My thanks to both of you, much appreciated. Question: I have a new build BBSHD/BBSO3 with a 52 volt battery and the DCP 18 (UART) display programmed with the ECO/SPORT settings. PASS’s levels are listed as 5 in both ECO & SPORT when connected to SPEEED 9 levels are visible. Do you know which levels are assign to ECO or SPORT? I have seen some that suggest this set up only uses odd levels 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 but no mention of which mode uses them. Any assistance would be helpful.
Many thanks for this well put together video. My old Apollo bike was very erratic and jerky after my Bafang conversion, after watching your video video I bought the cable and set the parameters exactly as you have set yours, my bike is now running really well, couldn't believe it would be so easy . Also a big big thank you to SPEEED!
Bought the cable hoping to find someone with a pc to gelp me out.watched this video part way through went to the local electronics store downloaded the app at the counter as i was buying the otg cable rushed home, finished the video made 2 changes pressed the write option . And bamo worked like a charm .lowered my pas cutoff from 200ms to 100ms and changed my throttle response all other settings seemed fine .all from my android phone. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for this video. I hadn't been aware of the Android App.. very useful. The Bafang BBS conversion motors are not programmed well, and reprogramming them as you describe makes them much easier to live with. One comment.. the device on the handlebars that you refer to as the "Controller" is usually called the Display (hence "By Display's Command" as a setting in the program). The controller is mounted directly on the motor assembly, and its function is to supply power to the motor .
I agree. Idk if this would work with either of my ebikes but it would be nice. I like the way he wants his ebike's assists to be low until the higher levels. My Ancheer tried to throw me off the damn bike back when i first got on it, lol. I had no idea it was going to be automatically set on pedal assist.
I am still looking for a reason why I have lost my PAS but it is looking more and more as if this happened ever since I modified my settings as per your video. I would love to get a definitive explanation from Bafang but as usual, they are providing NO SUPPORT OR HELP???
I got this and it works.. be careful when making adjustments.. I wanted my throttle to be less aggressive.. went to "throttle" > READ... then adjusted then lowered the "start voltage" lower to .5.... This gave me a error code, 04H... (this means throttle high voltage) which didn't make sense.. The motor wouldn't turn with throttle and the PAS stopped.. OH NO....! I went back and read the help icon... it said it must be at the least 1.10 start voltage to operate or the motor shuts down as not to damage the motor because the current is too low. My recommendation.. only reset one of the parameter at a time.. otherwise, it is almost impossible to figure out the change you made that caused the bike to shut down.. I read somewhere, if you get a error code 04H... disconnect the throttle cable, and if the error code goes away.. replace the throttle.... NOT THE CASE.. you just need to reset the Start Voltage setting to min 1.10... And do not set over 4.40 top throttle voltage or you can burn out the motor... This is a big LEARNING EXPERIENCE... But the app an the adapter cable work great..! Thanks
Good video. As you say this software is extremely solid and a dream to use, used it for 6 months. One suggestion, save the original settings in a file on your android device. (Software let's you do this easily) so you can return to these settings if you find your changes don't suit you. The changes to the throttle settings are a good use of this software.
I had wondered about being able to save the default settings before messing around with them. So, the speeed app has this capability? Or is it the phone you save through. I'm not clear on this. TIA for any help you can give!
I assume you figured this out by now? I haven't played with it yet, I'm still a little nervous lol , is there a way to save original settings before I mess with it from the app?, on my phone? Thanks!
Both your videos on programming the controller are really helpful. Just finished converting my MTB to an ebike with a 750W Bafang & have same controller 500c. Going to follow your settings as at moment in level 2 it straight up to 25 kilometres, 3 is 35 ks then seem very little change in speed till around level 6 by level 9 its scaring crap out of me lol. Cheers Mardy
@@bradleyemmerson3728 I bought the 48V 1000W motor with the 17Ah battery in the rack over the rear tire. I got it not long after I posted my comment. I put it on an old 10 speed MB my neighbor gave me years ago. I was really happy with it. I've been riding it most of the summer on our local bike trail with a friend. My buddy has an Aventon Pace 500 and I was outrunning him on it. Then his battery would go dead trying to keep up with me too! 😁 Make sure to plan out everything you might need to buy. I had to make a second order because I needed to get the shift sensor for the kit. I also upgraded my old gear changer so it wouldn't tear up my rear sprockets. Overall I'm really happy with it and I would do it again.
@@chipwright6193 = HELL.oo from South FRANCE ! 😎 I just got and mount the same 1000W. 48V. BBS.HD on an OLD Alloy Frame MTB* ... PLEASE , did you Modify your Settings ? "WATT" is the Max. Amp. Limit on the 1000W. Controller ...Without BURNING it ? * i have to buy a BIG Front ChainWheel = Alloy 58T. instead of the Original 44T. of the Bike , and the 46T. Delivered with the BAFANG Kit ... THANKS to @Stevenc22 for this CLEAR Tuto. ...even for a "French Aboriginal" 🦍🥖😈🍷😎 !
@@wulfsteppen6989 I don't know what the max amp setting is on mine. I left all of the settings where they were. I entered the information like tire size so that my speedometer would be accurate, but that's about all. There are 9 speed settings on it and I left those alone. I like to use 3, 4, and 5. We have a bike trail that used to be an old railroad track that is 58km round trip. I can ride that on setting 5 and it will use about 60% of my battery.
Brilliant video, I'm eagerly awaiting my first mid drive kit & getting all the info needed before it arrives I've already received the programming cable, this is crucial info imo thanks 👍
Warning-something in these settings can eliminate your pedal assist! I have made several setting changes without finding the culprit? Does anyone else have this problem? My throttle still works fine but I now have to substitute the throttle for my PAS which is not fun!
Wow, not cool! Please post if you find out, I'm in the middle of converting my bike so I haven't even messed with it yet. Was there a way to save default settings before doing anything?
In the Google Play Store, I get a message that this app isn't available for your device because it was made for an older version of Android. Any suggestions?
