To me cameras are not made to be put in the pocket. Yeah the GR is the most pocketable APSC camera and blah blah blah. But let’s be honest. What kind of pocket we are talking about? I always carry jeans or short pants and it’s very uncomfortable to carry my GR there. Even when it’s small I always feel the bump of the camera and it’s not near to carry a smartphone. It’s only comfortable to carry when I use my winter jacket. And as you mentioned in your video, by doing that you are compromising the camera because the build quality of the Ricoh is really really bad to be a more than $1000usd camera. Therefore at the end I always have to use at least a small camera bag to protect it. That’s when the Ricoh just doesn’t make sense to me anymore because I can also carry my A5100 or A7C. Of course only with small lenses.
I had the Ricoh GR for many, many years. The bodies created from 2011-2016 were magical. Then dust problems, lens retraction issues, battery life abysmal. I gave up and won't buy anymore. I found a Panasonic GM-5, put a 14mm 2.5 or 15mm PanaLeica 1.7 and that's my pocketable camera. Micro Four Thirds is alright by me. Touch response on Panasonic bodies are exceptional.... the GX9 is my non-pocketable street camera. If I can find another GM-5 I'll buy. GM-1 is the same but without EVF. I also have given up on Fujifilm. I know all of this sounds harsh - nothing wrong with X-M5 or any Ricoh if it works for YOU, but I've been doing this for over 20 years and just know what I want and need and right now, it's Panasonic. Thank you for your thoughts, Tudor.
I wonder how long until viltrox releases a similar pancake to the Sony 28mm f4.5 autofocus .it's so tiny. Make it wider and it would be a good companion or the 27mm f2.8
Do you think that would cannibalize their camera lineup in some way? Like, creating all those pancake lenses removes incentive to buy the x100 series, which is a top seller for them
My Olympus EPL9 with lumix 14/2.5 fits in my pocket and works for my street ventures in Bangkok. (plus I have plenty of M34 lenses that fit perfectly)...Cheers
I got fed up waiting for a new, small camera so brought a used Samsung nx500. I wanted to buy the new Fujifilm xm-5 but, for photography, don't think it's any better. It has less MP's, no ibis and the screen flips out and not tilts for discreet waist level shooting. The lcd resolution has also been reduced compared to the XE4 for example. It's about the same size as the Samsung but once you put on a fujifilm lens then it certainly is not compact. Fujifilm's 27mm is also slower than Samsung's equivalent 30mm f2 pancake. So, as far as I can see, I would be giving up things, not gaining anything. Am I wrong? I just find it a little disappointing.
The X70 and X-E2s (both X-trans 2 sensor) was released at the same time as the X-Pro 2 with the (X-Trans 3 sensor) so it was already out dated At the time it felt like both the X70 and X-E2s were released to use up sensors. The X100 VI is small enough for me
I purchased an X70 a few weeks ago and took it to Greece. It is now one of my favourite cameras- and I have a few. It took some brilliant photos. Just missing ibis, but not a deal breaker. Videos are fine if you keep the camera steady.
Thanks for the video. I have owned and still own quite a few Fuji cameras, including the XF10, which I bought for a bargain price when they were selling them off new. The image quality always impressed me, but I always hankered after the GR3 as the reviews always seemed to indicate the Fuji was inferior. Eventually I gave in and bought a GR3X HDF. I really tried to like it, but didn’t really see any great improvement over the XF10 regarding AF (I think I had learned to overcome the XF deficiencies) and eventually sent it back. I’m glad I still have the XF. Incidentally, for less than the price of the GR3 you can have a Sony RX100 VII which is a much more versatile pocket camera and gives great results despite the smaller sensor.
So difficult to get a compact camera now, even film ones are hard to get...the good ones that is. I am after a small camera with flash and wont pay 800 for the Ricoh GR ii. The XF10 seems the best bet but they have pushed up the prices as I remember when they were 200 and now 600 but still may get one as what's the alternative.
Even with the AF problem, the XF10 is the king of its class and there is no alternative. The X70 is even more expensive. I know it's Ricoh, of course, but I somehow never got my hands on it. We need a new improved XF10, but unfortunately the market in this category has been completely taken over by the smartphone. And it's no longer worth it for a manufacturer to develop something like that.
Unfortunately I agree. It's my dream to have a pocketable fujifilm camera, with the customizable film simulations, and weather sealing. Might always be a only dream... I only use my phone's camera when I happen to bring my cameras out with me, and I really need to capture a beautiful sunset. But then I check the resulting photo's colors and quality, and all the computing nonesense ruins the scene.... Great video!
For me, a camera is considered handy when it fits in a fanny pack. None of the cameras mentioned here will fit in your pocket during the summer. The X5 camera, if you attach a fast lens to it, won’t be pocketable-maybe with a 28mm pancake lens…
I have all X10, X30 and X70 and yes Fujifilm makes great consumer cameras. Fujifilm will not be making Ricoh GR rival because Ricoh/Penax would enter into X100 territory.
kept reapting the same thing through out the video..the video could have been 4 mins long otherwise..i am never buying a fixed lense camera again.. eventually dust gets into the sensor...and there is no way to clean it...and it hurts me every time i see the the dust spot in my pictures..
and funny this new xm-5 advertised as a pockatable cam by fuji..they give more credit to tiktokers than real photographers nowadays..maybe we should just wait for the gr4..have a feeling its coming soon..
