Madlib said him and DOOM hardly saw each other during the process of making this album. Madlib would be downstairs making the beats and DOOM would be writing upstairs. They would meet on the roof to smoke and exchange their work. It’s really interesting to hear how they were in the same house, somewhere in LA, and didn’t even speak that much. True geniuses.
It's not that "he isn't saying much" It's that he is saying a lot with very little. That's a talent of MF DOOM. He is able to squeeze a ton of meaning into verse or bar. Like you pointed out with the "Pan it, can it, and ban it". Less is more with DOOM. MF DOOM is a British-American rapper.
I really had to push myself back from the lyrics during this first listen to prevent myself from staring at the words for minutes at a time trying to figure out what was actually being said. I agree there is a lot going on, but I really felt like it was all going over my head lol
Its not just ryhme schemes, it’s the wit and sense and clarity he is able to pack, I mean pack, into even one line, whilst constructing insane ryhme scehemes.
I guarantee you MF DOOM's lyrics are deeper than you realize. They are deeply tied to 5 percenter methodology and hip hop. And that's a field of its own.
@@johannesgutenburg6425 yeah the amount of references he can make and his wide knowledge of a ton of topics too, he was just super knowledgeable about so many topics.
His lines paint a picture slowly over the course of the song that show you different little themes ideas and pieces that have cohesion but are still creatively vague and hard to pin down, leaving room for open interpretation. This is DOOMS style.
MF DOOM is one of the best hip-hop writers of all time. It’s extremely hard to understand sometimes however because his lyrical content is so dense. You’ll start understanding the lyrics more and more as you listen to it.
Judging by the comments and what people are saying, I think this album is going to help me crack the door on understanding the mechanics of rap and what's going on with lyrical structure
He is a punchline rapper the bar by itself can be dense but whennu put them all together its not really about anything just about his flow which is still dope but its not like a Kendrick where everything is thought out on a grand scale
this whole albums produced by Madlib and he’s one of the most legendary hip hop producer of all time. He has some great records with Freddie Gibbs that i’m sure you’ll enjoy, Piñata and Bandana.
@@spookydascary1376 a freudian slip is like when you accidentally say something, not sure how to explain that but he saying if you slip with what you say, you gon play yourself like an accordion which sometimes plays itself, like when you dangle it or something, and it’ll be the last thing you do hence “first and last” but a lot of wordplay going on in two lines
@@spookydascary1376 to give a further explanation, a Freudian Slip is specifically when you accidentally say something that your subconscious thinks. For instance, telling your girl "I'm going to pick you up at sex o'clock" instead of saying six o'clock.
@@madcap4208 yep, i have an accordion, button not piano, but the same . mostly gravity when playing out with the bellow which is 90% of the time. in you prop it up to in. press a key as it dangle and it will play, i lean more to regional mexican corridos but sam concept. You never need to pull out, just guide your hand as gravity plays and you pull the air switch to do it again
He has an accent because his mom is from Zimbabwe and his dad from Trinadad. He was born in London but moved to NYC early in his life. Just one of the many reasons his voice is so unique. Madlib is also one of the greatest producers of all time. This album remains in my top 5 after over 20 years.
If you think a lot of what DOOM is saying is random, I suggest you listen to the lyricologists lyrical breakdown on accordion. A lot of what he says is obscure references and specific things most won’t understand, but everything he says has a meaning. He is an amazing writer.
dude his video on Rhinestone Cowboy blew my mind. I thought the 3rd verse was mostly gibberish but it all has meaning if you know the references. Shoutout to Archie Bell & The Drells
Madlib is a classic west coast producer. If you enjoy his style of production, I'd recommend listening to Quasimoto's "The Unseen" and "Yessir Whatever", as well as Freddie Gibbs' "Piñata" and "Bandana". Quasimoto is Madlib's rap alter ego, however it sounds like he's since retired that character. The 2 Freddie Gibbs albums were entirely produced by Madlib, and the chemistry between those two is incredible; the vibe is quite different to "Madvillainy", but Madlib gets to show off his flexibility.
HELL YES. Legit a masterpiece of an album, so glad you finally listened to it. MF DOOM defined my teenage years and rap experience, hes my second fav of all time (behind andre 3000)! Thanks bob for the great reaction!!!
@@ezrahaskard3527 nah hes never dropped a solo album (technically the love below but thats still outkast). He has a ton of features tho, my faves r prolly the real her, pink matter, solo reprise, life of the party, rollinem 7s, come home, and wheres the catch.
Once you’ve listened to this a few more times I really recommend you look into the lyrics a little more. Everything means so much more than you originally expect in the way doom raps them. It really gives this album more of a meaning
DOOM really liked to play with his Villain persona. You were mentioning watching live perfomances, there were shows where he'd just send a random look a like of him with a mask on and just perform normally and nobody would notice until the dj would cut him off and expose him (i find it pretty hilarious), one of my favourite times was when it turned out to be Hannibal Buress (he's a comedian btw, love him)
This album was definitely monumental in influencing so many underground rappers. What DOOM and Madlib did here has definitely rippled out to the music we hear from Earl, Danny Brown, Open Mike Eagle, Billy Woods, RAP Ferreira, Quelle Chris. List goes on, but this album is definitely an anomaly that is truly a classic imo.
as a person whose first language is not english the lyrics in this album made sense to me almost a year later after i heard it and still some of it goes over my head thats what makes listening to DOOM so much fun to me cuz im like OOHHHHHHHH YOOOO HOLY SHIT THATS SUCH A FIRE BAR on the 25th time ive heard that same track
I dont know who told you not to pay much attention to the lyrics but that is literally (imo) the most important part of this album. of course the writing and production of the songs are amazing but DOOM's lyrical and rhyming expertise is what makes his music what it is. great reaction nonetheless, I hope you enjoyed and would massively recommend 'MM...FOOD' by MF DOOM. also an incredible album. Love from the UK.
I thought the lyrics were great (well, his flow I guess), but they're definitely a puzzle to be solved. It made this first listen a real challenge, but I still enjoyed the hell out of it. Great album 🤘
1) I second Mm… Food as the next reaction 2) yes, the rhymes are the most famous aspect of DOOM, but the lyrics themselves cannot be ignored 3) having said that, the production is mind bogglingly good on this
@@bobthepoppop indeed they are a puzzle, I’ve been a fan of the man for years and I still find myself stumbling onto double and sometimes triple entendres I’d never even thought of. A good example would be from a track on the MM…FOOD record where he says “oh shoot! The goose is loose! So wild you couldn’t chase it down with straight fruit juice”. For years I either didn’t pay attention to this bar or just thought of it as random nonsense (as you do with all DOOM lyrics until they click and you feel like an idiot and a genius at the same time), but after many listens I realised he may be referring both to a real goose (for some reason) but he’s definitely talking about grey goose vodka, commenting that it’s so wild you can’t chase it down with anything as it would spoil it. Stuff like this makes DOOM what he is. Keep rocking Bob. I enjoy your reactions thoroughly!
After listening to DOOM for mad years, I just realized that MF DOOM and MM...FOOD have the same letters, just mixed up...does anyone know if this is by design? It's DOOM after all, so I'm sure NOTHING is coincidental!
Dude dont worry about not having anything to say. Nothing more authentic than your excited facial expresions on the songs, thats an honest reaction. Goat album!!!!!!!
Love to see you enjoyed this. Definitely need to give his other album MM FOOD a listen, I think you would enjoy it more as it’s a more thematic album and it’s my personal fav. Great reaction though 👍🏻
DOOM is my favorite rapper, he actually is saying a lot in this album but it is difficult to decipher so your decision to focus on the music was a good one because Madlib is one of the greatest producers of all time. Like you said DOOM is named after the marvel villian Dr Doom but his mom was the one who called him that cause him and his brother were always reading comics. Before DOOM was DOOM he and his brother DJ Subroc had a rap group called KMD that was on the come up in the early 90s but in 93 Subroc died and the record company canceled their upcoming album, which lead to DOOM to become homeless. He became resentful to the rap industry for pushing him aside and decided to become the villian of rap and take over the culture as MF DOOM (the MF stands for Metal Face when he raps and Metal Fingers when he produces). I suggest you listen to his first album as MF DOOM Doomsday or my personal favorite album Mm Food next.
