King's Quest 2 - A Bridge Too Far...
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Sierra continues its classic adventure series, telling a love story that is inexplicably full of death.
Thank you to Andrew Huntly for helping with the script, and to my friends for their valued feedback.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:05 i - No Queens?
10:20 ii - I Got Confused...
21:49 iii - KQDQ
23:53 iv - The Rest Will Be Fine...Right?
29:52 v - Wife For Life
34:18 Conclusion
36:22 Credits
38:53 It's...
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Music
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past "Link's Epoch" by Joshua Morse - ocremix.org/remix/OCR02331
King's Quest VI OC ReMix by MusicallyInspired: "Sailing on the Vaporwaves" [Opening Theme] - ocremix.org/remix/OCR04327
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King and Queen Balcony - By HM Government - coronation.gov.uk/, en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...
King Charles Crowning - By Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office - From Twitter account of Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, CC BY-SA 4.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
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Big Lung - By ChiralJon - Coronation Big Lunch, CC BY 2.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
Coronation Carriage - By Katie Chan - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
Not My King Protests - By Alisdare Hickson from Woolwich, United Kingdom - Parasite - A Word You Won&039;t See in the MSM, CC BY-SA 2.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
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KING'S QUEST 1 REVIEW - ruclips.net/video/uyOzMBn1bUE/видео.html
Just like the last review, this game also kept me up at night, just not for the same reasons.
I really hope you'll eventually cover all of the King's Quest games.
Pls do more of these!!
“Hagatha is riding the batmobile” is not where I was expecting this game to go but it’s hilarious
One of the few times in my life I've done a genuine spit take and almost choked laughing.
i was desperately hoping he'd encounter the batmobile. yay!
I love when games have that *one* totally out of pocket joke. The batmobile was that here.
Was that in the game? It seemed a bit too ridiculous.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596 random event in game in front of her cave. Even a little jingle plays
The “brige gives one point” gag is fucken gold great job on that
Okay so the most hilarious thing about the bridle
In the novelization-walkthrough, the writer just COULD NOT come up with a justification for why Graham would even think to use the bridle on the snake. So what ends up happening is that he draws the sword to kill the snake, but the handle gets caught on the bridle and accidentally tosses it on the snake.
Seriously.
oh, hi Rick. Small world lol
That does feel like a totally plausible scenario by Sierra Adventure Game Standards.
I love how in space quest 3, on a desert planet with a giant sand worm, and if you try to "throw bridle on snake" the narrator will chide you for trying it saying something along the lines of "you've been playing too much kings quest"
Okay so regarding the limited bridge crossing thing, Sierra DEFINITELY learned their lesson with that as in one of the space quest games (I think its the first one in Ulace flats) has a similar crumbling cliff that you can only cross it a few times, but the game ACTUALLY indicates this by adding a crack that gets bigger and bigger after each crossing attempt. It's a little thing but it really communicated the idea better. It's also something you'll only need to do 3 times so...
I might be misremembering, but I think you get more then 3 crossings too. Like you had some wiggle room in exploring
It was in SQ1. I always thought Ulence Flats was a pretty cool sci-fi name, until I realized it was an anagram for:
@@andreas.soderlund I mean, it just showed me that you can make anything sound like a cool sci-fi name, even farts
@@andreas.soderlundwhat is it
@@ewanb1086 You have to remove the s so it's not a real anagram, but close enough. :) Remove the s and switch the words.
I've gone to church my whole life, and the phrase "this world feels like God gave himself longer than a week and started getting weird" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Immediate thumbs up. Thank you, Power Pak.
28:38 bro dropped the hardest kings quest 2 edit and thought we wouldn't notice
What is the name this track
@@Ippi8D It's the boss music for an NES game called Plok.
The floating skull sent my sides to the Lagrange point
Old adventure games really show us the importance of QA testers
This is why I never really got into adventure games until the Secret of Monkey Island. Those cheap deaths were a real killjoy.
I generally don't mind deaths in Sierra games. For me, the killjoy of adventure games is (most) dead-man-walking scenarios like with that bridge.
As a child I was fascinated by the worlds of King's quest and riven and myst, but I was never good enough to beat any of those games and I never looked up any walkthroughs because the internet was still so young, and so was I, it just didn't cross my mind that I could do it.
I also played The neverhood and The curse of monkey Island, and got stuck in those, but again those were such fascinating worlds I just loved playing them anyway. Much more fascinating and dynamic than the King's quest games.