I've downloaded this app and watched your video again and again while going through the app all I'm writing for is my cables anyway Steve have a good day brother 😀
Just a head's up for everyone. First thing to note (this will help many that have inquired about other models in the comments) apparently this app is just for BBS series of Bafang motors. In the notes it says, "Warning: the newest 2022+ Bafang mid drive uses a triangle connector not compatible with the programming cable." It can get confusing because I have an early M600 Bafang that is UART (not CANBUS) and it also has the triangle 5 pin green connector. So the take away on this is, if you have a triangle 5 pin connector, it is not necessarily a CANBUS, if it is an older motor (and perhaps not a BBS model), it might be also UART. According to a YT video called, "Difference for Bafang M620 UART and CANbus motor", in order to know what protocol your Bafang motor is, you may need to look at the connectors right at the motor harness and not your display like they do in that video. Apparently they used an 8 pin female for UART, and an 8 pin male for CANBUS, at least that's what they did for the 620 models, so it may be true for other models as well.
Great video this is but I'm a little confused. I'm planning on fitting a mid drive this weekend, got everything needed. I have tested the controller (500c) and it's working with the battery, I just connected together what could on the worktop to get an idea of how it all fits. I noticed the controller only has 5 assist levels but this app has 9. How does this work? Should I just average it all out over 5 levels or go ahead and program all 9? It sounds like your riding style is similar to mine so I would like to try to replicate it.
I've been playing with my settings and somehow my pedal assist has totally disappeared, does anyone have any tips on how to restore it? Or restore the original settings on a Bafang BBS01 36v 250w mid hub motor?
Graet, thanks for the Video. I searched very long for an App to configure my Bafang BBS02 /50 watt motor. Until now I used my PC for the configuration, but on travel I don't want to carry my Laptop. Greetings from Verona, Roland
Perfect this eases life a lot! Works with an M400 Motor as well, but does not allow to change the torque settings. Is it planned to integrate torque settings as well?
Well this is something new. Not only can you program with your phone , you can also use it as a display! Water got into my display and I guess i no longer have to get a replacement display .
@A8W Phones nowadays are more water resistant then you think. I've had 2 displays damaged due to water ingest whereas my phone which is ALWAYS on my handlebar is still working fine.
Is that the 750 watt settings your in after you connect motor,status,model, manufacturer, hardware, firmware info, if so could you also give year of purchase so I could order that version controller
Hi, great tutorial, but still have a question.....my throttle is to jumpy, it will make me wheely the bike if I'm not careful when starting off, what setting should I use to make the throttle more like an accelerator in a car. Thanks Biktrix Stunner X Bafang 750 mid drive
Hi mate, i was use your video for programming my bb02b. But have another question, i looking at one 250w hub kit , and the controller have the same cable types. Do you think i will be able to connect with this controller???
Many thanks! A question. where is the option to alter the walking assist mode when you press the minus? Also, the link for the cables you put in, is that also usable for the bafang m400? When I google for a program cable for the m400, it shows a different, much more expensive one. Thank you!
There is a round connector and a triangle connector. If you have the round connector that works with my cable. If you have the triangle connector, that is the newer style which is much more expensive to program.
Hi Steven... I Cant go in my iGo 3.1 Factory setting.. to unlock..and I can't not see the speed magnet on the wheels.. I need your help to unlock it.. please I'm new to ebike.. please help
Hi and thanks for your video. One question, is it possible to connect the bafang bbs02 with the mobile through the USB port of the display?. I have the p850c display and this have an USB port. Thanks a lot.
I have an Engwe P275PRO and planning to do a long trip......Europe and North Africa. There may be times when i need a burst of real speed. Can this app remove the speed limiter on the Bike? it uses a Bafang TFT DP C244 controller?
I'm having an issue with this app it says that this app was made for an older version of Android. Is their an updated version of this app? I hope or is their an that is equivalent to this app? Was really looking forward to using this for my BBSHD.
I picked up off of Amazon the cable I thought I could use for the programing my mid drive BF and found out the newer Bafang motors changed the plug in on the cord from the LCD to the motor had changed; so you can not reprogram the new Bafang motors. Will there be a newer cable in the future for us owners of the new motors to be able to reprogram our motors?
Say, i have a fat bike rear 26.4 hub motor that isn't a bafang model that's equipped with the SW900 LCD; my question is this: can i program my hub motor with that programmer you have???
How do you connect the two female ends of the cable ,one from the phone and the cable connected to the bike? The App. Is great ; but I have the above mentioned problem. Thanks in advance for any information.
@@hariwhitportal5387 it will work with the older ultra that uses the round green connector. Where do you see the error? On the phone? Does your phone support OTG? Try connecting to a Windows laptop and running the Bafang software on the laptop. See my other video.
Steven, I have a 48 volt BBS02B & can connect through the Green LCD Display cable & get the OTG program cable to light up but when I try to connect the phone to my motor I get a "Device not found" message. Is it possible that Bafang has made a change to prevent connecting to their firmware or do I need an up to date Android phone? Thank you.
On previous installs with the BBS01 my biggest complaint with those motors was the delay for the motor to stop after you stopped pedaling. Does this also occur on the newer BBS02's & also when using a throttle? This was most annoying for shifting or quick stops & I am hoping changing the stop delay will solve this. Thank you.
If it uses the round connector to the screen, it can probably be reprogrammed. If it uses the newer triangle connector for the screen, it cannot be reprogrammed.
Hi Steven; looked on Play store says App unavailable . Ive got an S22 so no concerns there with it being too old. Also where can I find info on the Bafang M620 motor programming and cables?
Hello Steve I hope you are well a quick question I've just ordered the eggridder v2 display could I program both my mid-drive bikes with the eggridder but only use the eggridder on one of my bikes and use the old display on the other and will my settings keep on the other bike once I've removed the eggridder 😊🙏
I have no played with eggrider my self, but I want to say yes. Once the settings are saved to the controller, the settings should stay regardless of what screen is plugged in.
