@@themarvelousvlog Every one of us who've worked in the trade, and everyone who just does DIY, has done something simple like this. Always good when no damage is done. Brother left a spanner on the bottom pulley on his Peugeot, tried to start it, nut undid, no keys, so cambelt slipped. Head off and new valves. Oops!
You are so good at your craft. Such a pity I'm all the way in South Africa because I would've definitely entrusted my car with you. Thanks for the great content 🎉
I work in the parts industry and have seen and heard some nasty problems. I do actually have an ecoboost fiesta myself (unfortunately) and have had my oil pump fail (as much as the belt wasnt too bad), which took out the turbo. You need to open up the engine to get to the oil pump so might as well do the belt while you're on. At work we have had a lot of problems with the chain driven Peugeot 1.5 and 1.6 diesels that have taken engines out. We have about 10 vans and at one point 4 were out of action. One big problem now is that because there is so much parts sharing between manufacturers - especially with engines, its hard to find a 'good' engine rhese days. Throw in all the DPF's, EGR's, Adblue etc., cars are just getting too technical making them easier to break and more expensive to fix. I was thinking the other night - the VW Beetle was the peoples car. We need a new 'peoples car' that is reasonably basic with a few mod-cons, reliable, it doesnt have to be too fast, but easy and cheap to fix and at a reasonable price point. Dacia is the closest thing but they are unreliable and oarts supply isn't great.
@akakray: You do know that the "people's car" doesn't make the companies a lot of money, right? If they made a car like that, everybody will keep them so they can't sell you a new one. That's why new cars are terrible, just so you can keep buying new ones. Even toyota is slowly going that direction, they have to, they are a public traded company and the rich people want more money from Toyota...
@@hadiamrane I understand why companies don't do it - it doesn't mean it's impossible though. They'd sell a lot of them lol 😂 and there would be ways of making money from other avenues, accessories, interchangeable body panels etc.
@@akakray True, question is and like I stated above: are the shareholders going to be happy at their next meeting ;-) But it sure is possible, though I think VW said not that long ago that "cheap car below 10k euros are no more, we as a company can't make profit off of it so the next "cheapest" care is going to be 15k or more". Something along those lines at least from what I remember. Best thing is to by a cheap, second hand, asian car and keep it running for long ;-)
Why I like motorcycles, very few have belts and most use a cam chain that’s constantly being bathed in oil which is honestly the best for longevity. One of my bikes even uses a bevel gear driven cam so there’s no chain or belt ha ha.
Chain for me whenever i can, dry belt would be my second choise never a wet belt. never had a chain break on me. Had a couple of dry belts let go hence why i buy chain where ever possible.
There was a chain upgrade for the lynx engine. The stupid thing with that engine was the lower drive was wet belt and the upper drive to camshaft was chain. Also, the timing case wasn't pinned for location. If you didn't use the special tool to align it, the lower seal would leak
One reason I won't trade my 63 focus, ford changed to wet belt driven engine. I've had a timing belt changed at 100k, I'd be getting onto my third wet belt by now!
23 years of driving, only engine that's ever blown on me was a ford 1.8TDCi. Stripped the wet belt at 70mph, you know the rest. Will never buy wet belt again. 90,000 miles engine destroyed. My old Passat 1.9TDi, sold that on 186,000 and it never missed a beat
Yeah it’s basically a Citreon C1/pugeot 107. So it’s just French influence. Like the proace, is a pugeot partner/citreon dispatch. Dunno why Toyota signed off adopting French shit 😂 can see many many recalls coming their way
Dropping the alternator down to do the aux belt is the actual way to do it mate. You can't stretch the alternator belt on or it will nick the edges. The only belt you should put on by rotating the crank pulley is the outer belt.
