Eternal Champions (Sega Genesis vs Sega CD) Side by Side Comparison - Dual Longplay
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2020
- About the video: An audiovisual comparison of Eternal Champions between Sega Genesis and Sega CD version. The video shows a Dual Longplay with Trident (Characters from Eternal Champions) in the standard difficulty to compare the two games (side by side) whose purpose is of study and learn.
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- Technical data -
Full Game Name: The King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match
Alternative Name: KOF 98 UM/ KOF98 UM/ KOF'98 UM
Developer(s): SEGA
Publisher(s): SEGA
Release: 1993 (Sega Genesis) 1995 (Sega CD)
Comparative Region: American Version
Genre: Fighting
Mode: 1 or 2 Players (vs)
Format: Cartridge (Genesis) CD (Sega CD)
Dual Gameplay by VCDECIDE 
Игры
I did a ton of work on the SEGA CD version. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for all your work. This was one of my favorite fighting games, back then. We just didn't expect this kind of quality and depth. Especially not in a western designed fighter.
It was up there with the Lunar games, Sonic CD, the Batman Returns driving levels, and Snatcher as making the Sega CD feel next gen, even if it was just a console add-on.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 thank you! Honored to be considered amongst those other legendary games. :)
This is probably my favorite Sega CD game. It was really well made and played awesome. I still play it to this day. Thank you for doing your part in this game. I would love to know more about the work that was done.
Why did you make the game so hard?
@@angelmanfredyDo you know what Sega games NEC could have ported to the PC Engine just curious. NEC had several Sega games playing on the PC Engine could Eternal Champion been one of them.
The punch sound effects seems super satisfying in Sega CD
From ssf2t I think
@@rustymixer2886 I agree.
Sega CD's presentation is amazing. It looks like the Playstation's.
Where do you think Sony learned their techniques from?
@@BobbyHo2022 The PC Engine. Basically all the devs in Japan who honed their craft on the PC Engine & CD-ROM2 moved onto the PlayStation. Sony somehow got all the PC Engine and Super Famicom 3rd parties from Japan, Sega Genesis 3rd parties from America and Sega Mega Drive 3rd parties from Europe.
Kinda funny that the N64 lost alot of their Japanese 3rd parties and the Saturn lost all their western 3rd parties. But that shows how successful those consoles were in those regions.
5:20
Bone thugs N harmony sampled that on the left , Eternal 1999 album
"East nineteen ninetay nahn" 😂😂😂
@@RazorEdgeBullie 🤣🤣
They sampled a couple of tracks from the Genesis version of this game.
Happy birthday 🎂
If they ever decide to remaster the Sega CD game we really need more of that track
I have my SEGA CD game still. My friends and I played the tournament mode to death. Sure wish SEGA would revive this series.
A download would be great for a full reboot,but putting the game on disc wouldn't sell very well.Getting the older gamers to pay $15.00 dollars would'nt be to hard.
SEGA were the ones who killed it. A NEW game was pitched but was rejected. It had tons of new features, including the biggest concept being the timeline changing midmatch, resulting in the players having a new appaearnce, as well as the stage. It would of been the best of the trilogy. The creator then left, and in 2017 came back with some screenshots of a new one in 3d that he was working on titled Eternal Successors, but all the publishers he went to rejected the game, and didn't see crowd funding as a liable option. We haven't seen any Eternal Champions content sense.
Absolutely loved the tournament mode! I did a lot of work on this game, I’m glad people have fond memories.
That would be epic
I have enough of the streetfighters,tekkens and stupid mortal kombats.
I think it’s interesting to compare the differences in the backgrounds. Slash’s background is the same concept but has been redrawn, Rax’s background has had more detail added, Blade’s background has been recoloured. But Shadow’s background hasn’t changed at all as far as I can see. Guess they thought it was already perfect.
2 background on genesis seems exclusive but on sega cd are hidden battleground to unlock after you finish the game with some character.
Trident stage better on cart the splashes 🌊💦 more
For shadow's stage they gave more coloring to the clouds.