MF DOOM was an amazing rhymer (as he said) and producer. He went under Metal Fingers (still MF lol) as a producer. He has many volumes of instrumentals that have since been bundled together. Most of his music can be streamed but not all likely due to licensing and with all the samples he used. Viktor Vaughn, King Geedorah and even just DOOM. Then there's all his collab stuff. Madvillain is DOOM + Madlib but you have JJ DOOM, NehruvianDOOM, Czarface, Danger DOOM, etc. That's excluding his first group with his friend and brother called KMD. He was known as Zev Love X back then. They were about to release their second album when his brother was killed, hit by a car that drove off, iirc. They were then dropped by the label and the album shelved. After that he ended up homeless and drinking. It took years but he returned as MF DOOM and most didn't know of him at all but when they heard his demos, they were interested but no one knew who he was. A true Super Villain who returned to get his revenge on the industry.... On the world! He played into the role so well. And btw, DOOM also comes from Dumile. His real name. Dum is pronounced like DOOM.... And if you haven't noticed, ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MAN'S NAME!
What happened early in his life really blows me away. It's so easy to glance at his persona and think it's some kind of gimmick for showmanship, but he really did make it a personality in his art. Learning about him and his brother and everything that happened make me feel a little badly about my MF joke to be honest. I have a lot of respect for the guy.
I really enjoyed that reaction brother. With DOOM, you definitely need to just listen and enjoy, don't think too much. His songs are just made for you to feel good and relax! Earned yourself a new subscriber man :)
For some reason this album makes me nostalgic for watching late night adult swim in the early-mid 2000s (I guess maybe because the transitions and old cartoon samples feel kinda like flipping through the channels and DOOM would later go on to work with AS quite a bit)
@@eternal4074 Its honestly cool to see how many people who watch the channel have recognized it on the last few videos since dds are not the most popular group in the world but super underrated & talented imo 👌
I always feel like I’m literally in a comic book every time I listen to it. It’s always an experience. DOOMS rhyme scheme is iconic and madlib might be the best rap producer of all time defintely top 5.
It should be noted even though it looked like you thoroughly enjoyed it on your first listen, going back to this album is always rewarding. I’ll admit when I first listened to it I thought it was a very mediocre album but something compelled me to keep listening and every re listen made me fall more and more in love with it. It quickly became a top 3 hip-hop album for me
SO HYPED FOR THIS. My favorite artist and album of all time period. So much influence over the genre or hiphop. Spotify tells me Im in the 1% of MFDoom listeners the past couple years. Id love to get on the community convos series and speak to you about how this artist changed my life!
For DOOM it’s more about the word play and rhyme schemes than content or flow I recommend the RUclips channel “Highlighted” they break down his schemes visually pretty well Glad you reacted to this! Great stuff!
you totally should have read into fancy clown more, hes not talking about his girl cheating then him cheating, hes talking from the point of view of his "alter ego" viktor vaughn. Hes talking about how his gf is cheating on him with MF DOOM. Hes telling a story of him as viktor vaughn being upset about this guy MF DOOM, who is also him stealing his girl.
Wanted to say before even watching the vid, til this DAY there are still lyrics I deceiver in DOOM's music and I've been listening to him for years, I seen you said in a comment about some of his lyrics going over your head, dont worry the joy comes from going over and over these tracks to really stir on them. Gonna watch the reaction now.
You are so good at explaining complex, subjective things that are difficult to explain. Things that might not objectively "make sense", but we can easily grasp the feeling or vision you're trying to get across. Love the content and am excited to see your stuff evolve :)
I recommend Piñata by Freddie Gibbs. it’s also a colab album with Madlib (the producer for this album) and it’s awesome. A lot of people consider it to be one of the best albums of the decade with great beats/production and awesome rapping
You should also do Outkast at some point, favourite rap duo of all time. Also, his lyrics do have meaning it's just that they're very abstract and hard to understand. You should watch videos of his lyrics with the rhymes highlighted. It's insane how many internal rhymes he can fit in a sentence, few rappers can use words the way he does
Glad u listened to this! Great vid! It’s regarded as one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time! A couple of thoughts I had. One it could be both a not lyric listen album and a really listen to DOOM has very complex rhyme schemes ( there some RUclips vids on it) and he also speaks in many metaphors& figures of speech. There’s also many layers to DOOM as person and artist once u get more into him with his many alter egos and what he’s trying to portray. Another is that this is a collab album with producer madlib, he has really good stuff and this is kinda his style. ( Highly recommend piñata with Freddie Gibbs and Madlib, one of my fav albums ever) Glad u found some of the references and meanings behind the music and lyrics. Ur channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites cuz u always try to look for the best in the music and even notice stuff I don’t notice as an avid listener of hip hop. Ur also very entertaining believe it or not lmao. Those are my thoughts sorry for the long ass comment but thanks
I recommend XXX by Danny Brown, Extremely visceral, personal and hilarious along with so many words that come to mind.. youll be absolutely floored by this album!!
Fun fact about « Great Day »: Madlib plays himself the sample on his rhodes Madlib is a multi-instrumentalist producer, he released several jazz albums where he played all the instruments. This guy is a genius.
I highly recommend you add Gza-Liquid Swords to your list. He’s a wu-tang clan member but this solo album has a similar theme to MadVillany but related to Samurais.
@@benlarson795 Agreed! Start with Enter the 36 Chambers. It will be different than what he is typically likes but it’s such a great album that he should appreciate it.
so ever since I got covid about 3 days ago I have not been able to do very much. I would like to send my appreciation and respect for you to actually take your time with each album you listen to and actually listen to the words and give your thoughts on everything. I personally have already listened to all the albums you have reviewed BUT I love going back and listening in full each album and you make that so much more enjoyable. Thank you very much for your content. Keep it up! Hope to see more in the future.
I think with DOOM it’s less about the *meaning* of the words (though there much of it, as others point out) and more about the *art* of the words. Forces you to listen to lyrics for the sake of the musicality and rhythm in language, rather than it’s ability to represent ideas.
OMG im so happy you did this. Madvillainy is one of my favorite albums ever and just a few days ago I went through your channel to see if you ever did a reaction. Thank you!!
This is probably my favorite hip-hop album period. For live performances, going back a few weeks, I strongly reccomend checking out the Colors performance of JPEGMafia's Thug Tears.
I’m glad you liked the Samples and beats on this . That is all Madlib , in my opinion a top 3 producer , I would love if you could see his other work , He produced Freddie Gibbs “piñata” and “Bandana” , I think you would like Both
If I could compare DOOM to anything it's jazz legends like Charlie Parker or Coltrane. To me bebop solos have the same appeal as DOOM's bars. Less open minded listeners might think it's random chaotic sounds, but looking deeper into it there is a structure, references, licks and all connected to the rhythm and harmony. Thank you for checking out this monument of music! You won't have to "get" it all at once, come back to it enjoy the beats and sound of DOOMS soloing, if lyrics stand out try to dig deeper. To me his music is timeless and I can always come back and find something new in this music.
K.dot is definitely up there for me as well. He's like a Miles Davis, keeping up with the times always changing. Deep roots and connections with the OGs and somewhat mysterious ( I hope this year's drop of Kendrick will be fresh or cinematic as previous projects ). Also Top of the morning top of the morning top of the morning top of the morning, let's get this shit!
@@LevelH34D bro couldn’t agree more kendrick don’t get the respect he deserves from like casual rap fans dude is an absolute legend and no current rapper comes close to him
@@jackdriggers4413 I don't think he's not respected in general. Kendrick Lamar is HIGHLY respected among everyone who even slightly comes across him tbh. It's just at the moment not as visible due to the lack of a new album. Once he drops a new LP you'll see everyone raving about him again.
why is doom so great is because he is trying to do four things at once, he is trying to stay in character, he is trying to stay within the theme of the song, he is trying to fill in as many rhymes as possible and on top of all that he is trying to be funny as well, which is crazy, its like you are watching the greatest juggling act performed on a balancing wire.
You're love and excitement for music brings smiles to the rest of us music boobs. Reactions like this, from people such as yourself...make me experience a sense of comradery with the outside world, than I would otherwise. I don't know. Just know this video put me in a better place for the time being.
You really respecting Sickfit (instrumental track) was intended to be rapped on by DOOM, but he said the beat was too good that any lyrics would do it an injustice. A real testament to how Madlib can carry an album.
haven’t watched yet but from your previous reactions i think it’d be a much better experience for you by reading the annotations. excited for this one as it’s one of my favorite albums of off time!
This album actually has an orchestrated version! That's right, A full blown orchestra released two albums of covers of songs from Madvillain. They even got DOOM himself to feature on an original closing track! They're my go to albums for studying.
I feel like you gotta revisit this one in a personal setting with just you, your headphones and the music. Also look up the references he’s making if you’re not familiar. He’s telling dope, funny stories and is trying to get you to peep the insanity of it, all while bobbin ya head and laughing. Doom has a HUGE cult following for a reason my guy.👍🏿 HE’S A VILLAIN
The description of the sound and what that opens up for images in your mind is so on point...it shows me that you have completely dig this album. It's a pretty accurate description of the All Caps music video. Even with the big coat.
