Mouse control in msfs sucks on the ground when taxiing because when looking around with the mouse it freezes control inputs! So if you enter a left turn then pan before easing control pressure, the left pressure will stay on! Shocking design. Same with braking etc. I have my hatswitch configured for quicklook
I think when not using VR a head or eye tracker is a must have in MSFS! It's a so much better experience. Now I personally use TrackIR, but thought about buying Tobii because you don't need anything additional attached to your head. Now it would be great to have a comparison - maybe you'll get TrackIR to sponsor a review too :)
I have a vr headset but still use sometimes the trackir5 as it is higher fps and better visuals on my 32 inch 4k monitor, and much more confortable. Instruments are more readable. My vr headset i bought in 2017 was the best at the time with OLED 90hz and 1440x1600 per eyes but it is not a 4k monitor, and the fps is divided by more than 2 and that by reducing high/ultra to medium. It still good from time to time for vfr to use the vr headset and use the trackir5 for more technical flight.
@@Hyestarthe clip pro adapt to the headphone. The cheapest track clip yes fixes on a hat but it is not as accurate as the track clip pro, however the clip pro is fragile. I manipulate the arm with care. My wife broke my previous one.
Thanks for this. I have an older version of the Tobii Eye Tracker. I had thought about getting the 5, but wasn't sure how well it actually worked with MSFS. Seeing this answers most of my questions. I may have to get one.
I absolutely love my Tobii Eye Tracker 5. It's also great in DCS.. For MSFS I turned off the eye tracking portion and only use head tracking and slowed it down so it doesn't jerk around so much. If I want to look at the FMC i pause it and use a presaved window
I've been using the Tobii Eye tracker 5 for a few months now and I like it. I don't use it during the whole flight though in MSFS. Mostly do the same you do during taxi, take off, landing and taxi again. I don't use it for pre-flight, post-flight and during flight unless I want to sight see. I do use it 100% of the time for DCS though. I like it so much that I barely use my Meta Quest 2. No problems with the Meta Quest 2 but Tobii allows me to actually see my keyboard and control buttons, etc., which I find better. One thing you didn't mention is that Tobii allows you to unlock your PC instead of keyboard as it's certified for this. It also works with many other games. I've been meaning to use it for Codemasters F1 2022 but I haven't played that game for a while. But I also recommend it. People just need to be patient and play around with the axis sensitivity and settings. Good luck to the winner.
I have been using TrackIR for many years, I love it. Other than not having to wear a hat or a headset, I don't understand the benefit of the eye tracker. I get that it tracks your head movements, and it looks as though it does a great job. But what's the deal with the actual eye tracking? How do you benefit from it? Can you map a button so when you look at something (gear lever, switch, button etc..) you can interact with it while looking at it, like you would with a mouse pointer and left/right click?
Thanks to this video just picked this up, I used your link don't know if you get anything from it. This was the next step for me. I used to have track IR but I hated having to wear something all the time so I switched to notrackir with a logitech camera. This worked well for driving and truck sims where I only had to look left and right but constantly had to be reset, but it was worth the tradeoff for not having to wear anything. However for flight sims where you had to look down and up it was horrible. VR is great but similar to trackir I hate wearing things on my head (even headphones). Im hoping this is the natural next step, my only grievance is that it has to stick to one monitor so I can't use it on my racing rig but the old logitech method will do for that. On a side note thanks for the content, I found this channel a few weeks back and its a daily watch for me now! As a somewhat large youtuber myself I can tell you put in the effort and are well on your way to 100k!
Thank you very good video👏👏 I have a 49 inch Samsung Monitor I don't use eye tracking BUT it does work well, I like to use head tracking and it works vey well
The Tobii is awesome. I personally use it without eye tracking, but its awesome and has worked flawlessly for several months now. Humorous, but I use it and disable it same as you. Through use I just found I dont like it on during MCDU setup, as well as during CRZ flight it isnt needed.
Holy cow... that is f****** awesome! 🤯 The video wasn't even halfway through, and my wallet literally burned a hole through my pocket, trying to get out😂 Thank you, sir, for the information and honest feedback about this. I had looked at something similar in the past, but I wasn't really sure how it would work or if it would even be worth using. This could be a game changer in certain situations for me personally. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing your settings. I own a Tobii 5 since 2 weeks now, and I still don't know if I like it in MSFS. During taxi its awesome, during flight for looking around too. In the fixed camera positions you can't move normally you can with your eye tracker, thats pretty cool. But its sometimes too sensitive in my opinion, when you look to your instruments, I dont want the whole "head" to move. After that is takes too long to go back to center or looking trough window. I'm thinking shutting down the eye tracking and only use the head tracking might work. First gonna try your settings. Thanks for this video. And I love the Tobii in all other games I use it with, just not sure for MSFS, as sometimes looking with the mouse is more efficient.
I have the Tobii 5 also since about 4 weeks. In the beginning it takes some time getting used to it. I also switched of the eye tracking, use only headtracking otherwise you can't turn a switch, very nervous on screen. Also during CDU programming off, also during cruise mostly off. But indeed a very nice add-on.
Same here, sometimes it works very well, sometimes its better with the mouse. I use it mostly during taxi and in cruise when i'm looking around and in the fixed cameras.
I tired one for DCs but retuned it after 2 weeks. Not being able to add curves for the head is a no-go for combat sims as I could not look more than 90 deg to the side. The eye tracking also made it hard to read some gauges as I would look at them then the tracker would move my view further away. Really cool tech, not better than TIR for DCS/IL2
Thanks Kurt. Am experimenting with FS2020 triple monitor implementation which works fine with NVidia Surround. Your Opentrack comments and guidance excellent. I understand Tobi does not support FS2020 Triple monitor.
Great video and thanks. I am a fan of the Tobii 5 as just ordered one. I also have a Varjo Aero but its a real faff and not quite the same at all visually. May I ask what in VR you tried recently and why you prefer personally trackir..i.e the Tonii Eye? Thanks in advance
Thanks for your insight. Funny thing, I was already planning on purchasing a tobii eye tracker today before I saw this video. I currently use trackir but it can be a little finicky when I'm in msfs 2020. So, I've decided to give the tobii eye tracker a go. Thanks again for the video.
My TrackIr would stutter sometimes and its frustrating. Plus I have it installed on a dedicated baseball hat. I finally took the decision and purchased the Tobi today. I expect it to be a better experience. One question - Do you need to activate it before starting MSFS or can do it in game. Hate having to restart game to activate TrackIr.
