girl laugh etc., but with the standard Millennial problems and baggage plus some carry-on:
"Christ this is awkward, and I'm not doing myself any favors thinking about it. This is... Well, I guess this is all it is, or what? Pointless chatter and I have to tune most of it out, it's so empty. But at least there's a bit of a rush. If only I had something more to bring to the table or could actually do this for serious, so I could shoot for quality. It feels physically good; I just wish I didn't have to tailor my whole come-off quite so much. Makes all the sweat and clamminess taste bad in the mouth after."
Late 20s, even more jacked, got some experience and tricks and means, but still no real money or what I'd consider life goals achieved such that I'd put myself out there as something worth betting on:
"Here we go again. Bla de bla de bla... Damnit. I specifically didn't pick some dating app trash, but went with someone who I bumped into doing something, and still? Come on. Oh, there was a little something original there. Can we...? Ah, no, apparently not. I mean, everyone is different and interesting in their own way, but come the hell on. I've already gotten the hand on the shoulder and this is 2nd date, so should we just skip to the bedroom? I know you're just fishing too, and you're not really interesting me, and I can tell you're counting on keeping on doing your own thing. So I'm just a dinner."
Today, early 30s, slipped a little due to an injury, but now at least I have a business and Beamer and something to build on, even though I am hoping it's just going to be a step towards more:
"No, we're not doing that. Had some last month, I've had a couple of baby trap attempts, couple of dates where she said something so rank that I just stood up and dropped a couple of bills and walked. Frankly, I'm bored and I've got shit to draw and pods to listen to, and you look like just another mannequin. Yeah, not getting any younger, dad already had me at seven when he was this age, but screw it. In fact, screw the whole thing. I'm just going to do the useful thing, get the money, and hope a unicorn shows up at some point. If this is what society's done to my generation, and these are people's terms, then sod it and them and I guess they'll have to go cry to their cats and wipe their own asses."
I’m a gay man as turned 50 a few months ago. I’m single as of last year after 10 years and been active on the dating scene since. It has been frustrating and weird. Sure I’m 10 years older now but people have definitely changed... for the worse! They are flaky, inconsiderate, and ill mannered in a way that didn’t exist nearly to this degree 10 years ago. I hate the current culture, the way people interact (or mostly don’t) and the general state of the world. 😩
Straight here....It is society ...I'm 61 and a Dr. Working with people all day is a huge battle to maintain your senses. I enjoy classical music, opera, ballet and art...and women think that is gay...LOL. My father was a executive for IBM and I used to go to the Met with my mom and him ...It's crazy how so many things today are labeled on to you..where as when we were young, gay guys played little league and no on cared....
In my opinion, a person that doesn’t have God in their soul and do his will are bad.
@@dojocho1894 ^^^ *THIS* ^^^
@@theartzscientist8012 I don’t follow. Pls explain.
@@ownedbymykitty270 what does God say about homosexuality?
Hearing this makes me so grateful for being strangely aware of it all without experience. When I met my second husband quite unintentionally. I pretty much told him, we can have dinner, I pay my own way, no touching until I can make up my mind if I know you well enough to want to know your heart. I think most people don't consider that the person you share the time with has an actual beating heart in their chest. We need to take that seriously if we want to be taken serious too.
Maybe he stuck around for that
@@meshugganator08 I believe that people don't expect love anymore. they don't expect to be loved, they don't expect to love themselves and they don't know how to love anybody else. I started my love affair with my husband with self respect and kind regard for is heart and psyche....WE are married and still having a love affair. I am thankful for our restraint. I wish other people to discover this ...it is bliss and it is real.
@@lynnehood2198 the world seems to want hedonism. I’m disgusted by it. I have given up on women and marriage. Loyalty and honesty with integrity isn’t what people want right now. Your way is the better way. They just choose not to see it
@@meshugganator08 It is ironic tho, I think some women are afraid to say...
"I will not date you, (but we can visit)
I will have dinner with you ( but you cannot buy my dinner- because I am your equal).
I will not travel with you (...unless we marry.)
I respect you (...and me) DO you?
I don't want a broken heart (or to break yours)
I'd rather loose you and regret it than sleep with you and lose my self respect and yours and regret that!"
Hard things...all of them. People don't want to say them, or hear them. But why do people believe that a relationship can be built of casual sex? All those complexities are much harder. I believed that if I showed my hand and took the chance that he might leave...if he stayed, my bet was well placed and if he left it was still a win. Not because I did not care but because he couldn't care for me. There would be no place for me with a man like that. BUT...if he stayed and gave me the chance and time to fall in LOVE...well...now that is really something any woman or man would want. I think people now days act without courage (no heart). I hope that you find someone special and you are willing to hold out for courage...hers and yours.
Relationship fail because neither partner understands self love or integrity- that leads to deliberate acts of inflicting pain. WE are not children...pain is serious outcome.
"The demand for racism outstrips the supply" such a good line
Thomas Sowell.😊
You two Caucasians should get a room
And you should get a job.
@@JG-mt3rp another racist who demands racism
@@operandexpanse keep seethin' bitch 😅
That’s why, I quit dating and focused on my hobbies and strengthening my relationships with my family and friends when , I was in my mid 20’s and couldn’t be happier!
You can meet plenty of decent people at social events. My buddy just met a lady at a running club
@@Kurio71 That's right, the best way to meet people is through hobbies as you already have a shared interest.
That’s the point I’m at. I’m not actively dating anymore. I’m open to it if it crosses my path, but I’m not focusing on that at all. I just want to get back into my hobbies and things that actually make me feel good about and love myself
@@sharktiff1 I will always be open to the possibility of a relationship but if, it does not happen, I do not think, I will be too sore about it. I am usually, too busy with my language, college studies, and other passions.
when i competed in powerlifting a week ago i noticed that I couldnt get myself to a dark place and get really aggressive like I used to because my life was going good. I didnt have the anger, sadness, and rage that life gave me previously and I think it made my performance drop
I think what u need is high dose shrooms
@@sadhu7191 no
find a new reason to lift, pretty sure thats why some people warn about going to the gym for the wrong reasons( for example picking up women). or zuko being taught how to properly use firebending not from a place of anger (nerd asf)
You’ve matured aka you’re getting old.
