FRONTPERSON TIER LIST pt 3 (w/ Ronnie Radke, Jared Leto & Courtney Love)
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Welcome to the frontperson tier list part 3! Where do frontmen and frontwomen like Ronnie Radke, Scott Weiland, Davey Havok, Austin Carlile, Jared Leto, Courtney Love, Johnny Rotten, Danny Worsnop, Layne Staley, Everlast, Brandon Boyd and more fall on the frontperson tier list?
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I was wondering what your opinion is on the band Gnome?
Idk, "non-binary"....
Sounds a bit woke to me.
Not that its good, but can super relate on the mom shit. I cried when you explained it that way. So close to home Holy fuck.
so i'm pretty sure i didn't see michael allen patton in any of these lists...deliberate omission, or you just didn't think of him? given the passion of many of his fans, that'll probably pump your numbers a bit. plus, he has different versions of himself: the mr. bungle patton is not the faith no more/tomahawk patton is not the mondo cane patton is not the dead cross patton, etc. i actually don't care for the mondo cane version (except in the song urlo negro), or the fantomas version. of course, the miracle of patton is that the fantomas and mondo cane pattons are the same as the faith no more/tomahawk pattons.
Watching this a year later is hilarious, especially the “ice cold bottle of Bud” line. That wouldn’t fly with the people who listen to that music today. 😂
Hearing about Finn’s BBQ fantasies are the best part haha.
When we (Chimaira) were on the show Farmclub (right before we signed to Roadrunner), they try to get the big bands to hang out with the unsigned bands, to make them feel like they equal peers…. The only band to hang out with us, was Incubus. Nicest guys ever. You’d never know they just got bigger than Jesus, by how down to earth they were.
Hey Jason, it was awesome to see you jamming with Rob in his channel recently
#216 #hometownheroes #Clevelandohio
The Farmclub appearance started my Chimaira obsession \m/
Awesome story!
I remember watching you guys on that man, I'm from Youngstown, Ohio! (Watch your mouth Finn! 🤣) You guys definitely made Ohio metalheads proud. All the best man. 👏👏👏
Can we get a tier list for drummers?
Less people would care and he needs to make money, his channel is in fact a business after all.
@@thatonecarlbs4406 I’m sure enough people would care.
We all know Dave Lombardo will be on top
It’d be a cool list I feel like more drummers should get recognition.
Do a screamer tier list
Leto needs to be in his own tier labeled “Morb” and it just says yes
I’d argue that Chester Bennington was probably the best vocalist from the Nu Metal era but Amy Lee is definitely up there
If Amy Lee is A-level, Floor Jansen should be S-level, I mean the fans are not talking about floorgasms for nothing....
@Ryan Schilling but that’s a reflection of the band and not her as a vocalist. As a vocalist she’s next level talent and seems like a great person too
@@markcrane1984 Idk. According too all the band members she has chased since reforming Evanescence, she's a royal b.
Corey taylor is better
Yes. As a Linkin Park fan, I never really understand why people say Chester is one of the best vocalists of all time, I wouldn't go that far, (maybe one of the best live vocalists) but I'd say he's easily the best of that era. Then of course; Amy Lee, and Corey Taylor.
Davey havok has got to be one of the nicest front-men in the whole cohort of post-hardcore bands. Davey seems like such an admirable chad - never rude or disrespectful. Not to mention the 2006 Karen hair and suspenders - classic.
I love post-hardcore but never saw it as the genre with a bunch of douches, maybe there’s some that I’m unaware of but I would like to know ! I do know the whole DGD recent situation with tilian.
Agreed AFI is the nicest band
Nice to see Layne on S Tier. Very underrated along with Alice in Chains(compared to Nirvana and Pearl Jam). Yes he was a Yarler but he did it naturally and didn't lean on it like most bands of the 90's(looking at Creed), he could actually sing. Guy could really make you feel things with his voice and was very influential, so many singers after Layne tired to imitate him.
Totally agree!
Man....dude was a powerhouse
Absolute best singer in my opinion. His voice is unmatched and he seemed like I really cool dude. It's a shame he was gone so soon, but even though I never got to see him perform I'm happy I shared the same timeline as him for the first 9 years of my life
Layne was a technically gifted singer and I think there's no denying that.
This series needs to continue, there's still so many vocalists that need to be covered
It's so funny that Finn showed the exact same videos and said basically the exact same things about Danny Worsnapp in episode one 😂 It's like he channeled a memory and didn't realize it was happening.
Totally agree about Layne Staley. He is underappreciated. One of the greatest rock singers of all time.
Totally agree!
Your 6 thumbs up, should be 6 million thumbs up 🤘🤘
He was an example of somebody with crazy talent coupled with a troubled soul.
My favourite vocalist...and jerry's riffs and harmonies
The thing with Scott Weiland, he had the ability to totally change his tone. So underrated as a vocalist.
Right.rock,grunge,heavy metal.he could pull it all off
Incubus is one of the greats and if you haven't heard them in a while, definitely a great reminder of why we all love them. The hits of course, but songs like "Here In My Room," "Echo," "Megalomaniac," est. are so much better than they get credit for. Honestly, aside at most 5-7 songs, every album is great all the way through
Your next band tier list needs to be people who got kicked out of their bands and why, and base your "would i want to hang out with them" based on that 🤣
This sounds like fun 😁
@@muenchhausenmusic like, a few recent examples would be keith buckley from every time i die, alex from atreyu, etc. Maybe even people who left their bands on their own accord, but you get where this is going... 🤣
Pete Best, Dave Mustaine, are the only two I can think of.
Yeah, Chuck Dukowski should definitely be on that list! I think I could totally hang with that guy.
Is there anyone that left their original band for a new one or solo project that comes to mind? I dunno, like gwen stefani or something? I guess no doubt isn't officially done-zo but there's kind of no point now 😆 and would you want to hang out with her? As a factor on the tier list, of course 🤣 i think she's already been done but I'm out of people off the top of my head haha
Incubus is a deeply amazing band. A great group of stand up individuals. DJ Killmore actually enhanced the band quite a bit.
Agree. A DJ isn't only record scratches, they're basically a producer onstage who can provide all sorts of background sounds that producers would add on a studio recording anyway. Which, if the DJ weren't there, would either be missed live or have to be done with backing tracks. But bands like Incubus, LP or LB can bring the full sonic richness in a live setting, and I think that makes a difference, albeit often a subtle one
They had so much potential in the Science era though. Not sure where they lost their way. I remember a show in Salem Mass in October of 98 with maybe 30 people in attendance. Still have the signed set list. I also saw them open a small club club show ahead of system that same month.
That's what my comment was about too lol... They were the 1 band who utilized DJs well
@@kdogg7882 do yourself a favor and at least listen up till Light Grenades. Idk, maybe it’s not your thing, but it’s very good music. After Light Grenades however, I will agree they fell off and lost a lot of their creativity.
Actually! No!
I always liked Incubus. Their lyrics are more thoughtful than most bands of the time
Yes, this is true! I'm going to see them live in August...🤗
“I bite my tongue every time you come around, cause blood in my mouth, beats blood on the ground” is one of my favorite lyrics.
It’s such a poignant way to describe a toxic relationship.
It cracks me up every time you say "here's the thing" and use that clip with BVB 😂😂
Love these different tier lists you've been doing lately btw!
Great video today! Let´s go for part 4!
The reason Layne isn't higher on general rock singer lists is because his body of work was so small. As iconic as their Unplugged performance was, it's kind of tough to watch considering what his voice sounded like from 89-92. Those are the years to search for concert videos because heroin was really starting to affect him in 93. He had such a toxic relationship with his ex fiancée Demri and when he got clean in 93, his dad came back into the picture to mooch drugs and Layne never kicked it again after December 93. He would just hold up in his condo playing video games. Was too embarrassed, but just couldn't kick the addiction.
1989: ruclips.net/video/l5SHif5Yuik/видео.html
1990: ruclips.net/video/4UyX-kisicY/видео.html
1991: ruclips.net/video/eDEtFIyKit0/видео.html
1992: ruclips.net/video/lKoYkFk_TWw/видео.html
The producers and sound engineers would ask him to do another take, Layne would say "Nope, you got your take." and Layne would be right. People said you could hear Layne's voice over all of the stage noise too.
Agree, underrated vocalist.
What's wild is that I used to wonder how Layne's voice would have aged, but then I realized that we listened to it age in a very sped up way from 93 to his final recordings on Died, Get Born Again and the Pink Floyd cover.
Sadly I think his drug problems got the better of him, which is such a shame because he had such distinctive sound.
