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This is why I really enjoy the existence of TAS communities. I’m totally cool and really love seeing crazy stuff done, as long as it is directly stated that it is using external tools.
I feel like in certain games it's super interesting, but in this case it's not really as the thing that makes freestyling cool is the difficulty of it, it doesn't really accomplish anything whereas TAS is used in a lot of games to show theoretical maximums etc
yeah exactly! i feel like having videos like those around wouldnt even be much of a controversy at all for the community, if he was just upfront about it being tool-assisted to look cooler, cause often inhuman stunts just look incredible to watch. It really is just him claiming he drove it by himself thats the fundemental issue.
The funny thing in this case, is that if what Shimmy submitted these as TASes, it would *still* be cheating because there is no valid sequence of controls that would result in the same replay that Shimmy produced.
I’m confused how this is considered cheating. Theres no opponents or competition, he’s just trying to make some cool clips. Its your own fault for being deceived if anything.
@@KiyaWarrior you must be the only one online that's confused. He literally got his spot on a freestyle team from these faked clips, per the explanation in the video. It is the very definition of cheating. And they might have been initially deceived, but they figured out that it wasn't legit and exposed it. So I don't see how trying to make them the villains instead of the fraud does anything.
Thankfully the rocket league competitive and professional scene has not seen any cheating yet. There are simply no cheats or AI smart enough that would help in a competitive environment. It's one of the reasons why I've had so much fun with it, compared to games like CS:GO where once you get high enough, you are bound to run into cheaters.
I wish that were true 😂 there are cheaters EVERYWHERE in rocket league. The game simply doesn’t allow you to do some of the things I’ve seen and what we’ve tested. Infinite boost is a thing, extra base speed is a thing, choosing your power up’s in rumble and skipping the timer is a thing, these are the most common we’ve run into. There is simple no other explanation unless the ping and packetloss warnings mean nothing because they don’t reflect bad connection with players that exhibit those behaviors.
"Thankfully the rocket league competitive and professional scene has not seen any cheating yet" - With all due respect, it is impossible for you (or anyone) to definitively say that you haven't seen any cheating yet. The best you can say is that you have not discovered any cheating yet.
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends time in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional.
Yeah, without that he would remind me of one of those old-era "attack" youtubers whose only point is to trash people. He exposes the bad behavior, but also gives insight into the game and knows what's happening in the scene.
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends timw in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional.
There was also one other thing he hacked you didn’t mention: the camera. In his replays he would modify the camera, so he’d hit a normal freestyle and then in replay turn on the reverse camera to create an insane shot.
@@eggs8021 effectively he played with the normal camera, then when he was editing the replay, he would make the camera be the reverse cam to create the more impressive looking reverse shot
I play RL a lot and I would just like to point out the amount of depth and research that he puts into games he covers so he isn’t disrespectful and understands the topic completely. Incredible job.
Legit. I've been playing for 2 years and never noticed that the BOOST letters flash at 100%. I thought they flashed as soon as you hit 99% because I don't look at the boost meter if I know I'm full
I play RL a lot and I would just like to point out the amount of depth and research that he puts into games he covers so he isn't disrespectful and understands the topic completely. Incredible job.
As someone who played only a few hours of Rocket League, I've always wondered what high level game play and ball control would look like. It's cool to see this level of proficiency. The whole freestyle scene is amazing, there's really no need to cheat.
ive been playing rocket league for years and im very impressed at the research you did. You got all the terminology correct and clearly went through a lot of effort to make sure you did it right
The crazy thing is, the time it would take to actually hit those clips (compared to his already shown skill level) would have been significantly less than the time he took to fake them most of the time
When I watched the video, I thought "well that's quite obvious, how did he cover that up for almost a year?" Then I realise it's just Karl doing a superb job in explaining things clearly.
The 14 reset one looked wrong due to the pace of the bounces to me, but I might not have seen that if it weren't in a video about cheating at freestyling.
But like Karl says, RUclips comments and speculation isn't proof. Many legit speedruns look cheated to me, but that's because I do not have the skill to play a game to that level. Hindsight is a beautiful thing.
@@clearspira You are the first person I've seen to actually admit that while some runs ook cheated you might not know everything about the game they're playing. As a result you don't hate in their comments section like the other hundreds of thousands.
Don't even need that to question it in this case, though? A guy going from very good but mid as far as competitive stuff cares to hanging with the best of the best literally overnight is so blatant that if that flag was any redder it would have a hammer and sickle on it.
Just a note about the "real-time" cheating. There's been some recent video evidence of players toggling a bot to auto-hunt demos with inhuman precision. So there's baby steps happening in competitive cheating
Yeah came here to mention this. But it’s not just TAS for demos there’s evidence of being able to do TAS aerials and other mechanics as well. It’s all coming out more and more though so no idea what the extent of it is but I’ve seen the clips of it. Also funny to see this after seeing SunlessKhan’s video on the subject.
@@smellyghost completely different things, the demo bot is just a bot that locks onto an enemy on your screen and perfectly chases them with robotic reactions to their dodging attempts, the aerial tas stuff is still completely impossible in live multiplayer games, only possible in singleplayer gameplay.
@@Swaeshy not that I’ve seen. You’re right that it’s different than the demo bot that locks onto the player to demo that Johnnyboi showed off. But the clips I’ve seen of the TAS aerials are in live multiplayer but they’re more like hit a button to do mechanics afaik. But there’s also way more than that anyways. Things like showing hitboxes and ball trajectory in live matches is also possible (as well as faking items and everyone in the lobby being able to see them). I know one console is called voltage and there’s another that someone linked in the comments of johnnyboi’s video that had the TAS aerial stuff but I’d have to dig that back up. But the forums had discussions about it and how to use it in matches to look natural along with privated RUclips clips showing it off.
@@smellyghost It is literally impossible to cheat out mechanics in Rocket League in online matches, simply due to the fact that every mechanic needs to be set up before you can go for it, and you bots do not have the ability to micro manage ball control to get the setup right for the macroing to work, and humans do not have the precision, or the opportunities for that matter, to set the bot up in a way that would put it in a position to succeed. As for seeing hitboxes and ball trajectory, both of those things are completely useless. Good players already know where the hitboxes are and where the ball is going, and bad players cannot utilize the extra information for anything. The best you can do with it is practice, but in live gameplay, useless extra garbage on the screen is just a distraction. It is literally impossible to gain a competitive advantage from bots or cheats in online Rocket League. Doesn't matter what theorycrafters think.