@@joeschmoe8834 i think thats exactly it. I need to get driven by something healthier, but still have it drive me
I've had way too many bad experiences that I don't even want it anymore. "The way is shut, it was made by those who are dead. The way is shut"
The problem is the way is not really shut because lust is stronger than regret. After a while you will open the way again. Someone above wrote people who sleep around become fragmented so such people can't really settle down with one person for life after their "bad experiences", especially women. I guess those bad experiences, or one of them, include and were bad men (dark triad) using and abusing you in the bed like a piece of meat, degrading you. The problem is, a dark part of you likes it. That part that was reigned in for a reason in the past. The uncomfortable truth.
The question I am asking myself after reading such comments, what then remains for such traumatised people in this "Brave new world" (Aldous Huxley book)? For such women that abound now? Either the life of a spinster or a further way down the decadent, hedonist, pervert spiral until women are completely given over to everything we see in pron, to every dark corner of their soul and they give themselves willingly over to their lust and over to men to be their property and do with them as they please. I heard such women say in their videos "Treat us like shit, we like it." A perverts paradise (just like to old Rome). A 304 utopia that will not last. The path of righteousness or the path of wickedness. The wast majority chooses the latter now. There is a way out bot not many find it.
There is always healing, try it.
acknowledge that you were the idiot for invited those people into your life. I've done this and it gives me confidence that i am less likely to accept a first date with such a person. I learned how to look for signs in him and in myself.
Not for the queen of Gondor! 👑
Find someone who you can have a LOTR quote-off with on the first date. You'll soon change your mind
The humanity of our heroes makes them even greater. Even with all their “faults” or perceived imperfections, they experienced all of life and still gained the wisdom and spiritual experiences that they did.
Brings the humanity to spirituality and shows us that we can all do that.
You are lucky to know that.😊
Used tinder and hinge for about two weeks off and on; I got 100+ matches (swiping right on everyone).
Here was the breakdown:
50 morbidly obese females (not “fat” or “overweight”, morbidly obese)
30 single mothers, with multiple children
5 bots/scammers
Out of the remaining 15 possible matches, 5 never responded to my first message, 5 stopped responding after a few messages, and 5 were dates that went abominably bad.
I wasted hundreds of dollars and hours and hours of my time and attention to go on “dates” with two straight up alcoholics (one showed up fully drunk a half hour late), one who ghosted me, and one who literally tried to friend zone me (I thought that ended in high school?)
I’m good.
Like, for life.
May I suggest college football season ticket, bluegrass festivals, a dog with walks in the park, and even christian music concerts? Spend your time where normal decent women spend theirs.
Same, but dudes. Life is tough.
Life is tough, but Tinder is tougher. What a shitshow for guys and girls online.
2024 is going to be more about in person activities for me! Cheers!
The single moms might not be as bad as you think
@@justsomenobody889 depends on their mindset. My boy just broke up with a single mom bc she said she wasn't going to stay in the relationship if he didn't move in by lease renewal in a month. They'd been dating 5 weeks. My brother has been seeing a single mom that is actually trying to move into my dads house with him and her kid. It really depends what they're looking for, but most are seeking support thusfar in my area and demanding big moves in short periods of time with large social and financial investment.
"After copulation, the devils laughter can be heard" is a quote from Schopenhauer, not nietzsche
Thanks man
@@grit1679 Strangely, Schopenhauer, not Nietzsche was Hitler's favourite author.
Bravo
that seems more likely, because Nietschze rarely got laid and I think that is part of the reason he lost his mind...not the lack of just sex, but affection and the other things a relationship a hetero man gets from a woman
@@genkiferal7178 Some sources claim that Nietzsche's madness and descent into catatonia was a symptom of late stage syphilis which he had caught, presumably, from a prostitute, but one thing stands out from his writings, particularly his later, fragmented ones, where he is desperately trying to capture and communicate a volume's worth of thinking into individual pithy aphorisms, is how alone he is. A good woman could have sustained him, humanized him, and even, maybe, knocked some sense into him.
Notice how much we all get wrapped in guilt, self doubt, shame and worrying what others think of us.Creativity is one way through.
What does creativity even mean?:)
I am 55 and retired from dating over 7 years ago. It was the best decision I ever made. There are definitely quality men out in the world but I am too tired and cynical to look unfortunately.
It is time to retire, grandma.
Same here! I m in Thailand now! 100000000000000000 of old crocodiles with young girls! 10 euros for a girl! In Madagascar it s 1 euro for sex!!
@@insomniacresurrected1000 So you enjoy girlfriends without labels and all its frivolous conveniences!
@@abelmcguire1951 I enjoy young women.
15 years of sniffing coke hanging out with junkies?? party drugs and travelling the world a life of fun. A fine hunk hubby will be waiting for you with his AAA career, when you locate your femininity, his queen he'll walk you down the aisle and have some healthy babies
Two women i know from the city who did exactly this, like why would a man unless he is of the same background heavy drink & drugs , invest in this type of woman at 30-40 for a future wife? please tell me
I'm 67, and married and slept with one woman. We built a great life together. Our love for each other continued to change and evolved over the decades.
We were there for each other when each of us had personal challenges and when we had challenges as a couple. It's great to know you have someone who is alway there for you. Sex is great but as time goes by it falls down the list in priority.
There is an intimacy that develops over the years that makes sex less important. I value loyalty and intimacy above everything.
Interestingly a questionnaire of women in the 1950s in the USA found that they were significantly more satisfied with their love and sex lives than women of the same age today. The argument thrown at this finding was "Well they had lower expectations then...blah blah" But so what? They were happier then and most women today are not.
This message is for you.
Endlessly doom scrolling motivational videos and anxiously going nowhere. I was you. Stop chasing dopamine hits and pursue virtue instead. Take up your cross and live a virtuous life. You will find a peaceful lightness for your weary soul.
"Come to me, all you that labour and are burdened; I will give you rest."
Matthew 11:28
Let’s b real: we’v been hoodwinked in our “TonyRobbins-NeverSettle-Live up to ur FullPottential” Society, where we cut people off for not keeping up or for not being ambitious.
Good point. In all the self realization talk, we hardly hear any talk of self sacrifice for others, being of service to your fellow man, even if they are strangers or even total bastards. Rather it’s usually about one’s individual achievement or personal experiences that are cherished. “For whom does the holy grail serve?” Usually the answer is simply ourselves.
Good point. In general humans are too busy on the planet.....the rat race helps no one but the top 1% who want to horde everything for themselves. It would serve us and the planet better to be less busy & destructive, grow ourselves internally and spiritually. The answers are not external and never have been.
Thank you for saying that
@@cynthiam1381 can you explain?