First of all, this is an excellent video on how to fly does heavy aircraft, aside from the use of the eyetracker. I recently bought a very high-end machine running a 4090 card, and the 7800 X 3-D processor, and I think it can easily handle the processing needed for these are trackers. What I’d like to know is how better is this than using a program such as FacetrackNoIR? I install this in my computer, and it seems to track my head quite nicely. You do have control of all the input curves, but I really haven’t found the perfect curves yet that allow me to move my head without this tracker going all over the place. I’m looking at either this eyetracker or the track IR system and I’m still on the fence of which one to get. Please help me make this decision. Do I drop the big bucks with this I tracker or do I go for the lower dollars with the hat, mounted tracker, or do I just fine-tune the current free face tracking software that I have?
Hi, I only had an older version of track ir so I can’t compare the Tobii with the latest, but what I really preferred on the tobii was that I didn’t need to have a hat on while flying. That was my big downturn with track ir back in the day.
@@A330Driver I have tried FacetrackNOir and, while it works, it is too unstable to allow you to fly and look at the windows at the same time, especially in a helicopter. So I spent the bucks and got the.Tobbi 5
Thanks for the great video - I have Track IR, VR and Tobii 5. Have to say all these methods fit different circumstances. Sometimes I want to play VR and thats fine, other times i'll settle in for a longer play session and have plenty of time therefore i'll use Track IR and if I just want to get in game quickly and not bother with a headset or headphones for Track IR then Tobii is ideal. This is also true of other flight sims such as DCS. Therefore, all the methods have a purpose - but for pure ease of use and no hassle Tobii is excellent and very, very good.
@@A330Driver Hi 737 - I would say that TrackIR is a more 'mature' product and works very well indeed particularly in flight sims like DCS where you are, at times, moving your head very quickly. Tobii can struggle with this quick movement and can be a bit jerky too when moving quickly. However, Tobii for MSFS is ideal as there is no real need to be moving your head at quick speeds as its a more leisurely experience. So for me TrackIR can be more responsive for games like DCS, Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen etc. when engaging in 'combat' whereas Tobii is better suited to slower paced sims like MSFS, ETS2 etc. I do use Tobii on DCS sometimes but it's responsiveness can be a barrier at times in 'combat' as it is not quite as responsive as TrackIR.
I use my webcam + OpenTrack (which is free of charge) for this - anyway it's always a bit strange for me to move my head while starring at the screen with my eyes. I think nothing really can beat VR here besides a full 6DOF rig. However first I need a proper computer to run such a VR setup, but it's is planned so the Tobii would be just some waste of money for me right now.
Can you please do a flight out of Porto (LPPR) or a circuit using back to Porto (LPPR) demonstrating both LNAV/VNAV, VOR and speed management for both RWYs, 35 and 17? as i believe this is a great training environment for us. Route for RWY 35: MANIK DCT ABLEG, and RWY 17: MANIG ABLEG... cruise FL110 (this should cover both the SID and STAR) using combinations for VOR, RNAV and ILS. Please also discuss the engine out procedures and how you enter these in the FMC as i'm trying to learn this particular area, please.
This seems to be a better option than TrackIR. I purchased trackIR some 8 years ago or so, and I can count on my hands how many times I've used it. Conotrolling my view, turning it constantly on and off, and frequently resetting positions not to mention wearing a hat which I never do were all factors in giving up on the tech.
You had the track clip and not the track clip pro that fixes on the headphone and much more accurate. I still have it today and works great. It is fragile though with the arm. I manipulate with care.
I'm a TrackIR user since the very first model back in the day. I have thrown my old TIR 5 away, which didn't really work anymore. I got the eye tracker then. Never looked back! BTW I leave the eye tracking on a very low level of like 5-10%. This helps me with fine control and focusing on a spot.
@@A330Driver Exactly! With 0.5 or so it's way too jittery but 0.1 for eye tracking it does work for me. The eye tracking is very slow now. Like precision mode in TIR. Works for me, but your mileage might vary. Might as well use deadzone instead I think.
Had it for a week and I don’t find myself using it much. So very pricey for minimal use. Considering return via Amazon but I used the adjustable mount. So maybe I’ll play with it for another week
Who already has an iPhone with Face Id can also use the App Smooth Track with Open Track. You wont have eye tracking, But its cheaper and a bit more precise in my opinion.
@@A330Driver im connecting via usb so that the latency is better. But didnt had any problems via wifi since the app dimms the screen. I never drained the battery in a flight. Running on 14 Pro
I have also considered to buy the Tobii eye tracker but unfortunately as soon as I know this requires max distance from the display of around 1 meter. For me it is not feasible because I am using the 65 inch OLED TV as the monitor and I am sitting around 2 meters away. Now I have installed the conventional web cam on the TV and AITrack & OpenTrack free software, which allows head tracking very similar to what Emanuel has shown in his video. Working quite good for me for taxi, takeoff and landing. During the cockpit preparations and cruise it is usually off.
They advise a distance of up to 95cm from the screen. If you love in the EU it might be worth getting it for a try and if it doesn't work you could still send it back.
I've had the tobii for a few months now and use it when not in VR. I use it much the same way you do. I tend to leave it off during pre-flight and use the view keys to select views. Especially in the 737 as it doesn't use the lock on system for switches like the CRJ. The features I miss the most is the ability to pause it and leave it in it's current position rather than having the view reset like it does when you turn it off. I'd also like it to reverse the position movement when you look behind you in the simulator so left/right head movement isn't so confusing. I know TrackIR can do both these things so it should be possible.
@@A330Driver A great feature with the tobii in the CRJ is that you can lock on to the landing field elevation knob and adjust it while looking at the display 😃 No more guessing!
Danke fürs Feedback! Was gefällt dir denn an den Rezensionen nicht? Eigentlich alles was ich im Video gesagt habe, meine ich auch so. Sicher ist das Video gesponsored, aber ich habe nirgendwo bewusst übertrieben. Im Zweifel würde ich es einfach mal ausprobieren und sonst eben zurückschicken. Die EU machts ja zum Glück möglich.
