I love the colorways we’ve seen for this shoe. So glad Hoka made a good carbon plated shoe finally!! I’m going to try it out for a half marathon this summer.
Kofuzi's point about the shoe not being something he'd wear for a marathon is valid, for him. For me, I've done marathons in traditional racing flats and it worked out fine, so this shoe should work for me. I appreciate Mike giving such an honest review.
Thanks for the review. This is exactly how I felt about the RocketX. Nice shoe for some speed sessions, but would never want to run a full marathon in it
i do really like the part when you talking about consider and pair with other shoes. it sometime give us idea to build rotation shoes. thanks mate! Goodluck
Just subscribed, just ran a BQ age 53/4 after 10 years of not wanting it enough…..love your content…knowledgeable, walk the talk running buddy chat! I use the Hoka Carbon X as my daily. The carbon plate supports the toe box much better, the foam is spongy/durable - this shoe (for me) was ideal to recover from a high arch/long toe problem i always had with recurrent tendonitis as my mileage went up, always costing me 3-10 days recovery at the wrong time…..recovered on these shoes, never had it since despite going from a 50-55 mile peak to a 76 mile peak and more 20+ milers on my BQ set this year. ALSO - i used to run a 10 EE (wide) Adrenaline….this is a rare carbon plate option that has. A stretchy upper, so worked well form me with chubby feet =often limited choice => Finally a carbon plate option for me with good cushioning. BONUS - while a higher price point, the plate means the shoe lasts 100+ miles longer. DOUBLE BONUS….paired really well with the springy, light Rocket X for my last long run and race!
Hey man, keep it up! I stumbled on this channel, and I feel like it's criminal the @kofuzi is acting like this is an unbiased review. I see that you like his content, so just want to point out to you that they are essentially paying him, and he does not want to ruin his relationship with them, making this review completely null and void. And it irritates me that he does that disclaimer to make it seem like he's unbiased by "putting it all out there", but it's actually misleading, because he should say "I'm paid by Hoka, I won't give them a 100% negative review bc I value my relationship with them." @kofuzi
I am really glad you gave a review of this shoe. I was so disappointed with the Carbon X2 that I went and bought a bunch of the original Carbon X to continue to use in some workouts. I currently use the my Hoka Rocket X for speedier sessions and races that are more twisty(since I feel a little uneasy in the Nike Alphafly). I have REALLY high hopes for this shoe! 🤞
You seemed to have a missed a comparison with every other "super shoe" that has come from out from other brands in the last few years. Not getting me very excited if it might be comparable with a Brooks shoe.
It doesnt matter bro. Top tier runners like you pick nike or adidas, maybe asics and saucony so you wont get excited. But lots of runners on race day still show up in their hokas. I agree with you though.
Bro. I’m a beginner and have 2 pairs of hokas and a Nike all together my shoes came up to $550 and those are only good for 4-5 months before I’ll have to buy more it’s crazy lol. I could run in basketball shoes like back in the day if I had to but running shoes just really help especially since I’m all concrete.
@@DriveandThrive If you're a beginner you really don't need 3 pairs of shoes. There are a few daily trainers that can be your every day shoe for all of your runs (Novablast 3, Rebel V3).
Watch the reviews from multiple reviewers. Don't rush to buying a shoe. Make a list and wait for 30-40% discounts. Almost all of my shoes are like this. I even got some at 50% discount. Saucony, PUMA etc. offer frequent discount codes. For Nike and Adidas you need to watch their website/app frequently on your interested shoes. Some colorways are discounted regularly.
I thought your evaluation of the new Hoka model was excellent, both in terms of details and the feeling of running. Particularly this final comparison with models that you think are similar or complementary was even more special. I have the Adidas SL model, just arrived here in Brazil, and I'm loving training with it.
Oh, i love floppy (soft) heel cups. Can´t wait to get my hands on it, not that i´m running half-marathons on full-marathons but would like to try it during my 10 k run.
By mentioning the brooks and altra shoes , basically you’re subtly saying that the the rocket x2 is still a second tier super shoe , heck i think its a reach to even call it a supershoe .
I guess we all agree it certainly looks nice--beautiful colors! For Brooks naysayers, don’t discount the Hyperion Max. The Hyperion Tempo has been a phenomenal shoe and I think the Max is even better. They are race-worthy at least up to HM for those who don’t get along with carbon plates or super soft high stack max cushion. For me either one has a place in a rotation at the very least, provided you don’t mind experiencing some ground feel (not a bad idea for your biomechanics at least some of the time). The midsoles are on the firmer side of the spectrum at first but really open up and are a load of fun doing speed-work or just faster miles in general. They perform well at any pace and I believe having a very diverse rotation of shoes has kept me uninjured.