Too many people think that they need to be something incredible. The truth is if everyone tried to be Elon Musk we wouldn’t have a society. It’s respectable to want a normal life.
If everyone was above average, then they would all be average
I want to say some of that is because buying power and wages are so bad now that it makes a lot of people feel they need to be the best just to have a decent life.
@@cynthiam1381 elon is only exceptional at one thing in life: Building complex businesses. Apparently he isn’t a very good husband/partner.
In regards to high performers being less happy than the average person…
Two things come to mind. Any virtue taken to an extreme becomes a vice.
Also, schema therapy explores this. This is what is referred to as an unrelenting standards schema. Typically people who are driven internally very highly to perform but do not actually get a lot of positive outcomes emotionally or internally.
It seems that way but all depends on expectations.
I pursued a career in the music industry when I was young. Not as a means to an end, just a way of utilizing the proficiency I had already acquired through the love of doing it.
When I began to realize how much becoming successful would require actions unrelated to the craft, I shut it down and recaptured my joy in it.
On the other hand, I knew a collegue whom lost his perspective and treadmilled it for decades to no avail. Eventually he stopped getting better at playing but continued aquiring talent at languishing. There really _should_ be a twelve-step for those kind of folk.
I don't date anymore. The people I have met are hollow, human-like creatures with absolutley nothing inside of them. Seeking either sex on the first date or wanting to know about your economic prospects immediately is a turn-off for me. I have found nothing but that.
On the Zero-sum game: One of the best teachers I had was a physics professor at community college. His attitude was the grading system most of school uses *was backwards and achieved the opposite of what **_should_** be their goal.*
His goal as a teacher was to try to instill competence in the field and increase our appreciation for the field, then give some measure as to talent/skill/aptitude (that matters most places we would go from there).
He openly stated that it was entirely possible for an entire class session to all pass the class - though it hadn't happened yet. It was also said if the entire class was not competent by the end, he would fail the entire class - but if that happened he would also really have to question his own teaching techniques...
He have lots of opportunities for extra credit work - and unlike other classes, because it's not graded on a competitive curve, because you _can_ , you _must_ didn't apply.
(I chose to do most of them, because it was enjoyable and I wanted to do well. Not being forced to also made them seem less like a chore.)
My wife can finish a joke I create because we are so alike now, its not sad its awesome!
Man that's so beautiful bro. Cheers to your love 💯
i dont like either of you
That's awesome!
Also, same, but with my Husband. There is just something about someone who really, really knows you. It's the best gift in life.
I really liked the take you guys had on needing a "hole" in your life that needs to be filled with being the main thing fueling the excellence in more extreme people. I've trained and trained with A LOT of competitive lifters and fighters, not a single one of the guys that everyone called "absolute savages" were well grounded/balanced individuals. It was always the guys who would squat until they puked, blew blood vessels in their faces or sparred so hard they would be limping for a week. I used to be that kind of person when I was younger due to bad events of the past but now in my 30s I just don't have that same ruthless mindset required to punish myself to such a level that it almost breaks you while pushing you forward.
I also think that kind of view people fits well into the faulty idealizations of perfect spouses or what women often say they want in men. They don't realize they are often describing contradictory traits that are nearly impossible to exist within one person. The musical master with a handle on poetry/arts very likely isn't going to be some physical god with an iron will and mental toughness, same as the guy who can rebuild your entire house/fix your car, bust his ass 60hrs a week as a tradesman probably isn't going to be that big into the arts and overly sensitive.
Often the lesson we learn along the way wouldn't have been any help to our former selves, in fact it might have derailed us to a point of failure but those lessons can be invaluable to other upcoming younger people.
Your describing a Renaissance man. Arts science sport productivity philosophy and a tender heart toward his family. Not real common but it does exist and I believe it should be what every man aspires to.
@@gloriousimpactdeath877 yeah, polymaths were already rare back then, even more so nowadays. Society pushes you to excel in one very narrow domain instead of expanding across many (which may prevent great ideas from being born, as they often come not from mastery within a field but from connecting what no one had connected before).
It takes a lot of courage to rediscover oneself doing something new.
@@mrknarf4438 agreed. Not to mention mastery is a myth. Anyone at the top of a skill or subject is painfully aware of their shortcomings.
I also believe "talent" is Mostly a myth. The word gives people an excuse to not try while discounting the long arduous road a person took to achieve near mastery of a given subject.
@@cynthiam1381 I think it was a generalization. He's mostly right
As a dude who's a bit of a Renaissance Man, it's absolutely not easy. You have to genuinely appreciate the soft things in life while being a hard motherfucker, and to do it all takes a lot of energy. I think you also have to start young. I was naturally more of the "intellectual nerd" type as a kid, but did sports, and especially cross country, built a masculine "Fuck it I'll push through the pain, fuck this shit" attitude that I could morph into being more traditionally masculine as I got older. You have to have a lot of layers to your being, and that's exhausting. I'm glad I ended up this way, but honestly I can't say I recommend it. It's not for everyone. Unfortunately women want it all but can't seem to find it because the only way to really be a good Renaissance Man is be privileged enough to have enough free time to be one. That's why I think you need to start in middle school, when you do have the time to develop many facets to your personality. And even then, a lot of people who have the position to become one don't have the disposition or desire, so there really aren't that many of us out there, and even less above 6'0".
Life is the classic antique greek tragedy. You want to be the best in something but you also want to be happy but you most likely never can be both at the same time
that hero quote is SO SUCCINCT, and really nails home a point I have been trying to share with people for a long time. Our heroes also take craps, and put their clothes on. And wake up at 3AM questioning their existential reality.
Once we acknowledge this, we are good to go.
I'm 33 and reasonably good looking in a major city. I dated for 5 or 6 years after breaking up from my LTR. I had no incentive to be in a relationship because I could keep having sex with a new girl and ditch girls when I found them annoying or whatever. Doing that for so long made sex begin to feel empty, which is the GROSSEST feeling. Like you're some kind of sick addict destroying your mind and soul. Guys, it's not a good path. Stay off it.
perfect!
That's why I never did the one night stands after observing others. It destroys self-esteem and the sex is sub par and affects how you see the opposite sex negatively.
@@mjohnson1741 haven't been able to go on more than one date before it ends up in the sheets since I was 16, its absolutely devastated my interest in women
Also, it's treating people like they're disposable objects.
Truth
Listening to this helped me feel like I wasn't alone... Thank you.
I appreciate how open and clear both of you are, and that you’ve allowed us to be part of your conversation 🙏
And here i am after 13 relationships in my late 30's, a monk.