Have owed two puretech 1.2 (EB2 AND EB2F) unfortunately if you do not use the correct viscosity oil ( for your region it's dependent) but the part that most are unaware of you absolutely have to use the correct specification oil plus appropriate viscosity in order for the timing belt to stay in good condition . PSA group recommendation is total oil ( in my case total quartz ineo first 0w30 for the EB2 engine code ) first vehicle went 100k and timing belt was due by milage and age and it was showing zero deterioration when changed. But if you ask me all this is far to much to expect the average owner and even the delaerhsips when you take your car to be serviced to stick to.( They will put in what ever is the closest oil needed in the car ) Anyways the ecoboost engine looks a nightmare to work on at least the puretech is relatively easy to change a timing belt on when needed as you don't need to basically drop the engine to reach it .
I changed belts on both Ecoboost and Puretech engines. The Puretech belt is a walk in the park compared to the Ecoboost. But don't get me wrong, I hate both engines a lot because of the reliability issues.
Another great video 👍🏻 can I ask you a question? I have a Peugeot boxer long wheelbase and it struggles to go in reverse when the engine is running but it does the same as well sometimes when the engine is not running would this be a clutch problem or a gearbox problem?
Clutch/Gearbox if you struggle to put it in gear if the engine is running. Cable/Gearbox if you struggle to put it in gear whilst engine is off Hope this helps!
I currently own a 2018 Ford Transit Custom, and the only issue I’ve encountered so far was a diesel injector that had to be replaced. I’m now considering Volkswagen Transporter TDI 150 models from 2018 and newer. Are there any common faults or issues with these vans that I should be aware of when buying?
we need a euros/gsf express like the Tesco expresses which are open 24 hours so we don't have to roll over our last bookings of the day due to incorrect parts 🤣
@@themarvelousvlog I also do out of hours roadsides occasionally and it's annoying when a customer has a simple fault you can't fix just because you cant get the parts.
I think you have it wrong with the Lynx engine. They started as chain and changed to belt in ~2008. Partly, this seems to be to get under Euro noise regulations. The conversion kits are not Ford parts. My Lynx has just hit 200k and its second wet belt. The belt that came out was pristine. No problems so far. The later Ecoboost engines, with extended oil change mileages, seem to be the seriously problematic ones. Maybe that could be avoided by reverting to Lynx level oil change intervals?
I admire that you're willing to go out in all weather's to work on cars. A lot of people your age could learn from your work ethics. Nice job, apart from forgetting to reconnect the ht leads.😂. Hopefully all the manufacturers will abandon these ridiculously stupid wet belt systems. I'm very surprised the Toyota and Honda have even considered using wet belts. I personally would never buy a car with one of these engines fitted. I've seen a Ford Ecoboost engine fail with only 40,000 miles on it, and it was regularly serviced too. Absolutely useless.
If you go by the specific recommended engine oil wet belts are ok..if you bought a car with wet belt have it serviced properly and follow oil specs and intervals to the letter.6 mths and/or 10 000 kms should be sufficient.
@themarvelousvlog appreciate the words bro 🙏. Has 40k on clock and full dealer service history and for piece of mind just had it serviced myself. Hearing the horror stories I'm paranoid haha as paid a fortune for it. Wish I lived further south because you guys would be my go too. Keep up the amazing content bro love the videos and you guys
@@callumpainterNE Can't trust dealers either. Get your own parts, proper oil and filters. Then drop it off at a mechanics. Only way really, unless you 100% trust your mechanic.
@themarvelousvlog cheers bro. I think when the wet belt needs doing having that, a service on both the ranger and custom van hopefully make it worth it and I'll cover the fuel 😄
Most garages can do these now. I've lost count how many I've done. Currently have one on the go at work now. Only takes 4 hours to do on the 1.2 peugoet engines.
