@@mark-1rc502 that is what I was saying. Traxxas is all non adjustable except race sport and newbie modes. Arrma has 4-5 different adjustments able to be made. And you can use a hobbywing card to adjust them.
@@carsgenixs to each their own! People drink, smoke, play video games, eat, gamble, collect real cars/motorcycles, cheat on spouses, play sports, sky diving...... whatever your hobbies are that put smiles on your face....RCs are extraordinary hobby 🤙🏾
Love the comparison, we have a couple rustler's and love them. Added slash RPM rear bumper/wheelie bar to prevent flip overs. Just hooks up and flies. I really like the looks of the arrma though, so may need another rig!! Great Stuff Mark!!
Excellent watching you and your son having so much fun. I got my Vorteks yesterday, (Purple) haven't had a chance to drive it yet, but it's very exciting. Ha. Thanks for sharing. John
Driving the Losi Lasernut in my small city has gained a lot of spectators and the few asking to drive it. Its a blast in a wet parking lot and looks so cool. Can't wait to shoot a few videos of city bashing.
I have a Lasernut and it is FANTASTIC !!! The center differential came needing 1 more shim in the center diff once i did that No issues !!! I love the stock wheels !!! Yes the LOOK IS GREAT AND VERY SCALE BUT IS RUGGED AS HECK !! LOVE LOSI :)
I bought the Vorteks. Spilled oil out of one shock and the slipper clutch went. GRANTED, I made a newbie mistake and didn’t set the clutch. Traxxas is better out of the box and tougher. I’m not a Traxxas Fanboy. I have an ERevo, Maxx, Typhon, Kaiju and several no-name cars. The Traxxas cars have not broken once….not one issue. The Vortek broke, the Kaiju had a weird issue where the pin fell out of the axle and the Typhon was the only non-Traxxas car which has not had an issue.
Its well-known with the Arrma 3S trucks that they don't have instant torque off the line. Even if you max out the punch setting on the factory ESC, it just can't deliver the amperage to flip itself over doing a wheelie. As you said though, its kind of a good thing. Also, best truck for beginners overall is the Arrma Big Rock 3S. Its cheaper price and warranty versus Traxxas makes it more affordable. The longer wheelbase and wider stance over the granite make it so easy to control, it doesn't roll over much, and being a taller truck versus the Vorteks it has the ground clearance you will want for off-road bashing and jumps. The Big Rock is simply the perfect starter RC all around, just start on 2S for the young ones and let them move up to 3S when you feel ready, and all you need is the bigger battery to make the upgrade.
maybe put the same tires on both for testing off road or swap the tires if you can. the rustler tires look like they would have more traction off road. love the looks of both those cars
Curious about where the TSM and AVC settings were at during the drifting action? Rustler 4x4 VXL was my first modern RC and I still love it even though I've since added about 8 cars to my garage LOL.
I mean, the rustler should have more low end torque, it isn't geared as highed as the vorteks. Both look like they handle great though, it's nice to have a competitor to the rustler. And that delay might not be the punch, it might be cogging from the high gearing. I noticed that on a lot of the 3s arrmas, they gear them too high.
You got me hooked. Started with Bezgar couple of months ago and just got myself Rustler 4x4. It looks so good that I don’t want to run it because it’ll get scratched😂
Just bought a Bandit VXL with TSM. Very fast and tons of fun. Don't believe I will be putting the other pinion in it. It is fast as it is. Just got done doing the same as you you guys.
Best review video yet. My pet peeve is the one thing you talk about the batteries you used the factory batteries the ones that the company recommended. Hate when folks review and throw in what they have cutting connections etc. second great thing was Q-tips drifting was on point great night with your son.
Also the vorteks, like the bigrock has a better wheelie bar angle and thicker with less flex. That's what causes the rustler to flip. I changed mine to the adjustable one to stop that.