If you have a front hub Bafang motor will this software work when it is supplied with the very basic c 951 controller? I want to make the cadence or torque sensor respond to pedal movement faster. At the moment it is nearly two full revolutions of a pedal for the PAS to cut in?
The c951 is just the display. The controller is the box of electronics in the frame. The problem is many bikes use a bafang motor but not a bafang controller and you need a bafang controller to program anything.
@@stevenc22 ah thanks so I must find and pull the controller and see what make it is and the specs I suppose and start from there, thanks for the help.
I don't know that bike brand. Does it use a bafang motor? And if it does, does the display use a round green connector? If yes to both questions, then it is probably reprogrammable.
@@stevenc22 Ok 👍 i will try it when i go home. Thank you. I have another ask! I set up the current to 25A , but can i realy get the benefit from that power from the motor, if my battery is 48v 17.5Ah.(840w) Or the battery is too weak ? I didn't feel any difference 😕 last time when i ride it. The max speed is still 44mph (not loaded). What about this options in PEDAL section, Keep Current %. Can i increase that to 100%??
@@ivanpetrov2280 Your battery should be capable of 25amps if the battery cells and BMS are high quality. The Keep Current% is how much current you want the bike to provide when you hit top speed and are pedaling. Once you hit top speed the motor backs off the power just to maintain the top speed. You can increase it to 100% in theory. Please note you are pushing your motor very hard and could blow it up if you arent careful!
Terrific info, thank you, thank you. I think my brain is too full(info overload), now I’m wondering which battery to get for the 750W kit.? I live in a hilly area of West Virginia.
Then why are all the builders putting 52v on their 48v bafang mid drives? And sellers selling 52v batteries with their kits? P.S. I just installed a 52v battery on my 750w. Now I'm going to program it to cap the amps to around 20 and theoretically get way more distance between charging than a 48v with the same Ah.
@@whatsit2ya247 A 14s battery has a max voltage of 58v and a median voltage of 50.4 or 51.8v depending on whether you use the 3.6v or 3.7v standard. Basically a "52v" battery is a 48v standard just because the batteries have such a wide range of voltage full or empty. Empty it will get down to 40v which is too low to power a 48v battery.
Thank you for your video. I have few questions to you and anybody else. I have bafang 750 bbs02b and battery 48v 17.5ah. What actually do? Increasing of the watts motor, in your case you rise the A up to 20 ( this is like 830w approximately) what actually will hapen? Make more power for acceleration? Or Increasing the top speed? Or both?? Thank you.
hey idk if you could shed some light on whats going on with my situation at all, but i bought a otg cable and the other one to connect to my magnum scout that runs a bufang motor. i try plugging my phone into the bike and it tells me that it cant connect to the motor and idk whats wrong. ive noticed that the cable i bought to connect to the bike isnt see through, like alot of other vids ive seen. idk if this has something to do it with it. hope you can help!
Hello, I have a question about m400. I have display DPC 18 4.2 U (UART) - blocked version. Can i change my motor settings in program speeed (Google play app). Some people tell me that the settings can only be changed in BBS01, BBS02 etc. motors. But in the other hand some guys say that I can change the settings with this program on all engines with UART communication. Now I don't know if I should risk it, could my controller get bricked?
because it only detects pedal movement, there's no bbs02 for back pedal brakes (if thats what you want), you need a lever brake bike my TSDZ2 doesn't do that because it has a torque sensor and you can't put enough torque backpedaling to activate the motor you cannot fix it on the normal cadence PAS BBSHD, BBS02 etc.
brother i need help, this should work on bafang rear hub motors.( RM G063.1000.D.) i hook up to green 5pin display cable to p860c and WONT turn ON. battery full charged. i plug into stock display works hook up to p860c. and nothing. so i am stumped why wont work. and do you know a programable display for my bike .thx ANY is greatly APPRECICATED
Is your controller a bafang controller? Just because your motor is bafang, doesn't mean your controller is bafang. The big box that all the wires run to, that is the controller.
@@stevenc22 no i now, but unsrewed controler(behind saetpost at boottom of frame) but i open up and i never seen before ill my other ebikes eay to work on. but this all incast in some type of caulking,epoxy rubber or something no clue. thx again for help. this bike is one thing after other to mod. thx again if you can help.
@@au1947 Unfortunately i dont know much about the Bewo 250W mid drive. it is a different company than Bafang. I searched for a manual for your motor to find the error code and could not find a list of error codes. I found a manual for a display that says E002 is a communications error. Is everything plugged up correctly? Sounds like bad wiring or connections.
Very good video 👍. I've got also the programming cable but it doesn't show the red light after i plug in and switch the battery on. I've got a BBS01 Motor.
Does programming with this method void any sort of warranty? Can bafang tell that the programming has been done if for instance, I needed to send a motor back to them? (Bosch have a program that can tell you if a motor has been tampered with) Does this programming reduce the lifespan of your motor at all? Does your battery drain quicker (even if it's a green cell battery) after doing this programming? Can you totally disable a throttle with this? Can you raise the limit before pedal assist turns off?
Yes this probably voids the warranty. The motor will be fine, it's the controller that can overheat and blow out if you program too much amps. You can disable throttle.
I have the same Problem, I have the Red LED on the cable Connecticut, I have the USB icon, but the App Response, no device found. WhatsApp could be the Problem?
isn't the "throttle" simply a rheostat... the harder you press/turn, the slower/faster it takes off? So in Throttle setting 8 @ 80%, wouldn't it take off slow if you only press lightly or fast if you jump to full throttle..? My bike throttle is scary.. last time i tried getting rolling by throttle alone, i pulled a wheelie..nearly dumped the bike.. Suggestions on settings to have full range but also e able to start off slow and gradual..?
I Need Some Help Everyone Here Is Happy But Not Me🙄 I Got Both Cables But When I Push Connect It Shows The Speeed App Asking For Permission To Allow Speeed To Acces Usb Serial .If I Hit Cancel It Shows A Msg That Permission Is Deny If I Hit Yess It Shows Error On Status And One In Red Can't Stablish Connection WIth Motor... Any Help ??? Thank's 🙏
First at all many thx for your video. My question is: on my fat bike is the BF HR500 rear motor mounted, the display is 850c full Color, I don’t know which controller is mounted, I hope ever from BF, you think I can use this app to programming? Thx in advance.