The very first digital cameras I used were not DSLR'S, those came a few years later. The first cameras were point and shoot Canon cameras, they were small, and could fit in my kayak paddling vest pocket. I used it to photograph different birds while on a 14 ft touring kayak. The camera had a small view finder and the shutter lag was a problem, but it had enough controls that I was able to learn the basics of digital photography. Once camera manufacturers started eliminating the viewfinder i bought my first DSLR. To see cameras being made today without any type of viewfinde eliminates it from consideration. I understand it makes it smaller and cheaper to produce, but for me it reminds me of using a smartphone and many times it's just to difficult to see what is on the rear screen in certain types of lighting, the only time I use the rear screen to compose a photographe is when the camera is on a tripod, otherwise i rather use the viewfinder, i don't take many over head shots but then using the screen is the only option.
For a long time I felt the same as you about cameras without viewfinders, but I changed my mind when I owned a GRiiiD and later an XF10 (which I have had from new). I find not having a viewfinder with a fixed wide angle lens is an advantage. Using the rear screen with wide angles just forces you into trying different compositions. A small movement with the camera makes a big compositional difference, and such small movements are just less likely to happen when using a viewfinder. I am with you though 100% when we get to normal or telephoto focal lengths
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To me cameras are not made to be put in the pocket. Yeah the GR is the most pocketable APSC camera and blah blah blah. But let’s be honest. What kind of pocket we are talking about? I always carry jeans or short pants and it’s very uncomfortable to carry my GR there. Even when it’s small I always feel the bump of the camera and it’s not near to carry a smartphone. It’s only comfortable to carry when I use my winter jacket. And as you mentioned in your video, by doing that you are compromising the camera because the build quality of the Ricoh is really really bad to be a more than $1000usd camera. Therefore at the end I always have to use at least a small camera bag to protect it. That’s when the Ricoh just doesn’t make sense to me anymore because I can also carry my A5100 or A7C. Of course only with small lenses.
I agree. If you getting a sling bag or camera bag you're not commiting to being a photographer. We have to carry it around and carry it appropriately.
I had the Ricoh GR for many, many years. The bodies created from 2011-2016 were magical. Then dust problems, lens retraction issues, battery life abysmal. I gave up and won't buy anymore. I found a Panasonic GM-5, put a 14mm 2.5 or 15mm PanaLeica 1.7 and that's my pocketable camera. Micro Four Thirds is alright by me. Touch response on Panasonic bodies are exceptional.... the GX9 is my non-pocketable street camera. If I can find another GM-5 I'll buy. GM-1 is the same but without EVF. I also have given up on Fujifilm. I know all of this sounds harsh - nothing wrong with X-M5 or any Ricoh if it works for YOU, but I've been doing this for over 20 years and just know what I want and need and right now, it's Panasonic. Thank you for your thoughts, Tudor.
Now we need a new Fuji pancake lens please Fuji. 18mm or 24mm
I wonder how long until viltrox releases a similar pancake to the Sony 28mm f4.5 autofocus .it's so tiny. Make it wider and it would be a good companion or the 27mm f2.8
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Do you think that would cannibalize their camera lineup in some way? Like, creating all those pancake lenses removes incentive to buy the x100 series, which is a top seller for them
@@Sleepyboiwonder nothing stopping ttartsian and viltrox from doing it but.
@@couchuminathey are not Fuji
X-E1 with 7artisan f6.3/18 is a nice combination 😎
Please do some more videos on the XM5 and your thoughts
I did here ruclips.net/video/o579Ng7BVC8/видео.htmlsi=t78p4BTBuYfExsDe
My Olympus EPL9 with lumix 14/2.5 fits in my pocket and works for my street ventures in Bangkok. (plus I have plenty of M34 lenses that fit perfectly)...Cheers
I got fed up waiting for a new, small camera so brought a used Samsung nx500. I wanted to buy the new Fujifilm xm-5 but, for photography, don't think it's any better. It has less MP's, no ibis and the screen flips out and not tilts for discreet waist level shooting. The lcd resolution has also been reduced compared to the XE4 for example. It's about the same size as the Samsung but once you put on a fujifilm lens then it certainly is not compact. Fujifilm's 27mm is also slower than Samsung's equivalent 30mm f2 pancake. So, as far as I can see, I would be giving up things, not gaining anything. Am I wrong? I just find it a little disappointing.
The X70 and X-E2s (both X-trans 2 sensor) was released at the same time as the X-Pro 2 with the (X-Trans 3 sensor) so it was already out dated
At the time it felt like both the X70 and X-E2s were released to use up sensors.