It was long overdue for HOKA to switch to PEBA for performance/racing shoes. It is a good updated for Rocket X2. If one is into low drop shoes, this could be a good option. Hopefully they will release Carbon X3 with PEBA foam as well. Ultimately, they will need a training shoe similar to Endorphin Speed with PEBA foam as well.
Interesting! I was buying Hoka shoes for a few years and really enjoyed running in the original Rocket X (enough to have 2 pairs of them) but wouldn’t claim they made the slightest difference to my running even with the plate. Since then I’ve switched back to Adidas (always used to buy Adidas prior to my Hoka spell) and as good as the Rocket X2 looks, I don’t think it’s going to tear me away from my Adios Pro 3 and Prime X Strung duo that I’m liking a lot. Hoka needed to release these 6 months ago
I ran in the Rocket X all last year and it is nowhere near as good as the Adios Pro. I think the review is right on. Good shoe but nowhere near comfortable enough for a marathon compared to all the super shoes in the market
@@andrewstearns9276 Fair, but if this is their direction, that's a good sign for all of running and Hoka fans (assuming they keep progressing). The fit of a Hoka and of an Adizero product are VERY different. I'm personally an Adidas fan, but of my running crew (3 others) none get on with Adidas fit. One is Puma/Asics, one is Nike/Asics and one was exclusively Saucony.
Bro kofuzi your videos are getting better and better every time! I like hoka I just wish they would have same sales on their shoes on my area I usually have to pay always a retail price that's the only thing I don't like about hoka
I'm copping, will get a Bondi 6 was supersoft , and Rocket X 2 X. if Hoka good enough Pete Kostilnik to run 50 miles a day , everyday across the nation in rough 6 weeks .. That's my shoe.
This is a revolutionary shoe, better responsiveness than the Vaporfly3. There is a forefoot sweet spot that really responds. You won't feel it at marathon pace, unless you're elite. Super upper with good lockdown. I'm a long sprinter and use it for intervals on the track. The Adidas Takumi Sen 9 is also very responsive and better than the Vaporfly3 and is the same weight, super light, almost an oz less than the Rocket X2. I don't know why anyone would buy the Adidas SLs since they have the same stack as the Adidas Takumi Sen 9 but are almost 2 oz lighter?
I'm a Hoka guy the last four plus years, but am considering other options. I'm an older runner(65), and would like a racer with some cushion to it for 5K, 10K, and half marathon distance. Your saying the foam is denser, makes me think twice about trying this shoe, especially at $250. I have the Rocket X, and while it's super light, my legs and feet take a beating in it. Maybe carbon plated shoes just aren't made for guys like me at this stage of life. I'm not slow, but obviously not fast like when I was 22, and weighing 140 pounds either. Maybe racing in Mach5's is the way to go , at least for me.
I'm a similar age to you but I wouldn't recommend the Mach 5 if you're after cushion. I much prefer the Rincon which is far more cushioned than the Mach, v.light and stable. I find the Mach 5 far too firm underfoot for my liking.
If you’re mostly racing 5K, 10K and HM max, as. 71 yr old female I highly recommend the adidas Takumi Sen 8, now discounted since v9 has been released. Even at full price it’s a great value. Someone light weight like myself could easily do a HM in them. I only use them for races after having tested them first of course. If it’s not enough shoe for HM, get v8 for the shorter races (v9 is almost identical according to all reviews) and consider the Saucony Endorphin Pro3 for HM if you can find a colorway that’s discounted. Some people claim they already have found it discounted here and there. It’s the first carbon plated race shoe that I’m going to be using on a marathon. It’s very bouncy and cushioned and people are using it for all distances. Try it on in a local running store. My independent running store I visit when in San Diego has a “club discount” so I got 20% off even right after it was released.
@@Martha-fluterunner thanks for the info . I've seen most of the Kofuzi reviews, and the Takumi Sen and Endorphin 3 Speed or Pro are on my list of must try shoes. I like to buy previous model year to save a bundle, don't necessarily need to have the latest and greatest. I lived in San Diego my whole life until 2019 and a move to the east coast(MD) . San Diego has such great weather and a huge running community. Local running scene here is very dedicated, though small by big city standards. 71 and still racing, that's very inspiring. Keep it up!
@@Martha-fluterunner I love the takumi sen for shorter distances but I disagree with the various opinions out there that the saucony pro 3 are "soft and bouncy". I think they are OK, very comfortable on foot, but much more of a hard, firm feel compared to something like the vaporfly or the takumi sen (takumi sen hard to compare since its a totally different shoe really).
I think the original Hoka Rocket X has the most fluid feel at marathon pace of any shoe. But, one run on winter road , with small gravel they lay out here on ice , completely destroyed the foam part of the outsole. And small stones and sand get stuck into the sole, right up to the carbon plate. Was wondering my shoe had manufacturing fault. So destroyed after 2-3 runs.
