Thanks, I knew when I ran the Vorteks for the first time in my maiden video that it would beat the Rustler hands down, just had to get it on video, I’ve had a lot of issues with the Rustler just to keep it up and running, I’ve probably gone through 4 or 5 spur gears and switched out a couple of driveshafts, it is what it is, looks like Arrma wins this round lol thanks for watching 👍
Great video! I had stripped gears until I noticed my mount plate had bent slightly which was changing the pinion angle. Replaced the motor mount with hr aluminum mount and new motor mount plate and haven't stripped since
I’ve had the typhon 3S, SENTON 3S and the vorteks 3S and they are literally the same except body mounts and the suspension arms are different lengths. They are all awesome
Yeah I think in this case because I was using those bigger tires, it may have caused some issues, I’ve since put the stock tires back on and I have had a lot less trouble stripping gears, good advice though appreciate it and thanks for watching 🤙
I honestly have had 6 different arrmas and that’s the only brand I stick with except axial for my crawler. I’ve had the kraton 8S, felony 6S, SENTON 3S, typhon 3S, outcast 4S, and finally vorteks 3S and they are all awesome. I’ve had way over 5-0 different traxxas cars and none of them held up very well. Farewell traxxas, you WONT be missed.
I'm the opposite, I have a few from a bunch of brands, and my kraton/mojave 6s are the only ones that always break something, my maxx/xmaxx have been tanks
I admit that I may not be used to hearing an Arrma vehicle run, but something sounds like it's dragging or might be too tight in the driveline of the Vorteks. Didn't note this issue on the Rustler.
Really? Hmmm, the Rustler with the stock tires don’t give it that wheelie action that I like but with the 2.8s it wheelies on command and does better backflips IMO, thanks for watching 👍
@@pinczesrobert264 well I think it’s also because the tires are bigger there’s more force, I call it torque, going through the drive shafts, to get those wheels moving, I’m not a physics major, just a guy running Rc’s on RUclips lol but that’s how I see it
Bigger tires can vary speed. But it does help torque. Granite tires are perfect example. Bigger width and height, a wheelie machine on any rc, because the change in ratio. Which changes your car attributes.
@@idjc2621 yeah that’s what I thought too, it definitely has more get up and go with bigger tires, before it very rarely wheelies, now I gotta keep it on a leash! It’s a decent truck but honestly, the original 2wd rustler vxl is way better IMO
I've had such a poor experience with Arrma customer service I had to get the Rustler. I've been waiting for a replacement part through warranty for almost a year from Arrma. Horizon is no better.
Allso arrma is like a vulture at least here in europe in the box all parts are the lowest possible and everything fairly better is extra... thes never give you any beefed up parts in the "budget or starter line cars 2-3s ones" at least even traxxas gives you new parts even in the starter bl2-s line....
I like your vid Broski. But I think tires are a game changer. They can make the car perform better than stock. When u say stock comparison its not really. Different tires made my Senton handle better. No Offense. I still watched👍🏾
Yeah, when I say stock I’m mainly referring to the gearing, I also did a stock speed run with the bandit vxl but I had the anaconda tires on it because stock tires wouldn’t last five minutes on the street before they went bald, I did mention in the rustler video that it does improve handling but honestly I don’t think it even mattered, lol the Vorteks destroyed the rustler, I kinda of knew that out of the gate but now we have the video to confirm it, I appreciate you watching and don’t worry about offending me, I like a good discussion and I want everyone to feel free to speak their mind no matter if we agree or disagree thanks for watching o and by the way I have another video coming up with the Senton hope to see you there👍
@@rcreviews9894 definitely bro , I got the Granite late last year , it's my go to truck for bashing tough cookie 💯 an wicked fun ! - take care dude check out the channel 🚀💯🤠👌
@@rcreviews9894 Hey Bryan, Im okay, yeah still flying my blade 120 S2 for now, was unable to get the 330S, hoping to get back to work within the next couple of weeks or so, then I should be able to get me the heli's I've been eyeing. By the way I was just watching the AT&T BYRON NELSON CLASSIC being held out in Texas, the blade fusion 360 is a really nice heli, I like the RED,WHITE AND BLUE scheme on the canopy, right on ! Can't wait for your unboxing and maiden flight videos. Have a good one B ! Laters ! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🤙🏻👍🏻
@@melvinw.quinene841 yeah it may take me a week or so, the 360 costs as much as the 330s rtf and it’s a bnf basic! But I’m excited to get it! Haven’t been able to fly lately, it’s been raining and when it’s not raining, it’s windy as hell Lol but I have a few flight videos lined up 👍
The same thing happened to me with the spur gear on my Rustler 4x4 VXL, after just a few runs. I hope it will resist in the future. Maybe with the metal version, it could last longer?
