Sony seems to love keeping their toe in the door (to keep their rights to Spiderman) while the audience tries to slam it shut. "How many times do we need to teach you a lesson old man?"
"he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died" is the new "THIS IS KATANA. SHES GOT MY BACK. I ADVISE NOT GETTING KILLED BY HER, HER SWORD TRAPS THE SOULS OF ITS VICTIMS".
"People die if they are killed...but they double die if they are killed by Katana and her sword...he was in the Amazon with my mom when she had his back just before she died...because she was killed."
This movie seems to exist for the literal sole purpose of setting something up that will never happen and leeching off the pointless brand recognition of the Parker family.
I think the original cut was filled with spider-man references and the executives saw it and was like “”…..this is 💩 we can’t have the spider-man name on this 💩 it will damage the brand, cut everything linked to Spider-man now””
Honestly, I wouldn't call this ghoulish. It didn't CGI dead actors, some without the consent of their families. It's bad, but it's not amoral and disgusting like The Flash.
Wasn't Morbius looking for some miracle cure for a made-up disease which he found in the jungle and also gave him superpowers? Isn't that what happens to Kraven too?
The best part of all of this is the fact that some of the actresses tagged Marvel and not Sony in their announcements, which tells me they didn’t know what they were getting into lol
I've heard that Sony was purposely obfuscating things for the actors, even on set, and essentially telling them that this was part of Marvel. Neither Dakota Johnson nor Sidney Sweeney seem to know anything about the Marvel (or Sony) movies, so I think they may have not realized that there was this weird relationship in the first place (and either their agents didn't know, or just didn't care). There has been talk of Marvel possibly suing Sony for brand confusion and trying to get the full rights - not just for how they obfuscated things for the actors, but also for the audience. There have been at least several times where Sony was trying to advertise their movies as being part of the Marvel universe, and Marvel basically sent cease-and-desist letters to make Sony stop doing that. If Marvel sues, people would get to see all the texts and emails between Sony people about this relationship, and I'm sure that'll be pretty juicy. And the reason why the same writers of Morbius were able to write this was because Morbius hadn't come out yet by the time they landed this movie as well. And the 2 main writers had previously written a Dracula movie script that had been on Hollywood's blacklist for a while, and they basically just got more opportunities because people liked that one script.
Yeah they probably did think they were getting into the MCU, but... so what? Let's not pretend this was some kind of genius plot to fool a bunch of prestigious actors in to doing a dud movie that is so far beneath their talents and abilities. They're all shit-tier actors who had nothing else to do, and they all got paid much more than they're worth.
@@othertalk3313 Quite frankly, I don't care about their acting abilities in this situation - because Sony wasn't just lying to the actors. Sony also keeps trying to trick the audience into thinking their movies are part of the MCU, and that's weird. They deserve to be called out.
The film would have worked better if Simms was just after Mary Parker because Peter Parker was destined to bring him down. Basically Terminator: Spider-Man edition. That would have saved wasting the young actresses and other characters. And it would have made Uncle Ben's presence have an actual point.
Plus explain how Peter's parents (or just mom if his dad isn't in the picture in this version) died. It's schlocky and hacky, but better that than inconsequential and boring.
Or Madame Web is supposed to help give the spider-women their powers, but one of them has been imprisoned by Simms, since he wants to be the only one with powers. As sort of happens in the comics.
That was rumored to be the storyline as it was being filmed. My theory is they added the three Spider-Women in an attempt to promote a "Girl Power" element.
In regards to the fake Pepsi can; I can’t be too specific, but my friend’s girl works at a company specializing in post-production advertisement. Basically they film a green screen can and sell the space after the fact. The idea is that soon they’ll be able to actually adjust adverts in something that’s already aired on streaming, like it could premiere as Pepsi but after the contract expires they could hypothetically edit the can to promote the highest bidder.
At this point, Sony would probably profit more from making purposely bad films (or parodies) instead of whatever the hell they think they’re doing with these IPs.
Ironically I dont think that people understand...that they are currently doing this already...haha.. just the profit they are seeking is not money...but I think what results from these horrible IPs...
What they need to do is just stop trying to make live-action Spider-Man spinoffs without Spider-Man in it and lean into Spider-Verse. Give the animation studio more money and hire more animators so that the animators that are already there can be paid more and not have to work as hard. It's the only thing they do without Marvel Studios that everyone actually likes.
@@einootsporkThat would arguably be the worst-case scenario. Imagine these clueless execs forcing the cheapest writers/directors they can get to pump out countless movies tainting the Spider-Verse franchise.
The Pepsi cola sign is a landmark in Queens NY. They moved the sign to its pre-2003 location but it’s basically like someone in a movie being killed by the Hollywood sign.
The mother was told her baby had Myasthenia gravis "Common for ages 50 and older" Which by the way cannot be diagnosed before birth because its a autoimmune disorder not a genetic condition
Can you believe that we are so blessed that Sony is giving us not one, but TWO more off-brand Spiderman movies this year! Kraven and Venom 3 are real movies that exist and are going to be watchable for people with eyeballs and two hours of extra time to waste on absolutely nothing of value. It is rare, but in Hollywood sometimes the stars align and a studio can pull off a real hat trick and sh!t the bed 3 or more times in the same year. Unfortunately this is not a new record because DC released Shazam 2, Flash, Blue Beetle, and Aquaman last year. I am confident that if Sony keeps at it they can achieve this elusive goal. Keep up the great terrible work Sony!
SHOCKING that they think 'Scandalous' by Mis-Teeq came out in 2018 when it was on the soundtrack to 'Catwoman', and not just any scene, the weird flirty basketball scene.
I love it when you can tell the editor has recently been watching a particular completely unrelated show when there's multiple small clips from it sprinkled across the video. I hope you're enjoying Succession, Reyes.
She sees the future like that guy from Inhumans, who can calculate innumerable fight probabilities but then slips on some loose dirt, hits his head and loses his powers
it all goes into making the character comic book accurate...showing her young and a few decades in the past of current MCU/Sony timelines, so that she can be the old lady in the chair in present time
I'd say that Sony's entire Spider-Man Without Spider-Man Cinematic Universe was a mug's game from start, but I guess "Venom" did well enough as camp to convince them there was some kind of appeal here. The weird thing is that the Spider-Verse movies coming out of their animation unit have both been awesome, but those movies HAVE SPIDER-MANS IN THEM. They have ALL the Spider-Mans.
What’s funny about the Spiderverse movies (probably not related but maybe a “fun fact”) is that the first spiderverse, even though it was fantastic, didn’t do so well at the box office because of the previous movie “emoji” The second spiderverse did way better because after the first spiderverse got released, word got around about how great it really is.
@@Grumpyskater One of the directors tweeted after the first one came out that "we seem to have made a word-of-mouth Spider-Man movie", which is a thing that didn't seem like it was logically possible. Its box office wasn't great but I recall it gathered cult hit status in streaming.
The problem with Sony is Avi Arad. He's been sabotaging talented directors and writers since Spiderman 3. With producer based interference. When you have sam Rami and Mark Webb making bad films, ordinairy film makers don't stand a chance. Thank goodness the animated division doesn't answer to him so we still have the spider-verse movies to enjoy.
@@Elite-0Zero I stand corrected. Although given his live action record, I'm going to assume the long lead times still help insulate animation from producer interference.
An Arkham movie, where Penguin or Two face or some crew is doing a bank heist or some kind of elaborate crime. Pan from the crime to the sky, and the bat symbol is in the sky. The Batman is never shown in the beginning but stalks the crew and picks them off one by one like the Alien movie. That would be a great superhero/horror movie
Make it scarecrow and have him detonate the fear toxin in hopes of it stopping batman, only for it to make batman scarier to the remaining criminals(and therefore, for the remainder of the movie)
IIRC the Stargate radio remix of Mis-Teeq's Scandalous is the original UK version, released in March 2003. The US single remix was released in June 2004.
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing VENOM 3) MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB) And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT AVI ARAD ruined everything again, just like he ruined TASM series And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB
@@devstruction98 what's insane about WB is that they are DC !!! They hold all the rights to their own creations , they have great comic writers and fantastic writers for the animated series, movies and TV shows and they still don't make a good live action movie!!!!! All WB has/had to do was do exactly what's in the animated movies and it would be a hit.
Venom was alright and Venom2 was a downgrade in quality but its still fine. I personally think those two movies are overhated. They're not great, thats 100% true, but at least they're enjoyable and actually watchable unlike the other ones on this list lol.
After seeing the movie, it's portrayal of the villain, the origins, the lack of the costumes, and very little connections to the character and comics, it makes me ask "What was the point of calling it "Madame Web"?" Aside from a few vague references to the Spider-Man franchise and the character names, there's little about this movie that actually relates to the original comics. Did they think that people were clambering for a movie about Madame Web? Would fans of the comics even turn up to see this film simply because it was called "Madame Web" despite barely replicating the character they loved was replicated on the big screen? Maybe the movie could've been a lot better if it was it's own supernatural thriller about a girl who can see the future and is chased by a serial killer. I feel you could've done more original and creative concepts than shoehorning in Uncle Ben because they had to. They could've just called this movie "The Clairvoyant" or something like that, and I can guarantee you it wouldn't have been this laughably bad and Dakota Johnson firing her agent. Hell, The Matrix (1999) is a more accurate Madame Web adaptation than this. So let me say this to movie studios, if you can't replicate the character you're adapting into a movie: CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE!!!! Branding something that's an adaptation of the comics may backfire and ruin the original series and fanbase. Movies like Spawn, Catwoman, and Steel killed their legacies to the public eye for a number of years. That's probably why Spawn's hype suddenly died after 1997 because of one bad movie and why we haven't seen him in a while. It does nothing but hurt the property in the long run. It will make a misconception from casual viewers who don't know the characters, and just anger those who are familiar. The Incredibles was basically an animated Fantastic Four movie, Darkman was basically The Shadow, RoboCop was basically an R-rater Iron Man movie, Chronicles was basically X-Men, and Brightburn was basically Superman. But guess what? They weren't branded as "Fantastic Four", "The Shadow", "Iron Man", "X-Men", and "Superman"! And the characters don't share the names of what they were inspired by. They were "adaptations-in-spirit" only, and were hell of a lot better received than if they were actual adaptations. I just would've rather this movie be an homage in-spirit rather than a title.
A theory: JJJ is the only one that remembers Mr Jump. Maybe he lost someone in the car chase. And that's why JJJ HAAAAATES Spider-Man, because he remembers.
My favorite part of this is that Cassie is a Paramedic, but clearly has no qualms stealing several Vehicles. She steals a Taxi cab. She drives the cab to the airport, presumably parks it in long term parking since she tells Uncle Ben she will only be gone a week. She goes to Peru for some exposition scenes, then drives it back to Uncle Ben's house to see if by chance the young ladies she is supposed to be protecting are still there. Even though she has abandoned them for a second time. Then she steals an Ambulance while the crew is in the middle of a rescue!!! I am glad I got to see this movie because every movie from now on will at least seem like a decent film compared to this.
I watched a 40 minute review on a movie I'm never going to watch being compared to other movies I haven't seen and will never watch. You guys did a great job making some form of entertainment out of this at least.
Honestly, the best thing about this film is the fine amount of ammo it has given my favorite movie reviewers to completely trash this thing into oblivion. Bless'em~
The fake can was probably related to them getting scammed into thinking it was an MCU movie. The MCU is generally filmed in Georgia, and we'd never allow Pepsi in a movie of ours.
@@tomimpalathe worst part imo is that they technically are since everything is potentially canon via the multiverse. So now when Marvel inevitably wants to reference Spider people for like Secret Wars or whatever these are gonna be among the variants they pull from. That’s so upsetting. Sony is doing so much damage outside of Tom Holland’s Peter sometimes and Miles’ trilogy that won’t be a trilogy
@@nailinthefashionAfter the whole fiasco the MCU has had with their own recent movies and now finally going back to quality over quantity (The Marvels really made them wake up thank goodness), I really doubt Kevin will take stuff from the sonyverse outside Venom (which lets not forget, he left a little bit of himself behind in the MCU already). Mayyybe they bring some Spiderverse characters (hell yeah) but thats not the sonyverse, thats a whole separate thing on its own (thank fkn God for that lol)
I love you bring out the mama Webb doc appointment scene because she says," you never told me I was sick." When? When would she have told you you were sick? She died pushing you out.
I think originally Cassie must have been older when the mum died, and then they rewrote/ reshot it to her dying in childbirth? Most of the stuff she says about her mother doesn't really make sense if she never met her
19:17 As someone who was a kid around this time period, I don't remember people commonly having phones on them until 2005-2006, so the WOAH reaction makes a little sense.
This could've been a Final Destination movie where instead of the people dying from accidents, it was a serial killer. Just take out all spider-man references and have Tony Todd make a cameo to have a monologue about death.
I really have to praise the editors cutting to random clips of people saying the words as the guys are saying them, or emoting through clips. Seriously so appreciated.
I feel like Ezekiel had webs in an earlier cut, but it was removed because they realized the spider bite traditionally doesn’t give webs. My proof for this is that whenever he jumps it quickly cuts away right as he jump. I swear when he’s fighting the cops in the subway he swings into the frame.
Batgirl was also canned because the test audience HATED the movie. So likely it was just a very bad flick. There was probably nothing lost. Count your blessings and watch the Dark Knight again
@@NobuhikuObayashi...have you been paying attention to what Warner have been canning and deleting over the last two years? Not really an indicator of quality.
@@MrJimheerenso you mean to tell me; batgirl is reported to have test audience HATE it right? Did we hear that for Madame Web…was there even a test screening done by Sony? If so, that’s insane because it means some of our shitty population enjoyed this garbage. If there were no test screenings, how is that? There’s a lot of shadiness is how a movie as bad as Madame Web gets released. Venom and Morbius make sense because of having Tom Hardy and then Jared Leto(even though having Leto is not a great thing lol.) but, Madame Web has nothing and is nothing.
@@thelastsith2706 Batgirl was produced by WB not Sony two different companies. And all I know is that the Batgirl movie was so hated by test audiences that it was a major reason why the movie was canned.
