This is why i love batman's code in batman begins: I am not going to kill you but i don't have to save you. In the dark knight he saved joker because if he didn't he would've killed him. It's really flustrating when joker would've died from his fault or killed by someone else and batman went out of his way to save him.
I've actually been thinking about this all day, Batman has gone out of his way and risked his own life to save Joker. Yet, he never tries to the same extent with other characters, Batman apparently gust can't let the Joker go.
its probably because he knows if he kills the joker he'll go insane and become a villain like him, but with pretty much anyone else, they can die and nothingll go wrong
Do you know what the cruel irony is? If Owlman’s theory about the DC multiverse is to believed, that for every decision a character makes, in some alternate reality they made the opposite choice; every time Batman saves The Joker, another Batman let’s The Joker die.
I'm really surprised Commissioner Gordon never did it. Joker paralysed and sexually assaulted his daughter (The Killing Joke). No one in Gotham would reprimand him. The worst thing that might happen was he is asked to retire early to save face. If anyone should kill the Joker, it should be Jim.
Personally, I can forgive Batman for not killing Joker, after all, I think he does the right thing by handing him to the Justice System to deal with him, keep in mind I think Joker SHOULD die. But his fate is often decided by the people of Gotham, via jury's and judges. HOWEVER, saving the Joker's life is WAY TO FAR, and is something that is totally INSANE for Batman to do.
I agree, its understandable why he won't just kill him fair enough but to save him?!? Like are you completely MAD!? I'm talking about the time in Arkham Origins, like why?
@@vgdrent2852 I agree, saving the Joker is like killing his victims yourself to me, also I don't think Batman is really all that sane anyway so I believe he would do something like that lol
@@vgdrent2852 best guess I can come up with is he wanted him alive in case there were anymore tricks he hid around Gotham he could reveal to the GCPD. A plan that absolutely had no long term repercussions. By the way, Barbara's spine and Jason's mentality say hello Bats...
I'm a huge defender of the "Batman shouldn't have to kill Joker" point of view; even in the instances cited in this video, I can understand why Batman did it. The only major one (that I totally thought would be in this top 5) I disagree with, is in *Batman: Cacophony* (Kevin Smith's follow up to *Green Arrow: The Sounds of Violence* ). When Onomatopoeia stabs the Joker next to the heart, and Batman has to choose between following Ono and stopping him, or taking the Joker to the emergency room to have him get surgery... just this one time, I agreed with Jim Gordon's take on the situation. Jim: "Are you crazy? Let him die." Batman: "I.. I can't Jim, it was *my* idea to use him as bait. *I* got him stabbed." Jim:"I know you live by a code, and I'd never ask you to break it. But I'm not asking you to kill him. I'm just asking you not to *save* him" and then it goes on, read this comic if you want to see the ending, it's pretty good. Plenty of people like to hate to Kevin Smith, but I've really enjoyed this little storyline, and Onomatopoeia made for a great new villain. Too bad he's only been used in Teen Titans ever since, well except from some cameos here and there of course...
While it's easy to say that killing the Joker or at least letting him die is the right thing to do, it's generally not the thing that Batman would do. Batman is, by his own admission, a "rich kid with issues... lots of issues". He sees himself in the psychological struggles of his rogues, and he wants to see them get better. To give up on a crazy person like the Joker, he might as well give up on himself too, and that would be the end of the Batman.
Then kill a couple of them, that Way You are doing communal service. I mean it's clear that batman is too much of a good guy to kill the Joker (if it's not just Insane) and that is a good thing, but unfortunatelly some people NEED to die and someone needs to do it.
Darkside: i'm going to kill millions Batman: kills darkside Joker: i'm going to kill millions Batman: doesn't kill joker Batman who laughts: i'm going to kill millions Batman :nearly kills him Wow Batman can't kill the joker
I like to think of it this way, Batman is well aware of how damaged he is, so he also realizes that if he makes that choice to kill the Joker, it would make the choice to kill another criminal easier the next time he has that option, and it would only get easier to make that call every time until eventually, he's just killing every criminal.
And evil doesn't go away cuz you killed it Chaos is an unstoppable force Damn this makes me want to see batman in 40k lol I wonder what he'd do to a demon prince or a single dark eldar who live vicariously off of another person's suffering
I hate that ideology, if you can`t control yourself and would rather kill everyone after killing just one, you are the one with the problem from before. Also if he really wants to put him somewhere where he does not die but is no longer a FUCKING menace, can`t he ask sups for the phantom zone (I do not read to much comics so if not possible please do tell).