Nice and useful video, as usual👍🏻 Question: I'm trying a Quest 2 VR headset, which I like very much and it makes me dream, but I'm still very unhappy for the graphic quality (despite of my gaming pc specs, surely more than high) with headache, nausea, etc; but the real plus is that if i look at my down right - thus moving my head - I still have in front of me on the headset what I should see (example: radio panel); with Toby what happens? How can I get it if I move my head say to the right and I necessarily have to watch the monitor? Looks a very interesting nice-to-have, but I would like not to replace the headache with a stiff neck 😀
There's a translation between the movement of your head and your camera movement. You can make that a custom setting. I for example set it so that 20 degree movement of my head in real life equals 90 degrees in the sim.
We say that whenever the disarm light comes on as a reminder that manual braking is needed. If RTO mode is used upon landing they'll disarm two seconds after touchdown.
@@A330Driver I'm just curious. Is there any other effect on landing when RTO is selected compared to OFF? Did you basically land without any autobrakes at all? If yes, is there any specific reason for that or did you just forget to set the autobrakes?
Moin ! Seems a handy and useful device. It's a while since you made this video, do you still use it for your flying ? I've started to helicopters, so I really need something to make my life easier. It's not exactly cheap, can you justify the expense ? Danke ! Ronnie
Mr. Emanual, I use TRACK-IR and in the settings i freezed the head movement in X, Y and Z direction within + and - 10 degrees. So first i have to move my head for 10 degrees than the TRACK IR starts to work. This makes the basic starting view much calmer. 2nd. I can freeze any view direction with my middle mouse-wheelbutton, so if i will turn a knob or switch i freeze the view and that make it more easy to turn or push buttons etc. Is this also possible with the Tobii Eye Tracker. A.Koolmees The Netherlands
Two questions: is it really mandatory that the base of your monitor where you stick the Tobii be on the same eyelevel with you? Secondly, do you need to delete TrackIR from your harddrive before installing Tobii or can both be on the system at the same time?!?
Hi, mine is mounted around 15cm below my eye level and it works just fine. I never used TrackIR on this computer so I don't know if that would have an influence. Tobii got a great discord though where you can get quick answers to your questions, maybe try there.
Thanks for review! Would you also test it in VFR with a G1000/3000 panel? How does the the mouse movement/precission work?I think the mouse should not move with head movmement like in VR, but it does. Is it a problem?
Hi, it's been a while since I used the Tobii Eye Tracker, I'm afraid I'm not all that good with its settings anymore. it was a set and forget setting. Once I had them done, I never touched those settings again, but left them as they were.
Thanks for the review. I like your videos. However, I'm yet to find a Tobii reviewer who's not been contacted by Tobii. They've gone lengths to get their product to the public here on RUclips. If anybody know a review video, who paid for the product and independently reviewed this without Tobii's consent, can you please share? 😊
Good morning Emmanuel I recently watched one of your old videos when you gave your impressions of vr. I seriously would like you to give it another chance on a modern cpu/gpu many advancements Have been made since then. while the eye tracker is nice it’s still not natural to look left or right but keep your eye on the monitor. I promise you my vr setup is silky smooth and once you go 3d you’ll never go back to flat again
Hi Rob, My old VR video was made with a 3080Ti, except for getting a 4090 I really don't see how I could do great improvements there to get better fps. And then there still is the problem that I could hardly read my instruments, even when maxing the settings out.
@@A330Driver yes i have a 3090ti, so i imagine 4090 will make a huge difference especially paired with a 12th or 13th gen cpu. As far as settings use dlss instead of taa and openxr toolkit set to a really high resolution. For me personally I’m doing 40 fps over nyc and 50 to 60 fps anywhere else. But I definitely understand how things where choppy and stuttering back then why you have your reservations about vr. When you do eventually give it a try again I’m looking forward to your updated vr impressions video, I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Im running top specs with a top headset in 2024. I can say that despite its looking nice its not quite the same as a clear monitor...settings are all correct and things just look like a dream states but not like a 4k monitor. Its just not the same. I use the Tobii 5 and its amazing and ease of use. I also can dogfight easier with trackir since I can spot......and the hmd just get too uncomfortable after a while even the lighter ones. There are so many other factors I can go into, why its not ideal. For the quick 20 minute flight fine....to feel the depth perception etc.....and feel that slightly extra immersion.....but its not good for anything longer....and all the faff around it. Maybe in 10 years time they will have something to consider - maybe contact lenses ......but until then........we shall see. @@spediegunz
Tobii is fine I suppose if you can get it to work.I have had mine for 10 days and my pc cant find it.Tech support no help.It works on my second pc.Go figure LOL
I never tried that actually. But since the cable not only provides power but also provides the data to the computer I would not know why I would want to do that in first place. Better to ask your question directly to their support.
Looks like when using the head tracking, the screen size recommendations do not really apply apparently, its at the bottom of the product page in the FAQ.
Also i think they should rename it to head/eye tracker, its name is the first thing people see and becouse of that they might skip this device as just an eye tracking gimmick in their mind, before delving a bit deeper.
Question from someone who has never used an eye or head tracker: Given that we must obviously always be looking at the monitor, isn't awkward or un-natural to turn our head say right to signal the device that we want to look "right" in the cockpit, but then have to gaze to the *_left_* to keep seeing the monitor, because our head is no longer pointing at the monitor itself? Is this even an issue? Is it something simple to get used to?
Indeed it is as first, took me two or three days until I was comfortable with it. The translation of your head movement into camera movement however isn't 1:1 so you only need minimal head movent to move the camera, which makes it alright.
I’m fortunate to have a 55” OLED tv I sim on and Tobii does ok but not amazing on this. Also the inability to not hit F12 to pause your position like you can with Track IR is very annoying to me personally
Another feature missing is the "TrueView" feature. With this enabled, let's say you're looking left through the left window, or say you're looking at the ipad mounted on the left window. To get a closer look, you could lean forward (I mean toward the left window). Without TrueView, if you did that, it would lean you closer to the front window instead of the left one (which is the one you're facing). Meaning without TrueView, the front of the cockpit remains your front no matter where you're facing, but With TrueView, wherever you're facing is your front. My tobii is nicely mounted on my monitor, but at this point, it's a decoration, and that's because of these 2 features TrueView and Freeze.
If I change my sensitivity settings the sim asks me to save a new profile. but then the eye tracker doesn't work anymore. Where is my fault? If I switch back to the default profile it works again.
After trying it for about a week, I send it back. The latency and the lack of precision compared to my Track IR is something which needs a lot of improvement.
