basically any minion build atm: stack +minion on scepter/helmet/amulet and stack as much spirit as possible at scepter/amulet/body. Buy +dps jewels for minions, get node for +minions. There is no hidden mechanics, there is just few gem interactions. It all absolutely doesn't matter, what matter is what kind of minions you want to play (beside warriors/stunners/healers). Still this is not zoom-zoom build, playing minons means you will be below average curve of farming/progression.
Imagine the chaos raise spectre will bring to all these builds XD Cant wait to see people experimenting with all the pokemon... I mean all the spectres...
Fantastic video! Pretty much nailed all the minions you could play outside totems. I leveled an infernalist witch which went amazingly well before the nerfs. Haven’t played since after because I wanted to play other minions. Now I am doing a Chronomancer Frost mage skellie build which has been kind of meh. It definitely feels slow for me and the dmg is meh. It’s hard to build defensives in trees when I have to continuously farm up more minion dmg and crit and all of that every new zone.
I switched from arsonist to snipers a few days ago. I just hit t3 and am smashing maps. I've run through 10 vaal orbs and have got horrible luck on 4 slot gems only 2 of 10 converted. The one thing I kept in is corrosion for my sniper. It melts bosses armor. Having a blast so far in this game. Great vid and tips.
@@Cedrinya im running t15 with arsonists, dying once in a while but clearing maps pretty fast. tried ascendery points 7. and 8. today with my friend.... we died at the last boss because we couldnt see anything but fire and lightning (my friend is a lightning mage)
@@Cedrinya because he switched from my build to a sniper build to run t3 maps, i just told that its pretty easy for me with his earlier build. Best regards :)
on the sniper build, you missed the point, that the dudes are switching the gear only in for bosses. Mapping works with regular maxxed stats and 75% shield
yea exactly this. I'm playing the skeletal Archer build on t16+ and I haven't died for days. Its super tanky and you CAN switch items for bosses, but you dont even need to.
Your minions are obviously going to be squishy if you don't cap their resistances. My Arsonists or Snipers have 83% ele res(Everything from tree) and 80% phys dmg mitigation(60% from Jewels and 20% from tree). They're not dying to anything. If you're gonna run squishier minions like Snipers or Arsonists you have to compensate by solving their defenses. It's kinda unfair to rank them as weaker because they're dying when the solution is present right in the skill tree while ignoring it.
@@ozarka1110 Not really. My minions almost exclusively die to getting outranged by me and de-spawning. There are some exceptions where my minions die to things from the level 3 Arbiter endgame boss. But my Dog who has Meat Shield linked dies there too and I'm pretty sure Reavers also would die to him. My minions might also die to chaos damage because I haven't capped their resistances, they only have 23% from the tree in my build. But that's rare and I've never found it a problem. Even when I open T18 6-mod Breaches with 40% delirium and a bunch of Chayula Chaos dmg monsters my minions don't die outside of getting stuck in doors and despawning as I try to push the breach. What minions predominantly die to is Elemental and Physical damage. Especially physical damage because no one builds for it. If you want your minions to survive Boss slams and breaches et.c. you need to get their physical damage mitigation up since most people only get 20% from the tree and call it a day. Red Ruby Jewels can provide 15% minion phys mitigation in addition to 7% increased block which has been my focus. This allows you to easily block cap your build and give your minions 80% total phys mitigation allowing them to tank all boss slam attacks.
Meanwhile a monk with one swipe of his weapon the mobs vanished faster than I can blink. Witch is crippled this EA. No specters and minions bug out in doors/narrow hallways/stairs.
In all fairness, we stand behind minions, they facetank shit. My friends (all 93+) they keep raging when they die on t15 due to small idiotic mistakes. While we are pretty much immortals. Slower and consistent rather than fast and prone to errors
@@CHIPICHIPICHAPACHAAPA When you see someone be right but in the next half they completely ruin their comment to the point u wish they were wrong just because..
i play a mixed minion version build where i connect multiple minion with each other. So i have various types of dmg output combined (poison, fire (hound), armor pen, stuns, phys-dmg, elemental dmg / shock. For my backline I play 1 cleric for heal, 4-5 Snipers for armor pen, 2 storm-mages for shocking (dmg stacking for other minions aswell). For my frontline i play 5 reavers and 2 brutes (stuns enemys and for more armor break) for clearing all mobs. Its overall a solid build and i think that ggg intended the minion build should look like a combination of many minions together. You should try it out :)
problem is unique support skills. minmaxing a single minion makes more sense on paper, and swapping them out for different maps/fights if you have to but that's a pain. i'm not maxed out and my 2 warriors are going close to 25k dps alone, each.
Last night I switched from Arsonist to Reavers, trying to copy what you had laid out in a previous video. It seems like the worst decision I ever made. I'm almost certain its me being bad at the game, but I went from killing everything so fast to now watching my reavers respawn counter as I'm trying to dodge a screen full of monsters alone. I made the switch at level 70, while I was just starting to do low level maps. I'm sure some of my gear isn't ideal, but having spent most of my gold to respec has left me with no option but to struggle through content that I was once destroying. Trying to figure out how to work my way back into Arsonists without losing all the tankiness.
The exact same thing happened to me when I tried doing the swtich. Had to respec everything and rebuy all of my gear I was clearing T15 w/ ars and could barely clear a T1 with reavers I still think about trying it out again, cause I have WAY better gear and I think it could work better this way The thing is, if you're not that strong, reavers can't handle everything by themselves and youre left alone w/ little energy shield tanking a bunch of mobs I believe this issue could be addressed with more attention on the videos. I still cant judge by myself if reavers is in fact better, but i know for sure that arsonists are WAY better for leveling and budget builds, solely bc of the safety you get from their range plus raging spirits
Tried the same thing today. Respec'd and got new armor/energy gear. Thank god I saved my last gear. Tried both Reavers + Frost Mage + Snipers + Priest and all sorts of combos. Can't survive when minions are trapped in small ass pathways. They may be great in open areas where Reavers can have free roam, but in small dungeons with the most narrowest of doorways and pathways, they suck ass. Arsonists are great because they have range so even if they get trapped, you can just run back to them and they're start bombing everything coming their way. If reavers could throw their damn weapons at enemies, then maybe but for now, until GGG makes minions be able to bypass narrow passageways and door frames, then this build is not great.
I switched from arstonit to reaves in mid 50s.. still lvling but ars def felt little faster, but I am getting way less FPS drop with the reavers sooo thats a plus i guess haha
I originally spent a lot respeccing to this Reaver's build and I kept dying doing Maps in areas where it was mostly narrow doorways and narrow passageways since they would get stuck in doorways. I found another similar build on Moba, that was Reavers + Frost Mage, but mainly Frost Mage and some Reavers. I did add an additional Storm Mage and when I have more spirit, I was thinking of adding a couple of clerics to the mix. But this build had 15 frost mages and 4 Reavers and this guy was clearing Tier 18, and so far, I like it.....the more Frost Mages means even if they get stuck in the doorway, they can still do some range when I kite the enemy back to them. Plus, their "Frost Bomb" is mana cheap and when there's more Frost Mages, you can spam that to freeze enemies on the go, which makes it easier for your Reavers to kill the front line enemies faster. For "bosses"....the cold curse + frost bombs come in really handy. I just need to find gear with more spirit on them so I can have more minions (that get stuck in doorways, which seriously, this game needs to improve minion pathing, which Blizzard's D4 has seriously improved a lot). And don't use "Enrage" on Reavers, because....yes, they do more damage, but it's a ticking time bomb for Reavers, as after Enrage ends, your Reavers will die naturally, which is horrible in a boss fight, especially if the passive specs don't have faster revives for minions. Also, my former Arsonists were throwing firebombs 1/sec like mad and I had them spec'd so that each grenade had a wide area dmg, so even if they miss the enemy, the explosions would kill them off quickly.
My arsonist have 15k dps pre buffs, I do not even have the +3 gem yet, also I can stop time because not infernalist but chronomancer so I just watch bosses die and my minions literally eat them why they cannot do anything.
Ive done a couple t16 juiced maps with arsonists. I havent personally had any issue with them dying. But i also run a spirit stacking build with almost 800 spirit, so i have 18-19 arsonists that just melt everything.
Thanks for reviewing. In my opinion, Storm Mage Skeleton is the best aoe mob clearing when lightning spark nearby mob. It gonna chain and call other to it. Btw sniper Skeleton is the best on Boss fight. I just curse boss to slow it and rolling around. After that sniper skeleton will do the best part of it❤❤
I never had an issue with arsonists dying really, 2 skeletons where enough to tank. 1 cleric and maxed resistances and some chaos resistance are enough. And i do rippy as F T16`s with radiation and corruption in maxed out bosses. Yeah compared to other minions they are not as tanky but resistances are king.
As for me who played half of the campaign with arsonists+raging spirits+flame wall and always felt lack of dps found out the best combo for any infernalist: every 5 reavers (+35%dmg +feeding frenzy without negative atkspeed) should be complemented by 1 sniper (+poison on aa +corrosion) and 1 storm mage (100% shock chance + 50% shock spread within 2,5m) and 1 cleric. Gas bomb for applying corrosion to priority target and I use pain offering(persistense+40%aoe) and bone offering(mana pool) + vulnerability(35% curse power) only on bosses. This composition's dps do magical things against any enemy. Also hellhound would detonate the gas cloud when get into it so you have not only armor shred also a huge blast not forget shocked enemies take more damage. After I made that build on Act 1 cruel no boss last longer than 1 minute :D
Hey @Goblin-Inc some tech for you that I haven't seen around - Conduit on the passive tree lets charges you generate go to your minions. Using sniper's Mark gets you frenzy, and profane ritual gets you power charges. Both have some good supports (profusion, overabundance, less duration). My reaver build very quickly gets up to 3/3 charges during mapping. On bosses, you can easily get the frenzies but the powers are harder (no corpses). It's a lot of buttons, but hey, your minions are fighting for you, least you can do is use some buttons to help them out. THere's probably a 'Cast on minion death' setup that semi-automates charge generation depending on how quickly you clear, but I'm SSF so I don't really have the spirit to justify it just yet.
so good this video, i am 87 and got 6 divines, played snipers, arsonists and now i thoought what next. i ve seen all the builds and now you just make a video about the pro and cons, which is mega useful ! i was short before taking the majjestic build but as you said i think its true, we need also be practical and tanky in playing, very good content! what you d advise me to invest my divines on first, when i take your build?
I prefer brutes over reavers for my mix build. They are way tankier and they have a really strong aoe. If you go full melee, they stun so fast that the aoe explosion is always happening. The best part is that you can add the support to break full armor on heaby stuns, literally you will always have enemies without armor. Give them 25% gain fire damage, 30% gain fire against ignited, break armor on heavy stun and they will fit perfectly in a fire build. If you play reavers, then you need to add snipers to break armor and you need to be enraging them if you want them to outdamage brutes that spam their ability automatically.
I love brutes as well! They're my favorite minion. They are fantastic in difficult content. Incredibly tanky, high damage on stun. Problem is, in high end content they can't quite match the boss damage of other minions, and in farming content they're just a bit slow. I do want to spend some more time on them though, they're such a sick unit there's gotta be something good for them
@Goblin-Inc they have petter dps than reavers if you compare dps to spirit cost. I think the smaller minion count is a benefit due to the minions clunky AI. I'm also using a hybrid build of brutes and arsonist, but minions are so close together that I think most hybrids builds should work. I plan to switch to brutes/snipers or brutes/frost. The frontline and backline uses different support gems, and it makes the builds way more tankier.
try take brutes with infernal legion, and spend few skill points on minions fire resistance. if you have spare spirit that was not enough for another brute, take few clerics for them. also y might want to take some passives for max xp of minions, and it works amazing. brutes are lacking in clearing trash, but with infernal legion trash perish by themselves
Hello, I enjoy your videos, but just wanted to note that your mic audio might be kind of low or the music audio might be high. I turn up my volume to hear you, then when the transition music plays my ears get blasted. Either way, thank you for your well structured videos... PoE2 has been a huge game to tackle and your videos help. 👍👍
I’ve been experimenting with hybrid reaver and frost mages, it improves clear speed significantly. Looking forward to see what support gems you chose for the hybrid!
@@johnjohnmtm did yyou read the question? Yea in the vid he says, "reavers don't need feeding frenzy" then posts a build in the description with reavers using Feeding Frenzy.
8:48 for clarification I have to say we dont die in T16-18+ Maps at all with our setup, I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding as Goblin Inc makes great D4 guides and now POE2 guides, and likely didnt get time to see the full MOM + 12% Mana Gained Per Monster Killed unique combo we have for the build, which means that we have infinite mana and does not take dmg to our hp 95% of the time with 2400+ mana, the builds also have a number of variants for bossing and mapping all tested in all T18 contents (we also take down any uber T18 boss down in 3-4s now, will update on latest setup today!)
Hello man I hope you are doing well! I have enjoyed following your content both in d4 and poe2. I would definitely like to learn more about the setup's defenses and how it performs in high tier maps. Tbh 2400 mana sounds quite low as traditional es/amrour builds typically have 6k es that gets doubles to 12k from grim feast, and then you also have 1k life putting you at 13k ehp. There might be something I'm missing though with the tankiness! I'm curious, with the version that you're saying can do high tier maps without dying, is that with or without the 2 uniques? Also are there any other major defensive layers beyond mom? I enjoy your content and look forward to learning more about this build!
