@@slaw2468 thats just one idea of Batman in his infinite iterations. Even OG batman is down to kill if he has not other choice. He is more likely to kill superman than anyone else if Supes goes off the deep end, because he knows if he doesn't life for the planet is over.
Batman has even admitted in Batman: Hush that the reason he survives against Superman is because Superman never goes all out because they're friends. His humanity is often his greatest weakness in a fight. "If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and punch me into the ground. Deep down, he's a better man than me." (Summary of the quotes)
What's your point the true point of the quote is that superman is better than batman because he got over his parents death and became a symbol for hope and peace but batman couldn't get over it and became batman a symbol of fear
@@purpleheartneptune6267 how is it Batman hate? Just stating the obvious that if Superman really wanted it, Batman wouldn't be a threat to him. He's even defeated Batman armed with Kryptonite in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel by catching him by surprise from a distance. In the Dark Knight Returns, Superman is actively holding back because he wants to apprehend Batman and bring him in. Batman relies on Superman holding back in all their fights, as if he didn't, many of their fights would end quickly.
yeah because it’s fun to see if people didn’t buy those issues they wouldn’t do it anymore but people buy them to read them and they become pretty popular so they keep making it happen
Because Evil Superman sells very well. for some reason people think Superman is a 1 dimensional character so the only way to make him "good" is to turn him evil.
This is why i love Batman,he's a human without superpowers, makes hundreds of gadgets to get an edge, and never ever gives up, and goes up against superman every time to save the world.
@@mikitadou to be fair superman is also a walking plot convenience with no consistency at all. One issue he gets beaten by the random villain of the week hes fighting, the nextt hes singlehandedly taking on darkseid. One issue a red sun makes him completely powerless, the next its a minor inconvenience. Kryptonite cann kill him...exwpt when it can't. You get the point.
I mean after characters like Homelander, Brightburn, Ultrman and Hyperion, all characters inspired by and based on Superman who are all superpowered villains, not to mention all the Evil Versions of Superman, yeah the contingencies are WAY beyond justified.
Can definitely blame him,he obviously spent more time preparing to stop his friends than making sure his villains are locked away permanently. Darkseid,Zod,Superman etc have been imprisoned at times but you tell me he hasn't found a way to keep Joker locked get the fuck out of here
@@TheBlaze22b yeah they can't take evidence from vigilantes but come on, this dude has killed hundreds of people surly pleading insanity would be invalid by this point.
Doomsday is Superman’s top 2 enemies that he fears. Batman is Superman’s greatest friends and allies. With them two combined, Superman should definitely fear and respect Batman. Besides, he brought a bank to save Clark’s family farm.
I didn't like the series because it was all batman, dont get me wrong it looks cool but man it's just batman. Imagine flash x captain cold where the flash traveled to the zero point or the beginning of everything and his speed is so fast that it freezes everything near him. Having this cool ice powers to use with a wave at his hand. Or Martian Manhunter x Despero where Martian Manhunter tried to destroy the flame of py'tar from Despero but with his shapeshifting abilities, manhunter absorbed the dangerous flame. Giving Manhunter the abilities to shape reality and conjure demons from within the mind but forever burning in flames. So much that can be so cool my dude. Its just batman, be cooler to see it as a JLA x Injustice League type of thing.
@@OriginalXVeris Let's be honest though, Superman could EASILY do better than that IF he wanted to. Superman is able to process more than Brainiac and is smarter than Bruce, with access to more tech, he CHOOSES to just be a reporter to not be suspected as Superman.
@@AK-tf3fc Dude was still raised in Smallville, the american utopia. A non-white Kal-El might change his mind on a few things after moving to Metropolis, but he usually just decides that he can make America better.
Superman: *sneezes* Wonder-women: Bless you Clark Flash: whoa, I didn’t know you can sneeze Superman: I can’t. Something is wrong. Batman: Alfred, the plan is working. Get more of the orderless transparent kryptonite flu gas.
there's a very easy way to Injustice Superman get his powers back, Platinum Kryptonite which is gold Kryptonite polar opposite if a depowered Kryptonian or a human comes in contact with it gives them Kryptonian powers.
@@Athaeme I mean it's literally just the kryptonite equivalent of a red sun, and can only be created through a very small amount of means, one being via Firestorm's manipulation of radiation.
@@stevent3676 I don't have a problem with it, I was pointing out a double standard @link holder seemed to have having a problem with one and not the other is retarded
@@Athaeme well to be fair, most kryptonite is just that: Kryptonite. It's designed to cause harm or to be a hindrance of some kind to beings where there otherwise isn't one. But from the sounds of it, Platinum Kryptonite is the exact opposite of what most pieces of kryptonite are meant to do.
Injustice Wonder Woman was just waiting for Lois Lane to croak. That mortal woman who would have died in 60+ years regardless, took the most wonderful man she had ever known, away from an immortal demigoddess. So of course she egged on Superman's more ruthless tendencies.
The grenades in BvS are also lined with lead, so Superman could not see the contents of the grenades. A theory also discusses that Batman may have put Scarecrow’s fear gas in them too because of Batman mentioning “That’s fear.”
They would have said that though, because that's too interesting of a detail. BVS was probably just trying to be cool and the fans made it more than it is
@@Googaliemoogalie gotta agree with the OP on this one. Even if I didn't think of it before the "that's fear." Line being a reference to scarecrow's fear toxin makes a lot more sense than batman just trying to intimidate super man. I mean, trying to intimidate someone who can probably decapitate someone with the flick of his finger wouldn't be the best idea. It'd make sense and it'd feel like a bit of fanservice for the fans who catch the comment
The arrow is definitely my favorite because of how hard it is to make it. Batman needing a insane amount of wealth and time just for one kryptonite arrow makes it believable that kryptonite came from another planet, and it makes it more special.
i also like how the kryptonite shoots off the arrow instead of the arrow actually stabbing superman because it proves he knew that superman would catch it or at least expected him to
@@StagbeetlesRule kryptonite is literally cynide for kryptons, only reason superman survived cause batman didn't want to kill superman, just weaken him.
batman has tons of plans for everything, that could kill any hero on the planet, and he just went rogue what will the man of steel do, now that every weapon in the world is pointed at him, all equipped with every type of kryptonite bullet on the planet?
