I saw a video and for a long time Caleb didn’t know how to scream properly so he actually got coached by a harsh vocal coach and learned how to keep a similar sound without hurting himself
Note for passerby: Caleb Shomo isn't using common contemporary definitions for vocal registers in this tiktok. So, here's a key for the more common terms... Full Voice: Chest Voice/Mixed Voice Falsetto: Head Voice Head Voice: Mixed voice
You should teach your attack attack vocal style back when you were doing Lows. If you can even still do them in which I don't know if you still can or not but both sound awesome
@@lessurHis technique was fine. The problem is he probably warm up properly and he pushed too much air out. I was more concerned with the way they headbanged. I do it too but it definitely looks like it could cause long term damage.
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
See I'm kinda the opposite. I know how to do it the wrong way that sounds bad and hurts, but no matter how many times it's explained to me i just don't understand how to do it correctly 🤨 so it's loud and open..? How do i like... "place it" correctly, or articulate the muscles, or whatever? If anyone has tips I'm all ears!! I've been trying to get it for years 😅
He tells you how to place his scream in the video. He says "head voice", but for most people they would consider that "mixed voice". Basically chest pick a note in the middle of your chest voice and make it resonate in your head. I would not necessarily encourage you to copy him, but it's up to you...
I'd consider shouts a kind of scream sub-type. A good chunk of popular vocalists use/used some form of shout, and everybody generally considers what those guys do some kind of scream. Chester Bennington (Linkin Park), Sam Carter (Architects), Jon Mess (Dance Gavin Dance), Oli Sykes (Bring Me The Horizon), Kellin Quinn (Sleeping with Sirens), Darius Tehrani (Spite), Bryan Garris (Knocked Loose), the list goes on. All these guy's shouts/yells are considered screams, so why shouldn't Caleb's be considered a scream too? Even if it has a whining aspect to it, other vocalists that use this whining aspect are still considered to be doing screams (Dan Watson or Phil Bozeman for example)
Yes, but all mixed voice really is tho if you think about it is learning to smooth your transition into chest/head and then making your notes resonate certain ways to seem chestier/headier. With that being said, you can do this exact same thing in chest voice and get a result. However, because you aren't making the chest voice note resonate as much in your head/mask (instead making it resonate more in your chest), you may end up with a different kind of scream that uses a different kind of distortion in a different way. Same deal if you did this in head voice, falsetto, or flageolet
Uh. I mean bad listener? He still does it live up to now……so what point are you trying to make? The fact he can sing really fucking well. But you’re mad he doesn’t scream enough?
I wouldn't say it's "wrong", just definitions that are no longer in common usage outside of niche circles. Kinda like the grunt and vocal fry methods for screaming from the 90s. Can they get you sounds that resemble screams? Yeah, but you gotta alter everything to actually get a safe fry/fc scream, conciously or unconciously.
@KornyRock exactly. He even demonstrates two different versions of mix. The first one, when going through the different registers, is a heady mix, whereas the following examples that he uses to get into the fry scream are a chesty mix.
@@AnguishForYourGreedIL honestly imo they fell off, not feeling the last 2 albums. Don’t like the love yourself aspect. Nothing wrong with it but I like the old stuff, you would feel them lyrics
@TheShmrsh He used to be in Attack Attack!, now he's the singer and main harsh vocalist in Beartooth. It's a really big post-hardcore band from Ohio that's signed to Red Bull Records (if memory serves). If you wanna hear how it sounds mixed, check out Beartooth's stuff (second album onward, he started using this tech after a vocal blowout). To be honest, I kinda dig the sound. Then again, I listen to skramz so... yeah...
He'll be having surgery if he keeps this up, fucking clueless... Just because it sounds great, doesn't mean you aren't doing damage. Don't try to teach until you've been taught.
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
THIS IS FROM CALEB SHOMO'S TIK TOK
I saw a video and for a long time Caleb didn’t know how to scream properly so he actually got coached by a harsh vocal coach and learned how to keep a similar sound without hurting himself
Good ol ‘Malissa cross
@@patrickstar6247 she's an absolute LEGEND of a voice coach. She's worked w/ so many great metal artists
This guy is an incredible musician, much respect
He does it so casually!
We ❤ you, Caleb!
Damn he really just did the line from The Surface. AUUHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh
Awesome!
I love Beartooth
Youre up on the mountain. dont come down 💕
Thanks for sharing
Note for passerby: Caleb Shomo isn't using common contemporary definitions for vocal registers in this tiktok. So, here's a key for the more common terms...
Full Voice: Chest Voice/Mixed Voice
Falsetto: Head Voice
Head Voice: Mixed voice
Caleb ❤
Yep
You should teach your attack attack vocal style back when you were doing Lows. If you can even still do them in which I don't know if you still can or not but both sound awesome
it was super unhealthy tho
@@lessurHis technique was fine. The problem is he probably warm up properly and he pushed too much air out.
I was more concerned with the way they headbanged. I do it too but it definitely looks like it could cause long term damage.
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
@@brandoncooke6564 it's not a personal opinion it's a copy pasta from r/Emo lol
@@brandoncooke6564r/whoosh
the last phrase is great❤
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
@@AnguishForYourGreedIL real emo is a state of mind... and music of course)
@@emo_kid_2006 wooooooooooooooosh
@@AnguishForYourGreedIL bruh tf is wrong with you? just because of nickname u wrote that shit?
