One minor thing that you may not have noticed if you haven't watched the show, the move, the grocery store worker and the happy home-maker are all minor characters from the previous episodes, reinforcing that you never know who in your life might be on meds.
I took it as them using tap as a visual metaphor for functioning in daily life - getting the meds (the tap shoes) is the thing that allows her to join in-step with everyone else and keep up and tap along.
I'm sure you've also gotten comments about "The Darkness" and "A Diagnosis", but there's a session in season 2, in "Nathaniel and I Are Just Friends" that made me cry. I got the one quote that Akopian says in that session painted on a canvas near my desk. And by the by, this song won an Emmy award!
I share this with clients who are struggling with depression and have tried a lot of non med things which havent done enough. Its a light hearted way to destigmatize the subject.
There are so many other songs from crazy ex girlfriend that are worth reacting to: the darkness, a diagnosis, getting bi and finally time to seize the day, i would love to get your opinion on that!
Same!!!! Ty for quoting that one! It is such an amazing light-hearted depiction of how often people think a romantic partner will help them with they psychological issues. I felt so read but it was so funny it made me laugh about myself.
I just got over nearly a year of repeatedly getting serotonin syndrome from ssris and such and nobody believed me due to the fact i "wasnt taking enough to cause that reaction" I was literally about to give up and figure that i just couldnt be happy ever again... But i ended up firing my previous psychiatrist and finding a new one who cautiously upped my dosage to see what happened and confirm what was going on. I am now on welbutrin and i feel better than i have felt in over 21 years, and my chart will now always say that i am allergic to serogetic medications So i guess my takeaway for everyone is this, keep fighting, good mental health is worth it!
About meds in general: - you can't know if you'll get a side effect until you try. So try: if you get it, talk to your doctor and change the med! Is as simple as that. Some people don't find the right med for them, some find the right ones at the first try, but most people try different ones until they find the right ones for them. Me, the first try worked, no side effects and I immediately felt really happy and focused. It can happen ❤ And if it doesn't, that's normal and okay! Don't lose hope. It is a trial and error process, it needs patience, maybe at the third try you'll feel like your life is changed. It is worth the trying.
I agree with this for most medications, except caution is needed with antidepressants in particular as they can in some cases cause permanent side effects even after you stop taking the medication (PSSD).
My brother once told me he didn't deserve to take these or go to therapy because there are so many people who have it worse in the world and they are the ones who deserve this (as if there were limited quantities or something). The truth is even Kim Kardashian can get depressed. No matter how wealthy or beautiful a person is, no matter how many friends they have… everyone has the right to ask for help if they aren't feeling like themselves. Anyone can have depression.
I love that the Americans always need to have this translated while in my country those are the names we use and I have to translate the American names when I see them.
🙃 I'm not sure how much watching this show will help someone pass the NCE, but I think that is a GREAT idea and I fully support NCE study musical numbers!
I wish my doctors would have told me the meds would make me more insulin resistant. My PCOS symptoms and depression got worse, not better. And I couldn’t just quit because it would make me even sicker from withdrawals. It was hell for two years. No one warned me about this even though they knew I have PCOS and issues with hyperinsulinemia.
Why aren’t doctors educated in protracted withdrawals and why aren’t they talking about how dangerous they can be for so many patients? This video is so stupid and annoying. Love to all those suffers of withdrawals and having such a hard time getting off these things. Heroin would be a walk in the park compared to suffering with protracted acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).
I love the song but I do agree with you: doctors should talk to the patients about withdrawal, and explain in details what can help avoid withdrawal and when it can't be helped, first thing when they prescribe a med. Patients should be fully informed and many doctor don't do it and by not doing it they can damage their patients.
@@hopelesslyhopeful4396 That’s 100% correct 👍🏻. Informed consent it’s called. In years to come we will find out how dangerous it is to prescribe a patient an ssri within 10 mins with a so called “chemical imbalance “. Now we all know that it is a theory and not science.
