My useless knowledge of the Smashing Pumpkins finally is useful. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was recorded almost entirely on a Marshall JMP-1 rack mount pre-amp, on the OD1 setting, but Siamese Dream did use a JCM-800. It was modded to use KT-88 output tubes. Billy dimed the master, and use the pre-amp to set the level, getting it just below the cusp of breakup. That being said, the jcm-800 sure does that sound justice.
Corgan's 800 and the big muff were definitely used on MCIS as well as Siamese. As was a universe of pedals and preamps and guitars. The JMP-1 was used, yes, but "almost entirely" is definitely not accurate. There was a mountain of gear used on that record and while the JMP-1 was no doubt a part of it, so were a lot of other things.
@@jamiewoodard4293 get you a Les Paul, a DS1 (yes, I know it was a super distortion feedbacker but the distortion circuit in that is a DS1) an Orange OR120 and an Ampeg V4 running 7027s and you’re set.
Being a 90's young dude at the time - was in my mid 20's - these tones/sounds had a HUGE influence in my musical taste. And THIS is EXACTLY what I tried to achieve with the Animalizzer, my "interpretation" of the Muff circuit. You got some great tones there, Sir! I mean, GREAT tones really! Congratulations!! :D Keep 'em coming!
Thanks so much for the kind words! I remember seeing Eirik of Living Room Gear Demo's video of the Animalizzer a while back and thought it sounded killer!
@@ZachWish Indeed Eirik did showcased it in a video some months ago. It's my "baby", I am biased - I know - but honestly I am yet to find a bad/unusable sound out of it. And also yet to receive a bad review. I must say, I am a proud "father". Really love how it turned out. And happy to deliver a musical tool to the community, helping guitarist/bassists. Really happy, I confess.
Man space hog was a nice addition to this. Really underrated band. Also love that you used ‘I hate myself and want to die’ instead of other more known nirvana tracks. Excellent job matching up the tones. Really felt like I could be listening to a ‘live’ rendition.
In the Meantime by Spacehog is such a "Good vibes" type of song. Another quality demo of a product worthy of the praise it gets considering it's history in 90's rock. And lol @ the suggestion about the Smashing Pumpkins. It's true though. I had one and would catch myself playing "Smashing Pumpkins-style" riffs often.
Thanks so much Josh! Yeah, I'm definitely guilty of it! Sometimes when you have that classic sound you've heard a million times at your fingertips, it's easy to just want to play those classic riffs vs finding your own voice. Appreciate the kind words and hope you're well.
Spacehog !!!!! I was in Middle school when that song came out, never forget having my FM radio wake me up at 6am and that song started from the beginning right then. I laid in bed and just listened to the whole thing and have loved it ever since!!!!
That's awesome! I know those AM alarm tunes all too well. I have such a strong association of "Been Caught Stealing" by Janes Addiction as the "Oh shit, gotta go to school" song. Good times. 👍
You played Hum! Dude great song choice, I was not expecting I'd like your hair long on here, usually it's stars if Hum ever gets mentioned. Anyways bro the tone for all the songs were on point man, great video, earned a sub and a like :)
Same for the big muff. I got an original "Civil war" grey/blue when they were new 1992 or 93 range. Traded it later towards a crappy MTB. :) Have had a tall font Green Russian big muff for quite some time after that first one. Cool you're still using your first two EH.
Pretty sure that was the combo most of those songs were recorded with. I know Billy Corgan used that exact combo for Gish and Siamese Dream. JCM800s were everywhere in the 90s, and they were pretty low gain so using a boost or a fuzz pedal was common back then. And the Big Muff was really popular back then.
Dang. I've had my big Big Muff in its box for a year, just because i don't have room on my board for it. You're inspiring me to _whip it out._ Sounds glorious. Crazy, how your clean tone is so clean, and the pedal does all that work. // This is one of those rare inspiring pedal videos where i don't have to spend any money! Wicked.
Great sounds! I have a 800 and almost always use the low input….and a 1978 OpAmp or 1981 transistor Big Muff. Both are great. The high input, with a pedal boosting it, is great for Thrash.
