Bodine v. Enterprise High School...in THIS system, welfare folks seem to be the wisest. Work for nothing, own nothing, and expect the worst from everyone. When the criminals are wearing badges and judicial robes, what's the point? Just curious; is there a reason you are wearing a pentagram with scales along the bottom (the symbol on your shirt)...are you a Satanist?
if hes passed any of the law school fiction then he knows that angels are cast in statues and codes meaning laws, statures, angels use codex spells to manifest, or to bind. his monitor is a magic square and his words will be double speak, raw ha ha, look how things change in back ground, old craft. anyway, occult means knowledge, these people think it means secret. pentagram reps five triangles of light that effect a squared reality. rgb w/b. octagon = carbon molecule, so a pentagram in magic square on his shirt means he wills rgb b/w to whatever is symbology equates, with no gem in eye, they merely robed mockers of God
My dad owned a liquor store that had a garage door in the back. People would break a hole in the door with a crowbar, crawl in and steal. He lined the inside of the door with chicken wire and connected it to an electric fence charger. A few people tried to break in after that, but they changed their minds. One of them left us a crowbar.
My music teacher was fed up with the kids in the neighborhood (me being one of them) soaping his windows, TeePeeing his trees, smashing his pumpkins and other mischief at Halloween. He was an avid boater, so he set up his cannon that is used to launch boat races in the shrubs outside his house. This is an 8 guage that just fires blanks, but is powerful loud. He sits in his porch with the lights off and waits. We show up and before we can get to the first pumpkin, he pulls the lanyard. I thought it was the end of the world. My friend actually faints from the massive adrenaline rush he got, I literally lose control of my bowels and shit myself. Needless to say, we never went back again.
I have a couple of "thunder mugs" or signal cannons, 1.75" bore. Same as a golf ball, but I just use them as blanks. 1/4 pound of The Righteous Black. Not as loud as genuine artillery, but close enough. As soon as the fuse lights, I crab backwards, then do a pratfall and hoopsnake (theatre) roll to get away from the thing. I love it! When we're up on New Years, all the firecrackers cease for a few minutes after the blast. We always wait until the gendarmes are on the other side of the bay, set off a few to bring them back, and go silent while the North side lights up again. Boys will be.
Not only that, but I think that if you break into someone's house, there's always a possibility that someone's there, and thus there's always a possibility that you're putting someone's life at risk. I think that fact means that you effectively forfeit your right to personal protection regardless of how you get hurt, or at least you should effectively forfeit that right as soon as you break in. At the same time, though, I think that what the guy did should not be legal. I think that they should both be punished and I don't think the guy who broke in should be compensated in any way.
@@anthonyantoine9232 I dont think the burglar should be able to recover damages. Its ok to leave the setting of trap a misdemeanor. BTW if the burglar didn't bring any weapons its not fair to assume there would have been deadly forced used. Yes, they could pick up a candlestick etc but that wasn't planned either. There are probably already different charges for that.
Speaking of traps, many years ago we converted a large van with two fuel tanks into a camper for hunting. We took one of the fuel tanks and used it for the sewage from the toilet. We went out in the woods to return to the van that we left parked off to the side of a back road. We seen a hose sticking out of one of the fuel fill caps and a large pool of vomit on the ground.....yes..the thieves choose the wrong tank. Now that was an unintentional booby trap.
I was getting my melons stolen from my field so I put up a sign that read "ONE OF THESE MELONS HAS BEEN POISONED WITH CYANIDE" I can back the next day and below the sign was written "NOW THEIR ARE TWO" That didn't go as planned...
Same idea as one of the few "war stories" my father would tell about WWII. When going for a second helping of food, his cup full of coffee would often get taken. So one day, Dad left a note saying "I spat in my coffee." The coffee was still there when he got back, but added to the note was "So did I."
In rural areas, where bears can be an issue, people will often make good size pieces of plywood with nails in them like that to keep bears from breaking windows and doors...It probably would be possible to do that inside a house as a deterent. They probably won't be seriously injured and if the house is not well maintained it is just as possible to step on something sharp that wasn't intentionally placed. Even without booby traps entering abandoned houses is dangerous...I know someone who ended up falling almost a story because the stairs were rotted and couldn't support a person anymore. Had sharp pointy objects been below the stairs they could have been impailed and died, had they fell wrong and hit their head thet could have died, had the owner of the place not showed up and helped/chewed them out of the basement they could have died (they didn't tell anyone where they went or have a cellphone back then). The more abandoned a building the more likely murphys law will punish an intruder.
@@tonybo312 true . still sad the perp can be on same ground as vic. they used to hang people that stole a mans horse ... now steal my car no big deal lol i know i will go back to my corner and behave
@@tonybo312 is it really justice that was served to all parties? Seems like the only thing that got served to honest people trying to protect what's lawfully theirs was a big F. U. If they wreck the place and don't have any way to reimburse then the property owners don't even get solace. This is another reminder that the law isn't there to protect the honest citizen, but to protect the interests of society.
@@victorunbea8451 Why is it so hard to understand that if you want to protect your property as you claim it is okay to set a deadly trap for people? Killing people is not a solution that fits the crime, and neither does our society allow you to declare yourself judge or jury or executioner. There are a LOT of other options besides setting deadly booby traps, you could offer the place for rent, you could let someone stay in it rent free if they discourage burglars, you can sell property that you do not need and cannot otherwise protect without resorting to killing people. You could hire a monitoring company, S.O.S. Alarms for example. You cry about how these damned burglars are BREAKING the law and deserve your shotgun blast if they trespass. Well if breaking any law is all that you require for handing out a death penalty without benefit of a trial, jury, judge, or conviction then that is what you deserve as well because by setting booby traps you are just as much a law breaker as the burglar, only worse because you are killing people where the burglar is just pissing you off with a property crime. Your position is completely immoral, you should sue your parents for raising you this way.
You have a jury problem. They've allowed a thief to profit by his actions. The owner is already being punished by having to pay serious legal fees. No way should a jury reward a thief for trespass, breaking and entering, and theft.
Yes you can under Article 129-38.602B of the Mississippi State Statute so long as she is called Tiffany, is a Registered and Practicing Hairdresser (see ruling MIS 298.2367-A) and You are also paying All the Attourney and Court fees, no matter how the case ends up.
So I'm completely on board with the boobie traps being banned (due to risk of hurting innocents, EMT workers, firefighters, etc.) The MAJOR problem I have is with the burglers or criminals being awarded money. Should the person who made the boobie trap be punished? Perhaps, but under no circumstances should any money be awarded to the criminal. There should never be any case where a burgler can ever successfully sue the victim of their crime and be awarded money for it ever, regardless of what the home owner did. The home owner should be punished separately if a crime was committed, but not in such a way that rewards the criminal.
While I don't agree with the burglar getting anything, i fully agree that the potential to harm an unintended victim is far too great. No lethal traps.
@John Patriot eagle freedom boner if they were injured in any way by your nonlethal trap... let's say they get pepper balled, panic, try to get out half blind and fall and break their arm. Are they still suing you, the homeowner, for setting said trap?
Criminals should never profit from their crimes. Citizens should never be punished for defending their families or property, no matter what they do to the criminal.
@@NikoBellaKhouf I do agree there. I don't think anyone should be punished ever for defending themselves. The only reason I'm really opposed to the booby trap thing is the great risk it has to innocent people (like first responders) As first responders shouldn't have to be in constant fear of booby traps anytime they're called to a house.. But yes, I don't believe anyone should be punished for anything done to the burglar in defense of their own home.
@@OneWheelMan Yeah from what I've heard from old timers is that those booby traps tended to get someone innocent, like a family member, more often than it caught criminals. It's just really frustrating when you get burglarized and lose everything and you can't do anything about it.
To the wealthy elites who pass these laws, property and possessions may not seem important but to the poor, someone breaking in and stealing what little you have doesn't seem so trivial. If the judicial system would stop handing out slaps on the wrists for people breaking in and stealing their victims wouldn't be driven to taking matters into their own hands
I wouldn't booby trap my house, but this is not addressing the problem. The problem is the government being unwilling or unable to actually catch criminals. The percentage of crimes that are completely unaddressed by police in cities is a serious problem. Ultimately, unsolved crimes represent injustice. If the system can't provide justice, ultimately, people will take the law into their own hands, in a variety of ways. Expecting anything else is insane. Solving crimes regularly, providing actual justice solves a tremendous amount of vigilantism.
@Motersickle Bum I don't think the Federal government has that much influence on law enforcement - the laws they're enforcing aren't burglary, larceny, etc. Local government is responsible for the vast bulk of law enforcement activity.
I am a believer in intervention. Children that abuse animals can and often will carry out violent acts on children & later, possibly on adults. Of course their victims are helpless. If a puppy is chewing on something it not ought to, you remove that object & distract with something else. Give them something else to focus on. And I do believe we are, our brothers' keeper.
When I lived in Wyoming I put up a sign that said " Despite local laws this house is heavily booby-trapped"....one day when the police showed up I gave them the grand tour.....there were no booby-traps....and they agreed....it is not against the law to put up a sign that lies saying your house is booby-trapped....hahahahaha
It's like putting up 'Beware of the dog' signs, but if you have these signs, someone breaks in and the dog attacks them, you're the one that's in trouble because you've basically admitted that the dog is dangerous. (IKR) They're a good deterrent, though. I haven't even got a dog but I have 2 of these signs.