Today i found out the Brand of the Controller, LSDZS LSW1440, you ThinK CAN work the Same? When you change the Parameters this make change on the Motor or affect the Controller? Thx again.
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Hi @Stevenc22 I am the author of this application, thank you for showing this. Cheers!
Wow awesome app. Thanks for making it and not cramming it full of ad's.
Is there a apple version?
Not that I'm aware
Any update so I can connect to my Avaris and change settings?
My thanks to both of you, much appreciated. Question: I have a new build BBSHD/BBSO3 with a 52 volt battery and the DCP 18 (UART) display programmed with the ECO/SPORT settings. PASS’s levels are listed as 5 in both ECO & SPORT when connected to SPEEED 9 levels are visible. Do you know which levels are assign to ECO or SPORT?
I have seen some that suggest this set up only uses odd levels 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 but no mention of which mode uses them. Any assistance would be helpful.
Many thanks for this well put together video. My old Apollo bike was very erratic and jerky after my Bafang conversion, after watching your video video I bought the cable and set the parameters exactly as you have set yours, my bike is now running really well, couldn't believe it would be so easy . Also a big big thank you to SPEEED!
Could you share the cable and programs that you buy...
I would like to try it, but I dont know where to get that cable and programs.
Bought the cable hoping to find someone with a pc to gelp me out.watched this video part way through went to the local electronics store downloaded the app at the counter as i was buying the otg cable rushed home, finished the video made 2 changes pressed the write option . And bamo worked like a charm .lowered my pas cutoff from 200ms to 100ms and changed my throttle response all other settings seemed fine .all from my android phone. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for this video. I hadn't been aware of the Android App.. very useful.
The Bafang BBS conversion motors are not programmed well, and reprogramming them as you describe makes them much easier to live with.
One comment.. the device on the handlebars that you refer to as the "Controller" is usually called the Display (hence "By Display's Command" as a setting in the program).
The controller is mounted directly on the motor assembly, and its function is to supply power to the motor .
I agree. Idk if this would work with either of my ebikes but it would be nice. I like the way he wants his ebike's assists to be low until the higher levels. My Ancheer tried to throw me off the damn bike back when i first got on it, lol. I had no idea it was going to be automatically set on pedal assist.
I am still looking for a reason why I have lost my PAS but it is looking more and more as if this happened ever since I modified my settings as per your video. I would love to get a definitive explanation from Bafang but as usual, they are providing NO SUPPORT OR HELP???
I got this and it works.. be careful when making adjustments.. I wanted my throttle to be less aggressive.. went to "throttle" > READ... then adjusted then lowered the "start voltage" lower to .5.... This gave me a error code, 04H... (this means throttle high voltage) which didn't make sense.. The motor wouldn't turn with throttle and the PAS stopped..
OH NO....! I went back and read the help icon... it said it must be at the least 1.10 start voltage to operate or the motor shuts down as not to damage the motor because the current is too low.
My recommendation.. only reset one of the parameter at a time.. otherwise, it is almost impossible to figure out the change you made that caused the bike to shut down.. I read somewhere, if you get a error code 04H... disconnect the throttle cable, and if the error code goes away.. replace the throttle.... NOT THE CASE.. you just need to reset the Start Voltage setting to min 1.10... And do not set over 4.40 top throttle voltage or you can burn out the motor...
This is a big LEARNING EXPERIENCE... But the app an the adapter cable work great..! Thanks
Thanks for the heads up!
I haven't messed with mine yet and comments like this aren't giving me confidence, lol!
Good video. As you say this software is extremely solid and a dream to use, used it for 6 months. One suggestion, save the original settings in a file on your android device. (Software let's you do this easily) so you can return to these settings if you find your changes don't suit you.
The changes to the throttle settings are a good use of this software.
I had wondered about being able to save the default settings before messing around with them. So, the speeed app has this capability? Or is it the phone you save through. I'm not clear on this. TIA for any help you can give!
I assume you figured this out by now?
I haven't played with it yet, I'm still a little nervous lol , is there a way to save original settings before I mess with it from the app?, on my phone?
Thanks!
Take pictures of the original settings first, so you can reference them later if you want to.
@@harveyashworth6285 That’s the way I will do it, good tip
I have used it and followed your instructions. Really easy to do. Now, I will check the settings on my bike!
Both your videos on programming the controller are really helpful. Just finished converting my MTB to an ebike with a 750W Bafang & have same controller 500c. Going to follow your settings as at moment in level 2 it straight up to 25 kilometres, 3 is 35 ks then seem very little change in speed till around level 6 by level 9 its scaring crap out of me lol. Cheers Mardy
Thank you for that information Steve I've just ordered my leads so I can reprogram my bafang mid-drive 👍🏾respect Steve
THANKS, looking forward to installing it. I can barely get to 30mph with a 52 tooth front sprocket. Above 26 is really seams to decrease power.
I had the cable so I downloaded the app and it's as easy as described and the built in help file with all the settings is great too and all free!
Thanks. I'm getting excited to buy a Bafang mid drive and try this out.
Have you got it yet?.... What Wattage did you get?...
@@bradleyemmerson3728 I bought the 48V 1000W motor with the 17Ah battery in the rack over the rear tire. I got it not long after I posted my comment. I put it on an old 10 speed MB my neighbor gave me years ago. I was really happy with it. I've been riding it most of the summer on our local bike trail with a friend. My buddy has an Aventon Pace 500 and I was outrunning him on it. Then his battery would go dead trying to keep up with me too! 😁
Make sure to plan out everything you might need to buy. I had to make a second order because I needed to get the shift sensor for the kit. I also upgraded my old gear changer so it wouldn't tear up my rear sprockets. Overall I'm really happy with it and I would do it again.
