Sick video. These kinds of builds is why I got into poe 1 in the forst place and im glad they're still here. Just saw an 800 div gemling attribute stack build and its too hilarious to not go for.
I LOVE THIS BUILD. This build's DPS is nothing compared to Archmage, not worrying about getting nerfed. Besides, it's an easy way to kill your character. If you go too fast or stop too long.
I copied the build and got the cheaper “Rise of the Phonix” shield. The fact that you have to ramp up the regeneration takes some practice but once you've got it down it works quite well. Now I just have to find the same chest I have now with +Spirit as it's really slow without blink.
you do have to cast it yourself also it affects your movement speed in fact (but as its instant, not that much), and its not that good as CWDT in poe1, way worse and cost much more to start tbh
Literally just made a channel to make a video on this interaction and then I see this. You beat me to it man, GG Did you try it full ES-based before landing on the recoup stacking Demon Stitcher version? I'm personally really loving the ability to just run at full speed while casting, but the cast rate does suffer a bit as a result.
@@Deranged_Engineering the math just wasn’t where I wanted it with full-es and casting the curse has no movement penalty when tapping instead of holding
@@imnphil Yeah it's hard to get the ES version to feel good. I was running around with like 50% fire res for a while because my ES/energy gain wasn't high enough to self trigger properly hahaha. About the movement penalty when tapping, surely you still get slowed for the cast time of the curse right? Just tested that in-game and I definitely do, but I have no investment into cast speed whatsoever so that might be why. Great video either way man, cheers!
I've been using a ES based version of this, it's definitely not as tanky but it's been fun. There is a major issue that pyromantic pact can crit you about 10% of the time and that hit ignites you as well. (It can't crit, I was misreading what was happening) The upside is it's all rare items with the exception of an against the darkness jewel
@@Sorza-m8i just letting you know it cannot crit you, but ignite chance is poe2 is based on what % of your life a hit does, and this can get reduced by "increased ailment threshhold" where 100% increased threshhold halves the chance you get ignited. if its the major flaw with your build, I recommend anointing fan the flames
@@imnphil Gotcha, I thought I was accidently double setting off the pact which might have been igniting me or my Life+ES was too high then. I ended up using an 60% reduced ignite base with against the darkness that has reduced ignite duration + max FR. Could've saved myself some trouble if I knew that's what was happening
@@NaeemLakhani the more hp you have the more fire res you can have, so at 3k hp is stop near 80-82 but as you get to 4/5k life you can get to 85. It’s not a BAD stat, you just really don’t want to go all the way to 90%
Hello, I decided to put together your build. A huge problem arose, I can not start it. Recovery 87%, since I have not bought gems yet. Health 3689. Flame of Fire 728. Resistance 84. My energy barrier is at 1089. I inserted stones into the curse, it consumes 829. The question is, how to start the build? How much recovery do I need at least? And how much energy is needed for the meta-skill?
@@raphael0424 remember tooltip doesn’t include the “15% elemental damage recouped” node so it’s technically 15 higher. Also 117 is good enough to play the build even if you are including that math, just adds 1 second to the ramp time, meaning you need to be slightly more careful between packs and looting
@@imnphil thanks bud, i just upgraded amulet from 20% to 27% and broke 3.1k life, feels much smoother, still dying though, and not sure if im playing it properly. i have to ramp a bit before i start the map. hungry for more attributes badly.
@@mrbungle3846 yeah like I said in the guide, it feels like ass before 3.2k life. And I didn’t stop dying in t15s till 4k life, which is a lot of investment
what other skills do you think we can play around this setup man? And good luck, hopefully this will not get nerfed. I'm running infernalist but with the generic summoner setup atm, but I was originally planning to go pure spell self cast once I farmed quite a bit. Just waiting as well for someone smart to explain how that infernal node is. Thanks man!