Thanks for the review. This April I'm going to run my first full marathon. I have Mach 4 and Clifton 8 what shoes to use for this run. In 2022 I ran 2 half marathons in Clifton 8. Preliminary time for 42K 3h50m.
Had great step in feel and bouncy and cushy but these shoes aren’t for me I think. Gives me cuboid pain on both my feet, not sure why and outsole wearing out super quick on me. I realize they are race shoes but I can’t see them lasting even a marathon for me. I see too much visible wear on the outsole in less than 15 miles. Probably something personal with my feet, but these disappointed me because they initially felt so good putting them on, but later also felt sluggish for me more than likely because I’m used to 8-10mm drop in most of my other shoes. I’ll reserve these for tempo days and I don’t think the outsole will last one month for me - and then I’ll end up throwing them out. Also had Clifton 9’s which also had outsoles that died on me super prematurely; threw those out a couple days ago as well after less than 30 miles. I think this was my last Hoka purchase. French company - Hoka indeed feels like the Renaults of running shoes, imao. Oh well…
What’s discouraging is that $250 is probably too much for this shoe, but Hoka from what I’ve seen rarely discounts shoes unless the next version is coming soon. Clifton 8’s only just recently went on sale due to 9’s coming soon despite it being out for a long time.
you've been very helpful with my purchasing decisions. if you ever run out of content ideas and have the time, could you possibly do a video ranking which shoe is the most durable.
Well I have Hoka Mach 5 as my daily trainer and bondi 8 for recovery days. I kind of want the rocket x2 just for my half marathon race just to stay in the hoka family
Hey Ko. Between shoes like the Rocket X2, NB SC Elite v3, Endorphin Pro 3, Speed 3 and Adios Pro 3-which do you think would be the "friendliest" and most stable for a first half marathon and marathon? Or put simply: which is the more beginner-friendly superfoam racer? Great video as always.
My first and only pair of hokas was the Clifton 7. Although I got them to 150 miles, I never really loved it. Ended up keeping the ortholite insoles and giving the shoes away to a homeless person with no shoes
I just got my pair in the same colourway, and I'm having quite a different experience from you. I'm wondering if the PEBA is temperature sensitive, it feels pretty soft.
nike doesn't send me anything, so I had to wait for it to go on sale. I ordered it right away, and for whatever reason, it won't arrive for two weeks 🤷🏻♂️
Very nice review. But Oh the dreaded term”influencer” (used to laugh about people being influenced about anything until I glanced at my shoe collection). I do believe you’re the first to do so.
I've been looking for your review on Nike Tempo Next%, can you share that one? I couldn't find in your videos. This thing is great for speed session I guess, and it's on great sale at this moment. ✌
Would you recommend just to get OG Rocket X, and wait for this one to be on sale next year? I have some daily trainers and looking for a speedy shoe. Thanks for your reviews!
hmmm. that's a pretty good comparison, although it's been a while since I've run in the Zoom Fly SP. I wonder how much nostalgia would be coloring that comparison for me
@@kofuzi interesting .. thanks - from reviewers both seem lower drop, rockered race options - haven’t tried on the metaspeed sky plus yet … hope to next week
I wouldn't buy them specifically for that purpose. but if I already had them and then had a 2 mile race put on my calendar, I also wouldn't feel like I absolutely needed to go out and get another race shoe.
@@kofuzi thanks for the quick reply. If you had a choice of any shoe on the market for a 2 miler, which would you pick for maximum speed for that short of a duration ?? Thanks
Could this finally be the carbon plated shoe for flat foot runners who immediately feel pain when trying any other carbon plated shoes? Anyone else have that problem?
Hello, I loved your video. If anyone can suggest a shoe under $100 or close it $100 for half marathon, it would be helpful. Started running last year's September. I already ran a 7.5k and 2 half marathons, I used Reebok lite 2 and Puma Transport Modern running shoes. Sadly, I hurt myself in the half marathons. So, I want to upgrade my shoes but do not want to spend much as of now as I am still new.
yea but i don't get why some of these vloggers say that its not really a marathon shoe and say its more for half marathons, but they don't say why. this shoe seems like it hits all the check marks
Completely disagree with the comparison to the adidas adizero SL - RX2 is a full peba midsole with a plate. The midsole feels much more like adidas pro 2.
I would suggest rewatching the video a bit more carefully. The Adizero SL suggestion very clearly comes in the section of the video where I suggest shoes that would pair well with the Rocket X2. It is not proffered as a competitor or alternative
part of me agrees with this statement, but I try to remember that not everyone likes the same kind of shoes that I do. any time I talk negatively about the Rocket X or the Carbon X, I hear from runners for whom the shoes have worked very well.