I aim for vehicles that have timing chains,,,, i hate swapping out timing belts or buying an older vehicle which i have no idea if the belt has been replaced when necassary
Dry belts are better of course, in my opinion..! As for Wet Belts, these have been around since the 1960s. Manufactures used to use them to drive the Oil Pumps and sometimes fuel injection pumps in early fuel injection cars...! 🤔🤔
My wifes 2003 1.6 focus has had 2 timeing belts in 71.000 miles the first when it was 10y old the second when the water pump started leaking 1.6 months later we don't think the first garage put a new one in even doe he charge us for it my 1.6 2015 diesel Astra j has a timeing chain which when I bought it used with 40.000 on the clock I thought I was not ever going to after to replace it but looking on RUclips the engine has a problem with the chain tension which can damage the gides but the chain being at the rear of the engine will cost a fortune to fix the last timeing belt I did my self was on my 1.6 Cortina it was very easy to do when the 1.0 ford wet belt engine first came out it sounded like a good engine but I did think rubber and oil does not mix mabey ford though the engines are lasting to long but it is one way of putting people buying your cars and going somewhere else if you reputation goes down hill
Wet belt is like having chain-like involvement in maintenance without the longevity of the chain. When you follow the manufacturer's maintenance interval then your car is fcked because wet belt sheds their rubber materials and clogs the engine.
And remember, it’s not just 1%. It’s driven by group CO2 for manufacturers, not customers. Failure to meet CO2 targets was going to cost manufacturers millions, and that 1% (not that it’s 1%) over 2 million engines is a lot is saved CO2. Do you understand?
And how about having to keep manufacturing the same engine over and over again, what’s the CO2 impact like on that? Also wanna know what the figures are like when they have to keep disposing oil earlier than normal because of the wetbelt
@ people using the wrong oil is the biggest issue. And remember you’re talking about a 4 cylinder Sigma engine which you just serviced that was ultimately replaced by the 3 cylinder Fox engine and the bigger 3 cylinder Dragon. Significant friction reduction by loosing a cylinder as well, plus FE benefits with direct injection etc. The Sigma and the Fox are not comparable; they’re a generation apart. Technology moves on. Unfortunately, engines will dying over the next 20 years or so.
not when it goes bang ..and the car is scrapped we need to get of the mass manufacturing band wagon for bit ... you dont need to change car every 3-4 years for a new one ..cars will happly do 200,000 plus if maintained ... yes you have odd clutch to replace and water pumps these are normal wear and tear .but lots of people treat them as not worth doing ...
I don’t understand why timing belts are not outlawed and timing chains made the norm. Would remove all this risk of belts snapping! Or go the way truck and plant engines are. No belts or chains and instead have gears meshing between cam and crank shafts. These engines run for millions of Km’s / hours without issues. Obviously cost reasons!
@ well, i replaced some on the ea288 they looked pretty much brand new at 180/200k km. the only one i’ve seen snap and blow the turbocharger was on a 400k km 1.6 tdi golf 6
Ofcourse they realize it’s less reliable. This coupled with the start-stop and turbocharger is to boost new car sales! What is going to be the new car? Get your charger ready.
Wet belts are a joke you get the worst aspect of having a belt combined with the worst aspects of having a chain and neither of the good aspects a dry belt or chain offer. Added bonus of blocked oil pick up and oil starvation.
Doesn’t matter now as they won’t be developing a replacement engine again, any manufacturer that is. Last of the engines will be these farty little 1.0 and 1.2 petrols with VAG running out the 1.5 tsi.
who in their right mind would buy a car with a wet timing belt? If the dry belt can snap on you, soaking in oil can definitely go bad on you really quick. Stupid engineers.. keep it a timing chain!!.
So wet belts... here is what i know.....with engines needing to get smaller to meet emissions regulations they are having to use higher boost pressures to produce the power figures we expect, this causes higher temperatures, higher temperatures means the oil breaks down faster, compounded by modern motoring meaning sitting in traffic for long periods of time so the oil stops doing its job much faster. If you have a wet belt engined car you would be wise to halve the oil service intervals.....and sell it as soon as possible Every few years the industry throws up these sorts of dogs to test us 😅 probably too young to have delt with all all the awful rover K series head gasket issues, used to keep short blocks on the shelf to replace these turd engines same day
Dry belts are OK a cam chain so much better as for wet belts why totally stupid idea as for longevity of cam belts my 1997 Toyota Hilux has its original cam belt after all they were the most over engineered over built engines ever l am referring to the ultra reliable 22R engine also the rest of my Hilux is over engineered and over built has its original carburator which doesn't need rebuilding or replacing more over engineering and over building and this obviously means my Hilux will be easily going in 28 years time and this is why they are appreciating
You are a true trooper working until 10.00pm at night to finish a job, hat is off to you.