@@abegarfield543 I agree with your comment 100 percent and is exactly why I don't have any such signs on my property. Instead, I have 2 actual dogs. No doubt you would take down your signs if you were to get a dog. To be clear, companionship and even love are the main reasons I have them with me, but the 'security feature' built into most dogs is awesome.
Reminds me of the "Never mind the dog, beware of the owner" or other pro gun/2nd amendment signs. Even if you don't own a single firearm, it may get some tweaker to think twice before entering your property.
Yes, perfectly legal, you have freedom of speech and that includes the ability to lie. And hey if it works go for it. Just don't set any real traps because that is both illegal and immoral.
The problem is when your home is broke into the officers will not even try to take finger print etc to catch the bad guys. All they do is give me a list of stolen items and I will give you report for your insurance. Crime pays now days.
Unless a firefighter or police or medics or member of the public breaks in to rescue a child from a burning building. That suddenly looks like no one would do it if they might be blown away.
Steve, my friend and I live in Georgia, he used to date this girl that lives Maryland, Maryland has red flag laws and Georgia does not, she got a restraing order against him in Maryland, by the time he was notified of a hearing when he could defend his self, that date had already passed, but that's not my question, the sherrifs Dept in our county in Georgia came to his house and served him and took his guns, even though ha has no red flag law, how can Maryland impose there law on another state? Thank you have a great day
Nothing says that you can't rig a paint spraying device that sprays the intruder with dayglow pink spray paint that does not wash off easily and glows bright purple under UV /blacklight that shows beyond a reasonable doubt that they were there, along with multiple motion activated trail cameras.
There was a case in France around 1970 where a man owned a vacation cottage that was repeatedly burglarized. He put a bomb in a large portable radio, and put it on a high shelf. He put up warning signs at the front gate, front door, many places. On the radio, he put a note, "Warning! If you turn this radio on, it will explode!". Two burglars visited the place. We all know what happened next. The survivor, who was severely injured, sued. The jury awarded him something like one Franc.
In the case law which you reviewed I didn't hear any consideration for assumed liability. Does not the person assume liability for torts or damages when they intentionally break into a home or business?
Agreed . Although we do not have guns in the uk . The law should ot be defending the criminals when ppl are only protecting themselves or their property
A few years back, we purchased 5 acres. A young man discovered that he could come into circle a huge old tree and head back out...tearing up the drive and grass with his dirt bike. We (mother & young teen boy) were not comfortable about confronting the older teen bully about not coming onto our property. Decided to see if he could be detoured. With a 2 x 4 and some nails, we laid it out in the grass area & covered with leaves with pointed nails up. The next afternoon, said bully was seen pushing his bike home and never returned.
god for bid any thing had happned to that kid you would have been liable for any and all injuries that he suffered because you placed that spiked board there
@@alfredgosner2112 "god for bid any thing had happened to that kid you would have been liable" Well God did for bid and all was right with the universe. I love a simple plan that works out perfectly.
I lived on a corner lot, and we had a punk kid from down the street used to take a "shortcut" across my lawn. This happened three times..and the cops said that there was nothing they could do. So. I put two heavy metal rakes in the yard, and waited. Sure enough...this moron blasts across the lawn, and the metal rake got caught, and RIPPED out everything from the engine on back, including the rear axle. Destroyed the car. They tried to sue. Umm...nope. Not against the law to leave a rake in the yard...
so how about the store owner in miami fl, booby trapped a vent opening with electricity... killed the burglar... he was arrested. the whole community surrounded the police station demanding they let him go and reward him with a medal for catching this thief that had broken into dozens of stores..... i think this was back in the 1980s or 1990s... ? the district attorney let the store owner go with no charges...
Well because he was not killed the home owner got sued. If he was killed the being sued part wouldn't have happened. Though he might have been charged for murder if reported.
@@yumri4 What if a burglar left without setting off the spring and three curious eight-years-olds wandered in through the open front door and sprang it?
Me and a friend, broke into a shack, in an old abandoned loggers camp, when I was a kid. A rifle with a string was connected to the door. Don't think the old rusty gun was even loaded, or capable of firing. But it sure made us think twice, about ever doing that again!
Favorite part of the trial was the defendant being asked if he would do anything different after being sued by the burglar “I’d have aimed that trap a few feet higher.”
So someone right to live. No matter what choices thay make in life. Is the same as a law abiding citizens. Far as im concerned thay made the choice to go where thay should not. By law. Thay deserve anything thay get. Their own decision. Is there own down fall. Not saying set up a gun or trap. Just saying there is no way the criminal should be able to sue a homeowner.
if someone breaks into your house to steal stuff but isn’t threatening you directly but you shoot them to protect your property. They survive. They can sue you. You’ll both go to jail but you would receive a heavier sentence. So always shoot to kill an intruder. A dead man can’t sue you.
I live in a place that is full of naredowells. If you leave your home for a few days. You can expect to be robbed. I don't share. I don't invite guests in my home. I had neighbors inventing reasons to be in my house. I got attracted out of my house. Then beaten to a pulp. ( Mugged) I crawled to my car. Then spent 4 days in hospital. On my return home. I found Jimmy marks on my door. Was this a warrantless search? I think my property has been searched and my wealth has been assessed and im just the custodian for my things strangest thing. The sheriff/ da/judge did not care. (Wish not to persue sorry om) I got a CCW and a pistol. Now every body cares. By the by I have die packs set to paint the next perp. The die packs have a hard to miss sent. ( Skunk/perfume) I'll call a state trooper next round. Take care sgt williams retired
Yup, living in a place like that you ALWAYS have to have somebody home. Always. And that person at home needs a .44 Magnum minimum. I got no issues blowing human garbage away to kingdom come, because in my eyes, they just aren't people. In other words, they are practically begging for it. It's a shame I have to warm other people about the old crying baby/kitty routine to lure them out of their houses. Some people even send their own children to a target's door to get them to get their guard down. These days, if I don't know you, or don't recognize your voice, or it's 3 in the morning, I'm not opening the door. If the other person on the other side gets enraged and pushy the more I tell them I don't know them, or offer to call the police to help them, you better believe the other person on the other end has no good intent. People be scary, man. I travel, and lived in an apartment temporarily once where there was this one lady trying to get to people by trying to get them to open a can of beans for her. Going door to door, asking for people to open cans and bottles for her....for some reason. My can opener was actually busted, so I told her I couldn't help her and I was sorry, and closed the door. She. Went. Ape. Shit. She miraculously no longer needed her green beans open, but she did have enough energy to scream, go "really?" and bang on my walls, calling me an a-hole. I just recorded the whole thing. You never know. Also with these people, they are so unhinged, they will see you not falling for their uber transparent tricks as a "snub", and you'll be on their little one-sided vengeance list forever. These people go around, telling people as screwed up as they are about the lil' bitch/bastard down the way who "refused" them. You may have only said hi, or bye, or only three words to them, but they will add on so much b.s. to the story, they got a little equally braindead army to act on their own petty behalf. All because you wouldn't give them what they wanted, or refused to give them an opportunity to scam or steal from you, or use you in some way. I swear THIS is what happens when we get rid of asylums. We're left to deal with the sicko freaks who clearly need meds, a padded room, or are on drugs.
@@ARedMagicMarker up comeing visit to vacate at home is comeing to my town. Some wonder why I keep a propane tank chained to my entry way of my hobble? I'll shoot it and Whipe out the needle Bearing jerk and frends......I took a oath to protect my country against terrest threats domestic and foreign. .......my mother kept a pot of boiling hot water near the door. And boiling WATER WILL GO THRUGH A VEST IN A NEW York MINUTE. 1,2,AND 3 DEGREE. Burns Will give pause to think. .....
Thieves are not annoying they are not frightening they can inflict just as much harm as someone with a gun. My house was broken into 2 times at the cost of $40,000. As far as I’m concerned that is enough to physically do harm to a family. I bet the guy who got shot never broke into a house again. If it happened more the stealing would stop, either from fear of a boobie trap or simply by the thieves no longer are around to steal. One of the thieves in my instance was caught he spent 1 whole year in jail. When he was released he was arrested for doing that same thing to someone else. There is no justice in that. And so everyone knows guns, gold and money aren’t covered by insurance unless you have a specific policy for those things. Thieves are a drain on society no matter if they are in jail or on the streets. They cause injury as well. Even if you aren’t home.
I took some laws courses about 20 years ago, and we talked about this case. I understand the reasoning about personal safety, but I still totally disagree. If you don't belong in a house, don't go in. Maybe the home owner makes booby traps as a hobby. Makes no diff. You don't want to get hurt, don't break into peoples' homes. Further, a burglar who likes my house probably likes other houses, too, so I'm doing the community a favor by thoroughly injuring or killing a burglar. Also, what if I'm home next time? Why should I have to confront the burglar face to face? Why should I have to take that risk? I wonder how many people who agree with the law's finding have ever been burglarized.