@mattjesticgaming the Es build is better and cheaper but I appreciate your content and the creativity, I just stacked ES with Grim feast and have 9k ES, 35 armor, capped res and +100 rarity. Only lacking in hp but my build cost total perhaps 5 to 10 divines....I clear t18 with little trouble unless my pain offering fucks up on bosses since I play controller
I want to see more build with variety of minions one thing I was looking into doing was using shock mages to apply shock mainly giving a huge dmg increase and than whatever other minion for dps
Another thing I wanted to test was infernal legion with fire spirits causing them to die explode with minion instability and that alone might not do much dmg but pair that with cast on minion death to use another spell to either cause dmg or debuffs of some sort sounds fun I haven’t even made it to endgame yet so don’t know how viable it could be but the idea of it sounds fun
@@richardlee1472 just adding a single shock mage with more chance to shock, shock aoe and shock don't expire on ignited enemies is enough to keep a 20% debuff on most enemies
@@richardlee1472I've been doing that combo you mentioned for about a week. The next step in my testing is with ice wall, and lowering the ice crystal's hp by 60%. Putting that into cast on minion death, even when they have full health, looks pretty good with ice mages shattering them relatively quickly. I'm hoping with the lowered HP, they'll just shatter immediately just like in the builds I see sorceresses playing with fireball for shattering + projectile splitting. My other 2 support gems on raging spirits are the ones that make them do more dmg but also take more dmg (makes it so they die faster, and give you energy faster) and the one that makes them explode when they get low health (again, so they die faster)
Im still at act3 and absolutely no idea what i am doing with this infernalist build but it's been fun so far. Using hellhound, 2 warriors, 3 arsonists with flame wall & raging spirits. At this moment, everything melts in a second but i'm a bit confused about wich minions to use.
Skeleton Warrior build would be #6 or #5 if u would use Infernal Legion/Minion Instability/Last Gasp/Meat Shield combo :D Skeleton Brute & Detonate Dead/SpellEcho also would be higher Also would Cold Infusion work as a 5th support gem for Reavers in IceMage/Reavers build?
I run: 5-7 -Reavers + 1 poison armor stripper dog 1-2 Lightning mage shock & Expose stackers 3-4 Lightning mage dmg for extra clear 2-3 clerics for sustain This gives me body blockers, strong dps, deal w close and far enemies, debuffs harder bosses, and a little versatility if something happens to be resistant against one of my damage types.
BTW If you activate your Reavers and they start dying, you can do the weapon swap trick to prevent them from dying! You just cook up a new batch and you're ready to go again :)
I’m running 12 arsonists 1 storm mage for buffed shock in tier 16+2 maps and they do fine. I do a bit over 1 mill dps on boss’s there main issue is not there survivability it’s the travel time of there projectiles. If you are doing breach and monsters are moving quickly there attacks often miss.
If I may, whats your take on snipers (multishot support gem) + flame wall? flame wall adds fire damage to all their arrows, plus turns their poison cloud into an explosion (and the multishot turns that explosion into x3). I combined that with the poison shredding armor resist and it seems to be going very well
My biggest issue with ranged minions is their attack behavior. They always stop to attack and if you are going for a fast map clear you want to be on the move at all times. Reavers don't stop. They rush the front with you and clear everything while moving. This is why I can't play ranged minions. I use 2 shields and both raise shields to resummon minions at my location. Using blink with the second shield and teleporting to a good position to then call in my boys to nuke what ever I need gone. Rushing t15+ maps has never been easier, and I'd go as far and say faster for the cost of the build. I've invested a total of 60 ex and I'm near unkillable with 22 reavers each having a dps of 30k when I have a pain offering up. If not, they have a listed dps of 13k.
I’m new to the game franchise and have always loved minion builds in similar games. This name to me is rather overwhelming to me though due to there being so many gems and abilities to pair. I wish it was a little more new player friendly as recommending things for certain style builds.
Dude, top left. That's why I can't do the weapon swap. You cannot tell your actual true number of minions, how many are dead/alive at any given time based on that buff list. It feels like every time I use it, it's using a completely broken mechanic. I don't think they intended this as a feature so I am sure it's going to get fixed anyway.
Tankier frontline for arsonists is easy. Bring unearth, it works wonders. Arsonists happily nuke enough to give the corpses and then there's just a mass of scorpion skeletons getting in the way of the enemy.
Why do you have to have all the same type of minion? I'm only lvl 75 but Im doing great with a few storm, a few frost, a few reavers, a couple clerics, and a couple warriors. There are synergistic supports stones like 'shock doesn't expire on ignited targets', 'ignite consumes freezes to increase damage', 'hits consume freezes to increase damage' and 'hits electrocute primed targets'
Support gems. Basically there's only enough good support gems for 1 caster dps and 1 melee dps (i.e. Frost Reaver) when you're only running 2-3 support gems per minion you won't notice it, but once you get to 6 it's pretty brutal! You can run other minions for different utilities though which is becoming more common
What do you mean by stacking area damage for arsonist via passive tree? There isnt a single area damage node in the game that isnt just for "Spells" which they classify as minions, so they shouldnt get the buff right? Edit: do you mean more Area effect? Not area damage?
I dont really understand why is people still thinking in terms on poe 1 going for an exclusive single skill and maxing it out. Specially in this poe where u can specialice in 2 weapon set and passives... Tehorically is posible to run a minion Hybrid Build like Arsonist - brutes. Reavers - Frost mages and put some chaos or fire damage on top of it and still work since the damage output is not gonna b significantly lower between 1 version or another. As long as u have u defense layers on point for T16 everything will b fine.
For me, the weapon swap tech to unspawn/respawn minions only works when there are no enemies around. If there are any enemies around, it starts the respawn timer. Is that what everyone else is experiencing too?
You have to use a second weapon set, on that weapon set you have to set your minion counts to 0. So when you swap weapons all your minions disappear, meaning they wont get stuck in doorways or fall behind. Once you get into a room or at a pack of enemies you swap back to your main weapon set and it will spawn your minions at once in a very tight pack. That's basically how it works. there's some weirdness with it if you weapon swap with the minion respawn timer up it might not spawn them in and restart the timer so you'll have to play around it. Also do not use a rattling sceptre in your second weapon set as it will bug out the respawning of your main minions.
Fantastic explanation! The only thing I want to add is that to set up the weapon swap, you open the skill panel and then open the additional information for your summon. At the bottom of the screen, you'll see a 1 and a 2, put everything in 1 and none in 2. This will allow you to spawn and despawn when you swap between weapon sets 1 and 2. Hopefully that all makes sense!
Swap your rattling scepter for a diff scepter or wand in your weapon swap. Swap off and on to “reset” your minions to keep them together when they start to spread out
@shutterpp1108 blink is just for convenience. You can sometimes teleport up short ledges and across gaps. To use it how he had mentioned you need to socket blink and have it turned off in your main weapon set, and then activate blink on your secondary set where you have minions turned off. This way you save the 60 spirit and don't have to sacrifice minions and such and can still use blink AND stack minions / spawn/despawn on command. It's funky for sure but he explains it in his recent ice mage minion video at the end and has a demonstration!
I refuse to do the stacking bug trick. This will be patched sooner or later. They have to fix base minion behaviour like body clipping, despawning or not attacking first.
For the sniper build, how can you skip using the gas cloud and then igniting the mob. I focus in area of effect in passive tree and fire damage multipliers. When you run about 10 or 11 of them you can spam them without running out. I can't wait to get to end game so I can see the full potential of my build. ( current level 63 )
If you run arsonists, then they are 100% worth it. I would even add them in a frost or sniper build because 10 of them will outdamage a single skelly. Not only that but the firewall to cast them will also give you extra projectile damage, and there's no reason not to add fire exposure to your hound to take advantage of them and your hound ignites.
Still good with SRS, I have to cast flamewall anyhow to maximize damage of the projectile pets and they come on top, also the benefit from the offering just as other minions. I personally do not believe they are bad, they are added damage 10 pets for only 30 spirit or one less of the others. I am lvl 88.
Can I ask how you are de-spawning and re-spawning your minions on command? I've been manually doing it by going through and adjusting the count to zero and back up. If there's a single button to do it, that would be awesome.
Second weapon set. Swap between them and it instantly despawns your current minions. I just have my wand from the start in my second set & swap using it Edit: default key is X for swap
I got you! - equip a weapon in weapon set #2. - Going to the input options and set "swap weapon" to something you are comfortable pressing often. - press "g" , then open the info for your minions, in the bottom right make sure that weapon set #2 is set to zero for each minion (sometimes you have to redo this when entering a new map/zone) Now whenever you swap weapons all of your minions except for the dog will despawn, and when you swap back they will all respawn in a tight crowd. When you do this near a doorway it allows them all to squeeze through and attack everything together without body-blocking. Its a little tedious at times but its pretty smooth once you learn to play around it.
I was in your twitch chat talking to you when I played arsonists and tried to change to reavers i then ended up doing a mix like your talking about with reavers and frost i just do reavers and arsonist its an insane combo where you can allso get dd and srs in and the pathing for mix is just way better and stronger because the arsonist allso gets more dmg shotting in to flame wall that you use to spawn srs.
You forgot to mention the ranged minions despawning when you move too far from them. Revers keep up with you + run ahead and aggro and attack everything in sight which is way better for clearing content.
It's just clicking on the arrow button next to the DPS number in your skills menu for each minion skill, and setting the number to 0 on your second weapon set. If your minions are too dispersed, you can then swap to weapon set 2 and they all despawn. Swap back to weapon set one and they instantly respawn on your location. Setting your main skill, e.g. Flame Wall, to weapon set 1 only will swap the weapon back for you when you use the skill without having to manually swap.
Thank you for this comparison. I'm still levelling and running arsonists but with raging spirits. Those raging spirits are not mentioned in this guide or your leveling guide. Are they realy that bad?
I found corrosion with scattershot martial tempo and I forgot what the other was but it gives +35 damage with - something else and if you use thier ability on bosses it melts them SUPER fast
04:20 all "the what stuff now" ??? Good job on the vid man! 06:40 Try a Brute and your Hellhound as front-line. If you run in to a boss, press G and swap to Brutes (gotta be fast though) and now you have 2 builds in one!
I run a hybrid build: snipers and fire (firewall, raging spirits, hellhound and firestorm - i had flamability but i got the passives for less fire rez from the skill tree), with a combo of armor (20%), energy shield (depending on the gear but around 500) and evsion (43% and counting). That evasion is pretty dope. I also run grim feast and a mace for 2 skeletal worriors to tank (I might go for a malice scepter and some reavers, just for testing). Also one or two clerics. And contagion. This combo is good both for bosses and for clearing maps.
Contagion does absolutely nothing against bosses, and it falls off hard in Cruel since a minion build has no spell damage, so anything you cast deals pitiful damage compared to minions. I would run Unearth instead to get melee minions, Malice is way too important, those free skeletal warriors are massively inferior compared to dmg boost from Malice.
How to get so many minions? I understand the spirit requirements lowers with higher levels. It can be pushed through passive tree too. What am I missing?
tbh, my goal was going for mix reavers and mages since arsonist was so popular i want something different =) i can't wait to see that ice + reaver video but for me i would add 1 storm just to get that damage increase when shock
Not many of us are going through the troubles to making sure comparisons are made with similar gearing, gg wp :)
Super excited to see the reaver and frost mage hybrid build! Sound exactly like what I'm looking for
basically any minion build atm: stack +minion on scepter/helmet/amulet and stack as much spirit as possible at scepter/amulet/body. Buy +dps jewels for minions, get node for +minions.
There is no hidden mechanics, there is just few gem interactions. It all absolutely doesn't matter, what matter is what kind of minions you want to play (beside warriors/stunners/healers).
Still this is not zoom-zoom build, playing minons means you will be below average curve of farming/progression.
Shade at the Jestic. Respect. Dude just showcases other people’s gameplay and uses the Royal “We” in interesting ways.
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My party is desperately short on spirit.
i gambled a couple of body's early and me and my friend managed to get a unique with 100 spirit so i don't think its too rare
@@LUFC273 pilgrim vestments. Pretty common unique
@@LUFC273 100 spirit is stupid rare and you could sell for at least MAYBE 5 divine or go crazy and get lots of Ex
Think he is talking about pilgrim vestments unique comes with 100 spirit and costs 1 exalt on Poe official trade site
Imagine the chaos raise spectre will bring to all these builds XD Cant wait to see people experimenting with all the pokemon... I mean all the spectres...
Fantastic video! Pretty much nailed all the minions you could play outside totems. I leveled an infernalist witch which went amazingly well before the nerfs. Haven’t played since after because I wanted to play other minions. Now I am doing a Chronomancer Frost mage skellie build which has been kind of meh. It definitely feels slow for me and the dmg is meh. It’s hard to build defensives in trees when I have to continuously farm up more minion dmg and crit and all of that every new zone.
I switched from arsonist to snipers a few days ago. I just hit t3 and am smashing maps. I've run through 10 vaal orbs and have got horrible luck on 4 slot gems only 2 of 10 converted. The one thing I kept in is corrosion for my sniper. It melts bosses armor. Having a blast so far in this game. Great vid and tips.
Link build?
not to smash your dreams but t3 is nothing compared to t15 maps
@@Cedrinya im running t15 with arsonists, dying once in a while but clearing maps pretty fast. tried ascendery points 7. and 8. today with my friend.... we died at the last boss because we couldnt see anything but fire and lightning (my friend is a lightning mage)
@@Thunderony in what way does this have anything to do with my comment or with the comment from the user
@@Cedrinya because he switched from my build to a sniper build to run t3 maps, i just told that its pretty easy for me with his earlier build. Best regards :)
Great stuff my man. Thanks
on the sniper build, you missed the point, that the dudes are switching the gear only in for bosses. Mapping works with regular maxxed stats and 75% shield
yea exactly this. I'm playing the skeletal Archer build on t16+ and I haven't died for days. Its super tanky and you CAN switch items for bosses, but you dont even need to.
@@Xinzo420link to build please?
@glenmcl just search up Mattjestic
@@Xinzo420 also here for the build
@@Xinzo420 Are u using the Majestic Sniper Build? Which version? Ty
Your minions are obviously going to be squishy if you don't cap their resistances.
My Arsonists or Snipers have 83% ele res(Everything from tree) and 80% phys dmg mitigation(60% from Jewels and 20% from tree).
They're not dying to anything.
If you're gonna run squishier minions like Snipers or Arsonists you have to compensate by solving their defenses. It's kinda unfair to rank them as weaker because they're dying when the solution is present right in the skill tree while ignoring it.
So you’re snipers and arsonist don’t die to bosses either?
@@ozarka1110they usually don’t
@@ozarka1110 Not really. My minions almost exclusively die to getting outranged by me and de-spawning.