@@chipwright6193 = HELL.oo from South FRANCE ! 😎
I just got and mount the same 1000W. 48V. BBS.HD on an OLD Alloy Frame MTB* ...
PLEASE , did you Modify your Settings ?
"WATT" is the Max. Amp. Limit on the 1000W. Controller ...Without BURNING it ?
* i have to buy a BIG Front ChainWheel = Alloy 58T. instead of the Original 44T. of the Bike , and the 46T. Delivered with the BAFANG Kit ...
THANKS to @Stevenc22 for this CLEAR Tuto.
...even for a "French Aboriginal" 🦍🥖😈🍷😎 !
@@wulfsteppen6989 I don't know what the max amp setting is on mine. I left all of the settings where they were. I entered the information like tire size so that my speedometer would be accurate, but that's about all. There are 9 speed settings on it and I left those alone. I like to use 3, 4, and 5. We have a bike trail that used to be an old railroad track that is 58km round trip. I can ride that on setting 5 and it will use about 60% of my battery.
Brilliant video, I'm eagerly awaiting my first mid drive kit & getting all the info needed before it arrives I've already received the programming cable, this is crucial info imo thanks 👍
I'm getting an Avaris bike any ideas how to get rid of the restrictor?
Warning-something in these settings can eliminate your pedal assist! I have made several setting changes without finding the culprit? Does anyone else have this problem? My throttle still works fine but I now have to substitute the throttle for my PAS which is not fun!
Wow, not cool! Please post if you find out, I'm in the middle of converting my bike so I haven't even messed with it yet. Was there a way to save default settings before doing anything?
did you ever figure it out? that happend to me. Thanks.
In the Google Play Store, I get a message that this app isn't available for your device because it was made for an older version of Android. Any suggestions?
I can't find this app
Wonderful but what in case of canbus connector and not uart (round) you are presenting. ?
I don't think the new style connector can be programmed
I've downloaded this app and watched your video again and again while going through the app all I'm writing for is my cables anyway Steve have a good day brother 😀
I'm wondering if this Android app supports both the CANBUS and the UART versions of the Bafang motors?
No. It only supports the older standard with the round connector. The newer standard with the triangle connector is NOT supported
Thanks for posting this video 👍🏼 Super cool now I can use something as small as my cellphone to program my BBSHD other than my laptop.
Just a head's up for everyone. First thing to note (this will help many that have inquired about other models in the comments) apparently this app is just for BBS series of Bafang motors. In the notes it says, "Warning: the newest 2022+ Bafang mid drive uses a triangle connector not compatible with the programming cable." It can get confusing because I have an early M600 Bafang that is UART (not CANBUS) and it also has the triangle 5 pin green connector. So the take away on this is, if you have a triangle 5 pin connector, it is not necessarily a CANBUS, if it is an older motor (and perhaps not a BBS model), it might be also UART. According to a YT video called, "Difference for Bafang M620 UART and CANbus motor", in order to know what protocol your Bafang motor is, you may need to look at the connectors right at the motor harness and not your display like they do in that video. Apparently they used an 8 pin female for UART, and an 8 pin male for CANBUS, at least that's what they did for the 620 models, so it may be true for other models as well.
Great video this is but I'm a little confused. I'm planning on fitting a mid drive this weekend, got everything needed. I have tested the controller (500c) and it's working with the battery, I just connected together what could on the worktop to get an idea of how it all fits.
I noticed the controller only has 5 assist levels but this app has 9. How does this work? Should I just average it all out over 5 levels or go ahead and program all 9? It sounds like your riding style is similar to mine so I would like to try to replicate it.
You can change the 5 to 9 in the secret menu. But even if you keep the 5, in the software 1,3,5,7,9 correspond to the 5 levels
Awesome Bafang reprograming tutorial! Thanks!!!
I've been playing with my settings and somehow my pedal assist has totally disappeared, does anyone have any tips on how to restore it? Or restore the original settings on a Bafang BBS01 36v 250w mid hub motor?
Same thing happened today me. Were you able to get PAS back?
does it work to plug a USB dongle ang connecto to the phone?
Yes. You use the Bafang cable can plug it into the otg adapter into phone.
Just ran across this video, you explained this process very well not confusing at all, good job Thanks.
Thanks
Hi. Do you know if this will work with a Bafang 250w rear hub?
Depends. Just because your wheel is bafang doesn't mean the controller is bafang. If your controller is not bafang, it won't work.
Does this programing apply to the latest Bafang G510 Ultra mid motor with an arrow shaped 5 pin connector (not round connector)?
Not yet
@@natblud7806allora non funziona con m500 attacco CAN?
Graet, thanks for the Video. I searched very long for an App to configure my Bafang BBS02 /50 watt motor. Until now I used my PC for the configuration, but on travel I don't want to carry my Laptop. Greetings from Verona, Roland
Perfect this eases life a lot! Works with an M400 Motor as well, but does not allow to change the torque settings. Is it planned to integrate torque settings as well?
Sorry Mark, don't know what the developer plans to support.
What speed do you get at 5% and 10% and does it feel like a regular bike pedalling with some effort?
My level 1 and 2 definitely need some manual effort. They only provide 25w and 50w of power which is nothing really.
Well this is something new. Not only can you program with your phone , you can also use it as a display! Water got into my display and I guess i no longer have to get a replacement display .
@A8W Phones nowadays are more water resistant then you think. I've had 2 displays damaged due to water ingest whereas my phone which is ALWAYS on my handlebar is still working fine.
Is that the 750 watt settings your in after you connect motor,status,model, manufacturer, hardware, firmware info, if so could you also give year of purchase so I could order that version controller
I'm still waiting for my damn cable, just installed bafang tonight and already I can tell the stock PAS is super lame without even riding it!
Where do you get them programming cable
Hi, great tutorial, but still have a question.....my throttle is to jumpy, it will make me wheely the bike if I'm not careful when starting off, what setting should I use to make the throttle more like an accelerator in a car.