"The lessons I wish I could tell my younger self -- the only way you learn these lessons is by living them."
No. You could listen to your dad (or your pastor) when he was trying to teach you.
"Experience is an expensive teacher, but fools will have no other." - Benjamin Franklin
Joni Mitchell isn't talking about "moves." She's talking about layers of a human being. If you want to meet the same person again and again, stay at the surface, and the way to do that is staying in the realm of superficial variety.
50 feels good. Especially if you’ve lived the majority of it off line and running around outside. The last 10 years I’ve had this stupid cell phone and it gave me what you’d expect, addiction, surveillance, loss of friends, attention deficit and social comparison that’s led to insomnia.
In my teens I skateboarded, chased girls constantly, had long meaningful relationships, read books! Worked a wide variety of jobs, knew everyone along the streets. Had about 40 phone numbers memorized and knew where my friends would likely be gathering.
Guys! Girls! Ditch this phone! Go outside and fall down a lot! You will thank yourself at 50. Trust me.
👍 man! Thank you ... .this helps me a lot. This phone is like an electronic leash.. Now they added multi factor authentication at work to it making it harder to run away from it😂.
@@Sanjay-uh5hx Hey bro! Hope you can ditch the thing. Or at least get a skateboard.
Amen.
I am a 22 year old woman
Options are an illusion when you measure against quality over quantity. I was an only child, my family members only had 1-2 children each. However, every couple in my life were married until their partners passed. I am now divorced and my ex was only my second relationship. I believe wholeheartedly in long term and substance. So now, in dating, if I don't meet an adequate partner I will remain celibate. I grew up Christian and am now just a spiritual being. That being said, if there's no value, principles or morals I'm not interested. Part of the problem is people tend to feel everyone's disposable.
I have 4 sons oldest is 36, youngest 14 all from same wife. I'm so very worried about my son's finding women decent enough to marry without ruining their lives.
Indeed.
I think most of us are looking for that most true beautiful union with a soul mate. We know as soon as we meet someone that their not for us, yet we entertain them for a while.
I am a Twin Flame, and once you meet your Divine counterpart, the journey of self discovery starts and true unconditional love for self and life.
There is a new template of “ relationship’s” coming in. We no longer wish to walk the path blindly of how a relationship should look to please society.
Nothing else matters than true unconditional love 🌸💕🌸🙏
Now is the time to find ourselves, and to start a relationship with our soul and Mother Father God 🦋
over 50 years in a respectful, kind, loving, courteous. supportive. relationship, it took effort from both of us, but it was so worth It, I miss him every day. Today I watch in dismay at the modern dating system and expectations and lack of respect.
Hugs.
During the vaccine controversy, I don't see how people were just being contrarian and doing the opposite. I think people were pretty consistent in being skeptical from the beginning and becoming increasingly skeptical for good reason.
Thank you. It was disappointing then alarming how some who previously prided themselves on being Anti-Big-Pharma suddenly trusted EVERYTHING government and pharma told us to do. Then people who said "Trust the Science" suddenly didn't want to hear open and transparent debate...between scientists! The Left spewed their narratives and name-calling, even when it didn't stick, i.e. Trump or DeSantis in the U.S. actually GOT the shots! LoL. Didn't matter. Their irrationality and gaslighting were full speed ahead.
Fair enough to be skeptical. But when hesitating between “the government are just a bunch of ordinary people that have barely a clue more about what to do” and “the government is a bunch of supervillains manipulating the very fabric of reality for them to obtain control over everyone else” choose the former over the latter. You may not have done the second, but there was a tremendous amount of that stuff going on too. Not fair to be lumped in with the loonies if you’re just rationally skeptical, but hey, we only have so much time and energy to process the subtleties/grayscales
@Adam Blois All of that and as soon as the media and government started "othering" and dehumanizing unvaccinated people I was done giving any benefit of the doubt.
Bananaing all talk about Dry hoxy clorkine told me all, I needed to know. It was NOT about lives - it was about CUN TROL...
@@mr-boo - In the U.S. the former option is more rational. When Trump was still in office and talk of the vaccines was going on Biden and Harris both voiced deep skepticism against anything Trump was touting, i.e. the coming shots, "Operation Warp Speed". Then when Biden got into office SUDDENLY everything from "the government" / Fauci was to be followed, no hard questions asked, no grown-up debate, no alternative therapies finding success in other parts of the world embraced, and shameless lies by the Media. ( The Left were Anti-Pharma, but now? Silence. The Democratic Party / Media / Hollywood / Academia. )
One can spin it as mere incompetence, but I actually respect such people as knowing d@mn well what they're doing, intelligent enough to utilize their power and numbers, and to endeavor to steamroll everyday skeptics and critical thinkers and truth-seekers who dare to not bow to their moral arrogance and offensive power grab. And the immorality of selling Fear. As Thomas Jefferson reminded the nation in his time: "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
It’s so nice to be 55 and no longer the object of men’s sexual attraction. When men stop and talk to me now it’s because they sincerely like who I am as a person. It’s so refreshing to connect with people on a deeper level without some ulterior motive involved. I enjoy men now because I have absolutely no need of them lol
😆 what a judgemental tool! You're why I don't talk to any girls. I'm sure you dressed the part too!
Been waiting for that since I was 12
Being an object of attraction is something most men would do literally anything for because they will never experience it and will be looked at as merely a source of resources until the day they die. For a lot of men, they will not even get that because they will not have sufficient resources.
To have someone attracted to you merely for existing is incomprehensible for them.
And, to be honest, you are deluding yourself by thinking you are not still an object of attraction at 55. Plus, if you do genuinely connect with a man on a deeper level, that will create an attraction.
@@Undomaranel same
Yes I can relate.
I have hope with the dating environment in the next few years. I know things could always get worse, but a lot of men are waking up to the absolute prideful degeneracy of modern women, and the tide can turn for the better. Don’t give terrible women any attention and don’t put up with reprehensible behaviour just because they put on a mask of beauty. Hold strong, brothers.
This is so nice to listen to two men just talking. No shouting just chatting and in a really sensible way. Thank you Anix
This is one of the most valuable conversations I've listened to. Thank you so much for creating this. Many mental thought issues I'm dealing with have been examined. Just hearing other human beings discussing these topics in an articulate language with sincerity has elevated my mood and spirit. Thank you both.
11:17 "Directly after copulation, the devil's laughter is heard" - Arthur Schopenhauer.