There are some exceptions where my minions die to things from the level 3 Arbiter endgame boss. But my Dog who has Meat Shield linked dies there too and I'm pretty sure Reavers also would die to him.
My minions might also die to chaos damage because I haven't capped their resistances, they only have 23% from the tree in my build. But that's rare and I've never found it a problem. Even when I open T18 6-mod Breaches with 40% delirium and a bunch of Chayula Chaos dmg monsters my minions don't die outside of getting stuck in doors and despawning as I try to push the breach.
What minions predominantly die to is Elemental and Physical damage. Especially physical damage because no one builds for it. If you want your minions to survive Boss slams and breaches et.c. you need to get their physical damage mitigation up since most people only get 20% from the tree and call it a day. Red Ruby Jewels can provide 15% minion phys mitigation in addition to 7% increased block which has been my focus. This allows you to easily block cap your build and give your minions 80% total phys mitigation allowing them to tank all boss slam attacks.
Tell us ur build
@@henrikswanstrom9218 thanks man. I’m going to add this to my build. Where did u get the jewels for 60% physical dmg mitigation?
It's kinda lame how shit minion clear is compared to these bow and quarterstaff builds and GGGs prio is to nerf minions 😢😢
totally agree
Bow needs an emergency nerf fr
Meanwhile a monk with one swipe of his weapon the mobs vanished faster than I can blink. Witch is crippled this EA. No specters and minions bug out in doors/narrow hallways/stairs.
Snipers are pretty busted, compareable to bows.
In all fairness, we stand behind minions, they facetank shit. My friends (all 93+) they keep raging when they die on t15 due to small idiotic mistakes. While we are pretty much immortals. Slower and consistent rather than fast and prone to errors
“The main advantage of reavers is that you don’t need to use feeding frenzy. “ open build, check reavers gem slots, first gem: feeding frenzy. Wut?
And what? He said you dont need it. You be fine without, but you can use it if you want. Just swap. It is pretty clear.
that u dont NEED to use it. are u incompetent of processing information?
@@CHIPICHIPICHAPACHAAPA When you see someone be right but in the next half they completely ruin their comment to the point u wish they were wrong just because..
Your understanding comprehension is as high as you IQ. Lukewarm.
i play a mixed minion version build where i connect multiple minion with each other. So i have various types of dmg output combined (poison, fire (hound), armor pen, stuns, phys-dmg, elemental dmg / shock. For my backline I play 1 cleric for heal, 4-5 Snipers for armor pen, 2 storm-mages for shocking (dmg stacking for other minions aswell). For my frontline i play 5 reavers and 2 brutes (stuns enemys and for more armor break) for clearing all mobs. Its overall a solid build and i think that ggg intended the minion build should look like a combination of many minions together. You should try it out :)
Skill gems being unique has actually caused this to be suboptimal imo, have to pick on minion type sadly, but I'm sure it is working OK for you
problem is unique support skills. minmaxing a single minion makes more sense on paper, and swapping them out for different maps/fights if you have to but that's a pain. i'm not maxed out and my 2 warriors are going close to 25k dps alone, each.
Last night I switched from Arsonist to Reavers, trying to copy what you had laid out in a previous video. It seems like the worst decision I ever made. I'm almost certain its me being bad at the game, but I went from killing everything so fast to now watching my reavers respawn counter as I'm trying to dodge a screen full of monsters alone. I made the switch at level 70, while I was just starting to do low level maps. I'm sure some of my gear isn't ideal, but having spent most of my gold to respec has left me with no option but to struggle through content that I was once destroying. Trying to figure out how to work my way back into Arsonists without losing all the tankiness.
The exact same thing happened to me when I tried doing the swtich. Had to respec everything and rebuy all of my gear
I was clearing T15 w/ ars and could barely clear a T1 with reavers
I still think about trying it out again, cause I have WAY better gear and I think it could work better this way
The thing is, if you're not that strong, reavers can't handle everything by themselves and youre left alone w/ little energy shield tanking a bunch of mobs
I believe this issue could be addressed with more attention on the videos. I still cant judge by myself if reavers is in fact better, but i know for sure that arsonists are WAY better for leveling and budget builds, solely bc of the safety you get from their range plus raging spirits
Tried the same thing today. Respec'd and got new armor/energy gear. Thank god I saved my last gear. Tried both Reavers + Frost Mage + Snipers + Priest and all sorts of combos. Can't survive when minions are trapped in small ass pathways. They may be great in open areas where Reavers can have free roam, but in small dungeons with the most narrowest of doorways and pathways, they suck ass. Arsonists are great because they have range so even if they get trapped, you can just run back to them and they're start bombing everything coming their way. If reavers could throw their damn weapons at enemies, then maybe but for now, until GGG makes minions be able to bypass narrow passageways and door frames, then this build is not great.
@@leos2441 tried arsonists a couple of times, always went back to reavers :)
I switched from arstonit to reaves in mid 50s.. still lvling but ars def felt little faster, but I am getting way less FPS drop with the reavers sooo thats a plus i guess haha
I originally spent a lot respeccing to this Reaver's build and I kept dying doing Maps in areas where it was mostly narrow doorways and narrow passageways since they would get stuck in doorways. I found another similar build on Moba, that was Reavers + Frost Mage, but mainly Frost Mage and some Reavers. I did add an additional Storm Mage and when I have more spirit, I was thinking of adding a couple of clerics to the mix. But this build had 15 frost mages and 4 Reavers and this guy was clearing Tier 18, and so far, I like it.....the more Frost Mages means even if they get stuck in the doorway, they can still do some range when I kite the enemy back to them. Plus, their "Frost Bomb" is mana cheap and when there's more Frost Mages, you can spam that to freeze enemies on the go, which makes it easier for your Reavers to kill the front line enemies faster. For "bosses"....the cold curse + frost bombs come in really handy. I just need to find gear with more spirit on them so I can have more minions (that get stuck in doorways, which seriously, this game needs to improve minion pathing, which Blizzard's D4 has seriously improved a lot). And don't use "Enrage" on Reavers, because....yes, they do more damage, but it's a ticking time bomb for Reavers, as after Enrage ends, your Reavers will die naturally, which is horrible in a boss fight, especially if the passive specs don't have faster revives for minions. Also, my former Arsonists were throwing firebombs 1/sec like mad and I had them spec'd so that each grenade had a wide area dmg, so even if they miss the enemy, the explosions would kill them off quickly.
My arsonist have 15k dps pre buffs, I do not even have the +3 gem yet, also I can stop time because not infernalist but chronomancer so I just watch bosses die and my minions literally eat them why they cannot do anything.
Ive done a couple t16 juiced maps with arsonists. I havent personally had any issue with them dying. But i also run a spirit stacking build with almost 800 spirit, so i have 18-19 arsonists that just melt everything.
Thanks for reviewing. In my opinion, Storm Mage Skeleton is the best aoe mob clearing when lightning spark nearby mob. It gonna chain and call other to it. Btw sniper Skeleton is the best on Boss fight. I just curse boss to slow it and rolling around. After that sniper skeleton will do the best part of it❤❤
I never had an issue with arsonists dying really, 2 skeletons where enough to tank. 1 cleric and maxed resistances and some chaos resistance are enough. And i do rippy as F T16`s with radiation and corruption in maxed out bosses. Yeah compared to other minions they are not as tanky but resistances are king.