Thanks Biktrix Stunner X Bafang 750 mid drive
Yes there is a setting. Let me check for you.
Okay check your settings for start current and slow start mode. Use 10% for current and 4 for slow start mode.
Great app, and this guy does very well explaining the process. 😀
One of the best on RUclips
I have the eggrider display for my BBSHD, it enables some programming via USB, any advantage to doing it the way you've done it here via the cable?
I don't know what options are available on the eggrider. If it had some good options I'm sure it will be fine
Where do you change speed limit? From 25 km/h to 32 or whatsoever? Many thanks
speed limit in the lcd can put the limit you wont
Hi mate, i was use your video for programming my bb02b. But have another question, i looking at one 250w hub kit , and the controller have the same cable types. Do you think i will be able to connect with this controller???
I think if it has the exact same round green plug it will probably work.
Many thanks! A question. where is the option to alter the walking assist mode when you press the minus? Also, the link for the cables you put in, is that also usable for the bafang m400? When I google for a program cable for the m400, it shows a different, much more expensive one. Thank you!
There is a round connector and a triangle connector. If you have the round connector that works with my cable. If you have the triangle connector, that is the newer style which is much more expensive to program.
Hi Steven... I Cant go in my iGo 3.1 Factory setting.. to unlock..and I can't not see the speed magnet on the wheels.. I need your help to unlock it.. please I'm new to ebike.. please help
Hi and thanks for your video. One question, is it possible to connect the bafang bbs02 with the mobile through the USB port of the display?. I have the p850c display and this have an USB port. Thanks a lot.
That is a USB charging port only.
I have an Engwe P275PRO and planning to do a long trip......Europe and North Africa. There may be times when i need a burst of real speed. Can this app remove the speed limiter on the Bike? it uses a Bafang TFT DP C244 controller?
I'm having an issue with this app it says that this app was made for an older version of Android. Is their an updated version of this app? I hope or is their an that is equivalent to this app? Was really looking forward to using this for my BBSHD.
There isn't a newer version but you can side load it and it runs just fine
I have an e-bike Kugo Kukirin V1 Pro- is it also possible to connect and hack with the phone?
I picked up off of Amazon the cable I thought I could use for the programing my mid drive BF and found out the newer Bafang motors changed the plug in on the cord from the LCD to the motor had changed; so you can not reprogram the new Bafang motors. Will there be a newer cable in the future for us owners of the new motors to be able to reprogram our motors?
The new motor actually uses a different programming language, so I'm not sure.
which model you using?
@@Ezio470 G510 1000 watt
Say, i have a fat bike rear 26.4 hub motor that isn't a bafang model that's equipped with the SW900 LCD; my question is this: can i program my hub motor with that programmer you have???
No. You need a bufang motor and a bufang controller
Where can I get the PC software to configure the motor? Also, where can you get the new programming cable for motors after 2022? Thanks for your video
My other video I show how to program with a laptop. The newer motors are not programmable as far as I know.
Any chance this could be upgraded to later versions of android?
How do you connect the two female ends of the cable ,one from the phone and the cable connected to the bike? The App. Is great ; but I have the above mentioned problem. Thanks in advance for any information.
The cable has a USB on one end and the controller connection on the other end.
Thank You
Will this work on the ultra? I hooked up the cables and I get and error in red.
@@hariwhitportal5387 it will work with the older ultra that uses the round green connector. Where do you see the error? On the phone? Does your phone support OTG? Try connecting to a Windows laptop and running the Bafang software on the laptop. See my other video.
@@stevenc22 it appears on the android phone.
Can i plug that cable into a rear drive bafang
This doesn't void warranty or anything does it? Because, this seems fantastic to be able to adjust...
As long as you don't over amp it you should be fine. Bafang provides the tool them selves. This is officially supported.
Hi i replaced my bafang m400 drive with a 2nd hand drive.everything ok but it keeps reading the total mileage of the old engine.do you know why?thx
Steven, I have a 48 volt BBS02B & can connect through the Green LCD Display cable & get the OTG program cable to light up but when I try to connect the phone to my motor I get a "Device not found" message. Is it possible that Bafang has made a change to prevent connecting to their firmware or do I need an up to date Android phone? Thank you.
On previous installs with the BBS01 my biggest complaint with those motors was the delay for the motor to stop after you stopped pedaling. Does this also occur on the newer BBS02's & also when using a throttle? This was most annoying for shifting or quick stops & I am hoping changing the stop delay will solve this. Thank you.
I have not noticed any delay in the motor after I stop pedaling
@@stevenc22 Thanks
How about the Bafang OEM middrives,the ones that require a special bike frame, not the BBS which van be retrofitted. Can they be tuned as well?
If it uses the round connector to the screen, it can probably be reprogrammed. If it uses the newer triangle connector for the screen, it cannot be reprogrammed.
@@stevenc22 I don't know yet. It's my friend's new ebike with "Motinova" motor, which is probably just a rebranded Chinese motor.
Hi friend do I need the battery on to edit my settings 🤔
Yes.
Hi,
Do you think this application works on the rear hub motor of an ebike also?
Thank you
It might work if your controller is Bafang.
can this be used on a rear hub bafang 500. Thanks If not could you show a way to program it
Probably not. Most rear drive bafang wheels don't use bafang controllers.
@@stevenc22 Thank you Steven for responding. Its good you know stuff like this. I enjoyed your videos. Again thanks again
Hi Steven; looked on Play store says App unavailable . Ive got an S22 so no concerns there with it being too old. Also where can I find info on the Bafang M620 motor programming and cables?
You can install it by side loading the app in Android or use the windows version on a laptop
Hello Steve I hope you are well a quick question I've just ordered the eggridder v2 display could I program both my mid-drive bikes with the eggridder but only use the eggridder on one of my bikes and use the old display on the other and will my settings keep on the other bike once I've removed the eggridder 😊🙏
I have no played with eggrider my self, but I want to say yes. Once the settings are saved to the controller, the settings should stay regardless of what screen is plugged in.