😮
How wheezy is your breathing? Panting sounds like laughing?
Marriage rates for blacks were higher than non-blacks in the 1950s. Business ownership higher in 50s. LBJ changed all that.
Wes - The fall in marriage rates can also be that children of unhappy marriage, don't want to have an unhappy marriage like their parents did. Let's face facts, most families in the western nations are Dysfunctional in some form. Most families have issues, then why would many want the same unhappy family life. Most children raised between 1920 to 1950 were from ."Not heard or seen" a child with no say or voice. So many witnessed their parents, unhappy.... they did not divorce but stayed together, with children listening to the infighting. Since 1970 the children were raised with hardly any discipline, told they are special. So many factors that relate to low marriage rates.
@@grit1679 his point is that the destruction of the family unit is what caused the problems the black community never really recovered from.
I am a big fan of Alan Watt's work. That was an amazing impression.
Yeah but... the alcohol thing bothers me. Alcohol almost ruined my life... and from what I read, I completely controlled him as it did me at the end. In that state I had no business giving advice to anyone. There's no one more lost and away from themselves than an alcoholic in the middle of a binge.
In the 80s and 90s we went out with no other expectation than to enjoy each other's company for a while, very different kinds today.
Life is a cruel teacher. She's gives you the test first, and the lesson afterwards.
Hey, good
or, you can be wise and learn from the mistakes of others. maybe that is why reading a lot is a great thing for kids to do. Auto-biographies where the writers are open about the pain they've invited into their lives can help us learn from others, but so can history and psychology books.
@@genkiferal7178 Or I can agree with both of you!
Looking up too your heroes. If by chance they are brutally honest about the hell they had to go through to reach that point, that can be one of the greatest facts growing youngins can realise. The constant nature of suffering.
It said Gen Z and afterwards basically have no heroes. they humanised them, all went through the old tweets, found some racist edgy stuff and canceled them.
I think it’s a new world where we have to acknowledge the human experience of the good with the bad
MLK might’ve been cheating on his wife but that doesn’t make any of the other things he did, any less valuable the one doesn’t negate the other
@@Pssst.ByTheWay I'm Gen Z, and I always idolised historical figures, fighters, athletes, great thinkers and innovators. I don't like any of the american idols aside from a few founding fathers and presidents as well as a couple civilians and madlads. Everyone should view their idols as they want to and yes it's important to have the real information about them out yes, but what's more important is the revery one places in their heroes, and how does that benefit their life. If not at all, reality checks are greatly varranted, just as how one has no right to ruin a hero of someone currently on the right path!
@@themagiccookie2614 interesting. Im gen y and i dont idolise anyone. Even growing up i kinda of had admiration for people but idolised, lije screaming at n sync or justin bieber.
But never idolised. 🤷♀️
Im sure there us a healthier way to promite aspiration without a swim or sink mentality of boo strapping sigma grind capitalism
Yup.
It's not glorious. It's survival mode constantly
Anna Shcherbakova I’d an amazing figure skater.
It was so interesting hearing her say adults shouldn’t tell kids to go for Olympic gold.
I like the thing that Aba and Preach essentially said which is “choose your own battles.” Doesn’t mean you can’t have an opinion on an issue or topic currently happening in the news, but there too many goddamn things just within your neighborhood, your family, your headspace, that could be not only taking up your time but also your energy and efforts; may be more pressing to you. You may see something on the news that is the hotline one week but be forgotten the next week until it heats up again, and they may be on one topic while there are thousands upon thousands of other things that may be much more pressing outside of where we habitat.
38 yr old mom here that entered the dating pool unexpectedly at 32. It was terrifying, painful, and dangerous at times. I got so lucky finding my mate on Tinder. Arguably, neither of us belonged on that app, both of our best friends talked us into it. I thank God for him (my fiance now) but am so grateful to be out of the dating pool.
guess what not only the majority of women on Tinder specifically, and bumble and match and hinge and all the others too meaning NO DIFFERENCE at all between the social circles just to clearly point out here, is that you yourself swapped eft on 80% of men and only 20% right and that confirms the majority of own are passing around the same 20% of narcissistic ego inflated men and you wonder why ALL YOUR EXPERIENCES ARE ALL THE SAME!!! Holy shit! What a strange unrelated coincidence right!! Wrong, its absolutely directly related 100% only and isolate to themselves. But you all will refuse to acknowledge the real truths in life. Its ok, you found someone, you dont need to think about and agree with the truth anymore, you can live in the fallacy that you did it correct finally once. But thats not the truth. You didnt change behaviors, the truth is you just got straight up lucky and found one of the good guys out of those 20%, which no one is saying there is not. Ill wait fo you response to chime back in with my extensive life and relationship experience ;)
I think everyone who meets each other in there considers one another shouldn't be on there.
😂😂
That’s so dumb
I've watched Chase review bags in sporadic intervals for nearly a quarter of my life. His small insights never cease to amaze me and his soothing voice never fails to calm me. I see so much of myself in him (and I know that makes no sense coming from a guy half his age) and hearing him talk about how rewarding he has found his journey of life to be so inspiring that it brings me to tears.
As a young person in today's day and age, it's been so difficult to find people who talk about the things that truly peak my interests and prod at my deepest motivations. I'm glad the two of you recorded this conversation and I implore you to record more.
Thank you
This talk hit me in the feels. We are all very lost.
A former freedom fighter in Denmark once said to my dad about "wishes" - "All I wanted was the little woman. And I got her". I wish I had heard that story from him, when I was 12, and not from my dad, when I was 50ish..
Im lucky, i found my husband before tinder was a thing. Being married turned out to be the greatest, most fullfilling experience of my life. I wish everyone got to experience it.
the wheel is still in spin. dont talk as if you already won. plus the family court is on your side.
I never will
Different strokes
Refreshing to hear a women speak about their husband with respect.
trtru they've won more than you ever will.
There are a lot of single people on here complaining about crappy online dating stories, but apparently there are single people here that could talk to each other 😂!! Yall make it happen!
People are too prescriptive in their dating descriptions. How about saying " interested in good hearted competent person with a view to committed relationship". That will scare off the 90% ...
@@alexs7671 so then the 10% would be the people you search for...
Wow. I was promiscuous in my 20's & 30's. One night, I told this poor guy I just couldn't do it. I didn't even know his name. Poor guy was baffled as hell. I was done..so lonely & empty inside then, the "partying", sex, it became boring..worse, soul crushing. Well, I've been married twice since then, both very physically abusive. I have a beautiful son, though. Common denominator: Me. I was kind of broken, and I set out to heal. That was good. It's good now, despite this messy life we all lead. When you have a close, caring, committed union, you have a shared history, you create your life together, have babies, maybe....you go through stuff. That's so cool & worth it. Course, it didn't work out for me in my marriages, but Lord, there are so many other little treasures scattered on this bumpy path. Family, friends, creative pursuits, the outdoors, dogs, kitties, food, interesting things, music,.I thought I'd die if I didn't have a lot of sex. Silly. Plus, I'm no prude or religious zealot, but I do believe in God. The life I lived brought me to my knees, and suddenly, these miracles started showing up, & I was stunned..no shit. I'm cynical, doubt-y. I know I'm not the only one who's had an awakening, it doesn't change anything, "bad" sh!t still happens; but it's how you look at it, how you respond, you're aware..you notice the lovely parts. Something shifted, the world didn't. Well, it's pretty screwed now, but you can laugh at a lot of it. Not all, but there is SO much more going on, you'll be OK. Even if you're convinced you won't. Mark my words.
It's so tough not to find a promiscuous woman these days. It sucks. The sad part is, you probably arent even close to the promiscuity these days. You'd probably look like an angel in comparison lmao.
Start telling these women the truth. It’s the responsibility of the sisterhood. These women won’t listen to men that they’re cutting off their future by giving into the bullshit lies being told to them by our culture. I’m afraid it’s only going to take the testament of women who have realized the truth too late to help the young women of today.
"True individuality comes not with defiance but with indifference."
Sadly in our culture (The West), we are actually taught that our successes are ours, but our *failures* are someone else's fault.
Great Episode! The key to shaving in the shower: hot water to open the pores, cold water to give you goose-bumps so when you shave you get the hair as far down as you can go 😅
That bit made me laugh so much! The hidden knowledge of women = fresh shaven legs in bed feels amazing! 😆
I feel like at some point, soonish, shit is going to hit the fan so hard it's going to paint the whole room.
People who got their long term partner already are kinda blessed.
I'm 46 and have been chaste for more than 15 years. I'd rather stay single and at peace than settle down with a man addicted to porn and or video games.
I've never dated. Totally my fault on multiple levels. But I also find it crushingly depressing that the way dating (seemingly) works now is so surface level. It makes it hard to want to overcome all the barriers I know I have created for myself. Makes it hard to see how.
Hey John, maybe don't jump right away into a fake system like an app or dating site, but get yourself together a little bit from your health/appearance/fitness point, and maybe start hanging out at your favorite coffee shop every day to try to establish a presence. If you become a regular and start integrating into small places like this, you may come across someone interesting who also notices you in return. Hope you get out there and make some moves.
I slept around a lot in my younger years and I loved every minute of a one-night stand. The little window into people was awesome. The pain was realising how difficult it was to find someone genuinely compatible with me but it meant I really knew what it was when it came along. If it's changed that much it sucks for young people. I've been married 10 years, with my wife 15 and I'm glad I went around the houses to find what I wanted because I think I chose really well as a result of it.
I had a very short period of time where I experienced the variety thing.
I went from super self conscious as a kid, to dating one girl most of highschool to finding out that a lot of girls liked me after I broke up with my highschool girlfriend.
I ended up picking one out of four girls that I was "seeing", and we dated for ten years, then married and had a kid.
After we had a kid, she went nuts, and we divorced. I still miss who she used to be.
I ended up getting married again to someone that I really didn't want to marry, but that's on me. She got pregnant, so I "did the right thing", even though I knew it was the wrong thing.
We have been separated for a year, and I'm awaiting the divorce papers.
Anyway, I picked the wrong horse, is what I'm trying to say.
I have just recently stumbled upon Chris Williamson after his appearance on Joe Rogan and I am simply blown away that this 34-year-old man exhibits what appears to be many lifetimes of wisdom. The most amazing part? He is every bit as curious now as he was when he started this journey.
As a Big Joe Rogan fan, I could never imagine not having his podcast to listen to. However, I imagine that if Joe Rogan was suddenly forced into retirement tomorrow and needed someone to take over his studio and carry on his legacy, it should be Chris Williamson.
Omg No Chris is annoying and comes across arrogant. His voice is boring. He takes himself so bloody seriously. Give me Jacked up Joe and his bro science and obsession with aliens. I'd rather listen to Alex Jones. Chris talks crap and what is this click bait let's hate on women title. Gtfo
Yes! What is success is a great question. I think that can only be defined in solitude, I don't mean not sharing but that the only worthwhile answer can only come from within, even while under the onslaught of rejection or even lack of response, and the heartbreak that will generate for sure! It is a worthwhile challenge, the question! Great interview!!!
I am completely single since 11/2017. I was in a relationship with a narcissist 😵💫. I didn’t know until I left him and start to realize who he really was…. Lord what a long wasted years of my life. Now I’m so frightening and I just don’t , can’t trust no one. I know out there has to be someone good or at least normal , but that will be a needle in a stack of hay….. so sad. I remember my grandma told me this will happen in the future and yes it’s happening
Get to know and trust yourself instead.
CHRIS, the way you describe yourself when asked what your plan is, is exactly how my mind operates too!! Just So nice to hear! I still, at 42 struggle against the feeling of deficiency. Inability to make plans, or even decisions of what career i'd like for myself is a big contributor to my feeling like I'm still a directionless POS who still hasn't found a fulfilling outlet. I excel in a social setting, could be a therapist, not sure if I even truly want to full time, but cant pass variable equations in college algebra. The only thing I've ever been sure of, is that I'm more principled than most humans, more innately wise, yet I only excel if taught a craft, one on one, from the ground up that can feel expert at. Unfortunately, my self worth is so low, and fear of committing to something I'm unsure of is so high, I havent found my calling yet, and feel I may die in my own personal hell.
Ouch 😖 I hope you're doing so much better since you posted this comment! 💗
Hot girl summer was about being inconsiderate and disrespectful to guys in the form of empowerment. Feral girl summer is also about be inconsiderate and disrespectful to guys of the form of empowerment.
Lead with love, not hate.
When you treat others causally, you are only treating yourself causally. When you are inconsiderate and disrespectful to others, in the long term, you are doing it to yourself. It’s an environment, echo, you’re creating for yourself.
They are just bringing bad karma onto themselves.