Scandalous by Mis-Teeq , even the remix you mentioned did indeed come out in 2003. It was made popular by the Halle Berry Catwoman movie promotions and is a guilty pleasure song with my and one of my friends
I like how Madame Web was luring Evil Spiderman to the S by slowly backinh up and looking at it but the Evil Spiderman never questioned it and kept following her
In the Pitch Meeting for "The Last Airbender," Ryan George refers to the rule of screenwriting, "Tell, don't show." It looks like the writers of this movie took this lesson to heart.
I reject their premise that everyone had a cell phone in 2003. I used the pay phone to call my mom to pick me up from sports practice, up until senior year when I had a car. The vast majority of my peers did not have one. I graduated high school in 2004 and got my first flip phone when I got to college. It did not have text message functionality. The original iPhone and first real smart phone didn't come out until 2007.
I cant get over them showing a significant portion of the main cast individually learning CPR while we sat there waiting for the plot to continue. Never seen anything like that in a movie before 🚑
As they say in Hollywood: "You have to be a very good writer, to make a bad movie". Someone said the first drafts for God of Egypt and Dracula untold were really amazing but the studio picked it apart. Maybe it was the same with Madame Web. Dakota Johnson even said multiple times „the movie is not the script I read“
_''Someone said the first drafts for God of Egypt and Dracula untold''_ - honestly, ALWAYS take those claims with a grain of salt. They're always making excuses. And isn't it just too weird that the writers for Gods of Egypt, Dracula Untold, Madame Web, Morbius, The Last Witch Hunter and Power Rangers are the same writers? You can't really justify major studio interference for ALL those movies... The common denominator is that its the same writers. They're just bad writers. All their movies at their core just have bad and bland ideas. ''You have to be a very good writer to make a bad movie'' that's not even a saying. 55% of a movie's quality comes from its writing - you can have the best _everything else_ but if writing fails,, the entire movie fails.
@@kevinsmithfan37 you seriously think this was a real attempt at filmmaking? Did you see it? It was just sloppily thrown together and dumped in theaters. The only reason to release it is the rights; otherwise it would have been better off sitting on a shelf as a tax break and sparing them the marketing costs.
@@motor-3734 WB are the only ones who can do that tax break stuff because of the merger between Discovery. Because of the take over they get given a window to write off projects as a loss. Sony don't have that luxury. Again whenever sony make a spiderverse movie the rights reset from the time of release. If they release Madame web now the rights just reset right. Well the rights will reset again in a few months with Kraven and again with venom 3. If Madame web really was only made to hold the rights what they would have done is shelf it for 5 years and release it soon as the rights would run out.
@@motor-3734No you are giving them too much credit. They truly think these shitty movies will build a franchise. They don't need to retain a license when Spider-verse came out less than a year ago.
@@motor-3734 it's that bad because they took a writing team who has only produced terrible work with a first time feature director. A director btw that directed a GoT spin off pilot that was so bad they scrapped the show and started from scratch.
Madame Web should have kept the old lady and have her make a team of Spider Ladies after finding out a Spider Person going evil and rampant in the Multiverse. Have her being played by Jamie Lee Curtis or course. Ezekiel would be their mentor figure. Helping them out figuring out their spider powers. They would also bring in the magic totem concept from the Other comic where Ezekiel came from. The Spider Girls would get their powers from Madame Web and they would have to fight off Evil Spider Guy. Very Shazam and Black Adam situation
Ya coud 'ave been a lawyer, a plumber, a doctor! Hell your mother would have been upset but okay with you being a damn ref for the local boxing events! But a criminal? Your father is rolling in his grave!
“Ezekiel Sims gets killed by the Pee in the Pepsi sign…” there’s a sign that tells you to pee in Pepsi?! I mean, I know it doesn’t taste great, but I don’t think peeing in it will help.
It's even more dumb due to 1) Ezekiel isn't a villain in the comics. and 2) He doesn't have a costume like that, lol. It baffles me the choices made for this movie.
Been watching so long I can recognize when there's different editors. But actually I wanted to say it's going to be a decade of sundays for me in May wow. I still don't think you've done better than "Every Easter Egg in CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER" but boy howdy do I commend a decade worth of effort.
In Marvel Comics, astral projection is restricted to telepaths and magic users. It is also something that they have to learn and not just something that they can instantly do. There are also entities like the Shadow King who lives in an astral form.
Not sure if it's just me, but i found the camera work really distracting and annoying in Madam Web. I don't normally notice that sort of thing, but perhaps it's because the film was so bad, it really stood out to me how often the camera would just be wobbling around, as if the camera man was drunk, and then there was all the times when they seemed to be trying to give that scene in Taken a run for the most number of cuts in the shortest time.
“Writers can write a good script and it can get noted to death.” BIG MF’N FACTS. As someone who’s in Hollywood, actively trying to break in and living vicariously through my more successful friends 😅 this is absolutely something that I see time and time again. Great scripts get notes from everyone, and they’re often not that great and stray from the writers’ original intent. It’s so disheartening when you see comments or hear certain podcasters blast “talentless” writers when folks truly have no idea what scripts go through before a single frame is shot or role is cast. So, thanks for sticking up for the writers at the start. 🙏🏾
Passively watched this on streaming and I noticed that there’s no plot. Characters are just saying non-sequential things to each other and some stunts happen. For example, when they’re building up a “tense” scene and a train passenger randomly asks “Do you know where this train is going?”. Sir, you’re telling me you got on a random Long Island railroad train and you have no idea where you’re going? I’m convinced the majority of the dialog is there to have enough sonic presence to fill the runtime
I like to believe that Madame Webb at the end isn't paralyzed but that she is being dramatic about being blind and how she wouldn't want to walk into stuff... so, she just sits for now on and has a wheelchair on hand when she needs to move about. That's my head cannon 😅 @28:16
Scandalous by Mystique was also in Catwoman in the scene she’s debuting her amazing super useful costume. Not a good sign when you share a soundtrack song with Catwoman.
I feel like Ezekiel Sims as the villain is a werid choice as in the comics he was a ally of Peter. What they should have done is have Kraven the Hunter as the villain.
Like, Dakota Johnson comes across as a non-actress. She doesn't act well in the movie, and in interviews, she's either clueless, or aloof. But the most surprising thing is that they cast Sydney Sweeney as a frumpy nerd chick.
The splitting into 3 thing would vaguely make sense if it's an allusion to the 3 fates (Greek and other mythologies), but I'm assuming that there is no explanation for that.
Without watching the movie, this wouldve been my pitch: Madame web origin same, but after its pretty much final destination sequel but with ezekial replaces death. As the movie goes on the women get powers, and madame web becomes ultra instinct until they overpower him and it ends like death proof on the side of the road and they continuously punch him to death.
I still love that umbrella reveal shot in the Amazon sequence. "Oh my! Ezekiel Sims was behind that umbrella the whole time!" - probably an actual line in the movie
I know its not the same universe but I like to think that when her mom was search the jungle for spiders to cure disease they were like 20 minutes away from Dr. Michael Morbius doing the same thing but with Bats.
Did the over the over-the-shoulder camera shots when they smash zoom into people having mildly normal conversation get very distracting for everyone else as well
Just as another clue to the time period, the NY license plate on the car she drowns in is the version that was issued first in 2001, then phased out starting in 2010.