Later the kinds of games I ended up enjoying and spending a lot of time in were things like oblivion and Skyrim, worlds where I could just wander around messing about and interacting with stuff without necessarily progressing. With those games I did eventually beat them but it was just a minor aspect of the experience.
I don't really have a point to all this but I think basically what it means is that one doesn't have to even beat a game to find it fun and exciting and have replay value. Especially when you're young and don't have many other options I guess.
As an adult I don't really think I have any interest in going back and trying to beat these because I know that it would just be a series of frustrated resets and eventual walkthrough lookups, considering that at least some of the games were designed to force you to have to call Sierra to figure out how to progress.
@@R2Bl3nd I'm not cynical enough to think that any of those games were designed to force you to have to call Sierra to figure out how to progress. Having designed some adventure games myself, I know how hard it is to see things from the player's perspective and how easy it is to make something unfair by accident. You also don't know how well you'd fare at those games until you try.
@@alexanderfreeman there's literally a part in King's quest 4 where you have to know that there is a particularly named item that is completely 100% obscured from view and your character cannot see it with any look commands but instead has to know to pick it up by name. It's not cynicism, it's pure fact and well documented. That's just one instance of it.
@@R2Bl3nd If you're referring to the bridle on the island, you actually can see it with the LOOK command. Part of the ground is obscured by a boat wreck, and if you face that part and type LOOK GROUND, you will pick up the bridle
Please tell me this will go all the way to the King's Quest of today.
I hope he at least plays the 3rd one lol
Agreed! I need him to play every single one of those, it is just so entertaining.
The King's Quest of 2011 you mean? But still, that's the King's Quest of the FUTURE since it has Doc Brown.
@@-taz- It came out in 2015, but the spirit is there lol It DOES have Doc Brown, you're right about that
@@SpiderNightcrawler Oh yeah that's right. It's hard to keep track with all this time travel!
The whole "cross the bridge _at most_ 7 times" thing feels like something out of a more surreal adventure-game like Armed and Delirious.
Welcome to Sierra games
More like Armed With a Squeegee.
"Who would ever think to do this?"
Using Plok’s theme for the brambles was editing genius.
Every musical choice in this video is a gem
26:45 "We did the monster mash" - legit belly-laughed, amazing 🤣😂 The deal with the bridge is a common one in adventure games and it was SOOO easy to accidentally soft-lock your game without realizing it. I'll never forget playing a point-and-click game where I had a coil of rope in my inventory and used it to access a shed roof....not realizing that I would need that rope to enter the villain's below-ground lair at the end of the damn game. The shed was in the second chapter. The game had THIRTEEN GODDAMN CHAPTERS. I was almost a week's worth of playtime into the game before I discovered I was stuck and when I finally broke down and checked a walkthrough....I legit cried. Bawled my eyes out. I was only 14 and had invested a ton of my time into the game, was so proud to have gotten so far....and I was basically gonna have to play the whole bloody thing all over again. Apparently, I was supposed to FIND the shed and note that there was something on the roof but not be curious enough to check it out. In an adventure game. I was supposed to notice it and then leave it unexplored (again, *in an adventure game*), play to the final chapter and climb down to the lair, take the LADDER I found there, climb back up and retrieve the rope, GO BACK to the shed and use the rope, THEN go to the lair and use the ladder to climb down.
I - WAS - LIVID.
I can't remember being so insanely angry at someone I didn't even know, before or since, and I still boil with rage when I think about it. It's been 30 years and I still, in my heart of hearts, wish the most hateful shit on those developers.
Cheap deaths, I could handle, but soft-locking the player with the most stupid shit logic was cheaper than cheap. It was grotesquely cruel and not in a "Dark Souls/GIT GUD" sort of way, more like a "toxic relationship" sort of way, i.e., "well, you should've KNOWN you couldn't do that! No, I'm *not* going to tell you what you did wrong, if you loved me you'd already know!"
Lucasarts never did this kind of bullshit - and I guess that's why they were so well-regarded by people who enjoyed adventure games. Stupid insane puzzles I can let by, pixel-hunting I can somehow tolerate, even cheap deaths I can withstand, but this kind of softlocking is downright cruel. It doesn't make the game "difficult", it just makes the game BAD.
Nowadays, I would ask for a refund from the fuckers. Too bad things weren't as easy in the 80s and 90s haha.
soft-locks were only common on BAD adventure games. I think it's POSSIBLE to soft-lock yourself in games like Maniac Mansion, but it really takes effort and/or extreme stupidity.
