Great video. i just snagged 2 fatbikes with 26 "wheels a 1x10 and a singlespeed. i also just ordered 4 Hyper 26 "wheel fattire bmx with 36 volt 250 watt rear hubs on clearance for 298 Cdn. Hyper charges 298 for just the spare battery on their website so at 298 a full bike its a steal. I will not be going in the woods deep with them though .
This is exactly the way I’m thinking for a hunting bike,, 1000 watt , single speed to pull a small trailer ,, I haven’t started yet do to lack of info ,, but watching your video you cover all the info including problems with grass ! Thank you for your effort an sharing
I own a BBSHD system on a Specialized Rockhopper and I like your choice of equipment. Definitely clean up those wires and get rid of the barber pole thing with the power cabling. I am thinking about a dolomite with a 3KW rear hub motor running 72 volts. I'm not sure that a gun rack would go over well in Los Angeles though LOL!
I've cleaned it up a bit. Did great for a 12 days in back country elk hunt and used it again in KY for deer hunting. Climbs like a mule. The gun rack is now gone. So I'm good for now in LA. LOL
I like the way that you did this bike and have an idea that would work for this to make it not only for long distance but would also put your chain back in line and also give you more power and speed to get to places. What you do is add a second tier to your back rack and then add a 750-1,000 watt batteries to the engine on the lower rack and open up where you the triangle battery pack then place a 49cc 4 stroke engine into that spot with a 3-4-5 liter tank for gas the 4 stroke does not need a gas oil mixture in the tank and then add a jack shaft shift kit that has the free wheel set up with it. It will go on the same axel that runs thrue the mid drive engine and allow for when the mid drive is not running it will still allow for the engine to run and drive the bike forward just remember to let off the gas when you shift gears and you can still use the electric motor for getting back to your hunting spot.
I have a tip for you. I keep my weapon on my pack. For archery I use a bow spider. And for rifle I have a Kuiu rifle carrier attached to my pack. That will eliminate a lot of issues for you.
Very interesting vid, I've got an old Cheapo regular one old fart horse powered mountain bike that I picked up off the curb/trash that I made into a hunting bike. Works great but that motor and battery would be sweet. Definitely going to look into a fat tire bike too. As for a trailer, I was blessed to find an old school 90s one piece plastic baby buggy on Craigslist for 30 bucks.. Nice lady was telling me about using it for her kids and grandkids.. she obviously had sentimental attachments, then asked me if I was going to use it for my grandkids.. I just smiled and said Mam, you probably don't want to know Lol... it's been one of the best deer carts EVER. The way its made the bottom acts like a sled when the wheels are in scrub over their heads, even going over logs. And I pulled my buddy around in it for quite a while hooked up to the bike on the hard ball.
Looking for a fat tire snow bike to add a BBSHD on. Thanks for your review. I have built several e-bikes and one thing you can do is change out the front ‘Chainring’ to a Lekkie 40t or 42t to improve your offset for better chainline. The 40t will need a little grinding to the chainring cover. Even Luna cycles makes a 42t Eclipse chainring that has even more offset all depending if you have the room without hitting your chainstay. Getting a larger rear cassette is also a good idea if you increase the front chainring to improve your torque. Easy to switch cogs around to use the largest cogs for better chainline. Just a note: the screen on the handlebars is the display. The controller is in the right side of the motor near the chainring. I have upgraded my controller to get about 2 to 3 times the power up to 4K watts. Stock controller is a joke and the motor is so much more powerful than you could ever imagine. That would make that single sprocket a no brainer with the higher power. Thanks again for the review👍
Do your research on hub motors. I think you'd be better off with the torque of a mid drive motor/kit. Install is easy on mid drive and about the same money when it's all said and done. But......hub motors may have gotten better on the torque end.
@@bullet225howas your sprocket to far out or to far in Im going to build one like your's if to far in I can order accordingly and shim the none drive side
Top speed, range? I'm looking to do same build on a Dolomite. I have a Bafang 1000w rear hub motor with a 30amp controller, but the motor is the wrong width (175mm instead of 190mm); I can get 34mph, battery life isn't so great with a 48v 24ah jumbo shark battery, but I'm sure a mid-drive will give better range and be more efficient.
