I've been through this cycle countless times for about 13 years, never even thought about cheating or talking what so ever, so I feel like what's left of me is just some scattered self ashes.
Hhahhaha!! Couple of “Jills” lying around if he is a narc fish! Funny!!! Boo on the pronunciation police! I have my masters degree in English and I appreciate the beauty and diversity of accents, not to mention the admiration that someone has put forth the effort to learn and to communicate with me in my own native language- which is not an easy one to learn, whether it is a first or second or seventh language. Thank you for this information, Dr. V! When we are blessed enough to receive wisdom from all of our knowledge, then we will stop calling out others for the nonessentials.
Not sure if you guys cares but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend these days xD
It is so scary to be in this situation- the private conversations I’ve had on the app Whisper really helped me sort out some of these crazy false realities and provide a breath of life so I did not feel like I was cheating although I was betraying/testing the story of the narc It’s crazy how true that the men who may be objectively worse are so much better in ways that brought me back to reality Absolutely resuscitation from these strangers that helped save my life and soul
You are the very best of the best!!! I do NOT want to be feed for any narcissist ever! It’s the truth! You have taken my terminally chaotic state, and piece by piece put all of the puzzle pieces in place!! And, made me laugh, now and again!!! I’ve spend many many hours. You’re making the world a better place. Thanks. A lot!!
When I was with a narcisist, I felt could, froze and I needed to get ride of that couldness that he left me, so I ended up leaving him, because I really felt bad. I felt the need to end that feeling of emptiness and to feel like un object and not I
Sam, you just don't know what a ripple you have made in the deep, dark seas of the human un/conscious. Again, this is exactly what I am going through right now but as the borderline/covert narcissist. I have gotten to the point in this rship where I do not want to pleasure him back and am in fact disgusted and aggravated when he expects me to do so. This is insanity!!!! But I am so glad to finally see and understand and bring my shadow into the light.
Assuming the women is normal and in a healthy relationship. Is it also fair to say that some women also find this shared fantasy appealing since it gives them a novelty experience or a temporary escape from routine, mundaneness or even reality for a short while without commitment and emotional investment?
Professor Vaknin, you’ve stated in another video that some cerebral narcissists may be “closet” homosexuals. My question is: since both the cerebral and somatic narcissist are the same yet the somatic (especially sadistic) hate women and only use their bodies for the many reasons you’ve mentioned, is there a high possibility for them to be “closet” homosexuals also? If so, do they actually LIKE the same sex or is it strictly a preference since they hate women? Thank you so much for your time.
Do all somatic narcissistic men have issues with their mothers ? is it hate for their own mothers that makes them sadistic? Once they find a partner who prove to be solid good mother so to speak do they tend to stay faithful? Thank u! I appreciate ur time to educate us all!
Dr. Vaknin -- Is there any difference in the application of your "replace-discard-devalue-idealise" technique (from the Budapest video) when it comes to Somatic narcissists? And is there a particular moment in the cycle when this technique is most effective to manipulate the somatic narc? Thank you for all the info!
That explains a lot why Elvis treated Priscella the way he did after she had their daughter. Do you know the story behind Elvis, his mother & Priscella, Dr. Vaknin? What are your thoughts
Having watched Vaknin Vids for half a year now, I ascertained my stalker ex is a covert narcissist. Good so far. I had ruled out him being a somatic narc as he abhors body building/sport, and values exclusivity in partners... but as time goes on, it seems he is a combination of somatic narc too, I guess due to his height of nearly 2m, and *endowments and youthful look and the way he looked at girls . Yet it’s so tricky to pinpoint where the failed grandiosity hides. /Is it possible to be semi somatic and semi cerebral/ (reads a lot, thinks he’s more evolved human, occasionally says he’s G-d) covert narc?
Sam Vaknin thanks. I hope I find out which cycle I’m witnessing parts of. This “cold love” of information seems more reliable than “warm” love somehow!
Haha my somatic ex also tried to convince me that he may have genius- level IQ. Actually, one night, when high on cocaine, he implied that he has alien genetics lol.
You speak about a fascination with incest; is this strictly a fantasy (nasty!) Or is there evidence of this manifesting into actual danger to family members such as children of the relationship? Is this type of person capable of rationalizing incest in some way as to alleviate guilt or something to that effect?
Does cerebral narcissistic person seek to make his partner to behave as mother or seek motherly types on the purpose to avoid intimacy and to gain control and then seek others for sex ?