Finally finally finally, someone who calls them High Tention Leads and not wires. Thank you.
Dry belt and the 1.6 Duratec. Love it, so easy.
Thanks
Thank you very much for the super like! Well appreciate it- our hard-work is paying off 😁
Dry Belt all day long
@@ianbannister517 all day every day
Fully agree mate and also fully agree with your choice of team. Marching on together 🤜🏻
Excellent 👌 info!!! the conditions you work in bro and how professional you complete the jobs I admire you all. 👍
Thank you! We do try our best!
@@themarvelousvlogyou certainly do mate!
That crank no start had me worried on your behalf, glad it was just a brain fart! Great vid!🎉
It was the biggest brain fart
@@themarvelousvlog Every one of us who've worked in the trade, and everyone who just does DIY, has done something simple like this. Always good when no damage is done. Brother left a spanner on the bottom pulley on his Peugeot, tried to start it, nut undid, no keys, so cambelt slipped. Head off and new valves. Oops!
You are so good at your craft. Such a pity I'm all the way in South Africa because I would've definitely entrusted my car with you. Thanks for the great content 🎉
I’m going there in December to visit family 😁
That's so cool man
You must enjoy yourself ... and prepare for the heat 🥵 😅😂
I work in the parts industry and have seen and heard some nasty problems. I do actually have an ecoboost fiesta myself (unfortunately) and have had my oil pump fail (as much as the belt wasnt too bad), which took out the turbo. You need to open up the engine to get to the oil pump so might as well do the belt while you're on.
At work we have had a lot of problems with the chain driven Peugeot 1.5 and 1.6 diesels that have taken engines out. We have about 10 vans and at one point 4 were out of action.
One big problem now is that because there is so much parts sharing between manufacturers - especially with engines, its hard to find a 'good' engine rhese days. Throw in all the DPF's, EGR's, Adblue etc., cars are just getting too technical making them easier to break and more expensive to fix.
I was thinking the other night - the VW Beetle was the peoples car. We need a new 'peoples car' that is reasonably basic with a few mod-cons, reliable, it doesnt have to be too fast, but easy and cheap to fix and at a reasonable price point. Dacia is the closest thing but they are unreliable and oarts supply isn't great.
this is way im keeping my ford focus 1.8tdci (none wetbelt) on the road as long as possible
@akakray: You do know that the "people's car" doesn't make the companies a lot of money, right? If they made a car like that, everybody will keep them so they can't sell you a new one. That's why new cars are terrible, just so you can keep buying new ones. Even toyota is slowly going that direction, they have to, they are a public traded company and the rich people want more money from Toyota...
A Prius.
@@hadiamrane I understand why companies don't do it - it doesn't mean it's impossible though. They'd sell a lot of them lol 😂 and there would be ways of making money from other avenues, accessories, interchangeable body panels etc.
@@akakray True, question is and like I stated above: are the shareholders going to be happy at their next meeting ;-) But it sure is possible, though I think VW said not that long ago that "cheap car below 10k euros are no more, we as a company can't make profit off of it so the next "cheapest" care is going to be 15k or more". Something along those lines at least from what I remember. Best thing is to by a cheap, second hand, asian car and keep it running for long ;-)
Top vid marv 👍🏽
Why I like motorcycles, very few have belts and most use a cam chain that’s constantly being bathed in oil which is honestly the best for longevity. One of my bikes even uses a bevel gear driven cam so there’s no chain or belt ha ha.
Why I like skateboards. No belts or chains just grease on your bearings and away you go ha ha.
@ why I like skis, no grease or moving parts 😂
Its why i like sitting down really still, no moving parts or oil needed and low maintenance costs. 🤞
Always a pro 👍🏻
Chain for me whenever i can, dry belt would be my second choise never a wet belt. never had a chain break on me. Had a couple of dry belts let go hence why i buy chain where ever possible.
On those tight bolts like that with the spanner, I have a piece of wood that I put against the end of the spanner, and then hit down with a hammer.