One reason home invasions are lower in the USA. Criminals think twice because they think they may get hurt or shot. If im out of town i put up 3ft tire spoons they'll get hit in the face with if they approach my tools. Neighbor also would know if someone goes into my garage because it'll be loud and he can deal with the perp. Also having good neighbors to relie on is a big help. If i see someone entering my neighbors property. Ill be sneaking in behind and they'll regret entering someones home.
I think it has more to do with the punishment being proportional. If you notice, all your arguments also work just as well for giving the death penalty for burglary. Would you also advocate for penalties of death for burglars on the grounds that "you don't want to get hurt, don't break into peoples' homes"? That really the community is better off having the burger dead? Similarly would you also extend the death penalty to every crime because the community is better off without criminals? Or perhaps one ought to have the right to shoot a reckless driver driving nearby? After all reckless driving is often also a habit, and society is better without reckless drivers. I'm not saying you believe any of this; I personally think it's absurd and assume you don't. My problem if we go by what little you said, any punishment at all seems justifiable to any crime. Where do you draw the upper limit on punishment?
@@brettcatterall7761 And if I see you doing that, should I also sneak behind and make you regret entering someone's home? I would but I'm worried a 4th person will then sneak behind me.
@@randomnobody660 hey if you want to sneak in behind me going to my neighbors which i do daily. Just hope you're better trained than me. Otherwise you'll be survived by your family. Say what a good boy Daniel was
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS AGAINST THE LAW DOES NOT MEAN YOU CANNOT DO IT. BREAKING AND ENTERING IS AGAINST THE LAW BUT THEY STILL DO IT.
"Sure, I believe you, but my Tommy Gun don't. Tell you what, Snakes. I'm gonna give you to the count of ten to get your low down, no good keister off my property. One....Two...TEN! RATATATATATATATAT! Keep the change, ya filthy animal."
How about if the owner of the home puts up a sign that says “Free stuff.” Then after the house is empty and vandalized, the city or county condemns the property, then Meth manufacturers move in and burn the house down with their makeshift lab. This actually happened to a house down the road from me. Minus the free stuff sign. But, they might as well have put up a free stuff sign if there’s nothing that can be done to stop thieves from taking from the home.
I'm a firefighter. I often force my way into people's houses for the purpose of search/rescue of trapped or unconscious occupants, and to access the interior to extinguish the fire. Generally, people are happy that I break down their door and/or windows. Please don't kill me while I'm trying to help you.
I used to work in natural gas distribution. People hit the gas lines all the time. If it’s a big enough break we may do a forced evacuation of the area. We have the police knock on doors and if no one answers we have them kick in the door and search the house.
Rock R I can’t say for sure, but I believe the utility company did. I do know the utility billed the person/contractor for damages, so in turn likely added the doors into the bill.
Good for you. I don't leave any device on. No mater how cold it gets.( My house in Texas burnt down). I don't use dangerous weapons. To defend My home. other than die/ sent packs. (Red/skunk) I do have fire suppressing devices. That will not. Strike some one. Just scare the hell out of door busters.
No. You got balls enough to run into a burning building, you can deal with a few ounces of lead. You step on my property without my permission, your life is forfeit. No exceptions.
@WV JJ Do you have any idea how many laws that kid broke? He was a complete psycho. And there is no way anyone would survive those traps. Those burglars would be dead for sure and little Kevin would be going to prison.
Had the same thought, but really, since Kevin was present and (somewhat) in control of the traps he would have been defending himself and probably would have been exonerated.
I can't listen to this without getting pissed. You have the right to protect your property, and nobody said the homeowner is the "judge jury and executioner." The right to keep your stuff from being stolen outweighs the right of some criminal asshole to steal your hard earned precious posessions.
( RAT TRAP ) Interesting enough I myself when I was younger building a motorcycle parts in the backyard secured I thought someone at night came in and stole parts that being said outside gate was the problem went to the store purchased a rat trap added nails around the snapper screwed it to the gate added one more plank to the gate it’s ready someone tries to reach around open the gate surprise snap on their fingers it happened found blood all over the trap I went out to everyone I knew looking for taped fingers and knuckle them up, no luck didn’t find anyone.🕶 But it worked great.
This sadly reminds me of what my father and my grandfather taught me. Don't injure a home intruder you kill them. Your word vs theirs and they are dead. Otherwise the courts pull shit like this.
I think alot of people are missing the point ( maybe didnt watch whole video ) of why you cant bobey trap an unoccupied house with a deadly device . It really does come down to exactly what he pointed out . If the house is bobey trapped and a fire breaks out and the firemen enter the house to protect your belongings you have put them at risk . Now if someone is attacked by your dog upon breaking in or slips and injures themselves or impales them selves ( with a knife for instance ) somehow then those are not the owners fault but the criminals fault and laws should be written to reflect that . Now if the dog attacks the firemen, persay , are actually the laws that criminals seem to be taking advantage of . That's the problem with laws now . Some lawyers are just a slimy as any other criminal and they intentionally take advantage of a law that has obvious intent and intentionally misconstrue the intent of the law to a jury . Same with the right to live argument. If you got stranded in the middle of nowhere and entered an empty house or unoccupied house as a means to save life and limb that is not burglary and though it is break in and entering it's not actual CRIMINAL BREAK IN AND ENTERING. Laws are written to protect people but laws also have what is called INTENT and that is a part of law that police , lawyers , prosecutors and judges all have seem to have forgotten . Intent is very relevant to every law and intent , which is explained in good samaritan protections for example , are how laws are supposed to be used and applied .
I stumbled upon a cabin ( shack) deep in the East Texas big thicket forest. It had signs on 2 sides: NO TRESPASSING. CABIN IS BOOBYTRAPPED I did not test it. I kept going..
How is this different than having a fence around your yard with the sharp tips pointing up? Thief impales himself while climbing over it with your tv when you’re not home. Maybe traps are ok as long as there’s no gun powder. Maybe if I need money I should climb over a fence with razor wire at the top and sue the owner for a bunch of money.
The problem is that it's concealed. It's to protect innocents and public servants. The fire guy can see the fence and avoid it. Can't see the shotgun behind the door, unless hes Superman in which case that wouldn't matter unless it was loaded with kryptonite slugs.
@@JeremyBercow wouldnt need to secretly despose of the bodies if the kill was legal. just tell the cops to come pick it up and do some paperwork. It not being legal encourages hiding bodies.
You can barely defend yourself from a thief in Canada, let alone an unoccupied dwelling 😂. A few years ago a guy in Ontario fired warning shots at a group throwing molotov cocktails at his house, and he was charged, with his guns taken. It took him 2.5 years and 60k to fight the unsafe storage charges (when the weapons were stored properly) 😂 Guy had his entire gun collection impounded, because the cops on scene charged him with careless use of a firearm. The legal system is screwy 😂
Explosive device.....sounds like a crossbow would be ok. You shouldnt kill to protect things....could be reversed and said are you willing to die to steal things. Only one person makes the choice....the thief.
You're asleep, unconscious, so before you went to sleep you set a spring gun. The house catches fire. The firemen break in to rescue anyone who might be in the house. The spring gun shoots and mangles a fireman.
I cut a small hole in my bedroom closet wall that leads to my hallway (covered up by a picture frame) and have a fire extinguisher hooked up to it. My bedroom doors made of steel, if anyone broke in my house while I was asleep, I would wake up, spray the extinguisher instantly fogging the hallway, they'd probably get startled, assume it's pepper spray or mustard gas & hopefully flee. If not i also have a gun.
Vicious dogs are why I will never take a job delivering packages, cleaning pools, installing cable, plumbing, electrical, or installing home theater systems.
This is my issue with it. In fact I assumed this is why it's illegal.Especially an unoccupied dwelling. Kids go in there partying, light a candle, catch house on fire- fireman gets shot. Or what if neighbors report the break-in & the cops show up? Gas leak. All kinds of stuff. What if the property owner dies & someone has to go in there? I totally sympathise with not wanting your home broken into, and the idea of a burglar winning a suit like this really p&&&es me off, but yeah, I do understand why you can't booby trap your property..
@@charlidog2 I'm not entirely sure he meant the dog itself. If a vicious dog is a distraction the fire fighter has to deal with, when they often literally have no time to spare, none, it could cost them their life, or someone else's life.
@@PhilAndersonOutside Sure. On the issue. if your home is marked, booby trap it. Don't like it, stay off the property. Now, only the home. And you can only kill people who attack your home. That is a sacred place, and should not be considered an option to attack by anyone.
Well..... What if.... Intruder breaks into a house with an alarm system, becomes startled after alarm goes off and dies of a heart attack! Do we still blame the home owner? The intentions were there to ward off intruder/defend property and the same outcome came about with death from intruder. We're second class citizens
My mother got sued by a robber that tried to rob her while she was getting out of her car at home because the family dog jumped out the window and tore him up. He had to get 172 stitches and the dog broke his arm. The judge threw the case out.
Thank God for the dog. It's amazing how in this day and age the only people who have your back 100% no matter what, aren't even people. Now the robber has a 127 stitches worth of scars, a no win lawsuit, and hopefully jail time as a souvenir.