I second the cringe response. I’m sure the pharmaceutical companies loves this free advertisement! Choosing a medication is a big deal. The song and dance and just saying the words doesn’t talk about the months & months it can take to adjust medication to correct dosing. Which can be very disheartening. And nothing about adjuncts to meds or things to try before jumping on meds or about the sometimes very difficult withdrawal from meds. It does feel like a sugar coated tablet they’re offering here with a lot of flash but honestly little depth. Been a masters level clinician, trainer, and supervisor 30 years. And definitely have been known to have a lighthearted humorous vibe when authentic and appropriate, but this doesn’t make me laugh. I haven’t watched this show and probably won’t after this snippet. Full circle: it makes me cringe. PS Appreciate a lot of your youtube offerings - thank you.
if you are just seeing this clip, then there's a lot of context from the show that you're missing! at this point in the show, rebecca's been diagnosed with bpd and done a LOT of work around that already. and there's a lot of dialogue missing from the conversation before the song starts- she sees being prescribed antidepressants as a setback, and also talks about having been on antidepressants before she came to california and how she just doesn't think that they work for her. i can see how the song might come off as glib if you don't know anything else about the show. but mental health is arguably THE central topic of the show, and they definitely take a lot of care in showing how there *aren't* easy fixes when trying to get better. i would honestly recommend giving crazy ex-girlfriend a chance- it's a smart, insightful, compassionate show that offers a lot more than you'd expect.
Seeing one song out of context from the rest of the show probably does make it seem shallow or misrepresenting the facts. Without many spoilers, the show really does go into great deal about mental health, from diagnoses, treatments, medication, the setbacks and the long path and hard work it takes to manage it. The point of this particular song is about destigmatizing medication for folks who see it as a failure to even 'need' to be on medication, which is the nudge Rebecca needs at this time. In between the drama and events of the show, Rebecca has workbooks she fills out, she goes to both individual and group therapy, she applies what she learns from her therapy, and in fact she DOESN'T jump straight to medication; her doctors started her without medication, and this episode is where they first bring up the possibility of moving her onto one. The show makes it clear that it's not a fix, it's a process. Honestly, I highly recommend this show. It has its comedy, but more than that, it has a heart, a sympathy, and an understanding about mental illness that I have NEVER seen in other shows; and clearly written from the perspective of people who deal with mental health problems. I know that *I* felt very seen by this show, and it helped me piece together some of what *I* needed to work on. Of course, all the recommendations aside, it might just not be your thing, and that's definitely fine, too. ^^;
The song isn't saying the choice of medication is to be taken lightly, it's saying that socially, it's normal, not taboo, and not some huge judgement on a person. The main character isn't freaking out over the side effects or interactions or cost, she's worried about the stigma and her personal feelings about being put on meds in general. You can't take your medication seriously if you are busy avoiding and freaking out about the entire topic anyway, you need to be able to see it as not a big deal to actually genuinely stop and look at the nuances of "this med or that one or none at all".
I started taking Prozac in my late 40's and stopped in my late 60's. I stopped because, well, I was not longer depressed "AND" I suspected the drug of 'screwing' with my Libido. I am slowly getting my sex drive back, but it's been a real struggle. So I would recommend anyone considering anti-depressants to DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Perhaps a sibling is or has taken the drugs and will tell you "well, since you asked, This is how the drug effected me." They may not have shared this info, until you asked. But let me add; while I am getting back into my sex life, I have to build up for around 8 days in order to have a wet orgasm, and I cannot rely on any erection to speak of. So while many men had to deal with; 'not big enough', early ejaculation, and other conditions, I would testify that nothing compares with ZERO ability to drape a dry towel over one's penis to demonstrate your virility. I'd say a lens cleaning cloth will be my first goal as even a small wash cloth would instantly over whelm any soft-erection I might struggle to get and instantly fall to the floor between my feet. ...As far as the effectiveness of anti-depressants, understand that life does NOT instantly have one base jumping off high cliffs (with a parachute, of course)! Or, running in slow-motion to someone who might appeal to you. It's a slow progress that you find yourself accepting dinner dates or as a man, making such dates. But even that comes slowly and I did NOT find myself running around like Mr. Clean, dusting and cleaning. So deal with the slow-motion railroad you'll be on for some time, but remember to fiddle, if you will, with your Libido. Personally, I would NOT have taken Prozac had I understood the tradeoffs. Good Luck
I am sorry for your experience and I feel angry at your doctor honestly. Prozac was not the right med for you, period: a good doctor/psychiatrist suggests to the patient to try a different one when they are having bad side effects. (And that side effect with prozac is super common - I didnt have it, tho, but it is common - but not all antidepressants cause it. No doctor should have the approach "eh, the side effects are inevitable", it is not true)
Pretty much all ssris do this to some extent. Not every person will have it, but a large majority will. As a clinician I see this very often and most people simply live with it. One of the reasons I only prescribe ssris in very very extreme circumstances
One minor thing that you may not have noticed if you haven't watched the show, the move, the grocery store worker and the happy home-maker are all minor characters from the previous episodes, reinforcing that you never know who in your life might be on meds.