That "pig" taunt maybe one of the cleanest genesis voice samples I've ever heard.
Love the Sega CD version played that so much. Still have it
If only the final chapter was made
😭
Coming soon ;)
Say no mo' because SEGA has officially made a trademark not too long ago when they made big announcements with their other games weeks ago. Let's wait and until then... rejoice.
@@ZZtheDark indeed
@@rustymixer2886 Ma dood. 'claps'
Sega CD was the best version
With turbo mode (overdrive) and cinekill, this game was the best versus fighting of the sega cd.
Nah, the SF games were much better
@@gaminghands4945 yeah, sega cd street fighter games are the best...
@gaminghands4945 You better read his comment again.
For me it was always
EC Genesis: Better Mood, Music, and Atmosphere
EC Sega CD: Better Gameplay and more characters.
I usedto rock this game! The Sega CD version was better because it had more fighters and the lil animation cutscenes. I would've loved if Sega remade this game for the PS4, XBOX. Eternal Champions had a interesting story, fighters from different times that met their untimely deaths.
This game was a sick must have for the sega cd. I got mine back in 95. Sadly Sega of Japan axed the series.
It totally was. I got mine in 95 as well. All the fighters, moves, and finishing moves were awesome.Especially the Sudden Deaths and Overkills.
The game was make by Sega of America
@@josephellis4968 It was made by SOA but SOJ made them shut the series down. SOJ wanted the focus solely on Virtua Fighter and no other fighting series.
Sega of japan should have given treasure ir travelers tales or blue sky to do ec 2 on genny
And use the graphic engine if sonic3d blast or vector man
The Sega CD version has a lot more blood and gore than the Genesis version
Trident is sexy
Destaque para a ótima abertura em CG tela cheia para Sega CD. O game é bom de enredo, só precisavam ter melhorado a jogabilidade para ter sido um sucesso na década de 1990.
O jogo foi um sucesso no Mega Drive. Vendeu muitíssimo bem... A Sega Japão decidiu chutar para canto, apenas devido a não querer competência de outras franquias da casa com o "virtua fighter''. Na época pais compravam 1 ou 2 jogos por ano para os filhos e se estes já tivessem 1 jogo de luta, era considerado supérfluo comprar outro. Jogabilidade é massa.
Aliás o game era tão popular que até os zé droguinha curtiam ao invés de ser só a nerdalhada do costume. É só pesquisar no youtube "Bone Thugs-n-Harmony Eternal"
The Sega CD one is overall the better game but the atmosphere is different due to the music which I prefer on the Mega Drive version
I agree,slashes stage on the Sega Genesis had the better music,but Shadow looks much better on the Sega CD.
Mega CD version is not a port, it is the 2nd game. It huge improves Mega Drive version, fixes a ton of bad gameplay in the first game, bugs, physics... Music is 3 levels above thanks to the CD and a lot more champs, fatalities...
Probably the best looking fighting game in any 16 bit system
The stages were beautiful and the character designs and lore were great
The game had a lot of potential, what a shame that sega trashed the entire series for Virtua Fighter
At least you can still get the Genesis game on steam on the Genesis collection bundle
It’s subjective, I thought the colour scheme and dithering makes it look like a High end EGA graphics rather than anything maximum the Mega Drive could do.
Problem is it’s probably the only original One on One fighter on it. Streets of Rage is a lot better looking game on the system, but it’s a different genre.
I would say Samurai Showdown, Street Fighter 2: CE looked better than this, except they are downgrades from more capable hardware, so it’s not the best way to play those games, while this is as good as eternal Champion gets.
I think Gundam Wing Endless Duel looks better
Yea this would have been fine on Saturn just tighter and fluid gameplay
Que buen tema de fondo del ultimo escenario, simplemente magnifico.
problem with mega cd ports is that they always came a year or 2 after the mega drive releases when people had gotten bored with the game and expected far more improvements than they ever got.
Not in this case. The combos were better, and the AI wasn't as cheap. The finishing moves were ridiculously varied, there were a ton of new characters...