I like what Chase said about paradoxes. I feel like the way paradoxes are phrased isn't intended to confuse people, but to make them reevaluate what they think they know. Because the truth is usually more complex and malleable than we like to believe. In regards to the "responsibility paradox" 1:09:50, I think people who see responsibility as a rigid truth, they will try to take ownership over everything, all the time, and that can backfire. That's not to invalidate them, of course. Personally, I believe your weight of owenership will depend on what you believe in and what you care about. And that can change over time.
G.K. Chesterton said that a paradox was just truth standing on its head to get attention.
@@Ubu987 I think I agree with that, I'm not sure yet. I do believe that American rhetoric is chock-full of buzzwords that don't really mean anything( truth/lies, good/bad, natural, mature, intelligence, healthy, etc/vice versa). The way I see it, a paradox actually puts these words into question by pitting them against each other.
Paradox: Everyone is special. No other person can have the exact order, or specific events that make up your unique path to this very point in time. We are absolutely, each in our own unique way, just as special as the next.
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If everyone is special then no one is. Just like if there's no such thing as bad music then there can't be any good music. If we're going to pretend everything is good just because some people can't agree on what is good then we might as well all go live in used septic tanks.
@@charaznable9209 A stream is made up of many droplets of water. Each droplet within the stream seems insignificant. Only when the stream is dried up do the droplets appear 'special'.
Perhaps we should treat them as such before the well is dried.
Edit: Also @Char Aznable, it would appear that you treat the word 'special' as synonymous to the word 'good'. I would argue that the human species is 'bad' as a general rule of thumb, we are demonstrably more capable of being detrimental than we are of being beneficial to one another.
So, yeah, that's why the world is full of s*it? This simple fact does not help at all and it sounds like everyone is a wonderful person, which is not true.
Great talk. Never have I been so glad to be of WWII vintage. In an entrepreneurial phase I tried using a Franklin planner. It did not work for me. The best things in my life happened in spite of my plans, not because of them.
I treasure every day that is still granted me. It has been a good life.
I met a girl, we talked for a while just bs’ing and getting to know each other. I’ve been through 2 divorces and I have sole custody of 2 kids. I own my business, I went through a transition in my late 30s where I gave up drinking, really focused on self improvement. Now that girl I was talking too is now my fiancé, turns out she was 20 when we started talking and was already into older guys, I honestly thought she was maybe late 20s. It’s been the best relationship I’ve had. She’s been way more supportive than my two white ex wives. She’s El Salvadorian btw. Born in the states though. But still, when I met her I could see she was on the cusp of entering the degenerate lifestyle that leads to the cock carousel pushed by main stream influence. It’s gonna work out guys! I’m 40 btw
Chris, there’s a typo here: “The world is losing ITS mind,” not “it’s mind.”
Tell it to the auto-correct.
RIP, Thumbnail typo
Principle of Mentalism: 'THE ALL is Mind; the Universe is mental.' The Kybalion.
Why?
As my English teacher used to say, "It's is not its, it's it is". I hope that clears things up :)
The part about hammering a fence into the ground. I went to University so I had the 'choice' to help my mate out and hammer a fence in on Saturday afternoon rather than having to hammer fences in 5 days a week.
Dying of something as banal as alcohol. Reminded me of a scene in the movie Lawless. The elder Bondurant brother lives his life making moonshine during prohibition. Is afraid of nothing, and he gets into many fights...almost gets beheaded. Drinks and smokes continuously. As alcohol becomes legal again he settles down and beings to raise a family. One night, after dinner and drinking, he goes out to pee near a frozen lake. Slips and falls into the water but is able to climb out. This leads to pneumonia and he dies. The end
Should of stuck to kratom cause it warms the body
if people got p-monia from getting cold and wet p-monia would be endemic in the surfing community.
@@joejones9520 The surfing community doing a lot of surfing in frozen/freezing water, Joe?
@@zacheryeckard3051 yes. you dont know much about surfing. Ive surfed in water so cold when I wiped out it would give me a severe ice cream headache, that wasnt even very cold water compared to what some go out in. No pmonia tho.
@@joejones9520 What temperature?
You also probably weren't wearing winter clothes that kept the literally freezing cool water stuck to your body for however long it took to get home.
I started dating my ex girlfriend in 2007 until 2015. We met in college, as normal people did... in person.
When we broke up and I found myself dating again, I was floored at how much things had changed in the 8 years I was off the market. In 2016, I met my wife. I cannot imagine how much worse things have become.
It really depends on the type. I work with younger engineers and they are not crazy
@@Dan16673 Young, attractive female engineers that are not crazy? Please share your coordinates.
Its a lot harder to perform when you feel whole, than when your performance is filling a hole inside of you. Chris talking about existential compulsion. That was really well said.
Wow 😅 that’s some clean truth there!
that's one beautiflul, honest, deep conversation, thank You, both. keep on shining
Im between 30 and 40 and if that is accurate ( judging from the millions of YT and street interviews, it probably is) its not great to hear.
“Vapid and hollow.”
😭 so…..im fuxed
Sidebar:
I’m no longer about the hunt. I had a year of hunting (because I thought that was expected of me) and let me tell you, I have a year long post nut clarity. one night stands and casual hook ups completely lost any value to me.
Sex is meant to be this amazing experience ! but it’s really stopped feeling like that. maybe it was never that but to be honest I want it to be this amazing thing. rather than just a so Lala thing like brushing your teeth. Something you kind of just do, something that is at best a “meh!”
And I think that is a tragedy, that sex has lost its sparkle and magic and that it is something just willy-nilly handed out to everyone and that everyone is ultimately , very much disillusioned.
Maybe we have a small feeling that some thing is being denied
I often hear how baby boomers and Gen X had is so much better. houses were cheaper. jobs paid more and they had more sex, now… maybe they also just had better sex. Not this perma fleshlight reality
And considering the biology of all the hormones released it, could be so much more.
@@dialogos585 🥺 fax
@@impudentdomain trust issues🫡 aye aye captain
Especially with the RUclips algorithm feeding that fear and engagement monster with the juiciest most delicious videos possible
And it’s not even a recent thing a few years back you had that series of gold digger videos where a guy would try speak to a girl while standing on the pavement and she would pass him, often saying she had a bf. Then noticed him getting in his supercar and then running back. all of a sudden she was single.
And these days it’s Those street interviews where i just think. Wtf 😳
Yeah trust issues
But what is the alternative being naive over trusting? Its apparently a friggin wAr zone. Not being trust averse is like not wearing a bullet proof vest in that war
Naw fam im not about that life.