Alright, we aren't new... have race rigs, crawlers, some just for fun stuff like a couple retro ReRe kits, and now a few onroad cars we just built... We've had a couple "bashers" over the years... started with a 2wd Stampede, and have a mini Revo around that we haven't driven for a bit... Question is... We've been looking for a "monster truck" , between AE Rival MT10, Granite 3S, and this Vorteks 3S, which do you suggest? Kinda leaning toward the Vorteks, especially if you think it would do "general offroading" as well as a Granite, and not suffer on rough terrain due to smaller tires and lower ride height... Is the Vorteks the way to go? Thanks for the videos!
@@EXTREMERC416 anything can break on those cars, arms, shocks, spur gear, links, motor mount, hub carriers, steering blocks. It can all break same as the rustler but traxxas has its own Performance Accessories line as with Arrma 3s cars a lot of the upgraded parts can either be rpm, hot racing, or gpm
@@EXTREMERC416 So the driveshafts not breaking makes it stronger? You failed to mention the toy grade diffs that the arrmas have, or the trash slipper clutch. I'd rather fix a driveshaft with 2 set screws than have to replace a whole diff.
@@gasolinediesel972 thats funny i have a 4s kraton and the diffs has been holding up. Its 2 years old i broke a few before i went to the alluminum mesh holder from hot racing since then never broke a diff. The clutch is not trash. Its nit beginner friendly like traxxas i will say that. The clutch works almost like a diff because it spins both ways. Your bassicly complaining about a 15$ diff. Its plastic yes but it holds up and if it ever fails its just 15$¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The driveshafts idk but paying 15$ every time it breaks. Mine almost broke every run. It starts to become expensive. Once its fine but every run was emptying my wallet. My rules for buying a rc is this. A bulletproof drivetrain i dont want to get diff failures or driveshafts failures. Thats why i got the exb of the 6s line i didnt want to get the RTR because of its known issues. My exb kraton has only broken one wing mount in his first year and recently the servo horn stripped. Idk man but i like my wallet
I definitely dig both cars. Contemplating replacing my losi 10mt with one of these. Love the car but hard to get parts/upgrades for now days. Has plastic links in the front and back so it's very sloppy driving 3s full speed on the street.
I love both the Rustler & the new Vorteks, if the Rustler 4x4 into the ultimate upgrade, it will probably equally catch up with the Vorteks 4x4, one advantage of the Rustler 4x4 VXL, is The clipless body mount PS: I'm from the Philippines & been an RC Hobbyist myself mostly Tamiyas
Oh you think the body flying off by itself is an advantage? Ok, I prefer to have it on if I put it on. Wait if you upgrade one and not the other it will be better, check out the big brain on this one. 🙄🙄
I have the granite which is the same as the vortex and if I grab full throttle from a stop it lands on the body and I have not messed with the esc settings. Arrma is the best!!!
I just got a vorteks out yesterday after it sitting for 3 days and its raining but it handle nice and if you getting into the setting and turn up the punch and do all your other settings youll like that arrma i got 3 of the 3s line up the typhon 3s and the big rock 3s and they are fast and can take a beating
I have the Rustler 4x4 and the stock wheelie bar is to weak. I would run mine on 2S and it could flip. I put the T-bone wheelie bar on and it solved the issue.
I upgraded my granite to 6s and took the motor and esc the blx 3s and put that in my rustler seems to have a tad more torque then the velineon motor and esc once it’s about half throttle the velineon seemed to have more torque in the beginning almost identical in my opinion as far as motor and esc combo
If you dont have the avc chip you have to play with your sitting on the remote bc i found that out the avc kept kicking on me am waiting for the avc chip to come in to do my settings cant wait
The s21 ultra is a way better phone than the iPhone 12 pro Max in many ways.they are so far ahead of the iPhone that the next iPhone won't even have all of the features that the s21 ultra has now
Great side by side initial drive and thoughts. Great to see Evan out playing along and giving his opinion as well👏👍
You need to turn the punch level up on the vorteks to get a better throttle response
He needs to calibrate the throttle EPA first
Turn the punch up on the Arrma and try it again lol
He’s using different remote probably not 100% on the vorteks
That’s the stock remote. It comes with better remote now. The punch on esc needs to be turned up to max. It is programmable unlike traxxas
The remote it comes with has 50% 75% 100% throttle switch looks like he use a different one
@@kevinwolfe5800
Perhaps not however the Traxxas ESC is set to 100% values stock . (Non adjustable) .