@@8911145533 The entire movie is about batman slowly and consciously dehumanizing both himself and superman, right before he tries to kill him he out loud says " you were never a god, you were never even a man". How the fuck is a character experiencing character development in response to being reminded of a core memory he had otherwise suppressed stupid, it's literally basic fucking storytelling.
I absolutely love the suicide vest story, it's perfect, shows the best parts of both heroes - Superman's amazing powers and his ability to determine truth from lie, and Batman's bold and cunning strategies of exploiting and using Superman's own STRENGTHS against him, as well as his willingness to sacrifice himself. Most of all, though, it showed that they both deeply care about protecting the weak and would never willingly harm an innocent.
3:56 I would never say that the Atom is one of the weakest heroes in the DC universe. He’s a genius biologist that can manipulate the bodies of others by crawling inside them.
Remember when everyone was making memes about Ant-Man crawling up thanos's ass to kill him by growing bigger? If you think about it the atom could hilariously do the same thing to darkseid lmao
There always seems to be a character breach or plot device that pits the two against each other. Superman is mind controlled. Superman is Soviet. Superman is a US government lackey that lasers his friend's arm off. Superman kills Joker but decides, "Hey, I'm still kinda angry." At their core, both heroes have a strong enough moral compass to not duke it out.
Well besides the batman V Superman movie where Superman was more or less blackmailed into trying to kill batman. Even though he still fucking lost lmao
@@jonhperez6068 Batman won here. The movie was shit, however Batman would've killed Superman if he wouldn't said," Martha", "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!"
You forgot The Batman Who Laughs using special synthetic black kryptonite that kills super man in a matter of moments, but not before driving him insane. He then kidnaps Lois and John, brings them to the watchtower, fills it with some sort of gas that nullifies Clark’s heat vision and makes his eyes bleed, then just throws the kryptonite at him. He goes mad and kills Lois and John before succumbing.
@@ProjektTaku I think this story is before the return of Classic Conner. So currently it's the Young Justice clone who stayed in the future with Cassie and Bart.
Everyone always overlooks that Bruce Wayne/ Batman is an insane controlled person that is a tactician. He has backup plans for hundreds of backup plans. So his genius level intellect knows exactly what to do against Superman. Yes, Superman could just use his super speed and kill Batman, or be miles away and use his heat vision to kill him, but Batman knows this and plans ahead for this. Batman's mind is his greatest weapon.
@@silverstar1238 ever heard of Lex Luthor? A genius billionaire who is considered to be the most intelligent person on Earth. Also Batman himself has admitted that if it wasn't for Superman's humanity he would have been dead in an instant.
Not really, he just can't plan for certain things which is why, after all this time, we haven't seen Superman do those certain things. He's always been written, even in cases of him going evil, to be holding back. If he woke up, wanted to kill Batman and not care about any collateral damage to anyone or anything, flying halfway to the sun then picking up speed on the flight back and kinetic dropping himself on top of batman would do the job. Nothing Bruce could conceivably plan in a short enough amount of time, if at all, could handle what would be the energy release equivalent of dropping a nuke on his head. Batman can beat Superman purely because plot armor dictates that A. Superman would never go scorched earth and B. Seeing him body Batman instantly would be too expected, thus boring.
The reason that Batman wins is of course what you mentioned but you're forgetting many things 1. He's the most insanely unrealisticly plot armoured superhero character ever. He took punches from literal gods that want to kill him (darkseid for example) without a mech suit on yet is able to breathe. don't forget that one time in Batman Confidential where he beat the entire Justice League in a full on head to head combat without a contingency plan to defeat them lol (he even was faster than the flash because apparently he was able to counter flash's punch at full superspeed) and also he knocked wonder woman out with a single elbow to the head lol. 2. Superman winning againts batman would be considered boring to most 3. Batman admits that he can win against superman because Superman's always holding back, his humanity is his greatest weakness 4. For some reason Kryptonite despite being a very rare mineral that only existed in Superman's planet and that only a chunk fell to earth is apparently so common in the DC universe you could probably buy it at a Walmart 5. He's Batman, you hardly ever see him lose to anyone because a comic where Batman (a regular human without powers) gets defeated by someone with superpowers would definitely not sell as well as a comic where he beats literal gods (kind of defeats the whole purpose of a mortal making a god bleed if Batman loses to superpowered enemies)
Tbh I don’t really see how Batman could beat Superman in a majority of their fights. Superman always holds back but even if he moved at the speed of sound Batman could not really catch him
Superman was mind controlled before so he wasn't holding back. Batman is simply has the intelligence and the resources to beat Superman. Superman can't defend against these because he's never had to rely on anything like that himself.
Superman defeats himself when he chooses to talk with Batman first. I mean he could just throw a rock from a mile away, perfectly calibrated so that the pressure will only knock Batman out but still goes down and tries to talk.
@@Kira22558 it makes sense, there are times that Superman had gone out of control (became evil) that his trust issues agaisn't sups really is just as that highly extreme. He knew how superior Superman is compared to him yet he also knew his Biggest Weakness just to neutralized or weakened him down, Not kill. (Kryptonite)
Well, Slade (typically described as being very similar to Batman in how he fights) did fight and kill Lapetus, so we already know it's doable with the right equipment.
My favourite is turning superman's powers against himself The sonic blaster in DKR would be DEVASTATING Just imagine it, Superman is looking for batman with his super vision and hearing and then all of a sudden he gets hit from every direction by light and overwhelming noise
Should be titled, "Every way Batman has let a criminal live so they could come back and commit mass murder with a side of destruction again and again."
Terrible analogy Bodybuilders are typically slow due to muscle mass and can't really fight,cause well they aren't fighters. That's not true for Superman,he is nearly as fast as he is strong and he can actually fight very well,he has stood up to Batman when he was weakend to his level or Batman was powered to his and to do that you need to be a really good fighter.Even when he was depowered to human level he stomped several thugs like a vigilante would. Also he isn't built like a bodybuilder either,he is buff yeah but normally proportioned buff.
@@magicaldemonboy100 I'll give you a thumbs up for the good joke that made me laugh but I'd say a better analogy would be the same one that you made but in it you would have a hand gun or at the very least a bat (heh).
