There's some nice minor updates over the 170R and it seems like a great overall package, but the asking price of $1100 is just unacceptable. The price of markers have just gotten out of hand and it's hurting the sport. This should've been ~$799 and it'd be much more compelling.
Imagine how we felt back in 05’ paying a grand for a Timmy 😂. Markers haven’t changed much in price points. My 05’ E-Oracle was around a grand/1100 ish as well.
@@gamingwithaiden9751 TM40 was my first top tier marker. I then shot the DSR+ and couldn't believe that it wasn't a top tier gun from how it shoots. I would highly recommend shooting both before making the purchase on one. Or get both!
@PunishersPaintball I definitely second this and now considering the new sale price/ used price on shockers it may even have a lot better cost/quality/feature value than the etha3.
In a later comparison video Cody said he likes the cs3 more than the 180r, specifically the ergos of it, yet in this video he says he likes the ergos better on the 180r…
You guys got the best gun testing videos.. call me crazy but the asa on the lv2 is better then then new cs3 asa not talking about adjustments I’m talkin as a more reliable and a smother function…new cs3 asa to me feels flimsy weak n feels like it will break on me
the market is crazy right now you got guns from like 2000 - 800 depending on color. All with similar features and give or take a couple pods between all of them efficiency wise, its hard to really justify a more advanced board either because at least for most lets be honest we are only going to use a couple modes and tournament lock so is it really worth it idek anymore lmao
let me chime in real quick you could be doing this with any barrel a popular thing thats been around forever is people would just get whatever barrel they have and you get them all bored for freak inserts so if you already had a freak kit your good to go but since most stuff is ac thread nowadays you could probably take a barrel you already own send it in have it bored for whatever insert kit you want or already own and just run that on your whole line up
My only concern was with the s63 barrel sleeve actually extending our past the threads, I knew about the boring to fit freek inserts but they go all the way into the barrel , I guess my question is will it work with the s63 barrel sleeves .
@@BAGofTALENT If you want to use those inserts on your old barrel, you need to mill out the back piece (all the way) AND the front piece (part of the way). AND you need to cut the thread section on the back shorter. I'd just buy a full S63 kit in that case and sell off the old barrel if you want.
whenever i watch marker reviews they almost never use this angle. when i see a marker shoot one of the main things i look for is accuracy. but they never show it like this. not sure why... its simple. subscribed
This is stupid. Not the video. This release. I mean at 1100 bucks they priced it way to high. It’s going to actually hurt cs3 sales why should anyone spend 1800 for a cs3 now at the entry to mid level price it’s like emek or fle mech from inception
If I would have known this was being released I would have never bought my cs3 and just bought 2 of these I mean I absolutely no reason to get a cs3 over this
Same thing with the 170r/Cs2, the 180r will be the "cheap" version of the Cs3. I still don't understand why people buy a Cs2/Cs3 over the mid range category guns (170r/amp/DSR+)
This is more efficient than a cs3, costs less than a cs3, shoots just the same as a cs3, and looks better to me than a cs3…. PE just killed the cs3 themselves lol
Basically the same gun 170r for more money 180r ! What a farce . There is NO hugs upgrade in performance . Totally NOT worth the extra money it costs .
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There's some nice minor updates over the 170R and it seems like a great overall package, but the asking price of $1100 is just unacceptable. The price of markers have just gotten out of hand and it's hurting the sport. This should've been ~$799 and it'd be much more compelling.
Just buy a cheaper older gun that you can play at a high level with ?
Imagine how we felt back in 05’ paying a grand for a Timmy 😂. Markers haven’t changed much in price points. My 05’ E-Oracle was around a grand/1100 ish as well.
@@timmymccheee7213 damn that brings back memories. those were the days
Nice thing is 90% of a 170 is in an etha 3 and everything else. So you'll still be able to get everything you need to maintain the gun for years.
@@PaintballaJkilla Getting back into playing after a 10 year hiatus. Been fun resurrecting the old gear.
damn boy .. you were quick to get that marker! great vid..
DSR+ is still the best bang for your buck IMO. I shoot a TM40 and still can't believe how well the DSR feels.
how does the tm40 feel? I wanna get one. its still better than the dsr+ though right
@@gamingwithaiden9751 TM40 was my first top tier marker. I then shot the DSR+ and couldn't believe that it wasn't a top tier gun from how it shoots. I would highly recommend shooting both before making the purchase on one. Or get both!