Nah man. I live in the middle of nowhere, Canada. We didn't even have coverage in my whole city in 2003, and my family is squarely lower middle class, and we had a cellphone in 2002. They weren't ubiquitous, but certainly no one was writing home about the time they saw a cell phone
@@somerandoladnow I'm thinking on that last Kraven trailer- which scene is going to be from the climax, when he's doing his truck nose biting, or what?
teens with cell phones in 2003? mostly only if they were dealers, at least where I lived. it was more towards 2006, 2007, 2008 that most people had a phone (and still not everyone)
Nah here in the UK we all had phones in school in 2001/2002. My family didn't even have much money but I still had a phone, was a Sony Ericsson coca cola phone haha
If you actually listen, they explain how it takes real talent to be paid for any script in Hollywood, given the levels of competition. A movie isn’t made by the writers. Studios are especially to blame as they will turn an amazing script into hot garbage. Dolts on the internet that know nothing of the writing process just want to list the movies these writers were involved with, and feel like they are saying something witty.
@@Psilocybin77 so the multiple movies they’ve written that were made by at least 3 different studios that all just happened to be extremely uniquely shit were done so by the separate studios? Yea I’m not buying that. And trust me talent is definitely not necessary to be paid in Hollywood.
Very true that studios change a lot of the vision but also, sometimes, you can just write a bad script. If your track record is exclusively bad movies…
Sony needs to stop wasting Ma-damn time.
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me ten times shame on me.
Sony seems to love keeping their toe in the door (to keep their rights to Spiderman) while the audience tries to slam it shut. "How many times do we need to teach you a lesson old man?"
It’s superhero movies in general. They haven’t made a great film in a decade. They haven’t made a good one in 5 years.
@@JayG724no way home? A pretty good banger of a superhero film
Who aside from RUclipsrs actually watched this movie tho lmao
He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was listening to The Weekly Planet, right before she laughed.
Died. From war crimes.
@@isaacvaildied, from too much laughing
I like the part when she said "It's Madame Webbin time" and then she Madame laughed all over the spider than died....Oscar worthy performance
HAHAHAHAH! MEMES! HAHAHAHA! THE SAME JOKE OVER AND OVER FOR MONTHS! HAHAHAHA!
This endless shit is as bad as the films themselves.
@@Jayfive276At least the jokes are more original than whatever Sony spumm trite they make
"he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died" is the new "THIS IS KATANA. SHES GOT MY BACK. I ADVISE NOT GETTING KILLED BY HER, HER SWORD TRAPS THE SOULS OF ITS VICTIMS".
As a run-on sentence, Madam Web's line is worse (no punctuation at all) but the Suicide Squad line is a major clunker.
Iconic 😂
Up there with Ray Palmer and his nanites
"People die if they are killed...but they double die if they are killed by Katana and her sword...he was in the Amazon with my mom when she had his back just before she died...because she was killed."
We all laugh at the Katana line, but I genuinely love the delivery of it lol
This movie seems to exist for the literal sole purpose of setting something up that will never happen and leeching off the pointless brand recognition of the Parker family.
Didn't they only mention they were Parkers in the credits? It's never even addressed on-screen lmao they couldn't even get leeching off the name right
I think the original cut was filled with spider-man references and the executives saw it and was like “”…..this is 💩 we can’t have the spider-man name on this 💩 it will damage the brand, cut everything linked to Spider-man now””
Early favorite for "the game is on" award
Sony only has the rights to peripheral characters in the “Spiderverse” (Venom, Morbius, Madame Web)
That or for Sony to keep their Spidey license
"Madame Webb and Mr. Jump" as a title alone has a higher chance of getting me in a theater haha.
Mr Jump is such a good name for a Mr Hyde Spidey person parallel. Like a jumping spider. I’d watch that
"It's Madame-ing Time"
First name Mister, last name Jump
Uh, excuse me? That's Mister Jump and Stick to you
Mr. Jump is a man who hunts you down and forces you to read manga.
I like how everytime "it's 2003" happens there's a shot of Ben Affleck's Daredevil.
The editing made my head spin
They fixed it in post
I like how he says "its 2003" and then names arguments as to why its not (PSP release date, etc)
I remember my best friend renting Daredevil from Blockbuster, we watched it, got to the end and looked at each other and just burst out laughing
They actually did those cuts in the movie too, it's very jarring
To quote another Mr. Sunday Movies review “What a soulless and ghoulish product”
What review was that ?
@@EyedMite, Flash I think.
Honestly, I wouldn't call this ghoulish. It didn't CGI dead actors, some without the consent of their families. It's bad, but it's not amoral and disgusting like The Flash.
@@EyedMiteThe Flash
I understood that reference.
Wasn't Morbius looking for some miracle cure for a made-up disease which he found in the jungle and also gave him superpowers?
Isn't that what happens to Kraven too?
It's also what gives the Green Goblin his powers in The Amazing Spiderman 2
Seriously? Do better, SPUMM!@@chiyo-chanholocaust8143
I'm surprised they haven't cast the rock yet. Though he'll probably be in kraven
There is one plot. All the movies have to share.
In all fairness, it’s not everyday made-up diseases are found but when they are, they come from the jungle.
The best part of all of this is the fact that some of the actresses tagged Marvel and not Sony in their announcements, which tells me they didn’t know what they were getting into lol
I've heard that Sony was purposely obfuscating things for the actors, even on set, and essentially telling them that this was part of Marvel. Neither Dakota Johnson nor Sidney Sweeney seem to know anything about the Marvel (or Sony) movies, so I think they may have not realized that there was this weird relationship in the first place (and either their agents didn't know, or just didn't care).
There has been talk of Marvel possibly suing Sony for brand confusion and trying to get the full rights - not just for how they obfuscated things for the actors, but also for the audience. There have been at least several times where Sony was trying to advertise their movies as being part of the Marvel universe, and Marvel basically sent cease-and-desist letters to make Sony stop doing that. If Marvel sues, people would get to see all the texts and emails between Sony people about this relationship, and I'm sure that'll be pretty juicy.
And the reason why the same writers of Morbius were able to write this was because Morbius hadn't come out yet by the time they landed this movie as well. And the 2 main writers had previously written a Dracula movie script that had been on Hollywood's blacklist for a while, and they basically just got more opportunities because people liked that one script.
Yeah they probably did think they were getting into the MCU, but... so what? Let's not pretend this was some kind of genius plot to fool a bunch of prestigious actors in to doing a dud movie that is so far beneath their talents and abilities. They're all shit-tier actors who had nothing else to do, and they all got paid much more than they're worth.
@@othertalk3313And none have used a search engine ever apparently.
@@othertalk3313 Quite frankly, I don't care about their acting abilities in this situation - because Sony wasn't just lying to the actors. Sony also keeps trying to trick the audience into thinking their movies are part of the MCU, and that's weird. They deserve to be called out.
The film would have worked better if Simms was just after Mary Parker because Peter Parker was destined to bring him down. Basically Terminator: Spider-Man edition. That would have saved wasting the young actresses and other characters. And it would have made Uncle Ben's presence have an actual point.
Plus explain how Peter's parents (or just mom if his dad isn't in the picture in this version) died. It's schlocky and hacky, but better that than inconsequential and boring.