Why the american obsession with speed and how far you can jump and smash it into the ground ! No one really looks at handling and cornering. I want to know how it drifts, corners, holds, understeers etc. Who just drives their rc trucks in endless straight lines ? Bored of these speed tests.
If you are interested in overall performance of each vehicle I have a video for that, check out “ Arrma 3s collection, how does each one perform?” When I do my versus videos I focus on a few things, overall speed out of the box, how well it handles on the ramp and durability, your right most people don’t drive their Rc’s down the street in a straight line but they do if they want to know how fast it is, if you know of a better way to speed test an Rc, by all means, I’m all ears, I also ramp jump my Rc’s, not to try to break them or nose dive them into the dirt but because it’s fun! A lot of people who bash do this, some people are much more extreme with ramp jumping, I am not, this in my opinion is also a good way to test overall durability, in some of my videos you will hear me talk about traction rolling and leaning into turns, this is also a factor that may sway my opinion one way or another towards a particular Rc, I do appreciate you taking the time to stop by 👍
They are not really hard to compare, they are two totally different beasts, it all depends on what you plan to do, or how you plan to run em, if you were asking me personally, I would choose the Typhon
That's exactly why I don't buy Traxxas, it just doesn't hold up to Arrma build wise. Or speed wise for that matter, Traxxas should be at the top of theeir're game but Arrma has kinda shoved them to the side. If I could get a truck that could run as fast and hold up like Arrma, I'd buy a Traxxas in a moment. Our Son and Son in Law both have them and are always repairing them and to be honest so am I but I have a nasty habit of running into curbs and walls, LOL. Arrma is just better-to me anyway.
Yeah Traxxas has some Rc’s that are better than others but I have to agree with you Arrma has really stepped up their game, quality is at a all time high as well as pricing, 320 for pretty much any Rc in Arrmas 3s line except for the Vorteks, they are all super durable and pretty fast out of the box, the Rustler IMO is kinda of a let down, I like the 2wd Rustler much better, thanks for watching 👍
@@dannyss6679 depends if you you the high gearing for on road or smooth off road surfaces for speed runs you should be! I wouldn’t go bashing or do a lot of stopping and going
Rustler doesn't like you I haven't had any problems with mine I put the speed bringing in everything's all good I'm getting 66 mph on Pro-Line street tires haven't had a problem with drive shafts or spur gears
Probably this dude is a moron and the mesh definitely not set correctly and /or the screws weren't tightened correctly... i bough mine used so it was abused before i put the better servo in it serviced the shocks and the differential and still goes it's almost two years now just with me...
You mean the black one right? If so I got it years ago, maybe 5 years ago, on a website called Discountramps . com not sure if they still sell them I was browsing a while back to buy another one because if you have two you can connect them and jump it from both sides but I couldn’t find it you may have better luck
Which gearings do you use in each one what the battery discharge rate in them? If they are not close it's not really a comparison... also those aren't street tyres on the rustler... not even the talon ext-s or the anacondas for teh road how can you claim comparison if the setups skewed in advance for the arrma??? How unfair you want this comparison? RC Reviews yes
I’m using stock gearing in both trucks, I don’t remember what it is but it’s stock, a Traxxas battery 3s 5000 25c in the rustler and a spectrum smart battery, 3s 5000 50c in the Vorteks
@@rcreviews9894 So twice the power in one and the other has half and one has not the correct tyre on :,D seems fair... also check the claims which one needs go how fast on the setup... at 11/54 gearing traxxas is set to 40mph which exceeded even with the incorect tyres right or wrong ? or if you check it with box parts check the gears hich they given in the price and check wich will be faster if you want to actually make a fair comparison. and if you mess with the pinion and/or the spur or check the engine use blue loctite to secure it the stripping is 99.999% user error.... mnie was sued when i bought it followed the maunal to the T 2 years past every part is still as from factory exept the servo that was shit i put the red one in it with the metal gears oh and the body quite trashed.
@@maszkalman3676 I think you are reading into it too much, at the end of the day this is simply a comparison between two stock setups and that’s it, purely entertainment purposes, the stock rustler and it’s equivalent a stock Vorteks, both 4WD, both stadium trucks, both 3s capable, nothing more, I just wanted to see which one was a better setup, gearing, tires and batteries are all extras that I didn’t want to tamper with, just a stock setup between the two, nothing more, just for fun.
Looks like the vortex is better all around. Crazy all the trouble your having with that rustler, too bad. I would not be impressed changing that stuff out so often.
Yeah, I knew the Vorteks would destroy the rustler, just had to get it on video, I’m kinda of disappointed that we didn’t get to at least jump it more before we stripped out the spur, I’ve had a lot of trouble with it, and I’m not the only one, one of my neighbors has the same Rustler just the blue one and he’s actually stopped by twice to see if I had a extra spur gears, Lol I usually buy multiples, because I know I’m gonna need them, drive shafts have been breaking on me too! That’s mainly due to the larger tires though, cause it didn’t start doing that until I installed them, the Rustler is also pretty slow out of the box compared to my 2wd, Rustler, thanks for watching brother👍
i own a rustler 4x4 also and I have nothing but problems with it. i like the truggy but just problems with it !!! I think I will get the Armma Vorteks and sell the rustler 4x4 !!!!!
Yeah the rustler is really not my favorite, I actually like the rustler vxl better, it’s fast, wheelies on command, no issues and easy to work on! The vortex definitely takes it in this video! Thanks for watching brother!🤙
@@rcreviews9894 Yeah me too I love the Rustler VXL no probs with mine but I am definitely going to get the Armma Vortex and get rid of my Rustler 4x4 😁😁😁
Nice comparison my friend. So looks like Arrma is king of the 3s trucks! :-)
Thanks, I knew when I ran the Vorteks for the first time in my maiden video that it would beat the Rustler hands down, just had to get it on video, I’ve had a lot of issues with the Rustler just to keep it up and running, I’ve probably gone through 4 or 5 spur gears and switched out a couple of driveshafts, it is what it is, looks like Arrma wins this round lol thanks for watching 👍
Great video! I had stripped gears until I noticed my mount plate had bent slightly which was changing the pinion angle. Replaced the motor mount with hr aluminum mount and new motor mount plate and haven't stripped since
Nice! I may have to give that a try myself! Good advice! Thanks for watching!🤙
I’ve had the typhon 3S, SENTON 3S and the vorteks 3S and they are literally the same except body mounts and the suspension arms are different lengths. They are all awesome
Try loosening the slipper on the Traxxas by 1/16 of a turn and see if that helps with both stripped spur gears and broken axles.
Yeah I think in this case because I was using those bigger tires, it may have caused some issues, I’ve since put the stock tires back on and I have had a lot less trouble stripping gears, good advice though appreciate it and thanks for watching 🤙
I honestly have had 6 different arrmas and that’s the only brand I stick with except axial for my crawler. I’ve had the kraton 8S, felony 6S, SENTON 3S, typhon 3S, outcast 4S, and finally vorteks 3S and they are all awesome. I’ve had way over 5-0 different traxxas cars and none of them held up very well. Farewell traxxas, you WONT be missed.