I never played the original again, after I got my hands on this one.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 granted its a bettre game but nobody was going to going to spend $250 on a sega cd for a few extra finishing moves and combos. People wanted better graphics and new experience and they were basically the same. People wanted games like Tekken and virtual fighter
@@steviegbcool
This was the era of Championship Edition, Turbo, and Super.
Challenge from the Darkside provided more new content than those 3 combined, and turned a mediocre game into a underrated contender, so you're going to have to work a little harder to dismiss it.
Especially given the shallow depth of Sega's fighting game library, overall. Beyond the usual arcade ports, the American releases soon take a quick dive.
Any addition was a welcome one.
Plus, I bought the Sega CD for the Lunar series. Challenge from the Darkside was just one of those great games that the rest of the world missed out on.
Their loss.
But yeah, this was an exception, not the rule. And Sega of Japan was insane in how they handled the system.
That said, there were worse things than slightly improved ports - Just look at Lawnmower Man and Dracula, which are far worse than what's happening on base hardware.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 yeah but you didnt have to buy a sega cd to play those. which is my point. Yeah it has improvements but not $250 worth And this was 1995. they missed out on it because they were playing tekken and virtual fighter
@@steviegbcool
Kid - Lunar wasn't out for other systems back then. And lots of people still couldn't afford a Saturn or a PS1, while the Sega CD was going on sale to clear out surplus for the next generation.
Stop trying to sound like an expert about a subject you know nothing about.
I like the Quality of the Sega Cd music but I wish they would have used the same compositions.
This Genesis music is better. It has more soul. The Sega CD version has more stuff but they are both good and need a remake
Man i loved this game
Having owned both. The sega cd version played better in my honest opinion
Excellent games in their own right.
just discovered this game thanks to Sega Lord X. Looks sooo dope! Looking forward to playing both versions. Thanks for the comparison meng 😀
Sega CD one is far superior, but the first one would be fun to play with someone well enough
Loved the sega cd but man it was hard. Loo
The intro for sega cd is so long but satisfying. I do think it would have been cooler if they made all the characters enter the tournament right as they die so they have the wounds from how they died, Xavier could have been really burnt up etc. Make them have even more character. I also like the music on the sega drive more
superb colors and pixelar. This game was my bday gift back when it was released.
always liked the cartridge version because of how beautiful it is, the colors, the pixelart, the music, cool moves... altought the game is not solid as SF2 it was good enough for its time. The CD version looked pretty much like a downgrade to me. I like it has more content but it doesnt seem worth it: the new characters are sub par compared to the original ones, the new fatality stages are too gruesome to my taste, the CG animation and music are just horrendous imo.
the dates are incorrect, Eternal Champions on MD/GEN is 93, on Mega CD/Sega Cd is 94
Those are the dates of the systems, not the games.
@@LupusRexRgis thank you
the background full of art
Tirar o chapéu para você: conseguir jogar o modo arcade neste jogo difícil
Cool video. Nice
Sega CD game version (+ the logo named Deep Water) is the most gory of the two games.
But i prefer the Sega CD version. My favourites girls are Jetta, Shadow and Riptide.
"you still don't own a sega CD ?? What are you waiting for , Nintendo to make one ??? Uhh duhhuhuahah, there is no Nintendo CD"
Yet the FMV in Killer Instinct looks 10x better than the ones in Eternal Champions: Challenge From the Dark Side.
Mega CD version you could actually do combo's.
Megadrive version has Shadow's better look.
Decisions ... :P
Always thought the cd version was an audio and gfx upgrade, but of course has better audio, more stages aand characters.
But the old chars and stages are basically the same, different colors and just a little minimal differences in few background animations.
So no extra frames for every old character as some ppl said for years and years.
So much more was added! You just don’t see it here (unless you watch some of the AI). There was a revamp to the game play including a combo system (not utilized here) and most every character had new more dynamic more sf-style special moves added.
Mega CD version has a lot of gameplay fixes and improvements, thats the main stuff of the sequel.
It had much bigger improvements than the ones we saw in MK 1 to 2
Sega should've put this game on the 32X,it was a missed opportunity for them, just too put it on the Sega CD.