There were so many better movies here lol
Or Madame Web is supposed to help give the spider-women their powers, but one of them has been imprisoned by Simms, since he wants to be the only one with powers. As sort of happens in the comics.
That was rumored to be the storyline as it was being filmed. My theory is they added the three Spider-Women in an attempt to promote a "Girl Power" element.
But..... that would have meant we'd have had even more scenes with Dakota Johnson which doesn't sound like a good thing
In regards to the fake Pepsi can; I can’t be too specific, but my friend’s girl works at a company specializing in post-production advertisement. Basically they film a green screen can and sell the space after the fact.
The idea is that soon they’ll be able to actually adjust adverts in something that’s already aired on streaming, like it could premiere as Pepsi but after the contract expires they could hypothetically edit the can to promote the highest bidder.
GOD the future sucks
@@lewiscopland4568my sentiments exactly!
This is what they do in sports already, they have ad boards that can show whatever they need in whichever territory is showing the game
Now THAT is a pitched round of bidding for product placement that I want to see. 😂
Gee, aren't movies magical!
Props to this movie for teaching kids the age old lesson "when you take on the responsibility, great power will come"
Millennial manager here and no.
Every time I hear or read it like that, a little more of me dies inside
That’s how the movie says it? Absolute garbage. It’s not even the same message, lesser in fact.
Sydney Sweeney's boobies have great power to make people come
Glad they finally got it right in No Way Home. Not even Raimi Spider-man got it right
Kudos to Fidel for having to edit 40 minutes of dialogue with something like only five minutes of Madame Web footage available from the trailers
What do you mean? He was using the theatrical cut. There really wasn't much more content to show...
And Ben Affleck
"She hates sitting home alone and she hates going out" I don't know why you're confused by this. This is a kindred spirit in my mind.
That's me. Combination of social anxiety and agoraphobia 😂 thanks brain, ya fuckin bellend
You are probably like billions of other people spending your life online, depleting your brain of dopamine, and thinking you are a agoraphobic.
Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
@@Psilocybin77 any other soapboxes you'd like to stand on?
That's why I spend all my time standing right in my front doorway, I hate it slightly less.
At this point, Sony would probably profit more from making purposely bad films (or parodies) instead of whatever the hell they think they’re doing with these IPs.
Ironically I dont think that people understand...that they are currently doing this already...haha.. just the profit they are seeking is not money...but I think what results from these horrible IPs...
It wouldn't be entertaining if it was made on purpose as a bad film.
Yeah, they need to cut the production budget on these massively and just lean into the shitty, Room-style movies
What they need to do is just stop trying to make live-action Spider-Man spinoffs without Spider-Man in it and lean into Spider-Verse. Give the animation studio more money and hire more animators so that the animators that are already there can be paid more and not have to work as hard. It's the only thing they do without Marvel Studios that everyone actually likes.
@@einootsporkThat would arguably be the worst-case scenario. Imagine these clueless execs forcing the cheapest writers/directors they can get to pump out countless movies tainting the Spider-Verse franchise.
The Pepsi cola sign is a landmark in Queens NY. They moved the sign to its pre-2003 location but it’s basically like someone in a movie being killed by the Hollywood sign.
So… The Rocketeer then?
That's such an amazing detail to include in such a stupid movie
The mother was told her baby had Myasthenia gravis "Common for ages 50 and older"
Which by the way cannot be diagnosed before birth because its a autoimmune disorder not a genetic condition
So they fucked everything up
Can you believe that we are so blessed that Sony is giving us not one, but TWO more off-brand Spiderman movies this year! Kraven and Venom 3 are real movies that exist and are going to be watchable for people with eyeballs and two hours of extra time to waste on absolutely nothing of value.
It is rare, but in Hollywood sometimes the stars align and a studio can pull off a real hat trick and sh!t the bed 3 or more times in the same year. Unfortunately this is not a new record because DC released Shazam 2, Flash, Blue Beetle, and Aquaman last year. I am confident that if Sony keeps at it they can achieve this elusive goal. Keep up the great terrible work Sony!
To be fair the venom movies have been relatively good.
He was in Rome with my mom when she was watching Iron Man, right before she died
Boo.
SHOCKING that they think 'Scandalous' by Mis-Teeq came out in 2018 when it was on the soundtrack to 'Catwoman', and not just any scene, the weird flirty basketball scene.
'Iconic' ahem.
The real question is how much money did Coke pay for the Pepsi product placement in this movie?
‘GET ME PICTURES OF MR JUMP DAMMIT!’ - J Jonah Newspaper
I liked when she said, "what are we, some kind of Madame Web Squad?"
my favourite part was when villain said: 'It's none of your business' and she replies: 'I'm gonna make it MADAME business'
My favorite scene was when Cassie was cleaning up some dust and spider webs and one of the girls said ‘Madame Web over here….’
I liked it when she said, "it's webbin' time!"
@@ramsoomairAnd webbed all over everything.
Ur all nerds
I love it when you can tell the editor has recently been watching a particular completely unrelated show when there's multiple small clips from it sprinkled across the video. I hope you're enjoying Succession, Reyes.
“Wasn’t there just a big explosion at that explosion factory?” 😂😂
"Do you remember the moment when she gets a can of Pepsi?"
"Boy, do I!"
Someone who can " vaguely" see the future was blinded for life by a rock
Was it a rock or a firework... underwater?
She sees the future like that guy from Inhumans, who can calculate innumerable fight probabilities but then slips on some loose dirt, hits his head and loses his powers
@@tomato_dragon9585 😂🤣🤣
I was thinking exactly that too@@tomato_dragon9585
it all goes into making the character comic book accurate...showing her young and a few decades in the past of current MCU/Sony timelines, so that she can be the old lady in the chair in present time
I'd say that Sony's entire Spider-Man Without Spider-Man Cinematic Universe was a mug's game from start, but I guess "Venom" did well enough as camp to convince them there was some kind of appeal here.
The weird thing is that the Spider-Verse movies coming out of their animation unit have both been awesome, but those movies HAVE SPIDER-MANS IN THEM. They have ALL the Spider-Mans.
What’s funny about the Spiderverse movies (probably not related but maybe a “fun fact”) is that the first spiderverse, even though it was fantastic, didn’t do so well at the box office because of the previous movie “emoji”
The second spiderverse did way better because after the first spiderverse got released, word got around about how great it really is.
@@Grumpyskater One of the directors tweeted after the first one came out that "we seem to have made a word-of-mouth Spider-Man movie", which is a thing that didn't seem like it was logically possible. Its box office wasn't great but I recall it gathered cult hit status in streaming.
The problem with Sony is Avi Arad.
He's been sabotaging talented directors and writers since Spiderman 3. With producer based interference.
When you have sam Rami and Mark Webb making bad films, ordinairy film makers don't stand a chance.
Thank goodness the animated division doesn't answer to him so we still have the spider-verse movies to enjoy.
And Avi is producing the Legend of Zelda film… I hope Nintendo overrules his stupid decisions!
Avi Arad produced both Spider-Verse films. He suggested The Spot as the villain in Across.
@@Elite-0Zero I stand corrected.
Although given his live action record, I'm going to assume the long lead times still help insulate animation from producer interference.
Usually that’s the case, but this time it was Lorenzo di Bonaventura, who produced every live-action Transformers.