Hell yeah! New video! And it's another great winner with information and tones!! Thank you and hope all is well! I forgot to mention how badass that modded strat is.. love the red..🤘🏼
@@shawngrass5607 it’s a Les Paul Classic Custom. Not to be confused with the Les Paul Custom or the Les Paul Classic or the les Paul Custom Classic. I wish I were joking.
i'm a recent convert to the Muff gang. i've had a swollen pickle for many years but never gelled with it particularly because of the internal knobs and thisly kinda wrote off fuzz pedals ever working for me lol. got a ram's head reissue earlier this year and it changed my life.
Great video, man. Love the 90s sounds in there. Totally agree with your sentiments on the wall of sound from fuzzes (just got a hizumitas and a shigeharu), and couldn’t have said it better when you said they make you play by their rules. It’s like you are playing the pedal in addition to playing the guitar. Cheers!
Solid video. I recently discovered the beauty that is the low input of my jcm 800 and using a TS9 to get my favorite tones. Don't even go back to my high input nowadays.
That hum clip sounds very close to the recorded tone. Think they were using clean hiwatt and orange amps with various fuzz/distortion pedals but what you did there was pretty darn close. Would love to hear some sounds from Downward is Heavenward too.
We don’t get to see all the other stuff they running through, you can bet it’s not guitar straight into amp. He worked hours on hours to get these sounds this perfect
Fireball Ministry! That's the tone dude. I've got a Way huge Swollen Pickle for Muff style "riff thickening" which is magic if you want a little more control than the Muff.
I believe I read somewhere that Ronnie Montrose was using a Ram’s Head or Triangle era muff with a Plexi back in the day. He had some pretty killer tone.
Wow, I never managed to enjoy the Big Muff... but I never tried it in the Low input. Now that I'm using my JCM800 combo on the low input as a pedal amp for small gigs, I may just have to get a new Big Muff on my board!
I had a muff like that but with the other knobs! Great pedal, but I sold it because I was after that Op Amp tone like the one Billy used. The ones like ours rock, and you're right, it does make you play by its rules! I too found it hard to bond with them live, as did BC, but man after watching this I might have to go ahead and get that more SP-esque model for doing Hum and Pumpkins covers...keep up the good work!
What a way to end the video with another pumpkins like song.... its actually called I'd like your hair long by HUM. They too came from Illinois like the Pumpkins, and they sounded pretty similar, but with an actually hardcore edge. Definitely check em out, they influence Deftones to make be quiet and drive.
90s kicks ass! Yeah crazy how on the low channel you got close to the machine head rhythm. I believe Gavin used Expandora distortion and rhythm definitely a big muff! Loving this channel more and more.
Well I certainly learned something today..Iv been doing the Yngwie thing so long iv totally disregarded my rythem playing & you are a great rythem player, thanks for video🎸
Amazing tones in this vid! Please do a mix breakdown of this because I find fuzzed out guitars are so hard to mix. They’re either uncontrollably inaudible or so scooped that they get lost in my mixes. But yours sound great!
lol i was gonna say, before i read the description. you just described one of the classic Corgan signal paths. goes back to the siamese dream days but I'm sure was used on MCIS as well, as you demonstrate here. sounds really excellent man. cool selection of songs as well.
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My useless knowledge of the Smashing Pumpkins finally is useful. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was recorded almost entirely on a Marshall JMP-1 rack mount pre-amp, on the OD1 setting, but Siamese Dream did use a JCM-800. It was modded to use KT-88 output tubes. Billy dimed the master, and use the pre-amp to set the level, getting it just below the cusp of breakup. That being said, the jcm-800 sure does that sound justice.
Exactly. And Siamese was recorded with a Big muff pi.
@@ectoplasma5 it was a big Muff opamp, as used in the video. There was even a promo video with Billy when ehx reissued it.
@@gavinpearcey I must apologize. Praise the great Pumpkin !
Corgan's 800 and the big muff were definitely used on MCIS as well as Siamese. As was a universe of pedals and preamps and guitars. The JMP-1 was used, yes, but "almost entirely" is definitely not accurate. There was a mountain of gear used on that record and while the JMP-1 was no doubt a part of it, so were a lot of other things.
@@adamcoe tell me you haven’t seen any footage or read of Corgan speaking on his various tones for MCIS without telling me you haven’t.
Big muff +jcm800 =Smashing pumpkins
Damn, nice throwback. I saw Spacehog in a tiny club in Seattle in 1995 and this brought me back. Thanks.
Fluff do a Hum tone recreation
Man! Super jealous. I think in '95 the closest I got to that was borrowing my neighbors records and wishing I had a Playstation. Hope you're well!
@@jamiewoodard4293 get you a Les Paul, a DS1 (yes, I know it was a super distortion feedbacker but the distortion circuit in that is a DS1) an Orange OR120 and an Ampeg V4 running 7027s and you’re set.
Jelly fo sho
Case anyone is wondering the high input intro riff is Black Shuck by The Darkness
I've never heard anyone play any hum in a pedal demo, instantly subscribed
2 years late, but this is a relatively deep cut too.
I swear this is everything I use to jam to in my bedroom as a teenager in the 90s.
This and a Wah are all anyway really needs.
I love the sound of the big muff. It's like getting cozy by wrapping yourself in a warm comfy blanket and then being hit with a hammer 🙃
The moment I heard Hum, you earned my respect
Respect for including Spacehog and Hum 🤘🏼
I used my 800s low input with a RAT for almost 30 years
Being a 90's young dude at the time - was in my mid 20's - these tones/sounds had a HUGE influence in my musical taste. And THIS is EXACTLY what I tried to achieve with the Animalizzer, my "interpretation" of the Muff circuit. You got some great tones there, Sir! I mean, GREAT tones really! Congratulations!! :D Keep 'em coming!
Thanks so much for the kind words! I remember seeing Eirik of Living Room Gear Demo's video of the Animalizzer a while back and thought it sounded killer!
@@ZachWish Indeed Eirik did showcased it in a video some months ago. It's my "baby", I am biased - I know - but honestly I am yet to find a bad/unusable sound out of it. And also yet to receive a bad review. I must say, I am a proud "father". Really love how it turned out. And happy to deliver a musical tool to the community, helping guitarist/bassists. Really happy, I confess.
Yeah he nailed the tone. I was blown away the whole video.
@@HerroYuy246 makes us two :)
MORE HUM!!!!
Great vid, tones, and playing!
Man space hog was a nice addition to this. Really underrated band. Also love that you used ‘I hate myself and want to die’ instead of other more known nirvana tracks.
Excellent job matching up the tones. Really felt like I could be listening to a ‘live’ rendition.
Thanks so much Steve!
In the Meantime by Spacehog is such a "Good vibes" type of song.
Another quality demo of a product worthy of the praise it gets considering it's history in 90's rock.
And lol @ the suggestion about the Smashing Pumpkins. It's true though. I had one and would catch myself playing "Smashing Pumpkins-style" riffs often.
Thanks so much Josh! Yeah, I'm definitely guilty of it! Sometimes when you have that classic sound you've heard a million times at your fingertips, it's easy to just want to play those classic riffs vs finding your own voice. Appreciate the kind words and hope you're well.
Thanks, now I need a JCM 800 and Big Muff
killer tones, spot on like the original tracks.
Thanks so much Scott!
I'm super impressed. You nailed the 90s Mesa Rectifier sound using a Big Muff and Marshall.
Good work!
First time I've heard anyone make a muff pedal sound good on youtube, cheers.
My cheap electric strat copy..my fender champ and my big muff 1976...ah the great memories..couldn't play but I sounded so good...
Saw the title and instantly thought Smashing Pumpkins!
Damn! Love those Classic songs ❤️ Thank you, Fan here from Philippines 🇵🇭
Spacehog !!!!! I was in Middle school when that song came out, never forget having my FM radio wake me up at 6am and that song started from the beginning right then. I laid in bed and just listened to the whole thing and have loved it ever since!!!!
That's awesome! I know those AM alarm tunes all too well. I have such a strong association of "Been Caught Stealing" by Janes Addiction as the "Oh shit, gotta go to school" song. Good times. 👍
Mate, what a great video!!! Took me back to a great time in the 90s!!! Thank you so much!!!
It was nice to close my eyes and be back in the 90s again. The best music time in my life. Thanks
Jeez, you totally NAILED Machinehead. Fantastic!
You played Hum! Dude great song choice, I was not expecting I'd like your hair long on here, usually it's stars if Hum ever gets mentioned. Anyways bro the tone for all the songs were on point man, great video, earned a sub and a like :)
Absolutely loved how the Hum tone came out! And no need for an Orange :)
thank you for showing me HUM a couple of months ago! im not into pedals but i always appreciate the song selection
Right on, such a great band! Thanks for watching!