As for me who played half of the campaign with arsonists+raging spirits+flame wall and always felt lack of dps found out the best combo for any infernalist: every 5 reavers (+35%dmg +feeding frenzy without negative atkspeed) should be complemented by 1 sniper (+poison on aa +corrosion) and 1 storm mage (100% shock chance + 50% shock spread within 2,5m) and 1 cleric. Gas bomb for applying corrosion to priority target and I use pain offering(persistense+40%aoe) and bone offering(mana pool) + vulnerability(35% curse power) only on bosses. This composition's dps do magical things against any enemy. Also hellhound would detonate the gas cloud when get into it so you have not only armor shred also a huge blast not forget shocked enemies take more damage. After I made that build on Act 1 cruel no boss last longer than 1 minute :D
Thanks for your work with minions.
great video , it was exactly what i needed
Hey @Goblin-Inc some tech for you that I haven't seen around - Conduit on the passive tree lets charges you generate go to your minions. Using sniper's Mark gets you frenzy, and profane ritual gets you power charges. Both have some good supports (profusion, overabundance, less duration). My reaver build very quickly gets up to 3/3 charges during mapping. On bosses, you can easily get the frenzies but the powers are harder (no corpses).
It's a lot of buttons, but hey, your minions are fighting for you, least you can do is use some buttons to help them out. THere's probably a 'Cast on minion death' setup that semi-automates charge generation depending on how quickly you clear, but I'm SSF so I don't really have the spirit to justify it just yet.
Very interesting, worth looking at
so good this video, i am 87 and got 6 divines, played snipers, arsonists and now i thoought what next. i ve seen all the builds and now you just make a video about the pro and cons, which is mega useful ! i was short before taking the majjestic build but as you said i think its true, we need also be practical and tanky in playing, very good content! what you d advise me to invest my divines on first, when i take your build?
good work here and a lot of effort. thx 4 that
I prefer brutes over reavers for my mix build. They are way tankier and they have a really strong aoe. If you go full melee, they stun so fast that the aoe explosion is always happening. The best part is that you can add the support to break full armor on heaby stuns, literally you will always have enemies without armor.
Give them 25% gain fire damage, 30% gain fire against ignited, break armor on heavy stun and they will fit perfectly in a fire build. If you play reavers, then you need to add snipers to break armor and you need to be enraging them if you want them to outdamage brutes that spam their ability automatically.
I love brutes as well! They're my favorite minion. They are fantastic in difficult content. Incredibly tanky, high damage on stun. Problem is, in high end content they can't quite match the boss damage of other minions, and in farming content they're just a bit slow. I do want to spend some more time on them though, they're such a sick unit there's gotta be something good for them
@Goblin-Inc please do bro I tried to make them work but the spirit cost is prohibitive
@Goblin-Inc they have petter dps than reavers if you compare dps to spirit cost. I think the smaller minion count is a benefit due to the minions clunky AI.
I'm also using a hybrid build of brutes and arsonist, but minions are so close together that I think most hybrids builds should work. I plan to switch to brutes/snipers or brutes/frost. The frontline and backline uses different support gems, and it makes the builds way more tankier.
Which ones are called brutes?
@@albertogreene8144 With heavy hummers.
try take brutes with infernal legion, and spend few skill points on minions fire resistance. if you have spare spirit that was not enough for another brute, take few clerics for them. also y might want to take some passives for max xp of minions, and it works amazing. brutes are lacking in clearing trash, but with infernal legion trash perish by themselves
I love you for your minion builds. Keep it up I love you!
What advice would you give to a new player playing witch just hit act 2?
dont go blood witch unless you have a lot of patience and time to put into the game XD
Hello, I enjoy your videos, but just wanted to note that your mic audio might be kind of low or the music audio might be high. I turn up my volume to hear you, then when the transition music plays my ears get blasted. Either way, thank you for your well structured videos... PoE2 has been a huge game to tackle and your videos help. 👍👍
another great video thanks!
Awesome content, thanks a lot!
Any recommendation for SSF?
I’ve been experimenting with hybrid reaver and frost mages, it improves clear speed significantly.
Looking forward to see what support gems you chose for the hybrid!
you said you will create reavers + frost mages hybrid build did you do that? I waiting that.
your guide in the description has feeding frenzy for the reavers. What 5 gems do you use for reavers in order of importance.
this! lol what is going on.
did you watch the video??? apparently not 12:10
@@johnjohnmtm did yyou read the question? Yea in the vid he says, "reavers don't need feeding frenzy" then posts a build in the description with reavers using Feeding Frenzy.
I watched another video of his he says if your reavers are dying often use last gasp instead of feeding frenzy.
@@judasblewit he says that in this video too, like dude watch the video @bboy458
8:48 for clarification I have to say we dont die in T16-18+ Maps at all with our setup, I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding as Goblin Inc makes great D4 guides and now POE2 guides, and likely didnt get time to see the full MOM + 12% Mana Gained Per Monster Killed unique combo we have for the build, which means that we have infinite mana and does not take dmg to our hp 95% of the time with 2400+ mana, the builds also have a number of variants for bossing and mapping all tested in all T18 contents (we also take down any uber T18 boss down in 3-4s now, will update on latest setup today!)
Hello man I hope you are doing well! I have enjoyed following your content both in d4 and poe2. I would definitely like to learn more about the setup's defenses and how it performs in high tier maps. Tbh 2400 mana sounds quite low as traditional es/amrour builds typically have 6k es that gets doubles to 12k from grim feast, and then you also have 1k life putting you at 13k ehp. There might be something I'm missing though with the tankiness! I'm curious, with the version that you're saying can do high tier maps without dying, is that with or without the 2 uniques? Also are there any other major defensive layers beyond mom?
I enjoy your content and look forward to learning more about this build!
@Goblin-Inc thanks for responding so fast buddy! yea loved your creative builds on D4
@mattjesticgaming the Es build is better and cheaper but I appreciate your content and the creativity, I just stacked ES with Grim feast and have 9k ES, 35 armor, capped res and +100 rarity. Only lacking in hp but my build cost total perhaps 5 to 10 divines....I clear t18 with little trouble unless my pain offering fucks up on bosses since I play controller
"12% Mana Gained Per Monster Killed unique" - which unique is that? Google didn't find anything
@mattjesticgaming --> Please do update that MOM build because it is over a week old.
I want to see more build with variety of minions one thing I was looking into doing was using shock mages to apply shock mainly giving a huge dmg increase and than whatever other minion for dps
Another thing I wanted to test was infernal legion with fire spirits causing them to die explode with minion instability and that alone might not do much dmg but pair that with cast on minion death to use another spell to either cause dmg or debuffs of some sort sounds fun I haven’t even made it to endgame yet so don’t know how viable it could be but the idea of it sounds fun
@@richardlee1472 just adding a single shock mage with more chance to shock, shock aoe and shock don't expire on ignited enemies is enough to keep a 20% debuff on most enemies
I've started running this in every build! Very good for hard boss fights
@@richardlee1472I've been doing that combo you mentioned for about a week. The next step in my testing is with ice wall, and lowering the ice crystal's hp by 60%. Putting that into cast on minion death, even when they have full health, looks pretty good with ice mages shattering them relatively quickly. I'm hoping with the lowered HP, they'll just shatter immediately just like in the builds I see sorceresses playing with fireball for shattering + projectile splitting.
My other 2 support gems on raging spirits are the ones that make them do more dmg but also take more dmg (makes it so they die faster, and give you energy faster) and the one that makes them explode when they get low health (again, so they die faster)
Survivability as an arsonist build late game is key. HP stacking/energy shield stacking and Grim Feast is key D:
Im still at act3 and absolutely no idea what i am doing with this infernalist build but it's been fun so far. Using hellhound, 2 warriors, 3 arsonists with flame wall & raging spirits. At this moment, everything melts in a second but i'm a bit confused about wich minions to use.
You should just use pure arsonists until late game. Even late arsonists are viable but snipers are better.
Skeleton Warrior build would be #6 or #5 if u would use Infernal Legion/Minion Instability/Last Gasp/Meat Shield combo :D
Skeleton Brute & Detonate Dead/SpellEcho also would be higher
Also would Cold Infusion work as a 5th support gem for Reavers in IceMage/Reavers build?
Great content bro
I run:
5-7 -Reavers +
1 poison armor stripper dog
1-2 Lightning mage shock & Expose stackers
3-4 Lightning mage dmg for extra clear
2-3 clerics for sustain
This gives me body blockers, strong dps, deal w close and far enemies, debuffs harder bosses, and a little versatility if something happens to be resistant against one of my damage types.
How are you able to have so many minions with 484 spirit?
visual bug
minion visual bug with weapon switch, also no you cant go beyond your spirit, its just a visual bug
BTW If you activate your Reavers and they start dying, you can do the weapon swap trick to prevent them from dying! You just cook up a new batch and you're ready to go again :)
I’m running 12 arsonists 1 storm mage for buffed shock in tier 16+2 maps and they do fine. I do a bit over 1 mill dps on boss’s there main issue is not there survivability it’s the travel time of there projectiles. If you are doing breach and monsters are moving quickly there attacks often miss.
1:40 is the minion stacking thing that lets melee stand on each other.. just a glitch that’s going to get nerfed in a week and no longer be possible?
If I may, whats your take on snipers (multishot support gem) + flame wall? flame wall adds fire damage to all their arrows, plus turns their poison cloud into an explosion (and the multishot turns that explosion into x3).
I combined that with the poison shredding armor resist and it seems to be going very well
My biggest issue with ranged minions is their attack behavior. They always stop to attack and if you are going for a fast map clear you want to be on the move at all times. Reavers don't stop. They rush the front with you and clear everything while moving. This is why I can't play ranged minions. I use 2 shields and both raise shields to resummon minions at my location. Using blink with the second shield and teleporting to a good position to then call in my boys to nuke what ever I need gone.
Rushing t15+ maps has never been easier, and I'd go as far and say faster for the cost of the build. I've invested a total of 60 ex and I'm near unkillable with 22 reavers each having a dps of 30k when I have a pain offering up. If not, they have a listed dps of 13k.
What kind shield do you use for skill I and skill II?
It feels bad to see nerfs to minion builds before spectres and golems are even in the game.
in the witch showcase (some month ago) they show the possibility to hire enemies after the died. Is this in the game rn?
It's called "Spectres" and no not yet
I’m new to the game franchise and have always loved minion builds in similar games. This name to me is rather overwhelming to me though due to there being so many gems and abilities to pair. I wish it was a little more new player friendly as recommending things for certain style builds.
Dude, top left. That's why I can't do the weapon swap. You cannot tell your actual true number of minions, how many are dead/alive at any given time based on that buff list. It feels like every time I use it, it's using a completely broken mechanic. I don't think they intended this as a feature so I am sure it's going to get fixed anyway.
Tankier frontline for arsonists is easy.
Bring unearth, it works wonders. Arsonists happily nuke enough to give the corpses and then there's just a mass of scorpion skeletons getting in the way of the enemy.
Can we have the complete build for reavers and frost mages please ?
It's a bug that you minion counter is like 50-66?
Yeah. Poe2 is really bad at math. Even in hideout you can insane display numbers. Need to change instances to get a proper update.
@@mathiassky8849 thank you, I was scared for a moment.
I thought I was doing something wrong with my 5 frost mage (the build is still low, I'm at 71)
Yep, ui bug
Why do you have to have all the same type of minion? I'm only lvl 75 but Im doing great with a few storm, a few frost, a few reavers, a couple clerics, and a couple warriors.
There are synergistic supports stones like 'shock doesn't expire on ignited targets', 'ignite consumes freezes to increase damage', 'hits consume freezes to increase damage' and 'hits electrocute primed targets'
Support gems. Basically there's only enough good support gems for 1 caster dps and 1 melee dps (i.e. Frost Reaver) when you're only running 2-3 support gems per minion you won't notice it, but once you get to 6 it's pretty brutal! You can run other minions for different utilities though which is becoming more common
how are you getting 50+ summons? i only have like 30-40 less spirit than you
What do you mean by stacking area damage for arsonist via passive tree? There isnt a single area damage node in the game that isnt just for "Spells" which they classify as minions, so they shouldnt get the buff right?
Edit: do you mean more Area effect? Not area damage?
I dont really understand why is people still thinking in terms on poe 1 going for an exclusive single skill and maxing it out.
Specially in this poe where u can specialice in 2 weapon set and passives...
Tehorically is posible to run a minion Hybrid Build like Arsonist - brutes. Reavers - Frost mages and put some chaos or fire damage on top of it and still work since the damage output is not gonna b significantly lower between 1 version or another.
As long as u have u defense layers on point for T16 everything will b fine.
Yea kriparian runs a hybrid sniper arsonist build that's really interesting to spam gas explosions from the archers
Why dont we use scatter support gem in the snipper build?
For me, the weapon swap tech to unspawn/respawn minions only works when there are no enemies around. If there are any enemies around, it starts the respawn timer. Is that what everyone else is experiencing too?
can you explain how to use the minion stacking tech? I still dont fully understand it.
You have to use a second weapon set, on that weapon set you have to set your minion counts to 0. So when you swap weapons all your minions disappear, meaning they wont get stuck in doorways or fall behind. Once you get into a room or at a pack of enemies you swap back to your main weapon set and it will spawn your minions at once in a very tight pack. That's basically how it works. there's some weirdness with it if you weapon swap with the minion respawn timer up it might not spawn them in and restart the timer so you'll have to play around it. Also do not use a rattling sceptre in your second weapon set as it will bug out the respawning of your main minions.
Fantastic explanation! The only thing I want to add is that to set up the weapon swap, you open the skill panel and then open the additional information for your summon. At the bottom of the screen, you'll see a 1 and a 2, put everything in 1 and none in 2. This will allow you to spawn and despawn when you swap between weapon sets 1 and 2. Hopefully that all makes sense!