I'm the opposite, I have a few from a bunch of brands, and my kraton/mojave 6s are the only ones that always break something, my maxx/xmaxx have been tanks
I admit that I may not be used to hearing an Arrma vehicle run, but something sounds like it's dragging or might be too tight in the driveline of the Vorteks. Didn't note this issue on the Rustler.
Awesome video good runs very nice comparisons great job thumbs up 👍
Appreciate it bro 👍
Actually bigger tires has less torque.
Really? Hmmm, the Rustler with the stock tires don’t give it that wheelie action that I like but with the 2.8s it wheelies on command and does better backflips IMO, thanks for watching 👍
Exactly with bigger tires you should have more top end speed but less acceleration. It might pull wheelies now because you have more grip I guess.
@@pinczesrobert264 well I think it’s also because the tires are bigger there’s more force, I call it torque, going through the drive shafts, to get those wheels moving, I’m not a physics major, just a guy running Rc’s on RUclips lol but that’s how I see it
Bigger tires can vary speed. But it does help torque. Granite tires are perfect example. Bigger width and height, a wheelie machine on any rc, because the change in ratio. Which changes your car attributes.
@@idjc2621 yeah that’s what I thought too, it definitely has more get up and go with bigger tires, before it very rarely wheelies, now I gotta keep it on a leash! It’s a decent truck but honestly, the original 2wd rustler vxl is way better IMO
I have the green arrma vorteks 3S and I absolutely love arrma. Maybe get a steel spur gear or make sure your gear mesh isn’t too loose
I've had such a poor experience with Arrma customer service I had to get the Rustler. I've been waiting for a replacement part through warranty for almost a year from Arrma. Horizon is no better.
Man that’s too bad, hopefully you can get it up and running soon, everything’s hard to get now days, bs supply chain issues
Allso arrma is like a vulture at least here in europe in the box all parts are the lowest possible and everything fairly better is extra... thes never give you any beefed up parts in the "budget or starter line cars 2-3s ones" at least even traxxas gives you new parts even in the starter bl2-s line....
@maszkalman3676 yeah I agree 🤙
I like your vid Broski. But I think tires are a game changer. They can make the car perform better than stock. When u say stock comparison its not really. Different tires made my Senton handle better. No Offense. I still watched👍🏾
Yeah, when I say stock I’m mainly referring to the gearing, I also did a stock speed run with the bandit vxl but I had the anaconda tires on it because stock tires wouldn’t last five minutes on the street before they went bald, I did mention in the rustler video that it does improve handling but honestly I don’t think it even mattered, lol the Vorteks destroyed the rustler, I kinda of knew that out of the gate but now we have the video to confirm it, I appreciate you watching and don’t worry about offending me, I like a good discussion and I want everyone to feel free to speak their mind no matter if we agree or disagree thanks for watching o and by the way I have another video coming up with the Senton hope to see you there👍
Some wicked comparison vids bro
Appreciate it, Arrma is killin it in the Rc game right now!👍
@@rcreviews9894 definitely bro , I got the Granite late last year , it's my go to truck for bashing tough cookie 💯 an wicked fun ! - take care dude check out the channel 🚀💯🤠👌
@@bikesrc4642 o yeah the granite is a good one and Arrma tough too!
Love your videos 🔥
Thanks bro 👍
Awesome run B ! Very cool !
Hey Mel, thanks, how have you been? You been flying anything lately?
I’m working on getting that Blade 360 fusion👍
@@rcreviews9894 Hey Bryan, Im okay, yeah still flying my blade 120 S2 for now, was unable to get the 330S, hoping to get back to work within the next couple of weeks or so, then I should be able to get me the heli's I've been eyeing. By the way I was just watching the AT&T BYRON NELSON CLASSIC being held out in Texas, the blade fusion 360 is a really nice heli, I like the RED,WHITE AND BLUE scheme on the canopy, right on ! Can't wait for your unboxing and maiden flight videos. Have a good one B ! Laters ! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🤙🏻👍🏻
@@melvinw.quinene841 yeah it may take me a week or so, the 360 costs as much as the 330s rtf and it’s a bnf basic! But I’m excited to get it! Haven’t been able to fly lately, it’s been raining and when it’s not raining, it’s windy as hell Lol but I have a few flight videos lined up 👍
@@rcreviews9894 Sounds good ! Looking forward for your upcoming videos.