"It reminds my of movies from the 70s, that I've never seen". Dude, you nailed it! I feel that all the time listening to DOOM. Through sound, he can paint a psychedelic, vintage scenario that is clear as day. When it comes down to breaking down his lyrics, you can go through a whole other rabbit hole. Everything is a double entendre
"Operation: Lifesaver" very much has a story. It's a very coded story about walking up to a girl with bad breath. The context is interwoven with the lyrics. He drops you into a moment in the club where you lean into a girl to talk louder, then "wow, she caught me off guard, went to breath out, etc..." Doom is the most literary rapper in the sense that it's more rewarding the more you have a foundation of general literature, both music and hip hop history, and the black experience to understand his specific references, but also his use of different writing techniques to both obfuscate and clarify his very adhd comic book way of presenting life's various experiences.
If you want to listen to more of the guy who produced this album, Madlib, listen to The Unseen by Quasimoto. The samples on that album are even crazier and more out of this world, and the rapping is also done by Madlib, both as himself and his high pitched alter ego, Lord Quas. Him and DOOM are kindred spirits and Madvillainy is undoubtedly one of the best rap releases ever
I realy love and appreciate how you started to visualize the scenes and images in your head. MF DOOM truly is a painter that uses words, really cinematic with the beats and moods. He literally builds sound textures. you HAVE TO react to Quasimoto's "The Unseen". If you delve deep into this part of rap and hiphop, you'll sure be amazed by the new worlds and planescapes these dudes crafted masterfully
DOOM is one of those guys that's hard to appreciate unless you have listened to a ton of hip, or maybe even dabbled in writing yourself for a few years. It's almost like it's less about what he is, and more about what he's not. He's your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. He's the villain. It's almost like he's trying to make unenjoyable music, that you can't help but enjoy. Kinda reminds me of Charles Mingus in the old jazz scene. He's definitely a weird dude, but, it's hard not to love him. He's just so left field, yet still technical as hell doing it. If it ever clicks, it's just a ton of fun to listen to though. Edit: I do think you're getting it more as the listening goes on though. "It's a reminder that playing is fun". Fun to watch man. Sometimes just reading the lyrics aloud to yourself to see how weird they feel is enjoyable with DOOM. I will say, I agree that they're not "saying" alot, in that they're not solving life's mysteries, but, from Rap's sort of unique definition of lyricism, they're super technical. There's a really great video of Mos Def (one of the greatest rap lyricst of all time) just appreciating DOOM, with a great quote in it "He rhymes as weird as I feel", even to the greats his style is just so damn hard to duplicate. So, sure, you can gloss over the lyrics in a sense, but, they really are there to be appreciated as well, not for their context or content per se, but for their mechanics. Also really interesting closing thoughts, I wouldn't really use DOOM as an intro, only because, it's not really what Hip Hop sounds like usually. I've always used The Roots, or Tribe Called Quest as they blend in more natural musical elements while still being close to the pinnacle of the genre. They explain the elements of hip hop more clearly I think, but, DOOM isn't too far behind, as yeah, he kinda shows how zany the genre can be as well. I think you were at the perfect point to get a glimpse at DOOM, and the weirder side of really technical rhymers.
God, this brings me back to when i first listened to Madvillainy. My older brother sat me down, and said "try to figure out whats different with this album." We had grown up with classic boom-bap, typical rhyme flow, and he just blew me out of the water with the way DOOM spoke. Rhyming within his own lines, crazy snares, we couldn't get enough. Keep it up. Loving your work.
This is really cool to see, but it's still so way over my head 😂 I still have A LOT to learn when it comes to understanding these intricacies. BUT... this album will definitely help me learn more
@@bobthepoppop Haha I hear you. I still don't understand it that well, though I think I can appreciate it pretty well. I.e. I know *that* I like it though I don't know exactly *why* I like it. I often wish that I had an on/off switch for my ability to understand English, so that I could flip it off and purely soak in the sound and feeling of the language without concerning myself with its meaning.
Really like this video and the advice to focus on the musicality was definitely spot on for your first listen. The music really builds a visual settings and allows your imagination to run wild with vivd images. However, that only sets the canvas for the story. As you give the album more listens, I suggest that you focus more on the lyrics and how they interact with the music. The lyrics also paint their own picture, and combined with the music, makes the album an “auditory film” rather than a record. The more you listen, the more you’ll be able to catch and appreciate. Overall, I’m glad you’ve been able to enjoy this album as many of us have, and hope you get to enjoy even more of DOOM’s discography. P.S. If you’re a fan of hash, I can highly suggest it this album and most of DOOMs work lol
I had the same reaction at first, wasn't sure how I felt about the rhymes because like you said it's a ton to handle. I stuck around for the dope beats and really listened to what he's saying it's really incredible. I think mm..food is his best album by far. It uses food analogies for every song and is more relatable to the average person I think. Edit: also a neat fact they both pretty much just hung out ate mushrooms and smoked mad weed and just made this. No planning or nothing just effortless creativity, thats what makes this one of the best hip hop tapes out there. A real sonic painting
33:38 I spent two full years loving this album and listening to it non-stop. I never noticed this until you mentioned it. Its such a key sound that the beat needs but you don't normally acknowledge.
He was born in London, moved to NY at a young age so he grew up there. One time touring outside the US he returned to find out he wasn't allowed back in. He was technically illegal and he ended up moving to London, if I recall right. Which is insane because I live here. I wish I got to see him perform at some point.
Been with you awhile, dont comment often, but felt it was necessary for this one since it my favorite album of all time. Just wanted to say that I love the content and to keep doing your shit bro.
This album includes the beats of madlib he's also a rapper with alter ego's. check out the producers as well on these albums. like who produced the track or tracks
1st Few times listening to a MF DOOM album: There isn't really anything here to grasp.. 3-6 times listening to a MF DOOM album: Ah ok I'm catching a few lines here and there this guy is so creative 20th time listening to a MF DOOM album: hmmm "Crime pays, no dental nor medical.. Unless you catch retirement County, state, or federal" .. genius. 46th time listening to a MF DOOM album: ...FOOD!?
MF Doom is Ph.D. level lyricism. You really have to know your hip hop slang and history. He has a simple flow, but his bars often pack a bunch of dual meanings and symbolism. Part of the fun of Doom is decoding what he is saying.
It's really cool to see how much you appreciate it I really like it, my favorite track is Figaro and I think it was actually the first song I heard from DOOM and it made me listen to him. Awesome video, I would love to see you react to Mm...food as well, or DANGERDOOM, both great albums.
awesome, so glad you got around to this! you are dead on when it comes to the "playfulness" that comes with this album, and Mablib's production is incredible. for an album like this and a rapper like doom, it's hard if not impossible to take everything in on a first listen. there's just a lot going on. there's nothing wrong with the way you approached it because of that, and i do think later in the album you seemed to be getting a better feel for doom as a rapper. that being said, i think anyone who was telling you to ignore the lyrics was doing you a disservice. doom as a rapper is as impressive as mablib as a producer. when people say he isn't really rapping about anything or not to look too deep into it, the idea is more that there usually isn't a strong overarching narrative for any particular song, not that the lyrics aren't worth paying attention to. doom as a lyricist isn't really telling a story, he's putting together a mosaic. individual lines or groups of lines are often super clever and the fun is in piecing it together, and appreciating how complex the structure of the rhymes are as he does it. every song has 30 examples of how he's doing this, the opening line on Money Folder for instance "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, After you who's last? It's doom, he's the worst known". Doom takes the biblical saying "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and says that he will be the one who throws the very last stone, meaning that he is the worst sinner. the line is just a clever way to emphasize his supervillain character and say that he's a badass which is why people were telling you not to read too deep into the lyrics on the album, but the fun of it is trying to put together all these clever lines that together paint the picture of who doom is. interpreting a doom song is like putting together a puzzle. hope this doesn't come across as critical at all, enjoyed the reaction and like i said it's impossible even for people very familiar with hip hop to take everything in the first time they listen to doom. just wanted to put some of that out there in case you come back to him in the future, which you absolutely should!
Bob, I really really hope that you are able to do this full time some day. I’ve been showing tons of my friends your channel and they all love you. 100% my favourite youtuber rn. You got real fans out here my man 💯 Seeing you genuinely enjoy what you’re doing is awesome.
I hope so too. For now, I can't quite pull it off, but we'll see where this year takes us, man. Ya never know... and thanks for the kind words and showing your friends!
@@bobthepoppop In a year you’ll have 10 times the audience you do now, I can guarantee it. Your growth so far has been incredible. You’re almost at 50k, you’ll be at 100k by summer.
