Razer Ornata keyboard review (Razer Mecha-Membrane)
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2018
- Skip to 13:19 for a typing demonstration.
You asked it, you got it! We finally take a look at the Razer Ornata, with its mecha-membrane switches. This keyboard gave me a LOT of material to work with, hence why it turned into a pretty big project. Hope you enjoy the video! :)
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a Razer Ornata right now. This must be one of the worst-built keyboards I've ever seen, this thing has so many negatives. Why not just buy a real keyboard?!" 
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reads title:
"mecha membrane"
oh yes.
My keyboard is mecha membrane and it cost 30$ + mouse and a xl pad :] this shit is 100$? lmao
JacoMPG the cooler master one sucks even more
@@randommkeyz5029 Meh I disagree. Though both are pretty shit, we're basically comparing turds here.
@@restingpinguino You mean settle for less expensive? Knowingly paying more for something you can get for much cheaper is retarded.
Literally way more expensive than other "Mechanical Feel" keyboard
When Chyrosran firmly and clearly explains why Cherry Blues are better, you know something is up.
Those were alps
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques 5:10 I didn't know there was a version of the Razer Blackwidow that featured Alps LMAO
def cherry blues, not alps
@@rsfan0914 don't think the other guy knows what part of the video I'm referring to.
Either way, comparing this abomination to Cherry or Alps Blues is a no contest. Comparing MOST switches to Alps Blues is a no contest.
@@jb_lofi comparing clicky switches to my sweaty asshole is no contest and the ass wins
I love how this is the second video from you that I have watched, and the first review of a keyboard was very calm, poised and polite.. in comparison this is the tale of a man that loses faith in humanity
XD
"I can feel the shadows closing in ..." LOL
God I love chyrosan
Oh boy, my friend has this and defends it to no end. This will be fun
My coworker has one and loves it. The only thing I'll give to Razer is that it has 6KRO on a rubber dome, which is uncommon like what Thomas said. If you really prefer rubber domes over switches, then this one is for you I suppose. However not my cup of tea.
AWK anyone who spends $100 on a membrane keyboard would try to defend their purchase as not to feel buyers remorse.
send him this video :DDD
@@ElZamo92 true hahah
You need better friends! 😜😆😂🤣
Razer can slap gaming on anything and sell it for $100
Its just a loud rubber dome keyboard
Don’t forget the rainbows
George Chen and their unicorn (cancer software)
Gaming Desk 6900$ 31% Discount !
I bought it for 50 and I'm sad i did
(It was new but still)
Well yes and no
My friend has an Ornata and when I went over, I was surprised how this membrane keyboard didn’t make me want to shoot myself.
It’s not great, but it’s really not horrible
Friend of mine _had_ an Ornata... But I literally threw that out of the window and gave him my old G810...
@@FinlayDaG33k i need a friend like you
@@jehezz I mean, I didn't use the thing anymore, would be a waste to have it collect dust...
for $35 i can’t complain lmao
@@nojons_ You do know that the original Ornata costed 80 bucks and the new one costs 100 bucks right?
Thank you. I saw this keyboard in the store. I actually really liked the "flood" look of the lighting and the way the keys felt on a quick poke through the cutout in the box, and I thought the wrist rest looked nice. It was on the lower end of my price range for a new keyboard, so I was considering it. Now I know that every feature I thought looked good is actually trash. You saved me buying this, and definitely gained my subscription for that. Fascinating channel, thanks again.
tbh, you saying the word "hideous" sounds light years better than that keyboard
I will Forever use that hideous sound byte till the very end.
sounded like ASMR xd
did you bone ?
Just purchase him and replace yo switcher with his switches xD DONE
its like the click
I'm willing to bet that Razer's keyboard division does not contain a single person that has even heard of Alps switches
No, probably not actually xD .
Well those ALPS switches can't be good if they aren't in modern gaming keyboards and also Cherry invented mechanical keyboards, duh!
the most people dont know these "alp switches". are there even modern keyboards using that shit?
@@vuki968 There's the Matias switches which are modern alps clones.
its the management, there's probably lots of keyboard geeks there but management wants something reeallllly cheap that they can sell for ludricrous amounts of money...