@@kofuzi yeah it’s a hard no for me. Sorry Hoka. EVO speedgoat is the best trail shoe ever made in my opinion. Carbon x2 I enjoyed for very long road runs but most of the other shoes are rubbish
Sorry, @kofuzi , but this review is not very useful or valuable if you don’t compare the shoe against Adios Pro 3, Endorphin Pro 3, Vaporfly etc. If it can’t compare with those - than just say it.
@@kofuzi You're the best youtuber to explain the feeling and sensation a running shoe can provide - no need for me to point you to other videos. However this review of Rocket X2 would be more useful if you compared it with the other marathon racing shoes, which you do already have extensive experience with.
@@kofuzi for the number they ask? I’m looking for a long term relationship! 😂 just a few years ago we all enjoyed the 130-150 tops shoes… now we’re about doubling that. Hard to imagine but at the same time not. It’s the reality we live with these days. So far Hokas and a few New Balance models have been the brands that provide me with longevity vs price.
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I love the colorways we’ve seen for this shoe. So glad Hoka made a good carbon plated shoe finally!! I’m going to try it out for a half marathon this summer.
Yeah I like the colors too!
Thanks for the review - its good to know that there are options for folks that like a bit of a firmer ride.
Kofuzi's point about the shoe not being something he'd wear for a marathon is valid, for him. For me, I've done marathons in traditional racing flats and it worked out fine, so this shoe should work for me. I appreciate Mike giving such an honest review.
Thanks for the review. This is exactly how I felt about the RocketX. Nice shoe for some speed sessions, but would never want to run a full marathon in it
i do really like the part when you talking about consider and pair with other shoes. it sometime give us idea to build rotation shoes.
thanks mate! Goodluck
Just subscribed, just ran a BQ age 53/4 after 10 years of not wanting it enough…..love your content…knowledgeable, walk the talk running buddy chat! I use the Hoka Carbon X as my daily. The carbon plate supports the toe box much better, the foam is spongy/durable - this shoe (for me) was ideal to recover from a high arch/long toe problem i always had with recurrent tendonitis as my mileage went up, always costing me 3-10 days recovery at the wrong time…..recovered on these shoes, never had it since despite going from a 50-55 mile peak to a 76 mile peak and more 20+ milers on my BQ set this year. ALSO - i used to run a 10 EE (wide) Adrenaline….this is a rare carbon plate option that has. A stretchy upper, so worked well form me with chubby feet =often limited choice => Finally a carbon plate option for me with good cushioning. BONUS - while a higher price point, the plate means the shoe lasts 100+ miles longer. DOUBLE BONUS….paired really well with the springy, light Rocket X for my last long run and race!
Hey man, keep it up! I stumbled on this channel, and I feel like it's criminal the @kofuzi is acting like this is an unbiased review. I see that you like his content, so just want to point out to you that they are essentially paying him, and he does not want to ruin his relationship with them, making this review completely null and void. And it irritates me that he does that disclaimer to make it seem like he's unbiased by "putting it all out there", but it's actually misleading, because he should say "I'm paid by Hoka, I won't give them a 100% negative review bc I value my relationship with them." @kofuzi
I am really glad you gave a review of this shoe. I was so disappointed with the Carbon X2 that I went and bought a bunch of the original Carbon X to continue to use in some workouts. I currently use the my Hoka Rocket X for speedier sessions and races that are more twisty(since I feel a little uneasy in the Nike Alphafly). I have REALLY high hopes for this shoe! 🤞
very curious to see how you get on with this shoe. it's so different than any of the Carbon X shoes
You seemed to have a missed a comparison with every other "super shoe" that has come from out from other brands in the last few years. Not getting me very excited if it might be comparable with a Brooks shoe.
That's a sure-cancel if it's gonna be brookslike. But atleast they doing pebax now . This looks somuch like the vaporfly
Agree 100%
It doesnt matter bro. Top tier runners like you pick nike or adidas, maybe asics and saucony so you wont get excited. But lots of runners on race day still show up in their hokas. I agree with you though.
Well, you can right those wrongs in your own review instead of complaining here surely?
@@lechef3878 that hardly was complaining ? Lemme guess your pronounce are them and her?
You’d think that running would be a cheap hobby but damnnn it’s expensive 😅 thanks for the review Ko 🙏🏾
Bro. I’m a beginner and have 2 pairs of hokas and a Nike all together my shoes came up to $550 and those are only good for 4-5 months before I’ll have to buy more it’s crazy lol.
I could run in basketball shoes like back in the day if I had to but running shoes just really help especially since I’m all concrete.
Watch for last years models and discontinued colors can save 25-50% if you look for deals like this it is definitely worth the savings.
@@pbnotj1 x2 I got a pair of Rebel V2 and V3 for under $80 each when they were on sale.
@@DriveandThrive If you're a beginner you really don't need 3 pairs of shoes. There are a few daily trainers that can be your every day shoe for all of your runs (Novablast 3, Rebel V3).
Watch the reviews from multiple reviewers. Don't rush to buying a shoe. Make a list and wait for 30-40% discounts. Almost all of my shoes are like this. I even got some at 50% discount. Saucony, PUMA etc. offer frequent discount codes. For Nike and Adidas you need to watch their website/app frequently on your interested shoes. Some colorways are discounted regularly.
Really digging the colour ways! I’m looking forward to trying it out. Great review GOAT
Thanks Fordy!
All I've ever used the Rocket X for is long runs from 8 to 13 miles but I do like the Rocket X it seems light and stable.
awesome reviews ! this is my most of favorite racing shoe i used until now and absolutely Hoka Rocket X2 🔥👊🏼🔥
I thought your evaluation of the new Hoka model was excellent, both in terms of details and the feeling of running. Particularly this final comparison with models that you think are similar or complementary was even more special. I have the Adidas SL model, just arrived here in Brazil, and I'm loving training with it.
Great review love these shoes
Oh, i love floppy (soft) heel cups. Can´t wait to get my hands on it, not that i´m running half-marathons on full-marathons but would like to try it during my 10 k run.
By mentioning the brooks and altra shoes , basically you’re subtly saying that the the rocket x2 is still a second tier super shoe , heck i think its a reach to even call it a supershoe .
Full peba plus carbon plate plus lighter than shoes like the NB SC Elite v4 - how is it not a supershoe?!
Great Video Kofuzi!
thanks Hellah!
I guess we all agree it certainly looks nice--beautiful colors! For Brooks naysayers, don’t discount the Hyperion Max. The Hyperion Tempo has been a phenomenal shoe and I think the Max is even better. They are race-worthy at least up to HM for those who don’t get along with carbon plates or super soft high stack max cushion. For me either one has a place in a rotation at the very least, provided you don’t mind experiencing some ground feel (not a bad idea for your biomechanics at least some of the time). The midsoles are on the firmer side of the spectrum at first but really open up and are a load of fun doing speed-work or just faster miles in general. They perform well at any pace and I believe having a very diverse rotation of shoes has kept me uninjured.
I think I prefer the proto colors
@@kofuzi ha-just had to add something about Brooks not all being dad shoes 😂. So what was that proto colorway?
It was long overdue for HOKA to switch to PEBA for performance/racing shoes. It is a good updated for Rocket X2. If one is into low drop shoes, this could be a good option. Hopefully they will release Carbon X3 with PEBA foam as well. Ultimately, they will need a training shoe similar to Endorphin Speed with PEBA foam as well.
The Mach X after the summer will do
Interesting! I was buying Hoka shoes for a few years and really enjoyed running in the original Rocket X (enough to have 2 pairs of them) but wouldn’t claim they made the slightest difference to my running even with the plate. Since then I’ve switched back to Adidas (always used to buy Adidas prior to my Hoka spell) and as good as the Rocket X2 looks, I don’t think it’s going to tear me away from my Adios Pro 3 and Prime X Strung duo that I’m liking a lot. Hoka needed to release these 6 months ago
I ran in the Rocket X all last year and it is nowhere near as good as the Adios Pro. I think the review is right on. Good shoe but nowhere near comfortable enough for a marathon compared to all the super shoes in the market
@@andrewstearns9276 Fair, but if this is their direction, that's a good sign for all of running and Hoka fans (assuming they keep progressing). The fit of a Hoka and of an Adizero product are VERY different. I'm personally an Adidas fan, but of my running crew (3 others) none get on with Adidas fit. One is Puma/Asics, one is Nike/Asics and one was exclusively Saucony.
wow. this color looks great!
Bro kofuzi your videos are getting better and better every time! I like hoka I just wish they would have same sales on their shoes on my area I usually have to pay always a retail price that's the only thing I don't like about hoka
I'm copping, will get a Bondi 6 was supersoft , and Rocket X 2 X. if Hoka good enough Pete Kostilnik to run 50 miles a day , everyday across the nation in rough 6 weeks .. That's my shoe.
Already have money set aside for this. the rocket is one of my favourite shoes, can't wait for the x2 for the summer season.
This is a revolutionary shoe, better responsiveness than the Vaporfly3. There is a forefoot sweet spot that really responds. You won't feel it at marathon pace, unless you're elite. Super upper with good lockdown. I'm a long sprinter and use it for intervals on the track. The Adidas Takumi Sen 9 is also very responsive and better than the Vaporfly3 and is the same weight, super light, almost an oz less than the Rocket X2. I don't know why anyone would buy the Adidas SLs since they have the same stack as the Adidas Takumi Sen 9 but are almost 2 oz lighter?
Nice informative review, thanks 👍🏻
I'm a Hoka guy the last four plus years, but am considering other options. I'm an older runner(65), and would like a racer with some cushion to it for 5K, 10K, and half marathon distance. Your saying the foam is denser, makes me think twice about trying this shoe, especially at $250.