Katrina Matagne I think one side must prevail. Either somatic or cerebral !🤔u can’t avoid sex and seek it at the same time. Or can one do that? Maybe just to torture the woman ... wind her up and leave her frustrated ?
Good day Dr, Vacnin.i would like to recommend your work to my friend but I couldn't find your work that translated to Russian language. Can you point me in the right direction please, thank you.
English a very hard language. For some reason the "rules" are erratic. Sliver should be pronounced as you did, but when it means a slice of someting, it is pronounced differently. No logic at all.
![ARGENTINA vs. CHILE [3-0] | RESUMEN | ELIMINATORIAS SUDAMERICANAS | FECHA 7](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/De3AWmXzhuA/mqdefault.jpg)
your description of the shared fantasy, losing the self and all is unbelievably acurate
I've been through this cycle countless times for about 13 years, never even thought about cheating or talking what so ever, so I feel like what's left of me is just some scattered self ashes.
Hhahhaha!! Couple of “Jills” lying around if he is a narc fish! Funny!!! Boo on the pronunciation police! I have my masters degree in English and I appreciate the beauty and diversity of accents, not to mention the admiration that someone has put forth the effort to learn and to communicate with me in my own native language- which is not an easy one to learn, whether it is a first or second or seventh language.
Thank you for this information, Dr. V!
When we are blessed enough to receive wisdom from all of our knowledge, then we will stop calling out others for the nonessentials.
Absolutely right 👍
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Not sure if you guys cares but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend these days xD
@Leon Taylor Yup, been watching on instaflixxer for since december myself =)
@Leon Taylor definitely, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself :)
Thank you, thank you thank you... this is my experience 😢... I always thought my "insignificant other" narcissist was somatic. Now I see both in him
It is so scary to be in this situation- the private conversations I’ve had on the app Whisper really helped me sort out some of these crazy false realities and provide a breath of life so I did not feel like I was cheating although I was betraying/testing the story of the narc
It’s crazy how true that the men who may be objectively worse are so much better in ways that brought me back to reality
Absolutely resuscitation from these strangers that helped save my life and soul
Omg! I finally understand why my narc was calling me mummy... I was so confused...
Sam i would like you to gather all the narcessists in the whole world and read them the riot act and restore balance to the planet 🤒
You are the very best of the best!!! I do NOT want to be feed for any narcissist ever! It’s the truth! You have taken my terminally chaotic state, and piece by piece put all of the puzzle pieces in place!! And, made me laugh, now and again!!! I’ve spend many many hours. You’re making the world a better place. Thanks. A lot!!
When I was with a narcisist, I felt could, froze and I needed to get ride of that couldness that he left me, so I ended up leaving him, because I really felt bad. I felt the need to end that feeling of emptiness and to feel like un object and not I
Sam, you just don't know what a ripple you have made in the deep, dark seas of the human un/conscious. Again, this is exactly what I am going through right now but as the borderline/covert narcissist. I have gotten to the point in this rship where I do not want to pleasure him back and am in fact disgusted and aggravated when he expects me to do so. This is insanity!!!! But I am so glad to finally see and understand and bring my shadow into the light.
I think Im a somatic narcissist and my boy a cerebral. We have a lot of issues now, of course. It is a reallt enlightening video. Love your accent
The fantasy was addicting though he told me I looked like his mother and he was very proud of his tools almost bragging
Thank you!! Valuable information! Thank you for using your platform to help others!
A highly intelligent somatic narcissist that’s even more dangerous ⚠️
Assuming the women is normal and in a healthy relationship. Is it also fair to say that some women also find this shared fantasy appealing since it gives them a novelty experience or a temporary escape from routine, mundaneness or even reality for a short while without commitment and emotional investment?
Yes, of course! Women end up in a shared fantasy because they want to.
Thank you for answering
Read the largest study ever conducted on this topic, summarized in the book "A Billion Wicked Thoughts".
This is pretty wild and accurate!
Professor Vaknin, you’ve stated in another video that some cerebral narcissists may be “closet” homosexuals. My question is: since both the cerebral and somatic narcissist are the same yet the somatic (especially sadistic) hate women and only use their bodies for the many reasons you’ve mentioned, is there a high possibility for them to be “closet” homosexuals also? If so, do they actually LIKE the same sex or is it strictly a preference since they hate women? Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you very much for your education and help to heal
I would like to know will somatic narcissist men make lots of selfies photos of his face ?