I think you're forgetting the most crucial detail upon why Batman always beat Superman. Because DC fans love Batman more than Superman & because the script/plot said so. As strong as Superman is he can never be stronger than the people writing him. If you want an accurate representation of what would happen if Batman & Superman actually fought, without favoritism look up Omni Man vs Darkwing. Sums it up pretty well I'd say.
Superman is damn powerful, it's disheartening to see that none of the comics give him an edge over batsman in the final battle. In real life Superman can kill batman in more ways than Batman can kill Superman. I'm sure of it.
Batmans plot armour is just too good which makes the story better. Superman can but batman knows superman is a good person, and that's the reason superman doesn't win, part of his character, which is why you can't say the "not holding back" part
@@gokublack8342 Exactly what I'm saying, you don't even have to know how to fight just get yourself a Green Kryptonite and wait, I don't even understand why batman beating him is a huge thing.
@@Tone_Of_Dials just explain it to him ass. He is resistant bc he’s a direct descendant of Rao, the Red Sun god of Krypton. And also if You’re familiar With the saying: “power levels are bullshit”
@@therunn3197 Yeah, but not specifying which ones they're referring to. Like, Superman has been in thousands of comic book issues, you have to more specific
Well they never really fought in the main cannon DC the only time they fought was like when they first met and that wasn't really a fight and the justice League buster was in the batman comic run which was kind of canon
The mutant restraint collar should technically work preventing the powers from manifesting. Also soundwave should be able to beat him with an empty enegon cube since it would drain his powers. Technically any high ranking Jedi/sith should be able to without a fight cut off his powers with the force.
Video idea: everyone who has deducted Darth Vader’s true identity! (and how they did it!) It’s basically the video you did on everyone who’s deduced Batman’s true identity but for Darth Vader NeedleMouse Productions!
Like in the Justice League Vs Teen Titans movies, The Flash could vibrate through Superman’s body and grab an organ, say his heart, and either rip it out or pop it like a water balloon, killing the last son of krypton
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 if they were both removed of all their equipment, powers, and had to fight each other with just their fists, Batman would dominate
Every good version of Superman and even some of the morally grey versions of Superman are in a constant state of self restraint to the point that day almost instinctively pull their punches. He also rarely comprehensively incorporates his broad powetset into his fighting technique.
In the Dark Knight I watched Bane give batman his worse beating in cinema history yet I'm supposed 2 believe Batman can beat Superman? Yeah ok....🤷🏾♂️ tell me anything
Gold kryptonite surgically fused to the skull of Superman and then lead cased kryptonite nerve destroying agent placed at the center or his brain that will go off if decides move faster than 4mph or out of range of his prison.
@@KandiKontent dude. If he wanted to supes could literally drop the moon on earth. Or punch through his chest before he could react. There's no way you can tell me that he goes all out. I mean look at all of his fights in all his comics, tv shows and movies. Supes gives everyone the first few hits less it's against someone like doomsday and darkseid.
Superman is too nerfed down there's no way and I mean no way batman can beat superman.... Dude can literally slow down time and is almost as fast as flash , freeze with breath, laser beams, one punch can literally end batman... Facts forget being a fan boy..... kryptonite is supposed to be rare but for some reason batman manufacturers it
Aside from manufactured weaknesses like Red Sun and Kryponite, a sane Supe's greatest weakness is his moral compass. If the combatant Batman is smart, he'll avoid direct fisticuffs (similar to Lex) and would shield himself behind the justice system or just regular people. He'd appeal to Superman's common sense, since common sense would seldom pit the two against each other in the first place (no mind control, nanobots, dead Loises, or alternate reality governments)
@@silverstar1238 That's like asking how could a lion kill a squirrel. Just punch batman so hard he is a red mist, at a speed batman can't perceive. I now facts sound like bias to some people.
Technically going 0.1% serious would be more than enough for superman to squash batman. The fact that he misses his heat vision and strikes on a slow moving batman is just ludicrous. The guy has a brain that can process huge libraries worth of information in seconds and reaction speed to tag flash...can't deal with batman's acrobatics speed?
superman gets mind controlled so batman gets pink kryptonite and turns him gay so then batman doesn't have to do anything and superman just go shopping. that is my version
Superman: What is a man to a God. Batman:I'm just a man. But I'm a man who knows a Gods every weakness including his fighting style. To you I am your God.😤 Superman: Oh yeah?( Charges at Batman.) *15 Secs later* (Superman on the ground barely breathing) Batman: Why did you make me do this?!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@pachecoh20031 As we said before basically nothing happened after, they just acted like the whole thing never went down, it's never addressed after this but they're seen working together after this movie so we can assume Supes just got over it.
Well the main way that batman wins is through creative writing. Because in "real life" batman would be destroyed 1k times out of 1k. It isnt a question. Superman is so fast he can rewind time. He has the ability to move around a city and visit every store before your heart has beat once. And that would be leisurely to him. It doesn't matter what batman could throw at him. It's only creative writing that allows batman to win. Only way in the "real world" batman could win was if it was his birthday and Clark decided to be nice. I love batman, I know his lore and everything he is bringing to the table, but that doesn't change Supermans perception or speed and those are 2 things that a mortal man just couldn't compete with regardless of anything batman could bring to bare.
the time superman was beaten up by Alfred in Injustice was the most memorable moment I had of the series. Alfred would do anything to protect Bruce, and he would never allow anyone to harm his family. Also when you get to the krypton arrow, the Doomsday Virus title card is briefly seen at the start.
I dont get the change in the plan to take down Superman in Justice League doom. Because this plan is supposed to take down a rogue Superman, yet the plan shown hinges entirely on Superman being a nice guy. This plan would be useless on a rogue Superman.
all the plans were altered in some way, it's possible that the original plan had some other way to lure in Superman, or even kept that part open so that the method could be tailored to the which ever scenario they found themselves in.
Superman:*Acts slightly different*
Batman: Looks like I have no choice but to kill him.
Batman doesn’t kill,more like imprision.
@@slaw2468 oh he kills just not often
@@slaw2468 batmans kills but only when absolutely necessary
@@monkeyl- yes but he doesn’t kill is his code.
@@slaw2468 thats just one idea of Batman in his infinite iterations. Even OG batman is down to kill if he has not other choice. He is more likely to kill superman than anyone else if Supes goes off the deep end, because he knows if he doesn't life for the planet is over.
