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In Monty's defense - watching Monty's decision making so far has inspired me to think that - "hey, I might have what it takes to coach an NBA team too" - I'd at least be able to coach a team to 19 straight losses. : /
Who cares ?? 😂 Pistons have 3 chips… Wolves will be forever limited, including this current team as Gobert will be exposed in the Playoffs as always. Congrats on your regular season success ! 😂🎉
@@mrfortwashyeah and good for them, they earned those chips. I like seeing smaller markets succeed. Detroit years ago, Milwaukee and Denver recently. I'm over the Celtics and Lakers. I'm happy to see the Warriors aging and imploding
The big disconnect for this season started in the front office. Tom Gore's wanted to make the big splash by signing Monty & Troy Weaver wanted to hire Kevin Ollie from OTE. Knowing that you can see how hiring Monty changed Troy's plans. I believe Kevin Ollie would have featured Ausar more & found more creative ways to use him. Hopefully this is just a really rough start & the front office can find a way to make some positive progress with this team without doing anything stupid.
@@3mrwrightActuallt, the BIGGEST DISCONNECT is FANS from the impact of the "DEATH SCHEDULE"... A TRUE DISCONNECT FROM REALITY... SO THE MR. KNOW-IT-ALLS CAN NITPICK, FAULT-FIND, FINGERPOINT, AND FRONT LIKE THEY'RE THE "ANSWER GRAPE". 😅🤣😅 Mention the schedule and: EVASIVE PATTERN DELTA 5!
FLAT OUT LIES!! If it was coming from a place of LOVE, you'd mention the Pistons had the HARDEST 20 GAME OPENING SCHEDULE IN NBA HISTORY. BAR NONE. BLAMING THE COACH IS COMING FROM A PLACE OF HATE, WHERE YOU AVOID TALKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE: EVASIVE PATTERN DELTA 5.
As a Suns fan, I tried to warn y'all Monty was an awful coach. He was just in the right place at the right time with the Suns. He frequently made horrible decisions. Killian is his new Shamet / Ish Wainwright
Suns fans really did say this, there were dudes on Reddit celebrating Monty leaving, they knew how bad it would get, got ride of the cancer, and are still playing playoff ball without him
I warned fellow Piston fans similarly. His x's and o's left a lot to be desired, he had major red flags considering how fast his Phoenix squad imploded, and that he would likely botch player development. And now that's exactly what's happened. I hope coach Casey wasn't pushed out by the front office/owner. He seemed to have the ideal approach for developing the young guys.
Monty was bailed out by having an on court coach in cp3 in Phoenix, not to mention booker being great and getting better. I saw in the playoffs in 2022 against the pels how monty was selling, and it showed against the mavs
Kevin Ollie was the guy Troy Weaver wanted, and he fit the Pistons timeline perfectly. Tom Gores is a cokebrained nincompoop, and had to get Monty... Like you said, Monty doesn't even want to be here. Kevin however is a young hungry coach with great mentorship ability. Monty is overrated, having KD and CP3 doesn't mean you're a good coach, period.
Where was this comment six months ago when they were interviewing coaches? You wanted Monty over Kevin Ollie just like the rest of us at the time they hired him.
He got more credit than he deserves…he wasn’t good in the suns till the bubble 8-0 run, and next season he had CP3 to lead the team… See how he screw up his relationship with Ayton should show how bad he is as a people person… By the way if someone wants to argue the players are the one who suck, then pls don’t give him the credit when the team wins…if he takes the credit such as coach of the year, then he should take the blame too when the team lose
I’m a bulls fan and we are currently going through our own mess but this is sad honestly for the pistons . Got a lot of talent but it’s just not working . What’s going on with Ivey, Cade and such . So sad to see talented guys get screwed like this
Detroit Pistons can be the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NBA. Detroit Pistons system in 2008 was defense in a couple of shooters. First Friday general manager of the Detroit Pistons and find somebody who understands Detroit basketball defense
I think it is hilarious that Jaden Ivey came out and said I don’t want to go to the kings and the kings are a good team and the team he’s stuck on now is awful
Monty is going to ruin Ivey, and we're going to have to trade him for pennies on the dollar. A #5 pick who loved being a Piston, and who has consistently played well - and we can't develop him? I think Monty wants to get fired - terrible thing to say about a coach, but nothing else makes sense.
I’m from Detroit and have had league pass the last 4 years. I was excited with the possibilities of Monty, especially when we started 2-1. But he’s a joke! Petty little man that can’t communicate, holds grudges over petty stuff. He’s a child that has to do everything his way no matter the failings. I think getting rid of him asap. Yes you pay out the ass but save the team from destroying all the young talent.
@@Lewis-jn8ry That's my guess too. Especaily if all our young talent just wants out and to restart their careers elsewhere. There will have to be a rebuild after this rebuild has been abandoned. It will take years.
Why are we using the "diversity hire" argument when the spurs are on a nice little 15 game losing streak(with one of the greatest _white_ coaches)? You make it seem like if it wasn't a black coach they'd be winning games, but spurs are probably just as much evidence that isn't absolute
Rocket/piston fan for life here.. I can tell you Pistons fans are so mad at how Monty refuses to start Ivey.. they love Ivey and he WANTED to be a piston
@@getlikecoop Pistons need a rockets approach.. some solid vets who can lead and help develop the young guys. Bojan is a start but they need a championship vet I don’t think Monty is as good as advertised
only dumb ones are. Right now, Killian is better than him. Let him earn his minutes, and get better as a defender. Jaden is great offensive talent, but the mistakes he makes defensively are inexcusable, so I understand the frustration that Monty is displaying with him. Killian Hayes is also getting better, and is so much better than Ivey as a defender, distributor, ball handler, and I'm on board with him starting over Ivey. Ivey just needs to play with focus and get better, and his minutes with come.
I been a Pistons fan since the Billups,Hamilton, Prince and the Wallace days but wow this team has been going down the drain since Dumars traded away Billups for Allen Iverson for me yes I witnessed the Andre Drummond and Blake Griffin era that was the last time the Pistons were "good" ☹️
I'm just happy Monty got paid. Idc if he only last 1 season, most coaches doesn't even max out their career earnings at $25 million, so Monty getting $20-25 million/season is a huge W for him! What alot of people are failing to understand is this, there is business, then there's BUSINESS business. Therefore, if a big company is gonna throw you $20 million to do the same thing you did, would YOU yourself say no? Answer truthfully.
Pistons should've paid the trainers and scout team more in terms of bonuses for performance of the players rather than the coach, especially if your team was horrible for the past decade.
First thing I’d do is try to use Bogdan and Bagley/Wiseman to get back Saddiq Bey and Aj Griffin. A line up of Cade, Ausar, Griffins, Bey and Duren would be a good lineup to develop. You’d still have Ivey, Hayes and Stewart and Bagley/Wiseman
At this point it’s hard to define what salvaging this season means. They could probably develop their young core a bit more but there’s absolutely no expectation possible as they are already 18 games below 500 at this point
I have a feeling this is 2024 NBA draft won't be as bad as they think it is... Look at the 2020 draft studs throughout the first and even second..... It was labeled a one man draft in Edwards
I'm so tired of people saying they are better than their record. No they are not, they have that record for a reason! Actually watch the games! Not only are they not very skilled, but the effort is zero. They don't care at all about winning, and why should they, they get paid regardless.
Monty showed up carrying a big cloud…instead of embracing the entire team showing up to give him love at the presser, he decided to drive an ice pick into the foundation of the team and bench and limit time on Ivey as we pile up loses…We had no issues drama wise, now we have this…Thanks guy.
CUT OUT THE "WE" CRAP! YOU WANNA BE STARTING SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY. YOU WOULD SOW SEEDS OF DISCORD. IVEY GETS FATIGUED, TOO. IF HE DOESN'T, HE WON'T LVL UP HIS STAMINA! NOW WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SCHEDULE? WOULD YOU BE COOL WITH IT HAPPENING EVERY YEAR?
there was a point in this magic game tonight ivey would've scored 12 points straight but because of fouls those shots didn't count, if he would have played more than 18 minutes and got fed the ball specifically to score, we probably would've beat the magic, but we have to run every single possible play through cade or Killian Hayes. I love Detroit but just trade Ivey, I want him to shine somewhere he'll have a chance to.
They gave Mont’ money a lot of power and now he’s figuring out what he has, as they try to conclude the rebuild with this group and learn a very difficult new offense. I’m surprised no one is talking about how they are leaning the .5 and their biggest issue is turn overs. Once that’s under control they will at least have a respectable game while having figured out what they have in the whole team and who they need to trade, cut, develop and everything else. The current situation is historically hard to watch but hopefully it makes these young guys grow up into some bad going to work boys.
So Monty Williams is literally just the Jason Kidd for Detroit. He sees guys like Killian Hayes who are mid as hell to be able to start. Just like Jason Kidd sees guys like Dwight Powell as starters for some reason when they are trash.
This might end up being a bigger flop than Darko. This is so embarrassing as a Pistons fan. This roster is also terrible, perhaps the worst team in Pistons history. Don’t think this gets any better until Gores sells the team and we get a new GM. The entire team might have to be blown up.
Just because Monty is an NBA coach doesn’t mean he is smarter than everyone person not coaching. He is not a good coach. The Suns didn’t run any plays other set a screen for Booker or KD to get the ball, then stand around and watch them go 1-on-1. Monty’s bench rotation was also nonsensical in Phoenix. We had 2 of the best back-up shooters in the league in Lee and Ross, yet Monty just benched them for no explicable reason late in the year and in the playoffs. We had a terrific backup center in Biyombo who could at least contest anyone at the rim, yet Monty would rather watch Zion score 30 in the paint on Ayton and Landale. Monty also would make stupid decisions out the wazzooo with his timeouts and challenges. And u could go on and on. Point is, Monty is not a good coach. He has an “in” in the league. And because the Suns players were good he got over paid.
Pg- Cade Sg- Ivey Sf- Ausar Pf- Bogdan(for spacing and shooting) C- Duren There is no way that team is not fighting for a play-in spot. I just don't understand what the coach likes about killin so much....he's not nearly as good as Ivey
@@kwekueghana3683 GTFOH Burks, Livers both shoot almost 40% from 3. Bagley is a very good scorer too. That is 3 dudes that can get buckets right there. Hayes is a compliment scorer and will have his moments also. And Beef Stew will still shoot an efficient but super slow 3 when he has 20' of space to wind up and shoot it, or hustle buckets off pick and rolls, put backs, etc. Plenty of scoring and shooting on that bench, some defense too.
My exact thoughts and I am glad to see others feel the same way. To me, that lineup is the incredibly obvious correct lineup. I'm at a loss as to why this coach can't figure this out. Or why he is clearly a worse coach than the last coach, or why anyone says that he is a players coach, these young men look f'ing disconnected from him entirely and absolutely miserable, they ain't playing for him or with him, it's as if he is not even coaching them. That is how they act, they need answers and fixes to match their effort but he wants to talk about shat like shooting. Not that his defense is not moving in transition, or switching correctly, or stunting correctly, or helping correctly, or going under or over screens correctly...this is the worst basketball I have ever watched in the NBA. I watch every night, multiple games, for a decade. This is as bad as any of those teams. They might beat last year's Spurs? Maybe? They can't beat last year's Pistons team, despite adding talent and a new coach, go f'ing figure. I believe that too. In a simulation that somerhow resembled reality, last years Pistons would dominate this team. How isn't it coaching, then??? This is awful. I don't think they can't beat a single team right now. I mean, Memphis is awful, they easily beat up Detroit. Wizards are awful, they beat Detroit by 19 in Detroit. Blazers beat them by 9. Nuggets beat them in Detroit without Joker half the game, or Murray, or Gordon. Two starters, haha. They beat the lousy Hornets, but before Rozier was back or Bridges, I doubt they beat them now. And somehow OKC!? Weird, super weird. Can they beat the Spurs!? I don't think that they can. Do they win 10 games? I don't think so. This is historically bad.
Tom Gore payed an average coach ( Monty Williams ) with a good roster in Phoenix as if he was Phil Jackson with a loaded roster. As if coaching one of the worst rosters in the league for the best decade would actually increase wins. Any competent owner knows that acquiring talent supersede coaching. Btw want dirt Troy Weaver has on Tom Gore to continue to keep his job..smh!
its his first season, give him some time. he signed a 6 year contract with Detroit. Its shows that Detroit front office knows that its will take 3-4 year minimum to rebuild this team.
Give him some time ? Dwayne Casey won more games purposely tanking for wemby without Cade, sasser and Ausar and you’re saying give him time ? Monty is a con artist he wants to get fired!!!
He's being paid to coach, and he's just getting started. Give him a chance to figure out his situation and how to fix it before you count him out. He's proven himself already. Give him a chance to show what he's cooking up.
Pistons owner needs to sell the team and everyone should be fired .. Monty finessed Detroit .. I even called it when he had his press conference before the season.. he looked bored and uninterested
why he making it hard. cade,ivey,thompson,duren,stewart. with hayes of the bench since he can play 1-3 he can find minutes. forget the wiseman and marvin bagley bust experiment send them both to the g-league and play 40 mins per game
I watch the game and to me it seems like Cade and Ivey are not playing well together. I watch Ivey pass up an easy pass to Cade for a more difficult one to Burks. They should just start all 3 guards Bojan and Bags or Duren when he gets back.
NO REASON they shouldn't be as good as when... BOGDANOVIC ACTUALLY DOES PLAY... WHEN HE IS OUT... EINSTEIN THE DOOFUS STRIKES AGAIN. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?
After tonight game..somebody need to get fire.!!..this is uncalled for….Looks like montey the dictator just lost his army..and the piston organization can’t do shit about it..haha..
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Damn I thought Stan Van Gundy was bad. Monty : "Hold my beer"
Shoutout to Monty securing generational wealth!
Fr lol im definitely not mad at em
And doing absolutely nothing to earn it.
Can they use the stretch provision on a coaches contract?? Lol as bad a hiring as that Josh Smith 54mil to play SF next to Monroe and Drummond
Yay, rich entitled kids?
Was in town for Work and saw the Detroit Pistons 4 times, the line ups switched up every single game. Wild what they’re doing to them young boys
Fr it’s bad. I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing it. Amazing how important finding the right situation for any player can be for their career.
I think Monty’s trying to get fired on purpose 😂
Monty got the bag and turned on the CPU mode while he dipped and made some pizza rolls. Damn
In Monty's defense - watching Monty's decision making so far has inspired me to think that - "hey, I might have what it takes to coach an NBA team too" - I'd at least be able to coach a team to 19 straight losses. : /
It's harder than it looks... Apparently 😂
LOl.. I was thinking the same thing... But I know that I can coach them to get wins.. No doubt about it!
same thing goes w darvin ham
So happy my Timberwolves are climbing out of the poverty that the Pistons are currently in
We can only pray to God that it stays that way. Who knows with this team.
Who cares ?? 😂 Pistons have 3 chips… Wolves will be forever limited, including this current team as Gobert will be exposed in the Playoffs as always. Congrats on your regular season success ! 😂🎉
@@mrfortwashyeah and good for them, they earned those chips. I like seeing smaller markets succeed. Detroit years ago, Milwaukee and Denver recently. I'm over the Celtics and Lakers. I'm happy to see the Warriors aging and imploding
Pistons fans I want you to know that this is coming from a place of love 🫡
The big disconnect for this season started in the front office. Tom Gore's wanted to make the big splash by signing Monty & Troy Weaver wanted to hire Kevin Ollie from OTE.
Knowing that you can see how hiring Monty changed Troy's plans. I believe Kevin Ollie would have featured Ausar more & found more creative ways to use him.
Hopefully this is just a really rough start & the front office can find a way to make some positive progress with this team without doing anything stupid.
Nothing someone has to say hurts more than the product we are seeing….. We have officially hit the abyss….. With no silver lining in sight….
@@3mrwrightActuallt, the BIGGEST DISCONNECT is FANS from the impact of the "DEATH SCHEDULE"...
A TRUE DISCONNECT FROM REALITY... SO THE MR. KNOW-IT-ALLS CAN NITPICK, FAULT-FIND, FINGERPOINT, AND FRONT LIKE THEY'RE THE "ANSWER GRAPE". 😅🤣😅
Mention the schedule and:
EVASIVE PATTERN DELTA 5!
FLAT OUT LIES!! If it was coming from a place of LOVE, you'd mention the Pistons had the HARDEST 20 GAME OPENING SCHEDULE IN NBA HISTORY. BAR NONE. BLAMING THE COACH IS COMING FROM A PLACE OF HATE, WHERE YOU AVOID TALKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE:
EVASIVE PATTERN DELTA 5.
@@J.Ragland-hz1erwild lmao
As a Suns fan, I tried to warn y'all Monty was an awful coach. He was just in the right place at the right time with the Suns. He frequently made horrible decisions. Killian is his new Shamet / Ish Wainwright
Feel this as a Pelicans fan. Monty is stuck in his old ways.
Wish we would've listened
Suns fans really did say this, there were dudes on Reddit celebrating Monty leaving, they knew how bad it would get, got ride of the cancer, and are still playing playoff ball without him
Doesn't help he didn't even want to coach anymore since his wife is sick but the pistons threw a fuck ton of money at him. He lacks passion
I warned fellow Piston fans similarly. His x's and o's left a lot to be desired, he had major red flags considering how fast his Phoenix squad imploded, and that he would likely botch player development. And now that's exactly what's happened.
I hope coach Casey wasn't pushed out by the front office/owner. He seemed to have the ideal approach for developing the young guys.
Monty was bailed out by having an on court coach in cp3 in Phoenix, not to mention booker being great and getting better. I saw in the playoffs in 2022 against the pels how monty was selling, and it showed against the mavs
I still don't get why he had so much beef with Ayton??
Kevin Ollie was the guy Troy Weaver wanted, and he fit the Pistons timeline perfectly. Tom Gores is a cokebrained nincompoop, and had to get Monty... Like you said, Monty doesn't even want to be here. Kevin however is a young hungry coach with great mentorship ability. Monty is overrated, having KD and CP3 doesn't mean you're a good coach, period.
This guy here summed it up perfectly. ☝️
Where was this comment six months ago when they were interviewing coaches? You wanted Monty over Kevin Ollie just like the rest of us at the time they hired him.
"Cokebrained nincompoop". I'm stealing this. I'm sorry but I'm going to use this phrase regularly in my life from now on
Kevin Ollie deserves a head coaching job in the league. Him and Willie Green are heavily respected in Philly...Monty Williams, not so much.
He got more credit than he deserves…he wasn’t good in the suns till the bubble 8-0 run, and next season he had CP3 to lead the team…
See how he screw up his relationship with Ayton should show how bad he is as a people person…
By the way if someone wants to argue the players are the one who suck, then pls don’t give him the credit when the team wins…if he takes the credit such as coach of the year, then he should take the blame too when the team lose
From a non pistons fan, The coach is clearly problem.. How do u allow ur team to lose 19 in a row with the talent that u have on this team?
I’m a bulls fan and we are currently going through our own mess but this is sad honestly for the pistons . Got a lot of talent but it’s just not working . What’s going on with Ivey, Cade and such . So sad to see talented guys get screwed like this
Detroit Pistons can be the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NBA. Detroit Pistons system in 2008 was defense in a couple of shooters. First Friday general manager of the Detroit Pistons and find somebody who understands Detroit basketball defense
The Pistons need a whole sweeping rebuild of the front office and basketball operations, including a different coach.
Monty is up there with Frank Ocean in terms of finessing the bag 😂
I think it is hilarious that Jaden Ivey came out and said I don’t want to go to the kings and the kings are a good team and the team he’s stuck on now is awful
Ivey wanted to play for Coach Casey
Why throw Coach Casey under the bus? Coach Casey had multiple 50 win seasons as a HC without having a Bonafide superstar.
Wasn’t my intention, I respect Casey a lot.
MONEY WILLIAMS!
He's coached twice and Chris Paul was the coach on the floor on both teams.
He only had one playoff appearance without CP3, CP3 carried this man
Monty didn't want to coach, but they just offered too much for him to say no. Regardless what happens Monty gets his money
Monty is going to ruin Ivey, and we're going to have to trade him for pennies on the dollar. A #5 pick who loved being a Piston, and who has consistently played well - and we can't develop him? I think Monty wants to get fired - terrible thing to say about a coach, but nothing else makes sense.
Fire content as always 🔥
good looks
The pistons have yet to get their Motor’s running **ba-dum-tss**
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I’m from Detroit and have had league pass the last 4 years. I was excited with the possibilities of Monty, especially when we started 2-1. But he’s a joke! Petty little man that can’t communicate, holds grudges over petty stuff. He’s a child that has to do everything his way no matter the failings. I think getting rid of him asap. Yes you pay out the ass but save the team from destroying all the young talent.
Yep.
I think they will loose more money if they keep Monty and he can't put together a winning season.
@@Lewis-jn8ry That's my guess too. Especaily if all our young talent just wants out and to restart their careers elsewhere. There will have to be a rebuild after this rebuild has been abandoned. It will take years.
Never was fond of the Monty Williams deal. Wondered why we didnt give Kevin Ollie a chance or grab Mark Jackson.😅
This is a W for diversity hire, shows that Pistons are very inclusive which is more important than winning games.
Why are we using the "diversity hire" argument when the spurs are on a nice little 15 game losing streak(with one of the greatest _white_ coaches)?
You make it seem like if it wasn't a black coach they'd be winning games, but spurs are probably just as much evidence that isn't absolute
That 8-0 run in the bubble really changed Monty’s career
Its basically the Doc effect when he won that boston championship
Your content never misses fire stuff bruv 🔥
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Rocket/piston fan for life here.. I can tell you Pistons fans are so mad at how Monty refuses to start Ivey.. they love Ivey and he WANTED to be a piston
I’m still in disbelief lol
@@getlikecoop Pistons need a rockets approach.. some solid vets who can lead and help develop the young guys. Bojan is a start but they need a championship vet I don’t think Monty is as good as advertised
Why and how are you s rockets and pistons fan? Moved??
@@dannydonvitoHe's not.
only dumb ones are. Right now, Killian is better than him. Let him earn his minutes, and get better as a defender. Jaden is great offensive talent, but the mistakes he makes defensively are inexcusable, so I understand the frustration that Monty is displaying with him. Killian Hayes is also getting better, and is so much better than Ivey as a defender, distributor, ball handler, and I'm on board with him starting over Ivey. Ivey just needs to play with focus and get better, and his minutes with come.
I been a Pistons fan since the Billups,Hamilton, Prince and the Wallace days but wow this team has been going down the drain since Dumars traded away Billups for Allen Iverson for me yes I witnessed the Andre Drummond and Blake Griffin era that was the last time the Pistons were "good" ☹️
Fire him . Fire this clown. Bring Mark Jackson
How do you fire somebody you owe 80 Million Dollars ?
I'm just happy Monty got paid. Idc if he only last 1 season, most coaches doesn't even max out their career earnings at $25 million, so Monty getting $20-25 million/season is a huge W for him! What alot of people are failing to understand is this, there is business, then there's BUSINESS business. Therefore, if a big company is gonna throw you $20 million to do the same thing you did, would YOU yourself say no? Answer truthfully.
Everyone on the pistons from the front office to the coach to the players are extremely sorry literally 💯🤦🏽
Pistons should've paid the trainers and scout team more in terms of bonuses for performance of the players rather than the coach, especially if your team was horrible for the past decade.
First thing I’d do is try to use Bogdan and Bagley/Wiseman to get back Saddiq Bey and Aj Griffin. A line up of Cade, Ausar, Griffins, Bey and Duren would be a good lineup to develop. You’d still have Ivey, Hayes and Stewart and Bagley/Wiseman
At this point it’s hard to define what salvaging this season means. They could probably develop their young core a bit more but there’s absolutely no expectation possible as they are already 18 games below 500 at this point
I have a feeling this is 2024 NBA draft won't be as bad as they think it is... Look at the 2020 draft studs throughout the first and even second..... It was labeled a one man draft in Edwards
THE 🐐 COOP‼️
FREE IVEY!
CP3 made Montey look like an amazing coach. Blame CP3. hahaha!
I'm so tired of people saying they are better than their record. No they are not, they have that record for a reason! Actually watch the games! Not only are they not very skilled, but the effort is zero. They don't care at all about winning, and why should they, they get paid regardless.
Monty showed up carrying a big cloud…instead of embracing the entire team showing up to give him love at the presser, he decided to drive an ice pick into the foundation of the team and bench and limit time on Ivey as we pile up loses…We had no issues drama wise, now we have this…Thanks guy.
CUT OUT THE "WE" CRAP! YOU WANNA BE STARTING SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY. YOU WOULD SOW SEEDS OF DISCORD. IVEY GETS FATIGUED, TOO. IF HE DOESN'T, HE WON'T LVL UP HIS STAMINA!
NOW WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SCHEDULE? WOULD YOU BE COOL WITH IT HAPPENING EVERY YEAR?
should've signed a rookie coach
We did our bum ass owner wanted this bum
Thanks
Honestly, Troy Weaver coming over from working with Sam Presti and the elite OKC front office, I expected him to be doing much better as a GM.
there was a point in this magic game tonight ivey would've scored 12 points straight but because of fouls those shots didn't count, if he would have played more than 18 minutes and got fed the ball specifically to score, we probably would've beat the magic, but we have to run every single possible play through cade or Killian Hayes. I love Detroit but just trade Ivey, I want him to shine somewhere he'll have a chance to.
They gave Mont’ money a lot of power and now he’s figuring out what he has, as they try to conclude the rebuild with this group and learn a very difficult new offense. I’m surprised no one is talking about how they are leaning the .5 and their biggest issue is turn overs. Once that’s under control they will at least have a respectable game while having figured out what they have in the whole team and who they need to trade, cut, develop and everything else. The current situation is historically hard to watch but hopefully it makes these young guys grow up into some bad going to work boys.
I knew Monty wasn't a good coach when I saw him "handle" the Ayton situation.