You know, if it weren’t for the fact that he was trying to pass the videos off as real, I wouldn’t mind them. Modifying a game and producing visually crazy videos just for the heck of it can be super fun! It’s a shame that it was an attempt to fool the community who puts in the commitment to achieve their own great plays
I remember casually playing this right when it came out. Took a break for a year or two and when I came back, the average skill level of the competition was so freaking impressive I couldn’t keep up lol.
Imagine how my friends and I felt when we switched from "Super Sonic Acrobatic rocket powered battle cars" (RL 1) to Rocket League years later 😂 was like going from the stone age to the 40th century
This is what scares me the most about cheating. Technology has been around long enough, people have to be really good at cheating. For every cheater caught, how many are there doing it diligently and not getting caught?
I'm assuming he built some tools in order to facility all this. There's quite few tools out there that use the RL replay format, so there's a lot of information you can use to build your own stuff. Still, I agree, some of these seem quite well made.
Okay the guy is a cheater but on 7:37 the amount of time for making food... Mate when I tell you I make myself some food lets say, roasted potatoes plus some prepared meatballs from the supermarket. That is gonna take around an hour of relaxed cooking plus 30-45 min at least to eat and then another 15-30 min me just relaxing after the food. And that is a very straight forward easy to make meal. If then somebody asked for some replay from me that is not gonna be on my "important" list and I might not even get on that, that day. Just as a general rule never overread such things.
This same situation happened in Half-Life 2 Done Quick. There was an individual contributor that had some cheated segments in the speedrun. But it took something like a decade until people realized the segments were cheated by using host_timescale to do the segments at a slower speed. When you play the replay (demo file), they don't contain the host_timescale command in the replay, so they play at normal speed.
Oh man that makes me so sad. HL2DQ is what you me interested in watching speed running. Now it's tarnished for a second reason. (The first is the segment where they sexually assault Alex Vance. I mean, God damn guys. Me too or something.)
What's upsetting about this situation is he actually had something good going for himself and the community. I think if he put out these montages and made it known he had altered the code to produce some cool clips people would've loved to see it.
I had the same exact thought while watching this. I was like "Since it is so easy to alter those replays and whatnot, you could have a whole YT channel just dedicated to manufacturing hello cool matches and montages."
@@tylerb6981 yep, it'd be like tool assisted speedruns / tas, it'd let peopl see the theoretical maximum and amazingness of what can be done - plus, if he *admited* right away that he was doing so instead of faking it, we could see much more harder to execute clips, instead of trying to keep it a human level, it could go ham and make it even more entertaining its a shame the guy didnt go for that, that'd be cool
Since this overwrites/ignores a lot of the physics constraints I don't think it would be that interesting... but there are ways to be creative, it's just not obvious to me.
Even better, if he'd shared what he learned in the process and his *technique*, people would have built upon it, going in who-knows-what directions, and others would build upon that work, so on and so forth. Someone would make really funny Rocket League matches. Someone would recreate real World Cup matches in Rocket League. Someone would create artistically choreographed matches. Someone would write software to make it easier to create these specially crafted matches. We'd have Rocket League machinema. And eventually, of course, someone would recreate Minecraft in Rocket League.
@@QuantumConundrum I would disagree, I think it would have the potential to be an amazing channel and further down the line a tool for people that wants to theory craft and practice. Sure some people would scuff at it, but he had been honest about what videos was "tool assisted" then I think people who would want to get sweaty, would have flocked to him.
It's amazing how well Karl keeps tabs on every speedrunning or challenge community and relays the information in such a compact and easy to understand way. Happy New Year Karl!
Karl is the Walter Cronkite of Speedrunning. If something interesting happens in the world of Speedrunning they will tell everything about it to Karl. I'm not trying to downplay Karl's work I'm on pointing out he'll get scoop before other channels because they find Karl instead of Karl trying to find them.
I've never speedrun anything and dont really even play videogames but still always these videos Karl makes. Always top notch quality and explanations so a non gaming dummy like me understands whats going on
This isn’t even a speedrunning or challenge community tbh, so it’s even weirder and more impressive. Freestyling in rocket league is straight up about pushing the envelope while being stylish as fuck. It’s such a cool microcosm of the game. Cheating is obviously sooooo against the spirit of freestyling, even though it’s not an inherently competitive way of playing. It’s about being sick and doing sick shit, with real skill.
Its truly impressive when you can clearly see the love,and thoroughness put into these videos! Its so well done, it will capture an audience that doesn't even know anything about the game initially, and conclude with a solid understanding of the topic. Very well done!!! I look forward to your continued success!
NGL I thought Karl might have been late covering this story. Instead, he produces an absolutely insane detective story detailing all the actual events of the story. Well done Dr. Jobst.
Anyone above diamond is a cheater. The rank system Is just cheat protection. It's obvious to spot a cheater in rocket league. The cheat "bakkes mod" boosts the car at the ball and aims the front of the car at the ball automatically. Mosf of the clips featured at the start of this video are cheaters.
Honestly, like with any journalism you have you weight being the "First" to break a story or cover one. And taking the time to gather all the info. So it might have been a little behind the trend but that also means he would have time to gather info that was discovered after the other people who talked about it. I rather like that like.
@@TheLastSane1 Exactly. He was the ONLY person to cover te Dream incident with full coverage and actually not jump on one wagon or the other. It's really sad how people do 30 minutes of research and put out a response video as if they even know what they're talking about xD
@@TheLastSane1 at least the story was covered to another community, most of the rocket league community already know about the story because of sunlesskhan’s video (he’s a rocket league youtuber) so it’s a good thing the speedrun community know about another bad actor
I have 2 things to say about this. 1, being a part of the Rocket League community for so long, it's really heartwarming to see someone who isn't actively a part of the community do so much to be accurate and informed when making a video like this, so extremely well done to Karl. 2, I think the one thing that throws me off about the video is the description of Shimmy's gameplay before he started cheating. Freestyling at even a "medium" level would still put you leagues ahead of the average player. It's not something that you can gradually get better at at the same time you get better at the game. You already have to be one of the best in the game to even have a chance at making good freestyle content.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I think it works a little bit different tbh, he was already decent in the community, just never the best, and he wanted a shortcut to being part of the elite. Its the same emotion pay to win games predicate their business model on.
@@luipaardprint I agree to some extent but the fact that he couldn't just practise more or work harder to sharpen his skills is just kinda sad. He spent time and effort into editing his clips instead. I feel like it's a very poor way to go about things when he could've just worked for it instead.
What impresses me is that he didn't even play the game. Or rather he did but when he was making these clips he wasn't playing he just made them via coding basically. That's insane.
@@Speeeedy Isn't anyone putting thousands of hours into a video game just sad though? I always wonder what these speed runners could have achieved if they had put that time and effort into something productive in the real world.
