Jink Maneuver
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
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One thing many people forget regarding missiles is that medium to long range air to air missiles often have a glide approach. They dont have the fuel capacity to burn the entire flight time, so they accelerate fast for a few seconds and then glide to the target. Turning hard to chase after a turning aircraft slows them down a lot, its called "bleeding energy". After multiple turns a missile might be too slow to follow the aircraft.
This is also why missiles are almost never fired at maximum range, specifically against maneuverable targets such as fighters.
Most ground based missile systems use solid rocket fuel boosters, think of new year fireworks but a different propellant type. Missiles fly on a semi-ballistic arc towards a target with some degree of maneuverability allowing change of direction towards the target. If the missile misses the target it will just continue going in that direction until the self-destruct timer runs out.
New missiles have second stage boosters that turn on when approaching the target to regain speed.
@@Maceoneonewhich?
@@kingdedede1066The Meteor. The Python (2 or 3, I think) and the new US one, Aim 260 or similar? I don’t recall the exact nomenclature off the top of my head. These new ones have sustainer engines, either in the form of an extra solid booster or a ramjet in the case of the Meteor.
I may be wrong about the exact details, I’m sure someone who knows can correct me, but a quick search with the info above will confirm.
@@kingdedede1066 R77M
The amputated F22 and aim120 R27 hybrid are giving me anxiety attack.
I thought i was the only one XD
amputated ?
@@ommsterlitz1805 The F22 doesn't have a tail
@@ommsterlitz1805no elevators
@@kilercard1920 it has a tail, not horizontal stabilizers
That's a nice F-21.5
XDDD i was wondering why it looked weird
Yeah, it lacks both tail planes
I think that is a YF-21
No it’s a F-22
With missing tailwings being chased by a AIM-120/R-27 offspring
Jinking is to defend against gunfire, short turns "out of plane". Missile defence is A LOT more complicated and you typically dont want to bleed your energy with violent jinking manouvers. Instead you make sure to bleed the missile's energy by putting it on your beam (right/left wingtip) and then turn to put the missle on your other beam thereby maximizing the missile's energy bleed. But that's not jinking.
I warmly recomment Growling Sidewinder's channel for anything air combat related. He explains it so well.
100% this. Jinking is a gun-avoidance maneuver.
At least someone knows lol😂
Yea thank you so many shorts with wrong information
GS!!!
This. Jinking a Fox 3 means you're bleeding your own energy and making it easy for the missile to close in and kill you.
The best way to evade a missile outside of countermeasures (chaff + flares) is by going low to dense air & running away from it (or "going cold").
AKA: "Random bullshit GO"
Pretty much. But its still an "well educated" random BS.
Its more like: "i've done all i could in my pilot career to make sure that thing did not connect and hit my aircraft. I got 2 seconds left, Now what do i do?........ehhh doing something random makes me unpredictable. I guess why not." At least thats how it goes in BVR engagement.
In Dogfights (BFM fights), jinking is a Masters Thesis Paper. The technique is well documented, applied, and historical example are undeniable. There is no randomness, any and every combination of movement has a purpose. Calling it Random BS brings Dishonour to Fighter Pilots of the old.
Guh
F-22 with weird vertical stabs and missing elevators
Yeah I noticed that too-
Fr elevator are missing it looks so weird
When you let an F-22 and a YF-23 in the hangar for too long
Was looking for this in the comments. I thought that maybe it was supposed to be an X-44 Manta or something.
That’s the Yf-23
Did he maneuver so hard he evaded his own elevators?
Must have
and rudders it looks like
"Ha, you jink"
What bro do to me:
That raptor jinked so hard it ripped its elevators off!!