@@DatLe-pz5pz ruclips.net/video/AYWg6b5Ppkg/видео.htmlsi=Qfkj8M3jd7i4ESIP this guy has an es based version, bigger max hit but bad recovery and u have to wait between casts
Hey. Can tell pls how to move on it properly? Rotation. Just use bind barrier as move skill on LMB and spam frostbite? And wondering how to make it more tanky, cuz got killed for nothing few times😅
only way to make it tanky is to stack life, and not walk in melee range against recovery stopper rares, as you will insta die to your own skills. my build is starting to get pretty beefy with 4300 life, but its the #1 issue ive been trying to solve this whole time and I was hoping other people would figure something out but nobody has
Hey Imnphil amazing work! after learning this cool build I was wondering if I can help theory craft with you to make it even better! Here are some notes I wrote done for potential powerfuls, let me know if you are interested to disucss, and whats the best way of reaching you? (Discord/Email?) 1. Using Darkness Jewel For 4-5+ Max Fire Res + Max Life% (free up sockets for more 2% life) 2. Consider Demon Form For +6 All Spell Ranks 3. Combo With Skill That Proc With Faster Attack & Triggers 4. Using Other Elemental Skills E.g. Lighitning & Scale With Archmage + Max Mana? 5. Ultra Support Auto Casting Aura Bot? 6. Using Weapon Set 2 Skill Points For Curses?
1. I would do this if I could remove soul cores out of my already near perfect items :( 2. demon form is just so squishy without my shield + I lose 6% life from moving those nodes, id only do it when trying to 1 shot a boss 3. there are some ways you can break poe, im trying to avoid abusing things that might actually get patched out 4. comet just has such high base damage, and the crit base is so high, it works well with witch pathing. Remember my build needs LOW mana to work, archmage just doesnt function with my build. 5. I mean I guess LOL 6. Always scared to weapon swap with how tight the window is for keeping my recoup up at all times
@ there is genuinely no sacrifice for blink no matter what IMO. It would be better to add a second barrier invocation that casts other debuffs than blasphemy, but losing blink feels so terrible
So im a noob, never played poe before, and am not flaming - I actually think this is soooooo cool - but I'm curious regarding the comments suggesting this is OP or will be nerfed - am I missing something? My builds so far lategame kill bosses much faster than this, and probably clear faster as well. They are nowhere near as tanky, but is it really that insane? Seems more insanely cool to me than insanely powerful. If someone more experienced than me could provide insight it would be sick!
so far ggg has tried really hard to reign in people using triggers to cast comet like all the cof and coc builds since this is another trigger comet build chances are high it gets adjusted
@@mopanda81 something feels weird to me about setting up trigger combos and then nerfing them for being too trigger-y even if they aren't OP. but I'm also a noob so what do I know
After seeing this make me wonder how good you could make a build similar to this but using the fireflower amulet and instead of using it with minions you actually take the damage and have the barrier invocation cast something like fireball with high ignite chance and would just be able to spam the invocation cause you would ignite a ton of times if it even works I'm sure not a practical build but would be funny to see. This is the closest thing I've seen to a cast when damage taken build and that's all I play anymore on poe1 but I don't play wardloop I have fun doing my own shit and it's always funny playing with friends.
A+++ took about 4 divine to make the hole kit with 5 slot ability's TY minions where getting boring lmao even if its not as strong way more fun. would enjoy and update video on the build or up date to gear on the link. one thing i would add try not to have any max mana or it will break the build if you have to much
I was thinking this as well. You would lose some survivability so it’s probably not as good but it would do more damage and look way cooler haha. I think losing the shield would be the worst part.
@woofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoof the movement speed benefit is really good too you know. But I'll try to test this out since I'm already on demon form build it might be easier to transition
Maximum life = energy gain due to how the gloves work. In the description I tried to warn against it below 80, because this is not an easy build to get off the ground😂
Good build. But this build feels too risky with the 1-portal mechanic of Poe2. I tried this build but when i loot item, i lose the recoup and forgot to make anything work again and die😂
My life recovery speed not like yours and i have everything the same as you, except my recoup is at 98% and life 3100hp, so im just instantly dying after cast . Its not recovering life as on your video
Sick video. These kinds of builds is why I got into poe 1 in the forst place and im glad they're still here. Just saw an 800 div gemling attribute stack build and its too hilarious to not go for.
“can't see anything, that's the fun of path of exile.”
I really appreciate the slower, more engaging gameplay.