Now I have to thank you for showing me something I hadn’t noticed before in this masterpiece Madvilliany. At 45:00 you talked about the sample at the end of Strange Ways how it seems to represent the military industrial complex? Genius my friend, 17 years and hadn’t noticed that one before. Thanks again. RIP TO THE BEST MC WITH NO CHAIN YOU EVER HEARD
Love this album. If you wanted to dig deeper into MF DOOM I'd say check out MM..FOOD. In my opinion it's his best album but all of them are so great. RIP DOOM
This is the first video i’ve seen on your channel and im amazed by how you reacted because you described it almost perfectly how i feel about it and that got me really entertained and invested into the video, good job! i’ll definately check out some more content of yours,,,,, also if you dig that kinda gritty lofi sound i strongly suggest you to check out Standing On The Corner’s LP titled ”Red Burns” . they are an amazing experimental improv-ish hiphop group from New York, would love to see your take on it!
If you enjoy this you gotta check out Vaudeville Villain by Viktor Vaughn (DOOM's other alter-ego). Becoming a fan of DOOM leads you down a long and incredible hole where you just want to dig deeper and deeper. RIP Dumile!
I'm really interested to see your opinion on earl sweatshirt, he's really inspired by MF DOOM but his voice is much more calm and his lyrics more resemble poetry his album some rap songs is also nicknamed "Sadvillainy"
i pray he just gets to the best stuff first n starts w Some Rap Songs. earls earlier shi is still great but i think srs easily his best n most important
Hey Bob, loved the reaction. Madlib's production is GOAT status. The persona of MF DOOM is based off the marvel comic book villain dr. doom, so the whole album is meant to have an almost "cartoonish" feel. One thing I would say about his lyrics is not to write them off so fast. It might seem like simple free association but when you break it down and are able to follow (granted DOOM's tongue twister rhymes schemes make this very difficult) it unlocks a whole new layer of the album. The pictures come alive in my head
I'm excited to experience this album for the first time with you! I've only heard one or two of this guys songs before, but I've been meaning to check it out. 👍🏼
I've been listening to this album for years and you always find something you missed the first 5000 times. DOOM codes his bars so when you finally understand what he means, what's he's saying....it blows your mind with how genius it is. Madlib did all of the beats. DOOM was on rhymes. Just a phenomenal album
DOOM was so special because even after listening to him forever, there are still some bars that I barely catch now. Great video bob! long live Daniel Dumile
Just got the album on vinyl last night. One of the best albums of all time in my opinion. Top tier lyricism. One of the best produced albums ever. Song after song has something to unpack. Might not even be my favorite DOOM album sometimes cause MM…FOOD is just as great in my opinion. Madvillainy is just a Goliath release for hip hop though,especially the experimental side of it
great review and insight! i always enjoy watching people react to madvillan for the first time, this album and subsequent works by DOOM and Madlib really shaped my taste in music. if you enjoyed this i highly highly recommend an album called "the unseen" under one of Madlib's alias "Quasimoto". This is one of the few albums where madlib raps and produces all the beats. like this album its light hearted, recorded in high fidelity, and ground breaking all at the same time.
Glad you finally got to this. When I first listened to doom years back in my late teens, a lot of the lyrics went over my head. Every year since then I've been understanding the lyrics as I got older. He takes some getting used to on first listen but once you get the schemes and layered meanings, those moments stick with you. I always get excited to rap along with the lyrics once I understood em. Some of his slang references are so removed from Hip-Hop culture that I even end up learning a thing or two after some googling. 😅
Great reaction! One good thing that I am seeing is that you are starting to let go of the expectation that every song/album is "supposed" to have some sort of linear story. As I'm sure you've discovered so far, that's rarely how hip hop lyrics are written. An album like this or Reasonable Doubt especially is more abstract in nature than a story-- you're taking in imagery and interpreting it, not following a narrative. You may not have a linear story in your head at the end of the album, but you certainly have a very clear picture of who this person is, how they write, and whatever else they wanted to show you. Think about it as poetry more so than lyrics. You don't search for some sort of concrete narrative in an Emily Dickinson poem. Just something to think about, as I feel that letting go of that expectation would aid greatly in helping you enjoy albums like this one, Reasonable Doubt, Die Lit, etc.
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Madlib said him and DOOM hardly saw each other during the process of making this album. Madlib would be downstairs making the beats and DOOM would be writing upstairs. They would meet on the roof to smoke and exchange their work. It’s really interesting to hear how they were in the same house, somewhere in LA, and didn’t even speak that much. True geniuses.
Wow that’s amazing I never knew that
Doing bong hits on the roof in the West Coast
@@veez4425 he’s at it again, mad at the pen
@@jkashdamoneyman5870 Glad that we win, a tad fat, in a bad hat for men
It was in a bunker under the house that madlib produced while doom wrote. very good story
grind the cinnamon, manhattan warmonger
It's not that "he isn't saying much" It's that he is saying a lot with very little. That's a talent of MF DOOM. He is able to squeeze a ton of meaning into verse or bar. Like you pointed out with the "Pan it, can it, and ban it". Less is more with DOOM. MF DOOM is a British-American rapper.
He’s British?
@@northover6015 Yeah
I really had to push myself back from the lyrics during this first listen to prevent myself from staring at the words for minutes at a time trying to figure out what was actually being said. I agree there is a lot going on, but I really felt like it was all going over my head lol
@@northover6015 he was born in UK
@@bobthepoppop its understandable. almost impossible to catch everything on a first listen
the lyrics are great to listen to, not because they are “deep” but because of his genius rhyme schemes
Yeah they’re not always deep, but they definitely seem more cohesive and clever the more you listen
Its not just ryhme schemes, it’s the wit and sense and clarity he is able to pack, I mean pack, into even one line, whilst constructing insane ryhme scehemes.
I guarantee you MF DOOM's lyrics are deeper than you realize. They are deeply tied to 5 percenter methodology and hip hop. And that's a field of its own.
@@johannesgutenburg6425 yeah the amount of references he can make and his wide knowledge of a ton of topics too, he was just super knowledgeable about so many topics.
His lines paint a picture slowly over the course of the song that show you different little themes ideas and pieces that have cohesion but are still creatively vague and hard to pin down, leaving room for open interpretation. This is DOOMS style.
MF DOOM is one of the best hip-hop writers of all time. It’s extremely hard to understand sometimes however because his lyrical content is so dense. You’ll start understanding the lyrics more and more as you listen to it.
Judging by the comments and what people are saying, I think this album is going to help me crack the door on understanding the mechanics of rap and what's going on with lyrical structure
@@bobthepoppop you should check out the lyrical breakdowns of some of his tracks from this album, helps to appreciate his rhyming genius
@@bobthepoppop highly recommend some 'rhymes highlighted' videos for that
"Figaro" is a good place to start. ruclips.net/video/LnJs0TdVWLQ/видео.html
He is a punchline rapper the bar by itself can be dense but whennu put them all together its not really about anything just about his flow which is still dope but its not like a Kendrick where everything is thought out on a grand scale
this whole albums produced by Madlib and he’s one of the most legendary hip hop producer of all time. He has some great records with Freddie Gibbs that i’m sure you’ll enjoy, Piñata and Bandana.
And soon Montana...
yes Freddie Gibbs
@@atmbcito if it ever drops :/ pretty sure SSS is gonna have madlib production too, excited for that
I would love to his reaction to Uno or Shitsville
@@madebybroovy yeah shitsville and deeper are my favorites from piñata and cataracts is my favorite from Bandana
“Slip like Freudian, your first and last step to playing yourself like accordion.” Always loved that line. Keep up the great reactions!
fucking loveee that bar, so cold and with two bars
pls explain bro
@@spookydascary1376 a freudian slip is like when you accidentally say something, not sure how to explain that but he saying if you slip with what you say, you gon play yourself like an accordion which sometimes plays itself, like when you dangle it or something, and it’ll be the last thing you do hence “first and last” but a lot of wordplay going on in two lines
@@spookydascary1376 to give a further explanation, a Freudian Slip is specifically when you accidentally say something that your subconscious thinks. For instance, telling your girl "I'm going to pick you up at sex o'clock" instead of saying six o'clock.
@@madcap4208 yep, i have an accordion, button not piano, but the same . mostly gravity when playing out with the bellow which is 90% of the time. in you prop it up to in. press a key as it dangle and it will play, i lean more to regional mexican corridos but sam concept. You never need to pull out, just guide your hand as gravity plays and you pull the air switch to do it again
He has an accent because his mom is from Zimbabwe and his dad from Trinadad. He was born in London but moved to NYC early in his life. Just one of the many reasons his voice is so unique. Madlib is also one of the greatest producers of all time. This album remains in my top 5 after over 20 years.