I have the Rocket X, and while it's super light, my legs and feet take a beating in it.
Maybe carbon plated shoes just aren't made for guys like me at this stage of life. I'm not slow, but obviously not fast like when I was 22, and weighing 140 pounds either.
Maybe racing in Mach5's is the way to go , at least for me.
I'm a similar age to you but I wouldn't recommend the Mach 5 if you're after cushion. I much prefer the Rincon which is far more cushioned than the Mach, v.light and stable. I find the Mach 5 far too firm underfoot for my liking.
If you’re mostly racing 5K, 10K and HM max, as. 71 yr old female I highly recommend the adidas Takumi Sen 8, now discounted since v9 has been released. Even at full price it’s a great value. Someone light weight like myself could easily do a HM in them. I only use them for races after having tested them first of course. If it’s not enough shoe for HM, get v8 for the shorter races (v9 is almost identical according to all reviews) and consider the Saucony Endorphin Pro3 for HM if you can find a colorway that’s discounted. Some people claim they already have found it discounted here and there. It’s the first carbon plated race shoe that I’m going to be using on a marathon. It’s very bouncy and cushioned and people are using it for all distances. Try it on in a local running store. My independent running store I visit when in San Diego has a “club discount” so I got 20% off even right after it was released.
@@Martha-fluterunner thanks for the info . I've seen most of the Kofuzi reviews, and the Takumi Sen and Endorphin 3 Speed or Pro are on my list of must try shoes.
I like to buy previous model year to save a bundle, don't necessarily need to have the latest and greatest.
I lived in San Diego my whole life until 2019 and a move to the east coast(MD) .
San Diego has such great weather and a huge running community.
Local running scene here is very dedicated, though small by big city standards.
71 and still racing, that's very inspiring.
Keep it up!
@@Martha-fluterunner I love the takumi sen for shorter distances but I disagree with the various opinions out there that the saucony pro 3 are "soft and bouncy". I think they are OK, very comfortable on foot, but much more of a hard, firm feel compared to something like the vaporfly or the takumi sen (takumi sen hard to compare since its a totally different shoe really).
Look forward for the review of Rincon 4.
colorways!!!
i think i love the revamp of rocket X..
Thanks .. This is much helpful.
V1 is still my "treadmill-shoe"🔥👍
I think the original Hoka Rocket X has the most fluid feel at marathon pace of any shoe. But, one run on winter road , with small gravel they lay out here on ice , completely destroyed the foam part of the outsole. And small stones and sand get stuck into the sole, right up to the carbon plate. Was wondering my shoe had manufacturing fault. So destroyed after 2-3 runs.
I ran multiple times with the rocket x on dirt roads with many rocks. my experience is very different than yours
I think it's odd that we don't see racers in wide sizes
Thanks for the review. This April I'm going to run my first full marathon. I have Mach 4 and Clifton 8 what shoes to use for this run. In 2022 I ran 2 half marathons in Clifton 8. Preliminary time for 42K 3h50m.
Solid reviews.
Thank you
Looking forward to trying it. It kinda zags while the rest of the industry is zigging.
Had great step in feel and bouncy and cushy but these shoes aren’t for me I think. Gives me cuboid pain on both my feet, not sure why and outsole wearing out super quick on me. I realize they are race shoes but I can’t see them lasting even a marathon for me. I see too much visible wear on the outsole in less than 15 miles. Probably something personal with my feet, but these disappointed me because they initially felt so good putting them on, but later also felt sluggish for me more than likely because I’m used to 8-10mm drop in most of my other shoes. I’ll reserve these for tempo days and I don’t think the outsole will last one month for me - and then I’ll end up throwing them out. Also had Clifton 9’s which also had outsoles that died on me super prematurely; threw those out a couple days ago as well after less than 30 miles. I think this was my last Hoka purchase. French company - Hoka indeed feels like the Renaults of running shoes, imao. Oh well…
Something like the Mach 5 but with that thinner upper would be vedy vedy nice.
What size Tracksmith shorts are you wearing in the video. The navy with white bottom
What’s discouraging is that $250 is probably too much for this shoe, but Hoka from what I’ve seen rarely discounts shoes unless the next version is coming soon. Clifton 8’s only just recently went on sale due to 9’s coming soon despite it being out for a long time.
Why would Hoka price a top tier carbon plated racer below what their competitors are pricing theirs at?
I find hoka shoes on discount all the time, as long as you look at retailers, not their own website!
you've been very helpful with my purchasing decisions. if you ever run out of content ideas and have the time, could you possibly do a video ranking which shoe is the most durable.
I typically only run to 100 miles in any shoe, so I no longer have a lot of empirical evidence to draw from
@@kofuzi gotcha, thanks
Random question. But at one point after your 4:48 Marathon did you decide to just start training for sub 3? Love the content!! Inspiring!