Top speed on this particular bike is right at 30 with a 36t front and 11 rear. If your looking for top speed than go larger chainring. I'm getting really good range out of this one. about 50miles on a charge with all throttle at pas 3. I just did 11 days on back country elk hunt and averaged 4-5miles per day. I maybe could have done all 11 days on a single full charge but did charge once for about 3 hrs on about day 7. Did a total of about 55 miles total out there. either very steep up or down. very little "level" ground. Bike did great. Never needed over PAS 6 (have it set 0-9) I have not modded the motor in any way. I do have the cable to program....just haven't found the need. If it werent for me living at basically sea level and flat ground I would turn this into a single speed. My main use is for hunting. So......slow speed and I need torque for hill climbing. I had a buddy with me on the trip and he had a commercial 750w hub motor that runs 29mph on pavement. It was NOT up to the task that he asked from it.
@@bullet225ho Just ordered a 52v 1000watt BBSHD with 46T chain ring, 52v 28ah triangle UPP battery (hope it fits). Going to be making it out of a Dolomite. Definitely going for speed without getting into 3rd party controllers.
It's holding up great! I was looking to get the Dolomite ALX initially...WalMart did not have a large size in stock at the time. The Argus Trail came up on Amazon wharehouse at an actual lower price than I could have gotten the Dolomite for at regular price. So......Argus Trail it was. Great starting platform for sure. obviously you can upgrade about everything on them if you like.
Gosh, I'm not sure if i've tested it but I'd say in the upper 20's close to 30mph. Put it this way...it's fast enough to get in trouble really quick and also get hurt really bad.
To correct the chainline you need to get a bigger front chainring, 42T has an offset towards the frame. To make up for the gearing, upgrade the cassette to maybe a 11-46t. I would not try to eliminate gear from your current cassette.
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Great video. i just snagged 2 fatbikes with 26 "wheels a 1x10 and a singlespeed. i also just ordered 4 Hyper 26 "wheel fattire bmx with 36 volt 250 watt rear hubs on clearance for 298 Cdn. Hyper charges 298 for just the spare battery on their website so at 298 a full bike its a steal. I will not be going in the woods deep with them though .
This is exactly the way I’m thinking for a hunting bike,, 1000 watt , single speed to pull a small trailer ,, I haven’t started yet do to lack of info ,, but watching your video you cover all the info including problems with grass !
Thank you for your effort an sharing
If you are going to pull a trailer, you don't want a single speed. You need a mid drive motor and gears.
Single speed your taking most all advantage away from the bafang md I would use 11 to 42 cassette then you have everything 7speed
This is just what I needed to see, been wanting to do this for a while just didn't know what all I was getting into. Thanks!!
It's a fun project. I'm pretty blown away at the result. Asking for a trailer for Christmas LOL
@@bullet225hoI would put a 11 to 42 cassette 7speed and a 42 after market front sprocket
👀Awesome 👏🏾 build💯
Nice video, good explanations, and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for a good informational video.
I own a BBSHD system on a Specialized Rockhopper and I like your choice of equipment. Definitely clean up those wires and get rid of the barber pole thing with the power cabling. I am thinking about a dolomite with a 3KW rear hub motor running 72 volts. I'm not sure that a gun rack would go over well in Los Angeles though LOL!
I've cleaned it up a bit. Did great for a 12 days in back country elk hunt and used it again in KY for deer hunting. Climbs like a mule. The gun rack is now gone. So I'm good for now in LA. LOL
I like the way that you did this bike and have an idea that would work for this to make it not only for long distance but would also put your chain back in line and also give you more power and speed to get to places. What you do is add a second tier to your back rack and then add a 750-1,000 watt batteries to the engine on the lower rack and open up where you the triangle battery pack then place a 49cc 4 stroke engine into that spot with a 3-4-5 liter tank for gas the 4 stroke does not need a gas oil mixture in the tank and then add a jack shaft shift kit that has the free wheel set up with it. It will go on the same axel that runs thrue the mid drive engine and allow for when the mid drive is not running it will still allow for the engine to run and drive the bike forward just remember to let off the gas when you shift gears and you can still use the electric motor for getting back to your hunting spot.
I have a tip for you. I keep my weapon on my pack. For archery I use a bow spider. And for rifle I have a Kuiu rifle carrier attached to my pack. That will eliminate a lot of issues for you.