I LOVE THIS BUILD. This build's DPS is nothing compared to Archmage, not worrying about getting nerfed. Besides, it's an easy way to kill your character. If you go too fast or stop too long.
How much DPS does this inflict to my graphics card?
$500 per hour of cast time
In this episode of "Builds that wont survive the next patch":
😂😂😂😂
why wouldn't it?
Amazing build and video thanks for this!
I copied the build and got the cheaper “Rise of the Phonix” shield. The fact that you have to ramp up the regeneration takes some practice but once you've got it down it works quite well. Now I just have to find the same chest I have now with +Spirit as it's really slow without blink.
“Salutations Exile”
is that build full autocasting like CWDT in poe1? Or it is necessary to press any skills during cleaning?
you do have to cast it yourself also it affects your movement speed in fact (but as its instant, not that much), and its not that good as CWDT in poe1, way worse and cost much more to start tbh
Thanks for the great build.
Does the max mana option hinder this build?
Is the higher the energy shield, the better?
I wonder what happens if you pick zealoth and chaos innoculate in passive tree...
Literally just made a channel to make a video on this interaction and then I see this. You beat me to it man, GG
Did you try it full ES-based before landing on the recoup stacking Demon Stitcher version? I'm personally really loving the ability to just run at full speed while casting, but the cast rate does suffer a bit as a result.
@@Deranged_Engineering the math just wasn’t where I wanted it with full-es and casting the curse has no movement penalty when tapping instead of holding
@@imnphil Yeah it's hard to get the ES version to feel good. I was running around with like 50% fire res for a while because my ES/energy gain wasn't high enough to self trigger properly hahaha. About the movement penalty when tapping, surely you still get slowed for the cast time of the curse right? Just tested that in-game and I definitely do, but I have no investment into cast speed whatsoever so that might be why.
Great video either way man, cheers!
I've been using a ES based version of this, it's definitely not as tanky but it's been fun. There is a major issue that pyromantic pact can crit you about 10% of the time and that hit ignites you as well. (It can't crit, I was misreading what was happening) The upside is it's all rare items with the exception of an against the darkness jewel
@@Sorza-m8i just letting you know it cannot crit you, but ignite chance is poe2 is based on what % of your life a hit does, and this can get reduced by "increased ailment threshhold" where 100% increased threshhold halves the chance you get ignited.
if its the major flaw with your build, I recommend anointing fan the flames
@@imnphil Gotcha, I thought I was accidently double setting off the pact which might have been igniting me or my Life+ES was too high then. I ended up using an 60% reduced ignite base with against the darkness that has reduced ignite duration + max FR. Could've saved myself some trouble if I knew that's what was happening
how much would this build cost ?
why soul core so much max fire res if you are stopping at 83ish anyway?
@@NaeemLakhani the more hp you have the more fire res you can have, so at 3k hp is stop near 80-82 but as you get to 4/5k life you can get to 85.
It’s not a BAD stat, you just really don’t want to go all the way to 90%
Hello, I decided to put together your build. A huge problem arose, I can not start it. Recovery 87%, since I have not bought gems yet. Health 3689. Flame of Fire 728. Resistance 84. My energy barrier is at 1089. I inserted stones into the curse, it consumes 829. The question is, how to start the build? How much recovery do I need at least? And how much energy is needed for the meta-skill?
@@Sega-c3t you need above 100% recoup as life for the build to function.
All nodes + 20% or so from amulet is 100 and 110 is recommended
@@imnphil Thank you very much for your help
What did you play until you had enough level or money to play this? And thank you for the guide.
arsonists till 85
@@imnphil Thank you, do you think it’s viable to level up with fire skills?
@@vinrubio I tried to clear act 2 and 3 as fireball with ignite based nodes and it was the worst poe experience of my life :D so idk
Hey, how do you get so much recoup ? I tried to reciprocate your build but only reach 117% with the same stat in the amulet and same jewels
@@raphael0424 remember tooltip doesn’t include the “15% elemental damage recouped” node so it’s technically 15 higher. Also 117 is good enough to play the build even if you are including that math, just adds 1 second to the ramp time, meaning you need to be slightly more careful between packs and looting
@@imnphil yea its totally playable, build is cool btw, was just wondering if I missed a jewel but it doesnt seems so, thanks for answering
how much damage recoup do you have? ive swapped to this build, and its sketchy at times, im sat at 103% recoup. how do you generate so much es too?