@@mark-1rc502 that is what I was saying. Traxxas is all non adjustable except race sport and newbie modes. Arrma has 4-5 different adjustments able to be made. And you can use a hobbywing card to adjust them.
Got my son the green VXL and we love it. He let me put lights on. Look amazing at evenings. 🇨🇱👍
EVERYTIME I go out someone is like "OMG HOW FAST IT GO" love it :)
Yah With my maxx I get that and "How much those things cost" 😉
But did i ask?
@@ajaymc6137 same with my xmaxx people call me crazy for dropping 1k on what people call a quote on quote toy
Yes, It's a toy for those who want to have real fun haha
@@carsgenixs to each their own! People drink, smoke, play video games, eat, gamble, collect real cars/motorcycles, cheat on spouses, play sports, sky diving...... whatever your hobbies are that put smiles on your face....RCs are extraordinary hobby 🤙🏾
I don't need another RC...but this video sure makes me WANT one of them
The Armma is the one the homies from RC Misfits ATL were running at the swap meet Sunday 😁 I can tell y'all they are fast!
Turn the punch/acceleration on the Vortex on the ESC to max.
Love the comparison, we have a couple rustler's and love them. Added slash RPM rear bumper/wheelie bar to prevent flip overs. Just hooks up and flies. I really like the looks of the arrma though, so may need another rig!! Great Stuff Mark!!
Excellent watching you and your son having so much fun. I got my Vorteks yesterday, (Purple) haven't had a chance to drive it yet, but it's very exciting. Ha. Thanks for sharing. John
Driving the Losi Lasernut in my small city has gained a lot of spectators and the few asking to drive it. Its a blast in a wet parking lot and looks so cool. Can't wait to shoot a few videos of city bashing.
I have a Lasernut and it is FANTASTIC !!! The center differential came needing 1 more shim in the center diff once i did that No issues !!! I love the stock wheels !!! Yes the LOOK IS GREAT AND VERY SCALE BUT IS RUGGED AS HECK !! LOVE LOSI :)
It got a bad wrap
My purple one coming this week! 😀🙏🏽
Already own them both, Mojave 4s is what blows my load always though. Got my sub for the super sweet vid with your awesome kid!
Great video mark Love that your kids took interest in the hobby man it’s the best hobby out there see ya on the next one
I bought the Vorteks. Spilled oil out of one shock and the slipper clutch went. GRANTED, I made a newbie mistake and didn’t set the clutch. Traxxas is better out of the box and tougher. I’m not a Traxxas Fanboy. I have an ERevo, Maxx, Typhon, Kaiju and several no-name cars. The Traxxas cars have not broken once….not one issue. The Vortek broke, the Kaiju had a weird issue where the pin fell out of the axle and the Typhon was the only non-Traxxas car which has not had an issue.
running the tires from the 4x4 vxl rustler on a 2wd and it handles like butter, waving at you from Michigan stay cool Mark.
Its well-known with the Arrma 3S trucks that they don't have instant torque off the line. Even if you max out the punch setting on the factory ESC, it just can't deliver the amperage to flip itself over doing a wheelie. As you said though, its kind of a good thing. Also, best truck for beginners overall is the Arrma Big Rock 3S. Its cheaper price and warranty versus Traxxas makes it more affordable. The longer wheelbase and wider stance over the granite make it so easy to control, it doesn't roll over much, and being a taller truck versus the Vorteks it has the ground clearance you will want for off-road bashing and jumps. The Big Rock is simply the perfect starter RC all around, just start on 2S for the young ones and let them move up to 3S when you feel ready, and all you need is the bigger battery to make the upgrade.
The vortex should be a better only for the driveshafts
maybe put the same tires on both for testing off road or swap the tires if you can. the rustler tires look like they would have more traction off road. love the looks of both those cars
I enjoyed the video. It's always good to get the younger driver's opinions.