I know nothing about keyboards and I'm trying to do research after tipping water on my old one (might be ok, but it made me realise I should get an upgrade), this was a very useful and informative video, I loved the detail on the internal mechanisms!
Damn this man's voice is very satisfying to hear
8:15 10:56 *this isn't even my final form*
*MEGA HIDEOUS*
"The build quality clubs baby pandas to death."
That a…weird way to put it. You'd think that a better build keyboard would make a better club :P
This is a good point xD .
Just hope that nobody who hates pandas will ever buy a Model F.
XD
@@TuxmanXP Or an early Model M
@@stigrabbid589 Technically, a baby panda would probably not survive being clubbed with my 2018 Unicomp. I won't try though.
6:16 what a nostalgic sound of the ringing that omitted after typing on the lower keyboard
This is my favourite keyboard review ever. During the lockdown I wanted to cheer myself up with a new keyboard and I had no idea what to buy as I had only used the cheapest keyboards until then. After some brief surfing on shopping websites, this was on my list but then I came across this review! Anyway, I got me and my wife a razer blackwidow elite each and we love our new keyboards. Thanks for this great review. Looking forward to hear your opinion on blackwidow elite as well :) Take care!
Blackwidow Te Chroma in the return pile... cant stand the CLAKCLAKCKAKCALACKACLACKACK
Before watching this, I just know it's gonna be hilarious.
Especially when he says "HHHHHHHIDEOUS!"
@@pip5528 * see to my comment * lol
Has his videos ever not been for once? lol
The way they are packaged lets you click the arrow keys while they're still in the box, so I always like to click a bunch of the buttons on these keyboards at Target as I pass by but every single key feels and sounds different. I would've liked them if they weren't so unbelievably inconsistent.
I love a smooth soothing voice is raging and cursing over keyboards
Your voice is honestly soothing af almost fell asleep to this review and I mean that in a good way.
Like this comment if you think the Razer Ornata is a truly endgame worthy keyboard, and is superior to all mechanical keyboards and Kustoms. These comments don’t make sense now, since this is an edited comment. Congrats.
Basically a mushy, loud rubber dome with some tactility
Should to looked for coolermaster hybrid switch.
"CrIsP tAcTiLe ClIcK"
How and why does your profile picture do that motion blur?
@@tomaspostorivo High quality ok price
ever time when i am thinking on upgrade my old g710+ i wach Chyrosran22 revriew and "i am fine for now" :)
Get Topre Type Heaven and thank me later.
@@computercomputer8922 That's a really bad advice as far as I am concerned. Why upgrade keycaps when you don't have decent switches in the first place? Not to mention the non-standard layout and extra keys both of which would make the process of finding compatible set painful.
@@computercomputer8922 Show me a Tai-Hao set that's readily available and has 1U Windows keys. Not to mention he could have ISO layout.
@@computercomputer8922 Okay. So he should swap ABS keycaps for other ABS keycaps and lose backlighting for 36+ bucks. Is that what you're recommending? Common, man. Also, no ISO Enter, only bigass.
At that point, I'd rather desolder the Cherries and use some Zealios or Kailhs instead. It would be cheaper and actually constitute a meaningful upgrade.
Just get a Unicomp buckling spring. :p Doesn't look like a glorified Christmas display and I don't even have any winkeys or key legends.
I love how intense the typing demo feels because of the rgb
After using this keyboard for a while you can tell which keys you have used more since the "mecha" part of the key switches wears out after a bit which kind of sucks
The intro is ASMR and so is your voice :)
the inconsistency is caused by the leaf springs, they are probably made with a cheap alloy and their elasticity doesn't stay the same after a few weeks of using.
Yeah, that's my guess as well.
@@Chyrosran22 Btw, after getting that shit Ornata keyboard, I got myself "educated" (thanks to you and your channel) and now I have a K70 with all keys replaced with Box Jades ;), thanks!
Mine never showed this inconsistency after 1.5 years of daily usage. I dont type bottomming out in general though
ok, what option do i have if i want clikiness but less than mx cherry blues? and less price? cause now i'm just confused; I hate browns; all i want is a solid tactile sensation in a subdued clicky switch. where do i get that from? Mx blues are too noisy; mx browns are too easy to actuate; where do i go?
love your descripstions and comparisions, make it enjoyable to watch, lol. nice work
I had the exact same option after just a few minutes in a store further confirmed after a co-worker bought one and complained of the loss in tactility after just a few weeks of use
@rutai Razer is not exactly well known for its quality control.
@rutai Again, Razer is still not well known for quality control.
I´m from the R6s match, subbed.
Ohai! 8)
the way you said "hideous" gave me goosebumps. I turned the volume up to listen, as your voice is actually pleasant to listen to, and just hear you say that with the fury of a thousand suns
This review perfectly encapsulates how I feel having to use one for the time being.
I just love the way he says hideous
*Mecha-Membrane keyboard exists*
Me: *Confused typing*
I suppose the only instance where a shorter keycap would improve actuation speed is if the keycap was so rubbery and mushy that you're essentially pressing down on the stem through the keycap.
I haven't noticed any difference between my two keyboards in terms of actuation speed despite one having bog-standard Cherry profile keycaps while the other sports DSA profile keycaps.
I’ve had my ornata for YEARS and it still works super well. Also mecha membrane means it’s got membrane for the spring back, and mechanical sensors
What’re ya talking bout? It’s just a crap rubber dome with an unnecessary clicker
Mechanical sensors? I’m assuming you don’t actually know how keyboards work so I’ll explain this now. The membranes are not the rubber domes. The membranes are thin sheets of plastic with contacts printed onto them. They work by squishing two layers together through a spacer. The rubber domes go over the membranes to create key travel and a tactile event. There is no “mechanical sensor” in this keyboard. This is how every membrane keyboard works. The reason why mechanical keyboards are called mechanical is because there is an actual mechanical process happening to close a circuit. In Cherry switches, the slider pushes against two metal contacts which makes touch together and closes the circuit. There is no membrane in mechanical switches. This Ornata is basically a fancy Dell keyboard
Oh boy, my friend who owns this keyboard almost succeeded to convince me to buy this Trainwreck.
Yes to the comment about putting an alps leaf into an MX switch. This needs to happen.
Your voice and humor combined are the best
To those who bought Ornata V2, do you find some keys not consistent in terms of clickiness?
thanks for this review, i was considering this as i dont game, but i do a lot of typing and i like the short stroke of laptop keyboards, but also wanted a little more tactile feedback, and slightly larger keys, i played with a store demo, but the build quality had me on the fence, i have a feeling the rollover would be a problem, my current laptop does appear to have nkro
This review is what I call HARD LOVE. Thomas is very funny, but he is very serious at the same time! He is the METER in keyboardland. And he is great teacher. An educator really.
I have used this keyboard for a few years now, and I don't have ANY of the problems you mentioned except the light bleed part.
One of the top DPS in my guild swears by this keyboard. I tried one that was out on demo and it wasn't that bad.
This man can make swearing sound presentable.
can you switch the dome switches out with other ones or no plz I need an answer
Damn, you only have 28K subs? Heres to hoping you blow up mate, great vids, glad i found you.
Cheers :D .
"This Jif I found online"
Oh sweet, I'd been looking for my Jif. Thanks for finding it.
Part of me wants to make "HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHideous" into my ring tone for my phone.
so I've been using this keyboard for about 5 years and finally ordered a new one, hopefully I've gotten better at picking good products since then
This kb feels absolutely fantastic for about 5 minutes in the shop. I always find myself reverting to my good ol' Cherry MX Browns though. :)
Though to be fair, the reviewer seems to have a somewhat defect example. Mine doesn't warp like that and is perfectly stable with the legs extended.
I’ve watched this an unhealthy amount of 19 times.
Ryan_ thank you, I shall watch again
13:19 Wow, you can really hear how rattle-y the spacebar sounds. You'd at least expect decent stabilizers, but nope. You get that. Thank you so much for this review, this is one of my least favorite keyboards of all time.
I wanna know because I have 2 keyboards I have the razer ornata chroma and a redragon k552 but I don’t know which one is better the k552 is mechanical
when I got my ornata chrima, it does not click. I need help
I was like wtf doing a review on this old shitty keyboard. Then i learned this is the man who speaks the truth earned a sub LOL
Haha, if you think this one is old, you should see some of the others I've reviewed! xD
Sadly, Ornata is one of the best Razer keyboards. (because it works)
yea, that's gotta mean something.
And, 10KRO in Ornata doesn't mean you can press 6 letter keys+4 modifiers?
But it's still bulshit because i can't find any shortcut that uses over three modifiers and that's ridiculous how Razer uses marketing tricks that would be barely acceptable in 30$ membrane keyboard, but in the really great Cherry MX board price range, it's just a joke.
Rollover comprises the MINIMUM amount of keys you can press, so the modifiers are irrelevant. However, they also don't make it go over 6, no.
@@Chyrosran22 Yep, it still is 6KRO and never denied that.
but some companies use 10KRO to tell that keyboard has better rollover (which is obvious bullshit)
@@lugi1 yeah, I'm really not sure how to even achieve that xD .
lol, Razer Ornata finally matching the reputation of their mice. Flimsy piece of utter crap that is a joke next to Chinese brands that go for 1/3rd the price. Who even buys their junk mice and keyboards anymore? I guess the A4tech clone keyboards could be okay, but those are made by the vastly superior, if tacky a4tech and cost a bloody mint!
@@anasevi9456 Ironically, their mice are actually decent now, while their keyboards are shit. We've gone full circle.
Thank you so much I was going to buy this keyboard as a replacement but seeing how mushy and inconsistent this keyboard is I will just keep mine
Have you ever put a rubber dome inside an mx keycap? It still gives a hard bottom out but makes the switch highly tactile.
As a former owner of this *terrible* keyboard, I can definitely say the upgrading experience was a huge relief. I was lucky enough to resell it for 80$ (USD)
I started watching your review of this "gaming" rubber-dome keyboard fully expecting it to suck.
Glad I wasn't wrong :)
Hey, at least it lights up very _tastefully_ -like a circus- so the consumer group it's marketed to will be fully satisfied!
It's a mushy, inconsistent, bleeding, slightly tactile Christmas tree, just in time for December! :D
Sam Wittsell, nice summary, fellow Linux user :D
@@jasondoe2596 Indeed!
Eh, I have one and it's great
Eh, I'm sure it could be much worse!
This thing cost 52 usd in my country, is this keyboard worth to buy? Or should i buy logitech g213? In my country g213 cost only 42 usd?
10:56 that weird texture wears down quite quickly and after 3 years Im still in love with the rest
To achieve 10 key rollover, you need to put it in Game mode.
I've been using this keyboard on my PC for a year and I like it just as much as my Logitech G610 I use on an iMac. Since you probably rank the MX Browns in the G610 somewhere between stinking Rhino dung and a gallon of milk that's 6 years past its expiry date, I feel my taste in keyboards is pretty consistent.
The only thing I really DON'T like about this keyboard, is the backlighting - unless you light up the ENTIRE keyboard, it's useless. As you demonstrated, lighting up a single key, lights up a neighbouring area similar to the numpad in size.
Never really thought of the keys as inconsistent - I may have noticed a difference in sound, but put it down to a charming quirk of the keyboard.
After watching your videos I've started to realize that my G610 may indeed be a bit scratchy, but I haven't used anything similar to a buckling spring keyboard in literally decades.
I would like to get my hands on one of those... Fujitsu...(?) keyboards that use the "tombstone" keycaps - I remember these from when I was a student, and they were maybe even better than the IBM keyboards.
I've got an old Apple Extended keyboard II - but my ADB to USB adapter somehow makes at least one key unavailable (on a Mac). Together with the IBM and Fujitsu (?) keyboards, the Apple Extended II make up my All Time Top 3 - but I'm quite happy with my G610 and Razer Ornata Chroma as daily drivers.
The only thing I don't like about my G610 is that the keycaps have come loose at times - I like to tap the arrow down in a sort of "lazy but like a bawse" fashion, but I had to stop doing that. Even if the stems of the keys aren't fully exposed, I do believe the old fashioned "turtleneck" style of having the stems FULLY covered by the top plate was a good idea.
Keep up the good work!
Agree the huge inconsistency shown in the keyboard on this video I believe is really not normal for an Ornata Chroma.
@@raulsaavedra709 probably due to a bad "batch" of leaf springs?
@@dragonsai3092 Maybe. I decide to record a short video myself showing how the keys on my Ornata Chroma sound. Will share the link shortly, not sure if RUclips might remove it. I will also share it in Tweeter in a reply to Chyrosran22, so at least it should remain there
@@dragonsai3092 Video with the sounds from keys on my Ornata Chroma here: ruclips.net/video/3USxR1agr60/видео.html
I recently got one of these at half price. The only gripe I have with this review is about the texture of the wrist rest, which I find perfectly fine. Personal preference I guess.
I have this keyboard and it’s awesome I’ve had it for 6 months no problems and it feels so good while clicking
same
but i already want a new one
@4:15
That's weird.. I've had my ornata for about a year now, and my keys does not sounds like that....
Mine neither, I think it's a manufacturing problem
Saw one of these at Bestbuy the other day when out to get a wifi adapter. Gross af tbh
Unbiased review is great.
Great review should I get this keyboard or not? Currently using a razer Blackwidow chroma v1
Does the leaf spring not create some resistance when pushing the key down? I thought a bit of resistance = tactility but I am probably very wrong. You are the keyboard expert here
Bought it, send it back after 2 hours
I actually love the wrist rest. And im not even gonna defend this as it isnt worth the stupid price, but I've enjoyed it for a many years i've had it now and all in all it isnt too dog shit, but I am now aware there are much better options. Great video anyway, gave me a chuckle, subscribed.
I won this keyboard in a gaming tournament and I have to say I love the wrist rest too. The keyboard isn't that bad either
@@Elsuri313 exactly, I love the feel of the wrist rest and I damn near cant play or do ANYTHING without it!
I know this video is 2 years old. I'm wondering if you know if these have keycap replacements?
probaly not
How do you put the switches back into the keyboard?
My friend has one of these and yours sounds completely different
Now that's the patented Razer inconsistency I know and hate.
Tell ur freind to return it
Lmao there are cheaper mechanical keyboards with higher build quality and much better feel that shit on this keyboard
Don’t worry I already have told them to return it
cool
is it only me that finds his voice so satisfying.
You can actually push the key so down already down than release a tiny bit and it goes back up to the rubber domes but doesn’t actually go all the way up and you are able to click the rubber dome without getting the “tactile” click
Is the cynosa chroma quieter than the ornata chroma
I must have gotten lucky and got one that’s built pretty solid. One of my fav keyboards to date, haven’t heard or felt the inconsistency like the one he had.
Mine is super good too I think he got a bin one
I have an Ornata and I quite like it. I don't seem to have any of the inconsistencies that you had. I like it because in my personal opinion the click and feel are very nice, I like the included wrist rest, and I like the low profile keys.
1. It's not low profile 2. It's still inconsistent 3. It's 70 fucking dollars you could've gotten a used mechanical keyboard
Hey mate, love how in depth your videos are. Any chance of you doing a review on the Hyper X Alloy Fps Pro keyboard? I'm looking at purchasing the ten key-less version with blue switches and would love to hear your opinion :) Cheers
I'd like to do one for sure, but I don't have one atm unfortunately.
@@Chyrosran22 No dramas, great content anyhow man. Subbed
Does it have a headphone Jack or input?
I feel for anybody that gets sucked in by this garbo when they could get a Magicforce 68 for forty bucks less.
Its so damn funny when he curses in his voice lmfao
OMG your hot AF. You're the only girl commenting on this F-cking *H I D E O U S* video?