Brave man working until that time in the freezing cold.
There was a chain upgrade for the lynx engine.
The stupid thing with that engine was the lower drive was wet belt and the upper drive to camshaft was chain.
Also, the timing case wasn't pinned for location. If you didn't use the special tool to align it, the lower seal would leak
Belt up fella..!!! Hee hee, just kidding. Great content mate.
Again, where's John? Another holiday?
Hope you feel better soon
Thank you mate 🫡
Should you have put some varnish remover in the oil filler hole so that it will loosen it up for the next oil change?
I moved my Fiesta Ecoboost on (Australia) 100,000kms on the clock, did not want the drama or stress with it.
Dry belt thank you
Easy choice really…
I have wet belt, on my ford tourneo, if you do the oil change at 8k miles it will get you good mileage
true.. but ppl don't use/maintain products as should !! Soooo manufacturers should build something that could last abuse.
Have you done a tfsi engine timing belt replacement before
Love the video would you consider changing Freelander engine
Oh hell no 😂😆
What’s ur opinion on the 1.6 PSA engines
One reason I won't trade my 63 focus, ford changed to wet belt driven engine.
I've had a timing belt changed at 100k, I'd be getting onto my third wet belt by now!
Great job.
Where abouts are you based in case I need to get you up look at my car.
Big up from Scotland 👍
Wet belts cvt gearboxes why? And putting loads of plastic under the bonnet and in the engine that gets hot and cold and then gets brittle and fails?
I had a transit connect 09 plate. I used local garage to change cam belt regularly. Had no idear it had wet belt as well. It went. Good bye engine 😢😢
23 years of driving, only engine that's ever blown on me was a ford 1.8TDCi. Stripped the wet belt at 70mph, you know the rest. Will never buy wet belt again. 90,000 miles engine destroyed. My old Passat 1.9TDi, sold that on 186,000 and it never missed a beat
At least you learnt it earlier than everyone else 😂
I’m a ex Toyota tech. What Toyota model uses wet belt? Must’ve started using it after I left. Loving the videos bro
From what I’ve been told, it’s in Toyota Aygo
@@themarvelousvlogisn’t that a rebadged PSA vehicle.
Yeah it’s basically a Citreon C1/pugeot 107. So it’s just French influence. Like the proace, is a pugeot partner/citreon dispatch. Dunno why Toyota signed off adopting French shit 😂 can see many many recalls coming their way
1.0 vtti Toyota Aygo uses timing chain.
Wrong it uses the little 1.0 Daihatsu engine and it's chain driven
Dropping the alternator down to do the aux belt is the actual way to do it mate.
You can't stretch the alternator belt on or it will nick the edges.
The only belt you should put on by rotating the crank pulley is the outer belt.
Have owed two puretech 1.2 (EB2 AND EB2F) unfortunately if you do not use the correct viscosity oil ( for your region it's dependent) but the part that most are unaware of you absolutely have to use the correct specification oil plus appropriate viscosity in order for the timing belt to stay in good condition . PSA group recommendation is total oil ( in my case total quartz ineo first 0w30 for the EB2 engine code ) first vehicle went 100k and timing belt was due by milage and age and it was showing zero deterioration when changed.
But if you ask me all this is far to much to expect the average owner and even the delaerhsips when you take your car to be serviced to stick to.( They will put in what ever is the closest oil needed in the car )
Anyways the ecoboost engine looks a nightmare to work on at least the puretech is relatively easy to change a timing belt on when needed as you don't need to basically drop the engine to reach it
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PureTech over EcoBoost any day of the week!
I changed belts on both Ecoboost and Puretech engines. The Puretech belt is a walk in the park compared to the Ecoboost. But don't get me wrong, I hate both engines a lot because of the reliability issues.
@ I totally agree mate
1.2 pure tech 103 thousand miles belt still OK.
I believe they have changed the recommend oil spec again recently for the 1.2 puretechs. I thinks it's now 5w30 with another specified code.
Another great video 👍🏻 can I ask you a question? I have a Peugeot boxer long wheelbase and it struggles to go in reverse when the engine is running but it does the same as well sometimes when the engine is not running would this be a clutch problem or a gearbox problem?