"Give Exploded Hamster Parts to Weird Ed" or drain the pool that cools the nuclear reactor, send one of your kids to the bottom, and fill the pool with radioactive water while they're walking around the bottom.
@@BrowncoatFairy Maniac Mansion (and also Zak McKraken) got around this... mostly... by giving you multiple ways to complete the game. They're still really difficult but if you lock yourself out of one ending you can usually manage another at the very least.
I do prefer the later design choice of "no softlocking, period". At the time a lot of adventure game aficionados thought that LucasArts was dumbing down the adventure game because you were SUPPOSED to get into a rhythm of keeping scores of saves and connecting them with red yarn and anyone who didn't do that just didn't get the appeal.
@@rickpgriffin well, if there's multiple always to solve something and one is lost, it's not really "soft locking", is it? But yeah, maybe you want to figure every possible combination, and having to backtrack to an earlier save to be able to get one of the solutions still sound annoying.
What was the game?
I doubt you'll actually be making videos on all of the King's Quest games, but if you are you'll have a supporter for life. King's Quest VI is not only one of the most memorable games to sprout from Sierra's series of adventure games, but it was also the very first game I played on CD-ROM. If you ever get around to it, you'll have made at least one of your viewers a very, very happy man.
If you want to play a sort of similar game check out "The journeyman project" it was my first CD ROM game on my 486.
It has time travel and creepy sci-fi themes and used to scare the living shit out of me as a kid! I'm sure it could be emulated similarly to other games at the time!
Please do all the King's quest games at some point They're awesome to look back on and your commentary makes the video incredible. Even if you're mostly in pain! Hahaha
That random Batmobile appearance threw me for a loop. What the hell.
you and every kid in 1985
So glad you got to see the batmobile. I had some friends that were playing the game at the same time back in the day, and one of us (I can't remember who) mentioned seeing it and the other couldn't believe it because it was such a rare event.
As for those cursed brambles, I remember having to keep swapping between the game and save disk to save the game every time I inched a little further along that path, it was awful.
I'd highly recommend playing the fan remake of this game, they did a fantastic job of expanding the locations you can visit, and developing the storyline - including the connection between granny and Dracula (if memory serves).
“Oh my god it’s granny! Just kidding… it’s the wolf” is such a clever use of subversion. I love your sense of humor
This was really fun to watch. Though I got legit angry at that bridge thing, lol.
Unhinged progression aside, I was genuinely impressed by how much the art improved. As you said, it gives a better sense of scale and is just detailed enough to better differentiate one item from the next.
I forgot how insane these games were. Who would have thought to use a bridle on the snake?
21:55 Probably faster than going backward through the saves until you hit one with no unlocks and then counting how many crosses you can do before collapse, at very least.
God save the king.
Throwing the bridle at the snake to get a sugar cube is the most Roberta Williams thing I have ever heard about.
As some who played these games back in the 80s without hints I'm having flashbacks to the trauma these puzzles caused me. Loving this series. Do all the space quest and king's quest games. Lot's of great moments to make fun of.
The bridge points gag is the most funniest shit ive seen on youtube since early ytps, great video by the way
When I was younger, I spent a lot of time playing King's Quest 1, 3, 4, and 5, but somehow had never actually tried this one. This was a great way to see what it's about. Thanks for doing this!
I know that you probably won't see this but this video just made my day, I love watching you review old or "bad" video games you are hilarious, keep up the good work
The feeling of dread I felt for you when you found the bridge was immeasurable. You captured that feeling beautiful, I was lmao
I played these games when they came out and am fully invested in this series. I played every Sierra game I could get. Space Quest was the best series, but I loved them all.
I think we can all agree Al Lowe drew the princess.
babe is stacked.
This is a fantastic series-I can't wait for you to continue!
I love obtuse old adventure game content like this. I feel like I just dont see enough of it on RUclips!
18:37 Gotta love the adventure game mindset where you KNOW that asking it politely is a viable option, LOL
After watching you play through this and King's Quest 1, I'm honestly amazed that video games continued to be a thing that people expected to enjoy.
You can also slay the lion at 32:46 instead of feeding it the ham, though the game awards you fewer points for such cruelty.
Fingers crossed you come back to Sierra adventures in the near future, this was great
The Black Cauldron might be an interesting one to try. Apparently you can solve it the same way that the book went, but you get more points for thinking outside the book.
At least it wasn't the movie.
Fun fact: the movie almost killed Disney.
15:32, oh god the bridge is a W'rkncacnter. ...and you can only cross it *_SEVEN_* times. ...a'ight, I'm gonna go escape back into the waves again.
