Secret Invasion - Every Marvel Movie Ranked & Recapped
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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This episode of Kinda Funny In Review we rank, review, and recap the 2023 Marvel Studios MCU Disney Plus Show Secret Invasion starring Samuel L Jackson.
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I appreciate Tim's real fear of never knowing what Greg is going to say next.
Unfortunately that’s what happens when one joke can end a career.
@@eliot327or a joke can restart your career and make it so you're doing better than ever before
The Loki trailer reaction is even better!! When he mentions Kermit and 911 in the same sentence the look on Tims face is priceless!!
Despite my disappointment for secret invasion the content the crew have made and the way they did the weekly show with guests has been great.
100% agreed on this. I really liked the episode by episode coverage with the great guests.
Tim Gettys? More like Gem Gettys. 💎
I don’t know if it’s the worst, but this is the most disappointed I’ve been by a Disney+ show.
This.
When it comes down to it, l don't think there's any other MCU content that l wouldn't watch over Secret Invasion
Id say this can only be saved by having implications in the rest of the Kang saga movies
So much teeing up for reveals, twists, and teases, and "wet fart" is a great way to describe how it went out. Mystery shows, even more so than mystery movies, can set things up, but they need payoff. Otherwise, it feels like they robbed you of your time. The only big payoff that may impact things is that Rhodey missed out on events - that hopefully don't end up going back as far as Civil War because it doesn't make any sense AT ALL. I'm hoping we see Emilia Clarke again, but the effects have to wear off or have some kind of limitation, ffs.
EXACTLY THIS
There has to be something else in the Coke that Greg drinks😭there’s no way it turns him up that much
I think he’s just…like that.
Adderall
7 minutes in and this is already SO much more entertaining than secret invasion
Now we really need Bridgerton In Review!
Theres In Review and there is In Review with Greg Miller. lmao
51:06 if my memory serves me correctly, when Rhodey does the "canopy..." thing in Endgame, he rolls out of his armor, and he seems to be moving with very limited leg movement as well.
WHO, CARES!
Not since Quantumania, have I finished an MCU show/movie and my immediate thought was "Well, what the fuck was even the point?"
I wish every MCU Disney+ show was just those scenes with great writing and two characters really getting into it. Getting deep and fleshing characters out in ways the movies can't. As it stands now, it feels like nothing has or will have a payoff
“Id be a great Joker! Id fuck Teddy up!” - Greg Miller Jesus Christ I love when Greg is insanely fun like this! 😂🤣
Oh my fucking god, every single time Greg fucked up the name Talos, I lost it.
" _ABOVE_ Obedi-' *TONY!* '!?" - Greg Miller
21 MCU projects since End Game, same as the number before End Game… That’s kind of depressing tbh
An easy way to get rid of Giah is a line like "Gravik's machine wasn't ready and the powers it transferred only lasted a week" in The Marvels or something. And then we'll never see her again.
I absolutely love chaotic energy Greg Miller, ya’ll joke he has Joker energy but Tim’s description of Greg lets us know his real super power is the uncomfortable penance stare
I think one of the worst things they did to Nick Fury was, HE was not why he became the man that is always one step ahead. It was because he had a secret network of spies feeding him intel through out the years giving him promotion after promotion.
And then they never justified him by having him pull off a clever plan without their help.
Except, he's a spymaster, and was established as Supervising Officer to several subordinate agents at the time of Captain Marvel and got promoted for his actions in that film to a higher level. His role is managing and directing other assets for the good of national/global security, and not so much doing the legwork himself. It's really not all that different from how he's always been shown in the MCU recruiting the heroes to do the work he identifies as needing done, or his limited appearances as a superior in Agents of SHIELD. The fact he seemingly took all the credit for the Skrulls work is bad, but he's not supposed to be much of a field agent after a certain point.