Sounds very much like a gearbox problem selector or syncromesh on reverse i recon been in the game 40 yrs and that would be my guess.
@ thanks would this be an expensive repair?
Clutch/Gearbox if you struggle to put it in gear if the engine is running.
Cable/Gearbox if you struggle to put it in gear whilst engine is off
Hope this helps!
@@themarvelousvlog thank you
Glad I have a 1.4 tdci engine
Top job as always some good learnings Nice one guys 😀😀😀😀😀☮️☮️☮️
Glad you enjoyed it
I currently own a 2018 Ford Transit Custom, and the only issue I’ve encountered so far was a diesel injector that had to be replaced. I’m now considering Volkswagen Transporter TDI 150 models from 2018 and newer. Are there any common faults or issues with these vans that I should be aware of when buying?
Well if you’re trying to avoid injector issues, definitely don’t go for a 2.0TDI 🥲, apart from that, nothing much really
Some have a wet belt for the oil pump.... 🤣🤣
we need a euros/gsf express like the Tesco expresses which are open 24 hours so we don't have to roll over our last bookings of the day due to incorrect parts 🤣
Mate it’s frustrating as anything!
@@themarvelousvlog I also do out of hours roadsides occasionally and it's annoying when a customer has a simple fault you can't fix just because you cant get the parts.
Dry belt is the best what is the point in an extra 1% fuel economy for engine failure
1% is the difference between a chain and a wet belt on fuel economy the difference between a dry and wet belt is even smaller.
Does anyone know what new diesel vans does not have the wet belt?
Renault Master/Traffic, Benz Sprinter, PSA Jumper/Boxer/Relay/Movano (2021+) and many more
Really need to ask
I think you have it wrong with the Lynx engine. They started as chain and changed to belt in ~2008. Partly, this seems to be to get under Euro noise regulations. The conversion kits are not Ford parts. My Lynx has just hit 200k and its second wet belt. The belt that came out was pristine. No problems so far. The later Ecoboost engines, with extended oil change mileages, seem to be the seriously problematic ones. Maybe that could be avoided by reverting to Lynx level oil change intervals?
Timing chain 😊
What happened to the bmw ? I’m sure I’ve not seen it finished 🤷♂️
It’s coming 🥲
I admire that you're willing to go out in all weather's to work on cars. A lot of people your age could learn from your work ethics. Nice job, apart from forgetting to reconnect the ht leads.😂. Hopefully all the manufacturers will abandon these ridiculously stupid wet belt systems. I'm very surprised the Toyota and Honda have even considered using wet belts. I personally would never buy a car with one of these engines fitted. I've seen a Ford Ecoboost engine fail with only 40,000 miles on it, and it was regularly serviced too. Absolutely useless.
Nether ... timing chain for the win ...
If you go by the specific recommended engine oil wet belts are ok..if you bought a car with wet belt have it serviced properly and follow oil specs and intervals to the letter.6 mths and/or 10 000 kms should be sufficient.
Can't wait to get rid of my mk8 transit that's got 73k on it and a shitebelt
I've just bought a ranger 2.0 ecoboost with the wet belt, should I be worried haha
Just look after it mate. 5k oil change I’d say and replace the wet belt at around 80k
@themarvelousvlog appreciate the words bro 🙏. Has 40k on clock and full dealer service history and for piece of mind just had it serviced myself. Hearing the horror stories I'm paranoid haha as paid a fortune for it. Wish I lived further south because you guys would be my go too. Keep up the amazing content bro love the videos and you guys
@ thanks mate! If you want your wetbelt replacing, let e know. You never know, I might be able to travel up there 😁
@@callumpainterNE Can't trust dealers either. Get your own parts, proper oil and filters. Then drop it off at a mechanics. Only way really, unless you 100% trust your mechanic.
@themarvelousvlog cheers bro. I think when the wet belt needs doing having that, a service on both the ranger and custom van hopefully make it worth it and I'll cover the fuel 😄
Wish you live near Leeds todo my wife’s Peugeot 1.2 wet belt
Most garages can do these now. I've lost count how many I've done. Currently have one on the go at work now. Only takes 4 hours to do on the 1.2 peugoet engines.