Also, since Jack likes his Quake (same, fam), I wonder what his thoughts are on Arcane Dimensions? I'd argue it's probably one of the best Quake mods out there, and the only reason it wasn't included in the Quake remaster's selection of "addons" is probably because it uses a bunch of assets and altered enemies from Hexen II, meaning that at the time it would've gotten tangled up in Activision corpo bullshit if it was included as part of a paid release.
I'm really liking these videos! The XCX skell flying music was a nice touch for the flying carpet, good on ya.
15:17 Always love a good use of Aquatic Ambience. Whenever there's any kind of water, someone puts on Aquatic Ambience. I take a bath? Aquatic Ambience. At the pool? Break out the boom box, time for DO DO DOOOOO. DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DOOO DOOO-DO-DO.
6:28 “otherwise my rig would make Graham go so fast he’d end up in a parallel universe” clutch Mario 64 TAS reference, followed by Wet Dry World music 🤌
I think the snake puzzle might be a mix of a pun (bridle snake is a species of snake) with a mythological reference (the mother of the Pegasus is Medusa).
I mean, it seems so obvious in hindsight; "throw bridal on snake", all the clues were there staring us in the moon-logic lobe of our brain!
@@MagusMarquillin oh man the phrase "moon logic" brought me back to that Old Man Murray article about the Death of Adventure Games and that Gabriel Knight 3 puzzle to rent a moped.
@@BrowncoatFairy Oh is that where the phrase originated? I suppose it's just a way to say it's basically lunacy (a condition people used to attribute to the moon).
It was a hell of a thing, but I managed to rent that bike without any help - it was an insane puzzle, particularly sticking cat hair to your lip with syrup to look like someone who has no mustache, lol - I still enjoyed figuring it out.
It's kind of stolkholm syndrome though, you might grow attached, but we're probably better off being logical, as the very alive adventure genre has mostly done.
Thank you for this video @Power Pak 👍 your king’s quest 1 video had me laughing through the whole video. 🤣 I have my fingers crossed that one day you will do Space Quest.😅
This was a blast to watch. I'd love to see you play the Space Quest games. The dead-ending is just as brutal as these games, but at least they're funny!
Excellent! I really enjoyed this. I'd love to see a Hugo playthrough!
Great video. Holding thumbs for KQIII.
Oh god, that bridge trap. I played this around the time it came out and I still have trauma from that experience. Sierra was really lucky being the first and that there were relatively so few games to play back then. But at least the next game you'll be playing (SQ1) should be fun (and frustrating... but the mood makes up for it somewhat.)
As someone who really enjoyed heavy rain abridged im glad to see you have a booming channel now doing stuff you like. And also playing kings quest, looking forward to more adventure game suffering
Excited to hear that you’re continuing this series!
Your choice of music was superb. Laughed my head off at the Xenoblade x flying music.
Love the use of Link's Awakening soundtrack in the background!
Omg I can’t believe they made a game out of the funny Minecraft painting
Wonderful video about my favorite game franchise. Don't judge me I was a child and I was unaware games could be bad or poorly designed and it burrowed itself deep into my mind. As a major fan of old school adventure games and this one in particular I just want you to know that there is 0 shame in breaking the no walk through seal on this one. I'm suspect of anyone who says they beat this game without one, honestly.
Looking forward to Space Quest! It's less hellish than this, and pretty funny at times! KQ 3 is also less nightmarish when you get to it, though still very VERY strict.
I really appreciate that you put Digimon world soundtrack, always keeps the good mood. Also this game looks like a hell expirence to get throught gj!
Excellent video, bullshit game, exquisite soundtrack! You've managed to include all of the best songs from my favourite games. I smiled when I heard the Vinculum Gate theme, then Iaughed when I heard the Plok boss theme!
Bravo, sir.
28:36 A certified King’s Quest B A N G E R 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
My favourite thing about sierra games is how missing an item or making a mistake in the first ten mins of the game can soft lock you, but you don't find out till the end haha
Edit: Yep, like the bridge and ham!
To be fair, most of Sierra's output didn't have this issue, but many of the early games have an example of this, and the Kings Quest, their flagship series, was particularly egregious until KQ7. At least it rarely corrupted more then a short portion of the game - why this bridge was SO notorious - but it was all the same if you didn't keep multiple save slots!
I absolutely loved this video and your last Kings Quest one! Would love to see you do more old Sierra games if you feel like them!
Great video. I hope you do more of these classic adventure game walkthroughs.
mate I know it's hella frustrating for you but it was an absolute delight watching you play this game with really nice editing and humour, hope you play those games and keep manking videos about them
The bridge thing happened to me when I played. Luckily, once you know what to do, it's super quick to restart the game. The game took initially took me a while to complete in 1987. This was considered fun back then. I think this was one of my 1st PC games on the Tandy 1000 EX.
King's Quest on the Tandy 1000! Every time you moved to a new screen, it took about 30 seconds to load. And you could hear all the gears turning inside the computer. 🤣
Oh boy, if you thought KQII was cruelly designed then KQIII is going to be an experience. I hope you enjoy mandatory time limits.
The Plok boss music made me laugh out loud haha made it way more intense , love your videos man keep it up ! Cheers from Canada
Al Lowe used to be a middle school music teacher before working for Sierra, he created the Leisure Suit Larry theme
Im going to sit here and pray for the day you get to Quest for Glory. My favorite Sera game series
I laughed at 15:32 and 15:54 way more than I should've, I was NOT expecting the prowler sfx
This is an absolutely fascinating series of reviews, and I'm glad I found your channel.
It's really hard to find information about those games that will explain exactly how brutal they can be. After all, walkthroughs and longplays will mostly show successful runs, and an unedited stream of games like that seems like an absolute nightmare.
"You do not want to forget the ham." Fuck yes
Great work! Really like the way you present your feelings and your line of thought working your way through. Very calming.
Maybe one day we will get the space quest video
Loved this review, hope you keep up this series or more old sierra games.
Please do the rest of them and the space quest series!
your "quest" series is absolutely amazing and I want more
This video and the other Kings Quest one have become weirdly comforting for me, i watch them a lot. Thank you
You have a wonderful voice for my insomnia and im very grateful for it, thank you
Love recognizing all the old game music you play XD from Rayman to DKC.
I love your Kings Quest videos. I've been holding on to the rage over these games I love for 30 years lol
This is awesome. I love it. Any plans to do the rest of the King's Quest games?
So glad you are doing the next one!
Great video with great humor! I wouldn't mind more videos about adventure games from you :)
This is great! Reminds me when I was a kid an my grandfather walked me through how to beat all of these games!! Please do the rest of them as well as Quest for Glory series!! Shadows of Darkness is still my favorite point an click adventure game!
as soon as you mentioned the bridge the gears in my head started to turn and I uttered a single phrase
"this sounds like Clock Tower Ghost head"
I wasn't disappointed
play that one, if you dare
I love this series so far
12:38 Do I hear your lovely kitty doing what we in our household call "poppin popcorn"?
I’m new here but just want to say these Kings Quest videos have been outstanding!
See the thing is when this released there weren’t many games out there and gaming was different. Taking a month or more to play and finish these Sierra games was just the way it was. You got stuck, you kicked it around in your head for a day or two and came back. I played this as a seven year old with my dad and older sister and we (well mainly my dad) were able to finish them without hints. My dad even figured out the Rumplestiltskin backwards puzzle from the clues in the game. Definitely A LOT of trial and error. This type of game obviously hasn’t aged well when most people if get stuck will look up a solution after a brief time or just move on to something else altogether. The first two Kings Quest games are what got me into gaming as my imagination ran wild thinking about them. Then Christmas 1987 I got the NES and a brief time later Metroid and Zelda and I was off on my own adventures.
I remember being like 5 years old playing watching my brother at his friends house try and play this game.
I can’t believe I only noticed the XCX Flying song on a rewatch
Ghramn’s not worried ‘bout the future, it’s alright
There’s always other snakes that he can fight
A N O T H E R - P O I N T - G A I N E D
The insanely bright colors burn my eyes but I just can't look away.
Very nice presented :)
Bro you are hilarious. The edits are so good.
Good video. Would love more Sierra games in your videos.
Hilarious video! Love the brambles edit
Love this video. I played King's quest collection with my family as a kid, but KQ2 was the first I played by myself, think I was about 10. It was hard and I don't remember if I actually finished it, i almost did, but it was a good time.
The fan remake is definitely worth checking out. Does a lot of cool shit. Although id suggest waiting til youve gone through at least KQ6 first. Cuz it was CLEARLY coming from the mindset of people who plaued up to then.
god how I love this channel
25:40 the original music was von Bach, the number is Bwv565:Toccata, and it was played by organ. This piece of musik is very unique, so i recommend fellows to have a try : )
That KQ2 AGD Remake is fantastic btw. Great reimagining, one of my favorite adventure games