How they confirmed something when the show was about a rebellion that started AFTER the Blip, when Fury went to space, omg it was the plot of the show, Nick abandoning them after coming back,
It’s not officially confirmed Rhodey was a skull since Civil War, the creator of the show doesnt even know for sure and he just speculated. Very shitty stuff all around though. (Edit: Tim clarifies this later in the ep)
I love that this is actually a Bridgerton in Review
You can tell the content of the show itself is lacking by the amount of bits that the guys did to have a lil fun, love it
The Rhodey Skrull since Civil War thing is not confirmed yet right?
I'm pretty sure it's definitely not confirmed and there are very good arguments that it was after endgame
@@gowsa2233 Exactly. I think the biggest “evidence” is that the director/show runner said that he filmed the scene thinking that. But, if it is not confirmed in the show, and the only evidence people are claiming is the Hospital Gown… it can change.
Andy i LOL'd at you saying the "Lakers in 5" thing. These guys just dont get sports, just wanted to let you know I was laughing with you.
Rhodey skrull wasn't since civil war I believe. And definitely not confirmed
Talos & Soren never had a falling out so I'm still baffled that Tim really thought Soren was Gravik.
Tim probably loves those Sharknadoe movies.
Rhodey has not been gone since Civil War. He was kidnapped between Endgame and Falcon and Winter Soldier. Gravik didn't even decide to revolt until after Endgame and falcon and winter soldier is the first time we see him walk without the leg braces. He had a spinal injury. He would be in and out of the hospital for the rest of his life. Him being in a hospital gown doesn't override the fact that the skrulls literally didn't start kidnapping people until post endgame
no one CARES
Skrull Greg is WILD! Maybe he'll open those Jerk Off Stands on New Skrullos.
I would like that very much. It’s all pitched up and the gravy cooking in the pot. You know what I mean? We going camping guys!
I may agree with most your complaints, but I still enjoyed the show. I don’t go into these MCU projects with expectations, I accept what they put out. So I’m not anywhere close to being as disappointed as most of the vocal public. Most of my disappointment with these shows comes from listening to reviewers and reactors complain and make me aware of things that didn’t bother me (i.e. the sky beam at the end of every entry).
Rhodey being abducted since Civil War wouldn’t even make any since.
Skrullville
🎶SOMEBODY SAVE ME🎶
When they show the President on the phone talking to fury in his car, they hang on his face and I could have sworn that he would be revealed as a Skrull
Just now getting around to this episode of MCU in Review because this is the only MCU project i just couldnt and still cant finish, but i gotta listen to the boys 💙
Part of me was worried they wouldn’t have much to talk about in this In Review. 10 minutes in. I was wrong.
I’ve considered myself a casual MCU fan even as I watch all the movies and shows, but for some reason, the way this show ended really frustrated me because I know there won’t be payoffs for a long time if at all which has been a thing in phase 4 since endgame
I still enjoyed this show in many ways I can’t argue with some of what you guys are saying but the show excels for me where Fury, Falsworth, Talos & Priscilla (Fury’s wife) are concerned. I wonder if the reaction to this would have been different if it were simply titled after Fury? Honestly though I liked the show, love it? Eh, maybe not.
It should have been a Nick Fury centered show with building the foundation for the main Secret Invasion crossover event to come later. Instead they tried to do both in one and didn't fully excel at either.
Yeah the show is great. I reckon it’s better than barbie and Oppenheimer. People are crazy and don’t have taste. Marvel stuff is always so much better. Everything else is just not smart enough. Not ahead of the game.
Yum yum
@@JusGo_ I completely agree with that.
"Coca Cola Classic" tastes good to say...
Like curse words 🤣
Did anyone watch the short-lived show called Rubicon? Thats what this should have been like. Edge of your seat spy thriller. Not saying its easy to get right, but surely they couldve been closer to hitting that target than this...
I think this series should have been a MUCH slower burn that ended with an oh shit moment about how deep they've been inbeded that led into a secret invasion movie
"GRAVIK IS THE GUY WHO DIDN'T WANNA JIZZ?" What a review. I didn't even watch Secret Invasion, but this has to be better
Yeah, he liked camping. Always had a tent pitched. Always had the gravy cooking in the pot
I’m to the point where I really don’t care about superheroes any more. I don’t think quality has fallen off as badly as people say, I just think it’s an insane amount of burnout to the genre as a whole. I don’t think there’s much that can be done to get me back in.