It’s only been out for 19 years
oh damn didnt even know he was part trini fr
vice versa actually his father is the one from zimbabwe
If you think a lot of what DOOM is saying is random, I suggest you listen to the lyricologists lyrical breakdown on accordion. A lot of what he says is obscure references and specific things most won’t understand, but everything he says has a meaning. He is an amazing writer.
Absolutely second this, DOOM has a lot less non sequiturs than people think.
dude his video on Rhinestone Cowboy blew my mind. I thought the 3rd verse was mostly gibberish but it all has meaning if you know the references.
Shoutout to Archie Bell & The Drells
ruclips.net/video/pZ_EdMdhrMo/видео.html
I don't think he was saying that they were random, just that the tracks were a bunch of setups and punchlines vs. a more cohesive story.
Man facts. DOOM is the mos lyrical emcee in the history of hip hop. His lyris are what separates him. His rhymes are by far the most complicated.
Madlib is a classic west coast producer. If you enjoy his style of production, I'd recommend listening to Quasimoto's "The Unseen" and "Yessir Whatever", as well as Freddie Gibbs' "Piñata" and "Bandana". Quasimoto is Madlib's rap alter ego, however it sounds like he's since retired that character. The 2 Freddie Gibbs albums were entirely produced by Madlib, and the chemistry between those two is incredible; the vibe is quite different to "Madvillainy", but Madlib gets to show off his flexibility.
Can't forget about lootpack, madlib's first group.
@@EricEustace bro hityawitdat is one of the funkiest beats ever
The Unseen is a fucking great album.
Quas hasn't been retired, just hasn't really had a chance for an opportunity lately
He definitely needs to listen to Piñata. A top 5
Album for me. Madlib’s production is second to none
HELL YES. Legit a masterpiece of an album, so glad you finally listened to it. MF DOOM defined my teenage years and rap experience, hes my second fav of all time (behind andre 3000)! Thanks bob for the great reaction!!!
MF DOOM all caps when you spell the man's name
@@francolaguzzi9128 my bad bro i was in the backseat with the homies, imma change that 😂
Yo been a big outkast fan and also Andre enjoyer through features, does Andre have any good solo stuff I should be listening to?
@@ezrahaskard3527 nah hes never dropped a solo album (technically the love below but thats still outkast). He has a ton of features tho, my faves r prolly the real her, pink matter, solo reprise, life of the party, rollinem 7s, come home, and wheres the catch.
Once you’ve listened to this a few more times I really recommend you look into the lyrics a little more. Everything means so much more than you originally expect in the way doom raps them. It really gives this album more of a meaning
Yeah, I agree. I feel like there are a lot of layers to settle into with this one. Killer album though, I really enjoyed it
freddie gibbs is freaking fantasic, best pure gangster rapper in the new era, shits just purely great
@@bobthepoppop can you record second reaction???
All caps when you spell the mans name
Watching people listen to accordion for the first time NEVER gets old
My favourite doom song
metal face when rapping, metal fingers when producing
Viktor Vaughn albums are him rapping but not producing
@@JC20XX he raps from Viktor Vaughn’s perspective on Fancy Clown though
@@JC20XXViktor Vaughn is Viktor Vaughn, not MF DOOM
DOOM really liked to play with his Villain persona. You were mentioning watching live perfomances, there were shows where he'd just send a random look a like of him with a mask on and just perform normally and nobody would notice until the dj would cut him off and expose him (i find it pretty hilarious), one of my favourite times was when it turned out to be Hannibal Buress (he's a comedian btw, love him)
The opening lyric of this album is legendary and one of the best in all of hip-hop imo.
"living off borrowed time the clock ticks faster"
This album was definitely monumental in influencing so many underground rappers. What DOOM and Madlib did here has definitely rippled out to the music we hear from Earl, Danny Brown, Open Mike Eagle, Billy Woods, RAP Ferreira, Quelle Chris. List goes on, but this album is definitely an anomaly that is truly a classic imo.
Tyler as well, pretty sure he's said Doom is his favorite rapper and one of his biggest inspirations
There's a reason DOOM is known as your favorite rapper's favorite rapper
Jpegmafia also referenced the beat from Kookies by MF DOOM i think
bless up.
Doom inspired all of Griselda damn near
as a person whose first language is not english the lyrics in this album made sense to me almost a year later after i heard it and still some of it goes over my head thats what makes listening to DOOM so much fun to me cuz im like OOHHHHHHHH YOOOO HOLY SHIT THATS SUCH A FIRE BAR on the 25th time ive heard that same track
im a native english speaker and i experience the same thing
I dont know who told you not to pay much attention to the lyrics but that is literally (imo) the most important part of this album. of course the writing and production of the songs are amazing but DOOM's lyrical and rhyming expertise is what makes his music what it is. great reaction nonetheless, I hope you enjoyed and would massively recommend 'MM...FOOD' by MF DOOM. also an incredible album. Love from the UK.
im a big fan of his (if you couldn't tell by my PP) RIP to the Supervillain.
I thought the lyrics were great (well, his flow I guess), but they're definitely a puzzle to be solved. It made this first listen a real challenge, but I still enjoyed the hell out of it. Great album 🤘
1) I second Mm… Food as the next reaction
2) yes, the rhymes are the most famous aspect of DOOM, but the lyrics themselves cannot be ignored
3) having said that, the production is mind bogglingly good on this
@@bobthepoppop indeed they are a puzzle, I’ve been a fan of the man for years and I still find myself stumbling onto double and sometimes triple entendres I’d never even thought of. A good example would be from a track on the MM…FOOD record where he says “oh shoot! The goose is loose! So wild you couldn’t chase it down with straight fruit juice”. For years I either didn’t pay attention to this bar or just thought of it as random nonsense (as you do with all DOOM lyrics until they click and you feel like an idiot and a genius at the same time), but after many listens I realised he may be referring both to a real goose (for some reason) but he’s definitely talking about grey goose vodka, commenting that it’s so wild you can’t chase it down with anything as it would spoil it. Stuff like this makes DOOM what he is.
Keep rocking Bob. I enjoy your reactions thoroughly!
After listening to DOOM for mad years, I just realized that MF DOOM and MM...FOOD have the same letters, just mixed up...does anyone know if this is by design? It's DOOM after all, so I'm sure NOTHING is coincidental!
Dude dont worry about not having anything to say. Nothing more authentic than your excited facial expresions on the songs, thats an honest reaction. Goat album!!!!!!!
This is a hip-hop classic, very happy you reacted to this Bob
It’s METAL FACE when he’s rapping, METAL FINGERS when he’s producing.
Love to see you enjoyed this. Definitely need to give his other album MM FOOD a listen, I think you would enjoy it more as it’s a more thematic album and it’s my personal fav. Great reaction though 👍🏻
i second the MM FOOD recommendation. I also feel like Vaudeville Villain goes under a lot of peoples’ radars
MM..FOOD is also great but I feel like Take Me To Your Leader doesn’t get enough love
@@gustavdemars8148 man they’re all so great
DOOM is my favorite rapper, he actually is saying a lot in this album but it is difficult to decipher so your decision to focus on the music was a good one because Madlib is one of the greatest producers of all time. Like you said DOOM is named after the marvel villian Dr Doom but his mom was the one who called him that cause him and his brother were always reading comics. Before DOOM was DOOM he and his brother DJ Subroc had a rap group called KMD that was on the come up in the early 90s but in 93 Subroc died and the record company canceled their upcoming album, which lead to DOOM to become homeless. He became resentful to the rap industry for pushing him aside and decided to become the villian of rap and take over the culture as MF DOOM (the MF stands for Metal Face when he raps and Metal Fingers when he produces). I suggest you listen to his first album as MF DOOM Doomsday or my personal favorite album Mm Food next.
And when I say he is saying a lot i mean he goes through a lot of topics but doesn't dive too deep into them but each line connects to one another.
Genius comment
All FACTS
MF DOOM was an amazing rhymer (as he said) and producer. He went under Metal Fingers (still MF lol) as a producer. He has many volumes of instrumentals that have since been bundled together. Most of his music can be streamed but not all likely due to licensing and with all the samples he used. Viktor Vaughn, King Geedorah and even just DOOM. Then there's all his collab stuff. Madvillain is DOOM + Madlib but you have JJ DOOM, NehruvianDOOM, Czarface, Danger DOOM, etc. That's excluding his first group with his friend and brother called KMD. He was known as Zev Love X back then. They were about to release their second album when his brother was killed, hit by a car that drove off, iirc. They were then dropped by the label and the album shelved. After that he ended up homeless and drinking. It took years but he returned as MF DOOM and most didn't know of him at all but when they heard his demos, they were interested but no one knew who he was. A true Super Villain who returned to get his revenge on the industry.... On the world! He played into the role so well. And btw, DOOM also comes from Dumile. His real name. Dum is pronounced like DOOM.... And if you haven't noticed, ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MAN'S NAME!