When i drive , i put in a seatbelt. Just in case.
casual sex is like trying to enjoy a delicious meal while trampolining at the same time.
@@dialogos585 To extend your analogy, it is now very difficult to just happen upon a fine dining establishment where you immerse yourself in a 5 course meal.
I met the Dalai Lama and he is more impressive in real life. His explanation of Tsongkhapa's Dependent Origination was a virtuoso performance.
The joy of making something. I do a bit of woodworking. I make a few walking sticks and canes over the years. Never made a fine but the people I gave them to treasure them. I remember every nick and groove. Every stroke of the knife and brush of shellac. I pour myself into my work.
Reading through these comments is horrifying and heartbreaking. I can’t believe this is where society is at.
I will say, it’s good to know that it’s just as difficult for men. Dating has been completely destroyed in modern culture, let alone marriage. Everything feels surface-level.
I love this discussion of what a “good life” looks like, I think people have lost sight of that entirely. I want to genuinely connect with people and these days, it feels like everyone is so disconnected.
There's too much distraction from entertainment for anybody to be real.
Dating is generally a lot more difficult for the average man than the average women. What amazes me is how women can’t see or recognise it. All this clap trap about feminism and equality but most women choose or just truely don’t care about any men’s issues whatsoever.
@@JiMMY-my1ds in order to do that they would have to look at something besides their face in the mirror.
Women need to own up to their own forms of toxicity. As a culture we’ve given them a pass on everything and now we want them to be reasonable? They grew up on Jersey Shore and
Adventure Time. MTV’s latter years. ‘NEXT’, remember that show?? I don’t. I never watched it.
As it stands women are so oblivious to what dating is like for men. They’ve been programmed into this crap Hypergamy and guys have followed suit by clout chasing and ego-rapping. Women have a lot more power to change men then they know. Men will do anything for a girl.
Girls won’t do “anything” for a man. That’s the problem. Women are valued way way too highly. They have wayyyy too much power in the sexual marketplace. Studies show only 20% of men are even getting dates that are attempting to. I’m sorry but it’s just a matter of being spoiled, dudes too, are very entitled, and it’s guys faults too for bowing down to the poom poom.
Sex is commercialized. Women are objectifying themselves gladly. Men are gleefully condemning all women based on 1 or 2 toxic relationships. (mgtow) (red pill)
@@JiMMY-my1ds That's because the average man doesn't exist to the average woman. Women only see/care about the ones the top guys that they're all gunning for
Getting dates is easier than ever for women, getting married to a great guy is really hard. Getting dates is really hard for men, getting married to a great woman is like trying to get into Harvard medical school and graduate, it's such a gauntlet to climb.
We are plagued with narcissism. I probably quote ‘The demand for racism far outstrips supply’ at least weekly. People have all kinds of idea’s about Gavin McInnes, where I think I first heard that phrase, but I was a subscriber to the network he was on and watched his show throughout the inception of The Proud Boys. I don’t know what they’re doing now and can’t vouch for anyone but myself, but Gavin is just an irreverent, interesting dude and the drinking club was supposed to by like an Elk’s Lodge kind of group but then the psychotic leftists on college campuses were cracking skulls with big bike locks and the Proud Boys offered to provide security. How do you become a Fascist in today’s America? Disagree with the now illiberal ‘liberals’, many of whom are legitimately backed by communist organizations. Anti-Fa is a communist group and their historical enemies are Fascists, so if you disagree with them, you’re a fascist. Meanwhile the Democrat party is collaborating with big tech to censor and propagandize us since the SMMA was signed by Obama in 2012, making it legal for the US government to lie and propagandize not only the rest of the world, but it’s citizens as well. That sounds an awful lot like Fascism, yet these clueless leftists have been so confused by the government, they’re acting as brown shirts for the establishment. It’s been shocking to watch the liberals abandon their values and literally become the racists they believe everyone else to be.
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Liberals have been 'quite' racists for decades.....
Underrated comment
Democrats are closeted racists. Dying to break free.
And it's funny because both sides (left vs. right) are the same, but you all refuse to see it because the existence of the other's point of view threatens your own personal survival strategy.
You make the same arguments against each other. You could go over to any leftist liberal platform and there would be a comment similar to yours, except they'd be blaming Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Bush Jr , Dick Cheney, Rumsfield and the far-right tea party for spreading right-wing government propaganda and assisting the big corporations to financially exploit the middle class in America.
The leftist would claim that antifa and BLM exist to protect liberals against right-wing provocateurs and white supremacists that attack them at their "peaceful rallies"... LoL
A counter to the Obama point would be that Trump proposed to, "take their guns away and ask questions later" which sounds very authoritarian in nature, but he was forgiven by his political constituency for such an egregious attack on the second amendment.
The political right attempted to storm the Capitol while Congress was in session and engaged in combat with law enforcement officers, so yeah... all of you appear to be trapped in cognitive bias.
"It's individual and collective narcissism" on both the right and the left.
“If you want to sleep with the same person over and over again sleep with lots of different people” that’s fascinating… and what I heard in that is that when we sleep with lots of different people the only person we’re really sleeping with over and over again is ourselves. Which makes an insightful kind of sense.
Joni Mitchel quote?
I’m 24 years old, extremely lucky to have a wonderful partner who is the OPPOSITE of what’s in the dating pool..:and the only reason why is because I decided to go after the OPPOSITE of my type! I have a good job, an apartment, a partner, friends and family who love me. What else could you want?! I’ve always been very different from people my age. People have always thought I was super weird because I was into…READING BOOKS. LOL! anyways, I wish I could just tell people my age that living a simple life will bring you so much happiness. Be so engrossed in the process of living your life that you don’t even need to ask existential questions
There is nothing else that a normal person would want, that’s the key, normal. You see you are like the 1% with how lucky you got. The rest of us got problems, and some of us think about exploding our brains daily.
Men at 24: I have a great high paying job and my wife loves me for who I am!!
Men at 34: I live in a van down by the river, my ex-wife only loved my money.
Fellow Autodidact ~" Read None dare Call It Conspiracy"(Gary Allen) and "Future Shock" (Alvin Toffler) You will see it has all come to pass ! "So many books so little time " !!!
The reference to people over a certain net worth only drinking sparkling water made me think of the relevancy of certain objects, products, actions in different cultures. I'm Italian and *everyone* drinks sparkling water, regardless of income or social status, if they like the stuff. The notion of sparkling water as a luxury item or a status symbol is alien to us.