Imagine joker gets sentenced to the chair, he's about to be fried to death for all the crimes he's committed, Then Batman jumps in, saves his life and after that joker proceeds to murder 17 people......
What makes Arkham City truley masterful with Batmans ark is that he was willing to save Joker. He says himself he would have saved him. Plus it actually kinda break a part of Batman that he couldn't do it. Even in City's DLC Tim and Barbara dicuss how Batman would even mention anything about Joker.
The hero’s in any universe letting their adversaries live is showing they don’t want to be judge jury and executioner. The fact that the laws of said universe keeps them alive is where the wrong is
If you watch Kyle Hill’s “Because Science” Video: “Is the Joker legally insane?” (which I have) you start to ask yourself how in the multiverse Joker doesn’t get the death sentence.
8:19 - An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. That said, I think the Joker is one of the few exceptions. The man should die, but not by Batman's hand. Batman has said on several occasions that he can't cross that line because if he does, it'll be too easy for it to happen more than once.
Batman: I refuse to kill the joker Commissioner Gordon: why Batman: killing him will only make things worse Gordon: but joker escapes every time and kills tons of people so that probably means your responsible for people’s death in the first place Batman: okay fine you got a gun on you?
I'd like to see DC present a series of conclusions to their overall characters every one in awhile. I'd like to see how things end for the caped crusader, see a long formed self contained series that actually has a definitive beginning, middle and ending for Batman, how he starts out, how he meets his infamous rogue's gallery, how he meets superman, join the justice league, how he meets the court of owls, to going oin adventures with the Justice League, how the larger scope of the DC universe intertwines with Gotham, how Batman married Catwoman/Bruce married Selina, seeing a final battle between Batman and Joker, seeing how things finally end for the caped crusader, watching him finally finding peace with the death of his parents, watching his faithful buttler pass away, growing old with Selina Kyle, raising Damien Wayne or something, or Terry McGuinness, incorporating the Batman Beyond story line into all this, I do want to see a definitive end for the dark knight, I want to see DC's interpretation and finally allow the caped crusader to walk off in the sunset. I'm not talking main continuity here people, they can obviously do an elseworlds story line that plays out very similar to the main continuity, nothing says that the elseworlds stories have to be dark, gory, set in another time period all the time, it could be a modern series where this batman manages to overcome those demons that have haunted him since his inception by Bob Kane 80+ years ago
No human has the right to kill another human. It isn't up to us to decide if someone should die. Batman has sworn to save lives if he can, so he does when he can.
Joker needs to meet someone that will finally put him in the ground and keep him there, even if it means going against the Dark Knight. Perhaps for the next video, the top villains that deserve to die can be discussed (Joker obviously being at the top of the list).
Revenge is a guise of justice but it truly doesn't care for justice it just cares for anger and where that anger will be directed Once revenge is done one rarely goes back to a normal mind they'll just be spent spiraling or empty And that's why revenge kills will probably be batman's worse trigger Thanks for coming to my tedtalk
blustery-apple oh would be cool if there was a secret base that was like the batcave but instead it’s a prison & Basks worst & strong enemies go there or even a space prison batman makes for his enemies would be cool
U did forget another time Batman saved the joker in tell tale Batman, Batman was fighting the joker and after beating him to near death Batman did CPR and saved the joker
Batman doesn't kill Joker for the same reason so many versions of Joker refuse to kill Batman; they're one in the same, two sides of the same coin. They need each other, it's completely unhealthy but it won't be any other way. Batman sees himself in Joker, and if he won't give up on himself - he can't give up on Joker.
Batman didn't want to resurrect Jason because he new he would come back different. The Lazarus Pit might bring your body back, but not your soul. You will never be the same and he did not want Jason to end up like that
This is all the reasons why I love when Batman kills the Joker in Injustice Year 3, at least in a dream. He actually did it because it would save Superman from further threat of the Joker, but also save the world from devastation as Superman took control. It’s beautiful
I can see what you mean Needlemouse, but Batman's character and moral code is so important. If he were to kill the Joker, he'd sink to his level. Like what Captain Marvel said in Justice League Unlimited, "I've always found a way to win without sinking to their level. Always." And yes, letting someone die does count as murder. You even said so yourself in one of your own videos. An eye for an eye is not justice.