@@HBC101TVStudios SIIMP!!!!!
congrats on 100k btw
After watching this video and deciding against this keyboard, can anyone recommend me a keyboard with a more normal font but with rgb? Like I love the font and colors which is why I wanted to get it since I'm pretty illiterate to the whole mechanical keyboard thing, but all these rgb keyboards seem to be obnoxiously designed with crazy shapes and fonts. I just want a keyboard that wouldn't make me look like a fool if I tried to use it in public, but i could still make it look nice at home
One of my weirdo coworkers loves this keyboard. I tried them out for a few seconds so my comments aren't that valid but they are disappointing. I prefer my Razer greens and especially my Unicomp buckling springs. What's worse is Cooler Master has a similar keyboard that's $70 dollars and includes a "gaming mouse." So you get essentially the same keyboard plus a mouse for a cheaper than Razer price. Damn son. However if you really need this keyboard, Black Friday sales seem to still be up for this keyboard, dropping it from $100 to $75.
I think Cooler Master even has Mechanical Keyboards which are cheaper than a Razer Ornata
I got for 60 euro
I'm *Very* happy with this. I kinda liked the ornata when I tried it. It wasnt that great, but it was good enough, better than a standard membrane me thinks. Although, I will say, my $25 amazon blue key knockoff mech is far better quality than this.
AfterDark3 why didn't you just buy a mechanical keyboard?
Lunr Kai Uhh I did. I have two. A cheap cherry blue knockoff board and a matias tactile pro. I tried someone else’s razer.
i liked it when trying it out but then they were starting to sound different
and now the clicks are bothering me
Chyrosran, could you recommend me a keyboard? The thing is, I like the tactility and the general feel of Razer Ornata much more than any MX or MX-like switch, but I wouldn't pay more than 30bucks for it. So do you know any rubber dome keyboards that have similar tactility to Ornata but are not made by Razer?
Thank you for your channel!
Hi mate, try getting a BTC dome with slider board. They tend to be very cheap and feel better still IMO. Might have to root for one a bit though.
@@Chyrosran22 Thank you for your reply. Great moves! Keep it up!
God I can't get enough of your cursing. Cheers from Argentina!
che boludo xd
@@savetimer7732 que onda boludo xd
i own this keyboard.. dont buy it
Of course they were referring to the fact that movement takes time to travel through an object as the molecules slam into each other, and thus having a shorter keycap design allows them to save about 1 microsecond off the actuation time /s
so there we have it excellent review btw.
I have the same keyboard at home. and the consistency across all the keys remain the same, i’m not sure what is causing the problem you’re having but it sure is weird. i bought mine last year for half it’s price so i was lucky enough to get it then. this keyboard might try to be some sort of “budget fake mechanical keyboard” but i’ve been using it for a year and the only problem i came across was the numlock indicator light burning out. besides that i say it is worth the price i paid (55€) and not it’s full price. Also, please don’t be offended by me saying this but you may have recieved a keyboard which has been worn out pretty well (which isn’t always great to review), otherwise i can’t explain the inconsistency in the keys, or the wobblyness of the keyboard when resting on the flipout feet. I still wouldn’t buy it if it was anything higher than 60€
TheSpiderJem I got it for 60 euro on black friday
Same here. I have mine and he did say " I got one donated to me" so he got one that has been used for a while. Just like you my keys are ALL consistent.
yea...i just got the same keyboard....i also have not problem with them
@@nealborad it had seen half an hour between its two previous owners :p .
I have the same keyboard and I’ve had it for about a year or two it still feels the same and I have no problems with it
Model M is kinda mecha-membrane.
The term is meaningless, really. Even "mechanical" doesn't really mean anything.
@@Chyrosran22 If you follow the actual definition of mechanical in the dictionary then you would realize that even a cheap $5 hp office keyboard with rubber domes is mechanical.
@@agrisimfarming I did a whole video about this topic :p .
Don’t you think that they could have advertised the small key caps as low profile?
My keyboard is kinda weird. It looks and sounds like blues but in actuality its membrane AND a blue switch that is not two parts. It's basically browns/oranges just with a click.
I can't believe I was ignorant to the point where I was gonna buy this, omg thank god
Scorebat Lol I already bought this before watching this and now I feel stupid
Although I am used to a laptop keyboard (never had a PC before) so I’m pretty sure I’ll be ok