@@aaronlewis2150 Yes he ended up getting 16 years because he had a long Rap sheet of strong arm and armed Robberies in the past!! He also had to pay restitution for the Window the dog broke while going to save my mother.
There is an instance in Missouri where two crackheads broke into an old person's house and was stealing their pills the elderly person walked in on them and they proceeded to beat him to death I think trapping your house would be just fine because anyone with the intent on entering someone else's home. Is not doing it with good intentions by any means
@@Cacowninja that maybe true but if they want to say a life is a life they can't pick and choose. They would rather kill an innocent then a guilty party that cares nothing for others it might be different subjects but they have enough of a similarity to be thought provoking.
"Mr. Reede. Several years ago, a friend had a burglar on her roof. He fell through the skylight, landed on a butcher's knife, cutting his leg. The burglar sued my friend. He sued my friend! Because of guys like you, he won! My friend had to pay the burglar $6000. ls that justice?" "No. l'd have got him ten."
@@spleantrampoline There is a saying, who can tell the best story wins. There are many biases, and quite often they are in place to support the system over the people.
Why shouldn't you be judge, jury, and executioner of your own property? I don't agree with protections for anyone breaking into, stealing, or whatever other crime they might be doing on private property; and a criminal should have NO right to sue anyone when "they" were in the act of a crime. It's absurd. If criminals weren’t protected in their crimes, we’d have a lot less crime.
Two wrongs to NOT make a right. You can't self defence someone when you're not there to be defended. At that point you're the aggressor not the victim. Property can be replaced, if you don't have enough care or responsibility to be there to ensure it's safe or hire someone to do those jobs, sell it. What you're essentially proposing is negligence is permissible, that would be an extremely horrid and bad idea for numerous scenario's I won't even get into out of respect for Steve because they would be EXTREMELY dark. Want to try "Why laws are made the way they are for 200$?"
For $40 you can buy a tripwire that sets off a 12 gauge blank. These devices are 50 state legal and defined by the ATF as "noisemakers". I have one on my back gate.
Remington once sold an electric cartridge primer for its rifle ammunition. These are expensive collectors items now. The advantage was very rapidly firing and low trigger pressure, a motion detector could set off this device.
quite simple if he hadn't been there illegally he would not have been shot … ergo … it's his own decisions that put him in that situation … therefore it is his fault not the owners … hint to owner … next time shoot to kill not wound
There should be no legal problem with setting traps for criminals, as long as the trap only catches criminals. All of the maybes, possibilities, and other nonsense coming from bleeding hearts should be discarded. The entire concept that a firefighter or police officer may get injured or killed is nonsense unless it actually happens. The only thing that matters is that the court is considering a criminal that was injured or killed. Booby traps are not punishment, nor are other deadly confrontations with criminals that result in the injury or death to the criminal. The property owner is preventing a criminal, and if the criminals and the bleeding heart criminal lovers dislike this concept, then don't commit crime. Punishment is what happens after the criminal is caught, arrested, tried, and convicted and sentenced by a full court jury. Criminals definitely don't deserve such protection. The entire concept of allowing criminals to sue victims should be abolished as well. If we can force our legislators to adopt such changes to our legal system, we can reduce the crime rate drastically.
I've heard of construction guys putting nails in boards upside down so when someone goes in in the dark they get a few long nails in their feet. A criminal is never wearing work boots. Never heard of of anyone getting sued for locking away work hazards. Construction sites have boards with nails in them go figure.
Just set the house up like you're doing some remodeling and when they come in the door 200 pounds of bricks comes down on their head. Sorry didn't intend to hurt them.
In the seventies a lot of people had CB radios in their cars. One guy had his stolen five times before he welded a bunch of fish hooks to his. The next morning the criminal was laying there waiting apparently he could not let go.... I heard he had to pay the guy
I had a co worker that has his car stereo stollen a few times. He then taped double edge razor blades to the radio. One day he opened his car to blood everywhere. But the radio never got stolen again....lol
That sucks. Someone can bust their ass to earn money to pay for something they really want, and that thing is worth a lot to that person and a criminals life is worth more? Not to me it’s not. Why would a government put a value on a criminals life? If a criminal dies while committing a crime hell at least the tax payers don’t have to support him through out a prison term. I’d call it a win win.
I lockup room is common in my area. Just make a spare bedroom or any empty space and harden it so no one can get out once they get it. The best space that I like is in a basement. The crooks can go down the stairs but once they enter the room below the stairs, the door swing shut and locked on the outside. The only things in the room are a portable toilet. A small 40 white bulb is at the top of the roof /ceilingA small window the top of the roof that is barred up tight A water jug. Some hard tack biscuits. A hidden camera with sound. An old mattress. And an old wool blanket. When someone enters the room alarm will go off to the owner and the fun begins. You obviously can’t keep them as a prisoner but it does take time to call the police. Stuck in a cold basement with smelly old mattress to sleep on will punish anyone that just drops by.
To me. It doesn't matter. If your going to be a thief SUFFER the consequences, PERIOD. Whether you or home or not, break in and you will get what you deserve,,,,, your a damm thief. DO NOT BECOME A THIEF. And people want have to go to crazy lengths to protect their property.
Bodine v. Enterprise High School...in THIS system, welfare folks seem to be the wisest. Work for nothing, own nothing, and expect the worst from everyone. When the criminals are wearing badges and judicial robes, what's the point? Just curious; is there a reason you are wearing a pentagram with scales along the bottom (the symbol on your shirt)...are you a Satanist?
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if hes passed any of the law school fiction then he knows that angels are cast in statues and codes meaning laws, statures, angels use codex spells to manifest, or to bind. his monitor is a magic square and his words will be double speak, raw ha ha, look how things change in back ground, old craft. anyway, occult means knowledge, these people think it means secret. pentagram reps five triangles of light that effect a squared reality. rgb w/b. octagon = carbon molecule, so a pentagram in magic square on his shirt means he wills rgb b/w to whatever is symbology equates, with no gem in eye, they merely robed mockers of God
@@luciferfluerdelis4974 Don't listen to this person! He is speaking too much truth!
@@jackbquick123 do you worship Satan? Just curious
My dad owned a liquor store that had a garage door in the back. People would break a hole in the door with a crowbar, crawl in and steal. He lined the inside of the door with chicken wire and connected it to an electric fence charger. A few people tried to break in after that, but they changed their minds. One of them left us a crowbar.
I like a successful story
I've heard about that!
A horse calibrated charger would have been best. They hit like a spark plug wire.
@@brownwrench A weed killer. When weeds grow into the wire, it burns them.
@@charlidog2 ??
My music teacher was fed up with the kids in the neighborhood (me being one of them) soaping his windows, TeePeeing his trees, smashing his pumpkins and other mischief at Halloween. He was an avid boater, so he set up his cannon that is used to launch boat races in the shrubs outside his house. This is an 8 guage that just fires blanks, but is powerful loud. He sits in his porch with the lights off and waits. We show up and before we can get to the first pumpkin, he pulls the lanyard. I thought it was the end of the world. My friend actually faints from the massive adrenaline rush he got, I literally lose control of my bowels and shit myself. Needless to say, we never went back again.
How many years did they fiyuttvhg
lol
I have to ask, are you shitting me? LOL
I have a couple of "thunder mugs" or signal cannons, 1.75" bore. Same as a golf ball, but I just use them as blanks. 1/4 pound of The Righteous Black. Not as loud as genuine artillery, but close enough. As soon as the fuse lights, I crab backwards, then do a pratfall and hoopsnake (theatre) roll to get away from the thing. I love it! When we're up on New Years, all the firecrackers cease for a few minutes after the blast. We always wait until the gendarmes are on the other side of the bay, set off a few to bring them back, and go silent while the North side lights up again. Boys will be.
You may still be able to sue for PTSD?
The fact that burglars can even sue a property owner is yet more proof that our legal system needs a major overhaul.
Steve, I heard your argument and I do agree with you. But there is still apart of me that says that’s what he gets for stealing.
Not only that, but I think that if you break into someone's house, there's always a possibility that someone's there, and thus there's always a possibility that you're putting someone's life at risk. I think that fact means that you effectively forfeit your right to personal protection regardless of how you get hurt, or at least you should effectively forfeit that right as soon as you break in. At the same time, though, I think that what the guy did should not be legal. I think that they should both be punished and I don't think the guy who broke in should be compensated in any way.
@Leon thecat yes but you can still kill people that break in your house
Exactly, best yet make sure they don’t make it out alive to sue you in these circus courts
@@SFbayArea94121 -- Dad always said to follow the "3-S" rule. Shoot. Shovel. Shut up.
@@anthonyantoine9232 I dont think the burglar should be able to recover damages. Its ok to leave the setting of trap a misdemeanor. BTW if the burglar didn't bring any weapons its not fair to assume there would have been deadly forced used. Yes, they could pick up a candlestick etc but that wasn't planned either. There are probably already different charges for that.
It is hard to have sympathy for a burglar. It seems like death or injury would be normal occupational hazards for a burglar.
Yea, break into a judges empty vacation home and see what happens
The law sucks. You should be allowed to do whatever you feel necessary to defend or protect your property.
You suck if you think your stuff is worth killing someone for. Like a fire fighter trying to protect it for you. Damn, what a narcissist!