I have since ditched the handle bar racks. This elk season I strapped bow to my pack. Rifle deer I slung rifle over my shoulder. Thanks for watching
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Very interesting vid, I've got an old Cheapo regular one old fart horse powered mountain bike that I picked up off the curb/trash that I made into a hunting bike. Works great but that motor and battery would be sweet. Definitely going to look into a fat tire bike too. As for a trailer, I was blessed to find an old school 90s one piece plastic baby buggy on Craigslist for 30 bucks.. Nice lady was telling me about using it for her kids and grandkids.. she obviously had sentimental attachments, then asked me if I was going to use it for my grandkids.. I just smiled and said Mam, you probably don't want to know Lol... it's been one of the best deer carts EVER. The way its made the bottom acts like a sled when the wheels are in scrub over their heads, even going over logs. And I pulled my buddy around in it for quite a while hooked up to the bike on the hard ball.
Looking for a fat tire snow bike to add a BBSHD on. Thanks for your review. I have built several e-bikes and one thing you can do is change out the front ‘Chainring’ to a Lekkie 40t or 42t to improve your offset for better chainline. The 40t will need a little grinding to the chainring cover. Even Luna cycles makes a 42t Eclipse chainring that has even more offset all depending if you have the room without hitting your chainstay. Getting a larger rear cassette is also a good idea if you increase the front chainring to improve your torque. Easy to switch cogs around to use the largest cogs for better chainline.
Just a note: the screen on the handlebars is the display. The controller is in the right side of the motor near the chainring. I have upgraded my controller to get about 2 to 3 times the power up to 4K watts. Stock controller is a joke and the motor is so much more powerful than you could ever imagine. That would make that single sprocket a no brainer with the higher power. Thanks again for the review👍
Thinking about getting a dolomite alx and purchasing the 26" 1500watt FAT conversion kit from ebikeling and a 28.8ah unit power battery.
Do your research on hub motors. I think you'd be better off with the torque of a mid drive motor/kit. Install is easy on mid drive and about the same money when it's all said and done. But......hub motors may have gotten better on the torque end.
@@bullet225howas your sprocket to far out or to far in Im going to build one like your's if to far in I can order accordingly and shim the none drive side
Top speed, range? I'm looking to do same build on a Dolomite. I have a Bafang 1000w rear hub motor with a 30amp controller, but the motor is the wrong width (175mm instead of 190mm); I can get 34mph, battery life isn't so great with a 48v 24ah jumbo shark battery, but I'm sure a mid-drive will give better range and be more efficient.
Top speed on this particular bike is right at 30 with a 36t front and 11 rear. If your looking for top speed than go larger chainring. I'm getting really good range out of this one. about 50miles on a charge with all throttle at pas 3. I just did 11 days on back country elk hunt and averaged 4-5miles per day. I maybe could have done all 11 days on a single full charge but did charge once for about 3 hrs on about day 7. Did a total of about 55 miles total out there. either very steep up or down. very little "level" ground. Bike did great. Never needed over PAS 6 (have it set 0-9) I have not modded the motor in any way. I do have the cable to program....just haven't found the need. If it werent for me living at basically sea level and flat ground I would turn this into a single speed. My main use is for hunting. So......slow speed and I need torque for hill climbing. I had a buddy with me on the trip and he had a commercial 750w hub motor that runs 29mph on pavement. It was NOT up to the task that he asked from it.
@@bullet225ho Just ordered a 52v 1000watt BBSHD with 46T chain ring, 52v 28ah triangle UPP battery (hope it fits). Going to be making it out of a Dolomite. Definitely going for speed without getting into 3rd party controllers.
Are you still using/happy with this setup? I just bought an Argus tail for this purpose
Got a build video for the e-motor set-up?
Not on that bike...but I'm about to put one together for a friend. May record that whole process on his bike.
How’s it holding up? In my state e-bikes are illegal in public so I’m just looking to get the Argus trail. Did you look at the dolomite Alx at all?
It's holding up great! I was looking to get the Dolomite ALX initially...WalMart did not have a large size in stock at the time. The Argus Trail came up on Amazon wharehouse at an actual lower price than I could have gotten the Dolomite for at regular price. So......Argus Trail it was. Great starting platform for sure. obviously you can upgrade about everything on them if you like.
What’s your top speed with the 36t gear on level pavement?
Gosh, I'm not sure if i've tested it but I'd say in the upper 20's close to 30mph. Put it this way...it's fast enough to get in trouble really quick and also get hurt really bad.
100mm motor ?
120 for the Argus Trail and Dolomite ALX no spacers required. Thanks for watching
To correct the chainline you need to get a bigger front chainring, 42T has an offset towards the frame. To make up for the gearing, upgrade the cassette to maybe a 11-46t. I would not try to eliminate gear from your current cassette.