Swap your rattling scepter for a diff scepter or wand in your weapon swap. Swap off and on to “reset” your minions to keep them together when they start to spread out
@@JasperBouchard How does blink play into that? I didnt quite catch that
@shutterpp1108 blink is just for convenience. You can sometimes teleport up short ledges and across gaps. To use it how he had mentioned you need to socket blink and have it turned off in your main weapon set, and then activate blink on your secondary set where you have minions turned off. This way you save the 60 spirit and don't have to sacrifice minions and such and can still use blink AND stack minions / spawn/despawn on command. It's funky for sure but he explains it in his recent ice mage minion video at the end and has a demonstration!
What’s the most hardcore viable?
im doing a Reaver bleed build but can't really push the build due to 5 links not dropping
I refuse to do the stacking bug trick. This will be patched sooner or later. They have to fix base minion behaviour like body clipping, despawning or not attacking first.
This video made me switch from Arsonists to Reavers... and Wow! Reavers own!
For the sniper build, how can you skip using the gas cloud and then igniting the mob. I focus in area of effect in passive tree and fire damage multipliers. When you run about 10 or 11 of them you can spam them without running out. I can't wait to get to end game so I can see the full potential of my build. ( current level 63 )
So SRS is not good in harder content? it's not worth sacraficing 30 spirit for it?
Until lvl 90 is playable, after, not really.
If you run arsonists, then they are 100% worth it. I would even add them in a frost or sniper build because 10 of them will outdamage a single skelly. Not only that but the firewall to cast them will also give you extra projectile damage, and there's no reason not to add fire exposure to your hound to take advantage of them and your hound ignites.
@@Lagalpb their dmg falls off against late late bosses.
Still good with SRS, I have to cast flamewall anyhow to maximize damage of the projectile pets and they come on top, also the benefit from the offering just as other minions. I personally do not believe they are bad, they are added damage 10 pets for only 30 spirit or one less of the others. I am lvl 88.
@hilding2063 that's the thing, they only cost 30. I find it hard to believe that a single minion outdamages 10 SRS
And which sapphires are we using for the reavers Build?
Do you have any opinions on how much I can lean into chaos abilities while using a good minion build?
Can I ask how you are de-spawning and re-spawning your minions on command? I've been manually doing it by going through and adjusting the count to zero and back up. If there's a single button to do it, that would be awesome.
Second weapon set. Swap between them and it instantly despawns your current minions. I just have my wand from the start in my second set & swap using it
Edit: default key is X for swap
I really wanna know how to do the tec of swap your gear to stak minions, i am new to de genre and did not understand how to do it
I got you!
- equip a weapon in weapon set #2.
- Going to the input options and set "swap weapon" to something you are comfortable pressing often.
- press "g" , then open the info for your minions, in the bottom right make sure that weapon set #2 is set to zero for each minion (sometimes you have to redo this when entering a new map/zone)
Now whenever you swap weapons all of your minions except for the dog will despawn, and when you swap back they will all respawn in a tight crowd. When you do this near a doorway it allows them all to squeeze through and attack everything together without body-blocking. Its a little tedious at times but its pretty smooth once you learn to play around it.
@@SeemoreFrames Ohhh thank you, that works great :)
Are you using blink? It’s nice, but it reserves a lot of spirit.
Only on weapon swap!
could you cut the video in sections ? please thanks!
What happens if you in this game? What are the penalties?
The 1st Builds with Frostmages/Reavers together arrive on mobalytics.
is the frostmage/reaver build work on bosses without eye of winter ?
I was in your twitch chat talking to you when I played arsonists and tried to change to reavers i then ended up doing a mix like your talking about with reavers and frost i just do reavers and arsonist its an insane combo where you can allso get dd and srs in and the pathing for mix is just way better and stronger because the arsonist allso gets more dmg shotting in to flame wall that you use to spawn srs.
You forgot to mention the ranged minions despawning when you move too far from them. Revers keep up with you + run ahead and aggro and attack everything in sight which is way better for clearing content.
they improved this a lot in the recent patch though for the ranged minions
I am super excited as well. Any chance you can link a "how to" on this weapon swap stacking thing? Playing PC btw
It's just clicking on the arrow button next to the DPS number in your skills menu for each minion skill, and setting the number to 0 on your second weapon set. If your minions are too dispersed, you can then swap to weapon set 2 and they all despawn. Swap back to weapon set one and they instantly respawn on your location. Setting your main skill, e.g. Flame Wall, to weapon set 1 only will swap the weapon back for you when you use the skill without having to manually swap.
Can we get an update on brute build?
Thank you for this comparison. I'm still levelling and running arsonists but with raging spirits. Those raging spirits are not mentioned in this guide or your leveling guide. Are they realy that bad?
Late game they fall off, Early game they're great
Im currently running a Raging Spirits build. Its decent but i dont know if i should respec. It feels a bit undeerpowered.
at 6:50 when you are talking about the arsonist build, I looked up and see that you have 44 arsonists spawned. This has to be a glitch.
the numbers on the buffs associated with his minions are a tad confusing. at times he has 60+ on his reavers.....
Quick question: Is Heatproofing actually worth it?
I found corrosion with scattershot martial tempo and I forgot what the other was but it gives +35 damage with - something else and if you use thier ability on bosses it melts them SUPER fast
can you explain the melee tech thing you mentioned? melee can now stack on each other?
04:20 all "the what stuff now" ???
Good job on the vid man!
06:40 Try a Brute and your Hellhound as front-line. If you run in to a boss, press G and swap to Brutes (gotta be fast though) and now you have 2 builds in one!
which venom draught to choose for minion builds? no one saying that
I run a hybrid build: snipers and fire (firewall, raging spirits, hellhound and firestorm - i had flamability but i got the passives for less fire rez from the skill tree), with a combo of armor (20%), energy shield (depending on the gear but around 500) and evsion (43% and counting). That evasion is pretty dope. I also run grim feast and a mace for 2 skeletal worriors to tank (I might go for a malice scepter and some reavers, just for testing). Also one or two clerics. And contagion. This combo is good both for bosses and for clearing maps.
Contagion does absolutely nothing against bosses, and it falls off hard in Cruel since a minion build has no spell damage, so anything you cast deals pitiful damage compared to minions. I would run Unearth instead to get melee minions, Malice is way too important, those free skeletal warriors are massively inferior compared to dmg boost from Malice.
Is it good idea using 1x brute, 1x arsonist, 1 x sniper, 1x frost mage, 1 x cleric for infernalist?
How to get so many minions? I understand the spirit requirements lowers with higher levels. It can be pushed through passive tree too. What am I missing?
where is the build ?
I am playing with Reavers&Cleric but cannot clear breach that much. Hope your build will give me some break through on that
Solve it with more dps. I'm using 4 jewels that have minion dmg, crit, atk speed.
tbh, my goal was going for mix reavers and mages since arsonist was so popular i want something different =)
i can't wait to see that ice + reaver video but for me i would add 1 storm just to get that damage increase when shock
"new melee stacking" what is this? can melee minions stand inside each other? or do they still get stuck on each other on most maps?
What's the cost for dying? I haven't noticed anything except items disappearing.
XP penalty. Its not active at low levels
I started off as pure fire minion/theme build. I changed to resvers and some other small specs and the dmg is just cray cray.
Arsonist build with the node that converts all fire into cold?