I understand the concern of it being a little denser for a marathon, but people used to run in basically bricks for marathons so it’s def a marathon
Surprised the mach 5 didn't make the cut for pairing with the rocket X2, do you prefer the Rincon 3 over the Mach 5?
Well I have Hoka Mach 5 as my daily trainer and bondi 8 for recovery days. I kind of want the rocket x2 just for my half marathon race just to stay in the hoka family
that would be a solid trio
Midsole description sounds much like the OG Endorphin Pro. Not my cup of tea but great looking shoe from Hoka.
He said it felt stable. Pro 1 wasn’t stable
@@paddywiggle def wider/stable in Hoka but midsole cushion/ride sounds very similar.
I think that's a pretty good comparison, although I think the Rocket X2 may a bit more forgiving for the full marathon distance.
Their colorways are dope asf
Hey Ko. Between shoes like the Rocket X2, NB SC Elite v3, Endorphin Pro 3, Speed 3 and Adios Pro 3-which do you think would be the "friendliest" and most stable for a first half marathon and marathon? Or put simply: which is the more beginner-friendly superfoam racer? Great video as always.
I would say NB SC v3
I’d recommend the Endorphin Pro 3. It’s soft and fast but more stable than most other max cushion racing shoes
I'd go with the sc elite 3
@@kofuzi thanks!
My first and only pair of hokas was the Clifton 7. Although I got them to 150 miles, I never really loved it. Ended up keeping the ortholite insoles and giving the shoes away to a homeless person with no shoes
he probably would have appreciated the insoles
Is this available in wide?
A bit surprised they didn't go closer to the 40mm stack limit...🤔
I just got my pair in the same colourway, and I'm having quite a different experience from you. I'm wondering if the PEBA is temperature sensitive, it feels pretty soft.
These days?
For me, train in Hoka, race in Nike. Unless it's a trail race. Cheers
Yes !
Michael, any idea about New Balance 1080 v13? No one talk about it.
Are you going to review the invincible run 3?
nike doesn't send me anything, so I had to wait for it to go on sale. I ordered it right away, and for whatever reason, it won't arrive for two weeks 🤷🏻♂️
Great! When is the shoe available? Spring / Summer?
Any word on your Tokyo meetup shakeout run?
Ok, absolutely random question for you: what brand is the silicone ring? I like the colour, figuring I can match some to my shoes.
Very nice review. But Oh the dreaded term”influencer” (used to laugh about people being influenced about anything until I glanced at my shoe collection). I do believe you’re the first to do so.
it has a lot of negative connotations, but it's how I introduce myself to people these days. it's a useful albeit flawed shorthand. 🤷🏻♂️
I've been looking for your review on Nike Tempo Next%, can you share that one? I couldn't find in your videos. This thing is great for speed session I guess, and it's on great sale at this moment. ✌
I did not review that shoe
solid overview…, not for me.., I think. This being says I have considered the vanish carbon
Would you recommend just to get OG Rocket X, and wait for this one to be on sale next year? I have some daily trainers and looking for a speedy shoe. Thanks for your reviews!
This reminds me of the zoom fly SP. I still run in that shoe if that tells you how I feel.
hmmm. that's a pretty good comparison, although it's been a while since I've run in the Zoom Fly SP. I wonder how much nostalgia would be coloring that comparison for me
Yikes, $250 is crazy. Adios Pro 3 can be found at $150 on sale and Alphafly / Vaporfly at sub $200.
HI
How would these compare to the metaspeed sky + - seem pretty similar ? Thanks !
I would not consider them similar
@@kofuzi interesting .. thanks - from reviewers both seem lower drop, rockered race options - haven’t tried on the metaspeed sky plus yet … hope to next week
I'm sure you've stated this elsewhere, Kofuzi, but what's your pick for favorite marathon racer with the squish and deflection you like?
endorphin elite is a great example. I'm also a huge fan of the metaspeed sky plus. I've hit several PBs in that shoe
Do u know if these will come in a wide fit?
hey bro, can i use it for my weekend long run, i mean one a week for about 15 km or half marathon
It’s a shoe for racing or workouts. If you weekend long run is mostly easy effort, it’s probably not the first shoe I’d recommend
Wo kann ich die Schuhe kaufen
Hoka.com
u got heel slip on Rocketx 2 ?
So this is still a ground feel type shoe?
Would these be good for an all out 2 mile race/ time trial??
I wouldn't buy them specifically for that purpose. but if I already had them and then had a 2 mile race put on my calendar, I also wouldn't feel like I absolutely needed to go out and get another race shoe.
@@kofuzi thanks for the quick reply. If you had a choice of any shoe on the market for a 2 miler, which would you pick for maximum speed for that short of a duration ?? Thanks
The Hoka Rocket X 2 looks almost identical to the Nike Zoom Fly SP.