This reawakens my Ace Combat memories of hearing those missile alerts non stop for three whole minutes
Just a slight correction on the animation. Flares don’t just pop out and cause the missile to change direction. Flares basically create a shield of targets for the missile but the missile goes through them so if you don’t change direction after launching them, the missile will likely still hit you
That's why you turn after using the flare
That and most modern missiles will ignore flares
"Modern" is anything newer then 70s
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@@dutchdragon2472 I was in a factory that made 'spectral flares' for the military. Spectral flares can fool modern heat seeking missiles. How we were taught was that modern heat seekers are clever. They go for temperatures that are exactly the temperatures of the trusters and a range or spectrum of temperatures to the cockpit. They also go for the object going the same direction and velocity of what they were fired at. Spectral flares burn at an uneven temperature with one end burning at the heat of the thrusters and the other at the temperature of the cockpit. They also decend gradually and at a similar velocity to the aircraft. The pilot has to pull up sharply letting the flare trick the missile.
The elevator-less F22 bothered me to no end.
Can't worry about the R77/AIM-120 mutt though, its got blue bands and cant hurt anyone. 😂
it's honestly entertaining by itself how little of this is correct, both in the visuals and the writing lmao great watch
Very surprising compared to their usual stuff tbh.
The intern must have tried to research this, failing to find the correct information, they just made it up after playing Ace Combat 6 😅 Great game though.
what an average war thunder player does when an enemy is behind them
Major Tullia might as well be the best of the best at these manoeuvres, dodging 8 radar and IR guided SAMs without any kind of countermeasure due to his flare and chaff dispenser malfunctioning. Absolute legend.
his massive balls acted as jamming device
i do not know how did you come into a conclusion that "he is the best of the best". alt pilots learn the same tactics and practice them in-flight. but true fact about your comment is only recent known video of an defending F-16 is from his flight.
what did they do to the F-22 😔
Its not the f-22 its the Yf-23
@@Tanknuggets217the YF-23 has a very different exhaust and also has the air intakes under the fuselage,not to mention it has very different wings and tail from the F-22
F-20.2 💀
But where are the horizontal stabilizers?
You mean horizontal?
Also this thing doesnt have rudders lol
Its the YF-23
@@Tanknuggets217 lol this is obviously f22 with no tail wings
MY ELEVATORS WHERE ARE THEY?!?!
@@Tanknuggets217acoustic?
The Aim-9 when I fly into the sun:
i saw a video from desert storm of a pilot evading anti air missiles. every time a missile got close, and they had to evade, you could hear them breathing so hard, it sounded like they were having a panic attack. SO SCARY
They're breathing so hard not because they're just panicking, but they're doing high G maneuvers that essentially multiply their weight in tight turns, causing their blood to pull away from their brain that will make them blackout after a few seconds
@@foxman3777for inexperienced jet pilots yes they’ll black out from Gs but an experienced fighter pilot can pull a ridiculous amount of Gs for an excessive time with loss of conciseness
Yup. Turning a jet is a teal workout for pilots.
@@foxman3777 oh wow i never looked at it that way
Modern/advanced missiles are (most likely) capable to out maneuver most (probably) any aircraft. They cannot predict an escape maneuver, but their algorithms think in terms of envelops and probabilities, and will ignore even flares in certain situations. Very long range missile shots and electronic countermeasures are increasingly pilots’ best options.
yeah exactly. modern missiles can easily pull 30+ g's so manuvering isnt what gets them to miss you most of the time. if the missile is at max speed and you perfectly time your manuver then yeah its possible that the missiles turn radius will be too large and just barely miss but literally everything has to go right for that to happen. from what ive gathered (not a fighter pilot just some person who likes planes im not a credible source) the best way to defeat a missile is to, as you said, be able to shoot at longer range then the enemy and to use jamming. apprently chaff also barely does shit unless your perfectly in the notch so in general i think they jsut use jamming and smooth turns (to minimise energy loss of the aircraft) to bleed energy from the missile.
I just want to say thank you guys for knowing this stuff and for wearing the uniform.
Brave men and women. Thank you.