When evil rises a greater good will come to destroy it, When good rises a greater evil will come to destroy it. Killing Joker may just pave the road for someone worse to come in and do far worse.
It makes zero sense that Batman would resurrect Joker who killed thousands of people but when some heroes or citizens he knows who’s family members have died, he does not care about them or try to resurrect them.
The mental state of someone using a lazuris pit depends on the purity of the dianeceum in the pool, when know vandal savage was the first one to ever use the dianeceum and as such gained immortality, ra's has the same dianeceum in his pits but over the centuries of exposure the pits have become more impure over time, witch lead to the dianeceum pool under Gotham, it was possibly the most refined lazuris pit we've seen and using it redirected batman and joker and even cured joker of his insanity, and batman of his trauma, so yes depending on the pit you can return insane, or perfect fine
People who think Batman should not try to save jokers life... Remember what happened in the injustice games ? Remember what happened to super man ? *remember the bad ending of injustice 2 ?*
The injustice games started because of joker. letting a police or someone like jason todd kill him would easily be the end of joker. Its not like as soon as a person kills the joker they get gis Iq or status smdh, the only reason joker is alive is because his boyfriend batman wont let anyone kill him
I heard that if he did end up killing a murderer, he wouldn't stop himself from going on a killing spree and become the same tyrant Superman was in the Injustice universe.
This question is complicated. Yes, Joker is a mass murderer who deserves to die. His twisted, torturous actions are more than enough to condemn him. Yet, that is when Batman: The Dark Knight said it perfectly, "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object." Batman doesn't want anyone to feel the pain he has suffered all theses years by killing another person. His moral code says all lives are precious, regardless of their actions. He wants to kill him, just as he states in Under the Red Hood. Yet, he cannot. Another look into the act is if he did, he would not stop. Again, as he states in Under the Red Hood. Does Joker deserve to die? Yes. However, he will only have Batman kill him.
8:14 I’d have to disagree the very point of the “eye for an eye” quote what is the point out why doing bad things to punish someone for doing a bad thing is morally wrong. After all “An eye for an eye. Everyone ends up blind.“ Now I do have to say if anyone deserves to be the one to put down the Joker, Red Hood is definitely up there. The only person I could see more deserving would be Harley Quinn, since Jason at least only had one really bad experience with the joker a Harley suffered for years. (However again I cannot justify killing someone even as monstrous as the joker. No matter what he’s done he deserves a day in court.)
If Batman kills the Joker then what is stopping him from killing Penguin, Two-Face, or The Riddler. If he takes that first life he won’t be able to stop. That’s what he was trying to get Jason to understand.
NGL, Batman's no kill rule says makes absolutely no sense anymore, and anyone who thinks it does, has either not read any of his comics nor watched any of the cartoons/movies. Batman is a passive serial-killer by not letting the joker die, it's not his no-kill rule that is holding his back, it's his pride - He does not kill the Joker because that's what the Joker wants to do, but if Batman was actually mildly sane, he would just take the L on their game and save millions of lives. For Batman, his pride is more valuable than any life, and he will do everything in his power to not hurt his fragile ego. That is something I'm baffled no author has ever wrote about.
Depends on the joker plot at thr time really. If he is robbing banks with his chattering false teeth bombs then killing him would be a bit of an overreaction, but after the stuff he did in the dark knight I feel like even the most staunch defenders of life would say to kill him. He brings more death than he is life.
This is why i love batman's code in batman begins:
I am not going to kill you but i don't have to save you. In the dark knight he saved joker because if he didn't he would've killed him.
It's really flustrating when joker would've died from his fault or killed by someone else and batman went out of his way to save him.
I completely agree, I thought the same thing! Bale's Batman has the most rational no kill rule
I've actually been thinking about this all day, Batman has gone out of his way and risked his own life to save Joker. Yet, he never tries to the same extent with other characters, Batman apparently gust can't let the Joker go.
its probably because he knows if he kills the joker he'll go insane and become a villain like him, but with pretty much anyone else, they can die and nothingll go wrong
@@blehh_mae but in the case of Arkham Origins it wouldn’t even be Batman’s fault, it would be Bane who is the killer so it makes no sense
Do you know what the cruel irony is?
If Owlman’s theory about the DC multiverse is to believed, that for every decision a character makes, in some alternate reality they made the opposite choice; every time Batman saves The Joker, another Batman let’s The Joker die.