@@baconstrips6260 lol what?
@@Venslor Don't bother. Everyone use their free time differently. This one chose conspiracy theory. It happens
@@MrTheta78 fair, I guess the worst part is realizing that i've had a youtube account for 15 years.
@@Venslor Yeah, I was a bit surprised to find I was already signed in to RUclips without realizing it, I think this is just my Gmail or something.
@@MrTheta78 😂literally
I took it as them using tap as a visual metaphor for functioning in daily life - getting the meds (the tap shoes) is the thing that allows her to join in-step with everyone else and keep up and tap along.
I'm sure you've also gotten comments about "The Darkness" and "A Diagnosis", but there's a session in season 2, in "Nathaniel and I Are Just Friends" that made me cry. I got the one quote that Akopian says in that session painted on a canvas near my desk.
And by the by, this song won an Emmy award!
What's the quote? Is it "You're a different person than the last time you tried" or "You need and deserve love"? I'm really curious!
*Season 3
I share this with clients who are struggling with depression and have tried a lot of non med things which havent done enough. Its a light hearted way to destigmatize the subject.
I keep sending this song to friends who need to ask about antidepressants. I have a 100% success rate. Lol
I am also a therapist, and I have shown this video in session. LOVE this!
There are so many other songs from crazy ex girlfriend that are worth reacting to: the darkness, a diagnosis, getting bi and finally time to seize the day, i would love to get your opinion on that!
my second favorite mental health related song from crazy ex-girlfriend is 'a boy band made of four joshes', i would love to watch your reaction
Same!!!! Ty for quoting that one! It is such an amazing light-hearted depiction of how often people think a romantic partner will help them with they psychological issues. I felt so read but it was so funny it made me laugh about myself.
I just got over nearly a year of repeatedly getting serotonin syndrome from ssris and such and nobody believed me due to the fact i "wasnt taking enough to cause that reaction"
I was literally about to give up and figure that i just couldnt be happy ever again...
But i ended up firing my previous psychiatrist and finding a new one who cautiously upped my dosage to see what happened and confirm what was going on.
I am now on welbutrin and i feel better than i have felt in over 21 years, and my chart will now always say that i am allergic to serogetic medications
So i guess my takeaway for everyone is this, keep fighting, good mental health is worth it!
That's a good takeaway from such a bad experience! So sorry your first therapist didn't take you seriously.
"A diagnosis" is one of my favorite songs ❤️
It's the ringtone for my doctor.
About meds in general:
- you can't know if you'll get a side effect until you try. So try: if you get it, talk to your doctor and change the med! Is as simple as that.
Some people don't find the right med for them, some find the right ones at the first try, but most people try different ones until they find the right ones for them.
Me, the first try worked, no side effects and I immediately felt really happy and focused. It can happen ❤
And if it doesn't, that's normal and okay! Don't lose hope. It is a trial and error process, it needs patience, maybe at the third try you'll feel like your life is changed. It is worth the trying.
I agree with this for most medications, except caution is needed with antidepressants in particular as they can in some cases cause permanent side effects even after you stop taking the medication (PSSD).
You might like "This Session is Gonna Be Different"
And "A Diagnosis"!!