An Arkham movie, where Penguin or Two face or some crew is doing a bank heist or some kind of elaborate crime. Pan from the crime to the sky, and the bat symbol is in the sky. The Batman is never shown in the beginning but stalks the crew and picks them off one by one like the Alien movie. That would be a great superhero/horror movie
Make it scarecrow and have him detonate the fear toxin in hopes of it stopping batman, only for it to make batman scarier to the remaining criminals(and therefore, for the remainder of the movie)
IIRC the Stargate radio remix of Mis-Teeq's Scandalous is the original UK version, released in March 2003. The US single remix was released in June 2004.
My guy, thank you!
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing VENOM 3)
MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB)
And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT
AVI ARAD ruined everything again, just like he ruined TASM series
And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB
Long story short, NEVER let Sony cook
Long story short, Sony and Warner Bros should never touch a superhero movie ever again and lose their license
@@devstruction98 what's insane about WB is that they are DC !!! They hold all the rights to their own creations , they have great comic writers and fantastic writers for the animated series, movies and TV shows and they still don't make a good live action movie!!!!! All WB has/had to do was do exactly what's in the animated movies and it would be a hit.
Don't you dare speak ill about Avi Arad, the original true believer, whose vision led the way to bringing these iconic characters to the screen
Venom was alright and Venom2 was a downgrade in quality but its still fine. I personally think those two movies are overhated.
They're not great, thats 100% true, but at least they're enjoyable and actually watchable unlike the other ones on this list lol.
Shoutout to the Fidel for the edit! The syncing of of the J Jomah Jameson clip to the commentary from 9:00 to 9:11 was *chef's kiss 👨🍳👄🤌
After seeing the movie, it's portrayal of the villain, the origins, the lack of the costumes, and very little connections to the character and comics, it makes me ask "What was the point of calling it "Madame Web"?" Aside from a few vague references to the Spider-Man franchise and the character names, there's little about this movie that actually relates to the original comics. Did they think that people were clambering for a movie about Madame Web? Would fans of the comics even turn up to see this film simply because it was called "Madame Web" despite barely replicating the character they loved was replicated on the big screen? Maybe the movie could've been a lot better if it was it's own supernatural thriller about a girl who can see the future and is chased by a serial killer. I feel you could've done more original and creative concepts than shoehorning in Uncle Ben because they had to. They could've just called this movie "The Clairvoyant" or something like that, and I can guarantee you it wouldn't have been this laughably bad and Dakota Johnson firing her agent. Hell, The Matrix (1999) is a more accurate Madame Web adaptation than this.
So let me say this to movie studios, if you can't replicate the character you're adapting into a movie: CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE!!!!
Branding something that's an adaptation of the comics may backfire and ruin the original series and fanbase. Movies like Spawn, Catwoman, and Steel killed their legacies to the public eye for a number of years. That's probably why Spawn's hype suddenly died after 1997 because of one bad movie and why we haven't seen him in a while. It does nothing but hurt the property in the long run. It will make a misconception from casual viewers who don't know the characters, and just anger those who are familiar.
The Incredibles was basically an animated Fantastic Four movie, Darkman was basically The Shadow, RoboCop was basically an R-rater Iron Man movie, Chronicles was basically X-Men, and Brightburn was basically Superman. But guess what? They weren't branded as "Fantastic Four", "The Shadow", "Iron Man", "X-Men", and "Superman"! And the characters don't share the names of what they were inspired by. They were "adaptations-in-spirit" only, and were hell of a lot better received than if they were actual adaptations. I just would've rather this movie be an homage in-spirit rather than a title.
A theory:
JJJ is the only one that remembers Mr Jump. Maybe he lost someone in the car chase. And that's why JJJ HAAAAATES Spider-Man, because he remembers.
My favorite part of this is that Cassie is a Paramedic, but clearly has no qualms stealing several Vehicles. She steals a Taxi cab. She drives the cab to the airport, presumably parks it in long term parking since she tells Uncle Ben she will only be gone a week. She goes to Peru for some exposition scenes, then drives it back to Uncle Ben's house to see if by chance the young ladies she is supposed to be protecting are still there. Even though she has abandoned them for a second time. Then she steals an Ambulance while the crew is in the middle of a rescue!!! I am glad I got to see this movie because every movie from now on will at least seem like a decent film compared to this.
I love that Ben can never be anything ever, but Uncle Ben.
The way the villains voice didn’t line up with his mouth the entire movie
Fantastic, right? It was completely ADR.
I watched a 40 minute review on a movie I'm never going to watch being compared to other movies I haven't seen and will never watch. You guys did a great job making some form of entertainment out of this at least.
Honestly, the best thing about this film is the fine amount of ammo it has given my favorite movie reviewers to completely trash this thing into oblivion. Bless'em~
The fake can was probably related to them getting scammed into thinking it was an MCU movie. The MCU is generally filmed in Georgia, and we'd never allow Pepsi in a movie of ours.
I do feel bad for Matt Smith and Dakota and all the actors tricked into thinking they're in the mcu
@@tomimpalathe worst part imo is that they technically are since everything is potentially canon via the multiverse. So now when Marvel inevitably wants to reference Spider people for like Secret Wars or whatever these are gonna be among the variants they pull from. That’s so upsetting. Sony is doing so much damage outside of Tom Holland’s Peter sometimes and Miles’ trilogy that won’t be a trilogy
@@nailinthefashionI would bet the recent Sony products won't be referenced in the MCU unless in Spider-Man. K E.V.I.N. knows this crap is crap.
@@nailinthefashionAfter the whole fiasco the MCU has had with their own recent movies and now finally going back to quality over quantity (The Marvels really made them wake up thank goodness), I really doubt Kevin will take stuff from the sonyverse outside Venom (which lets not forget, he left a little bit of himself behind in the MCU already).
Mayyybe they bring some Spiderverse characters (hell yeah) but thats not the sonyverse, thats a whole separate thing on its own (thank fkn God for that lol)
The contracts have long since been signed by the time of filming. That's almost a conspiracy theory. Absolute nonsense.
I love you bring out the mama Webb doc appointment scene because she says," you never told me I was sick." When? When would she have told you you were sick? She died pushing you out.
I think originally Cassie must have been older when the mum died, and then they rewrote/ reshot it to her dying in childbirth? Most of the stuff she says about her mother doesn't really make sense if she never met her
18:23 Mason Phoenix Wright is amazing
@2:21 can confirm that the ticket sales for Bob Marley have demolished Madame Webb so far, at least at my workplace
19:17 As someone who was a kid around this time period, I don't remember people commonly having phones on them until 2005-2006, so the WOAH reaction makes a little sense.
This could've been a Final Destination movie where instead of the people dying from accidents, it was a serial killer. Just take out all spider-man references and have Tony Todd make a cameo to have a monologue about death.
I was so stupid i thought from the trailer the bad guy was going to turn out to be the antihero and the 3 spider-women were evil in the future :(
Braghhh
Well to be fair to you the good guys don’t usually throw people out of windows.
@@Jaydee-wd7wr Thanks you, i just thought it would be the big twist.
I'd watch that
You actually thought of something interesting. Instead it's the scene from Watchmen for no reason.