Do forgive me but I must be missing something here....VR is unbelievable, I haven't put down my Reverb G2 since I got it 2yrs ago. Trackers like this can't compare with VR. Can't understand the fuss about this eye tracker???? Can someone explain? What am I missing??
I also have a G2, can't even read my instruments due to the resolution. The framerate is also quite bad, while the Tobii doesn't impact performance at all.
Thats only when holding down the right mouse button to change view. Better assign "toggle cockpit freelook" to your middle mouse button -> problem solved.
Good question, I'd recommend to ask it to the Tobii support. According to the manual it needs to be at the bottom of the screen, but I would assume they therefore need it below you head. But send them a mail or ask in their discord to get an official answer.
any idea why, when using my tobi 5 (head tracking only enabled) my cockpit view is behind the pilots seat and no matter what i do, i cannot adjust it. google no help yet. anyone have an idea/fix?
I don't agree with any of this. I've tried the Tobii tracker for weeks and it has major faults. First - it has a lot of lag and jerkiness even with vsync enabled. It doesn't have proper 6 degrees of movement because pitch and yaw are controlled by the same slider, as are left/right up/down and forward/back which are ALL linked to the same control, so you cannot set ANY of these individually. I returned to my trusted joystick and keyboard controls which are just as good and unlike the Tobii, completely stable.
I don't get how this thing works. I mean if I turn my head 90° in real life,then I don't look at the display anymore...I don't get how this makes sense or how this works. And when I lean forward,I will eventually bump into the monitor with my head lol
It works fine on my 42" screen, even though no more than 30 is advertised. Might be worth trying, if you live in the EU you could always send it back if it doesn't work.
It is impossible to use this when switching things around in the cockpit. Every minimal head movement changing mouse positions so you have to switch it off and after cockpit preparation on. So for PMDG and airliners is extremely useless.👎 It costs about €240. For same money you can have HTC or Oculus VR set. So totally there is no point to spend money for this eye tracker at all.
@@m3taleye Yeah, the loss of graphical fidelity is significant, which is precisely one of the strongest points of MSFS (and then there is the fps hit as well). Also the cost of VR, the fact that something heavy or kinda heavy is on your head and not being able to see the room you are in, are for me very big downsides for VR. I am sure it is really nice to have the inside cocpit feel, but it just not weigh up against the cons.
I tried going VR (even did a video on it back then) but the lack or sharpness and even the lack of not being able to read my basic flight instruments was a huge downturn for me. Also my fps were really bad with it. I've never been able to resolve those problems so in the end - as nice as it is to "sit IN" the Cockpit, I just couldn't get to like it.
@@A330Driver It gives better freedom of movement. Greater angles. Also (Tobii) if you got a large ultrawide monitor it cannot work (or if you wear glasses in my case). I got both glasses and ultrawide. Also try looking backwards in your seat and move left or right and it does not undestand that it should move the opposite way. (Edit) TrackIR is also a lot most responsive and precise.
I got a TrackIR for DCS one year ago. I like it very much, but for civil flight sims I like the mouse control a lot more
Mouse control in msfs sucks on the ground when taxiing because when looking around with the mouse it freezes control inputs! So if you enter a left turn then pan before easing control pressure, the left pressure will stay on! Shocking design. Same with braking etc. I have my hatswitch configured for quicklook
I think when not using VR a head or eye tracker is a must have in MSFS! It's a so much better experience. Now I personally use TrackIR, but thought about buying Tobii because you don't need anything additional attached to your head. Now it would be great to have a comparison - maybe you'll get TrackIR to sponsor a review too :)
The only reason I dont like Track IR is the need to wear a hat
@@Hyestar You can attach a thing to your headset. It's extra though.
I have a vr headset but still use sometimes the trackir5 as it is higher fps and better visuals on my 32 inch 4k monitor, and much more confortable. Instruments are more readable. My vr headset i bought in 2017 was the best at the time with OLED 90hz and 1440x1600 per eyes but it is not a 4k monitor, and the fps is divided by more than 2 and that by reducing high/ultra to medium. It still good from time to time for vfr to use the vr headset and use the trackir5 for more technical flight.
@@Hyestarthe clip pro adapt to the headphone. The cheapest track clip yes fixes on a hat but it is not as accurate as the track clip pro, however the clip pro is fragile. I manipulate the arm with care. My wife broke my previous one.
I have mine mounted to my cockpit panel. Works just fine and apart from the red LED's you don't even know it's there.
Thanks for this. I have an older version of the Tobii Eye Tracker. I had thought about getting the 5, but wasn't sure how well it actually worked with MSFS. Seeing this answers most of my questions. I may have to get one.
I absolutely love my Tobii Eye Tracker 5. It's also great in DCS.. For MSFS I turned off the eye tracking portion and only use head tracking and slowed it down so it doesn't jerk around so much. If I want to look at the FMC i pause it and use a presaved window
Pretty similar to I use it as well. It's very nice for those phases where you just need the hands on the controls.
I've been using the Tobii Eye tracker 5 for a few months now and I like it. I don't use it during the whole flight though in MSFS. Mostly do the same you do during taxi, take off, landing and taxi again. I don't use it for pre-flight, post-flight and during flight unless I want to sight see. I do use it 100% of the time for DCS though. I like it so much that I barely use my Meta Quest 2. No problems with the Meta Quest 2 but Tobii allows me to actually see my keyboard and control buttons, etc., which I find better. One thing you didn't mention is that Tobii allows you to unlock your PC instead of keyboard as it's certified for this. It also works with many other games. I've been meaning to use it for Codemasters F1 2022 but I haven't played that game for a while. But I also recommend it. People just need to be patient and play around with the axis sensitivity and settings. Good luck to the winner.
Hi, I actually wasn't aware the Tobii could do that! I'll give it a try!
I have been using TrackIR for many years, I love it. Other than not having to wear a hat or a headset, I don't understand the benefit of the eye tracker. I get that it tracks your head movements, and it looks as though it does a great job. But what's the deal with the actual eye tracking? How do you benefit from it? Can you map a button so when you look at something (gear lever, switch, button etc..) you can interact with it while looking at it, like you would with a mouse pointer and left/right click?
