The Never Widely Released Update For Super Smash Bros. Melee

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • This video will be showing off every buff, nerf and change in the PAL version of Melee.
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  • @ZachHonest
    @ZachHonest  Год назад +14

    The editing took me a minute on this one (it was worth it tho), Thank you guys for supporting the content, I do this for you guys, so enjoy!!
    Also Yea, Yoshi got buffed, I know right. crazy
    cough cough* Patreon Down Below too, a Melee Donkey Kong Video will be on there...

  • @Nikkerman
    @Nikkerman Год назад +66

    There's an alternate reality where pal is the main game and AMSA is the GOAT having won the most tournaments ever

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Год назад +24

    The funniest thing is Brawl (the game that needed balance patches the most) was the only Smash game to not receive balance changes due to the addition of online play and Wii games being unable to receive patches.

    • @pepekong
      @pepekong Год назад +1

      I remember something about Skyward Sword having a bug that deleted saves and there was some sort of update for it, don't know if that counts.

    • @SonicTheCutehog
      @SonicTheCutehog Год назад +1

      @@pepekong It was an entire channel called the "Skyward Sword Save Update" Channel that would patch the bug if it happened since they couldn't manually patch Wii games.

  • @the_bookworm8281
    @the_bookworm8281 Год назад +20

    The changes to PAL version is a rather interesting case study. Theoretically it seems better to pick the version of the game that buffs with bottom two (Kirby, Bowser), nerfs the top tiers, and gives out numerous bug fixes, which all denotes a better balanced and polished game. However since the overall game balance ended up barely changing at all, and Melee's meta is very centralized around the top tiers to the point where most of the Melee playerbase mains them, most of the playerbase will end up playing a less fun version of their character while the overall game balance remains fairly identical, which ends up making the switch to PAL not very worth it.
    There are two interesting tidbits about the PAL version of Melee related to future games:
    1) Mario's weight got nerfed from 100 -> 98 in the PAL version of the game. However the interesting thing about this is that Mario's weight in every single Smash game after Melee, which is still the case to this day with Ultimate, remains at 98.
    2) The late hit of Falco's down air having the spike/meteor smash removed is funnily enough completely retained for Falco's down air in Brawl.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  Год назад +7

      Good points I didn't know Mario kept the same weight every game lol. 98 is Mario's lucky number

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball Год назад +5

    Ganon's double jab with bunny hood was fixed in 1.02, not PAL.

  • @DylanYoshi
    @DylanYoshi Год назад +5

    Good to know that Smash's balance patch philosophy hasn't changed since 2002.

  • @THP22342
    @THP22342 Год назад +6

    bro the editing is so good on this, jeeeeezz honest

    • @JDLupus
      @JDLupus Год назад +2

      SS-tier video creator.

  • @jameslisterthemarthplayer8322
    @jameslisterthemarthplayer8322 Год назад +8

    As someone who plays the PAL version, my main in Melee is Marth, despite his nerfs in the PAL version. Though they don’t nerf him too much.

  • @nikc101
    @nikc101 Год назад +3

    Kirby’s changes here are equivalent to smash ult patches, mostly - good things but fail to address the point

  • @MorphBall1
    @MorphBall1 Год назад +4

    The reason people play the NTSC version is because that's what they are used to.

  • @VinnytotheK
    @VinnytotheK Год назад +10

    Marth's poor downair :(

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana Год назад +8

    aMSa could've become better if PAL Yoshi was in NTSC

  • @Monhamd1000
    @Monhamd1000 Год назад +14

    The PAL Melee was the early Brawl to me.

  • @Telcontar86
    @Telcontar86 Год назад +2

    Falco's pillar combos are harder to do and you have to time his dair? Sheik can't down throw most of the cast into oblivion?
    Oh no! Anyways

  • @TheGinggercat
    @TheGinggercat Год назад +9

    This has now made me realise why I'm not a fan of melee, it all makes sense, power of Britain 🇬🇧

  • @eddiestilll
    @eddiestilll Год назад +1

    i wonder how diff the game felt when EU competitors came to NA and played on quite a diff game...

  • @isucc724
    @isucc724 Год назад +1

    if you need another example of people not moving onto a new version of their game, you also have street fighter 2
    HD remix and the final challengers are there but people still play super turbo

    • @theobserver4214
      @theobserver4214 Год назад

      The problem is both new versions have several flaws in them that ST doesn’t have.

  • @SquattingxBear
    @SquattingxBear Год назад +7

    If you think about it, Melee has had many updates over it's lifespan:
    V1.00
    V1.01
    V1.02
    PAL
    SD Remix
    Anther's
    20XX TE
    UCF
    Akaneia
    Uncle Punch
    Slippi
    Final Melee 1.03

    • @Brob2nd
      @Brob2nd 9 месяцев назад

      What's Anther's?