What a great game good soundtrack to
Aside from it being a Sega exclusive fighting game, I never understood what people saw in this one. That said, it appears that in some stages, there's more going on in the original cartridge release.
The CD music, more hidden characters, the CG cinemas and more ways to kill the opponents. I thought it was a worthy upgrade to the cartridge.
always liked the cartridge version because of how beautiful it is, the colors, the pixelart, the music, cool moves... altought the game is not solid as SF2 it was good enough for its time. The CD version looked pretty much like a downgrade to me. I like it has more content but it doesnt seem worth it: the new characters are sub par compared to the original ones, the new fatality stages are too gruesome to my taste, the CG animation and music are just horrendous imo.
@@darthwisner47 It definitely was. Such an awesome package.
I tired to like it, but there was just too much anomalies in the gameplay and the guys that made this seem to be the most uncool people trying very hard to be cool.
That story totally suck for being so damn long and detailed .
boss character is total simplistic ass of an artistic design like Dural 🤮 just an easy way out no creativity
And the control omg , the worst part of the game.
Shouldn’t have just copied street fighter and call it a day .
Kill the long ass jumping and floatiness
Better hit reaction animations especially a proper trip animation not reuse the stupid ass bounce
Sound small voice clips for hits and attack grunts and yells.
Man they could have just ported this to Saturn with tighter and fluid game play
The sequel was ready but sega cancelled it in favor for virtua fighter.
@@maroon9273 Yup I heard about that but would have been a whole new game no doubt
A versão do Sega CD basicamente seria o 2 e é muito melhor!
O chefão final Dark Side é absurdamente insano.
I always wanted a port of EC CD for the Genesis in late 95. Lots of stuff would be cut but pick a few of the best new characters ( Raven, Ramses) Add in the some of the new backgrounds and update the fighting engine.
Engraçado como são poucos os efeitos sonoros dos personagens
I miss my 1st gen Sega CD. I remember saving up for it and Cobra Command when I first heard about it coming to the States. I bought it with the expectation of getting a Genesis for xmas in 1992 (and I did). Such a great system for its time, but boy it wasn't cheap!.
I have both versions cd and cartridge. I also have the vhs video showing the combos for the game. Brings me back to a simpler time.
Esse Geese do futuro é um chefe muito sacana
The sega cd version is a op. Plus the theme sound so badass
Played this game to death back then. Even then, i knew in my heart that it was a crap SF2 clone.
That is some full screen fmv on the Sega CD, isn't it?
Both versions look fantastic i can't choose between them 👏 💯‼️
Today i just found an old cartridge of this game for my genesis!
Hi!
In my opinion the levels in general are better in the MCD...
Let's also say that the MCD can also boast an F.M.V. presentation truly wonderful, and as always has a significantly superior audio quality. So honestly I would say that overall the MCD clearly wins!
Acho que o Rikuo de Darkstalkers foi baseado no Trident de Eternal Champions
A Capcom se baseou no filme "o monstro da lagoa negra" pra criar Rikuo (fonte: Darkstalkopedia)
@@thekenixkil Mas você viu as semelhanças com este Trident
What would Eternal Champions look like on the PC Engine (TurboGrafx 16) system.
i love this video
Both are cool games, sadly Sega killed this series in favor of Virtua Fighter.
He forgot to use the combo moves on the CD version. 😢
the game also has a subtitle, so its a different version, the comparison is somehow pointless, since its like comparing killer incstinct 2 arcade, with killer incstinctg gold n64
Fiquei impressionado com a qualidade de vídeo da versão do Sega CD. Normalmente as cenas em vídeo não dão em tela cheia e contam com uma quantidade bem limitada de cores.
Está aí um game que merecia e muito ter tido uma versão 32bits no Saturn utilizando o poder do console ou voltar no tempo atual com certeza
Says KOF in the description.
Achei a versão de Mega Drive melhor. Parece que o sistema de colisão está menos eficiente na versão CD.