I really have to praise the editors cutting to random clips of people saying the words as the guys are saying them, or emoting through clips. Seriously so appreciated.
I feel like Ezekiel had webs in an earlier cut, but it was removed because they realized the spider bite traditionally doesn’t give webs. My proof for this is that whenever he jumps it quickly cuts away right as he jump. I swear when he’s fighting the cops in the subway he swings into the frame.
CPR is such a focus in the movie, because thats the one thing that people know EMTs do.
It baffles me that shit like miss web gets released but we will
Never see that *FINISHED* batgirl movie
Batgirl was also canned because the test audience HATED the movie. So likely it was just a very bad flick. There was probably nothing lost. Count your blessings and watch the Dark Knight again
It’s probably one of the worst films ever made if they canned it
@@NobuhikuObayashi...have you been paying attention to what Warner have been canning and deleting over the last two years? Not really an indicator of quality.
@@MrJimheerenso you mean to tell me; batgirl is reported to have test audience HATE it right? Did we hear that for Madame Web…was there even a test screening done by Sony? If so, that’s insane because it means some of our shitty population enjoyed this garbage.
If there were no test screenings, how is that? There’s a lot of shadiness is how a movie as bad as Madame Web gets released. Venom and Morbius make sense because of having Tom Hardy and then Jared Leto(even though having Leto is not a great thing lol.) but, Madame Web has nothing and is nothing.
@@thelastsith2706 Batgirl was produced by WB not Sony two different companies. And all I know is that the Batgirl movie was so hated by test audiences that it was a major reason why the movie was canned.
insane turnaround for editing for something this long right after the movie came out, well done
the poor editors having to stretch 2 minutes of trailer footage to 40 minutes lol
Scandalous by Mis-Teeq , even the remix you mentioned did indeed come out in 2003. It was made popular by the Halle Berry Catwoman movie promotions and is a guilty pleasure song with my and one of my friends
Yeah, I thought that too, no idea where James got 2018 from.
I like how Madame Web was luring Evil Spiderman to the S by slowly backinh up and looking at it but the Evil Spiderman never questioned it and kept following her
In the Pitch Meeting for "The Last Airbender," Ryan George refers to the rule of screenwriting, "Tell, don't show." It looks like the writers of this movie took this lesson to heart.
I reject their premise that everyone had a cell phone in 2003. I used the pay phone to call my mom to pick me up from sports practice, up until senior year when I had a car. The vast majority of my peers did not have one. I graduated high school in 2004 and got my first flip phone when I got to college. It did not have text message functionality. The original iPhone and first real smart phone didn't come out until 2007.
I was 15 in 2003 and most of my friends had phones. They didn't say everyone had one, but you wouldn't be astonished by the sight of one
I cant get over them showing a significant portion of the main cast individually learning CPR while we sat there waiting for the plot to continue. Never seen anything like that in a movie before 🚑
As they say in Hollywood: "You have to be a very good writer, to make a bad movie". Someone said the first drafts for God of Egypt and Dracula untold were really amazing but the studio picked it apart. Maybe it was the same with Madame Web. Dakota Johnson even said multiple times „the movie
is not the script I read“
Possible true, but this is the woman that made THREE 30 Shades movies, so maybe her idea of a good script is a little wonky.
@@kingfield99 the paycheck must have been good I guess? 🤔
Let's stop making excuses for them. These people are consistently associated with garbage, so maybe the Chernobyl series was just an anomaly.
_''Someone said the first drafts for God of Egypt and Dracula untold''_ - honestly, ALWAYS take those claims with a grain of salt. They're always making excuses. And isn't it just too weird that the writers for Gods of Egypt, Dracula Untold, Madame Web, Morbius, The Last Witch Hunter and Power Rangers are the same writers? You can't really justify major studio interference for ALL those movies... The common denominator is that its the same writers. They're just bad writers. All their movies at their core just have bad and bland ideas.
''You have to be a very good writer to make a bad movie'' that's not even a saying. 55% of a movie's quality comes from its writing - you can have the best _everything else_ but if writing fails,, the entire movie fails.
I agree after this $h!te mess she needs her nepo baby "actress" card rip to shreds.gtfo dakota ur acting in all your endeavors have been sheeeiiit.
C tier spider man character gets a movie without spider man in it
NICE
We still have Kraven.
@@anubusx these guys are villains so i cant understand why they make them into anti heroes which make no sense
@@mogamadrifaatabrahams8643
I agree it makes no sense.
This movie was made to retain a license.
I miss when movies were made to entertain audiences.
No it wasn't. The licence resets with every movie. If that were the case they would space kraven and venom3 years apart
@@kevinsmithfan37 you seriously think this was a real attempt at filmmaking? Did you see it? It was just sloppily thrown together and dumped in theaters. The only reason to release it is the rights; otherwise it would have been better off sitting on a shelf as a tax break and sparing them the marketing costs.
@@motor-3734 WB are the only ones who can do that tax break stuff because of the merger between Discovery.
Because of the take over they get given a window to write off projects as a loss. Sony don't have that luxury.
Again whenever sony make a spiderverse movie the rights reset from the time of release. If they release Madame web now the rights just reset right. Well the rights will reset again in a few months with Kraven and again with venom 3.
If Madame web really was only made to hold the rights what they would have done is shelf it for 5 years and release it soon as the rights would run out.
@@motor-3734No you are giving them too much credit. They truly think these shitty movies will build a franchise. They don't need to retain a license when Spider-verse came out less than a year ago.
@@motor-3734 it's that bad because they took a writing team who has only produced terrible work with a first time feature director. A director btw that directed a GoT spin off pilot that was so bad they scrapped the show and started from scratch.
28:12 - I believe the paralysis is a consequence of her being dead for a short time. I think.
Madame Web should have kept the old lady and have her make a team of Spider Ladies after finding out a Spider Person going evil and rampant in the Multiverse. Have her being played by Jamie Lee Curtis or course.
Ezekiel would be their mentor figure. Helping them out figuring out their spider powers. They would also bring in the magic totem concept from the Other comic where Ezekiel came from.
The Spider Girls would get their powers from Madame Web and they would have to fight off Evil Spider Guy.
Very Shazam and Black Adam situation
Scandalous came out in 2003
I think they mentioned it was the specific remix used in the film
Fun Fact: It was used as the theme for the Catwoman movie! 🤔 Wonder if there's a connection there...
@@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8No, Stargate were the producers of the 2003 single. He's just wrong
Mr Jumps has brought shame to the Jump name. Hopefully Jumpman redeems it in the crossover movie.
Ya coud 'ave been a lawyer, a plumber, a doctor! Hell your mother would have been upset but okay with you being a damn ref for the local boxing events! But a criminal? Your father is rolling in his grave!
I agree with all of this but I have to Um Actually, 'Scandalous' is a 2003 song. It was in the cinematic masterpiece that was Catwoman.
“Ezekiel Sims gets killed by the Pee in the Pepsi sign…” there’s a sign that tells you to pee in Pepsi?! I mean, I know it doesn’t taste great, but I don’t think peeing in it will help.
400 months pregnant...dang, poor woman
"Congratulations, It's a 32 year old man! Nurse get me the shaving kit and job the application forms"
This the first Mr. Sunday Movies video I’ve watched twice in less than 24 hours. So funny.