Yes, do you wanna know where those universes are... The dark multiverse
It also makes me wonder why a more morally grey Gotham Detective or Police officer never shot the Joker in the head shortly after his arrest.
probably because it wouldnt be that interesting to read
@@blehh_mae I'm talking in-univetse. The fourth wall is not my concern.
Because Batman would kick their ass and throw them in prison for the rest of their lives
@@Dark_Minded20 Maybe that's not enough of a deterant. Maybe GCPD makes it look like self defense.
I'm really surprised Commissioner Gordon never did it. Joker paralysed and sexually assaulted his daughter (The Killing Joke). No one in Gotham would reprimand him. The worst thing that might happen was he is asked to retire early to save face. If anyone should kill the Joker, it should be Jim.
“If someone kills you, you got a right to kill them back”
-needlemouse productions 2020
Best quotes of the century
Also means all ghosts, spectres and poltigists can be except for killing their own murderers
I am holding him to it
Eye for eye
An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
Even crazier idea:
5 times where Joker saved Batman’s life
Mavi Kartal one would be in batman:the enemy within.
Shadow Hunter
Great. Now we need 4 more times
@@mavikartal7775 Arkham knight if that counts
Brave and the Bold?
Also once in batman who laughs
Personally, I can forgive Batman for not killing Joker, after all, I think he does the right thing by handing him to the Justice System to deal with him, keep in mind I think Joker SHOULD die. But his fate is often decided by the people of Gotham, via jury's and judges.
HOWEVER, saving the Joker's life is WAY TO FAR, and is something that is totally INSANE for Batman to do.
I agree, its understandable why he won't just kill him fair enough but to save him?!? Like are you completely MAD!? I'm talking about the time in Arkham Origins, like why?
@@vgdrent2852 I agree, saving the Joker is like killing his victims yourself to me, also I don't think Batman is really all that sane anyway so I believe he would do something like that lol
@@vgdrent2852 best guess I can come up with is he wanted him alive in case there were anymore tricks he hid around Gotham he could reveal to the GCPD. A plan that absolutely had no long term repercussions. By the way, Barbara's spine and Jason's mentality say hello Bats...
I'm a huge defender of the "Batman shouldn't have to kill Joker" point of view; even in the instances cited in this video, I can understand why Batman did it. The only major one (that I totally thought would be in this top 5) I disagree with, is in *Batman: Cacophony* (Kevin Smith's follow up to *Green Arrow: The Sounds of Violence* ).
When Onomatopoeia stabs the Joker next to the heart, and Batman has to choose between following Ono and stopping him, or taking the Joker to the emergency room to have him get surgery... just this one time, I agreed with Jim Gordon's take on the situation.
Jim: "Are you crazy? Let him die."
Batman: "I.. I can't Jim, it was *my* idea to use him as bait. *I* got him stabbed."
Jim:"I know you live by a code, and I'd never ask you to break it. But I'm not asking you to kill him. I'm just asking you not to *save* him"
and then it goes on, read this comic if you want to see the ending, it's pretty good.
Plenty of people like to hate to Kevin Smith, but I've really enjoyed this little storyline, and Onomatopoeia made for a great new villain. Too bad he's only been used in Teen Titans ever since, well except from some cameos here and there of course...
The Joker can break the fourth wall, so he knows they won't let him die. That's the joke he laughs at most of the time
While it's easy to say that killing the Joker or at least letting him die is the right thing to do, it's generally not the thing that Batman would do. Batman is, by his own admission, a "rich kid with issues... lots of issues". He sees himself in the psychological struggles of his rogues, and he wants to see them get better. To give up on a crazy person like the Joker, he might as well give up on himself too, and that would be the end of the Batman.
Finally someone in this comment section that actually knows this
How about "Times Superman has revealed his identity"
“If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same.” -Batman
But the number of people that die drops by the millions and the family of those people don’t have to suffer
What if you killer like 100 killers-red hood maybe
Then kill a couple of them, that Way You are doing communal service.
I mean it's clear that batman is too much of a good guy to kill the Joker (if it's not just Insane) and that is a good thing, but unfortunatelly some people NEED to die and someone needs to do it.
What if I kill 2 killers
but if you kill 100 killers then it would go down by 99 right?
Darkside: i'm going to kill millions
Batman: kills darkside
Joker: i'm going to kill millions
Batman: doesn't kill joker
Batman who laughts: i'm going to kill millions
Batman :nearly kills him
Wow Batman can't kill the joker
Marcos Castillo Solorzano Darkseid was going to destroy the entire Dc multiverse. All of the infinite universes in Dc would have been destroyed.
@@brownwindedangel yeah its just a joke
Marcos Castillo Solorzano it’s not a funny one
@@brownwindedangel it isn't funny because people like you smh
lol
I like to think of it this way, Batman is well aware of how damaged he is, so he also realizes that if he makes that choice to kill the Joker, it would make the choice to kill another criminal easier the next time he has that option, and it would only get easier to make that call every time until eventually, he's just killing every criminal.
And evil doesn't go away cuz you killed it
Chaos is an unstoppable force
Damn this makes me want to see batman in 40k lol
I wonder what he'd do to a demon prince or a single dark eldar who live vicariously off of another person's suffering
I hate that ideology, if you can`t control yourself and would rather kill everyone after killing just one, you are the one with the problem from before. Also if he really wants to put him somewhere where he does not die but is no longer a FUCKING menace, can`t he ask sups for the phantom zone (I do not read to much comics so if not possible please do tell).
5:00 take that Zack whatever he's name is
Zach Snyder.
@@Samuel152 thanks
Imagine joker gets sentenced to the chair, he's about to be fried to death for all the crimes he's committed,
Then Batman jumps in, saves his life and after that joker proceeds to murder 17 people......
What makes Arkham City truley masterful with Batmans ark is that he was willing to save Joker. He says himself he would have saved him. Plus it actually kinda break a part of Batman that he couldn't do it. Even in City's DLC Tim and Barbara dicuss how Batman would even mention anything about Joker.
The hero’s in any universe letting their adversaries live is showing they don’t want to be judge jury and executioner. The fact that the laws of said universe keeps them alive is where the wrong is
The trouble with ending an enemy is whether the individual that takes their place is better or worse usually worse.
Batmans free will not to kill the joke is insane
yeah, I'm with Jason -and now Damian as well- Batman seems to care mroe about the damn psycho than his own loved ones.
The Lazarus pit: I make you insain
joker: ha your be in danger
If you watch Kyle Hill’s “Because Science” Video: “Is the Joker legally insane?” (which I have) you start to ask yourself how in the multiverse Joker doesn’t get the death sentence.
8:19 - An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. That said, I think the Joker is one of the few exceptions. The man should die, but not by Batman's hand. Batman has said on several occasions that he can't cross that line because if he does, it'll be too easy for it to happen more than once.
Batman: I refuse to kill the joker
Commissioner Gordon: why
Batman: killing him will only make things worse
Gordon: but joker escapes every time and kills tons of people so that probably means your responsible for people’s death in the first place
Batman: okay fine you got a gun on you?
I'd like to see DC present a series of conclusions to their overall characters every one in awhile.
I'd like to see how things end for the caped crusader, see a long formed self contained series that actually has a definitive beginning, middle and ending for Batman, how he starts out, how he meets his infamous rogue's gallery, how he meets superman, join the justice league, how he meets the court of owls, to going oin adventures with the Justice League, how the larger scope of the DC universe intertwines with Gotham, how Batman married Catwoman/Bruce married Selina, seeing a final battle between Batman and Joker, seeing how things finally end for the caped crusader, watching him finally finding peace with the death of his parents, watching his faithful buttler pass away, growing old with Selina Kyle, raising Damien Wayne or something, or Terry McGuinness, incorporating the Batman Beyond story line into all this, I do want to see a definitive end for the dark knight, I want to see DC's interpretation and finally allow the caped crusader to walk off in the sunset.
I'm not talking main continuity here people, they can obviously do an elseworlds story line that plays out very similar to the main continuity, nothing says that the elseworlds stories have to be dark, gory, set in another time period all the time, it could be a modern series where this batman manages to overcome those demons that have haunted him since his inception by Bob Kane 80+ years ago
No human has the right to kill another human. It isn't up to us to decide if someone should die. Batman has sworn to save lives if he can, so he does when he can.
Joker needs to meet someone that will finally put him in the ground and keep him there, even if it means going against the Dark Knight. Perhaps for the next video, the top villains that deserve to die can be discussed (Joker obviously being at the top of the list).
You forgot the time Batman saved the Joker from being executed from a crime he never committed.