Thanks to this video just picked this up, I used your link don't know if you get anything from it. This was the next step for me. I used to have track IR but I hated having to wear something all the time so I switched to notrackir with a logitech camera. This worked well for driving and truck sims where I only had to look left and right but constantly had to be reset, but it was worth the tradeoff for not having to wear anything. However for flight sims where you had to look down and up it was horrible. VR is great but similar to trackir I hate wearing things on my head (even headphones). Im hoping this is the natural next step, my only grievance is that it has to stick to one monitor so I can't use it on my racing rig but the old logitech method will do for that. On a side note thanks for the content, I found this channel a few weeks back and its a daily watch for me now! As a somewhat large youtuber myself I can tell you put in the effort and are well on your way to 100k!
Thank you very good video👏👏 I have a 49 inch Samsung Monitor I don't use eye tracking BUT it does work well, I like to use head tracking and it works vey well
The Tobii is awesome. I personally use it without eye tracking, but its awesome and has worked flawlessly for several months now.
Humorous, but I use it and disable it same as you. Through use I just found I dont like it on during MCDU setup, as well as during CRZ flight it isnt needed.
Holy cow... that is f****** awesome! 🤯 The video wasn't even halfway through, and my wallet literally burned a hole through my pocket, trying to get out😂
Thank you, sir, for the information and honest feedback about this. I had looked at something similar in the past, but I wasn't really sure how it would work or if it would even be worth using. This could be a game changer in certain situations for me personally. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing your settings. I own a Tobii 5 since 2 weeks now, and I still don't know if I like it in MSFS. During taxi its awesome, during flight for looking around too. In the fixed camera positions you can't move normally you can with your eye tracker, thats pretty cool. But its sometimes too sensitive in my opinion, when you look to your instruments, I dont want the whole "head" to move. After that is takes too long to go back to center or looking trough window. I'm thinking shutting down the eye tracking and only use the head tracking might work. First gonna try your settings. Thanks for this video. And I love the Tobii in all other games I use it with, just not sure for MSFS, as sometimes looking with the mouse is more efficient.
I agree about the sensitivity for sure. I turned down the eye tracking but might go to head tracking only. Need to get used to this for sure
I have the Tobii 5 also since about 4 weeks. In the beginning it takes some time getting used to it. I also switched of the eye tracking, use only headtracking otherwise you can't turn a switch, very nervous on screen. Also during CDU programming off, also during cruise mostly off. But indeed a very nice add-on.
Exactly how I do it as well!
Same here, sometimes it works very well, sometimes its better with the mouse. I use it mostly during taxi and in cruise when i'm looking around and in the fixed cameras.
yep, it depends on the use case. For airliners, turn eye tracking off. If you're bush flying/gliding, it's nice to have some eye tracking.
That's so cool. You should do more videos with the Ghost Bubble!
I tired one for DCs but retuned it after 2 weeks. Not being able to add curves for the head is a no-go for combat sims as I could not look more than 90 deg to the side. The eye tracking also made it hard to read some gauges as I would look at them then the tracker would move my view further away. Really cool tech, not better than TIR for DCS/IL2
I use my TrackIR from 2012. No problems.
Perfect timing. Mine arrives today. I order it two days ago. Good to see how a real 737 pilots likes it.
Let me know how you like yours!
....because he earns money with every device you buy.
Use it in Star Citizen, I love it, just a whole new experience! Cant go wrong with Tobii or TrackIR.
Thanks Kurt. Am experimenting with FS2020 triple monitor implementation which works fine with NVidia Surround. Your Opentrack comments and guidance excellent. I understand Tobi does not support FS2020 Triple monitor.
Great video and thanks. I am a fan of the Tobii 5 as just ordered one. I also have a Varjo Aero but its a real faff and not quite the same at all visually. May I ask what in VR you tried recently and why you prefer personally trackir..i.e the Tonii Eye? Thanks in advance
Thanks for your insight. Funny thing, I was already planning on purchasing a tobii eye tracker today before I saw this video. I currently use trackir but it can be a little finicky when I'm in msfs 2020. So, I've decided to give the tobii eye tracker a go. Thanks again for the video.
My TrackIr would stutter sometimes and its frustrating. Plus I have it installed on a dedicated baseball hat. I finally took the decision and purchased the Tobi today. I expect it to be a better experience. One question - Do you need to activate it before starting MSFS or can do it in game. Hate having to restart game to activate TrackIr.
First of all, this is an excellent video on how to fly does heavy aircraft, aside from the use of the eyetracker. I recently bought a very high-end machine running a 4090 card, and the 7800 X 3-D processor, and I think it can easily handle the processing needed for these are trackers. What I’d like to know is how better is this than using a program such as FacetrackNoIR? I install this in my computer, and it seems to track my head quite nicely. You do have control of all the input curves, but I really haven’t found the perfect curves yet that allow me to move my head without this tracker going all over the place. I’m looking at either this eyetracker or the track IR system and I’m still on the fence of which one to get. Please help me make this decision. Do I drop the big bucks with this I tracker or do I go for the lower dollars with the hat, mounted tracker, or do I just fine-tune the current free face tracking software that I have?
Hi, I only had an older version of track ir so I can’t compare the Tobii with the latest, but what I really preferred on the tobii was that I didn’t need to have a hat on while flying. That was my big downturn with track ir back in the day.
@@A330Driver I have tried FacetrackNOir and, while it works, it is too unstable to allow you to fly and look at the windows at the same time, especially in a helicopter. So I spent the bucks and got the.Tobbi 5
Thanks for the great video - I have Track IR, VR and Tobii 5. Have to say all these methods fit different circumstances. Sometimes I want to play VR and thats fine, other times i'll settle in for a longer play session and have plenty of time therefore i'll use Track IR and if I just want to get in game quickly and not bother with a headset or headphones for Track IR then Tobii is ideal. This is also true of other flight sims such as DCS. Therefore, all the methods have a purpose - but for pure ease of use and no hassle Tobii is excellent and very, very good.
Where do you see the difference between Tobii and track IR? The way I used both was pretty much the same and I liked the Tobii way more.
@@A330Driver Hi 737 - I would say that TrackIR is a more 'mature' product and works very well indeed particularly in flight sims like DCS where you are, at times, moving your head very quickly. Tobii can struggle with this quick movement and can be a bit jerky too when moving quickly. However, Tobii for MSFS is ideal as there is no real need to be moving your head at quick speeds as its a more leisurely experience. So for me TrackIR can be more responsive for games like DCS, Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen etc. when engaging in 'combat' whereas Tobii is better suited to slower paced sims like MSFS, ETS2 etc. I do use Tobii on DCS sometimes but it's responsiveness can be a barrier at times in 'combat' as it is not quite as responsive as TrackIR.