Batman has even admitted in Batman: Hush that the reason he survives against Superman is because Superman never goes all out because they're friends. His humanity is often his greatest weakness in a fight.
"If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and punch me into the ground. Deep down, he's a better man than me." (Summary of the quotes)
Deep down he is a good person, And deep down, I am not...
What's your point the true point of the quote is that superman is better than batman because he got over his parents death and became a symbol for hope and peace but batman couldn't get over it and became batman a symbol of fear
That’s…..just batman hate dude
@@purpleheartneptune6267 how is it Batman hate? Just stating the obvious that if Superman really wanted it, Batman wouldn't be a threat to him.
He's even defeated Batman armed with Kryptonite in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel by catching him by surprise from a distance. In the Dark Knight Returns, Superman is actively holding back because he wants to apprehend Batman and bring him in.
Batman relies on Superman holding back in all their fights, as if he didn't, many of their fights would end quickly.
@@TheReaperofHades injustice
The kryptonite gum is definitely my favourite just because of how funny it is
Most comic book like too lol
Eh I like when lois almost died
Kryptonite Gun
Kryptonite Sword
Kryptonite Spear
Kryptonite Ring
Kryptonite Gauntlet
BvS for me... Director's cut
ruclips.net/video/77qt7dMzkKE/видео.html batman beyond
I love how Batman’s plans for dealing with Clark range from literally blotting out or weaponizing the sun to just shooting him with a big iron.
or just turning on some lights
Or spitting some glowey rock polymer in his eye.
big iron on his hip
he's the Arizona Ranger
BIIIG IIRON, BIIIIIG IIIRON
Take a shot whenever Superman gets mind controlled.
The irony is that Superman should have strong defense against mind control.
Take a shot whenever kryptonite is mentioned, u would be dead half way
im dead ☠️
Id be drunk enough to kill superman
Take a shot everytime kryptonite is used to defeat superman
It’s kinda funny to think one of the most powerful beings is also one of the most tricked, defeated, and mind controlled in the series
yeah because it’s fun to see if people didn’t buy those issues they wouldn’t do it anymore but people buy them to read them and they become pretty popular so they keep making it happen
Because Evil Superman sells very well. for some reason people think Superman is a 1 dimensional character so the only way to make him "good" is to turn him evil.
Because it wouldn't sell. So, you gotta have a storyline.
Which is also weird because if I remember correctly Superman’s brain processes things like 1,200x the speed a normal human does
They have to dumb him down for it to be a compelling story otherwise it's not even a contest. An Ant to a boot scenario
This is why i love Batman,he's a human without superpowers, makes hundreds of gadgets to get an edge, and never ever gives up, and goes up against superman every time to save the world.
Yeah!!!!!
BECAUSE HES BATMAN
He has the thickest plot fortress in DC, he can go and win against DC universe god himself with so much protection.
@@mikitadou to be fair superman is also a walking plot convenience with no consistency at all.
One issue he gets beaten by the random villain of the week hes fighting, the nextt hes singlehandedly taking on darkseid.
One issue a red sun makes him completely powerless, the next its a minor inconvenience.
Kryptonite cann kill him...exwpt when it can't.
You get the point.
He is plot armor man without any money he is NOTHING less then nothing.
Can’t blame Batman for having a contingency plan
I mean after characters like Homelander, Brightburn, Ultrman and Hyperion, all characters inspired by and based on Superman who are all superpowered villains, not to mention all the Evil Versions of Superman, yeah the contingencies are WAY beyond justified.
Exactly.
Can definitely blame him,he obviously spent more time preparing to stop his friends than making sure his villains are locked away permanently.
Darkseid,Zod,Superman etc have been imprisoned at times but you tell me he hasn't found a way to keep Joker locked get the fuck out of here
@@newhybrid101 Gotham's criminal justice system is BS. Its crazy a cop hasnt shot him dead
@@TheBlaze22b yeah they can't take evidence from vigilantes but come on, this dude has killed hundreds of people surly pleading insanity would be invalid by this point.
I love how we transitioned from "He turns into a Doomsday, after almost dying" to "He just spat in his face"
Batman 100% believing he is an innocent man is the most Batman thing I’ve ever heard
You would know if it's a 100% making belief unnecessary
Doomsday is Superman’s top 2 enemies that he fears. Batman is Superman’s greatest friends and allies. With them two combined, Superman should definitely fear and respect Batman. Besides, he brought a bank to save Clark’s family farm.
Bought *
@@Gaeul-j3j Let's be honest, though. If needed, Bruce absolutely has the means and money to just plop a bank on a truck and drive it out there.
@@OriginalXVeris that’s a different story lol
I didn't like the series because it was all batman, dont get me wrong it looks cool but man it's just batman.
Imagine flash x captain cold where the flash traveled to the zero point or the beginning of everything and his speed is so fast that it freezes everything near him. Having this cool ice powers to use with a wave at his hand.
Or
Martian Manhunter x Despero where Martian Manhunter tried to destroy the flame of py'tar from Despero but with his shapeshifting abilities, manhunter absorbed the dangerous flame. Giving Manhunter the abilities to shape reality and conjure demons from within the mind but forever burning in flames.
So much that can be so cool my dude. Its just batman, be cooler to see it as a JLA x Injustice League type of thing.
@@OriginalXVeris Let's be honest though, Superman could EASILY do better than that IF he wanted to. Superman is able to process more than Brainiac and is smarter than Bruce, with access to more tech, he CHOOSES to just be a reporter to not be suspected as Superman.
Superman: Acts a tiny bit strange
Batman: Well looks like I'm gonna have to kill an alien
“He was sus so I killed him”
Superman lucky he's white otherwise he would hate america
@@AK-tf3fc Dude was still raised in Smallville, the american utopia. A non-white Kal-El might change his mind on a few things after moving to Metropolis, but he usually just decides that he can make America better.
Superman: *sneezes*
Wonder-women: Bless you Clark
Flash: whoa, I didn’t know you can sneeze
Superman: I can’t. Something is wrong.
Batman: Alfred, the plan is working. Get more of the orderless transparent kryptonite flu gas.
Not slightly strange dude....He stopped caring about people while saving them...Thats the first step of becoming a Villian/Careless Maniac
The explosive vest is easily the best one here. Character, intelligence and competence shown extraordinarily efficiently.