Vorteks all the way!
Yep, the Vorteks destroys the Rustler and I’m a Traxxas guy lol 🤙
The same thing happened to me with the spur gear on my Rustler 4x4 VXL, after just a few runs. I hope it will resist in the future. Maybe with the metal version, it could last longer?
Why the american obsession with speed and how far you can jump and smash it into the ground ! No one really looks at handling and cornering. I want to know how it drifts, corners, holds, understeers etc. Who just drives their rc trucks in endless straight lines ? Bored of these speed tests.
If you are interested in overall performance of each vehicle I have a video for that, check out “ Arrma 3s collection, how does each one perform?” When I do my versus videos I focus on a few things, overall speed out of the box, how well it handles on the ramp and durability, your right most people don’t drive their Rc’s down the street in a straight line but they do if they want to know how fast it is, if you know of a better way to speed test an Rc, by all means, I’m all ears, I also ramp jump my Rc’s, not to try to break them or nose dive them into the dirt but because it’s fun! A lot of people who bash do this, some people are much more extreme with ramp jumping, I am not, this in my opinion is also a good way to test overall durability, in some of my videos you will hear me talk about traction rolling and leaning into turns, this is also a factor that may sway my opinion one way or another towards a particular Rc, I do appreciate you taking the time to stop by 👍
Do you have the slipper clutch set too tight on the Rustler? Is the mesh between the pinion and spur correct?
Yeah it is, not sure what’s causing it
Bigger tires do not give you more torque. Bigger tires require more torque to turn. Should drop a smaller spur gear.
Would you recommend the Vorteks 3s over the Typhon 3s or are they hard to compare?
They are not really hard to compare, they are two totally different beasts, it all depends on what you plan to do, or how you plan to run em, if you were asking me personally, I would choose the Typhon
That's exactly why I don't buy Traxxas, it just doesn't hold up to Arrma build wise. Or speed wise for that matter, Traxxas should be at the top of theeir're game but Arrma has kinda shoved them to the side. If I could get a truck that could run as fast and hold up like Arrma, I'd buy a Traxxas in a moment. Our Son and Son in Law both have them and are always repairing them and to be honest so am I but I have a nasty habit of running into curbs and walls, LOL. Arrma is just better-to me anyway.
Yeah Traxxas has some Rc’s that are better than others but I have to agree with you Arrma has really stepped up their game, quality is at a all time high as well as pricing, 320 for pretty much any Rc in Arrmas 3s line except for the Vorteks, they are all super durable and pretty fast out of the box, the Rustler IMO is kinda of a let down, I like the 2wd Rustler much better, thanks for watching 👍
The arrma vorteks has got a 18 tooth stock and the rustler a 11. Rustler with high speed gearing (17t) goes faster then the vorteks.
@@Tiickel This may be true but this was a stock battle and stock the Vorteks takes it
@@rcreviews9894 that’s true
Compare apples to apples. Same gearing, same tires, this is not even close to a comparison. Lot harder to find parts for arrma.
How's the run time on the vorteks?
Pretty average or what you would expect for most Rc’s depending on how hard you drive it, 20-25 minutes, also depending on what battery you are using
@@rcreviews9894 mine doesn't get no where near that im using a 5200ah 3s. Wonder what it could be?
@@alextyson9420 battery, esc, motor??
Traxxas needs to update their old ass vxl system
Yeah, maybe they do, the rustler 4x4vxl is just slow out of the box, if you gear it up, it becomes a lot more fun to drive 👍
@@rcreviews9894 the vxl system is a 15 year old system definitely time for an update
@@07scoobywrx an update would be good 👍
Does the vlx overheat with the optional gears?