Isn't there now a chain conversion for the purtech I'm sure there is
@@stephenreed1080 what does it cost to do it these days
I aim for vehicles that have timing chains,,,, i hate swapping out timing belts or buying an older vehicle which i have no idea if the belt has been replaced when necassary
Same same 🙆♂️
Until that timing chain needs replacing... most don't last over 120k now. Dry belt all the way.
Most nissan/renault chains are knackered by 100k
Dry belts are better of course, in my opinion..! As for Wet Belts, these have been around since the 1960s. Manufactures used to use them to drive the Oil Pumps and sometimes fuel injection pumps in early fuel injection cars...! 🤔🤔
I never understood why anyone thought a wet belt would be a good idea. Build a dry belt engine or an engine with a timing chain. Wet belts suck!
Its for emissions purposes.
@@stephenreed1080 Yeah very green when the engines explode and need replacing or write off the car.
No Belt! Timing gears all the way on the cummins crap i work on 🤣
I think I'll stick to my old Datsun somehow.
Dry belt yea please
My wifes 2003 1.6 focus has had 2 timeing belts in 71.000 miles the first when it was 10y old the second when the water pump started leaking 1.6 months later we don't think the first garage put a new one in even doe he charge us for it my 1.6 2015 diesel Astra j has a timeing chain which when I bought it used with 40.000 on the clock I thought I was not ever going to after to replace it but looking on RUclips the engine has a problem with the chain tension which can damage the gides but the chain being at the rear of the engine will cost a fortune to fix the last timeing belt I did my self was on my 1.6 Cortina it was very easy to do when the 1.0 ford wet belt engine first came out it sounded like a good engine but I did think rubber and oil does not mix mabey ford though the engines are lasting to long but it is one way of putting people buying your cars and going somewhere else if you reputation goes down hill
ONLY dry belt.👌
I now have a wet belt van 😮 but i will service it way before the manufacturers schedule just to be safe
great work 👌
Dry belt always...
That cambelt runs from aux belt on this engine
Wetbelts are not the problem it's people not understanding the level of maintenance needed for the vehicle
Wetbelts are the problem. The proof is everywhere you look. Poorly designed shit engines that last a short amount of time.
I’ve told you why the wet belts were designed mate
I'd never buy a van with a wet belt especially after seeing multiple videos about them
Wet belt is like having chain-like involvement in maintenance without the longevity of the chain.
When you follow the manufacturer's maintenance interval then your car is fcked because wet belt sheds their rubber materials and clogs the engine.
And remember, it’s not just 1%. It’s driven by group CO2 for manufacturers, not customers. Failure to meet CO2 targets was going to cost manufacturers millions, and that 1% (not that it’s 1%) over 2 million engines is a lot is saved CO2. Do you understand?
nope
And how about having to keep manufacturing the same engine over and over again, what’s the CO2 impact like on that? Also wanna know what the figures are like when they have to keep disposing oil earlier than normal because of the wetbelt
@ people using the wrong oil is the biggest issue. And remember you’re talking about a 4 cylinder Sigma engine which you just serviced that was ultimately replaced by the 3 cylinder Fox engine and the bigger 3 cylinder Dragon. Significant friction reduction by loosing a cylinder as well, plus FE benefits with direct injection etc. The Sigma and the Fox are not comparable; they’re a generation apart.
Technology moves on. Unfortunately, engines will dying over the next 20 years or so.
not when it goes bang ..and the car is scrapped we need to get of the mass manufacturing band wagon for bit ... you dont need to change car every 3-4 years for a new one ..cars will happly do 200,000 plus if maintained ... yes you have odd clutch to replace and water pumps these are normal wear and tear .but lots of people treat them as not worth doing ...
Ford should just plant some tree's
To compensate right? 😂😂😂
Dry belt all day long i am self taught mechanic 25 year's
Just glad my car has a wet timing.................. chain
I don’t understand why timing belts are not outlawed and timing chains made the norm. Would remove all this risk of belts snapping!