I never did a speedrun, im not part of the community and only watched a couple of speedruns over the years, but your videos are so well written, narrated and edited that i can't help watching every single one of them
I've also never once attempted a speed run, or even watched an attempt by someone else. I found out about this community through the movie "King of Kong" with that awful ding-a-ling Milly Bitchell. After seeing the movie, I'm sure I would have rarely - if ever - pursued any more content regarding the genre, but for a video that came out in my recommendations by some dude named Karl Jobst. I still don't watch any speed running stuff, but a good story is a good story, and Karl does it right. Lots of research, totally fair, and as honest as the day is long. Kudos, sir.
I'm not in the speedrunning community but I enjoy watching your content, your versatility for dealing with so many different games and communities is really impressive!
Im shocked by this. I've played this game for years, and I understand TAS exists, but as a console player I could never fathom how someone would cheat in Rocket League of all games. Love your content, and this is exactly why!
I love when people come up with definitive methods of testing for cheating that have very little to do with the game Like already having a replay and then asking for it again later when the person is under scrutiny and would be likely to alter it, clever.
So cool to see you cover this rocket league incident and im really impressed that you actually took the time to learn all the rocket league terms correctly. Even pro players constantly get terms wrong when it comes to freestyling and they dont really care to learn. But you really did it well!
Well done to all those who called him out and those who not just called him out but actually put a report together and showed their evidence. Need a lot more people like this in games and putting the cheaters to rights.
I'm always amazed at how invested these videos make me in games I've never played. Looking forward to watching you contine to be a legend in 2023, Karl!
I appreciate all of the work you put into the presentation of these videos. I've never played, or have little experience with some of the games you cover, but I can still follow along perfectly well because of the way you present and explain the information. It's both informative and entertaining, and I appreciate it very much.
I cant think of a better way to bring in the new year than a drink in hand, and watching Karl Jobst. I hope you have a great new year Karl, and can't wait to see the content you make in 2023.
Karl you never stop surprising us with your critic content of the same topic but with broad and big variety of game genres, props for your investigations, best of lucks.
I imagine it's an intense point of stress to go so long being so close to getting caught. Knowing that people are suspicious and asking questions and you know that they know that you know you're cheating and everyones testing you to slip. You achieved nothing but now you gotta work that much harder trying to pretend you did. What a terrible scene.
It's kind of funny to think about though. Can you imagine, the dude just going on about with his day when someone suddenly asks him for a replay file and now he has to drop everything he is doing to spend a hour or so trying to make the replay look smoother lmao
Mods: there’s hundreds of clips with a 99.9% chance you’re cheating Shimmy: I’ve never cheated in my life. Mods: there’s 1 clip with a 100% chance you’re cheating Shimmy: Aww ya got me D:
It's always great to have such a well-explained video that makes someone who doesn't know the game at a technical level understand the cheating at that level... All with some nice Mantis theme in the background.
Amazing production and narration as always! The opening description about Rocket League and its mechanics is the best explanation I've ever seen. Happy New Year!
This reminds me a lot of the time Trackmania players found dozens of high-level players were cheating and created their own 'Competitive Patch' to verify replays. Gotta' love the dedication of gamers.
great video. I hadn't heard of this guy but honestly watching these clips it's amazing to me that no one was initially suspicious before he joined a team. I mean he barely touches the ball and gets max speed, or the ball lags and looks broken in half his clips. still a really interesting story
literally did a triple take when i seen biggest cheater in rocket league history and then karl jobst name under it. i was like no way he made a video on "jimmy" as sunlesskahn called him haha idk how much karl knows about RL but this video was amazingly done with all the explanations and coverage of the events. well done mr Jobst ❤
In that case have a little bonus slice; in CS GO there was a coach that got "caught" using an exploit to ghost, after valve refused to fix the exploit, the coach instructed his team to use it, they all lie and pleaded ignorance and what is worse is that loads of pro teams actively cheat using the ghost exploit, i would cry but am laughing too hard
It's always crazy how much effort people can put into cheating. This was explained really well too, especially since I don't even know that much about the game. The editing is great. I always appreciate when the people are able to get involved in the making of the videos too. Nice.
Thank you for covering this, and to those who helped with the video! Being part of the RL community, it's exciting to see our community in the spotlight!
I became a gamer rather later in life and the game which got me there is Rocket League. It's the only game I play. With that context, I've been watching your channel for two years and love the content even though I've never seen, let alone played, the genres you cover. Seeing you cover the game I love was a joy. Great work.
This is right before 2023 for me, thanks for another great video to end off the year on my end, and a wonderful way to start the year for others. Hope you're doing wonderfully, Karl.
Really well researched from the community, thank you for putting this presentation together. The thing that's always neat (and you did point this out too already) - is how these more creative and successful cheaters always end up improving the cheat detection that the community uses in the future. Some day it would be neat to get a tool that could automatically analyze a replay to verify that all the physics line up with what is mathematically possible for the normal game engine to produce.
Extremely impressed with your research and how you gain all knowledge of the game before making a video. I am an extreme RL player and you got every fact of the game spot on. Thanks!
"The footage was so good that some RUclips commenters started claiming it was fake, make no mistake though RUclips comments mean nothing" Masterfully set up
Something’s just getting me again and again about how delightfully you describe him getting absolutely possessed and transcending gamerhood to become a deity
Karl doing a Rocket League video, now I can die happy. Fantastic video, amazing descriptions, and you can tell research was done about the community. Well done Karl!
The thing I always found funny about stuff like this is if the creator was upfront about stuff when they posted most people would have a good laugh and be like "Wow that's impossible but looks cool, kudos" but they insist on faking it as if it was real despite their real skill in the game. It's the same with a lot of the cheaters you have exposed tbh.
Ugh. He wasn't even cheating, just enhancing videos! If he had elaborated when Redshyft approached him, this would've been a series of cool videos, basically Machinimas of what you could do in Rocket League. Maybe even release tutorials on the game's code. But, no. He had to claim it was solely skill. Such a shame.
5:00 theres actually a graphics bug that speeds up visual animations if you turn a console on without previously closing the game. Unless this was a pc player, it could easily be the explanation for the fast flashing boost
Part of this that really sucks is that what shimmy did could have actually been really cool. Manually controlling the game, according to your explanation you said frame by frame at least in part, can't be that easy. Still requires a level of expertise many of us could only dream of, both in the game and in understanding 3rd party tools to manipulate it. If shimmy had been upfront about these actions, it would be pretty rad. Not very different from TAS speedruns.
Very different of TAS Speedrun, a TAS is just a series of input each frame than a human cannot do, which will break the game, the game is unchanged and technically not cheated. This guy has modified the game and cheated.