@@dannyss6679 depends if you you the high gearing for on road or smooth off road surfaces for speed runs you should be! I wouldn’t go bashing or do a lot of stopping and going
Rustler doesn't like you I haven't had any problems with mine I put the speed bringing in everything's all good I'm getting 66 mph on Pro-Line street tires haven't had a problem with drive shafts or spur gears
Probably this dude is a moron and the mesh definitely not set correctly and /or the screws weren't tightened correctly... i bough mine used so it was abused before i put the better servo in it serviced the shocks and the differential and still goes it's almost two years now just with me...
Where can I find a ramp like the small one you have?
You mean the black one right? If so I got it years ago, maybe 5 years ago, on a website called Discountramps . com not sure if they still sell them I was browsing a while back to buy another one because if you have two you can connect them and jump it from both sides but I couldn’t find it you may have better luck
What kind of battery did you run in the Vortex?
The battery I use with the Vorteks and all my other Arrmas in the 3s line is a Spectrum smart battery 50c 3s 5000 mah
Which gearings do you use in each one what the battery discharge rate in them? If they are not close it's not really a comparison... also those aren't street tyres on the rustler... not even the talon ext-s or the anacondas for teh road how can you claim comparison if the setups skewed in advance for the arrma??? How unfair you want this comparison? RC Reviews yes
I’m using stock gearing in both trucks, I don’t remember what it is but it’s stock, a Traxxas battery 3s 5000 25c in the rustler and a spectrum smart battery, 3s 5000 50c in the Vorteks
@@rcreviews9894 So twice the power in one and the other has half and one has not the correct tyre on :,D seems fair... also check the claims which one needs go how fast on the setup... at 11/54 gearing traxxas is set to 40mph which exceeded even with the incorect tyres right or wrong ? or if you check it with box parts check the gears hich they given in the price and check wich will be faster if you want to actually make a fair comparison. and if you mess with the pinion and/or the spur or check the engine use blue loctite to secure it the stripping is 99.999% user error.... mnie was sued when i bought it followed the maunal to the T 2 years past every part is still as from factory exept the servo that was shit i put the red one in it with the metal gears oh and the body quite trashed.
@@maszkalman3676 I think you are reading into it too much, at the end of the day this is simply a comparison between two stock setups and that’s it, purely entertainment purposes, the stock rustler and it’s equivalent a stock Vorteks, both 4WD, both stadium trucks, both 3s capable, nothing more, I just wanted to see which one was a better setup, gearing, tires and batteries are all extras that I didn’t want to tamper with, just a stock setup between the two, nothing more, just for fun.
@@rcreviews9894 But isn't stock tho stock means everything as it coems fro mthe box which wasn't the case.
@@maszkalman3676 both of these trucks were ran stock
You have a link to tires
Looks like the vortex is better all around. Crazy all the trouble your having with that rustler, too bad. I would not be impressed changing that stuff out so often.
Yeah, I knew the Vorteks would destroy the rustler, just had to get it on video, I’m kinda of disappointed that we didn’t get to at least jump it more before we stripped out the spur, I’ve had a lot of trouble with it, and I’m not the only one, one of my neighbors has the same Rustler just the blue one and he’s actually stopped by twice to see if I had a extra spur gears, Lol I usually buy multiples, because I know I’m gonna need them, drive shafts have been breaking on me too! That’s mainly due to the larger tires though, cause it didn’t start doing that until I installed them, the Rustler is also pretty slow out of the box compared to my 2wd, Rustler, thanks for watching brother👍
i own a rustler 4x4 also and I have nothing but problems with it. i like the truggy but just problems with it !!! I think I will get the Armma Vorteks and sell the rustler 4x4 !!!!!
Yeah the rustler is really not my favorite, I actually like the rustler vxl better, it’s fast, wheelies on command, no issues and easy to work on! The vortex definitely takes it in this video! Thanks for watching brother!🤙
@@rcreviews9894 Yeah me too I love the Rustler VXL no probs with mine but I am definitely going to get the Armma Vortex and get rid of my Rustler 4x4 😁😁😁
Rustler is no match for the Vorteks.
Yep, the Vorteks out performs the Rustler in every way, to be honest I like the 2wd Rustler way better