My brother once told me he didn't deserve to take these or go to therapy because there are so many people who have it worse in the world and they are the ones who deserve this (as if there were limited quantities or something). The truth is even Kim Kardashian can get depressed. No matter how wealthy or beautiful a person is, no matter how many friends they have… everyone has the right to ask for help if they aren't feeling like themselves. Anyone can have depression.
I love that the Americans always need to have this translated while in my country those are the names we use and I have to translate the American names when I see them.
They're brand names
yeah I take fluoxetine and we just call it fluoxetine haha
Another great therapist in media to react to is in "Ted Lasso," season 2, episodes 1-3.
I'd like to see you respond to Crazy Ex-Girlfriend's Fit Hot Guys Have Problems, Too
That's a good one! I recently heard the song that inspired it and it's so 2000s/mid 2000s MySpace era music 😅
I loved watching you reacting to this! It was amazing.
I was just thinking yesterday if someone could create the NCE study materials in song I might be able to retain the information better.
🙃 I'm not sure how much watching this show will help someone pass the NCE, but I think that is a GREAT idea and I fully support NCE study musical numbers!
I seriously think you should watch ir full
Your cadence is really similar to mama doctor Jones! Yall sound so similar when speaking
I really just like this la la land esq vibes
This is the only comment that notices the clear La La Land reference that's happening in this number!
YES it’s basically that party prep scene from la la land
I wish my doctors would have told me the meds would make me more insulin resistant. My PCOS symptoms and depression got worse, not better. And I couldn’t just quit because it would make me even sicker from withdrawals. It was hell for two years.
No one warned me about this even though they knew I have PCOS and issues with hyperinsulinemia.
i watched this episode yesterday and it reminded me to take my lexapro lol
using brand names because i cannot figure out how to pronounce the generic of it lol
im a little dissapointed you didn't react to the abused rescued dog
Connor (the abused rescue dog) made me so sad. Poor thing
My rescue dog who’s on fluoxetine felt very seen
My ex told his mother when i started taking anti d (without my okay) and turned out several relatives of his are taking them.
Eep! That's my comment!
Yay, so excited ^^
💛
Why aren’t doctors educated in protracted withdrawals and why aren’t they talking about how dangerous they can be for so many patients? This video is so stupid and annoying. Love to all those suffers of withdrawals and having such a hard time getting off these things. Heroin would be a walk in the park compared to suffering with protracted acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).
I love the song but I do agree with you: doctors should talk to the patients about withdrawal, and explain in details what can help avoid withdrawal and when it can't be helped, first thing when they prescribe a med. Patients should be fully informed and many doctor don't do it and by not doing it they can damage their patients.
@@hopelesslyhopeful4396 That’s 100% correct 👍🏻. Informed consent it’s called. In years to come we will find out how dangerous it is to prescribe a patient an ssri within 10 mins with a so called “chemical imbalance “. Now we all know that it is a theory and not science.
I second the cringe response. I’m sure the pharmaceutical companies loves this free advertisement!
Choosing a medication is a big deal. The song and dance and just saying the words doesn’t talk about the months & months it can take to adjust medication to correct dosing. Which can be very disheartening. And nothing about adjuncts to meds or things to try before jumping on meds or about the sometimes very difficult withdrawal from meds. It does feel like a sugar coated tablet they’re offering here with a lot of flash but honestly little depth. Been a masters level clinician, trainer, and supervisor 30 years. And definitely have been known to have a lighthearted humorous vibe when authentic and appropriate, but this doesn’t make me laugh. I haven’t watched this show and probably won’t after this snippet. Full circle: it makes me cringe. PS Appreciate a lot of your youtube offerings - thank you.
agreed - am a clinician
if you are just seeing this clip, then there's a lot of context from the show that you're missing! at this point in the show, rebecca's been diagnosed with bpd and done a LOT of work around that already. and there's a lot of dialogue missing from the conversation before the song starts- she sees being prescribed antidepressants as a setback, and also talks about having been on antidepressants before she came to california and how she just doesn't think that they work for her.
i can see how the song might come off as glib if you don't know anything else about the show. but mental health is arguably THE central topic of the show, and they definitely take a lot of care in showing how there *aren't* easy fixes when trying to get better. i would honestly recommend giving crazy ex-girlfriend a chance- it's a smart, insightful, compassionate show that offers a lot more than you'd expect.