What happened early in his life really blows me away. It's so easy to glance at his persona and think it's some kind of gimmick for showmanship, but he really did make it a personality in his art. Learning about him and his brother and everything that happened make me feel a little badly about my MF joke to be honest. I have a lot of respect for the guy.
Don't forget the work he's done with MF GRIMM
I really enjoyed that reaction brother.
With DOOM, you definitely need to just listen and enjoy, don't think too much.
His songs are just made for you to feel good and relax!
Earned yourself a new subscriber man :)
I highly recommend another album Madlib did with Freddie Gibbs called Pinata. It's a classic!
I've been interested in Freddie Gibbs to begin with. Knowing Madlib is involved ups that interest a lot more 👍
@@bobthepoppop Freddie Gibbs is the way to go man piñata is 10/10
Oh man Piñata and Bandana are both in my top 10 rap albums of the 2010s
Gibbs a GOAT fr
Undeniable gangsta rap classic
For some reason this album makes me nostalgic for watching late night adult swim in the early-mid 2000s (I guess maybe because the transitions and old cartoon samples feel kinda like flipping through the channels and DOOM would later go on to work with AS quite a bit)
it has always of reminded me of the aesthetics of the old late 80s to early 90s batman films
You got me thinking what if Bob reacted to I'll try living like this
whats the album in ur pfp?
Based pfp, I need him to react to the shroud
@@eternal4074 Its honestly cool to see how many people who watch the channel have recognized it on the last few videos since dds are not the most popular group in the world but super underrated & talented imo 👌
Fancy clown being written from MF DOOM’s alter ego is just great
DOOM fucking his alter egos girl and his alter ego writing a diss will never not be funny to me
No its viktor vaughn
@@korontos9038 viktor vaughn is his alter ego buddy
@@akselkildentoft1065 REALLY ??????? i can't believe this is happening rn my WHOLE life was a lie
@@korontos9038 who did you think V was lol?😃
I always feel like I’m literally in a comic book every time I listen to it. It’s always an experience. DOOMS rhyme scheme is iconic and madlib might be the best rap producer of all time defintely top 5.
It should be noted even though it looked like you thoroughly enjoyed it on your first listen, going back to this album is always rewarding. I’ll admit when I first listened to it I thought it was a very mediocre album but something compelled me to keep listening and every re listen made me fall more and more in love with it. It quickly became a top 3 hip-hop album for me
Why you got his damm face as your profile pic. That's fucked up
SO HYPED FOR THIS. My favorite artist and album of all time period. So much influence over the genre or hiphop. Spotify tells me Im in the 1% of MFDoom listeners the past couple years. Id love to get on the community convos series and speak to you about how this artist changed my life!
For DOOM it’s more about the word play and rhyme schemes than content or flow
I recommend the RUclips channel “Highlighted” they break down his schemes visually pretty well
Glad you reacted to this! Great stuff!
you totally should have read into fancy clown more, hes not talking about his girl cheating then him cheating, hes talking from the point of view of his "alter ego" viktor vaughn. Hes talking about how his gf is cheating on him with MF DOOM. Hes telling a story of him as viktor vaughn being upset about this guy MF DOOM, who is also him stealing his girl.
viktor is a different character
Wanted to say before even watching the vid, til this DAY there are still lyrics I deceiver in DOOM's music and I've been listening to him for years, I seen you said in a comment about some of his lyrics going over your head, dont worry the joy comes from going over and over these tracks to really stir on them. Gonna watch the reaction now.
I was waiting for this one. Definitely one of my personal favorite albums of all time, masterpiece. ALL CAPS FOREVER.
You are so good at explaining complex, subjective things that are difficult to explain. Things that might not objectively "make sense", but we can easily grasp the feeling or vision you're trying to get across. Love the content and am excited to see your stuff evolve :)
Bob is one of the best RUclipsrs ever no cap
I recommend Piñata by Freddie Gibbs. it’s also a colab album with Madlib (the producer for this album) and it’s awesome. A lot of people consider it to be one of the best albums of the decade with great beats/production and awesome rapping
2014* not decade. lmfao.
@@KobeLoverTatum wasn't it 2016? And i don't think decade is unreasonable
@@rhysdenno5993 it was '14
You should also do Outkast at some point, favourite rap duo of all time.
Also, his lyrics do have meaning it's just that they're very abstract and hard to understand. You should watch videos of his lyrics with the rhymes highlighted. It's insane how many internal rhymes he can fit in a sentence, few rappers can use words the way he does
I’m interested to see what become your fav tracks from this album cause a lot of people have different favourites. Mine are Curls and Great Day
One thing this party could use is more... booze
I love raid
Rhinestone Cowboy is my personal fave
I love Figaro, raid, bistro and rhinestone cowboy
Is it okay that mine's are all caps?
I love this album so hard. The song Eye is so incredibly pleasant.
grizzlies in 6
@@shoreZ HAHA
Glad u listened to this! Great vid! It’s regarded as one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time! A couple of thoughts I had. One it could be both a not lyric listen album and a really listen to DOOM has very complex rhyme schemes ( there some RUclips vids on it) and he also speaks in many metaphors& figures of speech. There’s also many layers to DOOM as person and artist once u get more into him with his many alter egos and what he’s trying to portray. Another is that this is a collab album with producer madlib, he has really good stuff and this is kinda his style. ( Highly recommend piñata with Freddie Gibbs and Madlib, one of my fav albums ever) Glad u found some of the references and meanings behind the music and lyrics. Ur channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites cuz u always try to look for the best in the music and even notice stuff I don’t notice as an avid listener of hip hop. Ur also very entertaining believe it or not lmao. Those are my thoughts sorry for the long ass comment but thanks
Love the long comments, man, thank you 😊
I recommend XXX by Danny Brown, Extremely visceral, personal and hilarious along with so many words that come to mind.. youll be absolutely floored by this album!!
Fun fact about « Great Day »: Madlib plays himself the sample on his rhodes
Madlib is a multi-instrumentalist producer, he released several jazz albums where he played all the instruments. This guy is a genius.
I highly recommend you add Gza-Liquid Swords to your list. He’s a wu-tang clan member but this solo album has a similar theme to MadVillany but related to Samurais.
I agree you listen to this one eventually, but id recommend you listen to Wu-Tang’s group material first, specifically enter the 36 chambers
@@benlarson795 Agreed! Start with Enter the 36 Chambers. It will be different than what he is typically likes but it’s such a great album that he should appreciate it.
liquid swords is absolutely one of my favourite albums and solidifies RZAs claim as the GOAT
that's a 10/10 album, no skips at all
Liquid swords is nothing like madvillainy lol wtf
so ever since I got covid about 3 days ago I have not been able to do very much. I would like to send my appreciation and respect for you to actually take your time with each album you listen to and actually listen to the words and give your thoughts on everything. I personally have already listened to all the albums you have reviewed BUT I love going back and listening in full each album and you make that so much more enjoyable. Thank you very much for your content. Keep it up! Hope to see more in the future.
Sorry to hear about your Covid bout. Hope you're doing okay. I think I have it too. Hopefully I can get tested today (all my symptoms are mild)
I think with DOOM it’s less about the *meaning* of the words (though there much of it, as others point out) and more about the *art* of the words. Forces you to listen to lyrics for the sake of the musicality and rhythm in language, rather than it’s ability to represent ideas.
OMG im so happy you did this. Madvillainy is one of my favorite albums ever and just a few days ago I went through your channel to see if you ever did a reaction. Thank you!!
This is probably my favorite hip-hop album period. For live performances, going back a few weeks, I strongly reccomend checking out the Colors performance of JPEGMafia's Thug Tears.
I did watch that one. Pretty damn incredible
@@bobthepoppop You should also check out Kanye performing Stronger and Hey Mama at the Grammys. ruclips.net/video/7gHisR4xmOk/видео.html
I’m glad you liked the Samples and beats on this . That is all Madlib , in my opinion a top 3 producer , I would love if you could see his other work , He produced Freddie Gibbs “piñata” and “Bandana” , I think you would like Both
If I could compare DOOM to anything it's jazz legends like Charlie Parker or Coltrane.
To me bebop solos have the same appeal as DOOM's bars. Less open minded listeners might think it's random chaotic sounds, but looking deeper into it there is a structure, references, licks and all connected to the rhythm and harmony.
Thank you for checking out this monument of music! You won't have to "get" it all at once, come back to it enjoy the beats and sound of DOOMS soloing, if lyrics stand out try to dig deeper.
To me his music is timeless and I can always come back and find something new in this music.