@@AnguishForYourGreedILLOL
Your screams at the show I saw you at in New Haven at Toads sounded shot
I'm not Caleb Shomo, last show I did was like July 😂
See I'm kinda the opposite. I know how to do it the wrong way that sounds bad and hurts, but no matter how many times it's explained to me i just don't understand how to do it correctly 🤨 so it's loud and open..? How do i like... "place it" correctly, or articulate the muscles, or whatever?
If anyone has tips I'm all ears!! I've been trying to get it for years 😅
He tells you how to place his scream in the video. He says "head voice", but for most people they would consider that "mixed voice". Basically chest pick a note in the middle of your chest voice and make it resonate in your head. I would not necessarily encourage you to copy him, but it's up to you...
This is also how Brian garris does his vocals
so no fry screaming with this guy aye?!
I mean it's *technically* a fry scream but like Caleb doing Caleb fr
You talented beautiful amazing perfect man 🥺
Suddenly very horney
And this kids, this is how you get vocal fold damage😂
He doesn’t scream he just shouts and whines
I'd consider shouts a kind of scream sub-type. A good chunk of popular vocalists use/used some form of shout, and everybody generally considers what those guys do some kind of scream. Chester Bennington (Linkin Park), Sam Carter (Architects), Jon Mess (Dance Gavin Dance), Oli Sykes (Bring Me The Horizon), Kellin Quinn (Sleeping with Sirens), Darius Tehrani (Spite), Bryan Garris (Knocked Loose), the list goes on. All these guy's shouts/yells are considered screams, so why shouldn't Caleb's be considered a scream too? Even if it has a whining aspect to it, other vocalists that use this whining aspect are still considered to be doing screams (Dan Watson or Phil Bozeman for example)
Isnt that mixed voice fam?
Yes, but all mixed voice really is tho if you think about it is learning to smooth your transition into chest/head and then making your notes resonate certain ways to seem chestier/headier.
With that being said, you can do this exact same thing in chest voice and get a result. However, because you aren't making the chest voice note resonate as much in your head/mask (instead making it resonate more in your chest), you may end up with a different kind of scream that uses a different kind of distortion in a different way. Same deal if you did this in head voice, falsetto, or flageolet
I ain't Caleb Shomo btw
Funny because he barely screams through a whole song lol
Listen to the first album
@@cameronneal4 the first album over a decade ago lol. Studio. I've seen him live even with attack attack. Not great live.
@@crowing3886 Oh, gotcha! You're saying he doesn't scream through a whole song live?
@@crowing3886 That makes sense, given the context of the video 😂
Uh. I mean bad listener? He still does it live up to now……so what point are you trying to make?
The fact he can sing really fucking well. But you’re mad he doesn’t scream enough?
Cool, false chord
When has Beartooth ever even played a single 90 minute set? Why exaggerate so much? So weird.
Caleb be doing Caleb
Yeah, it's like 75 minutes including 15 minutes of padding towards the end.😂
He didn't explain anything
I'm always amazed when professional singers/screamers have no idea about vocal anatomy and use wrong terms to describe basic stuff.
I wouldn't say it's "wrong", just definitions that are no longer in common usage outside of niche circles.
Kinda like the grunt and vocal fry methods for screaming from the 90s. Can they get you sounds that resemble screams? Yeah, but you gotta alter everything to actually get a safe fry/fc scream, conciously or unconciously.
He means mixed instead of head, what he calls falsetto is his head voice, falsetto is improper closure of true cords
@KornyRock exactly. He even demonstrates two different versions of mix. The first one, when going through the different registers, is a heady mix, whereas the following examples that he uses to get into the fry scream are a chesty mix.
@@-xlntc91x- he's essentially doing a chesty mixed voice fry, sometimes soft palate oriented
I’ve seen them mad times and every time his voice is shit and lost, so idk what he’s talking about lol
He's doing better than Oli Sykes at least, that's all you can really hope for in modern metal 😂
Performing every day on a tour will do that to anyone tho
@@KekeeBlack I get that
@@AnguishForYourGreedIL honestly imo they fell off, not feeling the last 2 albums. Don’t like the love yourself aspect. Nothing wrong with it but I like the old stuff, you would feel them lyrics
As a vocalist I can say. U don't know sht😂
I'm not caleb shomo
He lost and blew out his voice really bad in Brisbane last year. Man bear tooth sucks.
Sounds horrible dude
Well tell that to Caleb Shomo, that's literally a clip of him demonstrating his scream 🤷♂️
@@AnguishForYourGreedIL I don't know who he is and in which band he sings but dude is just not vocalist
@TheShmrsh He used to be in Attack Attack!, now he's the singer and main harsh vocalist in Beartooth. It's a really big post-hardcore band from Ohio that's signed to Red Bull Records (if memory serves). If you wanna hear how it sounds mixed, check out Beartooth's stuff (second album onward, he started using this tech after a vocal blowout). To be honest, I kinda dig the sound. Then again, I listen to skramz so... yeah...
He'll be having surgery if he keeps this up, fucking clueless... Just because it sounds great, doesn't mean you aren't doing damage. Don't try to teach until you've been taught.
Would be cool if you showed how to do your growls when you were in Attack Attack!
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE