I'd love to see you do a Best Animated Adaptations at some point. I think it would be easier for you to find better versions of all of these characters in animation.
Keyinan Lonsdale problem with The Flash wasnt the crew or something it was problem with writers, he left because he hated what they did to Wally - basically making him cameo character instead of Barry's partner.
Between all the actresses of Poison Ivy, I'd choose Bridget Regan since she arguably played the most accurate version of the character between all three different live action portrayals
She was good, I couldn't be bothered with watching every episode of *Batwoman* season 3, so when I read that DC only allowed the CW to use Pam for 3 episodes, I figured I'd give it a chance. I wasn't disappointed. I'm also a huge *Gotham* fanboy, so having the actress who played Renée Montoya coming back to play the same character in those episodes was a big bonus for me, even if I was disappointed with what they did with Renée... Sadly, *Batwoman* had some really good adaptations of some DC characters like Poison Ivy, Black Mask, Cluemaster and Stephanie "Spoiler" Brown... but since they were stuck in such a abysmal show, they didn't get the recognition they deserved because no one watched it.
@@randallflagg3700 I agree with you, Poison Ivy, Black Mask, Cluemaster and Stephanie "Spoiler" Brown were great in such a god awful show unfortunately, and deserved some recognition in this list.
Best DC Character Adaptations: Christopher Reeve as Superman (1978) Michelle Pfieffer as Catwoman (1992) Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth (2005 - 2012) Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon (2005 - 2012) Heath Ledger as Joker (2008) Tom Hardy as Bane (2012) Michael Shannon as General Zod (2013) Grant Gustin as Flash (2015) Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman (2017) Robert Pattinson as Batman (2022)
@@hendrix7948 I'm glad you enjoy it. It's not for me. I can't stand people who complain like that, I don't need that shit in my life but again I'm glad you enjoy him and everyone is entitled to enjoy what they want. Obviously the dude doesn't know that.
I’m sorry you feel that way. I hope you can find the comedy in it. Don’t let what he does get you down. Just use it against him with laughing cry face emojis His nasally whiny voice is just so funny.
I disagree with Peyton List being the best adaptation of Poison Ivy because the showrunners of Gotham explained the recasting of Poison Ivy by wanting to move away from the more comedic version played by Maggie Geha into a scarier, more ruthless character played by Peyton List that wasn't good at all in Season 4. Maggie Geha's version of Poison Ivy was way better and they should've stick with her as the official Ivy in the show. Also, I didn't like that she wasn't named Poison Ivy in the show cause that's who she is when she has powers and doesn't even named herself, Poison Ivy.
If you do another one, I would recommend Cisco ramon/vibe from the flash. His comic appearance is kinda bland, with the cw giving him a great personality and a more interesting set of powers. Awesome suit too!
Honestly putting Harley Quinn on the list should’ve waited until Lady Gaga . But since Gaga’s take would be more of a Gritty take anyways I still would give it to Margot Robbie
While there were other issues, and I do agree, Melissa did a good job, the thing that always stuck out to me with Supergirl is that they shouldn't have made her an adult, the reason she's called Supergirl is because she's a teenager; I remember the one flashback episodes looking at the Danvers Sisters as teenagers, and I just wish that was more the show we got, just with Kara acting as Supergirl at that age. I think it's just part of how the Arrowverse and mid 00s-mid 2010s superhero shows and films in general were always resistant to admitting that teenage superheroes were a thing, always aging them up to near adulthood if not all the way. We finally got that kind of teenage superheroes with the likes of Stargirl, hopefully we will see that more in the future, James Gunn, please give us actual teenage sidekicks.
I think DC could do Martian Manhunter similar to how Marvel tried to do hulk. Instead of solo movies he can have his arc be a background element of other movies. Do his origin in the first Justice League and then have him slowly come to enjoy being on Earth. I wouldn't give him a human form until either the end of JL 1 or whatever his second appearance is. I do like him being a freelance detective though and think that's a great setup for him to appear in a batman movie
Yeah you could have him appear in the Superman movies leading up to the JL, and then have him be the connecting tissue for Superman and Green Lantern possibly? Like maybe MM shows up in a GL movie
@@maxcedeno1387 it's okay. funny story in fact Peyton List who played Tory Nichols in Cobra Kai voiced Barbara Gordon/Batgirl in Batman: Hush movie. Which is hilarious cause Peyton List from Gotham and the Flash also voiced Poison Ivy in that same movie.
@@dragonfire4527 - when it comes to DC shows, the Gotham/Flash Peyton List also played in a couple episodes of *Smallville* as Lois Lane's sister, Lucy. I didn't mind when Poison Ivy had her first growth spurt in *Gotham* , after an encounter with that one dude from Fish Mooney's gang of freaks, but the second transformation was a bit overkill IMHO... Still, not sure what the problem with Penguin was, he was one of the most consistent characters in the show. I enjoyed Colin Farrell in *The Batman* (can't wait to watch his own show), but Robin Lord Taylor is still my favorite live action Oswald. His rise to power over 5 seasons was a blast to witness.
I've not been watching the current season of Titans, but the thing with Bernard bothers me because it's another case of the show failing to show some of Tim's early years properly. Tim's acceptance of himself as bi was a late development and shows the evolution of the character. The worst part for me, though, is last season where he tells Dick that he wants to be the next Robin. Early Tim would never have made the request, and didn't. He was even shocked when Alfred pointed out that Dick brought him to the Batcave because he might be the next Robin. His lack of confidence in spite of being an absolute genius is one of Tim's earliest defining characteristics. Additionally, on the character of Bernard... Why do so many DC adaptations make random student age characters into older scientists in live adaptations? I know it's only been two, but it was wrong for both Bernard and for Ronnie Raymond. Actually, I always thought that since his character was a physicist, they should have made Robbie Amell's character Martin Stein, and make Victor Garber (or another elder actor) Ronnie Raymond. Portray Ronnie as a retired underwear model and small time actor who spends his twilight years as an anti-science hippie. Essentially, keeping the characters the same, but reversing their ages. This would have made for a much more interesting dynamic than the idea of two scientists.
For me the biggest problem is the complete misuse of the name Cassandra Cain on a character whose only links to the character from the comics other than name is a Gotham address, lack of a Y chromosome and Asian heritage. However also honestly it's the fact that I knew they were working on a Gotham City Sirens film and scrapped it, when they really shouldn't have. This film is not about the Birds of Prey, it is a Harley Quinn film, Harley is not affiliated with the Birds of Prey in the comics, Gotham City Sirens is a team up of Harley, Catwoman and Poison Ivy. If instead of the Birds, they had made the film a Gotham City Siren's film, maybe have Holly Robinson instead of Cass then at least some of the hate the film got wouldn't have happened.
He's ordering it in terms of the character's that are the most recurring, I'm not sure if that's in the comics, in adaptations or overall but he does mention that Tim was more recurring than Jason, who'll probably show up if he does a third video
Doom Patrol Cyborg > Snyder’s Justice League Cyborg. In terms of characterization and development, Snyder’s version is way, way better than Whedon’s but still doesn’t compare to the Doom Patrol version. I hate the mess that is the JL costume (would fit in the mess of Transformers bad designs) and so even if covered too often I dramatically prefer everything face down for the DP version so the face plate isn’t enough to overcome the character and remainder of the design.
Wally West and the guy that portrays Wallace West in this video shouldn’t be on this list, because the guy is portraying a character that isn’t Wally West, so Wally West and the guy that portrays Wallace West shouldn’t be in this video.
But he is. There’s two different Wally’s that exist within the main universe in the comics. With that being said the Red haired one was and is the original
@@Shazampool so you’re saying having Asher being a shit ton MORE brooding and sad, while Zach is all happy and childish and making them feel like two completely different characters is a good thing? You can’t even justify it as Billy being happy that he has powers bc that’s not at all what billy wants in life
@@nobody-kc2si your just NOT understanding anything when it’s very simple to understand, it’s has literally nothing to do with the writing bc that’s not how that shit works it’s the director who says “how about you do it this way?” And the way that they made Asher (billy) feel like he’s in a family drama movie while Zach (Shazam) is in superhero movie
Best of all-time by far: Christopher Reeve - Superman Michael Keaton - Batman Helen Slater - Supergirl Gal Gadot - Wonder Woman Danny DeVito - Penguin Michelle Pfeiffer - Catwoman Jack Nicholson - The Joker Nicole Maines - Dreamer Terence Stamp - General Zod Gene Hackman - Lex Luthor Ezra Miller - The Flash Jason Mamoa - Aquaman Michael Gough - Alfred Pennyworth Honorable mentions: Brandon Routh - Superman Ben Affleck- Batman Lynda Carter - Wonder Woman Melissa Benoist - Supergirl
I had a huge crush on Juliana Harkavy Black Canary and the short hair looks badass
I'd love to see you do a Best Animated Adaptations at some point. I think it would be easier for you to find better versions of all of these characters in animation.
Keyinan Lonsdale problem with The Flash wasnt the crew or something it was problem with writers, he left because he hated what they did to Wally - basically making him cameo character instead of Barry's partner.
I love Farrell but Lord-Taylor’s Penguin in Gotham was absolutely fantastic
Between all the actresses of Poison Ivy, I'd choose Bridget Regan since she arguably played the most accurate version of the character between all three different live action portrayals
She was good, I couldn't be bothered with watching every episode of *Batwoman* season 3, so when I read that DC only allowed the CW to use Pam for 3 episodes, I figured I'd give it a chance.
I wasn't disappointed.
I'm also a huge *Gotham* fanboy, so having the actress who played Renée Montoya coming back to play the same character in those episodes was a big bonus for me, even if I was disappointed with what they did with Renée...
Sadly, *Batwoman* had some really good adaptations of some DC characters like Poison Ivy, Black Mask, Cluemaster and Stephanie "Spoiler" Brown...
but since they were stuck in such a abysmal show, they didn't get the recognition they deserved because no one watched it.
@@randallflagg3700 I agree with you, Poison Ivy, Black Mask, Cluemaster and Stephanie "Spoiler" Brown were great in such a god awful show unfortunately, and deserved some recognition in this list.
Be blessed merry christmas
Commenting way late on a video, but it has to be said: Red (2010) is the best live-action DC Comics movie. It's sequel is plenty enjoyable, too.
Oh God, thank you for bringing up the age difference between Tim and Bernard. It's hella weird.
Also get better soon bro.
Merry Holidays!
Disagree with cyborg and martian Manhunter but good video n Merry Christmas
What happened to the Spiderman video?
I'd rather pick Doom Patrol Cyborg. CGBorg looks horrendous.
For Poison Ivy I’d choose Bridget Regan, in my opinion her Poison Ivy is the most accurate one and she was very good for only 3 episodes
Best DC Character Adaptations:
Christopher Reeve as Superman (1978)
Michelle Pfieffer as Catwoman (1992)
Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth (2005 - 2012)
Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon (2005 - 2012)
Heath Ledger as Joker (2008)
Tom Hardy as Bane (2012)
Michael Shannon as General Zod (2013)
Grant Gustin as Flash (2015)
Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman (2017)
Robert Pattinson as Batman (2022)
They should just use prosthetic make up for Martian man Hunter. If the CGI is too expensive
HOLLLY SHIT DUDE. YOU NEVER STOP COMPLAINING, WHAT THE HELL.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 No he never does! To me it’s pure comedy at its finest!
@@hendrix7948 I'm glad you enjoy it. It's not for me. I can't stand people who complain like that, I don't need that shit in my life but again I'm glad you enjoy him and everyone is entitled to enjoy what they want. Obviously the dude doesn't know that.
I’m sorry you feel that way. I hope you can find the comedy in it. Don’t let what he does get you down. Just use it against him with laughing cry face emojis His nasally whiny voice is just so funny.
Isn’t Kara from smallville , power girl not super girl ! I can’t remember
No. She's Supergirl. She is referred to as such in the episodes where she does anything public as a hero and she wears the super colors when she does.
I disagree with Peyton List being the best adaptation of Poison Ivy because the showrunners of Gotham explained the recasting of Poison Ivy by wanting to move away from the more comedic version played by Maggie Geha into a scarier, more ruthless character played by Peyton List that wasn't good at all in Season 4. Maggie Geha's version of Poison Ivy was way better and they should've stick with her as the official Ivy in the show. Also, I didn't like that she wasn't named Poison Ivy in the show cause that's who she is when she has powers and doesn't even named herself, Poison Ivy.
If you do another one, I would recommend Cisco ramon/vibe from the flash. His comic appearance is kinda bland, with the cw giving him a great personality and a more interesting set of powers. Awesome suit too!
Honestly putting Harley Quinn on the list should’ve waited until Lady Gaga . But since Gaga’s take would be more of a Gritty take anyways I still would give it to Margot Robbie
holy wowza, Penguin is my fav Batman villain
Birds of prey was pretty good I believe. Yeah they screwed up Cassandra Cain, and made an okay Black Canary, but Harley was Great
Hope you feel better Soon Mate.
While there were other issues, and I do agree, Melissa did a good job, the thing that always stuck out to me with Supergirl is that they shouldn't have made her an adult, the reason she's called Supergirl is because she's a teenager; I remember the one flashback episodes looking at the Danvers Sisters as teenagers, and I just wish that was more the show we got, just with Kara acting as Supergirl at that age.
I think it's just part of how the Arrowverse and mid 00s-mid 2010s superhero shows and films in general were always resistant to admitting that teenage superheroes were a thing, always aging them up to near adulthood if not all the way. We finally got that kind of teenage superheroes with the likes of Stargirl, hopefully we will see that more in the future, James Gunn, please give us actual teenage sidekicks.
Penguin on Gotham brilliant.
You can’t have watched it.
Burgess Meredith is the best penguin
I think DC could do Martian Manhunter similar to how Marvel tried to do hulk. Instead of solo movies he can have his arc be a background element of other movies. Do his origin in the first Justice League and then have him slowly come to enjoy being on Earth. I wouldn't give him a human form until either the end of JL 1 or whatever his second appearance is. I do like him being a freelance detective though and think that's a great setup for him to appear in a batman movie
Yeah you could have him appear in the Superman movies leading up to the JL, and then have him be the connecting tissue for Superman and Green Lantern possibly? Like maybe MM shows up in a GL movie
Beast boy in Episode 9 of titans💀
Part 2
What WB and CW did to DC character in the past years should be considered a crime!
Merry Christmas everyone and happy holidays
@@hendrix7948 i don't get it
Are you going to do weekly rewiew for the flash
The actress who plays Tory Nichols in Cobra Kai was poison ivy????
A different Peyton List the same one who played Lisa Snart on the Flash.
Can’t believe holly hills from diary of a wimpy kid was poison ivy
@@dragonfire4527 ohhhhhhh
Hahahaha
Didn't know lol
@@maxcedeno1387 it's okay. funny story in fact Peyton List who played Tory Nichols in Cobra Kai voiced Barbara Gordon/Batgirl in Batman: Hush movie. Which is hilarious cause Peyton List from Gotham and the Flash also voiced Poison Ivy in that same movie.
@@dragonfire4527 - when it comes to DC shows, the Gotham/Flash Peyton List also played in a couple episodes of *Smallville* as Lois Lane's sister, Lucy.
I didn't mind when Poison Ivy had her first growth spurt in *Gotham* , after an encounter with that one dude from Fish Mooney's gang of freaks, but the second transformation was a bit overkill IMHO...
Still, not sure what the problem with Penguin was, he was one of the most consistent characters in the show. I enjoyed Colin Farrell in *The Batman* (can't wait to watch his own show), but Robin Lord Taylor is still my favorite live action Oswald.
His rise to power over 5 seasons was a blast to witness.
I've not been watching the current season of Titans, but the thing with Bernard bothers me because it's another case of the show failing to show some of Tim's early years properly. Tim's acceptance of himself as bi was a late development and shows the evolution of the character. The worst part for me, though, is last season where he tells Dick that he wants to be the next Robin. Early Tim would never have made the request, and didn't. He was even shocked when Alfred pointed out that Dick brought him to the Batcave because he might be the next Robin. His lack of confidence in spite of being an absolute genius is one of Tim's earliest defining characteristics.
Additionally, on the character of Bernard...
Why do so many DC adaptations make random student age characters into older scientists in live adaptations? I know it's only been two, but it was wrong for both Bernard and for Ronnie Raymond.
Actually, I always thought that since his character was a physicist, they should have made Robbie Amell's character Martin Stein, and make Victor Garber (or another elder actor) Ronnie Raymond. Portray Ronnie as a retired underwear model and small time actor who spends his twilight years as an anti-science hippie. Essentially, keeping the characters the same, but reversing their ages. This would have made for a much more interesting dynamic than the idea of two scientists.
Pls do another and do Pierce Brosnan Doctor Fate perfect casting comic book accurate and Cisco Ramon/ Vibe in the Arrowverse
I honestly like Gotham's version of Harley Quinn cause at least she was rather more darker compared to her other live action portrayals
Ecco was great, but she was a proto-Harley Quinn, not the real deal (like with Jérôme and the Joker), so I understand why he wouldn't include her.
I have 1 problem with shazam ands it's the fact shazam and billy feel like very diffrent characters i wish the acted like the same person
Merry Christmas. I hope everybody have a great holiday.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣 DC WILL NEVER BEAT MARVEL EVEN WITH JAMES GUNN & I LIKE DC
Yeah I agree with all of these this time.
Why do you hate Birds of Prey soo much?
Simple. Because that movie was shit lol
@@WolfEatZombies Well it's very enjoyable for me
@@maqpi8335 you mean a movie with a misleading title and downgrades the Birds of Prey in favor of Harley Quinn?
For me the biggest problem is the complete misuse of the name Cassandra Cain on a character whose only links to the character from the comics other than name is a Gotham address, lack of a Y chromosome and Asian heritage.
However also honestly it's the fact that I knew they were working on a Gotham City Sirens film and scrapped it, when they really shouldn't have. This film is not about the Birds of Prey, it is a Harley Quinn film, Harley is not affiliated with the Birds of Prey in the comics, Gotham City Sirens is a team up of Harley, Catwoman and Poison Ivy.
If instead of the Birds, they had made the film a Gotham City Siren's film, maybe have Holly Robinson instead of Cass then at least some of the hate the film got wouldn't have happened.
@@medafan53 I agree it lets the movie down but it's still not as bad as people make it out to be
Danny Devitos Penguin was perfect, not only because of his size
He's a man-penguin.
6:46 yeah same. I loved Harley before but not she gets used to much in everything that i’ve started to hate her character and how she is written now
Actually Cyborg was portrayed first on Smallville by the guy who play Jett Jackson
Lee Thompson Young RIP
How was Margot Robbie bad in Birds of Prey?
What about red hood?
what about him?
He's ordering it in terms of the character's that are the most recurring, I'm not sure if that's in the comics, in adaptations or overall but he does mention that Tim was more recurring than Jason, who'll probably show up if he does a third video
@@medafan53 I mean maybe but Jason only showed up in Titans
Doom Patrol Cyborg > Snyder’s Justice League Cyborg. In terms of characterization and development, Snyder’s version is way, way better than Whedon’s but still doesn’t compare to the Doom Patrol version. I hate the mess that is the JL costume (would fit in the mess of Transformers bad designs) and so even if covered too often I dramatically prefer everything face down for the DP version so the face plate isn’t enough to overcome the character and remainder of the design.
Bro almost every adatation mentioned in this viedo is terrible aside from shazam and harley
Cyborg was better in character arc and design in doom patrol
Wally West and the guy that portrays Wallace West in this video shouldn’t be on this list, because the guy is portraying a character that isn’t Wally West, so Wally West and the guy that portrays Wallace West shouldn’t be in this video.
But he is. There’s two different Wally’s that exist within the main universe in the comics. With that being said the Red haired one was and is the original
Asher Angels is the WORST choice to play Billy but Zach is a great Shazam but a little too goofy
Asher is not he is a perfect casting for New 52 Billy and Zach is literally the best person to play Shazam
@@Shazampool so you’re saying having Asher being a shit ton MORE brooding and sad, while Zach is all happy and childish and making them feel like two completely different characters is a good thing? You can’t even justify it as Billy being happy that he has powers bc that’s not at all what billy wants in life
@@DZR-O you’re probably mad at how they wrote the characters rather than the actors
@@nobody-kc2si your just NOT understanding anything when it’s very simple to understand, it’s has literally nothing to do with the writing bc that’s not how that shit works it’s the director who says “how about you do it this way?” And the way that they made Asher (billy) feel like he’s in a family drama movie while Zach (Shazam) is in superhero movie
@@DZR-O in the end Billy was happy and he was more brooding in Shazam New 52 if you don’t believe me read it
Best of all-time by far:
Christopher Reeve - Superman
Michael Keaton - Batman
Helen Slater - Supergirl
Gal Gadot - Wonder Woman
Danny DeVito - Penguin
Michelle Pfeiffer - Catwoman
Jack Nicholson - The Joker
Nicole Maines - Dreamer
Terence Stamp - General Zod
Gene Hackman - Lex Luthor
Ezra Miller - The Flash
Jason Mamoa - Aquaman
Michael Gough - Alfred Pennyworth
Honorable mentions:
Brandon Routh - Superman
Ben Affleck- Batman
Lynda Carter - Wonder Woman
Melissa Benoist - Supergirl