The X100 VI is small enough for me
I purchased an X70 a few weeks ago and took it to Greece. It is now one of my favourite cameras- and I have a few. It took some brilliant photos. Just missing ibis, but not a deal breaker. Videos are fine if you keep the camera steady.
I love the XF10 and always felt bad I did not pay double to get the GR3 😂. Thanks for putting this to rest.
Thanks for the video. I have owned and still own quite a few Fuji cameras, including the XF10, which I bought for a bargain price when they were selling them off new. The image quality always impressed me, but I always hankered after the GR3 as the reviews always seemed to indicate the Fuji was inferior. Eventually I gave in and bought a GR3X HDF. I really tried to like it, but didn’t really see any great improvement over the XF10 regarding AF (I think I had learned to overcome the XF deficiencies) and eventually sent it back. I’m glad I still have the XF. Incidentally, for less than the price of the GR3 you can have a Sony RX100 VII which is a much more versatile pocket camera and gives great results despite the smaller sensor.
Totally agree
So difficult to get a compact camera now, even film ones are hard to get...the good ones that is. I am after a small camera with flash and wont pay 800 for the Ricoh GR ii. The XF10 seems the best bet but they have pushed up the prices as I remember when they were 200 and now 600 but still may get one as what's the alternative.
Even with the AF problem, the XF10 is the king of its class and there is no alternative. The X70 is even more expensive. I know it's Ricoh, of course, but I somehow never got my hands on it. We need a new improved XF10, but unfortunately the market in this category has been completely taken over by the smartphone. And it's no longer worth it for a manufacturer to develop something like that.
Unfortunately I agree.
It's my dream to have a pocketable fujifilm camera, with the customizable film simulations, and weather sealing. Might always be a only dream...
I only use my phone's camera when I happen to bring my cameras out with me, and I really need to capture a beautiful sunset. But then I check the resulting photo's colors and quality, and all the computing nonesense ruins the scene....
Great video!
Thank you 🙏
I still use my XF10 almost daily, snap focus mode is a good alternative to slow AF.
Exactly 💯
You can learn to use the AF mode well, but it will definitely not be a sports camera. But that's not what you use for.
For me, a camera is considered handy when it fits in a fanny pack. None of the cameras mentioned here will fit in your pocket during the summer. The X5 camera, if you attach a fast lens to it, won’t be pocketable-maybe with a 28mm pancake lens…
I have all X10, X30 and X70 and yes Fujifilm makes great consumer cameras. Fujifilm will not be making Ricoh GR rival because Ricoh/Penax would enter into X100 territory.
I adore my X70 and will never ever sell it.
Maybe that is why Fujifilm are meant to be releasing a 1 inch sensor camera?
kept reapting the same thing through out the video..the video could have been 4 mins long otherwise..i am never buying a fixed lense camera again.. eventually dust gets into the sensor...and there is no way to clean it...and it hurts me every time i see the the dust spot in my pictures..
and funny this new xm-5 advertised as a pockatable cam by fuji..they give more credit to tiktokers than real photographers nowadays..maybe we should just wait for the gr4..have a feeling its coming soon..
Schau Dir die Ricoh GXR mit A12 Modul 😊 Eine der besten Kamera die ich mal genutzt habe.
10mp enough?
@@kaziqmaziq6703 sounds like a good alternative..thank you sir..
@@caglartunca34 More than this! A2+ no problem! (A12 =12Mpix & no antialiasing blur filter)
The Fuji X100 series is NOT for pockets !
Take a shot everyone he says “pocketable” 😅
Great poiiiiiint!
Aren't Fuji going to release another cam? Which is not apsc and not medium format, most probably not FF.
X30 ii dream might be alive
It will be a 1inch half frame camera 😬
Avec le 27 mm il extrêmement petit comme le X70 pratiquement.
Le Ricoh est cheap.
X-m5 looks like a comapct video camera that can take pics also. Its best features seem to be video
The very first digital cameras I used were not DSLR'S, those came a few years later. The first cameras were point and shoot Canon cameras, they were small, and could fit in my kayak paddling vest pocket. I used it to photograph different birds while on a 14 ft touring kayak. The camera had a small view finder and the shutter lag was a problem, but it had enough controls that I was able to learn the basics of digital photography. Once camera manufacturers started eliminating the viewfinder i bought my first DSLR. To see cameras being made today without any type of viewfinde eliminates it from consideration. I understand it makes it smaller and cheaper to produce, but for me it reminds me of using a smartphone and many times it's just to difficult to see what is on the rear screen in certain types of lighting, the only time I use the rear screen to compose a photographe is when the camera is on a tripod, otherwise i rather use the viewfinder, i don't take many over head shots but then using the screen is the only option.
For a long time I felt the same as you about cameras without viewfinders, but I changed my mind when I owned a GRiiiD and later an XF10 (which I have had from new). I find not having a viewfinder with a fixed wide angle lens is an advantage. Using the rear screen with wide angles just forces you into trying different compositions. A small movement with the camera makes a big compositional difference, and such small movements are just less likely to happen when using a viewfinder. I am with you though 100% when we get to normal or telephoto focal lengths
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