Oh no, trust me, the quality HAS absolutely fallen off. Fatigue can be a separate issue, but think of it this way: look at the global response to Across the Spiderverse vs the MCU or DCEU. It's the writing that matters.
@@samcampbell5741 Exactly, there have been far more bad movies / shows than good since Endgame and until proven otherwise, I am going to quit watching anything made by Disney.. except Deadpool 3.
@@samcampbell5741 I just don’t really agree. I don’t think anything has gotten as bad as people make out. Then there’s always been parts of the MCU that just weren’t good in the first 3 phases. It’s always been the top tier propping up the rest and everything being good to bad. Im just tired of it all, in general. Love the weapons arbiter and think the work that went into Spiderverse is amazing, but I still just don’t care any more. Im tired of seeing superheroes. Period. Think a lot of people are feeling this and not able to acknowledge that because they’ve made it so much a part of their personality that it’s too much to process.
When the first 3 phases have Ant Man 2, Dark World, Age or Ultron, Iron Man 2, Cap 1, Thor 1
.. the quality has always varied. People are just hung up on the absolute highest of highs of the franchise
The problem with the president turning round and deciding 'fuck aliens' is that America (the world) is now going to go to war with the Scrulls. Which isn't that what Gravik wanted in the end anyway? So what did the good guys achieve?
Not sure if I’d put it dead last but it’s around there for sure. Props to Greg for being unhinged on this one. 😄
The MCU series have become the equivalent of the straight to video Disney sequels.
The only way I think they retroactively fix Emilia Clarke superpowers, and I'll admit, it's lazy and stupid as hell, is that the powers wore off. Somehow the DNA wasn't potent enough or there was an error in the machine, something like that.
So for Loki season 2, are you going to review it as a sequel or adjust Loki's position based on Season2
How did they get all the bad guys DNA if they were all dusted by Tony? Makes no sense
This episode was far more entertaining than 6 episodes of various lengths and, would you believe it, was made for less than 200 million dollars?!
I hate it because there's absolutely a cool story to tell here in either tv or film format and they dropped the ball
Top Tier show by you guys
Pretty bad outing for marvel. Been steadily losing faith since Shang Chi.
Nope, I just checked. 2hours and 3minutes when rhodey is crushed by the rocket Thanos fires at the avengers compound. He is bleeding red so he can't be a skrull in civil war.
That canopy scene in n endgame didn’t show want blood. Didn’t seem like he could move his legs tho. I know marvel doesn’t have this much foresight lol
Everything you need to know about Secret Invasion:
*"IT WASN'T THE RUSSIANS!"* - Ben Afleck
I think the budget was only that high because of reshoots
Rhodey can’t have been taken during Civil War because Gravik didn’t even come up with his plan yet he wasn’t even upset with Fury yet 😂
The show tells us Gravik only started his plan AFTER the blip and AFTER Fury had the Skrulls collect the blood after Endgame. Fury then dipped out and Gravik got upset
thus he started his plan
The creators of the show have no idea what they’re even talking about it’s CRAZY they put less thought into this plot than we have
I feel like I’ve been watching a different show to everyone else. This is exactly what I expected and wanted. I think people keep having wild expectations for plot points and jumping to crazy conclusions.
This is how i feel too
I'm confused with their new voting system, shouldn't this go second to last because Greg thinks it's higher than that?
Tim keeps bringing up constant fake out deaths, but there’s was only one. The other two deaths were actual deaths
I'm pretty sure the powers the super Skrulls aren't as strong as the source.
When's Predator in Review?
Can someone explain to me why every villain from every In Review film ever is on one giant list? It’s so unwieldy and weird. You guys barely keep the MCU rankings straight. Lol
It sucks that the last thing Talos did was break a window.
What are you guys gonna do regarding the new sag aftra guidelines about covering movies in podcast form?
I’ve never been able to jive with your MCU rankings but Secret Invasion being the absolute worst of the MCU is insane to me.
I’m astonished. Absolutely bewildered. Secret invasion is like some of the best media created not just by marvel but by anyone period. It’s beautiful, terrifying, subtle, adult, pent up, pitched up, amazing and just end of my seat whole time. It should be top 10 easy at least. Fek these guys. They suck. Got no taste. What they smoking
Series was ok, this review was awesome
all i can really say about Secret Invasion is apart from some great conversations Fury had with Rhodey, Priscilla & Talos, i really wish i'd watched this before Andor. it kinda ruined me for what i know Marvel & Star Wars shows can be.
The fact that avengers has been delayed means we’ve got another three years of kicking it’s feet meandering around with no direction, the first film that has any chance of meaningful story development is fantastic 4 and that’s still 2 years away
“The first film that has any chance of meaningful story development” you say that like they actually plan this stuff out, as if “do whatever and then build on what people respond to the most” hasn’t been the MO of this franchise since Phase 1.
"Fans weren't super happy with Love & Thunder."
Nope: That movie has a 76 audience on RT and a B+ on Cinemascore; most people liked it just fine. But because a tiny number of terminally online dudes have Prequels Brain about it and will continue railing against the film until they die, most of the noise about this generally popular movie sounds negative.
They told the show runners not to read the comics, they didn’t know certain details about major characters that needed to be set out clearly BEFORE filming. I think this is a little to do with the chapick overseeing the production and wanting it to be limited in episode run. I honestly didn’t hate it as much as others but I do think that’s because I didn’t read the comics so my expectations weren’t as high as others. Talos was done dirty.
Okay i only ask you guys of 3 things.....
I want 3 In Reviews which would just make Nick the most giddy-est of people's and i want his Happiness to radiate throughout this desolate land we can USA and then shine upon the world like a beacon of light Powering Supermans soul.
1. Lethal Weapon- a 5th is kinda on the way (see what happens)
2. The Mummy- for reals it's 1,2,3 in the ranking no butts about it.
3. PREPARE FOR A COMBO EFFECT- Predator and Aliens with AVP 1 and 2 in there and Prometheus and Covenant. Not enough Arnold in your In Reviews and i knots Nick agrees. Love you nick you're my favorite. #CZ #GregSux #KFAF
I was on this show’s side so hard in the first half, but then episodes 4 and 5 just kept losing steam before easily the worst finale any of these shows have yet had.
I usually cringe at hyperbolic statements like this, especially since I’ve been a big defender of the Multiverse Saga, but I feel this show has completely ruined Nick Fury’s character.
Just finished it, it wasn’t THAT bad, but it was disappointing. This needed an additional 6 episodes to be fleshed out, it needed to have avengers be skrulls as well. Rhodey was obviously going to be one as he wa the only superhero in the series
Greg can never leave 🎉
Gosh I wish SI was good, I really do. I have been on the MCU train since the start, but after Endgame, let's be honest, the quality is patchy at best, but also has the lowest lows, looking at Thor and Antman's last movies especially . But worse, why adapt these classic stories, if your going just ignore 90% of the source material. Endgame etc gets away with it by being arguably just as good or filled with such amazing moments, you forgive it, but oh lord, I could have just missed SI and it wouldn't of mattered at all sadly.....
This was the least excited i was for a mcu property in a while but i still expected it to be good because i havent been let down yet. Even throughout phase 4 and 5 when other people are bashing marvel for ot not being as good i think its actually been pretty darn good considering a post endgame world that needs to reestablish things. This is the first project for me to make me think marvel is losing their way. Secret invasion felt like the dceu put this out. It makes you question everything that youve seen in previous movies in not a good way, in what should be an absolute badass show featuring sam jack nick fury his character is all over the place, and to top it off i thought well even if they put the greater mcu world at risk by releasing this series maybe this show as a standalone is pretty great when you dont think about the greater implications. Sadly no the individula story at play is serviceable at best with whatever characters doing whatever things.