Batman using kryptonite- **Instant win**
Lex using kryptonite- Is this suppose to hurt?
Clark: *argues with lois*
Bruce: *"ALFRED."*
literally the only guy I come to to see the dc and marvel stories explained in detail, love it
there's a very easy way to Injustice Superman get his powers back, Platinum Kryptonite which is gold Kryptonite polar opposite if a depowered Kryptonian or a human comes in contact with it gives them Kryptonian powers.
Ah yes, the bullshit rock
@@Shadowswolf9666 ah yes, gold kryptonite isn't bullshit at all
@@Athaeme I mean it's literally just the kryptonite equivalent of a red sun, and can only be created through a very small amount of means, one being via Firestorm's manipulation of radiation.
@@stevent3676 I don't have a problem with it, I was pointing out a double standard @link holder seemed to have having a problem with one and not the other is retarded
@@Athaeme well to be fair, most kryptonite is just that: Kryptonite. It's designed to cause harm or to be a hindrance of some kind to beings where there otherwise isn't one. But from the sounds of it, Platinum Kryptonite is the exact opposite of what most pieces of kryptonite are meant to do.
You're telling me injustice's evil Wonder Woman is still a lap dog to The Olympian gods?
Zeus had her mother hostage
Injustice Wonder Woman was just waiting for Lois Lane to croak. That mortal woman who would have died in 60+ years regardless, took the most wonderful man she had ever known, away from an immortal demigoddess. So of course she egged on Superman's more ruthless tendencies.
@@hunterv9983 so basically Amazon wants that Kryptonian dong so she threw a tank of oil into an already burning fire
@@agenti4734
Yes
@@hunterv9983 well there's a bruh moment
The grenades in BvS are also lined with lead, so Superman could not see the contents of the grenades.
A theory also discusses that Batman may have put Scarecrow’s fear gas in them too because of Batman mentioning “That’s fear.”
They would have said that though, because that's too interesting of a detail. BVS was probably just trying to be cool and the fans made it more than it is
@@Googaliemoogalie It's literally in the movie. Stop being biased.
@@Googaliemoogalie gotta agree with the OP on this one. Even if I didn't think of it before the "that's fear." Line being a reference to scarecrow's fear toxin makes a lot more sense than batman just trying to intimidate super man. I mean, trying to intimidate someone who can probably decapitate someone with the flick of his finger wouldn't be the best idea. It'd make sense and it'd feel like a bit of fanservice for the fans who catch the comment
The arrow is definitely my favorite because of how hard it is to make it. Batman needing a insane amount of wealth and time just for one kryptonite arrow makes it believable that kryptonite came from another planet, and it makes it more special.
i also like how the kryptonite shoots off the arrow instead of the arrow actually stabbing superman because it proves he knew that superman would catch it or at least expected him to
@@EvilAutisms yea he even reached to grab it but it powders his face and he gets super disoriented
@@EvilAutisms It also shows that Batman never intended to kill Superman. He could've engineered the arrow to be lethal but he didn't.
@@StagbeetlesRule kryptonite is literally cynide for kryptons, only reason superman survived cause batman didn't want to kill superman, just weaken him.
I love that you watch pretty much every animated dc movie and show. Not many people talk about Brave and the Bold and the LEGO movies
Now we need more fights where Batman is the dominant and superman the underdog
It would be neat
I’m sorry but this just sounds so dirty
That is a story
not possible
That's impossible
batman has tons of plans for everything, that could kill any hero on the planet, and he just went rogue
what will the man of steel do, now that every weapon in the world is pointed at him, all equipped with every type of kryptonite bullet on the planet?
I understand the whole “tie” thing when it comes to Batman V Superman by Snyder, but I definitely count that as a Batman win. No doubts about it.
For plot reasons. And a unbelieavble stupid plot at that. Hearing his mothers name somehow brings Bats out of his " i have to kill this dude" state
@@8911145533well, bc he realises that supes isnt evil, and actually cares about someone. That they have the same name is just a coincidence
@@8911145533 The entire movie is about batman slowly and consciously dehumanizing both himself and superman, right before he tries to kill him he out loud says " you were never a god, you were never even a man". How the fuck is a character experiencing character development in response to being reminded of a core memory he had otherwise suppressed stupid, it's literally basic fucking storytelling.
I absolutely love the suicide vest story, it's perfect, shows the best parts of both heroes - Superman's amazing powers and his ability to determine truth from lie, and Batman's bold and cunning strategies of exploiting and using Superman's own STRENGTHS against him, as well as his willingness to sacrifice himself. Most of all, though, it showed that they both deeply care about protecting the weak and would never willingly harm an innocent.
the actual secret is that batman is always wearing his super secret super powerful bat suit, called "the plot suit"
Bat armor
When Sup was controlled by Ivy Batman manage to take him out just by whistle, that was in King run when Ivy did posses almost whole world
I clicked faster than a speeding bullet
Me too 🤣
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's...
NEEDLEMOUSE PRODUCTIONS!!!!
Ha
I see what you did there Superman and faster than a speeding bullet 😏😎
I clicked more powerful than a locomotive
3:56
I would never say that the Atom is one of the weakest heroes in the DC universe. He’s a genius biologist that can manipulate the bodies of others by crawling inside them.
So he is a Ant man but he isnt afraid of going into anuses?
@@chriswentz5197 basically...yes
@@chriswentz5197 heheh Up close, anus's atoms are just like any other atoms to the Atom.
He's an underrated character⚛️
Remember when everyone was making memes about Ant-Man crawling up thanos's ass to kill him by growing bigger? If you think about it the atom could hilariously do the same thing to darkseid lmao
There always seems to be a character breach or plot device that pits the two against each other. Superman is mind controlled. Superman is Soviet. Superman is a US government lackey that lasers his friend's arm off. Superman kills Joker but decides, "Hey, I'm still kinda angry."
At their core, both heroes have a strong enough moral compass to not duke it out.
Well besides the batman V Superman movie where Superman was more or less blackmailed into trying to kill batman. Even though he still fucking lost lmao
"Batman: Endgame" "Justice Buster"
It can't be a coincidence anymore.
Batman: Endgame predates Avengers: Endgame.
The Justice Buster is actually just a copy of the Hulk-Buster, though.