There should be a category in every community that goes on for a random month each year, that challenges the best of each community to make their best cheated runs and submit them undercover to test and strengthen the community's eyes for cheaters, some of the mods will be in on it and at the end of the month all the cheated runs unnoticed will be revealed and given a small summary of what the runner did to do it The mods that spot the fakes, the community members that spot the fakes, and the runners that successfully fool the community or discover a new cheat method before its use could even win some money
The funniest thing is that I was just watching criminal investigation stories and I thought I would make a change to something more light hearted. I ended up watching a criminal investigation about Rocket League 😂😮
Why I play RL basically daily for more than 6 years now: *Untouchable skill ceiling & no cheaters at all.* The only competitive 3D online game I know that has both. What a time to be alive. Amazing video Karl! 🏆💯
Fun fact for experienced RL players: at 10:53, when he flicks the ball, it's almost certain he edited the ball speed because it suddenly speeds up and has the trail after he switches to ball cam
I can say with the upmost certainty from a player in the RL FS community this was the most entertaining and mind blowing video I have seen in years to do with RL. Purely due to how accurate the video is not to mention so many friends of mine being shown in the video as well... just awesome to see. You sir, are an absolute LEGEND :D
I never thought I'd see the day when Karl Jobst would do a video on rocket league due to the near impossibility to cheat or speed run anything in particular, and yet here we are. Love the content as always. Huge fan, and now you got a video on my favorite game
My old coding professor had a phrase he'd like to say: "You can, but don't put glass in your mouth." which means, in his words, that you can code badly, but you shouldn't, because it makes everything worse in the long run Jimmy put glass in their mouth
"He had sold his soul to the devil for inhuman freestyling abilities." man this line sounds like it should be so much more epic if we weren't talking about rocket league
I really wish these guys who cheat like this would put their effort into revealing the cheat, showing off how it works and how to detect it, and then edit some really awesome shit together to show peak tool assist level play. People will still watch, like, and subscribe for that type of video, and you'll still be a loved part of the community, honored even, for bringing that to light before someone does it. Being "God tier" is one thing, but contributing to something as useful as anti-cheat and then going on to make God tier tool assistee videos is, in my personal opinion, much better and safer for your career.
Well, dear programmer, i'm sure the speedrun community likes your fakes, as they now have even more to keep an eye on! Too bad you did it without telling them, so they had to catch and punish you. Maybe some new rules like "show your replays" will be added, and cheaters will fall harder and more often than ever. Thanks to Karl for such amazing video once again, as you really are clear and more in details than just "this and that happened".
I think there IS a place for this sort of stuff, as a tool-assisted expression of what could be done... sort of... artistic in a way. Because those replays are amazingly beautiful. But never to actually gain merit in places where practice and skills are meant to be measured.
Shimmy vs Schmooey - Who did it better? Happy new years, I wish you all the best in 2023 you legends!
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who knows lol
Only a bloody legend like you is on point on putting a video on New Years Day directly in the Americas (already 12am)!
Many best wishes and blessing to you and your family!!! 🎉
happy new year everyoneeeeeeeee
Thanks you absolute Legend.
happy new year!
I’ve always wanted to see when someone’s confronted about cheating they just immediately say something like ‘alright you got me lol’
maybe they exist but arnt as likely to blow up
In the ygo community, a store got caught reselling opened packs and that was basically their response.
Ian Watkins the ex band member of Lostprophets did that. Except instead of cheating, it was ****ing minors.
@@ytsuxmuhd4998 crazy thing to admit to
@@ytsuxmuhd4998 dont forget the baby stuff 💀
This is why I really enjoy the existence of TAS communities. I’m totally cool and really love seeing crazy stuff done, as long as it is directly stated that it is using external tools.
exactly
I feel like in certain games it's super interesting, but in this case it's not really as the thing that makes freestyling cool is the difficulty of it, it doesn't really accomplish anything whereas TAS is used in a lot of games to show theoretical maximums etc
yeah exactly!
i feel like having videos like those around wouldnt even be much of a controversy at all for the community, if he was just upfront about it being tool-assisted to look cooler, cause often inhuman stunts just look incredible to watch. It really is just him claiming he drove it by himself thats the fundemental issue.
The funny thing in this case, is that if what Shimmy submitted these as TASes, it would *still* be cheating because there is no valid sequence of controls that would result in the same replay that Shimmy produced.
These are not called TASes btw but TAFs, which are Tool Assisted Freestyle replays instead of Tool Assisted Speedruns.
The editing and explanations in this video were perfect, happy to help!
Good work fellas!
I’m confused how this is considered cheating. Theres no opponents or competition, he’s just trying to make some cool clips. Its your own fault for being deceived if anything.
@@KiyaWarrior He literally altered the code of the game to make something that isn't humanly possible, possible.
How is it not cheating?
Oh hey, you're that guy from the thing, huh? Cool.
@@KiyaWarrior you must be the only one online that's confused. He literally got his spot on a freestyle team from these faked clips, per the explanation in the video. It is the very definition of cheating.
And they might have been initially deceived, but they figured out that it wasn't legit and exposed it. So I don't see how trying to make them the villains instead of the fraud does anything.
Thankfully the rocket league competitive and professional scene has not seen any cheating yet. There are simply no cheats or AI smart enough that would help in a competitive environment.
It's one of the reasons why I've had so much fun with it, compared to games like CS:GO where once you get high enough, you are bound to run into cheaters.
Havent found a cheater in years in high ranks
I swear a few days ago on twitter multiple pros have seen this guy playing almost to perfection with dribbles like a bot would?
I wish that were true 😂 there are cheaters EVERYWHERE in rocket league. The game simply doesn’t allow you to do some of the things I’ve seen and what we’ve tested. Infinite boost is a thing, extra base speed is a thing, choosing your power up’s in rumble and skipping the timer is a thing, these are the most common we’ve run into. There is simple no other explanation unless the ping and packetloss warnings mean nothing because they don’t reflect bad connection with players that exhibit those behaviors.
This aged like rotten cheese, JamaicanCoconut LMAO 1 day later and cheaters are being found in ranked. That's funny
"Thankfully the rocket league competitive and professional scene has not seen any cheating yet" - With all due respect, it is impossible for you (or anyone) to definitively say that you haven't seen any cheating yet. The best you can say is that you have not discovered any cheating yet.
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends time in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional.
Yeah, without that he would remind me of one of those old-era "attack" youtubers whose only point is to trash people. He exposes the bad behavior, but also gives insight into the game and knows what's happening in the scene.
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends timw in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional.
yeah adds lots of watch time, like this one is 5 minutes
The real intention of journalism.