@@mrbungle3846 I’m at 115 tooltip atm, amulet 28% and every jewel at 4%
Es gain is based on life total, more life= more es
@@imnphil thanks bud, i just upgraded amulet from 20% to 27% and broke 3.1k life, feels much smoother, still dying though, and not sure if im playing it properly. i have to ramp a bit before i start the map. hungry for more attributes badly.
@@mrbungle3846 yeah like I said in the guide, it feels like ass before 3.2k life. And I didn’t stop dying in t15s till 4k life, which is a lot of investment
@@imnphil i hear you, ill focus on adding more life in. cheers for the help dude.
@@imnphil I think that’s really the only problem with this build. It’s for the very wealthy. Just the jewels alone he’s got probably 120 divine
what other skills do you think we can play around this setup man? And good luck, hopefully this will not get nerfed.
I'm running infernalist but with the generic summoner setup atm, but I was originally planning to go pure spell self cast once I farmed quite a bit. Just waiting as well for someone smart to explain how that infernal node is. Thanks man!
Ice nova with astral projection
It will get nerfed
Can this build work with Ghostwrithe and energy build?
@@DatLe-pz5pz ruclips.net/video/AYWg6b5Ppkg/видео.htmlsi=Qfkj8M3jd7i4ESIP this guy has an es based version, bigger max hit but bad recovery and u have to wait between casts
bro im new. do i need to level up a new character or can i respec everthing to it
@@qasimsinan3436 i would advise against new players playing this build, it’s extremely complex
before i start to build, i need to ask
what is your pc spec?
ryzen 7 3700x
32g ram
1080TI
Meg x 570 motherboard
@imnphil ok my pc might survive
thank you
Hey. Can tell pls how to move on it properly? Rotation. Just use bind barrier as move skill on LMB and spam frostbite? And wondering how to make it more tanky, cuz got killed for nothing few times😅
only way to make it tanky is to stack life, and not walk in melee range against recovery stopper rares, as you will insta die to your own skills.
my build is starting to get pretty beefy with 4300 life, but its the #1 issue ive been trying to solve this whole time and I was hoping other people would figure something out but nobody has
@@imnphil Maybe try to respec full lightning for using spark somehow? xD
@ if you watch my skill showcase, spark bugs out and I can’t use archmage or mana stacking stuff for lightning
Hey Imnphil amazing work! after learning this cool build I was wondering if I can help theory craft with you to make it even better!
Here are some notes I wrote done for potential powerfuls, let me know if you are interested to disucss, and whats the best way of reaching you? (Discord/Email?)
1. Using Darkness Jewel For 4-5+ Max Fire Res + Max Life% (free up sockets for more 2% life)
2. Consider Demon Form For +6 All Spell Ranks
3. Combo With Skill That Proc With Faster Attack & Triggers
4. Using Other Elemental Skills
E.g. Lighitning & Scale With Archmage + Max Mana?
5. Ultra Support Auto Casting Aura Bot?
6. Using Weapon Set 2 Skill Points For Curses?
1. I would do this if I could remove soul cores out of my already near perfect items :(
2. demon form is just so squishy without my shield + I lose 6% life from moving those nodes, id only do it when trying to 1 shot a boss
3. there are some ways you can break poe, im trying to avoid abusing things that might actually get patched out
4. comet just has such high base damage, and the crit base is so high, it works well with witch pathing. Remember my build needs LOW mana to work, archmage just doesnt function with my build.
5. I mean I guess LOL
6. Always scared to weapon swap with how tight the window is for keeping my recoup up at all times
@@imnphil maybe we could add blasphemy for auto aura like enfeeble too? this will sacrifice blink likely
@ there is genuinely no sacrifice for blink no matter what IMO.
It would be better to add a second barrier invocation that casts other debuffs than blasphemy, but losing blink feels so terrible
So im a noob, never played poe before, and am not flaming - I actually think this is soooooo cool - but I'm curious regarding the comments suggesting this is OP or will be nerfed - am I missing something? My builds so far lategame kill bosses much faster than this, and probably clear faster as well. They are nowhere near as tanky, but is it really that insane? Seems more insanely cool to me than insanely powerful. If someone more experienced than me could provide insight it would be sick!