I think that “Endgame” is a common tittle for different series, so it’s not too rare that you’d probably see the name in a title.
Let's fucking go love it when you upload
Batman: defeats superman like every 5 minutes
People: idk man superman OP
Superman won more
@@jonhperez6068 name like 3 times hes actually won against batman
@@jpegmilitia Bvs is one
@@jonhperez6068 Batman won here. The movie was shit, however Batman would've killed Superman if he wouldn't said," Martha", "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!"
@@jonhperez6068 In all fairness, Batman did lose earlier with his Batmobile, so it was mostly a tie.
You forgot The Batman Who Laughs using special synthetic black kryptonite that kills super man in a matter of moments, but not before driving him insane. He then kidnaps Lois and John, brings them to the watchtower, fills it with some sort of gas that nullifies Clark’s heat vision and makes his eyes bleed, then just throws the kryptonite at him. He goes mad and kills Lois and John before succumbing.
Doesn't he also mention he tested it out on Kara, first?
@@hunterv9983 yes he does, and he said that she ripped her family to shreds before she died
but what about conner?
@@ProjektTaku
I think this story is before the return of Classic Conner. So currently it's the Young Justice clone who stayed in the future with Cassie and Bart.
Everyone always overlooks that Bruce Wayne/ Batman is an insane controlled person that is a tactician. He has backup plans for hundreds of backup plans. So his genius level intellect knows exactly what to do against Superman. Yes, Superman could just use his super speed and kill Batman, or be miles away and use his heat vision to kill him, but Batman knows this and plans ahead for this. Batman's mind is his greatest weapon.
Superman just never has fought agenst someone who thinks like this. That's why he looses
It's sad that he has better contingency plans against his friends than his own rogues gallery.
@@silverstar1238 ever heard of Lex Luthor? A genius billionaire who is considered to be the most intelligent person on Earth. Also Batman himself has admitted that if it wasn't for Superman's humanity he would have been dead in an instant.
Not really, he just can't plan for certain things which is why, after all this time, we haven't seen Superman do those certain things. He's always been written, even in cases of him going evil, to be holding back. If he woke up, wanted to kill Batman and not care about any collateral damage to anyone or anything, flying halfway to the sun then picking up speed on the flight back and kinetic dropping himself on top of batman would do the job. Nothing Bruce could conceivably plan in a short enough amount of time, if at all, could handle what would be the energy release equivalent of dropping a nuke on his head. Batman can beat Superman purely because plot armor dictates that A. Superman would never go scorched earth and B. Seeing him body Batman instantly would be too expected, thus boring.
The reason that Batman wins is of course what you mentioned but you're forgetting many things
1. He's the most insanely unrealisticly plot armoured superhero character ever. He took punches from literal gods that want to kill him (darkseid for example) without a mech suit on yet is able to breathe. don't forget that one time in Batman Confidential where he beat the entire Justice League in a full on head to head combat without a contingency plan to defeat them lol (he even was faster than the flash because apparently he was able to counter flash's punch at full superspeed) and also he knocked wonder woman out with a single elbow to the head lol.
2. Superman winning againts batman would be considered boring to most
3. Batman admits that he can win against superman because Superman's always holding back, his humanity is his greatest weakness
4. For some reason Kryptonite despite being a very rare mineral that only existed in Superman's planet and that only a chunk fell to earth is apparently so common in the DC universe you could probably buy it at a Walmart
5. He's Batman, you hardly ever see him lose to anyone because a comic where Batman (a regular human without powers) gets defeated by someone with superpowers would definitely not sell as well as a comic where he beats literal gods (kind of defeats the whole purpose of a mortal making a god bleed if Batman loses to superpowered enemies)
14:00 "Supes...!? Help us!!" this might just be Batman's best phrase ever
Tbh I don’t really see how Batman could beat Superman in a majority of their fights. Superman always holds back but even if he moved at the speed of sound Batman could not really catch him
Yes , Superman holds back which then causes Bruce to win the majority of their fights.
Superman was mind controlled before so he wasn't holding back. Batman is simply has the intelligence and the resources to beat Superman. Superman can't defend against these because he's never had to rely on anything like that himself.
batman's suit are very fast.
Yeah but what about when Superman is mind controlled?
@@typeouetco1626 what his suits don't have increased speed
How does an ordinary man defeat a god?
the ordinary man is Kal, Bruce just defies all odds making him the true god
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Bruh
The fact that he decided to plant a bomb inside of him is so brutal but I love it
Just slap kryptonite on everything with a few red suns here and there.
Every single way Batman has defeated Superman :
1 - ♾️ : *PLOT ARMOR*
I can hear Batman saying “WELCOME TO THE HUMAN RACE!”
Cringe ew.
@@internetrambo1069 ok bot
@@Michaelengelmann does not change the fact that its still cringe.
@@internetrambo1069 ok bot, very cool
@@Michaelengelmann ugly bot, I know that I am cool.
Superman defeats himself when he chooses to talk with Batman first. I mean he could just throw a rock from a mile away, perfectly calibrated so that the pressure will only knock Batman out but still goes down and tries to talk.
I love your video's keep it up
Superman: *simply exists*
Batman: *finds every possible way to whoop his ass*
*He's a threat* in Batman's mind.
@@darkshadow07186 kind of.
@@Kira22558 it makes sense, there are times that Superman had gone out of control (became evil) that his trust issues agaisn't sups really is just as that highly extreme. He knew how superior Superman is compared to him yet he also knew his Biggest Weakness just to neutralized or weakened him down, Not kill. (Kryptonite)
@@darkshadow07186 depends on which version
@@darkshadow07186 depends on which version
Every way that Batman had defeated Superman.
1) Plot armor
2) Deus ex machina
3) Shenanigans
Exactly. They write in the comics superman full strength punch can wipe out a solar system... batman only wins because superman never is serious
"How does an ordinary man defeat a god." A good question. One we might be able to answer the day Batman actually fights one.
Well, Slade (typically described as being very similar to Batman in how he fights) did fight and kill Lapetus, so we already know it's doable with the right equipment.
My favourite is turning superman's powers against himself
The sonic blaster in DKR would be DEVASTATING
Just imagine it, Superman is looking for batman with his super vision and hearing and then all of a sudden he gets hit from every direction by light and overwhelming noise
Speaking injustice. Who else is excited that dc is finally making a animated film about injustice.
Really? The comic universe or the games, or both? Also do you think they'll ever make an Injystice 3
@@ahmadalaama7217 they gonna follow year 1 comic and maybe they might do more sequels to the year comics.
@@birdypanc9747 prob year 1 since the joker is shown to be killed by Superman
ME INJUSTICE IS AMAZING
@@ahmadalaama7217 i think they’re making a marvel game next but maybe after that
Should be titled, "Every way Batman has let a criminal live so they could come back and commit mass murder with a side of destruction again and again."
The answer is plot armor. Batman beats Superman with plot armor and popularity.
This inspires me to start a fight with a bodybuilder on steroids.
Terrible analogy
Bodybuilders are typically slow due to muscle mass and can't really fight,cause well they aren't fighters.
That's not true for Superman,he is nearly as fast as he is strong and he can actually fight very well,he has stood up to Batman when he was weakend to his level or Batman was powered to his and to do that you need to be a really good fighter.Even when he was depowered to human level he stomped several thugs like a vigilante would.
Also he isn't built like a bodybuilder either,he is buff yeah but normally proportioned buff.
@@newhybrid101 I mean this was a joke but good to know.
@@magicaldemonboy100 I'll give you a thumbs up for the good joke that made me laugh but I'd say a better analogy would be the same one that you made but in it you would have a hand gun or at the very least a bat (heh).
@@vVBEESKNEESVv Fair enough lmao
Bane?
Great video
My favorite way to defeat Superman is throwing Lois lane off a roof.
More like a good way for superman to erase earth
I think you're forgetting the most crucial detail upon why Batman always beat Superman. Because DC fans love Batman more than Superman & because the script/plot said so.
As strong as Superman is he can never be stronger than the people writing him. If you want an accurate representation of what would happen if Batman & Superman actually fought, without favoritism look up Omni Man vs Darkwing.
Sums it up pretty well I'd say.
Superman is damn powerful, it's disheartening to see that none of the comics give him an edge over batsman in the final battle. In real life Superman can kill batman in more ways than Batman can kill Superman.
I'm sure of it.
Batmans plot armour is just too good which makes the story better. Superman can but batman knows superman is a good person, and that's the reason superman doesn't win, part of his character, which is why you can't say the "not holding back" part
Super man has absurd weaknesses that are easy to exploit if you had a shard of kryptonite YOU could literally kill Superman
@@gokublack8342 Exactly what I'm saying, you don't even have to know how to fight just get yourself a Green Kryptonite and wait, I don't even understand why batman beating him is a huge thing.
@@gokublack8342You mean a shard if a rare mineral nobody knows about?
@@simonovie1253Because it's nonsensical. Superman at full speed would have no trouble disabling Batman.
Do they ever specify how or why he developed a resistance to Red Sun radiation
@@Tone_Of_Dials just explain it to him ass. He is resistant bc he’s a direct descendant of Rao, the Red Sun god of Krypton. And also if You’re familiar With the saying: “power levels are bullshit”
@@Scorpiongod934 How is he an ass? He’s literally just encouraging him to read the comic book.
@@therunn3197 Yeah, but not specifying which ones they're referring to. Like, Superman has been in thousands of comic book issues, you have to more specific
@@Wertercat In the video Needlemouse literally specified the comic where he developed a resistance to red sun.
Lex Luthor : You think Batman defeating Superman is gonna impress us ? That happens once a week.
(I know I messed up this line) 😂.
I love how most of the fights batman has with superman is in non canon stories
Facts😂😂😂
Please change your pfp
Well they never really fought in the main cannon DC the only time they fought was like when they first met and that wasn't really a fight and the justice League buster was in the batman comic run which was kind of canon
because having one of the original trinity kill another of the trinity in the main cannon is a bad business decision. They make the most money
Oh just shut up. Batman beat Superman. Deal with it
The mutant restraint collar should technically work preventing the powers from manifesting. Also soundwave should be able to beat him with an empty enegon cube since it would drain his powers. Technically any high ranking Jedi/sith should be able to without a fight cut off his powers with the force.
"Kryptonite is one of the rarest materials in the universe"
Batman: Imma pretend I didn't hear that
What Lantern Rings would The Boys have?
Most would have avarice but but starlight would probably be love or hope
Butcher- Rage
Hughie- Hope
Frenchie- Shame
Himiko- Rage
Mother’s Milk- Compassion
Starlight- Love
@@derekstark9062 shame is one of the rings. What color is it?
@@TheUncivilizedNation Ultraviolet.
We need a Top 10 most badass Alfred moments
The part where he beats up Superman is a great one.
The needle mouse uploads
Lego: maybe we could super charge superman with a sun booster
Kryptonite: am I a joke to you
6:28 and of course the two team up
Robin in the background: Am i joke to you?
Video idea: everyone who has deducted Darth Vader’s true identity! (and how they did it!)
It’s basically the video you did on everyone who’s deduced Batman’s true identity but for Darth Vader NeedleMouse Productions!
Like in the Justice League Vs Teen Titans movies, The Flash could vibrate through Superman’s body and grab an organ, say his heart, and either rip it out or pop it like a water balloon, killing the last son of krypton
I just realized with atoms tech he could end resource droughts like metals and other stuff.
I wonder if he noticed his blooper putting doomsday virus two times
Yeah i noticed that as well
Superman: just wanting to talk
Batman: trying to kill him
Every way Superman has defeated Batman.
Oh, and basically "plot armour."
What's so plot armour ish about simple Kryptonite weapons and Red Solar grenades mostly
Batman is the king of plot armour
@@JimGreen569 yeah, no real threat to him if the *BEST FIGHTER ON THE FUCKING PLANET* still gets put in the same cell the joker has in arkham
@@JimGreen569 Superman got plot too just with powers
@@jockeyfield1954 Batman is not the best fighter on the planet.
Batman beats Superman because he’s Batman. It’s that simple
Well that and if the playing field was leveled he'd always win
nope
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 if they were both removed of all their equipment, powers, and had to fight each other with just their fists, Batman would dominate
plot-armour man
Batman doesn't always win. Batman does lose regardless of being Batman.
The SuperBat
God vs Man
Day vs Night
The son of Krypton vs The Bat of Gotham
Batman vs superman is so underrated
@@BLACKSTA361 what do you mean underated?
@@BLACKSTA361 agree! Ultimate Edition is one of my favorite movies.
@@theonlychickensama8353 means it's awesome
3:17 up in the top left corner he got an achievement if you missed it
Batman only needs two things to beat Superman.
Plot armor and a rabid fan base that won't accept otherwise.
Every good version of Superman and even some of the morally grey versions of Superman are in a constant state of self restraint to the point that day almost instinctively pull their punches. He also rarely comprehensively incorporates his broad powetset into his fighting technique.
Yeah
In the Dark Knight I watched Bane give batman his worse beating in cinema history yet I'm supposed 2 believe Batman can beat Superman? Yeah ok....🤷🏾♂️ tell me anything
Gold kryptonite surgically fused to the skull of Superman and then lead cased kryptonite nerve destroying agent placed at the center or his brain that will go off if decides move faster than 4mph or out of range of his prison.
Take a drink every time you hear the word "Kryptonite"
Oh Good God, this drinking game is gonna kill people...
But hey, natural selection
5:50 white kryptonite can turn a human i to a kryptonian
Oh and the way every Superman has defeated Batman: ONE PUNCH
Amazing
14:00 The fact Batman has called Superman “SUPES” before is very odd.
In the recent Batman & Superman: Future State, he did that, and Superman noted how rare that is.
I think you misspelled everyway Superman has lost to Batman on purpose.
why on earth would superman INTENTIONALLY lose to batman?
@@KandiKontent dude. If he wanted to supes could literally drop the moon on earth. Or punch through his chest before he could react. There's no way you can tell me that he goes all out. I mean look at all of his fights in all his comics, tv shows and movies. Supes gives everyone the first few hits less it's against someone like doomsday and darkseid.
Batman: I am fluent in over 6 million forms of kicking your ass.
Superman is too nerfed down there's no way and I mean no way batman can beat superman.... Dude can literally slow down time and is almost as fast as flash , freeze with breath, laser beams, one punch can literally end batman... Facts forget being a fan boy..... kryptonite is supposed to be rare but for some reason batman manufacturers it
Some of these would still beat superman even if he wasn't nerfed. The suicide vest would probably still work due to Supermans morals.
Bias aside how would superman win?
Aside from manufactured weaknesses like Red Sun and Kryponite, a sane Supe's greatest weakness is his moral compass. If the combatant Batman is smart, he'll avoid direct fisticuffs (similar to Lex) and would shield himself behind the justice system or just regular people. He'd appeal to Superman's common sense, since common sense would seldom pit the two against each other in the first place (no mind control, nanobots, dead Loises, or alternate reality governments)
@@silverstar1238 That's like asking how could a lion kill a squirrel. Just punch batman so hard he is a red mist, at a speed batman can't perceive. I now facts sound like bias to some people.
Impossible for Superman to win when batman gets his blessed prep time and then Superman holding back with literally everyone, took advantage of him
Technically going 0.1% serious would be more than enough for superman to squash batman. The fact that he misses his heat vision and strikes on a slow moving batman is just ludicrous. The guy has a brain that can process huge libraries worth of information in seconds and reaction speed to tag flash...can't deal with batman's acrobatics speed?
Well, Superman’s just too nice, so Batman abuses the hell out of that.
Make a video on how many times batman slept with catwoman it's been a while for a relationship video
At 12:27 Batman just like me when I don't wanna talk to my friends 💀
superman gets mind controlled so batman gets pink kryptonite and turns him gay so then batman doesn't have to do anything and superman just go shopping. that is my version
Anyone else have to do a double take after seeing doomsday virus again when he was talking about the kryptonite arrow?
I think he said it was a rendering bug when his computer overheats.
Do a video every way the bat has beat Superman with his own hands
that video would be 0 seconds long
That maybe true
Superman: What is a man to a God.
Batman:I'm just a man.
But I'm a man who knows a Gods every weakness including his fighting style. To you I am your God.😤
Superman: Oh yeah?( Charges at Batman.)
*15 Secs later*
(Superman on the ground barely breathing)
Batman: Why did you make me do this?!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thor: Doth try that on me, Man of Bats.
Batman: I'm screwed.
@@sonicsucks20 Catches Thors hammer. What is this?
Thor:😭😭😭😭 I'll just retire.
Cringe
Cringe💀🤮
Bro you should literally make a video with title ”How many time Superman has been mind controlled” like that video will be 2 hrs long
What happened after Superman got royally pissed off at Batman for nearly killing the woman that he loves in the movie Batman: Hush?
Nothing came of it in the next movie it's basically ignored.
Nothing
Well I hope Superman is going to forgive Batman
@@pachecoh20031 As we said before basically nothing happened after, they just acted like the whole thing never went down, it's never addressed after this but they're seen working together after this movie so we can assume Supes just got over it.
People who point out that the fights are "not cannon" just ruin the fun.
Next video everytime superman defeated batman.
@@Tone_Of_Dials nope he doesn't do it because he's to nice
Well the main way that batman wins is through creative writing. Because in "real life" batman would be destroyed 1k times out of 1k. It isnt a question. Superman is so fast he can rewind time. He has the ability to move around a city and visit every store before your heart has beat once. And that would be leisurely to him. It doesn't matter what batman could throw at him. It's only creative writing that allows batman to win. Only way in the "real world" batman could win was if it was his birthday and Clark decided to be nice. I love batman, I know his lore and everything he is bringing to the table, but that doesn't change Supermans perception or speed and those are 2 things that a mortal man just couldn't compete with regardless of anything batman could bring to bare.
the time superman was beaten up by Alfred in Injustice was the most memorable moment I had of the series. Alfred would do anything to protect Bruce, and he would never allow anyone to harm his family. Also when you get to the krypton arrow, the Doomsday Virus title card is briefly seen at the start.
I dont get the change in the plan to take down Superman in Justice League doom. Because this plan is supposed to take down a rogue Superman, yet the plan shown hinges entirely on Superman being a nice guy. This plan would be useless on a rogue Superman.
all the plans were altered in some way, it's possible that the original plan had some other way to lure in Superman, or even kept that part open so that the method could be tailored to the which ever scenario they found themselves in.