This means that 1) Peter Parker designed his custom based on a killer. Or 2) he just happened to based his custom on a killer. Both would be dumb.
It's even more dumb due to 1) Ezekiel isn't a villain in the comics. and 2) He doesn't have a costume like that, lol. It baffles me the choices made for this movie.
Been watching so long I can recognize when there's different editors. But actually I wanted to say it's going to be a decade of sundays for me in May wow. I still don't think you've done better than "Every Easter Egg in CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER" but boy howdy do I commend a decade worth of effort.
The Giuliani joke and the "shes having a big depression" jokes had me cackling hahaha yall were on fire with this one lmao
Those poor editors having to put the same clips in over and over cuz the movie's still in theaters. It would drive me insane, personally
In Marvel Comics, astral projection is restricted to telepaths and magic users. It is also something that they have to learn and not just something that they can instantly do. There are also entities like the Shadow King who lives in an astral form.
Not sure if it's just me, but i found the camera work really distracting and annoying in Madam Web. I don't normally notice that sort of thing, but perhaps it's because the film was so bad, it really stood out to me how often the camera would just be wobbling around, as if the camera man was drunk, and then there was all the times when they seemed to be trying to give that scene in Taken a run for the most number of cuts in the shortest time.
Can't wait for the sequel for this "Kraven the hunter movie"
My father was researching lions in Africa when he was killed
Maybe everyone in Australia was loaded in 2003, but having a cell phone in 2003 was a deal in the US.
“Writers can write a good script and it can get noted to death.” BIG MF’N FACTS. As someone who’s in Hollywood, actively trying to break in and living vicariously through my more successful friends 😅 this is absolutely something that I see time and time again. Great scripts get notes from everyone, and they’re often not that great and stray from the writers’ original intent. It’s so disheartening when you see comments or hear certain podcasters blast “talentless” writers when folks truly have no idea what scripts go through before a single frame is shot or role is cast. So, thanks for sticking up for the writers at the start. 🙏🏾
Passively watched this on streaming and I noticed that there’s no plot. Characters are just saying non-sequential things to each other and some stunts happen.
For example, when they’re building up a “tense” scene and a train passenger randomly asks “Do you know where this train is going?”. Sir, you’re telling me you got on a random Long Island railroad train and you have no idea where you’re going? I’m convinced the majority of the dialog is there to have enough sonic presence to fill the runtime
It baffles me how a studio of very talented people can make a movie this incoherent.
It was a bet
'very talented people' Are you sure about that?
Studio meddling, that's how. Nothing new for franchise sequels- especially nothing new for Sony Spider-man sequels.
I like to believe that Madame Webb at the end isn't paralyzed but that she is being dramatic about being blind and how she wouldn't want to walk into stuff... so, she just sits for now on and has a wheelchair on hand when she needs to move about. That's my head cannon 😅 @28:16
I’m confused, so was he, or was he not? In the Amazon with her mom, researching spiders right before died?
Yeah but for some reason didn't age in 30 year's
We may never know.
Scandalous by Mystique was also in Catwoman in the scene she’s debuting her amazing super useful costume. Not a good sign when you share a soundtrack song with Catwoman.
I feel like Ezekiel Sims as the villain is a werid choice as in the comics he was a ally of Peter.
What they should have done is have Kraven the Hunter as the villain.
Like, Dakota Johnson comes across as a non-actress. She doesn't act well in the movie, and in interviews, she's either clueless, or aloof. But the most surprising thing is that they cast Sydney Sweeney as a frumpy nerd chick.
The splitting into 3 thing would vaguely make sense if it's an allusion to the 3 fates (Greek and other mythologies), but I'm assuming that there is no explanation for that.
That's far too interesting an idea for a terrible movie like this.
11:38 to the editor that perfectly fit Strange & Wongs convo to match the back and forth from the boys. I noticed & enjoyed very much
Without watching the movie, this wouldve been my pitch:
Madame web origin same, but after its pretty much final destination sequel but with ezekial replaces death. As the movie goes on the women get powers, and madame web becomes ultra instinct until they overpower him and it ends like death proof on the side of the road and they continuously punch him to death.
It's wild that the movie just seems like this, but terrible.
I still love that umbrella reveal shot in the Amazon sequence. "Oh my! Ezekiel Sims was behind that umbrella the whole time!" - probably an actual line in the movie
“With great responsibility, comes great power”
- Madam Web
A+++ writing
If that's an actual quote I will piss myself
With great hackery comes great plagiarism.
@@FringeSpectreyou would be more piss by the actual quote from the movie
@@FringeSpectre the actual quote is the poignant "when you take on the responsibility, great power will come"
@@blipmachine No way that's the actual quote... That is so farcical.
I know its not the same universe but I like to think that when her mom was search the jungle for spiders to cure disease they were like 20 minutes away from Dr. Michael Morbius doing the same thing but with Bats.
Why Sony's movie division is such a mess? It's been 10 years of bad direction, since 2016 Ghostbusters
In 2003 it was a huge deal to have a cell phone. I was a sophomore at MSU and I knew maybe 3 people with cell phones. Texting cost like $10 a word.
Did the over the over-the-shoulder camera shots when they smash zoom into people having mildly normal conversation get very distracting for everyone else as well
Just as another clue to the time period, the NY license plate on the car she drowns in is the version that was issued first in 2001, then phased out starting in 2010.
The "P" falling on him is obviously for Madame Peb
20:29 Mason killed me with this line. It makes so much more sense than the movie's explanation. 🤣
Actually having a cellphone in 2003 was very unusual. They are ubiquitous now but they were pretty rare back then. The existed sure but not common
Nah man. I live in the middle of nowhere, Canada. We didn't even have coverage in my whole city in 2003, and my family is squarely lower middle class, and we had a cellphone in 2002. They weren't ubiquitous, but certainly no one was writing home about the time they saw a cell phone
Batman defenses are hilarious. It's always 'Batman wins because he has the exact McGuffin he needs". His 'power' is basically mad libs for fans.
Sony. Why.
They might as well not release Kraven and spare us the pain.
@@somerandoladnow I'm thinking on that last Kraven trailer- which scene is going to be from the climax, when he's doing his truck nose biting, or what?
teens with cell phones in 2003? mostly only if they were dealers, at least where I lived. it was more towards 2006, 2007, 2008 that most people had a phone (and still not everyone)
Nah here in the UK we all had phones in school in 2001/2002. My family didn't even have much money but I still had a phone, was a Sony Ericsson coca cola phone haha
I love reviews that start off by defending the writers of the movie who have written exclusively bad movies for 10 years.
If you actually listen, they explain how it takes real talent to be paid for any script in Hollywood, given the levels of competition. A movie isn’t made by the writers. Studios are especially to blame as they will turn an amazing script into hot garbage. Dolts on the internet that know nothing of the writing process just want to list the movies these writers were involved with, and feel like they are saying something witty.
@@Psilocybin77 so the multiple movies they’ve written that were made by at least 3 different studios that all just happened to be extremely uniquely shit were done so by the separate studios? Yea I’m not buying that. And trust me talent is definitely not necessary to be paid in Hollywood.
Very true that studios change a lot of the vision but also, sometimes, you can just write a bad script. If your track record is exclusively bad movies…