The problem with trying to nullify the wind is that the head wind works against you longer than the tail wind is working for you. Love your Nine! I'm green with envy.
These videos are fantastic. A friend and I flew model aircraft for years, he recently mentioned that he wanted to learn to fly. The inner-accountant in me immediately said, oh you’ll get through the training ok but the upkeep is expensive, have you thought about a microlight or PPG? So fast forward a few weeks of binge watching your and Giles’ videos and we’re about to book our first experience day at Balado.
Awesome. I’ve not made it to Balado (yet) but Giles tells me they are fantastically enthusiastic bunch of guys up there. Enjoy the experience and lets us know how you get on. 👍👍
@@paulieb796 we had our first experience today, but because we were keen in potentially taking lessons, we got chucked in at the deep end and sat upfront. It was awesome, although I didn’t quite appreciate the angle of attack on takeoff and thought to myself, WTF have I signed up for. But minutes later after doing some 15 then 30 degree turns, ascending and descending, I soon settled into it. Apparently I covered parts of lessons 4 through 6.
Looks like a lot of fun! I’m very interested in videos about the detailed costs to get into flex wing flying including often overlooked items such as clothing and relatively minor accessories which can really add up.
Thanks for the thrown in maths lesson Paul. Enjoyed watching. The steep turns looked great fun as did that first attempt at landing. Keep up the good work. Stay safe. K
Those steep turns are why motorcyclists love flexwings. It’s the same sensation as tipping a bike into a bend. You’d love it mate. I know a very good school for your training. 😉
As always with your videos I enjoyed this. Good content, clearly explained and presented and well edited. Basically all boxes ticked! Catch you at Popham me old mucker. 👍😁
Thank you. Not sure I'm looking forward to making that video. The final figure is bound to be more than I remember and if Mrs B sees it, I'll be in trouble!! 🤔
Great video Paul! Kept me on edge the whole time. Just a few questions... - what do you do with crosswinds? Can you trim the aircraft? - do you have to be careful about the physical limits of the controls? We have to be careful in the R22, especially with weight & balance - what sort of gauges have you got to look at?
Hi Fred. As we don't have any yaw control, the approach to a crosswind landing is to fly at a higher than normal approach speed to reduce the drift angle and ensure we land on the rear wheels first which will allow the trike unit to align with the runway centre line, before allowing the nose wheel to touchdown. In terms of gauges, I don't really have much! I have a gauge which gives me basic engine CHT and RPM, and everything else is from SkyDemon (height, altitude, heading, groundspeed etc). It really is seat of your pants basic/uncomplicated flying. Not sure what you mean by physical limits of controls??
Thanks for the video. Are you happy the Black Bull is giving you enough power for the Nine wing? I have a Black Bull on a Dragonfly with Combat wing and tossing up if I should just put a Nine wing on it...currently cruises at 38 knots (43 mph) at around 5800 rpm and 5.5 litre/hour. Buying a Nine/ANT with more powerful Polini/Cosmos engine is a lot more expensive here in Australia (~$40K) .
My Bkackbull will spin at around 6200rpm in the cruise at 50mph and burn less than 6l per hour so is certainly not being stressed when cruising. The only area where a bigger engine would be beneficial is in the climb. I am getting 6-700 fpm which is adequate. I am perfectly happy flying the NiNE with my BlackBull. However as and when it reaches the end of its life, I may fit something with a bit more power. 👍
Very nice... glad to see how well you're doing. Lovely flying...I just have a couple of questions: Are you still flying on the "slow" hang point? How does this compare with the Fox... we know it's a lot faster, but how does set-up compare, roll rate and effort, and any observations you might have. Thanks.
Yes I’m flying the NiNE wing on the rear hang point. I have a feeling the mid hang point would mean my engine would be working quite hard. Set up time is comparable to the 13TL wing. The only part which does at time is fitting the wing tips. The NiNE has a much lighter feel than the 13TL. It’s almost like jumping into a car with power steering for the first time.
