Franenberg on the violone | Netherlands Bach Society

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

Комментарии • 28

  • @johnmalin4933
    @johnmalin4933 4 года назад +30

    Whenever I'm upset, this channel is able to make me feel better. It is my "safe space".

  • @ru99414
    @ru99414 6 лет назад +30

    Very good hearing from the bass players!

  • @muzgash
    @muzgash 5 лет назад +20

    So interesting to see behind the scenes, i wish there was more of this kind of material

  • @hansjohannsson1
    @hansjohannsson1 5 лет назад +2

    Wonderful description of an approach.

  • @ROBINdulce
    @ROBINdulce 6 лет назад +6

    Cátedra magistral: cumplir la función armónica, evitar el protagonismo.

  • @J_J_B_B
    @J_J_B_B 5 лет назад +6

    Does anyone know the actual name of the 1:43 organ instrument? I've been looking for it and the only thing I've found is that it's a continuo organ or chamber organ

    • @bach
      @bach  5 лет назад +5

      That's correct: it's called a continuo organ or positive organ. You can find more information here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_organ

  • @markpapin1045
    @markpapin1045 6 лет назад +3

    "Very much appreciated structure and, very different from some of my experience in instruments" " See that the wonderful incredible look of classical instruments, and Clarinet, "All In Wonderful Brass" "Very Nice"

  • @phwbooth
    @phwbooth 6 лет назад +3

    Most interesting.

  • @gnypp45
    @gnypp45 4 месяца назад

    4:10
    🥲"It's not a concerto for violone, it's just a secco recitative."

  • @mbtr30
    @mbtr30 3 года назад +3

    Great informative video! One question here: So as Mr. Franenberg also mentioned, unlike double bass, violone is a fretted instrument. Then why his double bass also has frets on the neck? Is this because his instrument is probably a historical one? Asides from the frets, I can see some other differences between his double bass and the modern instrument.

    • @arthuraraujo3608
      @arthuraraujo3608 2 года назад +3

      indeed, baroque basses used to have gut strings and gut frets, also the bow is very different, the tip is lighter and it´s curved out so you have a softer, quieter sound in the middle and way less attack compared to modern bows

  • @derwishrenegat743
    @derwishrenegat743 Год назад

    Only double bass and viola have survived from the viol family to our days. Cello and violin have already run very far from this family. They became the embodiment of the romantic era, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Paganini. And the viola and violone were the embodiment of the baroque, and the viola and double bass remain so even now, although they are also used for the performance of modern musical works, and they entered the modern symphony orchestra...

    • @topsecret1837
      @topsecret1837 3 месяца назад

      To my knowledge, the viola is not part of the viol family. It existed at the same time as the violin when they were first made in the mid 16th century.

  • @aidanmays7825
    @aidanmays7825 Год назад +1

    Wonderful video but also revealing about the current state of HIP. "Dont be expressive, just give the harmonic function" is a really weird take because the harmony is fundamentally a mode of expressing the affekt. Players of dynamic, sustaining instruments dont need to pretend theyre a harpsichord

  • @newclarence
    @newclarence 4 года назад +2

    So many questions. So many strings, how can you find the right string with the bow without hitting the others? The finger board is curved, are the frets raised or just visual? If raised, how do you keep them from buzzing?

    • @ivanvutev1194
      @ivanvutev1194 4 года назад +1

      The orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment have a great video on the viola da gamba on their channel that might answer some of your question. The gambist there talks about the use of frets and the number of strings.

    • @Skipper77777777
      @Skipper77777777 3 года назад +1

      The strings are high enough off the fingerboard that buzzing against the frets is rarely an issue. Also, the bridge is curved more than the fingerboard.

  • @Guuzaka
    @Guuzaka 6 лет назад +4

    I bet the violone must have a "violone" price tag! 🤣 It's definitely got an impressive appearance and a softer sound.

  • @lior1328
    @lior1328 5 лет назад +1

    😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @thebadcellist
    @thebadcellist 7 месяцев назад

    How are these two instruments different? How are the strings tuned? thanks.

    • @bach
      @bach  7 месяцев назад

      The smaller instrument is the 8-foot violone and the bigger one is the 16-foot violone. The 16-foot violone goes lower and deeper. The 8-foot one functions like a cello with a somewhat bigger range. The tuning of the violone strings are adaptable and depend on the general pitch, which is mostly A=415 Hz (or A=465 in early Bach works).

    • @wetzles
      @wetzles 26 дней назад

      The violone is the big bass of the viol family. To sizes the great bass (seen here) tuned (low to high) G C F A D G and and even bigger one, the contrabass tuned (low to high) D G C E A D.

    • @thebadcellist
      @thebadcellist 26 дней назад

      @@wetzles Thanks.

  • @medora2499
    @medora2499 3 года назад

    Those instruments look too much like cellos for my liking. I prefer my violones to look more like the viols they descended from.

  • @ronwass
    @ronwass 4 года назад +2

    Maybe the cello colors the bass. Huh?

    • @woutmoerman711
      @woutmoerman711 8 месяцев назад

      I like that one! Kind regards from a bass player.

  • @manimani-gb3ok
    @manimani-gb3ok Год назад

    thanks
    would also help the double bass players not to drag in some places