Or go the way truck and plant engines are. No belts or chains and instead have gears meshing between cam and crank shafts. These engines run for millions of Km’s / hours without issues.
Obviously cost reasons!
Every tool blames their worker😂
Because every owner is a tool 😂
@@themarvelousvlog😮😂👍 Whats your experience with VW 1.5 tsi evo engines mate?
@IwasBraveFor2WholeSeconds I will not work on them 😂😆
@@themarvelousvlogI don't blame you, you need specialist electronic tools. I heard its impossible to change a belt without them.
70k milles and all those issues on a ford? On a BMW diesel, no such repairs are needed until 100k
bluetooth HT leads 🤣
i don’t get why blaming volkswagen for wet belts, they only use them for the oil pumps and they don’t wear at all, it’s not any of those psa shit
Oh yes they do. Good practice is to get them replaced every 80k. They drive the oil; if it snaps, it’s game over 🤷🏽♂️
@ well, i replaced some on the ea288 they looked pretty much brand new at 180/200k km. the only one i’ve seen snap and blow the turbocharger was on a 400k km 1.6 tdi golf 6
Stop complaining this sort of stuff keeps mechanics / technicians in work.
Whoever designed the wet belt needs a wet belt around the kipper.
Chain
Ofcourse they realize it’s less reliable. This coupled with the start-stop and turbocharger is to boost new car sales!
What is going to be the new car? Get your charger ready.
Wet belts are a joke you get the worst aspect of having a belt combined with the worst aspects of having a chain and neither of the good aspects a dry belt or chain offer. Added bonus of blocked oil pick up and oil starvation.
PLUSGAS is FAR superior to your penetrant.
I agree
so why sell a poor quality product ????
Push rods.
Dry belt all day long
Did 1.0 ecoboost took 10hrs . Overlying complicated
I mean a good video don't get me wrong but anyone who know's a little science will know rubber and oil dont mix
Doesn’t matter now as they won’t be developing a replacement engine again, any manufacturer that is. Last of the engines will be these farty little 1.0 and 1.2 petrols with VAG running out the 1.5 tsi.
Wet Belts are more efficient, still a BS idea though.
who in their right mind would buy a car with a wet timing belt? If the dry belt can snap on you, soaking in oil can definitely go bad on you really quick. Stupid engineers.. keep it a timing chain!!.
Brave doing that job at night.
It was cold too! 🥶
wanted them to fail across all manufacturers! EV is the future!
EV is already a failing experiment….the future will probably be hydrogen.
So wet belts... here is what i know.....with engines needing to get smaller to meet emissions regulations they are having to use higher boost pressures to produce the power figures we expect, this causes higher temperatures, higher temperatures means the oil breaks down faster, compounded by modern motoring meaning sitting in traffic for long periods of time so the oil stops doing its job much faster. If you have a wet belt engined car you would be wise to halve the oil service intervals.....and sell it as soon as possible
Every few years the industry throws up these sorts of dogs to test us 😅 probably too young to have delt with all all the awful rover K series head gasket issues, used to keep short blocks on the shelf to replace these turd engines same day
Wet belts are a disaster waiting to happen. Even the famous Ford trucks use a wet belt oil pump.
Dry belts are OK a cam chain so much better as for wet belts why totally stupid idea as for longevity of cam belts my 1997 Toyota Hilux has its original cam belt after all they were the most over engineered over built engines ever l am referring to the ultra reliable 22R engine also the rest of my Hilux is over engineered and over built has its original carburator which doesn't need rebuilding or replacing more over engineering and over building and this obviously means my Hilux will be easily going in 28 years time and this is why they are appreciating
Rubber and water, hmm... !
Eco 😂
Easy answer. No belt.
just get an EV and save yourself thousand upon thousands of $ on maintenance and fuel.
Buy a Toyota with a chain motor,leave the other rubbish brands to rot in the dealers showroom lol
You chatting rubbish politely dry belt is fine you need to service the dry belt innit
Il never buy a car with a wet belt .
Wet belt=wet pants