Not to say i thought this show was a total dumpster fire i did like some things, but wow the mcu has a lot of cleaning up to do after this one, or the more likely case they will probably act like this never happened.
I thought the Harvest was from the battle of New York?
This show has a great cast, could have been huge but was a giant let down I’m fine with calling this the biggest MCU miss ever & I’m a huge MCU fanboy
I thought the show was good, not great. I love to hate on the MCU sometimes, I'm a DC guy all the way... I'm shocked everyone is THIS down on it. It's not the worst of the MCU
@@boochtron I think this is the worst, as far as wasted potential, the comic book event was huge, this was nothing (meaningless)
Doctor Who did it better in two episodes (Zygon Invasion and Zygon Inversion) than this show did it 9.
This is my first MCU in review episode since Far From Home and I have absolutely no idea what the hell happened to your guys rankings. The list back then was at least arguable but what the hell is this Love and Thunder placement? Quantumania the best ant man movie? She Hulk in the top half? Guardians 3 the worst Guardians movie? Disgusting behavior.
I loved the acting. Story too much and too little at the same time .... AND 3 mins into the show I thought gravic was gonna end up being furys kid, then his wife ended up being a scrull.... THEN NOTHING ! they were so in love and secretive and alien and there's no baby or babies out there ? Get right out of here 😂
This show is the epitome of what the MCU has been post Endgame. Unnecessary overload of shows, quantity over quality, no connectivity, poorly written, poorly directed, just plain bad. It’s sad given what this universe used to be.
Also
The more they go through the plot, the more it starts to look like Marvel has stripped jack Ryan's Season 3 plot, but in a lame way...
Y’all really should have scrapped this for the Atom Eve special, it was actually great too.😭
I can't believe Tim thought the final battle between G'iah and Gravik was a high point of this series, it looked like complete trash. What a disappointing show.
Haha yeah that fight scene was terrible. Not sure what he's talking about.
I know this would cause problems, but I'd love a episode ranking everything, even if "unofficially", just by memory, having no recency bias. It's wild how up there Love and Thunder is. This was meh, but not the worst thing Marvel ever did imo.
The whole point of their rankings is that they rank them after seeing them for the first time, not by memory.
You think 17 is high? I think Ragnarok is too high. Love and Thunder is my favorite Thor movie. Not to shit on Ragnarok, it's really good, but not top 10 worthy. Love and Thunder might be top 10 worthy. I haven't ranked my MCU in a long time, also never included the shows in my ranking. I never watched their Guardians 3 review, I just watched the movie. I'm shocked it's so low. It was arguably the best Guardians movie
Does Andy laugh cuz Nick is so unfunny? Lol. Never pays attention unless it pertains to him & says same jokes over & over. Still love ya, Nick. 🤌😘
Oh, and the way they killed off Talos......WT actual F??? I didn't even realise he was dead till the next episode, it was so underplayed, i thought he was just badly injured. I thought I had missed something, I presumed something would happen in the next episode. What a wet fart ending for a great character......
The shot Andy was talking about with the CG stuff was from Far From Home
Yea I thought this was the only marvel show with huge stakes. For years fans demanded this and we get it and now you say you dont want it. If that's the case. This is cause they were trying to appease fans. Fans dont know what they want. They should've did there own thing regardless. I really liked this show and thought the intimate moments were amazing. The things surrounding it needed work. But the entire roadie calling out fury scene and furys wife scenes were amazing. I feel like we overlook the good and just complain about the ending or what we wanted that they didnt do
this is the first MCU show I haven't finished. Man, what a bummer.
There's a scene with Skrodey alone with the POTUS and instead of shape shifting and bombing Russia they get into a debate with a random military person in the next scene lol
The most annoying thing about this is what a waste of a story it is.