Too bad he can't give up saying the N word
There was also one other thing he hacked you didn’t mention: the camera. In his replays he would modify the camera, so he’d hit a normal freestyle and then in replay turn on the reverse camera to create an insane shot.
Wow. That makes them MUCH less impressive.
I don't know if I'm reading it weird or if its written weird, but this comment makes no sense to me
@@eggs8021 effectively he played with the normal camera, then when he was editing the replay, he would make the camera be the reverse cam to create the more impressive looking reverse shot
@@TheWizardMus oh I get it that's hilarious
@@eggs8021 I was wrong everyone, he didn’t use jumpinreplay my apologies
I play RL a lot and I would just like to point out the amount of depth and research that he puts into games he covers so he isn’t disrespectful and understands the topic completely. Incredible job.
Legit. I've been playing for 2 years and never noticed that the BOOST letters flash at 100%. I thought they flashed as soon as you hit 99% because I don't look at the boost meter if I know I'm full
@@Miss_New_Booty me who never notices it flashes despite playing for years (I also am not good)
I play RL a lot and I would just like to point out the amount of depth and research that he puts into games he covers so he isn't disrespectful and understands the topic completely. Incredible job.
Chill
Been playing for four years and this is very tru I'm a c1 btw
As someone who played only a few hours of Rocket League, I've always wondered what high level game play and ball control would look like. It's cool to see this level of proficiency. The whole freestyle scene is amazing, there's really no need to cheat.
ive been playing rocket league for years and im very impressed at the research you did. You got all the terminology correct and clearly went through a lot of effort to make sure you did it right
2 months after sunless kahn xd
thanks Obama
Terminology like “ball” and “speed” and “goal”. Very impressive
@@gunkanjima3408 flip reset
you mean.... ive been playing rocket league for years and you have just proven to know more about it in 1 short video XD
jk
Man that's crazy. Lots of work put into that cheating which is almost impressive in itself lmao
Like Karl said, if he put just a little more work into it, it would've likely gone unnoticed
@@KaseyC. True! That's why it's ALMOST impressive lmao. Just a little bit more would've made it much better
you can't succeed if you don't put in the work, no matter how good the idea is.
The crazy thing is, the time it would take to actually hit those clips (compared to his already shown skill level) would have been significantly less than the time he took to fake them most of the time
a pro cheater
When I watched the video, I thought "well that's quite obvious, how did he cover that up for almost a year?" Then I realise it's just Karl doing a superb job in explaining things clearly.
The 14 reset one looked wrong due to the pace of the bounces to me, but I might not have seen that if it weren't in a video about cheating at freestyling.
But like Karl says, RUclips comments and speculation isn't proof. Many legit speedruns look cheated to me, but that's because I do not have the skill to play a game to that level. Hindsight is a beautiful thing.
@@hariman7727 There are actual players who look just as good
@@clearspira You are the first person I've seen to actually admit that while some runs ook cheated you might not know everything about the game they're playing. As a result you don't hate in their comments section like the other hundreds of thousands.
Don't even need that to question it in this case, though? A guy going from very good but mid as far as competitive stuff cares to hanging with the best of the best literally overnight is so blatant that if that flag was any redder it would have a hammer and sickle on it.
Just a note about the "real-time" cheating. There's been some recent video evidence of players toggling a bot to auto-hunt demos with inhuman precision. So there's baby steps happening in competitive cheating
Yeah came here to mention this. But it’s not just TAS for demos there’s evidence of being able to do TAS aerials and other mechanics as well. It’s all coming out more and more though so no idea what the extent of it is but I’ve seen the clips of it.
Also funny to see this after seeing SunlessKhan’s video on the subject.
@@smellyghost completely different things, the demo bot is just a bot that locks onto an enemy on your screen and perfectly chases them with robotic reactions to their dodging attempts, the aerial tas stuff is still completely impossible in live multiplayer games, only possible in singleplayer gameplay.
@@Swaeshy not that I’ve seen. You’re right that it’s different than the demo bot that locks onto the player to demo that Johnnyboi showed off. But the clips I’ve seen of the TAS aerials are in live multiplayer but they’re more like hit a button to do mechanics afaik. But there’s also way more than that anyways. Things like showing hitboxes and ball trajectory in live matches is also possible (as well as faking items and everyone in the lobby being able to see them). I know one console is called voltage and there’s another that someone linked in the comments of johnnyboi’s video that had the TAS aerial stuff but I’d have to dig that back up. But the forums had discussions about it and how to use it in matches to look natural along with privated RUclips clips showing it off.
There's also the CSGO coach fiasco
@@smellyghost It is literally impossible to cheat out mechanics in Rocket League in online matches, simply due to the fact that every mechanic needs to be set up before you can go for it, and you bots do not have the ability to micro manage ball control to get the setup right for the macroing to work, and humans do not have the precision, or the opportunities for that matter, to set the bot up in a way that would put it in a position to succeed.
As for seeing hitboxes and ball trajectory, both of those things are completely useless. Good players already know where the hitboxes are and where the ball is going, and bad players cannot utilize the extra information for anything. The best you can do with it is practice, but in live gameplay, useless extra garbage on the screen is just a distraction.
It is literally impossible to gain a competitive advantage from bots or cheats in online Rocket League. Doesn't matter what theorycrafters think.
You know, if it weren’t for the fact that he was trying to pass the videos off as real, I wouldn’t mind them. Modifying a game and producing visually crazy videos just for the heck of it can be super fun! It’s a shame that it was an attempt to fool the community who puts in the commitment to achieve their own great plays
yep
he was benefiting materially from it, so it's fraud
@@richardhunter132looks sick asf tho no?
Is that not just TAS at that point.
@@myrup1887If it does, but is pure fake (as in shots not physically possible) it doesn't matter.
Then it "doesn't look sick" anymore
I remember casually playing this right when it came out. Took a break for a year or two and when I came back, the average skill level of the competition was so freaking impressive I couldn’t keep up lol.
Imagine how my friends and I felt when we switched from "Super Sonic Acrobatic rocket powered battle cars" (RL 1) to Rocket League years later 😂 was like going from the stone age to the 40th century
I’m not condoning his actions obviously but it’s impressive as hell how well he was able to modify those replay files. I would have never noticed.
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Def not a lazy cheater lol
You admire a cheater lol what is wrong with you? Cheater too? It's not impressive, it's shitty.
This is what scares me the most about cheating. Technology has been around long enough, people have to be really good at cheating. For every cheater caught, how many are there doing it diligently and not getting caught?
at this point the cheating is sort of an art form of itself
I'm assuming he built some tools in order to facility all this. There's quite few tools out there that use the RL replay format, so there's a lot of information you can use to build your own stuff. Still, I agree, some of these seem quite well made.