@@warrigan6786 agreed
Seeing one song out of context from the rest of the show probably does make it seem shallow or misrepresenting the facts. Without many spoilers, the show really does go into great deal about mental health, from diagnoses, treatments, medication, the setbacks and the long path and hard work it takes to manage it. The point of this particular song is about destigmatizing medication for folks who see it as a failure to even 'need' to be on medication, which is the nudge Rebecca needs at this time.
In between the drama and events of the show, Rebecca has workbooks she fills out, she goes to both individual and group therapy, she applies what she learns from her therapy, and in fact she DOESN'T jump straight to medication; her doctors started her without medication, and this episode is where they first bring up the possibility of moving her onto one. The show makes it clear that it's not a fix, it's a process.
Honestly, I highly recommend this show. It has its comedy, but more than that, it has a heart, a sympathy, and an understanding about mental illness that I have NEVER seen in other shows; and clearly written from the perspective of people who deal with mental health problems. I know that *I* felt very seen by this show, and it helped me piece together some of what *I* needed to work on.
Of course, all the recommendations aside, it might just not be your thing, and that's definitely fine, too. ^^;
The song isn't saying the choice of medication is to be taken lightly, it's saying that socially, it's normal, not taboo, and not some huge judgement on a person. The main character isn't freaking out over the side effects or interactions or cost, she's worried about the stigma and her personal feelings about being put on meds in general.
You can't take your medication seriously if you are busy avoiding and freaking out about the entire topic anyway, you need to be able to see it as not a big deal to actually genuinely stop and look at the nuances of "this med or that one or none at all".
this video kinda feels cult-like, love it but has a slight cultish undertone
In what way? Like wdym? /gen
This is demonic
I'm guessing you know absolutely nothing about the show.
You sound like someone who needs therapy.
I started taking Prozac in my late 40's and stopped in my late 60's. I stopped because, well, I was not longer depressed "AND" I suspected the drug of 'screwing' with my Libido. I am slowly getting my sex drive back, but it's been a real struggle. So I would recommend anyone considering anti-depressants to DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Perhaps a sibling is or has taken the drugs and will tell you "well, since you asked, This is how the drug effected me." They may not have shared this info, until you asked. But let me add; while I am getting back into my sex life, I have to build up for around 8 days in order to have a wet orgasm, and I cannot rely on any erection to speak of. So while many men had to deal with; 'not big enough', early ejaculation, and other conditions, I would testify that nothing compares with ZERO ability to drape a dry towel over one's penis to demonstrate your virility. I'd say a lens cleaning cloth will be my first goal as even a small wash cloth would instantly over whelm any soft-erection I might struggle to get and instantly fall to the floor between my feet. ...As far as the effectiveness of anti-depressants, understand that life does NOT instantly have one base jumping off high cliffs (with a parachute, of course)! Or, running in slow-motion to someone who might appeal to you. It's a slow progress that you find yourself accepting dinner dates or as a man, making such dates. But even that comes slowly and I did NOT find myself running around like Mr. Clean, dusting and cleaning. So deal with the slow-motion railroad you'll be on for some time, but remember to fiddle, if you will, with your Libido. Personally, I would NOT have taken Prozac had I understood the tradeoffs. Good Luck
I am sorry for your experience and I feel angry at your doctor honestly. Prozac was not the right med for you, period: a good doctor/psychiatrist suggests to the patient to try a different one when they are having bad side effects. (And that side effect with prozac is super common - I didnt have it, tho, but it is common - but not all antidepressants cause it. No doctor should have the approach "eh, the side effects are inevitable", it is not true)
I took Zoloft for 8 years and it definitely was horrible for my sex life. Luckily, the med I'm on now has very little effect in that area of my life.
Pretty much all ssris do this to some extent. Not every person will have it, but a large majority will. As a clinician I see this very often and most people simply live with it. One of the reasons I only prescribe ssris in very very extreme circumstances
Yes, and the side effects can continue after you stop taking them too (PSSD)