I use my webcam + OpenTrack (which is free of charge) for this - anyway it's always a bit strange for me to move my head while starring at the screen with my eyes. I think nothing really can beat VR here besides a full 6DOF rig. However first I need a proper computer to run such a VR setup, but it's is planned so the Tobii would be just some waste of money for me right now.
Can you please do a flight out of Porto (LPPR) or a circuit using back to Porto (LPPR) demonstrating both LNAV/VNAV, VOR and speed management for both RWYs, 35 and 17? as i believe this is a great training environment for us. Route for RWY 35: MANIK DCT ABLEG, and RWY 17: MANIG ABLEG... cruise FL110 (this should cover both the SID and STAR) using combinations for VOR, RNAV and ILS. Please also discuss the engine out procedures and how you enter these in the FMC as i'm trying to learn this particular area, please.
This seems to be a better option than TrackIR. I purchased trackIR some 8 years ago or so, and I can count on my hands how many times I've used it. Conotrolling my view, turning it constantly on and off, and frequently resetting positions not to mention wearing a hat which I never do were all factors in giving up on the tech.
You had the track clip and not the track clip pro that fixes on the headphone and much more accurate. I still have it today and works great. It is fragile though with the arm. I manipulate with care.
I'm a TrackIR user since the very first model back in the day. I have thrown my old TIR 5 away, which didn't really work anymore. I got the eye tracker then. Never looked back! BTW I leave the eye tracking on a very low level of like 5-10%. This helps me with fine control and focusing on a spot.
That's sometime I'll have to try as well! So you just set the tracking ratio to 0.9 or how do you do it?
@@A330Driver Exactly! With 0.5 or so it's way too jittery but 0.1 for eye tracking it does work for me. The eye tracking is very slow now. Like precision mode in TIR. Works for me, but your mileage might vary. Might as well use deadzone instead I think.
Had it for a week and I don’t find myself using it much. So very pricey for minimal use. Considering return via Amazon but I used the adjustable mount. So maybe I’ll play with it for another week
Instant buy for me as soon as I have my new config.
Who already has an iPhone with Face Id can also use the App Smooth Track with Open Track. You wont have eye tracking, But its cheaper and a bit more precise in my opinion.
I'll give it a go, how does it impact your iPhone battery? And how long does it last?
@@A330Driver im connecting via usb so that the latency is better. But didnt had any problems via wifi since the app dimms the screen. I never drained the battery in a flight. Running on 14 Pro
I have also considered to buy the Tobii eye tracker but unfortunately as soon as I know this requires max distance from the display of around 1 meter. For me it is not feasible because I am using the 65 inch OLED TV as the monitor and I am sitting around 2 meters away. Now I have installed the conventional web cam on the TV and AITrack & OpenTrack free software, which allows head tracking very similar to what Emanuel has shown in his video. Working quite good for me for taxi, takeoff and landing. During the cockpit preparations and cruise it is usually off.
They advise a distance of up to 95cm from the screen. If you love in the EU it might be worth getting it for a try and if it doesn't work you could still send it back.
I've had the tobii for a few months now and use it when not in VR. I use it much the same way you do. I tend to leave it off during pre-flight and use the view keys to select views. Especially in the 737 as it doesn't use the lock on system for switches like the CRJ. The features I miss the most is the ability to pause it and leave it in it's current position rather than having the view reset like it does when you turn it off. I'd also like it to reverse the position movement when you look behind you in the simulator so left/right head movement isn't so confusing. I know TrackIR can do both these things so it should be possible.
Indeed that'd be a nice extra feature!
@@A330Driver A great feature with the tobii in the CRJ is that you can lock on to the landing field elevation knob and adjust it while looking at the display 😃 No more guessing!
Got mine today. Can't wait to try it!!!
Let me know how you like it!
Thanks again great video & the helpful hints getting me from prop to jets and bus jet h-jet is now my favourite so thanks again
MrMole13
Definitely a must have for every flightsimmer. I can't go without it at this moment!
Definitely waste of money bcz you can have VR set for this eye tracker price.
@@blackhorse8427 Of course your computer has to be powerful enough to use VR.
Hi Buddy, love your vids! Any chance you would be able to share with us your graphics settings please? Thank you!
Hi, I posted them in the community tab a while ago. Nothing dramatically changed since then.
Sehr schönes Werbevideo. Die Rezensionen haben mich dann doch abgeschreckt. Mich würde ein Vergleich zum freeware headtracking interessieren.
Danke fürs Feedback! Was gefällt dir denn an den Rezensionen nicht? Eigentlich alles was ich im Video gesagt habe, meine ich auch so. Sicher ist das Video gesponsored, aber ich habe nirgendwo bewusst übertrieben.
Im Zweifel würde ich es einfach mal ausprobieren und sonst eben zurückschicken. Die EU machts ja zum Glück möglich.
Nice and useful video, as usual👍🏻 Question: I'm trying a Quest 2 VR headset, which I like very much and it makes me dream, but I'm still very unhappy for the graphic quality (despite of my gaming pc specs, surely more than high) with headache, nausea, etc; but the real plus is that if i look at my down right - thus moving my head - I still have in front of me on the headset what I should see (example: radio panel); with Toby what happens? How can I get it if I move my head say to the right and I necessarily have to watch the monitor?
Looks a very interesting nice-to-have, but I would like not to replace the headache with a stiff neck 😀
There's a translation between the movement of your head and your camera movement. You can make that a custom setting. I for example set it so that 20 degree movement of my head in real life equals 90 degrees in the sim.
ok, that's useful - thx and pls post further videos ;-) @@A330Driver
U said Autobrakes disarmed after the touchdown. But were they even armed in Reject Takeoff mode?
We say that whenever the disarm light comes on as a reminder that manual braking is needed.
If RTO mode is used upon landing they'll disarm two seconds after touchdown.
@@A330Driver And the 2 seconds before how much brakepower will RTO apply?
@@A330Driver I'm just curious. Is there any other effect on landing when RTO is selected compared to OFF? Did you basically land without any autobrakes at all? If yes, is there any specific reason for that or did you just forget to set the autobrakes?
I have a question for you, how do you make your mouse cursor smaller in the flight simulator?
Moin ! Seems a handy and useful device. It's a while since you made this video, do you still use it for your flying ? I've started to helicopters, so I really need something to make my life easier. It's not exactly cheap, can you justify the expense ? Danke ! Ronnie
Mr. Emanual, I use TRACK-IR and in the settings i freezed the head movement in X, Y and Z direction within + and - 10 degrees. So first i have to move my head for 10 degrees than the TRACK IR starts to work. This makes the basic starting view much calmer.
2nd. I can freeze any view direction with my middle mouse-wheelbutton, so if i will turn a knob or switch i freeze the view and that make it more easy to turn or push buttons etc. Is this also possible with the Tobii Eye Tracker.
A.Koolmees The Netherlands
I do more or less the same and would also be interested in an answer to your question.
Two questions: is it really mandatory that the base of your monitor where you stick the Tobii be on the same eyelevel with you? Secondly, do you need to delete TrackIR from your harddrive before installing Tobii or can both be on the system at the same time?!?
Hi, mine is mounted around 15cm below my eye level and it works just fine.
I never used TrackIR on this computer so I don't know if that would have an influence.
Tobii got a great discord though where you can get quick answers to your questions, maybe try there.
@@A330Driver Ok, much thanks.
Compared to TrackIR you don't need to wear something on your head and the eye movements are being tracked - any other benefit of Tobii Eye Tracker?
Are the fsrealistic shaking effects still working using this product and does it have any influence for the performance? Great video!
They still work and I did not see any impact on performance.
They still work and I did not see any impact on performance.
Thanks for review! Would you also test it in VFR with a G1000/3000 panel? How does the the mouse movement/precission work?I think the mouse should not move with head movmement like in VR, but it does. Is it a problem?
What is the name of the reset default viewing position in MSFS? 05.40, thanks, Leo
How is it to change knob or nav or autopilot data with tobii?
Hi, can I ask you about the various differences that the internal settings of the tobii have in the simulator?
Hi, it's been a while since I used the Tobii Eye Tracker, I'm afraid I'm not all that good with its settings anymore. it was a set and forget setting. Once I had them done, I never touched those settings again, but left them as they were.
Thanks for the review. I like your videos. However, I'm yet to find a Tobii reviewer who's not been contacted by Tobii. They've gone lengths to get their product to the public here on RUclips. If anybody know a review video, who paid for the product and independently reviewed this without Tobii's consent, can you please share? 😊
I believe flightdeck2sim bought his copy before tobii started their campaigns, try and search for his vid.
@@A330Driver Thanks Capt!
Good morning Emmanuel I recently watched one of your old videos when you gave your impressions of vr. I seriously would like you to give it another chance on a modern cpu/gpu many advancements Have been made since then. while the eye tracker is nice it’s still not natural to look left or right but keep your eye on the monitor. I promise you my vr setup is silky smooth and once you go 3d you’ll never go back to flat again
Hi Rob,
My old VR video was made with a 3080Ti, except for getting a 4090 I really don't see how I could do great improvements there to get better fps.
And then there still is the problem that I could hardly read my instruments, even when maxing the settings out.
@@A330Driver yes i have a 3090ti, so i imagine 4090 will make a huge difference especially paired with a 12th or 13th gen cpu. As far as settings use dlss instead of taa and openxr toolkit set to a really high resolution.
For me personally I’m doing 40 fps over nyc and 50 to 60 fps anywhere else. But I definitely understand how things where choppy and stuttering back then why you have your reservations about vr. When you do eventually give it a try again I’m looking forward to your updated vr impressions video, I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Im running top specs with a top headset in 2024. I can say that despite its looking nice its not quite the same as a clear monitor...settings are all correct and things just look like a dream states but not like a 4k monitor. Its just not the same. I use the Tobii 5 and its amazing and ease of use. I also can dogfight easier with trackir since I can spot......and the hmd just get too uncomfortable after a while even the lighter ones. There are so many other factors I can go into, why its not ideal. For the quick 20 minute flight fine....to feel the depth perception etc.....and feel that slightly extra immersion.....but its not good for anything longer....and all the faff around it. Maybe in 10 years time they will have something to consider - maybe contact lenses ......but until then........we shall see. @@spediegunz
Tobii is fine I suppose if you can get it to work.I have had mine for 10 days and my pc cant find it.Tech support no help.It works on my second pc.Go figure LOL
Can you plug the tobii tracker into the monitor usb or it does not provide enough V? So you have to plug-in into usb port in your PC?
I never tried that actually. But since the cable not only provides power but also provides the data to the computer I would not know why I would want to do that in first place.
Better to ask your question directly to their support.
Welcome to Nürnberg :D
Looks like when using the head tracking, the screen size recommendations do not really apply apparently, its at the bottom of the product page in the FAQ.
Also i think they should rename it to head/eye tracker, its name is the first thing people see and becouse of that they might skip this device as just an eye tracking gimmick in their mind, before delving a bit deeper.
Question from someone who has never used an eye or head tracker: Given that we must obviously always be looking at the monitor, isn't awkward or un-natural to turn our head say right to signal the device that we want to look "right" in the cockpit, but then have to gaze to the *_left_* to keep seeing the monitor, because our head is no longer pointing at the monitor itself? Is this even an issue? Is it something simple to get used to?
Indeed it is as first, took me two or three days until I was comfortable with it.
The translation of your head movement into camera movement however isn't 1:1 so you only need minimal head movent to move the camera, which makes it alright.
@@A330Driver Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
I’m fortunate to have a 55” OLED tv I sim on and Tobii does ok but not amazing on this. Also the inability to not hit F12 to pause your position like you can with Track IR is very annoying to me personally
That's indeed something I'd like to see them add as well.
Another feature missing is the "TrueView" feature. With this enabled, let's say you're looking left through the left window, or say you're looking at the ipad mounted on the left window. To get a closer look, you could lean forward (I mean toward the left window). Without TrueView, if you did that, it would lean you closer to the front window instead of the left one (which is the one you're facing). Meaning without TrueView, the front of the cockpit remains your front no matter where you're facing, but With TrueView, wherever you're facing is your front. My tobii is nicely mounted on my monitor, but at this point, it's a decoration, and that's because of these 2 features TrueView and Freeze.
I wonder if you are stationed or live in Nuremberg as you are there quite a lot. If you are, servus.
If I change my sensitivity settings the sim asks me to save a new profile. but then the eye tracker doesn't work anymore. Where is my fault? If I switch back to the default profile it works again.
Is this different from a TrackIR? I still have a TrackIR5 and wondered why they dont make them anymore.
It's different in that you don't need to wear a headset to use it.
Now we only have to test if using glasses works that well in daylight and in the dark 🤓
I’ve had my tobii tracker for two years, can confirm it works perfectly fine with my glasses.
I did, works perfectly fine for me.
I wonder if it would be useful for simracing too. By the way, unfortunate launch time for the video, their web is down!
This would be incredibly useful in simracing. Not only looking in to your turns, but for situational awareness when overtaking/being overtaken.
Hello, what screen do you have to use this?
Hi, it should work with any non curved one. Personally I’m using a 42“ one (I believe their maximum advertised size is 30“, but it still works fine).
After trying it for about a week, I send it back. The latency and the lack of precision compared to my Track IR is something which needs a lot of improvement.
Sorry to hear that. But good choice trying yourself to make your own opinion!
Do forgive me but I must be missing something here....VR is unbelievable, I haven't put down my Reverb G2 since I got it 2yrs ago. Trackers like this can't compare with VR. Can't understand the fuss about this eye tracker???? Can someone explain? What am I missing??
I also have a G2, can't even read my instruments due to the resolution. The framerate is also quite bad, while the Tobii doesn't impact performance at all.
Last night I had it in my Amazon cart but refrained because I hadn’t seen a review on it. Are you a mind reader?
Hahaha, that's what I call timing! Check out the link in the description for a 15% discount, that's probably going to be cheaper than Amazon!
@@A330Driver and free shipping. Bought
Hi! How do you turn on the bubble in game? Is this a video stream only feature?
Hi, you need the Tobii ghost app for that, you can get it for free from their website.
@@A330Driver Thank you! I will try it.
Yes I found when any set of eye tracking vs head tracking was on It would make me dizzy or just get annoying.
it took me around two or three days to get fully used to it. Thereafter I started to love it though
Does it work with FSRealistic?
Yes
How did you overcome the issue where the rudders will not work while panning the camera around?
Thats only when holding down the right mouse button to change view. Better assign "toggle cockpit freelook" to your middle mouse button -> problem solved.
As Rocco says
Will it work if my 43 inch TV is high above my head while sitting
Good question, I'd recommend to ask it to the Tobii support. According to the manual it needs to be at the bottom of the screen, but I would assume they therefore need it below you head. But send them a mail or ask in their discord to get an official answer.
any idea why, when using my tobi 5 (head tracking only enabled) my cockpit view is behind the pilots seat and no matter what i do, i cannot adjust it. google no help yet. anyone have an idea/fix?
MSFS bug, use the reset eye tracking function to fix it. Might have to press it twice.
Well, this explains a lot lol. I'm curious, how many monitors do you have in your setup?
Hi Julio, I'm using a single screen setup and an iPad additionally.
Sadly you never showed the physical setup. Do you need a hat with the device on like TrackIR?
You don't need to wear anything. Simply a plug-n-play device.
It tracks you head and eyes, no need to have anything attached to you like track IR needed.
Hi Jack, as the others say, you don't need to wear anything.
Track IR is better and does the same exact thing
I don't agree with any of this. I've tried the Tobii tracker for weeks and it has major faults. First - it has a lot of lag and jerkiness even with vsync enabled. It doesn't have proper 6 degrees of movement because pitch and yaw are controlled by the same slider, as are left/right up/down and forward/back which are ALL linked to the same control, so you cannot set ANY of these individually. I returned to my trusted joystick and keyboard controls which are just as good and unlike the Tobii, completely stable.
mmh, maybe your copy was defect. I've never had any of those issues you mention.
I don't get how this thing works. I mean if I turn my head 90° in real life,then I don't look at the display anymore...I don't get how this makes sense or how this works. And when I lean forward,I will eventually bump into the monitor with my head lol
That’s what the sensitivity is for. You don’t need to look 90 degrees left IRL to get 90 degrees left in sim.
@@K0S0s - but is it tracking your head, or your eyes?
@@zk9058 did you even watch the video?
@@K0S0s oh...that makes sense
Too bad this won't work for 55" screens
It works fine on my 42" screen, even though no more than 30 is advertised. Might be worth trying, if you live in the EU you could always send it back if it doesn't work.
@@A330Driver thanks I've been waiting to get this I will definitely order it
It is impossible to use this when switching things around in the cockpit. Every minimal head movement changing mouse positions so you have to switch it off and after cockpit preparation on. So for PMDG and airliners is extremely useless.👎
It costs about €240. For same money you can have HTC or Oculus VR set. So totally there is no point to spend money for this eye tracker at all.
Simply reduce sensitivity settings and that problem is solved.
ANY VR headset at this price point will be just trash.
Who needs an Eye Tracker when VR is a thing? ;)
@@m3taleye I guess you never had VR Goggles on. Lack of sharpness be damned, the presence of being IN the cockpit beats looking at a monitor by miles.
@@m3taleye Yeah, the loss of graphical fidelity is significant, which is precisely one of the strongest points of MSFS (and then there is the fps hit as well). Also the cost of VR, the fact that something heavy or kinda heavy is on your head and not being able to see the room you are in, are for me very big downsides for VR. I am sure it is really nice to have the inside cocpit feel, but it just not weigh up against the cons.
@@m3taleye A QD Oled 21:9 and a 4090...now that must be looking nice.
I tried going VR (even did a video on it back then) but the lack or sharpness and even the lack of not being able to read my basic flight instruments was a huge downturn for me.
Also my fps were really bad with it.
I've never been able to resolve those problems so in the end - as nice as it is to "sit IN" the Cockpit, I just couldn't get to like it.
@@m3taleye Yeah, must be awesome, maybe someday I will buy a monitor like that as well.
Sorry, I'm one of the first who bought the eye tracker and It's not comparable to TrackIR. With TrackIR being superior.
How that? I've been using TrackIR a bit in the past but really disliked it. What do you think makes it better?
@@A330Driver It gives better freedom of movement. Greater angles. Also (Tobii) if you got a large ultrawide monitor it cannot work (or if you wear glasses in my case). I got both glasses and ultrawide. Also try looking backwards in your seat and move left or right and it does not undestand that it should move the opposite way. (Edit) TrackIR is also a lot most responsive and precise.
Lol wait till you try VR with the varjo
£220 LOL!!! tad expensive.
I don't really think so, it's very much in the range where other hardware is as well. Of course "expensive" will seem different for everybody.