First pedal I ever bought was this big muff and their chorus pedal and still the only two pedals that never leave my board
Same for the big muff. I got an original "Civil war" grey/blue when they were new
1992 or 93 range. Traded it later towards a crappy MTB. :) Have had a tall font Green Russian big muff for quite some time after that first one. Cool you're still using your first two EH.
Man this video made me smile. Some of the best alternative tracks from my youth. I had no idea about the muff - time to get one and rock out!
Thanks so much for checking out the video!
Pretty sure that was the combo most of those songs were recorded with. I know Billy Corgan used that exact combo for Gish and Siamese Dream. JCM800s were everywhere in the 90s, and they were pretty low gain so using a boost or a fuzz pedal was common back then. And the Big Muff was really popular back then.
Dang. I've had my big Big Muff in its box for a year, just because i don't have room on my board for it. You're inspiring me to _whip it out._ Sounds glorious. Crazy, how your clean tone is so clean, and the pedal does all that work. // This is one of those rare inspiring pedal videos where i don't have to spend any money! Wicked.
Great sounds!
I have a 800 and almost always use the low input….and a 1978 OpAmp or 1981 transistor Big Muff. Both are great.
The high input, with a pedal boosting it, is great for Thrash.
Muff into Marshall is amazing doom tones. Love it.
That bush track sounds 1000% like the original- I was waiting for the “yeahyeahyeahyeahs” to come in.
Omg that is 90s rock. Wow. I never knew this was how it was done!
Killer comb… great tunes used for examples oh and yeah I find it next to impossible to not sound like the pumpkins 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Hell yeah! New video! And it's another great winner with information and tones!! Thank you and hope all is well!
I forgot to mention how badass that modded strat is.. love the red..🤘🏼
Damn these tones are the business! Can't wait to try these out!
That silverburst LP is just such a beauty.
OMG. I would kill for your Les Paul. It's one of the GOTW black Les paul
Fantastic playing, as always good sir. I might need to get a Big Muff now.
Thanks so much for checking out the video Devin!
Big pedals, big knobs, big riffs, big tones. Muffs rule
Yeahhhh buddy!
Sick tones as always man, and that black and gold Les Paul looks killer!
Thanks so much Logan!
I love that guitar too!! What year and model LP?
@@shawngrass5607 it’s a Les Paul Classic Custom. Not to be confused with the Les Paul Custom or the Les Paul Classic or the les Paul Custom Classic. I wish I were joking.
I was so happy when i heard him rocking Fireball Ministry :) Such an underrated band.
Wow! Authentic grunge sound! :)
You did a nice job of getting darker tones out of the op amp muff, especially the Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness tracks.
Bro I’ve never heard anyone playing space hog but I love this song so much I thought it was virtually unknown
i'm a recent convert to the Muff gang. i've had a swollen pickle for many years but never gelled with it particularly because of the internal knobs and thisly kinda wrote off fuzz pedals ever working for me lol. got a ram's head reissue earlier this year and it changed my life.
Nice nod to Hum there with “I’d Like Your Hair Long” - took a bit to remember. Killer tones man!
Love that tune! Thanks for watching!
I’m beyond blown away!
Big agree. Low input on these and also Sovtek Mig 60 are great neutral pedal platforms.
oh how much i love this channel !
This is the way. This is indeed tonal PERFECTION!
Instant fan of this channel!
Dude, In The Meantime? Subscribed. This video is awesome
Great job, sounds super close to the original tones! Silverburst on les pauls are my favorite. I am subbing for the Hum appreciation, amazing band
Nice work, sounded wicked!!
Great video. Loved all the samples of songs and demonstrations of pedal settings at the end.
Great video, man. Love the 90s sounds in there. Totally agree with your sentiments on the wall of sound from fuzzes (just got a hizumitas and a shigeharu), and couldn’t have said it better when you said they make you play by their rules. It’s like you are playing the pedal in addition to playing the guitar. Cheers!
Clicked because I knew there would be smashing pumpkins, to my surprise started with the darkness, love your vids man 🤘
Sounds great! J Mascis of Dinosaur Jr is another dude that gets some huge sounds piping a Big Muff through Marshall.
Awesome 🤩 Waiting for my first JCM800 to arrive… can’t wait.