So Monty Williams is literally just the Jason Kidd for Detroit. He sees guys like Killian Hayes who are mid as hell to be able to start. Just like Jason Kidd sees guys like Dwight Powell as starters for some reason when they are trash.
I went to see them opening night when they beat the Bulls back in October...that was their last win 😢
I’ve always said he was not a good coach. I was pretty lonely on that island a couple years back 😂
Monty Williams's head coaching style has made sure, you will no longer be lonely.
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As a suns fan I truly feel bad for pistons fans.
As a Pels fan, same
@@getlikecoop oof, damn coop I’m sorry
It's not Monty fault
He the reason ayton not top 2 but he definitely top 3 center in the league
This might end up being a bigger flop than Darko. This is so embarrassing as a Pistons fan. This roster is also terrible, perhaps the worst team in Pistons history. Don’t think this gets any better until Gores sells the team and we get a new GM. The entire team might have to be blown up.
Just because Monty is an NBA coach doesn’t mean he is smarter than everyone person not coaching. He is not a good coach. The Suns didn’t run any plays other set a screen for Booker or KD to get the ball, then stand around and watch them go 1-on-1. Monty’s bench rotation was also nonsensical in Phoenix. We had 2 of the best back-up shooters in the league in Lee and Ross, yet Monty just benched them for no explicable reason late in the year and in the playoffs. We had a terrific backup center in Biyombo who could at least contest anyone at the rim, yet Monty would rather watch Zion score 30 in the paint on Ayton and Landale. Monty also would make stupid decisions out the wazzooo with his timeouts and challenges. And u could go on and on.
Point is, Monty is not a good coach. He has an “in” in the league. And because the Suns players were good he got over paid.
Pg- Cade
Sg- Ivey
Sf- Ausar
Pf- Bogdan(for spacing and shooting)
C- Duren
There is no way that team is not fighting for a play-in spot. I just don't understand what the coach likes about killin so much....he's not nearly as good as Ivey
who scores off the bench?
@@kwekueghana3683 GTFOH Burks, Livers both shoot almost 40% from 3. Bagley is a very good scorer too. That is 3 dudes that can get buckets right there. Hayes is a compliment scorer and will have his moments also. And Beef Stew will still shoot an efficient but super slow 3 when he has 20' of space to wind up and shoot it, or hustle buckets off pick and rolls, put backs, etc. Plenty of scoring and shooting on that bench, some defense too.
My exact thoughts and I am glad to see others feel the same way. To me, that lineup is the incredibly obvious correct lineup. I'm at a loss as to why this coach can't figure this out. Or why he is clearly a worse coach than the last coach, or why anyone says that he is a players coach, these young men look f'ing disconnected from him entirely and absolutely miserable, they ain't playing for him or with him, it's as if he is not even coaching them. That is how they act, they need answers and fixes to match their effort but he wants to talk about shat like shooting. Not that his defense is not moving in transition, or switching correctly, or stunting correctly, or helping correctly, or going under or over screens correctly...this is the worst basketball I have ever watched in the NBA. I watch every night, multiple games, for a decade. This is as bad as any of those teams. They might beat last year's Spurs? Maybe? They can't beat last year's Pistons team, despite adding talent and a new coach, go f'ing figure. I believe that too. In a simulation that somerhow resembled reality, last years Pistons would dominate this team. How isn't it coaching, then??? This is awful. I don't think they can't beat a single team right now. I mean, Memphis is awful, they easily beat up Detroit. Wizards are awful, they beat Detroit by 19 in Detroit. Blazers beat them by 9. Nuggets beat them in Detroit without Joker half the game, or Murray, or Gordon. Two starters, haha. They beat the lousy Hornets, but before Rozier was back or Bridges, I doubt they beat them now. And somehow OKC!? Weird, super weird. Can they beat the Spurs!? I don't think that they can. Do they win 10 games? I don't think so. This is historically bad.
Jaden Ivey balling like ja Morant right there and here it is. Coach ruined his career.
jaden ivey is the pistons 4th best guard.
@@hashslingingslasher2359putting cade, sasser and Hayes(?) In front of him??
@@jsports2665 yessir!
@@jsports2665 ivey prolly got the 2nd most potential but he is the 4th worst at this time
I been getting cooked for saying he’s overrated
I feel as if Monty is about to ruin these young players.