  • @jameslisterthemarthplayer8322
    @jameslisterthemarthplayer8322 Год назад +1

    Also, should I mention that despite his nerfs, Marth is theoretically superior in the PAL version of Melee, but not many PAL players main Marth, and I’m one of those few PAL region Marth mains.

  • @andrescube64
    @andrescube64 Год назад +1

    I wonder why most high tiers are really light?

  • @legendarysoil1064
    @legendarysoil1064 Год назад +6

    Bloom4eva is one of my favourite top players. His mii brawler/bayonetta mix is a pretty unique and cool character mashup to use

  • @equinox3861
    @equinox3861 Год назад +2

    This video is misleading because several of those changes are in NTSC 1.02 (the standard in NA) and stayed the same in the PAL version.

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 Год назад

    Given that you brought it up I do indeed like the sound of your voice

  • @MeesterTweester
    @MeesterTweester Год назад +1

    Imagine if they rerelease Melee and it's only the PAL version

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 Год назад

    What's the Ice Climbers on Fire glitch?

  • @dreadedpatrick9876
    @dreadedpatrick9876 Год назад +9

    keep the nerfs to the characters in top 5 and i'll sell my soul to this game

  • @E-Brightvoid
    @E-Brightvoid Год назад

    Sad Luigi noises

  • @Lagoon7
    @Lagoon7 Год назад +3

    we need pal but only for fox, Kirby, bowser

  • @potatostuffing5643
    @potatostuffing5643 Год назад

    I kind of wish that they went with another PAL version that buffed characters like Roy or Link or many others while nerfing more good characters while removing more game breaking stuff.

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 5 месяцев назад

      Or just make a patch that buffs all the low tiers and remove the glitches like the freeze glitch or invisible ceiling

  • @sophietwilight5051
    @sophietwilight5051 Год назад +2

    always wondered why not PAL. but hearing the changes outside of Fox. this actually makes the game seem less fun for everyone besides Yoshi players.

  • @youngleydelton-of1nv
    @youngleydelton-of1nv Год назад +3

    Kool

  • @HeDronHeDronHedron
    @HeDronHeDronHedron 11 месяцев назад

    Melee: Sibling 1 gets a cookie, and sibling 2 gets nothing
    Pal: Sibling 1 gets nothing as well. Problem solved!
    Pal players: what is wrong with this balance patch why not played?

  • @X-zz6jm
    @X-zz6jm Год назад +8

    Why Ganondorf? Of all people, why nerf Ganondorf? And why the heck did they decide to buff that annoying green dinosaur of all people? This fat green animal has super armor in his 2nd jump! He's already eating at the buffet! And they decide to feed him more.

    • @SuperShado101
      @SuperShado101 Год назад +2

      ganon is op for casuals lol. basically a more usable falcon

  • @legbot124
    @legbot124 Год назад

    aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi

  • @jamalsherefjr6572
    @jamalsherefjr6572 Год назад +4

    you forgot about puff. she got no changes all.

    • @emilyharrison5109
      @emilyharrison5109 Год назад +4

      I mean I wouldn't say "he forgot" why list a character that got no changes. He didn't list Luigi either, but theres no point of mentioning that, they just got no changes.

    • @jamalsherefjr6572
      @jamalsherefjr6572 Год назад +1

      @@emilyharrison5109 yea true

  • @dustcutter98
    @dustcutter98 Год назад +1

    you gotta stop saying "base knockback growth" when talking about base knockback, it's like the opposite of what base knockback is.
    Knockback growth (KBG) is how much a move's knockback scales with %. Base knockback (BKB) is how far the move sends at 0%. Adding "growth" to base knockback is like mixing the two and doesn't make sense
    good video altogether tho, this just bugged me lol

  • @Honeybread-ox5ho
    @Honeybread-ox5ho Год назад +5

    Repent and trust in Jesus you will be saved

  • @fleetforall
    @fleetforall Год назад

    I honestly dislike melee, but it looks fun.

  • @beanpotatoreviews184
    @beanpotatoreviews184 Год назад +3

    Is this real?

    • @VinnytotheK
      @VinnytotheK Год назад +6

      Yes just like the One Piece, this is real!

    • @SS2Balls
      @SS2Balls Год назад +6

      @@VinnytotheK 😱😱😱

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  Год назад +3

      No this fake

  • @Agent7300
    @Agent7300 Год назад

    PAL sucks. so glad its not what we play.