Very possible! What are you playing? Let's see it.
so far ggg has tried really hard to reign in people using triggers to cast comet like all the cof and coc builds since this is another trigger comet build chances are high it gets adjusted
@@Sethekk well right now im just playing a boring ol' skele archer spam build with hellhound. Nothing special but certainly does a lot of damage
@@mopanda81 something feels weird to me about setting up trigger combos and then nerfing them for being too trigger-y even if they aren't OP. but I'm also a noob so what do I know
After seeing this make me wonder how good you could make a build similar to this but using the fireflower amulet and instead of using it with minions you actually take the damage and have the barrier invocation cast something like fireball with high ignite chance and would just be able to spam the invocation cause you would ignite a ton of times if it even works I'm sure not a practical build but would be funny to see. This is the closest thing I've seen to a cast when damage taken build and that's all I play anymore on poe1 but I don't play wardloop I have fun doing my own shit and it's always funny playing with friends.
what rolls are important on the gloves?
all of them, but cast speed < es< life < sacrifice
@@imnphil Awesome, thanks for the reply!
A+++ took about 4 divine to make the hole kit with 5 slot ability's TY minions where getting boring lmao even if its not as strong way more fun. would enjoy and update video on the build or up date to gear on the link. one thing i would add try not to have any max mana or it will break the build if you have to much
it is eating my life before my shield. what do i wrong?
ur probably thinking of the gloves, gotta ramp slowly and comet casts give more recovery than curse casts, they are just scarier
how do u cast spells without having mana? or does it use infernal flame
Well kinda hard to keep dying when maps dont keep up, good looking build thogh
I got 15 divs and im sick of minions, that enough to make a real juicy variant of this?
my current gear was bought for 350ish ex, but the prices likley went up
@@imnphil ty. yeah well rolled mahuxotls are starting to get pricey but it is what it is.
is this build SSF viable?
sounds like a scary build i like it haha
have you tried this with the permanent demon form node? the one that limits you to 10 demon flame
I was thinking this as well. You would lose some survivability so it’s probably not as good but it would do more damage and look way cooler haha.
I think losing the shield would be the worst part.
@woofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoof the movement speed benefit is really good too you know. But I'll try to test this out since I'm already on demon form build it might be easier to transition
My dream build hopefully its not get shit on “again”
cool interaction
i do have a question how do u cast so fast? im trying to replicate this at lvl 60 and its no where near that fast 😭
Maximum life = energy gain due to how the gloves work.
In the description I tried to warn against it below 80, because this is not an easy build to get off the ground😂
@ fair enough but thanks for the fast response
Good build. But this build feels too risky with the 1-portal mechanic of Poe2. I tried this build but when i loot item, i lose the recoup and forgot to make anything work again and die😂
Hi, can you say please, how you blink?
Blink is a spirit gem that replaces dodge roll with a teleport, check gem section to see it
Yo, viable after patch ?
Does this work with bloodmage? or you gotta be Infernalist?
i think with a really high budget you could implement that and demon form. Ima reroll to try that.
No need to invest time in something that going to be nerfed to the ground
@@VinJowYou dont decide that for someone else. Respecs are cheaper anyways
@@evaluator8906 I don't decide about anything, i'm telling you, that's different.
@@VinJow What about having fun? We all start a new league after 3 months anyways. So the invesment should not be about time. Its the fun
This in demon form will probably send an sms to ggg engineers.
My life recovery speed not like yours and i have everything the same as you, except my recoup is at 98% and life 3100hp, so im just instantly dying after cast . Its not recovering life as on your video
@@jod_4836 try getting your recoup to 110% or higher. Jewel sockets 4% each 28% on amulet
@@imnphilthanks, ill try to make it
not working dont know why done everythink, have 100% and skills not coming out
you'll need to trigger it,it's not like cast on ignite,you will have to cast it manually
take a look at the video,it's his left mouse botten skill
Thats manual-caster
Real... My finger was broken.. Piano Man build.
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Now that looks fun.
nope