@@leehayman8874 Admittedly so. He said the drugs worked for years, but then turned on him.
@@apallace I think that is very true. Look at how so many iconic singers and songwriters have succumbed to addiction.
Ah yes, the much awaited “I don’t really know anything about them or their music but they seem nice” edition!
Yes I haven't seen that one
"Some people that died aren't great musicians" - Finn McKenty
I'd go as far as to say that MOST people that've died aren't great musicians 😂
i saw jinjer live in the fall of 2019 and they were absolutely unreal. best live show i've seen. they're also great people and have done a lot to try to support their country of ukraine
Saw them last November and my jaw dropped on how tight they were live. Easily one of the tightest live bands I’ve seen.
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Brilliant live. Saw them in Vancouver last year. Their drummer got covid and was stuck in the US. They played the entire show with recorded drums and didn't miss a beat. It was amazing.
I saw them at the al Rosa villa in 2019, excellent band 10 out of 10 would watch again ,there drummer blows my mind
Saw them twice so far. They were a little more raw the first time. Second time they upgraded their venue, and Tati was fucking flawless. I'm not exhaggerating. She hit every note, clean & scream and sounded insanely good. One of the best vocal shows I've EVER seen.
The GG Allin comment during the Jared Leto part killed me 🤣
Amy Lee is no question S-tier. One of the most beautiful voices in rock/metal. Such an influential band for releasing only 2-3 in their prime
She is great. I wonder what you think about Floor Jansen as frontwoman?
Floor is waaaay better than amy lee
Mediocre in terms of charisma. No way she’s S tier.
@@bengreenbank are you talking about Floor Jansen or Amy Lee?
@@robertsteinberger5667 Amy Lee
I'm with you on the Sex Pistols. Surprisingly interesting band. Only band in British history to hit #1 on the charts, but the spot was left blank. They didn't move #2 to the top spot... they just left it blank.
Who cares if Finn like to have him on his barbecue, I think he has an interesting personality, he is like the Henry Rollins of the first wave of punk, not everyone likes him but that is what punk is about...
@@robertsteinberger5667 well put. I tried to get Rollins and Anthony Bourdain to get together but Hank and Johnny could be really fun too.
Loving this series !!
Its awesome 🤘😈
Awesome video Finn!
Finn, I love all your videos. I’ve been watching Punk Rock MBA for a couple of years now. You’ve already hollered at me before. I love this 2nd channel too. I really would LOVE for you to make a video on V.O.D. That would be awesome. I know you like them. Plus All Out War and stuff on your wallpaper is the shit. Layne Staley might be the best vocalist of all time, but I’d have to argue Kurt too. You’re the fucking man. I love how many shout outs you’re getting online right now. I tell EVERYONE about your channels 24/7. You deserve it. You’re a true student of music in general. Props Finn. 🤘🏻
Thank you!
Brandon Boyd is one of my favorite vocalists ever, and he is the only man that's ever made me question my sexuality lol
100 percent agree with everything said about pistols can you do a full length video about these please?
Alissa's work with the Agonist is so much better than what she does with Arch Enemy. The first three albums are solid, especially Lullabies for the Dormant Mind. Amazing metalcore.
Also, she seems to be one of those obnoxious vegans that has to jam it down your throat.
Yeah she’s not that great in arch enemy. Trying to be someone she’s not.
Absolutely love these videos.
This is a great series to watch.
Love your channel!
Rewatching the first installment of this EPIC series made me realise that Danny Worsnop was already ranked in part 1 😂😂😂 Good to see though that he has since risen a rank, was rated C tier back then. Such vocal prowess must be rewarded
Chester is the ability GOAT vocalist in Nu-Metal. Period. S of the S Tier.
Sitting poolside in Las Vegas watching one of my favorite channels, annoying everyone around me with these chad takes. 🤘🤘
I think the guys in Incubus are actually pretty humble. Brandon sure is on the artsy intellectual side but doesn't seem entitled at all. Especially now since they're older. They have a song that is about that topic, called State of the art. How they are basically now considered old and the Zeitgeist has moved on, even though they feel like they have just figured out who they are. Imo one of their best songs on one of their worst albums (which was co-produced by Skrillex btw)
I'm from Cbus. You really nailed your take on Austin Carlile
Has he covered Mike Shinoda yet? Arguably he wasn't the front person of Linkin Park, but he was definitely the one behind their visual style and musical styles
Alissa is actually straight edge so I think you'd get along with her Finn :D
And also: How dare you disrespect Arch Enemy, they're quite possibly the best death metal band out there right now, they literally have an all star line-up and great songs! You should give them a chance. But knowing you, you'd be like: "Ugh! Melody? In metal? How European! How Cringe!" :D :D
He calls arch enemy terrible but constantly praises generic pop metal acts, mumble rap, etc.
I think she would not be fun at a BBQ. She seems really political and one of those annoying vegans. That being said, she and the band are great.
Dude let him have an opinion
Nevermind the Bollocks absolutely slaps. The whole album. Which is kinda great for them considering its the only album they ever did.
I can’t believe he included Chino and Corey without including Jonathan Davis
Scott Weiland's actually my fave vocalist (RIP)
I like how I mentioned the BVB golden gods award on discord once and now Finn uses it more and more lol
John Lydon is a great guy, you need to read about him more in a Simon Reynolds book Rip It Up and Start Again.
Public Image Ltd. also a great band.
not anymore he isn't
I meet Danny Worsnop on his solo tour before & after the show at the Whiskey. Such a nice guy & his wife is so sweet. He learned for a lot of his mistakes & is driven to be back where he is.
Fun party game : take a shot every time you hear Finn say “here’s the thing”
Dude I would love to see that Jared Leto vid
Also, you should do a rock star hairdo tier list
Good call on Johnny Rotten! Nevermind the Bollocks was basically the Nevermind or Dookie of the late 70s. And PiL was fantastic, too. I would consider him B or possibly even A tier. He seems like a really funny, smart, and thoughtful guy. Even his snarky, snotty persona has a lot of thought behind it.
After watching this…. I totally want a Jared Leto video
Brandon Boyd is certainly an incredible singer. Unfortunately “Wish You Were Here” and “Nice to Know You” don’t really show that off, but he goes all out on the “A Crow Left of the Murder” album.
Dude these are fun! And some of the people in the chat are funny as fuck, let's keep these going!!
I think ronnie would blame the controller, look at you, laugh, and say “lets go fuck off” and you’d go do something fun.
Wife met him and said he was nice and cleared his bus out so she could use his restroom. I saw him live, dudes a beast on the vocals.
Love the "Here is the thing" lmao
Wish You Were Here is not the best song for Incubus as far as vocal ability. Brandon B is really good and has a very wide range of styles, but I do agree he isn't the most pronounced vocalist. Still top fucking notch though. Especially live. Seen Incubus many times and he is always perfect.
Especially live you’re right. That’s what I was thinking, Wish You Were Here wasn’t a great example to go with.
Completely agree, I forgot that he brings it live, too. The whole band is ridiculously talented at what they do. Mike Einziger (guitarrist) co-wrote Avicii's Wake me up and Lovers on the sun. This was during Incubus's hiatus, and he used that time and enrolled in university to study composition. Which imo says a lot about a person, the fact that they value their craft. If you do that, especially after already having achieved the level of success he has, it probably means that you're a pretty humble person who puts their craft before their ego
@@muenchhausenmusic I would love to meet Mike, he seems like such a nice, chill guy.
i met austin in june and he was the most genuine person I've ever met. Like honestly man we had the longest talk about just life and it was the greatest thing of my life
you’re not done with this series until i see chester bennington. i mean that outro in faint live rock am ring 2007 is unhuman
I know someone who worked with Jared Leto from mid 2000’s to early 2010’s. When asked about the experience, all she’ll say is that Leto has an appetite for teenagers.
Which in and of itself is not a bad thing. People can't help what they like. The two real questions are 1. whether you act on it and 2. IF you do, how you do it
Finn, how many of these guys DM'd you asking when the BBQ is?
Lmfao! The smash bros comment xD
Finn, where you go wrong with these videos is starting over every time with a blank sheet. You need to keep all the past entries up there to compare the new people against them. Helps to keep things in perspective
Agreed
Fun fact: Kevin Smith used to have John Lydon over at this house for poetry readings ⭐️
‘Wild cannon’ is a great new phrase
The BBQ Tales, coming to all good bookstores soon.
26:13 thought you were talking about the "Things Can Only Get Better" H. Jones
The Bri'ish remember when Johnny Rotten appeared in a Country Life Butter advert. That was the moment the younger generation realised that punks weren't really the anti-capitalist heroes we thought they were 🤣
You did Jared Leto dirty my dude those first couple albums were amazing
The self titled debut and A Beautiful Lie are some of my favorite albums ever. Such underrated hard rock albums of the 2000s.
@@awkwarddoggo05 revolve is my fav along with attack, from yesterday, was it a dream…
@@Thatguy55595 Absolute bangers, man. All of em. Buddha for Mary, Edge of the Earth, Capricorn, etc.
@@awkwarddoggo05 you seem like a cool dude lol
My prediction was wrong, I was thinking now Finn has done the Jonny Craig interview he was going to be allowed on the front person tier list.
Once again a McKenty Video perfectly on time to drive home from work.
Greetings
The bearded Deftones fan from Europe being European
Alice in Chains Unplugged is one of the finest, most flawless live performances ever recorded. No question. And there's no reason to bring Hayley Williams onto this list, she is S tier. Everybody knows that. 👍
What’s up Finn? How is everyone’s day/evening going?
I got 20gs in my bank so I'm hella good
Hi
Fine, man. And how are you?
@@rips187 Nice, good for you dude. 😎
@@eulaliogarcia_comu Not bad.
I love how you drop some controversial takes I *almost* react to till I realize you are trying to get reactions
The significant amount of songs written about Courtney Love being a horrible person should qualify her for F Tier.
Watched Everlast complain about Pringles using "Jump Around" in a commercial at a concert once. They proceeded to play a Pringles commercial on the screens on either side of the stage while he was setting up for his next song.
that dr drew hypothesis had me dying. those stupid pretty people haha
I love these
He had me dieing when he started talking about Courtney Lovelol
3 parts and still haven't heard about Oli Sykes
I remember seeing Arch Enemy/Trivium tour and Alissa broke her in ear monitors 3 songs in and did the rest of the set without hearing herself or her bandmates, they had no stage monitors. That’s a high class act and vocalist, especially in the age of technology where in ears are everything.
She was great in The Agonist
I remember Incubus - Drive being one of those overplayed radio songs back then lol
There's actually videos on donut operators channel of him and Danny hanging out with the Black Rifle coffee guys it's either donut operator or it might be Demolition Ranch but I know they all hung out just can't remember whose channel it's on
Howard Jones? I thought you were talking about the 80s synth pop guy til you said "metalcore" 😂
I think Deftones, Incubus, and Slipknot are some of the only ones who got away with the turntables. Some atmosphere added on songs just work.
Davey Havok would bring a delicious vegan dish to the bbq
wow, i havent bought or listened to Arch Enemy in well over a decade... but I am back into them now after watching that clip of their new material
Great comment about danny " He went from singing not the american average to being THE american average"
"Fifty two times more likely to start a fight with you"...Bahahahahahaha!!!
Whenever you make that video about Evanescence, you gotta talk about how not only were they retconned into being “good actually” but also seemingly retconned into being emo. I see Bring Me To Life on all sorts of emo playlists on Spotify right next to MCR and Fall Out Boy. I always thought they were nu Metal but I guess we’re wrong.
A totally forgotten and underrated vocalist is Martin Fry from the band ABC. They had a lot of hits in the 80s but have since been forgotten, but I saw them live back in 2016 and they were amazing. Martin is in his 60s but he’s still an incredible vocalist, and the band themselves are pretty underrated for 80s pop standards
You HAVE to do a tattoo tour Finn
I was lucky enough to see STP with Scott and he was sober and put on a 2 hour great show in a small venue.
would love too see this for hc
My sister was a waitress in a bar and everlast pulled a "dont you know who i am?" Because she wasn't going out of her way to take care of him before everyone else. She told him she knew who he was, and that she didn't care.
While Johnny rotten is incredibly overbearing, he at least attempted to blow the whistle on Jimmy Saville, so thag rises him by a tier imo
Oohhh boy, I have to go find her isolated guitar tracks for a good laugh
Call Me When You're Sober is one of the best songs of the 00s and Amy Lee is a top vocalist.
Please get Shifty Shellshock on for an interview so we can finally shed light on where that finger actually been !!
Wtf 😂
I totally unironicaly liked Danny's country album.
"lose at smash bros and blame the controller" hahahahahahaha