Yes. And of their muscular, well-honed bodies (in a gym, beach, etc.)
@@samvaknin
Thank you Sir Vaknin
Is it possible for a somatic narcissist to have multiple shared fantasies with multiple people at the same time? Or is it one at a time?
One at a time.
Do all somatic narcissistic men have issues with their mothers ? is it hate for their own mothers that makes them sadistic? Once they find a partner who prove to be solid good mother so to speak do they tend to stay faithful? Thank u! I appreciate ur time to educate us all!
Somatic narcissists cannot be faithful: their preferred form of narcissistic supply is sexual conquest.
@@samvaknin I believe this but I found this out in a hard way,had hope that never fulfilled...😂😭
Sam Vaknin thank u!👍
Sam Vaknin Thank you very much!
Dr. Vaknin -- Is there any difference in the application of your "replace-discard-devalue-idealise" technique (from the Budapest video) when it comes to Somatic narcissists? And is there a particular moment in the cycle when this technique is most effective to manipulate the somatic narc?
Thank you for all the info!
The cycle is identical.
That explains a lot why Elvis treated Priscella the way he did after she had their daughter. Do you know the story behind Elvis, his mother & Priscella, Dr. Vaknin? What are your thoughts
He married her as a child
Having watched Vaknin Vids for half a year now, I ascertained my stalker ex is a covert narcissist. Good so far. I had ruled out him being a somatic narc as he abhors body building/sport, and values exclusivity in partners... but as time goes on, it seems he is a combination of somatic narc too, I guess due to his height of nearly 2m, and *endowments and youthful look and the way he looked at girls . Yet it’s so tricky to pinpoint where the failed grandiosity hides. /Is it possible to be semi somatic and semi cerebral/ (reads a lot, thinks he’s more evolved human, occasionally says he’s G-d) covert narc?
No. You are witnessing different parts of the cycle. Watch the video I will upload today, in 15 minutes.
Sam Vaknin thanks. I hope I find out which cycle I’m witnessing parts of. This “cold love” of information seems more reliable than “warm” love somehow!
Really trying to find the video of them being in the closet could you send the link please 🙏🏻
Sam, is it possible that a somatic narcissist is also a covert?
Yes.
@@samvaknin Thank you, Sam
Haha my somatic ex also tried to convince me that he may have genius- level IQ. Actually, one night, when high on cocaine, he implied that he has alien genetics lol.
Perfect🤭
Mine too. He actually claimed to be alien once.
'OUT OF THIS WORLD '... hahaha 😮😂😢
Thank you for your insights. How about when the behaviors of both a somatic and cerebral Narcissist are at play? Thank you.
How about you search the channel before you ask questions that are tackled in dozens of vids here?
You speak about a fascination with incest; is this strictly a fantasy (nasty!) Or is there evidence of this manifesting into actual danger to family members such as children of the relationship? Is this type of person capable of rationalizing incest in some way as to alleviate guilt or something to that effect?
Capable of actual incest. Watch the relevant videos on incest and regarding the narcissist and his family.
Where do we find the dudes he's talking about around 9 minutes?? 😅
I forgive you
Don't do this to me.
Lol 😂😂😂😂
xD hahaha
Is there a difference between the cerebral and somatic narcissists false self? Is the somatic less able to maintain the false self ? Many thanks.
The False Self is the same only the locus (content) of the grandiosity is different.
Does cerebral narcissistic person seek to make his partner to behave as mother or seek motherly types on the purpose to avoid intimacy and to gain control and then seek others for sex ?
Cerebral narcissists are celibate, they don’t have sex with anyone and they are proud of this “accomplishment”.
Sam Vaknin thank you Dr Vaknin! Does these categories of narcissist apply to women as well ? Thank u!
Sam Vaknin are these type of men prone to rely on pornography only?
Katrina Matagne I think one side must prevail. Either somatic or cerebral !🤔u can’t avoid sex and seek it at the same time. Or can one do that? Maybe just to torture the woman ... wind her up and leave her frustrated ?
me some time ago
Good day Dr, Vacnin.i would like to recommend your work to my friend but I couldn't find your work that translated to Russian language. Can you point me in the right direction please, thank you.
My work is available only in English.
English a very hard language. For some reason the "rules" are erratic. Sliver should be pronounced as you did, but when it means a slice of someting, it is pronounced differently. No logic at all.