Tom Gore payed an average coach ( Monty Williams ) with a good roster in Phoenix as if he was Phil Jackson with a loaded roster. As if coaching one of the worst rosters in the league for the best decade would actually increase wins. Any competent owner knows that acquiring talent supersede coaching. Btw want dirt Troy Weaver has on Tom Gore to continue to keep his job..smh!
its his first season, give him some time. he signed a 6 year contract with Detroit. Its shows that Detroit front office knows that its will take 3-4 year minimum to rebuild this team.
Give him some time ? Dwayne Casey won more games purposely tanking for wemby without Cade, sasser and Ausar and you’re saying give him time ? Monty is a con artist he wants to get fired!!!
They are at least 3 years into the rebuild.
What truly beat the suns team during the finals was foster pretty f*** up ref you knew cp3 it was over
I disagree on the Wiseman take,, Wiseman might be the most skilled big on this team, he just doesn't know how to play.
$$$ BA-AD! HONESTY BAD, TOO?
COMING FROM A PLACE OF LOVE?
NO!
CALLING THE CONTRACT "RIDICULOUS" IS COMING FROM A PLACE OF... "RIDICULE"... NOT LOVE!🤥
COOOOOOP🔥
Monty might create a new list of one the worst contract to HC list..
He's being paid to coach, and he's just getting started. Give him a chance to figure out his situation and how to fix it before you count him out. He's proven himself already. Give him a chance to show what he's cooking up.
Have you watched the games 😂
I think that it's time for a coaching and system change for Detroit. They have talent but they need a coach to maximize that talent.
But they literally just hired Monty and gave him tons of money for what 6 years??? That's a lot to just swallow....
i mean hows the draft prospects lookin this year?
I didn't want him to come here in the first place bc he said he didn't wanna coach for the pistons in the first place
GETLIKECOOP talk about Zach Lavine demanding a trade out of Chicago.
What’s to talk about he hasn’t demanded anything. If reports are true they have agreed to part ways that’s not him demanding a trade
Lol we all know the Pistons are tanking again. They are going the OKC/Magic route which isn't that bad.
Pistons owner needs to sell the team and everyone should be fired .. Monty finessed Detroit .. I even called it when he had his press conference before the season.. he looked bored and uninterested
What's good coop
Yerrr what’s up Daryl
@@getlikecoop you coop you the 🐐
Why are you pocket watching the Black Man? You can't blame Monty for taking the money
You can blame him for being a bad coach tho
I’m black also, happy he got paid. Wish he was doing better though.
How could he be “a man of God” and kill an organization like this? Lol
We NEED a Zion video bc what the f is going on with him man???!!!
Yeah I gotchu on this one
Monty gotbusbfoe the bread. Weaver was right with teying to puwchbfoe a different coach. It was Tom Gores that chased Monty
9:21 harden type defense
Ivey and cade would easily give you at least 50 points combined a night.
i think you meant pistons havent made it out of the 1st round since 07-08. Billups was a nugget for 08-09 thus was not on that playoff squad.
why he making it hard. cade,ivey,thompson,duren,stewart. with hayes of the bench since he can play 1-3 he can find minutes. forget the wiseman and marvin bagley bust experiment send them both to the g-league and play 40 mins per game
As a pistons fan... I never wanted him here
Maybe you will all realize kerr is another monty
The pistons are a basketball team 😱😱??????? I thought they were just a bunch of guys playing with the same jerseys on 😅
08,09 pistons got swept to hell
Saddest part is this upcoming draft is terrible and hardly has any stars in it. Maybe one or two guys will become all stars but that’s a big maybe.
Take beef stew out of the starting lineup.
I watch the game and to me it seems like Cade and Ivey are not playing well together. I watch Ivey pass up an easy pass to Cade for a more difficult one to Burks. They should just start all 3 guards Bojan and Bags or Duren when he gets back.
I’m a Pistons fan and we ass
NO REASON they shouldn't be as good as when... BOGDANOVIC ACTUALLY DOES PLAY... WHEN HE IS OUT...
EINSTEIN THE DOOFUS STRIKES AGAIN. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?
Thats not true about Ivey not knowing. Ivey knew
You might as well say ben Wallace too?
Should be prioritizing development, not taking their minutes away trying to get meaningless wins (that they still aren’t getting anyway)
After tonight game..somebody need to get fire.!!..this is uncalled for….Looks like montey the dictator just lost his army..and the piston organization can’t do shit about it..haha..
I wish the bulls would fire billy and hire bucks old coach budinhoser(not spelked right at all)
Might as well signed me, I’ll lose all year just for a mill