I think what happened is things like Secret Invasion were planned years ago when it wasn't certain that Disney would get X-Men and FF. Secret Invasion could easily have been an Infinity War or Civil War like crossover film, with big characters revealed as skrulls, and that was probably the intention. But then there was the perfect storm of Disney wanting to get on to FF and X-Men films, and also wanting to churn out a million movies and TV shows a year, so Secret Invasion got thrown on the TV pile.
It seems rushed as hell too. I would bet that the episode lengths were all closer to 45 minutes to an hour, because you can tell from the editing that a ton of dialogue has been cut out. Look at Gravik's monologue to Fury in the last episode - we're watching the back of his head for most of it, and it continually cuts to this awkwardly blocked shot behind the machine that looks like it was probably only intended as B-roll for quick cuts, but the editors needed more than one shot of the back of Gravik's head so we keep cutting back to it. That tells me that his monologue needed to be changed dramatically.
There are tons more weird editing moments - an odd shot of Fury reacting at Maria Hill's funeral which is abruptly cut for example. It's so weird. This show definitely got gutted in post production for some reason.
Taylis, Tal-os, Tail-os, Tellos, Tall-os, Teletubbie, Tallywacker, Talos.
That is the problem with the show . The most interesting thing in the whole show is in the last five minutes. The president calling for the killing of aliens and people not always getting it right could of made for a great show . Instead it’s in a montage in the last five minutes
This show is a prime example of a piece of media that posits a lot of interesting questions, but is wholly unequipped and uninterested in answering any of them. It infers a lot of questions about characters, their motivations, their potential for growth...but every single character in this show either ends up exactly where they started, or dead. I can all but guarantee we will never see or hear about G'aih or Pricilla ever again, and no one will ever reference anything that happened in this show. At it's best it's a middling show that failed to justify its own existence, was a poor use of the talents of those involved, and it retroactively makes past MCU projects connected to it worse. There are a handful of MCU projects I don't like, but this is one of only two I would classify as straight up bad (the other being Thor: Love & Thunder, which is easily the single worst thing Marvel has ever produced and even thinking about it pisses me off).
Also, no one has said Rhodey got got after Civil War. The director gave a super non-committal, bullshit answer to a straightforward question because he doesn't know and can't say definitively. It's after Endgame, because if it's not that fucks up SO MUCH, and it doesn't matter because even if post-Civil War was the intention the reaction has been so negative they'll retcon it.
Tim no matter how hype you try to make it seem that ending fight was HORRIBLE !!
In terms of ranking I’d say it’s just about what if? Because I hated that show so much.
I definitely was disappointed by the end, given that I thought this was going to be genuinely great and it was just good.
But there is something that I am constantly surprised by is the comparison to the comic book story. Maybe it was because I only read the main storyline, but I was really surprised at how much I disliked the comics. I thought they were some of the worst writing in a major comic event I've ever read. It was constantly just pure convenient and weird reveals. I really didn't like it. But everyone else seems to like it.
So, it's been the opposite experience for me in terms of the adaptation. Most people seem to think they dropped the ball on adapting a great comic. I thought they took one of the worst comics and made a mostly enjoyable show.
That said, it felt like the show was rushed in almost every way except for the visuals. I totally get why people aren't satisfied. I ultimately did like it a lot more than I didn't. It just could have been a lot better than it was.
Just to be sure I'm not communicating anything I didn't intend to, I am fully acknowledging how much this is just my personal take on the show and the comic. My being surprised all the time about others' views on the comic is just my not being able to see it from their point of view. Not panning anybody for liking the comic. I'm actually glad people like it, because it means a comic team is having their work appreciated.
I love the comic adaptation for everything the MCU has done a lot more in the comics. Secret Invasion I LOVE. I love Secret Invasion stuff in the avengers cartoon more than this show honestly. I still liked it more than these guys though. I wouldn't put it dead last.
this was tremendous content folks, good work salvaging this nonsense.
I wonder if the writers of Secret Invasion realized they kinda screwed up the MCU with the writing of the last episode