@@shaggybreeks What if you were at home. Anyone breaking in could have killed you. I don't care if the burglar gets shot. He deserves it.
Speaking of traps, many years ago we converted a large van with two fuel tanks into a camper for hunting. We took one of the fuel tanks and used it for the sewage from the toilet. We went out in the woods to return to the van that we left parked off to the side of a back road. We seen a hose sticking out of one of the fuel fill caps and a large pool of vomit on the ground.....yes..the thieves choose the wrong tank. Now that was an unintentional booby trap.
I was getting my melons stolen from my field so I put up a sign that read "ONE OF THESE MELONS HAS BEEN POISONED WITH CYANIDE" I can back the next day and below the sign was written "NOW THEIR ARE TWO" That didn't go as planned...
lol. That's funny.
Same idea as one of the few "war stories" my father would tell about WWII. When going for a second helping of food, his cup full of coffee would often get taken. So one day, Dad left a note saying "I spat in my coffee." The coffee was still there when he got back, but added to the note was "So did I."
In rural areas, where bears can be an issue, people will often make good size pieces of plywood with nails in them like that to keep bears from breaking windows and doors...It probably would be possible to do that inside a house as a deterent. They probably won't be seriously injured and if the house is not well maintained it is just as possible to step on something sharp that wasn't intentionally placed.
Even without booby traps entering abandoned houses is dangerous...I know someone who ended up falling almost a story because the stairs were rotted and couldn't support a person anymore. Had sharp pointy objects been below the stairs they could have been impailed and died, had they fell wrong and hit their head thet could have died, had the owner of the place not showed up and helped/chewed them out of the basement they could have died (they didn't tell anyone where they went or have a cellphone back then). The more abandoned a building the more likely murphys law will punish an intruder.
That is one kid that gets sarcasim.
I'm more irritated with a jury that would award a dime to a burglar.
sad deal ain't it . they used to hang people that stole others stuff . Sad country we live in
@@dougstitt1652 The law is the law and justice was served to all parties.
@@tonybo312 true . still sad the perp can be on same ground as vic. they used to hang people that stole a mans horse ... now steal my car no big deal lol i know i will go back to my corner and behave
@@tonybo312 is it really justice that was served to all parties? Seems like the only thing that got served to honest people trying to protect what's lawfully theirs was a big F. U.
If they wreck the place and don't have any way to reimburse then the property owners don't even get solace.
This is another reminder that the law isn't there to protect the honest citizen, but to protect the interests of society.
@@victorunbea8451 Why is it so hard to understand that if you want to protect your property as you claim it is okay to set a deadly trap for people? Killing people is not a solution that fits the crime, and neither does our society allow you to declare yourself judge or jury or executioner. There are a LOT of other options besides setting deadly booby traps, you could offer the place for rent, you could let someone stay in it rent free if they discourage burglars, you can sell property that you do not need and cannot otherwise protect without resorting to killing people. You could hire a monitoring company, S.O.S. Alarms for example. You cry about how these damned burglars are BREAKING the law and deserve your shotgun blast if they trespass. Well if breaking any law is all that you require for handing out a death penalty without benefit of a trial, jury, judge, or conviction then that is what you deserve as well because by setting booby traps you are just as much a law breaker as the burglar, only worse because you are killing people where the burglar is just pissing you off with a property crime. Your position is completely immoral, you should sue your parents for raising you this way.
You have a jury problem. They've allowed a thief to profit by his actions. The owner is already being punished by having to pay serious legal fees. No way should a jury reward a thief for trespass, breaking and entering, and theft.
How smart are people who couldnt get out of jury duty
The court got it wrong. I have always hated the ruling in this case.
Can I sue my wife for booby-trapping our house? I'm tripping over vacuums and open dish washers all the time!
Gary Franklin
booby trap or beaver dam?
Yes you can under Article 129-38.602B of the Mississippi State Statute so long as she is called Tiffany, is a Registered and Practicing Hairdresser (see ruling MIS 298.2367-A) and You are also paying All the Attourney and Court fees, no matter how the case ends up.
So I'm completely on board with the boobie traps being banned (due to risk of hurting innocents, EMT workers, firefighters, etc.)
The MAJOR problem I have is with the burglers or criminals being awarded money. Should the person who made the boobie trap be punished? Perhaps, but under no circumstances should any money be awarded to the criminal. There should never be any case where a burgler can ever successfully sue the victim of their crime and be awarded money for it ever, regardless of what the home owner did. The home owner should be punished separately if a crime was committed, but not in such a way that rewards the criminal.
While I don't agree with the burglar getting anything, i fully agree that the potential to harm an unintended victim is far too great.
No lethal traps.
@John Patriot eagle freedom boner if they were injured in any way by your nonlethal trap... let's say they get pepper balled, panic, try to get out half blind and fall and break their arm. Are they still suing you, the homeowner, for setting said trap?
Criminals should never profit from their crimes. Citizens should never be punished for defending their families or property, no matter what they do to the criminal.
@@NikoBellaKhouf I do agree there. I don't think anyone should be punished ever for defending themselves. The only reason I'm really opposed to the booby trap thing is the great risk it has to innocent people (like first responders) As first responders shouldn't have to be in constant fear of booby traps anytime they're called to a house.. But yes, I don't believe anyone should be punished for anything done to the burglar in defense of their own home.
@@OneWheelMan Yeah from what I've heard from old timers is that those booby traps tended to get someone innocent, like a family member, more often than it caught criminals. It's just really frustrating when you get burglarized and lose everything and you can't do anything about it.
To the wealthy elites who pass these laws, property and possessions may not seem important but to the poor, someone breaking in and stealing what little you have doesn't seem so trivial. If the judicial system would stop handing out slaps on the wrists for people breaking in and stealing their victims wouldn't be driven to taking matters into their own hands
I wouldn't booby trap my house, but this is not addressing the problem. The problem is the government being unwilling or unable to actually catch criminals. The percentage of crimes that are completely unaddressed by police in cities is a serious problem. Ultimately, unsolved crimes represent injustice. If the system can't provide justice, ultimately, people will take the law into their own hands, in a variety of ways. Expecting anything else is insane. Solving crimes regularly, providing actual justice solves a tremendous amount of vigilantism.
@Motersickle Bum I don't think the Federal government has that much influence on law enforcement - the laws they're enforcing aren't burglary, larceny, etc. Local government is responsible for the vast bulk of law enforcement activity.
I am a believer in intervention. Children that abuse animals can and often will carry out violent acts on children & later, possibly on adults. Of course their victims are helpless. If a puppy is chewing on something it not ought to, you remove that object & distract with something else. Give them something else to focus on.
And I do believe we are, our brothers' keeper.
Hi Steve.
Can you address the legalities of non lethal booby traps, such as shooting rubber balls or a Taser?
Thanks.
When I lived in Wyoming I put up a sign that said " Despite local laws this house is heavily booby-trapped"....one day when the police showed up I gave them the grand tour.....there were no booby-traps....and they agreed....it is not against the law to put up a sign that lies saying your house is booby-trapped....hahahahaha
Nice!
It's like putting up
'Beware of the dog' signs,
but if you have these signs, someone breaks in and the dog attacks them,
you're the one that's in trouble
because you've basically admitted that the dog is dangerous. (IKR)
They're a good deterrent, though.
I haven't even got a dog
but I have 2 of these signs.
@@abegarfield543 I agree with your comment 100 percent and is exactly why I don't have any such signs on my property. Instead, I have 2 actual dogs. No doubt you would take down your signs if you were to get a dog. To be clear, companionship and even love are the main reasons I have them with me, but the 'security feature' built into most dogs is awesome.
Reminds me of the "Never mind the dog, beware of the owner" or other pro gun/2nd amendment signs. Even if you don't own a single firearm, it may get some tweaker to think twice before entering your property.
Yes, perfectly legal, you have freedom of speech and that includes the ability to lie. And hey if it works go for it. Just don't set any real traps because that is both illegal and immoral.
I'm a retired firefighter, and I can tell you that boobie traps suck.
This is so many kinds of wrong. The lesson here is if you set a trap, make sure it kills the burglar. Dead burglars cannot sue.
Sadly, family and friends WILL
The problem is when your home is broke into the officers will not even try to take finger print etc to catch the bad guys. All they do is give me a list of stolen items and I will give you report for your insurance. Crime pays now days.
anyone who breaks into a house assumes the risk of injury, this decision should be overturned
Unless a firefighter or police or medics or member of the public breaks in to rescue a child from a burning building. That suddenly looks like no one would do it if they might be blown away.
Steve, my friend and I live in Georgia, he used to date this girl that lives Maryland, Maryland has red flag laws and Georgia does not, she got a restraing order against him in Maryland, by the time he was notified of a hearing when he could defend his self, that date had already passed, but that's not my question, the sherrifs Dept in our county in Georgia came to his house and served him and took his guns, even though ha has no red flag law, how can Maryland impose there law on another state? Thank you have a great day
Thieves should be executed. Just my opinion. A thief’s life is absolutely not worth my stuff.
That's what occurs in some Middle Eastern countries. Or, cut the hand off!