Rocket Sledge is such an underrated creator. Really happy you shouted him out :)
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eh he is an ok creator
@@Rocket_Sledge real.
I love that subtle jab at Billy Mitchell where you don't even have to name him and we all know what you're talking about.
Okay the guy is a cheater but on 7:37 the amount of time for making food...
Mate when I tell you I make myself some food lets say, roasted potatoes plus some prepared meatballs from the supermarket. That is gonna take around an hour of relaxed cooking plus 30-45 min at least to eat and then another 15-30 min me just relaxing after the food. And that is a very straight forward easy to make meal.
If then somebody asked for some replay from me that is not gonna be on my "important" list and I might not even get on that, that day.
Just as a general rule never overread such things.
This same situation happened in Half-Life 2 Done Quick. There was an individual contributor that had some cheated segments in the speedrun. But it took something like a decade until people realized the segments were cheated by using host_timescale to do the segments at a slower speed. When you play the replay (demo file), they don't contain the host_timescale command in the replay, so they play at normal speed.
Oh man that makes me so sad.
HL2DQ is what you me interested in watching speed running. Now it's tarnished for a second reason.
(The first is the segment where they sexually assault Alex Vance. I mean, God damn guys. Me too or something.)
What's upsetting about this situation is he actually had something good going for himself and the community. I think if he put out these montages and made it known he had altered the code to produce some cool clips people would've loved to see it.
I had the same exact thought while watching this. I was like "Since it is so easy to alter those replays and whatnot, you could have a whole YT channel just dedicated to manufacturing hello cool matches and montages."
@@tylerb6981 yep, it'd be like tool assisted speedruns / tas, it'd let peopl see the theoretical maximum and amazingness of what can be done - plus, if he *admited* right away that he was doing so instead of faking it, we could see much more harder to execute clips, instead of trying to keep it a human level, it could go ham and make it even more entertaining
its a shame the guy didnt go for that, that'd be cool
Since this overwrites/ignores a lot of the physics constraints I don't think it would be that interesting... but there are ways to be creative, it's just not obvious to me.
Even better, if he'd shared what he learned in the process and his *technique*, people would have built upon it, going in who-knows-what directions, and others would build upon that work, so on and so forth. Someone would make really funny Rocket League matches. Someone would recreate real World Cup matches in Rocket League. Someone would create artistically choreographed matches. Someone would write software to make it easier to create these specially crafted matches. We'd have Rocket League machinema. And eventually, of course, someone would recreate Minecraft in Rocket League.
@@QuantumConundrum I would disagree, I think it would have the potential to be an amazing channel and further down the line a tool for people that wants to theory craft and practice.
Sure some people would scuff at it, but he had been honest about what videos was "tool assisted" then I think people who would want to get sweaty, would have flocked to him.
It's amazing how well Karl keeps tabs on every speedrunning or challenge community and relays the information in such a compact and easy to understand way.
Happy New Year Karl!
Karl is the Walter Cronkite of Speedrunning. If something interesting happens in the world of Speedrunning they will tell everything about it to Karl. I'm not trying to downplay Karl's work I'm on pointing out he'll get scoop before other channels because they find Karl instead of Karl trying to find them.
@@Wallyworld30 That's just how things work. Ain't nothing wrong about it either.
I'm not even into speedrunning, but I enjoy Karl's videos because his presentation style and thoroughness are worth watching.
I've never speedrun anything and dont really even play videogames but still always these videos Karl makes. Always top notch quality and explanations so a non gaming dummy like me understands whats going on
This isn’t even a speedrunning or challenge community tbh, so it’s even weirder and more impressive.
Freestyling in rocket league is straight up about pushing the envelope while being stylish as fuck. It’s such a cool microcosm of the game.
Cheating is obviously sooooo against the spirit of freestyling, even though it’s not an inherently competitive way of playing. It’s about being sick and doing sick shit, with real skill.
Its truly impressive when you can clearly see the love,and thoroughness put into these videos! Its so well done, it will capture an audience that doesn't even know anything about the game initially, and conclude with a solid understanding of the topic. Very well done!!! I look forward to your continued success!
Taku and NYTROUS really pullin out the galaxy brain with the way they got undeniable proof on him. Good stuff.
There is NO WAY you just dropped a Rocket League video. Holy shit what a start to the new year!
Yeehaww
Nice one!
*SOYJAK* NO WAY!!!!
Hell yeah. Happy New Year.
NGL I thought Karl might have been late covering this story. Instead, he produces an absolutely insane detective story detailing all the actual events of the story. Well done Dr. Jobst.
Anyone above diamond is a cheater. The rank system Is just cheat protection. It's obvious to spot a cheater in rocket league. The cheat "bakkes mod" boosts the car at the ball and aims the front of the car at the ball automatically.
Mosf of the clips featured at the start of this video are cheaters.
Honestly, like with any journalism you have you weight being the "First" to break a story or cover one. And taking the time to gather all the info. So it might have been a little behind the trend but that also means he would have time to gather info that was discovered after the other people who talked about it. I rather like that like.
@Don't Read Profile Photo who are you?
@@TheLastSane1 Exactly. He was the ONLY person to cover te Dream incident with full coverage and actually not jump on one wagon or the other. It's really sad how people do 30 minutes of research and put out a response video as if they even know what they're talking about xD
@@TheLastSane1 at least the story was covered to another community, most of the rocket league community already know about the story because of sunlesskhan’s video (he’s a rocket league youtuber) so it’s a good thing the speedrun community know about another bad actor
Thanks for all the amazing content, happy new year to you karl and also to everyone you love
And to all the absolute legends reading this!
❤
5:35 "But then, in December of 2021, Shimmy became possessed." By the ghost of Todd Rogers, apparently!
I have 2 things to say about this. 1, being a part of the Rocket League community for so long, it's really heartwarming to see someone who isn't actively a part of the community do so much to be accurate and informed when making a video like this, so extremely well done to Karl. 2, I think the one thing that throws me off about the video is the description of Shimmy's gameplay before he started cheating. Freestyling at even a "medium" level would still put you leagues ahead of the average player. It's not something that you can gradually get better at at the same time you get better at the game. You already have to be one of the best in the game to even have a chance at making good freestyle content.
You gotta hand it to some of these cheaters. It’s impressive to figure out how to be deceitful on that level
You have to wonder how sad their lives must be to invest so much time in deceit just to be thought highly of in a very, very niche community.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I think it works a little bit different tbh, he was already decent in the community, just never the best, and he wanted a shortcut to being part of the elite. Its the same emotion pay to win games predicate their business model on.