Excited for my vorteks to show up solid video
I'm a little late to the show, but this was truly a nice video. I'm new to the hobby, and these cars look really stable at speeds. Thanks! 🙂
I have a rustler and i love it. You have a great channel! Kind regards from the Netherlands.
you can adjust the punch setting on the Vortex. Stock it comes in around 5 I think. Take it up to 7 or 8!
The wheelie bar on the rustler flexes and it flips back. There’s an optional wheelie bar that can bed put on the rustler to avoid that flex.
pay mo money, should be traxxas slogan. just design it right. its free.
@@High_Octane 😭
I like. The hoss wheelie bar on mine
Curious about where the TSM and AVC settings were at during the drifting action? Rustler 4x4 VXL was my first modern RC and I still love it even though I've since added about 8 cars to my garage LOL.
Nice video , ill have my Vorteks 4x4 Friday and ill do a stock long speed run against my buddy's Rustler 4x4 vxl 😁
Which one is better?
I mean, the rustler should have more low end torque, it isn't geared as highed as the vorteks. Both look like they handle great though, it's nice to have a competitor to the rustler. And that delay might not be the punch, it might be cogging from the high gearing. I noticed that on a lot of the 3s arrmas, they gear them too high.
You got me hooked. Started with Bezgar couple of months ago and just got myself Rustler 4x4. It looks so good that I don’t want to run it because it’ll get scratched😂
Why didn't you get the vorteks?
@@DUNGSTA this is my first hobby grade RC I don’t know if one is better than the other
Do it again with the rustler on the first blink on the esc
This video determined my purchase just now.........
Just bought a Bandit VXL with TSM. Very fast and tons of fun. Don't believe I will be putting the other pinion in it. It is fast as it is. Just got done doing the same as you you guys.
Im diggin the pink n purple arrma.
A quick run on pavement is a good start but we need a more thorough test, PLEASE! And, yes, turn up the punch on the Arrma 👍
He didn't want to damage the rustler special edition shell
Those would both be good to see at that guys own RC track you ran at recently. Just the right size.
Great video, too many good rc cars out there. Now I want a vortexs. I was hoping that I would be able to save for a kraton 6s or kraton exb
Best review video yet. My pet peeve is the one thing you talk about the batteries you used the factory batteries the ones that the company recommended. Hate when folks review and throw in what they have cutting connections etc. second great thing was Q-tips drifting was on point great night with your son.
my granite blx has that delay even after putting the gt5 raidio in it.i believe its in the esc
Give ‘er the beans 🤣
Great job....hard to choose which one to get....lol.....great video....be safe and have fun
Nice cars to use in the neighborhood races 🏎👌🏽
Great video
Also the vorteks, like the bigrock has a better wheelie bar angle and thicker with less flex. That's what causes the rustler to flip. I changed mine to the adjustable one to stop that.
Hi congratulations for the channel , Which one would you take
Thank you
That Vorteks is cooooool!
Adjust the punch(acceleration) You can tune the throttle curve
Alright, we aren't new... have race rigs, crawlers, some just for fun stuff like a couple retro ReRe kits, and now a few onroad cars we just built... We've had a couple "bashers" over the years... started with a 2wd Stampede, and have a mini Revo around that we haven't driven for a bit...
Question is... We've been looking for a "monster truck" , between AE Rival MT10, Granite 3S, and this Vorteks 3S, which do you suggest? Kinda leaning toward the Vorteks, especially if you think it would do "general offroading" as well as a Granite, and not suffer on rough terrain due to smaller tires and lower ride height...
Is the Vorteks the way to go?
Thanks for the videos!
Love your comparisons mate! Not just these.. Love all your content! Thank you!
I would be interested in a cost comparison on upgrades and or replacement parts.
Thres isnt a lot of upgrades for the 3s arrma range. They dont need it. The most common upgrades are the motor mount, pivot balls and rear Cnc diff
@@EXTREMERC416 anything can break on those cars, arms, shocks, spur gear, links, motor mount, hub carriers, steering blocks. It can all break same as the rustler but traxxas has its own Performance Accessories line as with Arrma 3s cars a lot of the upgraded parts can either be rpm, hot racing, or gpm
I know but the arrma driveshafts break a lot less than the traxxas ones.