We all know Behind Enemy Lines is Hollywood's version of combat ace. Trying to evade a defense missiles attack takes just under 90 seconds to down an aircraft and you cannot go head to head with an incoming missile.
An AIM-9X can pull 60G's. If you think you're going to our turn that. Then be my guess. Especially when it has an angular or other fragmentation blast radius with a proximity fuse to increase probability of kill.
Jinking is a BVR concept. The real reason it works is because when the missile is moving to intercept the fighter the rocket motor is usually already out, so turning pulls the missile to glide a different direction, which bleeds energy.
from what i understand jinking really isnt used in bvr. its a sudden change in direction used to dogfight to escape bullets. in bvr jinking will get you killed cuz it bleeds your energy a lot while barely making the missile readjust course at all. for bvr youd wanna crank or notch. basically just stay fast and do very smooth turns. if your doing mach 1 (im gonna exagerate here a little) and turn 15 degrees the missile will have to turn way more then if your going 200 knots and turn 80 degrees. (not a figther pilot this is all just information ive heard from interviews or simulators so dont take this as facts and please correct me if im wrong)
Flairs work against heat seekers, Maneuvers work against sams because sams dont turn and chase, the predict and explode where they think youre going to be, and stealth defeats radar guided. There are other systems but those typically require visual range and have their own drawbacks. These days, over the horizon long range missiles fired by stealth planes is the most effective and safe method of engaging enemy aircraft
Man this channel got big af, i watched your third video and loved it, glad your doing good
The Jenkem Maneuver goes hard
Most pilots call it pulling a LEERROOOOYYY.
Meanwhile the missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't.
This only works if the missile doesnt know where it isn't
Me doing a Corkscrew manoeuvre: 🗿
Missile: 1001% accuracy
They also use a probe that they tow behind them, that's emits radar similar to the plane
I like how he specified that the manoeuvres are within three axes 😂 like there’s a secret fourth dimension the pilot could play around with
Please post more videos like this about modern aerial warfare.
When a fox-3 or radar homing self guided missile (aamram/meteor) is thought to have been launched, a pilot will actually perform a notch maneuver, dumping altitude forcing the incoming missile into denser air where it is less maneuverable. Chaff can also be deployed. The sharp maneuver ad deploying if flares is usually performed in a dog fight where fox-3 short range all aspect or heat seeking missiles like the AIM-9X are deployed
Ace Combat players:
*proceeds defying physics
I love how he mentions the roll as an evasive maneuver lol. The roll to inverted is simply to make the Gs positive on the rapid pull down.
50g missiles have entered the chat
You have basically three ways to defeat a missile :
1 you bleed its energy until it can't catch you
2 you manœuver to make it overcorrect until it lose you or can't pull a sharp enough turn to hit you
3 you confuse the seeker with either physical or electronical countermeasures
If the enemy pilot did its job correctly on the launch parameters, 1 and 2 are very unlikely to happen because modern missiles have a lot of energy and advanced guidance systems.
Whoever removed amputated the horizental stabilizers is crazy
When jets have autonomous wingmen protecting them from behind, they won’t only have one or two extra vehicles behind them to defeat the threat, or at the very least, take the threat instead of the manned jet, but all the visual and sensor data those drones pick up can be fed directly into the pilot hud. They would wear helmets like the f35 and literally be able to see every single thing around them 360 degrees, with the ability to zoom in and change spectrums. They could even use a brain machine interface or eeg type technology to control features like that with your mind instead of buttons.
The missle knows where it is at all times.
*my raptor is missing their elevators*
It's really impressive how pilots can handle situations like that
Mfs with 20k hours of war thunder experience🗿
Unless the enemy is carrying those Gaijin rockets 😂
What if we make the missile explosion bigger, there is a possibility that if the jet avoids it, it will be hit by some missile fragments, perhaps or use an EMP missile.
Bros elevators went to nowhere💀
The fighter puts the plane in notch position that means moving along a path roughly 90degrees to the missile with the smallest possible radar cross section presented to the missile. They will also reduce altitude in order to force the missle to move through denser air so that they bleed speed quicker.