So when you say it was a very hot day in Miami, what was the temperature like ?
Not quite as hot as it was for NYC Marathon this year, but hot enough for me considering the 6am start. Great for spectators, not great for racing
I’ve been training for my marathon in the mach 5s, which hoka for marathon race day?
if you want to stay with Hoka, the Rocket X2 is a good option. Otherwise, I'd also consider Endorphin Pro 3, SC Elite 3, or Metaspeed Sky Plus
Adios Pro 3 or this one
Could this finally be the carbon plated shoe for flat foot runners who immediately feel pain when trying any other carbon plated shoes? Anyone else have that problem?
Hello, I loved your video. If anyone can suggest a shoe under $100 or close it $100 for half marathon, it would be helpful. Started running last year's September. I already ran a 7.5k and 2 half marathons, I used Reebok lite 2 and Puma Transport Modern running shoes. Sadly, I hurt myself in the half marathons. So, I want to upgrade my shoes but do not want to spend much as of now as I am still new.
A discounted Clifton 8?
yea but i don't get why some of these vloggers say that its not really a marathon shoe and say its more for half marathons, but they don't say why. this shoe seems like it hits all the check marks
Then I think you will like it for whichever distance your checklist contemplates. Happy running!
@@kofuzi how come u wouldn’t recommend this for a full marathon?
@Animejook rewatch the video he answers this question.
مرحبا كيف الحال اي فراغ في أرضية الحذاء من تحت تشكل مشكلة نفسية للعداء ممكن ان تجمع الحصى فيها
Is Hoka just locked into firmer as a philosophy?
Thanks for the review. What about the cusioning? Is more of the firmer side?
Completely disagree with the comparison to the adidas adizero SL - RX2 is a full peba midsole with a plate. The midsole feels much more like adidas pro 2.
I would suggest rewatching the video a bit more carefully. The Adizero SL suggestion very clearly comes in the section of the video where I suggest shoes that would pair well with the Rocket X2. It is not proffered as a competitor or alternative
Oh totally missed the “rotation build” comment - yes, agreed! My bad.
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I could be wrong but I think the only people buying this shoe are the hard-core Hoka fans. Too many other great options to choose from.
part of me agrees with this statement, but I try to remember that not everyone likes the same kind of shoes that I do. any time I talk negatively about the Rocket X or the Carbon X, I hear from runners for whom the shoes have worked very well.
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2 oz heavier than a VF? That’s almost embarrassing
this comment is on brand for this username
@@kofuzi yeah it’s a hard no for me. Sorry Hoka. EVO speedgoat is the best trail shoe ever made in my opinion. Carbon x2 I enjoyed for very long road runs but most of the other shoes are rubbish
Should have said “Hope-ka” 😂
Clerance shoes 2022 like adidas boston 11 $59 , adios 7 $40, ADISTAR $50 SKECHERS speed& razors $59 , Asics magic speed, novablast, nike fly and fly something $69, and even posser brand HOKAS $69-79 Rei , ill pass thank you
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Sorry, @kofuzi , but this review is not very useful or valuable if you don’t compare the shoe against Adios Pro 3, Endorphin Pro 3, Vaporfly etc. If it can’t compare with those - than just say it.
I'm sorry this review did not live up to your expectations. can you provide a link to a more satisfactory video so I may learn?
@@kofuzi You're the best youtuber to explain the feeling and sensation a running shoe can provide - no need for me to point you to other videos. However this review of Rocket X2 would be more useful if you compared it with the other marathon racing shoes, which you do already have extensive experience with.
HOKA'S seem to be designed to last max 300 miles.
What are you talking about? I have Rincon 3 on 650km, Carbon X2 on 550km, Clifton 8 on 600 km. All of them are still going strong.
@@piotr8582 depends on how much you weigh to be honest. My Clifton 8s were pretty dead at 400 miles.
My Bondis are knocking on 500’s door. I’m currently well over 200#s.
You say that like it’s a low number.
@@kofuzi for the number they ask? I’m looking for a long term relationship! 😂 just a few years ago we all enjoyed the 130-150 tops shoes… now we’re about doubling that. Hard to imagine but at the same time not. It’s the reality we live with these days. So far Hokas and a few New Balance models have been the brands that provide me with longevity vs price.
Who’s here in 2024 to check if we can grab Rocket X2 in discount
Who’s buying your Hoka’s? Mom and Dad! Grow up and buy your own shoes. First, get a job or two! Good afternoon!
you mad bro?
I keep reading this original comment in the voice of Frank Costanza
"Hpka sent them to me for the purpose of review"...
feel free to see if you can find the disclosures that Runner's World provides
they wine and dined him and said , do a review .
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Brooks is awful. Nooo so sad
you ever try the hyperion max? it's pretty good.