Even tho I hate
Even the joker pisses me off
Batman does the right things
An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
Revenge is a guise of justice but it truly doesn't care for justice it just cares for anger and where that anger will be directed
Once revenge is done one rarely goes back to a normal mind they'll just be spent spiraling or empty
And that's why revenge kills will probably be batman's worse trigger
Thanks for coming to my tedtalk
Batman should get his own prison & he’s the warden & watches everyone he locks up 24/7
He does
blustery-apple wait really? So like a secret prison & no one can find it
@@silentwolfkills3924 is literally under Wayne Tower it's not the Batcave it's just a fault that he puts prisoners that know his identity
blustery-apple oh would be cool if there was a secret base that was like the batcave but instead it’s a prison & Basks worst & strong enemies go there or even a space prison batman makes for his enemies would be cool
If only Batman followed his philosophy of "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you"
U did forget another time Batman saved the joker in tell tale Batman, Batman was fighting the joker and after beating him to near death Batman did CPR and saved the joker
Though that joker from what i have heard is a bit more reedemable from what I heard
Does deflebration the same as CPR
@@jadenbryant9283 he was trying to be a superhero but after he was blamed for riddlers death he went mad and started being a villain
@@arkhamtony3775 I forgot it wasn’t CPR
batman could have just gotten Superman or redhood to kill him if he wouldn’t have all those times
I agree with Red Hood but if you know anything about Injustice, Superman killing Joker is not a good idea
NIVUS NVS would it be because people think or know Superman is a murder and would increase people thoughts on the matter? 🤔
@@notbr8ks771 no, he would just end up becoming an evil dictator and kill anyone he feels is slightly indecent
:o
Sometimes I wonder if batman's code is a promise or an obsession
waiting for season 4 for of young justice is like waiting for half life 3
Luvzelda4eva half life 3 kinda came out if you count the VR on steam
@@tjgamie1711 tbh i thinking they're hyping it up
0:00 Wait...The batman who laughs was in Arkham origins
Batman has probably killed more people than joker by letting most of his rouges live,their kill counts are almost equal
I thought Batman’s biggest mistake was having Tim Drake, dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Damien Wayne as kids
No it fucking batgirl
Batman doesn't kill Joker for the same reason so many versions of Joker refuse to kill Batman; they're one in the same, two sides of the same coin. They need each other, it's completely unhealthy but it won't be any other way. Batman sees himself in Joker, and if he won't give up on himself - he can't give up on Joker.
What about the part in the batman who laughs comic, where batman tries to save joker from dying in a surgery? I just wanted to mention it
Soooo,
Insane X Insane = Sane?
Aight.
Batman didn't want to resurrect Jason because he new he would come back different. The Lazarus Pit might bring your body back, but not your soul. You will never be the same and he did not want Jason to end up like that
I noticed you didnt bring up The batman who laughs story set after dark nights metal I guess you could for a part 2 if there are any more suggestions
You're missing Joker: The Devil's Advocate story. That's got to be my second favorite Joker story after The Killing Joke.
6:35 my favorite animated joker
This is all the reasons why I love when Batman kills the Joker in Injustice Year 3, at least in a dream. He actually did it because it would save Superman from further threat of the Joker, but also save the world from devastation as Superman took control. It’s beautiful
I can see what you mean Needlemouse, but Batman's character and moral code is so important. If he were to kill the Joker, he'd sink to his level. Like what Captain Marvel said in Justice League Unlimited,
"I've always found a way to win without sinking to their level. Always."
And yes, letting someone die does count as murder. You even said so yourself in one of your own videos. An eye for an eye is not justice.
Getting needlemouse to do a lantern corps video on danny the street day 271
When evil rises a greater good will come to destroy it,
When good rises a greater evil will come to destroy it.
Killing Joker may just pave the road for someone worse to come in and do far worse.
The Batman who laugh comic don’t count because Alfred help him
8:32... And put him into a body cast for six months. I don't want to imagine what Batman did to Joker.
Needlemouse: 5 times Batman saves the joker Me: so every single goddamn time they fight
If the joker was about to blow up a car full of people, himself included, batman would save the joker in that car before the other people
Batman saves the joker because he believes that even the worst of us have good in us.
How can Batman be a such a dark character but not kill? I’ve never understood that. Forget his code and morals
It makes zero sense that Batman would resurrect Joker who killed thousands of people but when some heroes or citizens he knows who’s family members have died, he does not care about them or try to resurrect them.