Nothing says that you can't rig a paint spraying device that sprays the intruder with dayglow pink spray paint that does not wash off easily and glows bright purple under UV /blacklight that shows beyond a reasonable doubt that they were there, along with multiple motion activated trail cameras.
abatoir ink is better.
one spot takes nearly 6 months just to fade
If he had not set up this shotgun, the thief/burglar would have gone free. So by condemning the owner, the judge had just "legalized" burglary?
That's why you use a bear trap, "I thought it was a bear that kept breaking into my other house."
Right? Just post "caution: bear traps" clearly.
@@Gideon_Judges6 Why, some of the smarter people out there will say " well im not a bear I'll be ok"
What? In central New York?
The guy was too honest: no officer, that isn't my shotgun, I didn't rig it. Maybe I was even the intended victim
Even better, that's my shotgun that someone broke in and stole weeks ago.
what happnes when the find his prints on it
Imagine, people being honest. What has this world come to?!
@@alfredgosner2112 should mot leave any prints on it or claim it was your gun they rigged
so the moral of the story is make sure they don't survive?
And make sure you get home and take apart the trap. “Yes officer. I shot him. I don’t know why his body already smells”
Why would you do this?
There was a case in France around 1970 where a man owned a vacation cottage that was repeatedly burglarized. He put a bomb in a large portable radio, and put it on a high shelf. He put up warning signs at the front gate, front door, many places. On the radio, he put a note, "Warning! If you turn this radio on, it will explode!". Two burglars visited the place. We all know what happened next.
The survivor, who was severely injured, sued. The jury awarded him something like one Franc.
In the case law which you reviewed I didn't hear any consideration for assumed liability. Does not the person assume liability for torts or damages when they intentionally break into a home or business?
The law should be... you forfeit your right to live as soon as you enter uninvited to another person's property...
Agreed . Although we do not have guns in the uk . The law should ot be defending the criminals when ppl are only protecting themselves or their property
A few years back, we purchased 5 acres. A young man discovered that he could come into circle a huge old tree and head back out...tearing up the drive and grass with his dirt bike. We (mother & young teen boy) were not comfortable about confronting the older teen bully about not coming onto our property. Decided to see if he could be detoured. With a 2 x 4 and some nails, we laid it out in the grass area & covered with leaves with pointed nails up. The next afternoon, said bully was seen pushing his bike home and never returned.
god for bid any thing had happned to that kid you would have been liable for any and all injuries that he suffered because you placed that spiked board there
@@alfredgosner2112 "god for bid any thing had happened to that kid you would have been liable" Well God did for bid and all was right with the universe. I love a simple plan that works out perfectly.
I lived on a corner lot, and we had a punk kid from down the street used to take a "shortcut" across my lawn. This happened three times..and the cops said that there was nothing they could do. So. I put two heavy metal rakes in the yard, and waited. Sure enough...this moron blasts across the lawn, and the metal rake got caught, and RIPPED out everything from the engine on back, including the rear axle. Destroyed the car. They tried to sue. Umm...nope. Not against the law to leave a rake in the yard...
@@alfredgosner2112 Not if I were on the jury. All he would get would be to hear my guffaws from the jury room.
I like how he was riding there on probably empty land then you buy it and never talk to him ? what an asshole
so how about the store owner in miami fl, booby trapped a vent opening with electricity... killed the burglar... he was arrested. the whole community surrounded the police station demanding they let him go and reward him with a medal for catching this thief that had broken into dozens of stores..... i think this was back in the 1980s or 1990s... ? the district attorney let the store owner go with no charges...
Should’ve aimed that shotgun a little higher....dead men can’t sue.
And you have an alibi for the time of death.
Also, if there is a story to tell, make sure it's only your story
No but their relatives can
So, how long until a burglar gets detected and sues because the loud burglar alarm scared them and caused severe emotional harm?
Yesterday
Got his feeling hurt!
Probably when loud noises can make someone bleed to death
Bad guy: Do you think your stuff is more important than my life?
Me: Do YOU think my stuff is more important than your life?
Don't want to be severely injured or killed? DON'T FUCKING ROB PEOPLE. No sympathy, that lawsuit should have been thrown out immediately
Well because he was not killed the home owner got sued. If he was killed the being sued part wouldn't have happened. Though he might have been charged for murder if reported.
@@yumri4 What if a burglar left without setting off the spring and three curious eight-years-olds wandered in through the open front door and sprang it?
Randall M. Natural selection is a bitch huh? Should probably teach children to leave other people’s stuff alone. I teach mine that.
@@chilipepperdclc1998 if one of ur kids die I hope someone tells u it was natural selection
Me and a friend, broke into a shack, in an old abandoned loggers camp, when I was a kid. A rifle with a string was connected to the door. Don't think the old rusty gun was even loaded, or capable of firing. But it sure made us think twice, about ever doing that again!
Wouldn't an injury award from a case like this conflict with laws that prevent criminals from profiting from crime? Just a thought.
Moral of the story.... dead men don't sue.
Did it work? Did anyone else try to break into that farmhouse again?
That is what I want to know also!
No No No the courts should stop blaming people for protecting their property against thieves or trespassing in any way they see fit.
Favorite part of the trial was the defendant being asked if he would do anything different after being sued by the burglar “I’d have aimed that trap a few feet higher.”
So someone right to live. No matter what choices thay make in life.
Is the same as a law abiding citizens.
Far as im concerned thay made the choice to go where thay should not. By law.
Thay deserve anything thay get.
Their own decision. Is there own down fall.
Not saying set up a gun or trap.
Just saying there is no way the criminal should be able to sue a homeowner.
if someone breaks into your house to steal stuff but isn’t threatening you directly but you shoot them to protect your property. They survive. They can sue you. You’ll both go to jail but you would receive a heavier sentence. So always shoot to kill an intruder. A dead man can’t sue you.
Case closed
But their family can. But I agree with you.
@@shibosuru The state also still can.
I live in a place that is full of naredowells. If you leave your home for a few days. You can expect to be robbed. I don't share. I don't invite guests in my home. I had neighbors inventing reasons to be in my house. I got attracted out of my house. Then beaten to a pulp. ( Mugged) I crawled to my car. Then spent 4 days in hospital. On my return home. I found Jimmy marks on my door. Was this a warrantless search? I think my property has been searched and my wealth has been assessed and im just the custodian for my things strangest thing. The sheriff/ da/judge did not care. (Wish not to persue sorry om) I got a CCW and a pistol. Now every body cares. By the by I have die packs set to paint the next perp. The die packs have a hard to miss sent. ( Skunk/perfume) I'll call a state trooper next round. Take care sgt williams retired
Yup, living in a place like that you ALWAYS have to have somebody home. Always. And that person at home needs a .44 Magnum minimum. I got no issues blowing human garbage away to kingdom come, because in my eyes, they just aren't people. In other words, they are practically begging for it. It's a shame I have to warm other people about the old crying baby/kitty routine to lure them out of their houses. Some people even send their own children to a target's door to get them to get their guard down. These days, if I don't know you, or don't recognize your voice, or it's 3 in the morning, I'm not opening the door. If the other person on the other side gets enraged and pushy the more I tell them I don't know them, or offer to call the police to help them, you better believe the other person on the other end has no good intent.
People be scary, man. I travel, and lived in an apartment temporarily once where there was this one lady trying to get to people by trying to get them to open a can of beans for her. Going door to door, asking for people to open cans and bottles for her....for some reason. My can opener was actually busted, so I told her I couldn't help her and I was sorry, and closed the door. She. Went. Ape. Shit. She miraculously no longer needed her green beans open, but she did have enough energy to scream, go "really?" and bang on my walls, calling me an a-hole. I just recorded the whole thing. You never know. Also with these people, they are so unhinged, they will see you not falling for their uber transparent tricks as a "snub", and you'll be on their little one-sided vengeance list forever. These people go around, telling people as screwed up as they are about the lil' bitch/bastard down the way who "refused" them. You may have only said hi, or bye, or only three words to them, but they will add on so much b.s. to the story, they got a little equally braindead army to act on their own petty behalf. All because you wouldn't give them what they wanted, or refused to give them an opportunity to scam or steal from you, or use you in some way. I swear THIS is what happens when we get rid of asylums. We're left to deal with the sicko freaks who clearly need meds, a padded room, or are on drugs.
@@ARedMagicMarker up comeing visit to vacate at home is comeing to my town. Some wonder why I keep a propane tank chained to my entry way of my hobble? I'll shoot it and Whipe out the needle Bearing jerk and frends......I took a oath to protect my country against terrest threats domestic and foreign. .......my mother kept a pot of boiling hot water near the door. And boiling WATER WILL GO THRUGH A VEST IN A NEW York MINUTE. 1,2,AND 3 DEGREE. Burns Will give pause to think. .....
Your life is not More important then my stuff
Note to self...... Dead men tell no tales
There is an old saying, "When a tree falls in the woods and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Thieves are not annoying they are not frightening they can inflict just as much harm as someone with a gun. My house was broken into 2 times at the cost of $40,000. As far as I’m concerned that is enough to physically do harm to a family. I bet the guy who got shot never broke into a house again. If it happened more the stealing would stop, either from fear of a boobie trap or simply by the thieves no longer are around to steal. One of the thieves in my instance was caught he spent 1 whole year in jail. When he was released he was arrested for doing that same thing to someone else. There is no justice in that. And so everyone knows guns, gold and money aren’t covered by insurance unless you have a specific policy for those things. Thieves are a drain on society no matter if they are in jail or on the streets. They cause injury as well. Even if you aren’t home.