@@luipaardprint I agree to some extent but the fact that he couldn't just practise more or work harder to sharpen his skills is just kinda sad. He spent time and effort into editing his clips instead. I feel like it's a very poor way to go about things when he could've just worked for it instead.
What impresses me is that he didn't even play the game. Or rather he did but when he was making these clips he wasn't playing he just made them via coding basically. That's insane.
@@Speeeedy Isn't anyone putting thousands of hours into a video game just sad though? I always wonder what these speed runners could have achieved if they had put that time and effort into something productive in the real world.
I never did a speedrun, im not part of the community and only watched a couple of speedruns over the years, but your videos are so well written, narrated and edited that i can't help watching every single one of them
I've also never once attempted a speed run, or even watched an attempt by someone else. I found out about this community through the movie "King of Kong" with that awful ding-a-ling Milly Bitchell. After seeing the movie, I'm sure I would have rarely - if ever - pursued any more content regarding the genre, but for a video that came out in my recommendations by some dude named Karl Jobst. I still don't watch any speed running stuff, but a good story is a good story, and Karl does it right. Lots of research, totally fair, and as honest as the day is long. Kudos, sir.
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Dang, 2023 isn't even an hour old and we already have a cheating scandal vid from the absolute legend Karl Jobst
I'm not in the speedrunning community but I enjoy watching your content, your versatility for dealing with so many different games and communities is really impressive!
This video is not about speedrun bro wym lmao
Im shocked by this. I've played this game for years, and I understand TAS exists, but as a console player I could never fathom how someone would cheat in Rocket League of all games.
Love your content, and this is exactly why!
U fookin legend
fook yea!!!
No U!
Fook!!!
Absolute Fuggin Leaugendee!
@@ararepotato1420yes
I love when people come up with definitive methods of testing for cheating that have very little to do with the game
Like already having a replay and then asking for it again later when the person is under scrutiny and would be likely to alter it, clever.
So cool to see you cover this rocket league incident and im really impressed that you actually took the time to learn all the rocket league terms correctly. Even pro players constantly get terms wrong when it comes to freestyling and they dont really care to learn. But you really did it well!
7:30 an hour and a half to cook is entirely reasonable if you're not settling for ramen and doritos, dude
Well done to all those who called him out and those who not just called him out but actually put a report together and showed their evidence.
Need a lot more people like this in games and putting the cheaters to rights.
I'm always amazed at how invested these videos make me in games I've never played. Looking forward to watching you contine to be a legend in 2023, Karl!
Same here
Holib
I appreciate all of the work you put into the presentation of these videos. I've never played, or have little experience with some of the games you cover, but I can still follow along perfectly well because of the way you present and explain the information. It's both informative and entertaining, and I appreciate it very much.
I cant think of a better way to bring in the new year than a drink in hand, and watching Karl Jobst. I hope you have a great new year Karl, and can't wait to see the content you make in 2023.
Karl you never stop surprising us with your critic content of the same topic but with broad and big variety of game genres, props for your investigations, best of lucks.
i love how the "most replayed" bit of most youtube videos is the end of the in built ad... people should probably be taking note of that
I imagine it's an intense point of stress to go so long being so close to getting caught. Knowing that people are suspicious and asking questions and you know that they know that you know you're cheating and everyones testing you to slip. You achieved nothing but now you gotta work that much harder trying to pretend you did. What a terrible scene.
thats what lies cause, and also why you shouldnt do it. i hope he learned his lesson.
It's kind of funny to think about though. Can you imagine, the dude just going on about with his day when someone suddenly asks him for a replay file and now he has to drop everything he is doing to spend a hour or so trying to make the replay look smoother lmao
@@randomess61 That’s the exact thing I was thinking during that part of the video lmfao
7:30 an hour and a half is a pretty average cook time. especially if he's cooking and eating it right away.
6:53 when you pin people calling you out on your BS 💀
Awesome to see videos on games not typically covered here. Keep branching out man, love the content!
LOL I love your narration for how hilarious you can make this stuff sound. "SHIMMY...had become a GOD." xDDD
Mods: there’s hundreds of clips with a 99.9% chance you’re cheating
Shimmy: I’ve never cheated in my life.
Mods: there’s 1 clip with a 100% chance you’re cheating
Shimmy: Aww ya got me D:
It's always great to have such a well-explained video that makes someone who doesn't know the game at a technical level understand the cheating at that level... All with some nice Mantis theme in the background.
Amazing production and narration as always! The opening description about Rocket League and its mechanics is the best explanation I've ever seen. Happy New Year!
This reminds me a lot of the time Trackmania players found dozens of high-level players were cheating and created their own 'Competitive Patch' to verify replays. Gotta' love the dedication of gamers.
great video. I hadn't heard of this guy but honestly watching these clips it's amazing to me that no one was initially suspicious before he joined a team. I mean he barely touches the ball and gets max speed, or the ball lags and looks broken in half his clips. still a really interesting story
Never thought I'd see my favorite game on this channel. Thanks so much for covering this.
I just Commented this lol
im actually so happy
Hey I know you lol
literally did a triple take when i seen biggest cheater in rocket league history and then karl jobst name under it. i was like no way he made a video on "jimmy" as sunlesskahn called him haha idk how much karl knows about RL but this video was amazingly done with all the explanations and coverage of the events. well done mr Jobst ❤
@@lastdimensions638 How do you know me?
Nothing like starting the new year off with a Karl Jobst video. This is truly epic and you, are an absolute Legend Karl Jobst
Im really surprised and happy you covered this rl drama as i never thought it would catch major attention
In that case have a little bonus slice; in CS GO there was a coach that got "caught" using an exploit to ghost, after valve refused to fix the exploit, the coach instructed his team to use it, they all lie and pleaded ignorance and what is worse is that loads of pro teams actively cheat using the ghost exploit, i would cry but am laughing too hard
This is why scientists are increasingly suspicious of studies that say "data available upon request." Often, there is no data
It's always crazy how much effort people can put into cheating. This was explained really well too, especially since I don't even know that much about the game. The editing is great. I always appreciate when the people are able to get involved in the making of the videos too. Nice.
Thank you for covering this, and to those who helped with the video! Being part of the RL community, it's exciting to see our community in the spotlight!
I became a gamer rather later in life and the game which got me there is Rocket League. It's the only game I play. With that context, I've been watching your channel for two years and love the content even though I've never seen, let alone played, the genres you cover.
Seeing you cover the game I love was a joy. Great work.
This is right before 2023 for me, thanks for another great video to end off the year on my end, and a wonderful way to start the year for others. Hope you're doing wonderfully, Karl.