If Batman let’s joker die and it’s not Batman’s or his allies fault, it’s ok
i mean, if Batman let's this human being to die, what makes Batman better than a cold blooded person
I think Batman didn’t want to resurrect Jason in the Lazarus pit because he didn’t want Jason coming back insane
3:51 neddel: joker could have come out of the pit even more insane
Me: if that's even possibls
The mental state of someone using a lazuris pit depends on the purity of the dianeceum in the pool, when know vandal savage was the first one to ever use the dianeceum and as such gained immortality, ra's has the same dianeceum in his pits but over the centuries of exposure the pits have become more impure over time, witch lead to the dianeceum pool under Gotham, it was possibly the most refined lazuris pit we've seen and using it redirected batman and joker and even cured joker of his insanity, and batman of his trauma, so yes depending on the pit you can return insane, or perfect fine
HEY NEEDLE IM EARLY AND LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!
Literally every time they have a confrontation
I think that Batman should not kill joker but he should lock him up somewhere that is not Arkham like the phantom zone (with Superman’s approval)
5 Times Joker Has Saved The Batman
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Batman you won't let me fall to death would you? Batman! ☹️- joker from Batman the animated series
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People who think Batman should not try to save jokers life...
Remember what happened in the injustice games ?
Remember what happened to super man ?
*remember the bad ending of injustice 2 ?*
The injustice games started because of joker. letting a police or someone like jason todd kill him would easily be the end of joker. Its not like as soon as a person kills the joker they get gis Iq or status smdh, the only reason joker is alive is because his boyfriend batman wont let anyone kill him
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If we believe in an eye for an eye then we'd all be blind.
I heard that if he did end up killing a murderer, he wouldn't stop himself from going on a killing spree and become the same tyrant Superman was in the Injustice universe.
Maybe Batman Loves Joker.The Ship of the Universe😒
i don't think batman wants to stop crime but simply take vengeance against it by punching it in the face. there's a big difference.
an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
Batman doesn't let the Joker die because they love each other.
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So the Joker is pretty much border line insane if the Lazarus pit made him sane
Arian asylum is supposed to help people, so it makes since why he doesn’t want joker to die
Its not just the no killing rule its about justice everyone deserves a trial and lawyer
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This is how it happened... this is how the joker DIDN’T die
This question is complicated. Yes, Joker is a mass murderer who deserves to die. His twisted, torturous actions are more than enough to condemn him. Yet, that is when Batman: The Dark Knight said it perfectly, "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object." Batman doesn't want anyone to feel the pain he has suffered all theses years by killing another person. His moral code says all lives are precious, regardless of their actions. He wants to kill him, just as he states in Under the Red Hood. Yet, he cannot. Another look into the act is if he did, he would not stop. Again, as he states in Under the Red Hood. Does Joker deserve to die? Yes. However, he will only have Batman kill him.
1:55 Oh. Back for More, eh?
8:14 I’d have to disagree the very point of the “eye for an eye” quote what is the point out why doing bad things to punish someone for doing a bad thing is morally wrong. After all “An eye for an eye. Everyone ends up blind.“
Now I do have to say if anyone deserves to be the one to put down the Joker, Red Hood is definitely up there. The only person I could see more deserving would be Harley Quinn, since Jason at least only had one really bad experience with the joker a Harley suffered for years. (However again I cannot justify killing someone even as monstrous as the joker. No matter what he’s done he deserves a day in court.)
The Joker isn’t a human and he isn’t human at all.
If Batman kills the Joker then what is stopping him from killing Penguin, Two-Face, or The Riddler. If he takes that first life he won’t be able to stop. That’s what he was trying to get Jason to understand.
NGL, Batman's no kill rule says makes absolutely no sense anymore, and anyone who thinks it does, has either not read any of his comics nor watched any of the cartoons/movies. Batman is a passive serial-killer by not letting the joker die, it's not his no-kill rule that is holding his back, it's his pride - He does not kill the Joker because that's what the Joker wants to do, but if Batman was actually mildly sane, he would just take the L on their game and save millions of lives. For Batman, his pride is more valuable than any life, and he will do everything in his power to not hurt his fragile ego. That is something I'm baffled no author has ever wrote about.
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3:55 I think joker cant get anymore insaner
Depends on the joker plot at thr time really. If he is robbing banks with his chattering false teeth bombs then killing him would be a bit of an overreaction, but after the stuff he did in the dark knight I feel like even the most staunch defenders of life would say to kill him. He brings more death than he is life.
Your right no one would care if Batman killed the Joker, but he would.
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He beat the crap out of the joker and put him in a full body cast for six months