Sega CD version was soooo much better!!!! What a treat it was
Só os fatalities no final. Lembram as cgs de Killer Instinct
I have played both eternal champions and challenge from the dark side and I do like the 2nd one better because of all the interesting moves, new kills, and smooth fighting styles as well as fighting the dark eternal champion
Mega CD version added a lot of extra stuff, but as far as music and presentation go, I largely prefer the original version.
The music in the Mega CD adaptation makes fully use of the CD audio, but sounds so generic, while the original had some fantastic pieces.
The redesigned backgrounds are also hit or miss. For example, Blade's stage looks way better in the original. Same for the fog effect in Xavier's stage.
They should do an HD remaster edition with selectable options to allow players to choose between their preferred version of BGMs and stages. And a reworked AI, since the original was way too cheap, with horrible input reading.
The music for the genesis was just perfect for each stage.
Sega CD i feel like they tried to hard most of them didnt even sound like they fit the stage like the genesis
If only sega utilized mega cd properly...
WELL THAT'S A F#@KED UP ENDING.
Espero uma versão hack MSU-MD para este grande título assim como Virtua fighter 2.
Just play de megacd version, not need the MSU-MD
The CD version had the most gruesome fatalities in a fighting game at the time due to it being made with pixel art instead of digitalized sprites like in Mortal Kombat, which in turn limited the gore in MK's fatalities.
Tem que ter paciência para vencer estes chefes, hein?!
I think Raven was the first black woman in a fighting game. Possibly in a video game period.
Not really, the first ever black woman in a fighting game is Voodoo from Shaq Fu which came out in 1994, a full year before Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side which came out in 1995 as Raven was not in the 1994 Sega Genesis version.
Both good Sega cd is better
The intro is beautiful
Yo tuve la suerte de jugarlo en su época para la version de Sega Genesis y puedo decir que el juego en la parte gáfica y de sonido estaba muy bien, pero la jugabilidad era bastante pobre comparado a otros juegos del momento como street fighters y Mortal Kombart.
Los movimientos especiales muy difíciles de hacer y casi nunca salian a la primera sumado que tampoco se sabia bien como hacerlos ya que no habia mucha info de este juego terminabas usando solo el golpe y la patada nada más y a fin de cuentas el juego se hacia aburrido.
Lo mejor los gráficos y las talaities de los stage
jugablemente, las físicas, las animaciones y todo eso es infinitamente mejor que mortal kombat
@@rolero1596 no me parece pero igualmente el resultado jugable era peor que es lo que importa.
Los movimientos se sentian pesados y lentos
This game came out same year when Nintendo and Rare made Killer Instinct for arcade.
Damn
This game had a pretty tought competition then
The series had a lot of potential
But we all know how incompetent sega is and axed this series for virtua fighter
No compare possible. The Sega Genesis is a System from 1988, and the sega CD from 1991, 64 colors, based on the Genesis. Eternal Champions was made without High-End Rendering-Engiens and without a Shelter of money. And without any Multi-Bit-FX-Chip.
I prefer the Genesis so much.
The base of the game was good if it had every element needed it would have competed with the others but i can name countless stuff that needs to be fixed and story needs altering to make sense for every character but it could have been a goldmine. Keyword: Base of the game was good but man frame data just being one thing out of 100 thats well ….oof
Artisticamente esse game é incrível, até para os dias de hoje com toda evolução na criação de games para o Mega Drive! A única coisa que acho fraco nele é a jogabilidade, trilhas sonoras para o Mega merecia músicas mais bem feitas, no estilo do Koshiro.
Que? This game was DARK!
amo la musica del juego en MD
El de megadriver no se mueve así en la consola va más lente.
Joguinho desgraçado de tão difícil, só consegui zerar uma vez na vida, e quando finalmente você consegue, o final é só um texto subindo na tela, lamentável.
chefao final estupido de dificil, e quando vc perde vc volta duas lutas.
esse jogo tem os mesmos efeitos sonoros do Street Fighter 2 kkk
Dos socos e chutes ...o resto quem dera 😂
Será que este Trident é brasileiro?
ruclips.net/video/RyS_MLNPzWw/видео.html sim, olha no perfil dele, no Mega.