@@stevenc22 thsts whst I thought and thank you for you help Steve have a good day and stay safe, my friend 😊
@@ashpunting are you happy with the Eggrider? I’m wanting to order for my Radrunner. Where did you order from?
If you have a front hub Bafang motor will this software work when it is supplied with the very basic c 951 controller? I want to make the cadence or torque sensor respond to pedal movement faster. At the moment it is nearly two full revolutions of a pedal for the PAS to cut in?
The c951 is just the display. The controller is the box of electronics in the frame. The problem is many bikes use a bafang motor but not a bafang controller and you need a bafang controller to program anything.
@@stevenc22 ah thanks so I must find and pull the controller and see what make it is and the specs I suppose and start from there, thanks for the help.
Is it possible to reprogram an Crescent Elton bike with this app? New to this, trying to get a grip of how it works! Thx!
I don't know that bike brand. Does it use a bafang motor? And if it does, does the display use a round green connector? If yes to both questions, then it is probably reprogrammable.
Hi mate, i change some settings. Can i change the number off assist, currently i have 9 level, can i make to 3 or 5 assist modes??
Yes. Easily.
@@stevenc22 Can you share, which section and where is that setting. I using the phone and the app, just to let you know.
@@ivanpetrov2280 "Designated Assist Level" on the Pedal tab.
@@stevenc22 Ok 👍 i will try it when i go home. Thank you.
I have another ask! I set up the current to 25A , but can i realy get the benefit from that power from the motor, if my battery is 48v 17.5Ah.(840w) Or the battery is too weak ?
I didn't feel any difference 😕 last time when i ride it. The max speed is still 44mph (not loaded). What about this options in PEDAL section, Keep Current %. Can i increase that to 100%??
@@ivanpetrov2280 Your battery should be capable of 25amps if the battery cells and BMS are high quality. The Keep Current% is how much current you want the bike to provide when you hit top speed and are pedaling. Once you hit top speed the motor backs off the power just to maintain the top speed. You can increase it to 100% in theory. Please note you are pushing your motor very hard and could blow it up if you arent careful!
Want to configure as use a 1 to 5 system not the 1 to 9 only gives me 1 to 9 options shall i just configure first 5 ?
No. You use the bikes display to pick 1-5 mode, not the software.
Some models of the Dpc18 has only 5 PAS , how do you conf with this app?
@@TdMega Easy. When you have 5 speeds, you use 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9. Its explained in the detailed instructions i linked to.
I have a bafang Rear hub motor is there anything like this for my bike.?????
Is this app not available on Apple devices I can’t find the app in the app store
No but there is a windows version if you have a windows laptop
Terrific info, thank you, thank you. I think my brain is too full(info overload), now I’m wondering which battery to get for the 750W kit.? I live in a hilly area of West Virginia.
So a 750w kit is probably a 48v system. So you need a 48v battery probably 12kw+ in size
Then why are all the builders putting 52v on their 48v bafang mid drives? And sellers selling 52v batteries with their kits?
P.S. I just installed a 52v battery on my 750w. Now I'm going to program it to cap the amps to around 20 and theoretically get way more distance between charging than a 48v with the same Ah.
@@whatsit2ya247 A 14s battery has a max voltage of 58v and a median voltage of 50.4 or 51.8v depending on whether you use the 3.6v or 3.7v standard. Basically a "52v" battery is a 48v standard just because the batteries have such a wide range of voltage full or empty. Empty it will get down to 40v which is too low to power a 48v battery.
@@stevenc22 I'm not quite getting it, so all the people that are using 52v batteries with their bafang motors aren't actually working?
When I take off, there’s a little to much power, how would I make that a slower take off?? Thanks
I am getting an avaris bike restricted to uk law, any suggestions how to un restrict the bike? Thanks
Thank you for your video. I have few questions to you and anybody else.
I have bafang 750 bbs02b and battery 48v 17.5ah.
What actually do? Increasing of the watts motor, in your case you rise the A up to 20 ( this is like 830w approximately) what actually will hapen? Make more power for acceleration? Or Increasing the top speed? Or both??
Thank you.
Both. Increased amps improves acceleration and top speed
@@stevenc22 that sound good 😀 i already order the programing cable .
It s 960W
If I have the 250W version limited to 25km/h, can I unbridle it to go beyond that?
Can't find the app.
where do u get the cable to connect to the ebike motor
Amazon. www.amazon.com/dp/B0998YF4JB/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_apa_gl_i_K5DBMDZYQA1V47YFC7KB?linkCode=ml2&tag=stevenc22-20
Possibile anche con bafang m500????
hey idk if you could shed some light on whats going on with my situation at all, but i bought a otg cable and the other one to connect to my magnum scout that runs a bufang motor. i try plugging my phone into the bike and it tells me that it cant connect to the motor and idk whats wrong.
ive noticed that the cable i bought to connect to the bike isnt see through, like alot of other vids ive seen. idk if this has something to do it with it.
hope you can help!
Hello, I have a question about m400. I have display DPC 18 4.2 U (UART) - blocked version. Can i change my motor settings in program speeed (Google play app). Some people tell me that the settings can only be changed in BBS01, BBS02 etc. motors. But in the other hand some guys say that I can change the settings with this program on all engines with UART communication. Now I don't know if I should risk it, could my controller get bricked?
No. If your screen uses the triangle connector, (which I think you have) it is not compatible with Speeed.
@@stevenc22 I have 5 pin connector like you
@@Ezo000 then it should work. As far as I know speed works with every round pin connector Bafang
@@stevenc22 Thank you for your answer :)
@@stevenc22 It works!!! TY VERY MUCH :D
I can t find green plug is it the one from display?
Yes from display about 8 inches from display
Hey, any idea why the motor starts forward when I pedal backwards?
Kinda anoying (BBS02)
because it only detects pedal movement, there's no bbs02 for back pedal brakes (if thats what you want), you need a lever brake bike
my TSDZ2 doesn't do that because it has a torque sensor and you can't put enough torque backpedaling to activate the motor
you cannot fix it on the normal cadence PAS BBSHD, BBS02 etc.
brother i need help, this should work on bafang rear hub motors.( RM G063.1000.D.) i hook up to green 5pin display cable to p860c and WONT turn ON. battery full charged. i plug into stock display works hook up to p860c. and nothing. so i am stumped why wont work. and do you know a programable display for my bike .thx ANY is greatly APPRECICATED
Is your controller a bafang controller? Just because your motor is bafang, doesn't mean your controller is bafang. The big box that all the wires run to, that is the controller.
@@stevenc22 no i now, but unsrewed controler(behind saetpost at boottom of frame) but i open up and i never seen before ill my other ebikes eay to work on. but this all incast in some type of caulking,epoxy rubber or something no clue. thx again for help. this bike is one thing after other to mod. thx again if you can help.
Do you need to flash the firmware on a computer before being able to use the speeed app?
No. If you use the App you don't need the laptop at all
The Dpc181 seems to have bluetooth. Will the app work with the Dpc181 via bluetooth?
Is it compatible with iPhone 6
Can this use with other than bafang? Like KT
I have the IGO Outlander , would this program work for this type of bike?
Probably not. That bike has a bafang motor but a custom IGO controller and it's the controller we are reprogramming.
nice video explanation, Thanks and can you tell me my bike display showing E002, what is the reason for that?
When does it show E002? Can you take a picture?
@@stevenc22 hi, thank you, when I switch on after few seconds, its showing error and its mid drive bewa 250w motor, how to send picture to you?
@@au1947 Unfortunately i dont know much about the Bewo 250W mid drive. it is a different company than Bafang. I searched for a manual for your motor to find the error code and could not find a list of error codes.
I found a manual for a display that says E002 is a communications error. Is everything plugged up correctly? Sounds like bad wiring or connections.
Very good video 👍. I've got also the programming cable but it doesn't show the red light after i plug in and switch the battery on. I've got a BBS01 Motor.
That is weird. Makes me wonder if the cable is bad.
@@stevenc22 I guess also. I will fetch another one...
Will this app work on a Bafang Hub Motor???? I have a RadRover 5.
Does programming with this method void any sort of warranty?
Can bafang tell that the programming has been done if for instance, I needed to send a motor back to them? (Bosch have a program that can tell you if a motor has been tampered with)
Does this programming reduce the lifespan of your motor at all?
Does your battery drain quicker (even if it's a green cell battery) after doing this programming?
Can you totally disable a throttle with this?
Can you raise the limit before pedal assist turns off?
Yes this probably voids the warranty. The motor will be fine, it's the controller that can overheat and blow out if you program too much amps. You can disable throttle.
@@stevenc22 How can you tell what amount of amps is suitable for your motor/controller?
The 750w and 1000w controllers are maxed to 25amps.
@@stevenc22 Mine is a 250w BBS01 motor with the c961 display
Seeing as it voids the warranty, I'm alittle weary of using it then
Thanks for the Video. I get "No device found" on my samsung s8+. Red light is on, on the cable. Do I have to enable the OTG connector somehow?
You should get a USB icon in the top to bar of the Samsung
I have the same Problem, I have the Red LED on the cable Connecticut, I have the USB icon, but the App Response, no device found.
WhatsApp could be the Problem?
Thanks i didnt know this app existed now i can program my bafang easy.
My motor isn't a mid drive so I'm not sure if this will work on bafang displays.
Can you re-program a hub motor ebike too?
Probably not. Even if it has a bafang motor, the controller is probably not bafang.
@@stevenc22 is there a solution you recommend? I'd love to setup stuff better
Issit the same for display that only has 5 level of PAS ,but it has eco and sports mode
Yes. If you only have 5 levels, you program levels 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 to match the 5 levels on the display
@@stevenc22 omg,thanks for your reply,I follow setup from Luna cycle and I end up with no pedal assist
@@stevenc22 so do I set the value for 2,4,6,8 to 0?
No probably just set 1 and 2 the same, then 3 and 4 the same ect.
Does it work with rear hub motor to?
One viewer said yes, they got it to work with a rear hub motor. But 99% of the time it will only work with Mid drive motors.
isn't the "throttle" simply a rheostat... the harder you press/turn, the slower/faster it takes off? So in Throttle setting 8 @ 80%, wouldn't it take off slow if you only press lightly or fast if you jump to full throttle..? My bike throttle is scary.. last time i tried getting rolling by throttle alone, i pulled a wheelie..nearly dumped the bike.. Suggestions on settings to have full range but also e able to start off slow and gradual..?
I Need Some Help
Everyone Here Is Happy
But Not Me🙄
I Got Both Cables
But When I Push
Connect It Shows The Speeed App Asking
For Permission To Allow
Speeed To Acces Usb
Serial .If I Hit Cancel
It Shows A Msg That
Permission Is Deny
If I Hit Yess It Shows Error On Status
And One In Red
Can't Stablish Connection WIth Motor...
Any Help ???
Thank's 🙏
Obviously you need to give the app permission to connect. Is the cable red led on before you plug into the phone? Does your phone support OSG?
@@stevenc22 Obviously🤣
But i Mentioned
Everyting Before Anyone
Ask Me..
My Phone Is A Samsung
S22 Ultra Don't Know
About Your Q Below
@@stevenc22 Yes Red Led Is On Before C
Do you have a tutorial on how to update newest firmware on DPC-18 display using my android phone or a windows computer?
Sorry I don't.
First at all many thx for your video. My question is: on my fat bike is the BF HR500 rear motor mounted, the display is 850c full Color, I don’t know which controller is mounted, I hope ever from BF, you think I can use this app to programming? Thx in advance.
Since we don't know which controller you have, we cannot be sure. However for $10 its probably worth buying the cable and trying it out!
Today i found out the Brand of the Controller, LSDZS LSW1440, you ThinK CAN work the Same? When you change the Parameters this make change on the Motor or affect the Controller? Thx again.
@@rec105mediagroup7 that is not a Bafang controller. It is probably not programmable!