W comment DOOM is brilliant the greatest of all time and my favorite rapper is Kendrick but DOOM is the most talented I’ve ever heard
K.dot is definitely up there for me as well. He's like a Miles Davis, keeping up with the times always changing. Deep roots and connections with the OGs and somewhat mysterious ( I hope this year's drop of Kendrick will be fresh or cinematic as previous projects ).
Also
Top of the morning top of the morning top of the morning top of the morning, let's get this shit!
@@LevelH34D bro couldn’t agree more kendrick don’t get the respect he deserves from like casual rap fans dude is an absolute legend and no current rapper comes close to him
@@jackdriggers4413 I don't think he's not respected in general. Kendrick Lamar is HIGHLY respected among everyone who even slightly comes across him tbh.
It's just at the moment not as visible due to the lack of a new album.
Once he drops a new LP you'll see everyone raving about him again.
You need to react to some Clipping for sure. I’m sure you would love their production. Love your videos man!
why is doom so great is because he is trying to do four things at once, he is trying to stay in character, he is trying to stay within the theme of the song, he is trying to fill in as many rhymes as possible and on top of all that he is trying to be funny as well, which is crazy, its like you are watching the greatest juggling act performed on a balancing wire.
you hit the nail on the head, man
Remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name!
You're love and excitement for music brings smiles to the rest of us music boobs. Reactions like this, from people such as yourself...make me experience a sense of comradery with the outside world, than I would otherwise. I don't know. Just know this video put me in a better place for the time being.
You really respecting Sickfit (instrumental track) was intended to be rapped on by DOOM, but he said the beat was too good that any lyrics would do it an injustice. A real testament to how Madlib can carry an album.
I thought all of the instrumentals stood well on their own. Great shit 🤘
haven’t watched yet but from your previous reactions i think it’d be a much better experience for you by reading the annotations. excited for this one as it’s one of my favorite albums of off time!
This album actually has an orchestrated version! That's right, A full blown orchestra released two albums of covers of songs from Madvillain. They even got DOOM himself to feature on an original closing track! They're my go to albums for studying.
bro WHAT
@@yaboi3339 if you want to check them out their name is “Abstract Orchestra”. They’re amazing
Abstract orchestra is amazing. Their "operation lifesaver" cover is genuinely one of my favourite songs
This is one of my favorite albums of all time! Madlib is the greatest hip hop producer ever. Awesome vid 👌🏾
I feel like you gotta revisit this one in a personal setting with just you, your headphones and the music. Also look up the references he’s making if you’re not familiar. He’s telling dope, funny stories and is trying to get you to peep the insanity of it, all while bobbin ya head and laughing. Doom has a HUGE cult following for a reason my guy.👍🏿 HE’S A VILLAIN
The description of the sound and what that opens up for images in your mind is so on point...it shows me that you have completely dig this album. It's a pretty accurate description of the All Caps music video. Even with the big coat.
"It reminds my of movies from the 70s, that I've never seen". Dude, you nailed it! I feel that all the time listening to DOOM. Through sound, he can paint a psychedelic, vintage scenario that is clear as day. When it comes down to breaking down his lyrics, you can go through a whole other rabbit hole. Everything is a double entendre
"Operation: Lifesaver" very much has a story. It's a very coded story about walking up to a girl with bad breath. The context is interwoven with the lyrics. He drops you into a moment in the club where you lean into a girl to talk louder, then "wow, she caught me off guard, went to breath out, etc..." Doom is the most literary rapper in the sense that it's more rewarding the more you have a foundation of general literature, both music and hip hop history, and the black experience to understand his specific references, but also his use of different writing techniques to both obfuscate and clarify his very adhd comic book way of presenting life's various experiences.
If you want to listen to more of the guy who produced this album, Madlib, listen to The Unseen by Quasimoto. The samples on that album are even crazier and more out of this world, and the rapping is also done by Madlib, both as himself and his high pitched alter ego, Lord Quas. Him and DOOM are kindred spirits and Madvillainy is undoubtedly one of the best rap releases ever
I realy love and appreciate how you started to visualize the scenes and images in your head. MF DOOM truly is a painter that uses words, really cinematic with the beats and moods. He literally builds sound textures.
you HAVE TO react to Quasimoto's "The Unseen". If you delve deep into this part of rap and hiphop, you'll sure be amazed by the new worlds and planescapes these dudes crafted masterfully
DOOM is one of those guys that's hard to appreciate unless you have listened to a ton of hip, or maybe even dabbled in writing yourself for a few years. It's almost like it's less about what he is, and more about what he's not. He's your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. He's the villain. It's almost like he's trying to make unenjoyable music, that you can't help but enjoy. Kinda reminds me of Charles Mingus in the old jazz scene. He's definitely a weird dude, but, it's hard not to love him. He's just so left field, yet still technical as hell doing it.
If it ever clicks, it's just a ton of fun to listen to though.
Edit: I do think you're getting it more as the listening goes on though. "It's a reminder that playing is fun". Fun to watch man. Sometimes just reading the lyrics aloud to yourself to see how weird they feel is enjoyable with DOOM.
I will say, I agree that they're not "saying" alot, in that they're not solving life's mysteries, but, from Rap's sort of unique definition of lyricism, they're super technical. There's a really great video of Mos Def (one of the greatest rap lyricst of all time) just appreciating DOOM, with a great quote in it "He rhymes as weird as I feel", even to the greats his style is just so damn hard to duplicate. So, sure, you can gloss over the lyrics in a sense, but, they really are there to be appreciated as well, not for their context or content per se, but for their mechanics.
Also really interesting closing thoughts, I wouldn't really use DOOM as an intro, only because, it's not really what Hip Hop sounds like usually. I've always used The Roots, or Tribe Called Quest as they blend in more natural musical elements while still being close to the pinnacle of the genre. They explain the elements of hip hop more clearly I think, but, DOOM isn't too far behind, as yeah, he kinda shows how zany the genre can be as well. I think you were at the perfect point to get a glimpse at DOOM, and the weirder side of really technical rhymers.
God, this brings me back to when i first listened to Madvillainy. My older brother sat me down, and said "try to figure out whats different with this album." We had grown up with classic boom-bap, typical rhyme flow, and he just blew me out of the water with the way DOOM spoke. Rhyming within his own lines, crazy snares, we couldn't get enough. Keep it up. Loving your work.
Look up his rhyme patterns especially Figaro
it's really mind-blowing
+100 Bob if you see this, here’s the rhyme scheme visualizer: ruclips.net/video/LnJs0TdVWLQ/видео.html
I was kinda sad when he didn’t react to crazy internal rhyme part in Figaro
This is really cool to see, but it's still so way over my head 😂 I still have A LOT to learn when it comes to understanding these intricacies. BUT... this album will definitely help me learn more
@@bobthepoppop Haha I hear you. I still don't understand it that well, though I think I can appreciate it pretty well. I.e. I know *that* I like it though I don't know exactly *why* I like it.
I often wish that I had an on/off switch for my ability to understand English, so that I could flip it off and purely soak in the sound and feeling of the language without concerning myself with its meaning.
Really like this video and the advice to focus on the musicality was definitely spot on for your first listen. The music really builds a visual settings and allows your imagination to run wild with vivd images. However, that only sets the canvas for the story. As you give the album more listens, I suggest that you focus more on the lyrics and how they interact with the music. The lyrics also paint their own picture, and combined with the music, makes the album an “auditory film” rather than a record. The more you listen, the more you’ll be able to catch and appreciate. Overall, I’m glad you’ve been able to enjoy this album as many of us have, and hope you get to enjoy even more of DOOM’s discography.
P.S. If you’re a fan of hash, I can highly suggest it this album and most of DOOMs work lol
I had the same reaction at first, wasn't sure how I felt about the rhymes because like you said it's a ton to handle. I stuck around for the dope beats and really listened to what he's saying it's really incredible. I think mm..food is his best album by far. It uses food analogies for every song and is more relatable to the average person I think.
Edit: also a neat fact they both pretty much just hung out ate mushrooms and smoked mad weed and just made this. No planning or nothing just effortless creativity, thats what makes this one of the best hip hop tapes out there. A real sonic painting
33:38 I spent two full years loving this album and listening to it non-stop. I never noticed this until you mentioned it. Its such a key sound that the beat needs but you don't normally acknowledge.
He was born in London, moved to NY at a young age so he grew up there. One time touring outside the US he returned to find out he wasn't allowed back in. He was technically illegal and he ended up moving to London, if I recall right. Which is insane because I live here. I wish I got to see him perform at some point.
yess, was really looking forward to your reaction on this one as it's my favourite album of all time
there's a really good performance of Figaro by DOOM with the Robert Glasber Experience
OH SHIT HE DID IT. Excited to watch.
Easily one of the greatest albums of all time here.