@@Retro_White Acho que ali só está explicando a origem da capoeira. Diz que Trident é da submersa Atlantis
@@fabiojuniooliveira6862 Verdade, mano, erro meu
Desde o começo achei o fim aquele negócio que os inimigos faziam e de repente ficavam rápidos e davam vários golpes seguidos que nem o street de rodoviária. Ter que voltar duas fases a cada continue usado me fizeram parar de dar chances pra esse jogo e ainda bem que fiz isso. Essa batalha final sem fim depois de tanto trabalho pra ver final em texto ia me fazer jogar controle pela janela. Será que não perceberam que o dawson e o larcen são basicamente o mesmo design? E ainda por cima baseado no indiana jones.
O interesse de games de luta 1v1 é o modo 2 players. O resto é conversa... Mas sim - a parte mais fraca desse título bem da hora é a fraqueza da programação do vs CPU. Tenho quase a certeza que esse game usa um sistema de difficuldade adaptativa que se deve ao fato do "Eternal Champions" ter sido produzido para o periférico 'Sega Activator'.
@@nmpltleopardi nesse tempo a sega inventou isso da dificuldade que se adaptava mas era conversa fiada. Eles viram que não dava mais tempo de programar direito a dificuldade então inventaram isso e usaram no marketing pra falar que se o jogo tá difícil é porque tu tá jogando muito bem. O primeiro Ecco teve isso também.
@@historiarevista Esse ponto de vista faz sentido... tem razão - programar boa A.I. de luta de fato leva tempo. Mas jogo de luta, como jogo de esporte é para ser jogado em modo versus e assim essa negligência não é muito grave. Especialmente uma vez que você pode entrar no modo de treino para testar golpes e especiais nesse game.
Bem enfadonho esses final boss ,vira luz ,vai pra janela,volta pra roupa,e isso se repete 16x,no Sega CD,haja paciência!
Top d mais ,SEGA❤❤
Trident stage better on cart the splashes 🌊💦 more
O vencedor foi aquele que não gastou dinheiro e não pegou depressão jogando essa gambiarra aí...
You messed up the audio, as the Sega CD sound comes from the left rather than from the right. See 15:40.
Genesis version has better gameplay but CD version has cool cutscenes...
Why do you think it has better gameplay? for what I have heard the CD one is much better, it actually has a combo system for example
@@oscarzxn4067 CD version has extra features ok, but genesis version is more smoother then CD version. And it's important for a fighting game.
@ what? No... the original version didnt have a combo system. It was added in the CD version and made the game much better to play.
@ I personally think having a more robust fighting system is way more important than being a bit smoother, but whatever
The Genesis version definitely wasn’t “smoother” and it didn’t have better gameplay man. Lol. The Sega CD version was definitely much better from a gameplay perspective because it added combo moves, some special moves that didn’t use meter, and it was faster.
I think the Genesis version has better music but that’s about it.
Esse game na época recebeu inúmeros elogios. Tenho as revistas nacionais de games até hoje enaltecendo os gráficos e Sprites enormes no mega drive. Inclusive fazendo um breve comparativo aos games de luta do SNL Neo Geo pela semelhança. Só faltou o efeito zoom.
Qual revista cita a comparação? Sabe o número?
Sempre achei esse jogo uma M****, saiu para mega e sega CD, e não deu em nada, a própria Sega tratou de levar ele para o limbo dos jogos esquecidos.
Obviamente as músicas no SEGA CD são infinitamente superiores, mas não valia o investimento, já que de resto tudo se mantém muito próximo ou igual
One of the best games I've ever seen in all my life.
Kkkkkkk A conferida do tubarão
Como eram as coisas naquela época né ? Eles enchiam de CG pra impressionar mas o jogo em si é uma khda só! Sega CD tinha muito mais capacidade para fazer um jogo realmente lindo!
SEGA CD
Sgi cinematic was really good for sega cd. But game himself isn't better... Unfortunately they wasn't able to use 12mhz 68000 of sega cd for make better this port
O de Sega CD é uma versão definitiva.