Congrats! A desert island amp for me for sure.
Sounds awesome
Thanks so much!
Shoutout to Hum. Love that band.
That space hog jam is the shit. And playing HUM. Good stuff man
Cool, very sweet tones. We went out and bought big muffs right when Van Halen released their first album, we wanted/needed more gain. Haha
Solid video. I recently discovered the beauty that is the low input of my jcm 800 and using a TS9 to get my favorite tones. Don't even go back to my high input nowadays.
Once again. The best content on RUclips right now! Thanks for that Zak 🤘🏼
Thanks so much Billy!
It does sound fantastic
The amount of work you put into this video is incredible! Really enjoyed it.
Such great tones!! I've never used the low gain input, time to give it a try!
That hum clip sounds very close to the recorded tone. Think they were using clean hiwatt and orange amps with various fuzz/distortion pedals but what you did there was pretty darn close. Would love to hear some sounds from Downward is Heavenward too.
Another awesome video man! Sick tones, great playing, another helpful video! 🤘
Thanks so much Cameron!
We don’t get to see all the other stuff they running through, you can bet it’s not guitar straight into amp. He worked hours on hours to get these sounds this perfect
Sounds great i can't wait to get mine to pair with my Marshall SC20C!
Fireball Ministry! That's the tone dude.
I've got a Way huge Swollen Pickle for Muff style "riff thickening" which is magic if you want a little more control than the Muff.
Yeah buddy! I need to check out the Swollen Pickle more. Always thought they sounded cool. Hope you're doing well.
Amazing as always mate! Perfect tone and perfect playing! 😉👍
Thanks so much! Really appreciate it.
Fuck yes, I loved the inclusion of I like your hair long. Love to see Hum getting some shine.
Having been that grunge kid in the 90's and beeing a guitarist this is exactly my cup of tea
Awesome stuff as always! Please make a video that gives a look at all your awesome guitars 😊
Man, you've got some class!!
I believe I read somewhere that Ronnie Montrose was using a Ram’s Head or Triangle era muff with a Plexi back in the day. He had some pretty killer tone.
Wow, I never managed to enjoy the Big Muff... but I never tried it in the Low input. Now that I'm using my JCM800 combo on the low input as a pedal amp for small gigs, I may just have to get a new Big Muff on my board!
Killer tones man!
Thanks so much!
very nice collection of amps and guitars - you nailed the sound!
Sounds phenomenal!!
Thanks so much Ryan!
Big ups for Where Boys Fear to Tread!
I had a muff like that but with the other knobs! Great pedal, but I sold it because I was after that Op Amp tone like the one Billy used. The ones like ours rock, and you're right, it does make you play by its rules! I too found it hard to bond with them live, as did BC, but man after watching this I might have to go ahead and get that more SP-esque model for doing Hum and Pumpkins covers...keep up the good work!
The Op-Amp reissue is worth it
What a way to end the video with another pumpkins like song.... its actually called I'd like your hair long by HUM. They too came from Illinois like the Pumpkins, and they sounded pretty similar, but with an actually hardcore edge. Definitely check em out, they influence Deftones to make be quiet and drive.
90s kicks ass! Yeah crazy how on the low channel you got close to the machine head rhythm. I believe Gavin used Expandora distortion and rhythm definitely a big muff! Loving this channel more and more.
Thanks so much Dirk! Really appreciate it.
Love the silverburst!
Well I certainly learned something today..Iv been doing the Yngwie thing so long iv totally disregarded my rythem playing & you are a great rythem player, thanks for video🎸
Great stuff Zach!
Great to see the love for Bush!
SPACE HOG! Yeah man!
Such a great demo man...some of my favorite tunes from some of my best days in this video...always loved that Spacehog bassline
Thanks so much! Appreciate the kind words.
Amazing tones in this vid! Please do a mix breakdown of this because I find fuzzed out guitars are so hard to mix. They’re either uncontrollably inaudible or so scooped that they get lost in my mixes. But yours sound great!
+1. Tips for live use would be awesome too
thats exactly what billy corgan was thinking!!
lol i was gonna say, before i read the description. you just described one of the classic Corgan signal paths. goes back to the siamese dream days but I'm sure was used on MCIS as well, as you demonstrate here. sounds really excellent man. cool selection of songs as well.
Really awesome tones mate