I took some laws courses about 20 years ago, and we talked about this case. I understand the reasoning about personal safety, but I still totally disagree. If you don't belong in a house, don't go in. Maybe the home owner makes booby traps as a hobby. Makes no diff. You don't want to get hurt, don't break into peoples' homes. Further, a burglar who likes my house probably likes other houses, too, so I'm doing the community a favor by thoroughly injuring or killing a burglar. Also, what if I'm home next time? Why should I have to confront the burglar face to face? Why should I have to take that risk? I wonder how many people who agree with the law's finding have ever been burglarized.
One reason home invasions are lower in the USA. Criminals think twice because they think they may get hurt or shot. If im out of town i put up 3ft tire spoons they'll get hit in the face with if they approach my tools. Neighbor also would know if someone goes into my garage because it'll be loud and he can deal with the perp. Also having good neighbors to relie on is a big help. If i see someone entering my neighbors property. Ill be sneaking in behind and they'll regret entering someones home.
I think it has more to do with the punishment being proportional. If you notice, all your arguments also work just as well for giving the death penalty for burglary.
Would you also advocate for penalties of death for burglars on the grounds that "you don't want to get hurt, don't break into peoples' homes"? That really the community is better off having the burger dead?
Similarly would you also extend the death penalty to every crime because the community is better off without criminals? Or perhaps one ought to have the right to shoot a reckless driver driving nearby? After all reckless driving is often also a habit, and society is better without reckless drivers.
I'm not saying you believe any of this; I personally think it's absurd and assume you don't. My problem if we go by what little you said, any punishment at all seems justifiable to any crime. Where do you draw the upper limit on punishment?
@@brettcatterall7761 And if I see you doing that, should I also sneak behind and make you regret entering someone's home? I would but I'm worried a 4th person will then sneak behind me.
@@randomnobody660 hey if you want to sneak in behind me going to my neighbors which i do daily. Just hope you're better trained than me. Otherwise you'll be survived by your family. Say what a good boy Daniel was
@@brettcatterall7761 alright bud. Careful not to cut yourself.
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS AGAINST THE LAW DOES NOT MEAN YOU CANNOT DO IT. BREAKING AND ENTERING IS AGAINST THE LAW BUT THEY STILL DO IT.
"Sure, I believe you, but my Tommy Gun don't. Tell you what, Snakes. I'm gonna give you to the count of ten to get your low down, no good keister off my property. One....Two...TEN! RATATATATATATATAT! Keep the change, ya filthy animal."
Hollywood Gold
You should be able to. That is just the stupidity of our legal system. Protect the criminal not the law abiding citizens
A fireman entering your house to extinguish a fire is not a criminal.
@@hughmccurdy3348 cept for the fact it wasn't a fireman that got hurt
@@zironemegeaz I know. But such an automatic trap doesn't distinguish between a criminal and a fireman.
How about if the owner of the home puts up a sign that says “Free stuff.” Then after the house is empty and vandalized, the city or county condemns the property, then Meth manufacturers move in and burn the house down with their makeshift lab. This actually happened to a house down the road from me. Minus the free stuff sign. But, they might as well have put up a free stuff sign if there’s nothing that can be done to stop thieves from taking from the home.
I'm a firefighter. I often force my way into people's houses for the purpose of search/rescue of trapped or unconscious occupants, and to access the interior to extinguish the fire. Generally, people are happy that I break down their door and/or windows. Please don't kill me while I'm trying to help you.
That was my first thought - what if the house were to catch on fire?
I used to work in natural gas distribution. People hit the gas lines all the time. If it’s a big enough break we may do a forced evacuation of the area.
We have the police knock on doors and if no one answers we have them kick in the door and search the house.
Rock R I can’t say for sure, but I believe the utility company did. I do know the utility billed the person/contractor for damages, so in turn likely added the doors into the bill.
Good for you. I don't leave any device on. No mater how cold it gets.( My house in Texas burnt down). I don't use dangerous weapons. To defend My home. other than die/ sent packs. (Red/skunk) I do have fire suppressing devices. That will not. Strike some one. Just scare the hell out of door busters.
No. You got balls enough to run into a burning building, you can deal with a few ounces of lead. You step on my property without my permission, your life is forfeit. No exceptions.
Wow. How times have changed since Kevin did it in Home Alone.
@WV JJ
Do you have any idea how many laws that kid broke? He was a complete psycho. And there is no way anyone would survive those traps. Those burglars would be dead for sure and little Kevin would be going to prison.
Had the same thought, but really, since Kevin was present and (somewhat) in control of the traps he would have been defending himself and probably would have been exonerated.
This is why I support Public Canning. They be much less of that shit here. Vote for Capital punishment.
I can't listen to this without getting pissed.
You have the right to protect your property, and nobody said the homeowner is the "judge jury and executioner."
The right to keep your stuff from being stolen outweighs the right of some criminal asshole to steal your hard earned precious posessions.
( RAT TRAP ) Interesting enough I myself when I was younger building a motorcycle parts in the backyard secured I thought someone at night came in and stole parts that being said outside gate was the problem went to the store purchased a rat trap added nails around the snapper screwed it to the gate added one more plank to the gate it’s ready someone tries to reach around open the gate surprise snap on their fingers it happened found blood all over the trap I went out to everyone I knew looking for taped fingers and knuckle them up, no luck didn’t find anyone.🕶 But it worked great.
This sadly reminds me of what my father and my grandfather taught me. Don't injure a home intruder you kill them. Your word vs theirs and they are dead. Otherwise the courts pull shit like this.
I think alot of people are missing the point ( maybe didnt watch whole video ) of why you cant bobey trap an unoccupied house with a deadly device . It really does come down to exactly what he pointed out . If the house is bobey trapped and a fire breaks out and the firemen enter the house to protect your belongings you have put them at risk .
Now if someone is attacked by your dog upon breaking in or slips and injures themselves or impales them selves ( with a knife for instance ) somehow then those are not the owners fault but the criminals fault and laws should be written to reflect that .
Now if the dog attacks the firemen, persay , are actually the laws that criminals seem to be taking advantage of . That's the problem with laws now . Some lawyers are just a slimy as any other criminal and they intentionally take advantage of a law that has obvious intent and intentionally misconstrue the intent of the law to a jury .
Same with the right to live argument. If you got stranded in the middle of nowhere and entered an empty house or unoccupied house as a means to save life and limb that is not burglary and though it is break in and entering it's not actual CRIMINAL BREAK IN AND ENTERING.
Laws are written to protect people but laws also have what is called INTENT and that is a part of law that police , lawyers , prosecutors and judges all have seem to have forgotten . Intent is very relevant to every law and intent , which is explained in good samaritan protections for example , are how laws are supposed to be used and applied .
booby trap to kill. clean up the mess and bury the thief six feet under. no worries.....
I stumbled upon a cabin ( shack) deep in the East Texas big thicket forest. It had signs on 2 sides: NO TRESPASSING. CABIN IS BOOBYTRAPPED I did not test it. I kept going..
That was MY old place .
Near Rye , Texas ?
Thanks for not dying on my property ..
How is this different than having a fence around your yard with the sharp tips pointing up? Thief impales himself while climbing over it with your tv when you’re not home. Maybe traps are ok as long as there’s no gun powder. Maybe if I need money I should climb over a fence with razor wire at the top and sue the owner for a bunch of money.
The problem is that it's concealed. It's to protect innocents and public servants. The fire guy can see the fence and avoid it. Can't see the shotgun behind the door, unless hes Superman in which case that wouldn't matter unless it was loaded with kryptonite slugs.
Burglers deserve lethal booby traps. Its the legal system thats in the wrong, not the property owners.
Accurate
Agreed. This also encourages house owners to secretly dispose of bodies they manage to capture and it’s fair play
@@JeremyBercow wouldnt need to secretly despose of the bodies if the kill was legal. just tell the cops to come pick it up and do some paperwork. It not being legal encourages hiding bodies.
I'm on the home-owner's side. You should be allowed to put a sign "mined, danger" or something like that and rig the shit out of your house.
You can barely defend yourself from a thief in Canada, let alone an unoccupied dwelling 😂.
A few years ago a guy in Ontario fired warning shots at a group throwing molotov cocktails at his house, and he was charged, with his guns taken.
It took him 2.5 years and 60k to fight the unsafe storage charges (when the weapons were stored properly) 😂
Guy had his entire gun collection impounded, because the cops on scene charged him with careless use of a firearm.
The legal system is screwy 😂
Never fire a gun unless you intend on hitting someone. That’s the rule.
I disagree, a Property Owner should be allowed to do that. Especially if they are too Impoverished to afford a Burglar Alarm.
Thanks for the "Like" on my Comment.
Explosive device.....sounds like a crossbow would be ok. You shouldnt kill to protect things....could be reversed and said are you willing to die to steal things. Only one person makes the choice....the thief.