Seems like Darley Moor is the Hub of Sub70/SSDR Flexwing Videos ;-) I always enjoy watching yours & Giles's videos as they are both informative & entertaining. The point you make about Stall Speed being 26mph (22.593 kts) is informative but you might be confusing some of your RUclips audience by mentioning that at that point in time you are doing 18mph over the ground. ( Most Newbies won't understand Airspeed vs Groundspeed ) I also think you might be confusing some of your RUclips audience by mentioning that at some point in that video you were doing 102mph ( Most Newbies won't understand Airspeed vs Groundspeed ) I can only assume you mean a Groundspeed of 102mph because I believe the VNE or Maximum Airspeed allowed with the Nine Wing is 87mph (* I am happy to be corrected on the VNE Data * ) Just to highlight the Easy to Confuse Groundspeed vs Airspeed information : At the point you mention 18mph over the ground I am guessing you had approx 8mph of a headwind whilst having a 26mph Airspeed? so if you were flying at 26mph Airspeed in the opposite direction you would have had a 34mph Groundspeed ;-) Equally if you were flying into a 26mph headwind with a 26mph Airspeed you would have a Zero (0 mph) Groundspeed, so if you were flying at 26mph Airspeed in the opposite direction you would have had a 52mph Groundspeed ;-)
Hi Peter. Darley moor certainly does have more than its fair share of sub 70 @ SSDR flexwings. The hangar is full of them! The point you make about airspeed vs groundspeed is a fair one. It's always difficult to know where to pitch these videos as there will be a range of viewers from complete newbies to veteran pilots with 1000's of hours under their belt. It's quite the balancing act giving enough information to inform the newbie without coming across as teaching the more experienced how to suck eggs. I must admit, I do sometimes take it for granted that viewers will know what i'm talking about so thank you for the feedback. 👍
@@paulieb796 I think the reason Darley Moor has more than it's fair fair share of sub 70 & SSDR flexwings is because Mark Hilton has become so supportive of Sub 70 & the Grand Tours Program is a great way to help Newbies into Sub70/SSDR Touring. The point I made about Airspeed vs Groundspeed wasn't a criticism on how you portrayed it in the video content, it was more to highlight that it is indeed hard to pitch something to both the Newbies & the Veteran Pilots. You actually put a good balance into your videos which is both informative & holds the interest of your viewers but I would hate to think that the 18mph figure that was Groundspeed got misconstrued by a Newbie & they then tried to fly at 18mph Airspeed on a Nil Wind Day. I think you pitch your videos extremely well & it doesn't matter whether the viewer is a Newbie or a Veteran Pilot I think there is lots of informative content that all can learn something from the video. The Newbie will be learning everything from the videos & the Veterans will be getting a 'good refresher' of stuff they have either forgotten or become complacent about ;-) I class myself as a Veteran GA Pilot in terms of Piloting Experience & Advanced Years who is a tad complacent, but I would class myself as a Newbie Sub70 Flexwing Pilot in terms of Piloting Experience & lack of Flexwing flying hours. ( I have some pretty impressive GA flights under my belt that whilst challenging were not unsurmountable, but I would certainly find them unsurmountable to complete with a Flexwing, yet others just make flights like that look easy ) To put a bit of clarity to that last paragraph: Once Airborne in a Flexwing I could fly the length & breadth of the UK without any problems because I would have time to rectify any minor control inputs, but in the Take Off & Landing stages it all happens so fast & I would despite my GA Experience possibly instinctly put in the wrong control input at the most crucial time (been there,done that !!! ) so me watching yours & Giles's videos does go a long way to getting the " Reverse Control " ingrained into what little grey matter I have left. Keep up the Great Video Content because I am learning lots from watching your videos ;-) I think the minute you believe that you "know it all" is the time that you actually "know so little"
I guess you could fly a NiNE as your first wing after suitable training. It isn’t so much the speed of the wing that could catch you out but rather that it will go exactly where you point it without a great deal of pitch stability to try and return itself to straight and level flight. 👍
Just wondering what does a full stall look like and how does the wing behave? I’ve noticed that almost all videos on flex wings bring the wing right up to the very edge of the stall. But never hold it there until a full stall develops.