Really well researched from the community, thank you for putting this presentation together. The thing that's always neat (and you did point this out too already) - is how these more creative and successful cheaters always end up improving the cheat detection that the community uses in the future. Some day it would be neat to get a tool that could automatically analyze a replay to verify that all the physics line up with what is mathematically possible for the normal game engine to produce.
cheaters would immediately use that to make their replays undetectable
Shimmy had some S Tier levels of editing skills. Hot damn.
Dude needs to channel that into something that’s morally respectable and he’d be golden.
Extremely impressed with your research and how you gain all knowledge of the game before making a video. I am an extreme RL player and you got every fact of the game spot on.
Thanks!
What a great way to explain rocket leagues mechanics and high end gameplay so simply. Looking forward to the Karl jobst freestyle montage. 👍
Happy new years, always great to see a video from a creator you love on a game you love
"The footage was so good that some RUclips commenters started claiming it was fake, make no mistake though RUclips comments mean nothing"
Masterfully set up
Something’s just getting me again and again about how delightfully you describe him getting absolutely possessed and transcending gamerhood to become a deity
Karl doing a Rocket League video, now I can die happy. Fantastic video, amazing descriptions, and you can tell research was done about the community. Well done Karl!
The thing I always found funny about stuff like this is if the creator was upfront about stuff when they posted most people would have a good laugh and be like "Wow that's impossible but looks cool, kudos" but they insist on faking it as if it was real despite their real skill in the game.
It's the same with a lot of the cheaters you have exposed tbh.
really cool to see someone outside the rl community covering things like this, great work
Ugh. He wasn't even cheating, just enhancing videos! If he had elaborated when Redshyft approached him, this would've been a series of cool videos, basically Machinimas of what you could do in Rocket League. Maybe even release tutorials on the game's code.
But, no. He had to claim it was solely skill. Such a shame.
5:00 theres actually a graphics bug that speeds up visual animations if you turn a console on without previously closing the game. Unless this was a pc player, it could easily be the explanation for the fast flashing boost
Hope you are doing great Karl, Happy New Year ✨
Part of this that really sucks is that what shimmy did could have actually been really cool. Manually controlling the game, according to your explanation you said frame by frame at least in part, can't be that easy. Still requires a level of expertise many of us could only dream of, both in the game and in understanding 3rd party tools to manipulate it.
If shimmy had been upfront about these actions, it would be pretty rad. Not very different from TAS speedruns.
Very different of TAS Speedrun, a TAS is just a series of input each frame than a human cannot do, which will break the game, the game is unchanged and technically not cheated. This guy has modified the game and cheated.
@@Snrasha I was referring more to the skill and accomplishment of it, not details of either
There should be a category in every community that goes on for a random month each year, that challenges the best of each community to make their best cheated runs and submit them undercover to test and strengthen the community's eyes for cheaters, some of the mods will be in on it and at the end of the month all the cheated runs unnoticed will be revealed and given a small summary of what the runner did to do it
The mods that spot the fakes, the community members that spot the fakes, and the runners that successfully fool the community or discover a new cheat method before its use could even win some money
The funniest thing is that I was just watching criminal investigation stories and I thought I would make a change to something more light hearted.
I ended up watching a criminal investigation about Rocket League 😂😮
Why I play RL basically daily for more than 6 years now: *Untouchable skill ceiling & no cheaters at all.*
The only competitive 3D online game I know that has both. What a time to be alive.
Amazing video Karl! 🏆💯
Dude could have just been a beloved TASser.
No better way to celebrate the New Year than more Karl Jobst and his public service 🤟
I just applaud people for all the passion being able to play even through videos where the idea is to catch a cheater.
Fun fact for experienced RL players: at 10:53, when he flicks the ball, it's almost certain he edited the ball speed because it suddenly speeds up and has the trail after he switches to ball cam
Wow, good catch
I love how Karl used to be a cheater to get his name on magazines so now he's incredibly good at identifying cheaters.
I can say with the upmost certainty from a player in the RL FS community this was the most entertaining and mind blowing video I have seen in years to do with RL. Purely due to how accurate the video is not to mention so many friends of mine being shown in the video as well... just awesome to see. You sir, are an absolute LEGEND :D
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@@crristt hi
Happy new year Karl, I've always loved your content and hope to see more of it in the new year :D
Inhumane freestyle skills?
Not inhuman?
Is he a war criminal or something?
Should we tell the neighborhood watch?
Thank you for the like Karl.
I never thought I'd see the day when Karl Jobst would do a video on rocket league due to the near impossibility to cheat or speed run anything in particular, and yet here we are. Love the content as always. Huge fan, and now you got a video on my favorite game
My old coding professor had a phrase he'd like to say: "You can, but don't put glass in your mouth." which means, in his words, that you can code badly, but you shouldn't, because it makes everything worse in the long run
Jimmy put glass in their mouth
Love the content Karl! Keep up the good work and happy new year!
The thing with Shimmy is lots of people could easily tell his freestyles were fake, especially him finding random power from weak shots
just a personal 3:51 marker for the Sponsor skip. use it if you wanna! :)
"He had sold his soul to the devil for inhuman freestyling abilities."
man this line sounds like it should be so much more epic if we weren't talking about rocket league
“EVENTUALLY he sent the replay.”
I mean, he replied same day. That’s better than most.
I really wish these guys who cheat like this would put their effort into revealing the cheat, showing off how it works and how to detect it, and then edit some really awesome shit together to show peak tool assist level play. People will still watch, like, and subscribe for that type of video, and you'll still be a loved part of the community, honored even, for bringing that to light before someone does it. Being "God tier" is one thing, but contributing to something as useful as anti-cheat and then going on to make God tier tool assistee videos is, in my personal opinion, much better and safer for your career.
1:09 omg im in a karl jobst video :D
Yooo
Well, dear programmer, i'm sure the speedrun community likes your fakes, as they now have even more to keep an eye on!
Too bad you did it without telling them, so they had to catch and punish you.
Maybe some new rules like "show your replays" will be added, and cheaters will fall harder and more often than ever.
Thanks to Karl for such amazing video once again, as you really are clear and more in details than just "this and that happened".
"Too bad you did it without telling them, so they had to catch and punish you."
Content for everyone :)
His apology is probably one of the better apologies I’ve seen online, I’ll give him that. At least he takes accountability
I was ab to say this vid wouldn’t be complete without a mesko triple musty clip lmfao good shit Karl
I think there IS a place for this sort of stuff, as a tool-assisted expression of what could be done... sort of... artistic in a way. Because those replays are amazingly beautiful.
But never to actually gain merit in places where practice and skills are meant to be measured.
Thre are TAS categories in speedruns for a reason.