Rest assured home owner if I’m on a jury hearing your case in relation to something like this, your assets will be secured, with me rest assured.
You're asleep, unconscious, so before you went to sleep you set a spring gun. The house catches fire. The firemen break in to rescue anyone who might be in the house. The spring gun shoots and mangles a fireman.
I cut a small hole in my bedroom closet wall that leads to my hallway (covered up by a picture frame) and have a fire extinguisher hooked up to it. My bedroom doors made of steel, if anyone broke in my house while I was asleep, I would wake up, spray the extinguisher instantly fogging the hallway, they'd probably get startled, assume it's pepper spray or mustard gas & hopefully flee. If not i also have a gun.
Oh Pete's sake. Honey can you go into the back yard and pull out those punji sticks. 😆
As a 20 year veteran fire fighter booby traps and vicious dogs were always a major fear.
Vicious dogs are why I will never take a job delivering packages, cleaning pools, installing cable, plumbing, electrical, or installing home theater systems.
This is my issue with it. In fact I assumed this is why it's illegal.Especially an unoccupied dwelling. Kids go in there partying, light a candle, catch house on fire- fireman gets shot. Or what if neighbors report the break-in & the cops show up? Gas leak. All kinds of stuff. What if the property owner dies & someone has to go in there? I totally sympathise with not wanting your home broken into, and the idea of a burglar winning a suit like this really p&&&es me off, but yeah, I do understand why you can't booby trap your property..
A firefighter in full gear shouldn't be afraid of any dog less than 150 pounds.
@@charlidog2 I'm not entirely sure he meant the dog itself. If a vicious dog is a distraction the fire fighter has to deal with, when they often literally have no time to spare, none, it could cost them their life, or someone else's life.
@@PhilAndersonOutside Sure.
On the issue. if your home is marked, booby trap it. Don't like it, stay off the property. Now, only the home. And you can only kill people who attack your home. That is a sacred place, and should not be considered an option to attack by anyone.
That settles it guys, make sure your spring traps are aimed at head level. Do your part to clean up the streets.
... by cleaning up your hallway.
Well..... What if.... Intruder breaks into a house with an alarm system, becomes startled after alarm goes off and dies of a heart attack! Do we still blame the home owner?
The intentions were there to ward off intruder/defend property and the same outcome came about with death from intruder.
We're second class citizens
"Second amendment the person, right out of your life."
-Steve Lehto
Lol
My mother got sued by a robber that tried to rob her while she was getting out of her car at home because the family dog jumped out the window and tore him up. He had to get 172 stitches and the dog broke his arm. The judge threw the case out.
Thank God for the dog. It's amazing how in this day and age the only people who have your back 100% no matter what, aren't even people. Now the robber has a 127 stitches worth of scars, a no win lawsuit, and hopefully jail time as a souvenir.
@@aaronlewis2150 Yes he ended up getting 16 years because he had a long Rap sheet of strong arm and armed Robberies in the past!!
He also had to pay restitution for the Window the dog broke while going to save my mother.
There is an instance in Missouri where two crackheads broke into an old person's house and was stealing their pills the elderly person walked in on them and they proceeded to beat him to death I think trapping your house would be just fine because anyone with the intent on entering someone else's home. Is not doing it with good intentions by any means
That's what I've been telling people! But they don't get it! They say "It's a life!"
And I'm like "Yeah? A bad life!".
@@Cacowninja that's when you bring up abortion to those people cuz those are probably the same people that think it's okay to kill babies
@@skylerrowland9144 They're 2 totally different subjects so I'd just focus on the fact they support the criminal over the victim.
@@Cacowninja that maybe true but if they want to say a life is a life they can't pick and choose. They would rather kill an innocent then a guilty party that cares nothing for others it might be different subjects but they have enough of a similarity to be thought provoking.
No body, no crime. That's why you need to use a sarlacc pit at the front door.
What do you do if there is a vehicle?
Or an accomplice?
"Warning ! Opening door may trigger deadly device" seems simple..
You're assuming your trespassers are going to be literate.
I'm guessing some people who become criminals aren't. Just a hunch.
Those laws need to be changed to allow property owner rights to protect their property occupied or not.
"Mr. Reede. Several years ago, a friend had a burglar on her roof. He fell through the skylight, landed on a butcher's knife, cutting his leg. The burglar sued my friend. He sued my friend! Because of guys like you, he won! My friend had to pay the burglar $6000. ls that justice?"
"No. l'd have got him ten."
That sounds like injuries sustained from breaking in.
That’s BS ... that’s not justice at all
@@spleantrampoline There is a saying, who can tell the best story wins. There are many biases, and quite often they are in place to support the system over the people.
That's from the Jim Carey movie liar liar
Why shouldn't you be judge, jury, and executioner of your own property? I don't agree with protections for anyone breaking into, stealing, or whatever other crime they might be doing on private property; and a criminal should have NO right to sue anyone when "they" were in the act of a crime. It's absurd. If criminals weren’t protected in their crimes, we’d have a lot less crime.
Two wrongs to NOT make a right. You can't self defence someone when you're not there to be defended. At that point you're the aggressor not the victim. Property can be replaced, if you don't have enough care or responsibility to be there to ensure it's safe or hire someone to do those jobs, sell it. What you're essentially proposing is negligence is permissible, that would be an extremely horrid and bad idea for numerous scenario's I won't even get into out of respect for Steve because they would be EXTREMELY dark. Want to try "Why laws are made the way they are for 200$?"
For $40 you can buy a tripwire that sets off a 12 gauge blank. These devices are 50 state legal and defined by the ATF as "noisemakers". I have one on my back gate.
Remington once sold an electric cartridge primer for its rifle ammunition. These are expensive collectors items now. The advantage was very rapidly firing and low trigger pressure, a motion detector could set off this device.
How about setting bear traps in case a bear breaks in.
...and drinks all your beer.
quite simple if he hadn't been there illegally he would not have been shot … ergo … it's his own decisions that put him in that situation … therefore it is his fault not the owners … hint to owner … next time shoot to kill not wound
There should be no legal problem with setting traps for criminals, as long as the trap only catches criminals. All of the maybes, possibilities, and other nonsense coming from bleeding hearts should be discarded. The entire concept that a firefighter or police officer may get injured or killed is nonsense unless it actually happens. The only thing that matters is that the court is considering a criminal that was injured or killed. Booby traps are not punishment, nor are other deadly confrontations with criminals that result in the injury or death to the criminal. The property owner is preventing a criminal, and if the criminals and the bleeding heart criminal lovers dislike this concept, then don't commit crime. Punishment is what happens after the criminal is caught, arrested, tried, and convicted and sentenced by a full court jury.
Criminals definitely don't deserve such protection. The entire concept of allowing criminals to sue victims should be abolished as well. If we can force our legislators to adopt such changes to our legal system, we can reduce the crime rate drastically.
I've heard of construction guys putting nails in boards upside down so when someone goes in in the dark they get a few long nails in their feet. A criminal is never wearing work boots. Never heard of of anyone getting sued for locking away work hazards. Construction sites have boards with nails in them go figure.
Just set the house up like you're doing some remodeling and when they come in the door 200 pounds of bricks comes down on their head. Sorry didn't intend to hurt them.
Signage and a building permit would be required - Fair notice of the hazard.
In the seventies a lot of people had CB radios in their cars. One guy had his stolen five times before he welded a bunch of fish hooks to his. The next morning the criminal was laying there waiting apparently he could not let go.... I heard he had to pay the guy
I had a co worker that has his car stereo stollen a few times. He then taped double edge razor blades to the radio. One day he opened his car to blood everywhere. But the radio never got stolen again....lol
I'm upset that no one calls this the "Home Alone Law" or "Kevin Mccallister Law".
That sucks. Someone can bust their ass to earn money to pay for something they really want, and that thing is worth a lot to that person and a criminals life is worth more? Not to me it’s not. Why would a government put a value on a criminals life? If a criminal dies while committing a crime hell at least the tax payers don’t have to support him through out a prison term. I’d call it a win win.
Jesus says we are all sinners
I lockup room is common in my area. Just make a spare bedroom or any empty space and harden it so no one can get out once they get it. The best space that I like is in a basement. The crooks can go down the stairs but once they enter the room below the stairs, the door swing shut and locked on the outside. The only things in the room are a portable toilet. A small 40 white bulb is at the top of the roof /ceilingA small window the top of the roof that is barred up tight A water jug. Some hard tack biscuits. A hidden camera with sound. An old mattress. And an old wool blanket. When someone enters the room alarm will go off to the owner and the fun begins. You obviously can’t keep them as a prisoner but it does take time to call the police. Stuck in a cold basement with smelly old mattress to sleep on will punish anyone that just drops by.
Lol what area is this?
I think a homeless person might like the bed and blanket and the food
So I guess landmines are out too....
if i was on that jury no way I give the thief money
To me. It doesn't matter. If your going to be a thief SUFFER the consequences, PERIOD. Whether you or home or not, break in and you will get what you deserve,,,,, your a damm thief. DO NOT BECOME A THIEF. And people want have to go to crazy lengths to protect their property.
If you’re breaking and entering or stealing you are taking your life into your hands and you deserve whatever you get!