Ace combat 7 had me doing this shit every 4 seconds man
We need a full video on modem air combat especially bvr
i like this channel
By subtracting where its elevators are from where its elevators are not, the F22 knows how to evade the missile.
The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn’t
this is an immensely simplified explanation of defending, for example they only talk about missiles coming from directly behind, theres still the other lateral and vertical directions that completely change the approach
Therapist: Delta wing Raptor is not real it can’t hurt you
Delta wing raptor: Watch me
The fact that they neutered that F-22 is seriously messed up...
bro "1 and a half radar divisions away" 😭😭😭
1.5 grid divisions? Is that an SI unit I missed at school 😂
Jinking is against gunfire, missle defense is done by banking away from them and using chaff/flares
dude the new f2.05 looks sick
"1 ½ radar divisions" lmao
That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.
Jinking is a gun defense. It’s used to make a short range ballistic firing solution more difficult. Missiles are defeated in an energetic contest, not by trying to turn so fast you startle a homing radar.
Jinking against a missile is done to eat up the energy that the missile has. When the missile is a long ways away it has to make large Corrections for small changes in the target and this can cause it to use up a lot of fuel and or energy
Tom Cruise “hold my beer”
I love the Raptor missing its elevator
Jinking is used to avoid guns not missiles the way one avoids missiles is by traveling perpendicular to the missile and going into the thicker atmosphere
They generally drop altitude to get the missile to descend into denser air to slow it down and lose its finite fuel source.
Unless it's battlefield then you gotta worry about getting sniped out of your cockpit
POV: every ace combat protagonist
Danf this aircraft and missile feels straight out of Ace Combat
Meanwhile missiles in anime turn 90 degree in instant 😂
That aint F22 Raptor thats F2.2 Chicken💀
What hell has that raptor gone through in order to be flying without vertical and horizontal stabilizers💀
Love the blue bands of the missile in flight.
F-22? No
YF-23? No!
F-22.5!
the elevator was missing on your f-22 DX
War thunder player here 😅. That’s a « radar » missile pictured here. But modern radar missile know to avoid chaff. Those missiles usually come from long range. The only way to avoid it is to bleed its energy and fly 90 degrees from it. But I don’t know if notching works on modern missiles.
It is never the aircraft, it's the pilot.
Absolutely interesting! Wow!!
Russian pilot: *Proceeds to do a kevochers bell*
didnt anybody notice the fact the the f22 didnt have elevators at the start
Basically if you can dodge it’s 50% the battle in a head to head air to air dogfight. Overshoot them, you can get them, as long as they don’t overshoot you.
Ps: I’m at a party taking a shit. Take everything I say rn w a grain of salt.
Meanwhile, Hollywood missile: Follow aircraft tail everywhere.
Jinking is the dogfight thing
The missile knows at all times where it is bc it knows where it isn't
war thunder players are masters at this💀
Jelqing also works really well
So basically the “oh fuck let’s spam the joystick all over the place” move.
Guys where is the F-22’s elevator? 💀
This hole video was missing more than the 2 wings on that F-22.
Tail-Less F22 intensifies XDDDDD
why did they take my boys elevators
That's the “Ankle Braker”
Hey! Let’s just give away all of our secrets
He’s using one model. It doesn’t include yaw fins or the pitch ailerons because those are separate models so it can move! Aswell as roll ailerons idk if you can the pitch ones right but some plane nerd is gonna correct me I’m calling it
Evade successfully with flares AIM-9X in DCS: *Hello again*
Using a Raptor for this visualization is quite possibly one of the stupidest choices ever.
If an F-22 has been detected, locked and fired on, something has gone very wrong.
The F-22 is missing its horizontal stabilizers
Only a real ace can turn like that without a horizontal tail or rudders. God damn.
He got da F22 wit no elevators???