Agreed
What did yall have it set to in the end? That marker was absolutely rippin! Keep up the great work and content! Cheers!
yeah gonna stick with my LV
Can we get a 180r x shocker amp video ..with shot comparisons!
They’re all coming! Stay tuned
@PunishersPaintball I definitely second this and now considering the new sale price/ used price on shockers it may even have a lot better cost/quality/feature value than the etha3.
I'm kinda disappointed you didn't test it on the trampoline...
I have a dsr+ that marker shoots phenomenal the trigger. It’s amazing very very responsive.
In a later comparison video Cody said he likes the cs3 more than the 180r, specifically the ergos of it, yet in this video he says he likes the ergos better on the 180r…
Real question is, is the CS3 worth it?
The CS3 shot is different from the cs2. So if you are wanting to upgrade from the cs2 expecting the same shot, it wont be the same
Not if your upgrading from a cs2
It never was
I upgraded from an old Invert Mini, so for me it’s a yes lol from a cs2 pro? I wouldn’t have done it.
This shoots almost the same for lot less money and is more efficient and looks better in my opinion
So hard to think it will be that much better but always can improve I guess.
You guys got the best gun testing videos.. call me crazy but the asa on the lv2 is better then then new cs3 asa not talking about adjustments I’m talkin as a more reliable and a smother function…new cs3 asa to me feels flimsy weak n feels like it will break on me
Agreed
the market is crazy right now you got guns from like 2000 - 800 depending on color. All with similar features and give or take a couple pods between all of them efficiency wise, its hard to really justify a more advanced board either because at least for most lets be honest we are only going to use a couple modes and tournament lock so is it really worth it idek anymore lmao
Hey Joe, I need that 180r ASAP in my life ship it to me overnight please lol
The real question is does that barrel fit on the 170 ? Because if it does I'm milling mine out and buying those inserts .
It's AC threaded. It'll fit
let me chime in real quick you could be doing this with any barrel a popular thing thats been around forever is people would just get whatever barrel they have and you get them all bored for freak inserts so if you already had a freak kit your good to go but since most stuff is ac thread nowadays you could probably take a barrel you already own send it in have it bored for whatever insert kit you want or already own and just run that on your whole line up
My only concern was with the s63 barrel sleeve actually extending our past the threads, I knew about the boring to fit freek inserts but they go all the way into the barrel , I guess my question is will it work with the s63 barrel sleeves .
@@BAGofTALENT If you want to use those inserts on your old barrel, you need to mill out the back piece (all the way) AND the front piece (part of the way). AND you need to cut the thread section on the back shorter.
I'd just buy a full S63 kit in that case and sell off the old barrel if you want.
Shot one. I’m super mad that it’s so good 😩
i really want one in that pred camo
Is the 180R bolt interchangeable with the 170?
No.
Looks familiar 🤔
Nice so instead of buying the cs3 pick up a 180R. Selling 2 of my 4 170s tonight 😂😂
whenever i watch marker reviews they almost never use this angle. when i see a marker shoot one of the main things i look for is accuracy. but they never show it like this. not sure why... its simple. subscribed
180r vs DSR+
vs CS3
Etc… etc.
This is stupid. Not the video. This release. I mean at 1100 bucks they priced it way to high. It’s going to actually hurt cs3 sales why should anyone spend 1800 for a cs3 now at the entry to mid level price it’s like emek or fle mech from inception
If I would have known this was being released I would have never bought my cs3 and just bought 2 of these I mean I absolutely no reason to get a cs3 over this
@@geebs8732 100% cs3 values about to tank off the map
Same thing with the 170r/Cs2, the 180r will be the "cheap" version of the Cs3. I still don't understand why people buy a Cs2/Cs3 over the mid range category guns (170r/amp/DSR+)
need 180r compare to other guns video
Coming ASAP!!
They will
This is more efficient than a cs3, costs less than a cs3, shoots just the same as a cs3, and looks better to me than a cs3…. PE just killed the cs3 themselves lol
Can it connect to ur hopper ?
Does it shoot better than the dsr?
Hell no
Dsr killer..??
Basically the same gun 170r for more money 180r ! What a farce . There is NO hugs upgrade in performance . Totally NOT worth the extra money it costs .
Too pricey
Cs3 all the way
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3rd hehe.
Lol paintball guns shoot like 50 ft 😂
All the people complaining about price probably never buy new anyways so shut up.
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