Hi there. Believe it or not, that is the full stall. It is such a benign gentle event that you barely feel it from the pilot seat and is hardly noticeable on film. It is just a very gentle nod of the wing and flying speed is regained almost immediately . No violent pitch downward or wing drop. It can be provoked into a more noticeable stall by gaining some speed first then pitching up more aggressively. I'll try and remember to demonstrate this next time I go flying with the cameras rolling. 👍
@@paulieb796 That’s awesome! I thought you guys were holding back on showing a full stall. But that’s it?! Your videos along with Giles and a few other are helping me to finalize my decision to pursue the flex-wing instead of a 3 axis ultralight. I think you guys are doing a great job at promoting this type of flying! Keep ‘em coming!!
Another excellent video Paul. Definitely instructor material if ever you plan on going that route. Lots of variety in your video. Looking forward to your cost one. Now on the list for my second hip. Hopefully around August. I could be flying by September. I do a few videos a week if you want to follow my journey
Thanks Simon. Not sure if I’m looking forward to adding up all the costs. I’m sure it will be more than I remember. It will certainly be more than I told Mrs B so I’ll be in trouble if she sees it!! 👍
Your video production quality just gets better and better!
Thank you. I’m still learning but it is getting a bit easier and quicker. 👍
I love your excellent and informative videos Paul, great work! Thank you. Cheers, Max
Thanks Max. Glad you enjoyed it.
The problem with trying to nullify the wind is that the head wind works against you longer than the tail wind is working for you. Love your Nine! I'm green with envy.
That's a great explanation.
Dam. I wish I’d said that! Such a simple way of explaining it. I’ll remember that for future use. 👍
These videos are fantastic. A friend and I flew model aircraft for years, he recently mentioned that he wanted to learn to fly. The inner-accountant in me immediately said, oh you’ll get through the training ok but the upkeep is expensive, have you thought about a microlight or PPG? So fast forward a few weeks of binge watching your and Giles’ videos and we’re about to book our first experience day at Balado.
Awesome. I’ve not made it to Balado (yet) but Giles tells me they are fantastically enthusiastic bunch of guys up there. Enjoy the experience and lets us know how you get on. 👍👍
@@paulieb796 we had our first experience today, but because we were keen in potentially taking lessons, we got chucked in at the deep end and sat upfront. It was awesome, although I didn’t quite appreciate the angle of attack on takeoff and thought to myself, WTF have I signed up for. But minutes later after doing some 15 then 30 degree turns, ascending and descending, I soon settled into it. Apparently I covered parts of lessons 4 through 6.
Such magnificent aircraft should be all electric . Enjoy your videos very much.
Thankyou. I think in time, we will be flying electric. 👍
Looks like a lot of fun! I’m very interested in videos about the detailed costs to get into flex wing flying including often overlooked items such as clothing and relatively minor accessories which can really add up.
I almost don’t want to add it all up. I hope Mrs B doesn’t watch that one. She’ll be dragging me straight to IKEA!!
Thanks for the thrown in maths lesson Paul. Enjoyed watching. The steep turns looked great fun as did that first attempt at landing. Keep up the good work. Stay safe. K
Those steep turns are why motorcyclists love flexwings. It’s the same sensation as tipping a bike into a bend. You’d love it mate. I know a very good school for your training. 😉
As always with your videos I enjoyed this. Good content, clearly explained and presented and well edited. Basically all boxes ticked! Catch you at Popham me old mucker. 👍😁
Thanks Dan. See you at Popham. 👍👍
Nice Video and content Paul, never get bored with the views. Looking forward to getting my diff training done. Fair old turn of speed. 👍👍👍😎
It’s an absolute missile if you want it to be, or it can crawl along at 26mph. I love it. 👍
Hi again. Great video. I always enjoy watching it.👍
Thank you. This one was a lot of fun to make.
An enjoyable watch thanks pb looking forward to the how much it costs video 👍
Thank you. Not sure I'm looking forward to making that video. The final figure is bound to be more than I remember and if Mrs B sees it, I'll be in trouble!! 🤔
Enjoyed that mate. Great video.
Eyup mate. The weather is improving. You need to get back to DM. 👍
Great video. As someone currently learning, I'm keen to see your video on costs.
Thank You. It's on my list of videos to make.
Great informational video!
Thank you
Great video Paul! Kept me on edge the whole time. Just a few questions...
- what do you do with crosswinds? Can you trim the aircraft?
- do you have to be careful about the physical limits of the controls? We have to be careful in the R22, especially with weight & balance
- what sort of gauges have you got to look at?
Hi Fred. As we don't have any yaw control, the approach to a crosswind landing is to fly at a higher than normal approach speed to reduce the drift angle and ensure we land on the rear wheels first which will allow the trike unit to align with the runway centre line, before allowing the nose wheel to touchdown. In terms of gauges, I don't really have much! I have a gauge which gives me basic engine CHT and RPM, and everything else is from SkyDemon (height, altitude, heading, groundspeed etc). It really is seat of your pants basic/uncomplicated flying. Not sure what you mean by physical limits of controls??
Thanks for the video. Are you happy the Black Bull is giving you enough power for the Nine wing?
I have a Black Bull on a Dragonfly with Combat wing and tossing up if I should just put a Nine wing on it...currently cruises at 38 knots (43 mph) at around 5800 rpm and 5.5 litre/hour.
Buying a Nine/ANT with more powerful Polini/Cosmos engine is a lot more expensive here in Australia (~$40K) .
My Bkackbull will spin at around 6200rpm in the cruise at 50mph and burn less than 6l per hour so is certainly not being stressed when cruising. The only area where a bigger engine would be beneficial is in the climb. I am getting 6-700 fpm which is adequate. I am perfectly happy flying the NiNE with my BlackBull. However as and when it reaches the end of its life, I may fit something with a bit more power. 👍
Very nice... glad to see how well you're doing. Lovely flying...I just have a couple of questions: Are you still flying on the "slow" hang point? How does this compare with the Fox... we know it's a lot faster, but how does set-up compare, roll rate and effort, and any observations you might have. Thanks.
Yes I’m flying the NiNE wing on the rear hang point. I have a feeling the mid hang point would mean my engine would be working quite hard. Set up time is comparable to the 13TL wing. The only part which does at time is fitting the wing tips. The NiNE has a much lighter feel than the 13TL. It’s almost like jumping into a car with power steering for the first time.
Seems like Darley Moor is the Hub of Sub70/SSDR Flexwing Videos ;-) I always enjoy watching yours & Giles's videos as they are both informative & entertaining. The point you make about Stall Speed being 26mph (22.593 kts) is informative but you might be confusing some of your RUclips audience by mentioning that at that point in time you are doing 18mph over the ground. ( Most Newbies won't understand Airspeed vs Groundspeed )
I also think you might be confusing some of your RUclips audience by mentioning that at some point in that video you were doing 102mph ( Most Newbies won't understand Airspeed vs Groundspeed )
I can only assume you mean a Groundspeed of 102mph because I believe the VNE or Maximum Airspeed allowed with the Nine Wing is 87mph (* I am happy to be corrected on the VNE Data * )
Just to highlight the Easy to Confuse Groundspeed vs Airspeed information : At the point you mention 18mph over the ground I am guessing you had approx 8mph of a headwind whilst having a 26mph Airspeed? so if you were flying at 26mph Airspeed in the opposite direction you would have had a 34mph Groundspeed ;-)
Equally if you were flying into a 26mph headwind with a 26mph Airspeed you would have a Zero (0 mph) Groundspeed, so if you were flying at 26mph Airspeed in the opposite direction you would have had a 52mph Groundspeed ;-)
Hi Peter. Darley moor certainly does have more than its fair share of sub 70 @ SSDR flexwings. The hangar is full of them! The point you make about airspeed vs groundspeed is a fair one. It's always difficult to know where to pitch these videos as there will be a range of viewers from complete newbies to veteran pilots with 1000's of hours under their belt. It's quite the balancing act giving enough information to inform the newbie without coming across as teaching the more experienced how to suck eggs. I must admit, I do sometimes take it for granted that viewers will know what i'm talking about so thank you for the feedback. 👍
@@paulieb796 I think the reason Darley Moor has more than it's fair fair share of sub 70 & SSDR flexwings is because Mark Hilton has become so supportive of Sub 70 & the Grand Tours Program is a great way to help Newbies into Sub70/SSDR Touring.
The point I made about Airspeed vs Groundspeed wasn't a criticism on how you portrayed it in the video content, it was more to highlight that it is indeed hard to pitch something to both the Newbies & the Veteran Pilots. You actually put a good balance into your videos which is both informative & holds the interest of your viewers but I would hate to think that the 18mph figure that was Groundspeed got misconstrued by a Newbie & they then tried to fly at 18mph Airspeed on a Nil Wind Day.
I think you pitch your videos extremely well & it doesn't matter whether the viewer is a Newbie or a Veteran Pilot I think there is lots of informative content that all can learn something from the video. The Newbie will be learning everything from the videos & the Veterans will be getting a 'good refresher' of stuff they have either forgotten or become complacent about ;-)
I class myself as a Veteran GA Pilot in terms of Piloting Experience & Advanced Years who is a tad complacent, but I would class myself as a Newbie Sub70 Flexwing Pilot in terms of Piloting Experience & lack of Flexwing flying hours. ( I have some pretty impressive GA flights under my belt that whilst challenging were not unsurmountable, but I would certainly find them unsurmountable to complete with a Flexwing, yet others just make flights like that look easy )
To put a bit of clarity to that last paragraph: Once Airborne in a Flexwing I could fly the length & breadth of the UK without any problems because I would have time to rectify any minor control inputs, but in the Take Off & Landing stages it all happens so fast & I would despite my GA Experience possibly instinctly put in the wrong control input at the most crucial time (been there,done that !!! ) so me watching yours & Giles's videos does go a long way to getting the " Reverse Control " ingrained into what little grey matter I have left.
Keep up the Great Video Content because I am learning lots from watching your videos ;-) I think the minute you believe that you "know it all" is the time that you actually "know so little"
Everyone has one moment of fame in their life. I guess that was mine :-D
You raised a very valid point that was worth sharing. Thank you. 👍
You need the Nine windscreen
I’m bringing my shopping list to Popham. See you there. 👍
Could the Nine wing be someone’s first after training? If you learn on a fastest tandem trike anyway then perhaps this ok? Thanks for video.
I guess you could fly a NiNE as your first wing after suitable training. It isn’t so much the speed of the wing that could catch you out but rather that it will go exactly where you point it without a great deal of pitch stability to try and return itself to straight and level flight. 👍
Hi bud. Is that the icaro helmet you use, whats it like. Have you tried others? Thanks
It’s an Icaro Solar X helmet. I haven’t tried any others but I am very happy with it. Very comfortable. 👍
Just wondering what does a full stall look like and how does the wing behave?
I’ve noticed that almost all videos on flex wings bring the wing right up to the very edge of the stall. But never hold it there until a full stall develops.
Hi there. Believe it or not, that is the full stall. It is such a benign gentle event that you barely feel it from the pilot seat and is hardly noticeable on film. It is just a very gentle nod of the wing and flying speed is regained almost immediately . No violent pitch downward or wing drop. It can be provoked into a more noticeable stall by gaining some speed first then pitching up more aggressively. I'll try and remember to demonstrate this next time I go flying with the cameras rolling. 👍
@@paulieb796
That’s awesome!
I thought you guys were holding back on showing a full stall.
But that’s it?!
Your videos along with Giles and a few other are helping me to finalize my decision to pursue the flex-wing instead of a 3 axis ultralight.
I think you guys are doing a great job at promoting this type of flying!
Keep ‘em coming!!
Another excellent video Paul. Definitely instructor material if ever you plan on going that route. Lots of variety in your video. Looking forward to your cost one.
Now on the list for my second hip. Hopefully around August. I could be flying by September.
I do a few videos a week if you want to follow my journey
Thanks Simon. Not sure if I’m looking forward to adding up all the costs. I’m sure it will be more than I remember. It will certainly be more than I told Mrs B so I’ll be in trouble if she sees it!! 👍
How much? ❤
You can’t put a price on happiness.
I am lucky enough to be retired in Thailand with nothing to do. 🤔
Lucky you. I've still got a few years to go before I can hang my work boots up.
@@paulieb796 It might be interesting to compare price and procedure between the 2 countries.
Perhaps Thailand needs more instructors 😉😄
So my figure of 50mph was pretty close then...😅, nice "aborted" landing my good man😊.
50mph was bang on. They don’t half get you places quickly don’t they?