Been with you awhile, dont comment often, but felt it was necessary for this one since it my favorite album of all time. Just wanted to say that I love the content and to keep doing your shit bro.
This album includes the beats of madlib he's also a rapper with alter ego's. check out the producers as well on these albums. like who produced the track or tracks
Awesome Episode!! You got to do something with Cypress hill next! Maby black sunday or Tempels of boom
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@@bobthepoppopGot Dam it! The vido is blocked in my country!!
1st Few times listening to a MF DOOM album: There isn't really anything here to grasp..
3-6 times listening to a MF DOOM album: Ah ok I'm catching a few lines here and there this guy is so creative
20th time listening to a MF DOOM album: hmmm "Crime pays, no dental nor medical.. Unless you catch retirement County, state, or federal" .. genius.
46th time listening to a MF DOOM album: ...FOOD!?
MF Doom is Ph.D. level lyricism. You really have to know your hip hop slang and history. He has a simple flow, but his bars often pack a bunch of dual meanings and symbolism. Part of the fun of Doom is decoding what he is saying.
It's really cool to see how much you appreciate it I really like it, my favorite track is Figaro and I think it was actually the first song I heard from DOOM and it made me listen to him.
Awesome video, I would love to see you react to Mm...food as well, or DANGERDOOM, both great albums.
awesome, so glad you got around to this! you are dead on when it comes to the "playfulness" that comes with this album, and Mablib's production is incredible.
for an album like this and a rapper like doom, it's hard if not impossible to take everything in on a first listen. there's just a lot going on. there's nothing wrong with the way you approached it because of that, and i do think later in the album you seemed to be getting a better feel for doom as a rapper. that being said, i think anyone who was telling you to ignore the lyrics was doing you a disservice. doom as a rapper is as impressive as mablib as a producer. when people say he isn't really rapping about anything or not to look too deep into it, the idea is more that there usually isn't a strong overarching narrative for any particular song, not that the lyrics aren't worth paying attention to. doom as a lyricist isn't really telling a story, he's putting together a mosaic. individual lines or groups of lines are often super clever and the fun is in piecing it together, and appreciating how complex the structure of the rhymes are as he does it.
every song has 30 examples of how he's doing this, the opening line on Money Folder for instance "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, After you who's last? It's doom, he's the worst known". Doom takes the biblical saying "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and says that he will be the one who throws the very last stone, meaning that he is the worst sinner. the line is just a clever way to emphasize his supervillain character and say that he's a badass which is why people were telling you not to read too deep into the lyrics on the album, but the fun of it is trying to put together all these clever lines that together paint the picture of who doom is. interpreting a doom song is like putting together a puzzle.
hope this doesn't come across as critical at all, enjoyed the reaction and like i said it's impossible even for people very familiar with hip hop to take everything in the first time they listen to doom. just wanted to put some of that out there in case you come back to him in the future, which you absolutely should!
I was literally just thinking about commenting on your last video to react to MF DOOM this is awesome.
Bob, I really really hope that you are able to do this full time some day. I’ve been showing tons of my friends your channel and they all love you. 100% my favourite youtuber rn. You got real fans out here my man 💯 Seeing you genuinely enjoy what you’re doing is awesome.
I hope so too. For now, I can't quite pull it off, but we'll see where this year takes us, man. Ya never know... and thanks for the kind words and showing your friends!
@@bobthepoppop In a year you’ll have 10 times the audience you do now, I can guarantee it. Your growth so far has been incredible. You’re almost at 50k, you’ll be at 100k by summer.
Now I have to thank you for showing me something I hadn’t noticed before in this masterpiece Madvilliany. At 45:00 you talked about the sample at the end of Strange Ways how it seems to represent the military industrial complex? Genius my friend, 17 years and hadn’t noticed that one before. Thanks again. RIP TO THE BEST MC WITH NO CHAIN YOU EVER HEARD
Love this album. If you wanted to dig deeper into MF DOOM I'd say check out MM..FOOD. In my opinion it's his best album but all of them are so great. RIP DOOM
This is the first video i’ve seen on your channel and im amazed by how you reacted because you described it almost perfectly how i feel about it and that got me really entertained and invested into the video, good job! i’ll definately check out some more content of yours,,,,, also if you dig that kinda gritty lofi sound i strongly suggest you to check out Standing On The Corner’s LP titled ”Red Burns” . they are an amazing experimental improv-ish hiphop group from New York, would love to see your take on it!
If you enjoy this you gotta check out Vaudeville Villain by Viktor Vaughn (DOOM's other alter-ego). Becoming a fan of DOOM leads you down a long and incredible hole where you just want to dig deeper and deeper. RIP Dumile!
Great review! Favorite songs for me off this album are accordion, meat grinder, and figaro. Excited for the additional thoughts.
I'm really interested to see your opinion on earl sweatshirt, he's really inspired by MF DOOM but his voice is much more calm and his lyrics more resemble poetry
his album some rap songs is also nicknamed "Sadvillainy"
gotta do his older albums before some rap songs tho, especially idlsidgo
i pray he just gets to the best stuff first n starts w Some Rap Songs. earls earlier shi is still great but i think srs easily his best n most important
@@maximilianmiller1963 def not easily his best i much prefer idlsidgo and i know that cant be an unpopular opinion
@@blackmana IDLSIDGO is a great starter album but i feel like SICK! is a better introduction into his newer SRS-FOC sound / style
Hey Bob, loved the reaction. Madlib's production is GOAT status. The persona of MF DOOM is based off the marvel comic book villain dr. doom, so the whole album is meant to have an almost "cartoonish" feel. One thing I would say about his lyrics is not to write them off so fast. It might seem like simple free association but when you break it down and are able to follow (granted DOOM's tongue twister rhymes schemes make this very difficult) it unlocks a whole new layer of the album. The pictures come alive in my head
Yo Bob if you want more Madlib production with lyrics you could really analyze check out “Piñata” by Freddie Gibbs and Madlib. You won’t regret it‼️
I'm excited to experience this album for the first time with you! I've only heard one or two of this guys songs before, but I've been meaning to check it out. 👍🏼
I've been listening to this album for years and you always find something you missed the first 5000 times. DOOM codes his bars so when you finally understand what he means, what's he's saying....it blows your mind with how genius it is. Madlib did all of the beats. DOOM was on rhymes. Just a phenomenal album
DOOM was so special because even after listening to him forever, there are still some bars that I barely catch now. Great video bob! long live Daniel Dumile
Just got the album on vinyl last night. One of the best albums of all time in my opinion. Top tier lyricism. One of the best produced albums ever. Song after song has something to unpack. Might not even be my favorite DOOM album sometimes cause MM…FOOD is just as great in my opinion. Madvillainy is just a Goliath release for hip hop though,especially the experimental side of it
I'm jealous, 'that Madvillain album art is just mint, its simple yet menacing and enigmatic. Would buy the vinyl just for the art cover
great review and insight! i always enjoy watching people react to madvillan for the first time, this album and subsequent works by DOOM and Madlib really shaped my taste in music. if you enjoyed this i highly highly recommend an album called "the unseen" under one of Madlib's alias "Quasimoto". This is one of the few albums where madlib raps and produces all the beats. like this album its light hearted, recorded in high fidelity, and ground breaking all at the same time.
Damn imagine saying for DOOM of all people that he's not saying much with his lyrics. Probably the rapper that says the most with the least.
I'm SAYING BRO, WHAT THEY LISTENING TO??? 😂
Glad you finally got to this. When I first listened to doom years back in my late teens, a lot of the lyrics went over my head. Every year since then I've been understanding the lyrics as I got older. He takes some getting used to on first listen but once you get the schemes and layered meanings, those moments stick with you. I always get excited to rap along with the lyrics once I understood em. Some of his slang references are so removed from Hip-Hop culture that I even end up learning a thing or two after some googling. 😅
Great reaction! One good thing that I am seeing is that you are starting to let go of the expectation that every song/album is "supposed" to have some sort of linear story. As I'm sure you've discovered so far, that's rarely how hip hop lyrics are written. An album like this or Reasonable Doubt especially is more abstract in nature than a story-- you're taking in imagery and interpreting it, not following a narrative. You may not have a linear story in your head at the end of the album, but you certainly have a very clear picture of who this person is, how they write, and whatever else they wanted to show you. Think about it as poetry more so than lyrics. You don't search for some sort of concrete narrative in an Emily Dickinson poem. Just something to think about, as I feel that letting go of that expectation would aid greatly in helping you enjoy albums like this one, Reasonable Doubt, Die Lit, etc.
Love to see the Connor shout-out. I had a feeling that there's a large audience crossover between this channel and TtT
I wish I could experince MF Doom for the first time again, I feel such nostalgia for that era of my life and underground rap with doom and Quasimoto