@@EXTREMERC416 So the driveshafts not breaking makes it stronger? You failed to mention the toy grade diffs that the arrmas have, or the trash slipper clutch. I'd rather fix a driveshaft with 2 set screws than have to replace a whole diff.
@@gasolinediesel972 thats funny i have a 4s kraton and the diffs has been holding up. Its 2 years old i broke a few before i went to the alluminum mesh holder from hot racing since then never broke a diff. The clutch is not trash. Its nit beginner friendly like traxxas i will say that. The clutch works almost like a diff because it spins both ways. Your bassicly complaining about a 15$ diff. Its plastic yes but it holds up and if it ever fails its just 15$¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The driveshafts idk but paying 15$ every time it breaks. Mine almost broke every run. It starts to become expensive. Once its fine but every run was emptying my wallet. My rules for buying a rc is this. A bulletproof drivetrain i dont want to get diff failures or driveshafts failures. Thats why i got the exb of the 6s line i didnt want to get the RTR because of its known issues. My exb kraton has only broken one wing mount in his first year and recently the servo horn stripped. Idk man but i like my wallet
Thanks this will help my decisions it is between those 2
Vorteks is a beast.🔥🔥
I definitely dig both cars. Contemplating replacing my losi 10mt with one of these. Love the car but hard to get parts/upgrades for now days. Has plastic links in the front and back so it's very sloppy driving 3s full speed on the street.
That was a great video. I still think the Rustler is a better truck. The plastic parts worry me. Take care be safe.
I love both the Rustler & the new Vorteks, if the Rustler 4x4 into the ultimate upgrade, it will probably equally catch up with the Vorteks 4x4, one advantage of the Rustler 4x4 VXL, is The clipless body mount
PS: I'm from the Philippines & been an RC Hobbyist myself mostly Tamiyas
Oh you think the body flying off by itself is an advantage? Ok, I prefer to have it on if I put it on. Wait if you upgrade one and not the other it will be better, check out the big brain on this one. 🙄🙄
I have the granite which is the same as the vortex and if I grab full throttle from a stop it lands on the body and I have not messed with the esc settings. Arrma is the best!!!
It's your 50c battery I put 120c it's a beast but that battery not recommended hard running it will slow down for safety tho
I just got a vorteks out yesterday after it sitting for 3 days and its raining but it handle nice and if you getting into the setting and turn up the punch and do all your other settings youll like that arrma i got 3 of the 3s line up the typhon 3s and the big rock 3s and they are fast and can take a beating
I think the rustler just has a ton of torque.
Nice cars bro
Both very nice! But I would have to go with the vortex.
My felony needs a parking lot like that.
Do you need to buy the gear to make the traxxas faster? Does arrma provide it free? Thanks mate 🇬🇧
Yep turn the punch up on the Vorteks from number 3 up to 5.
You can adjust punch on the arrma if you want more.
I think that maybe what you were trying to say, is that maybe the Vorteks is a bit more forgiving.
I have the Rustler 4x4 and the stock wheelie bar is to weak. I would run mine on 2S and it could flip. I put the T-bone wheelie bar on and it solved the issue.
2021 and traxxas cant design a plastic wheelie bar.... psh.
Throttle curve or linear throttle matters in simple parking lot bash/play?
I understand in racing competition ..
I thought this was a traxxas channel 😜
How is the ease of driving a Rustler vxl 4x4 vs the Rustler vxl 2wd?
Things are nice
I can look at the position of both wheelie bars and see why the rustler flips backwards and the vortex doesn’t.
And where did you get that body? That is so clean.
I upgraded my granite to 6s and took the motor and esc the blx 3s and put that in my rustler seems to have a tad more torque then the velineon motor and esc once it’s about half throttle the velineon seemed to have more torque in the beginning almost identical in my opinion as far as motor and esc combo
You can up the punch in vorteks for better throttle response
Maybe it's the ESC punch settings affecting acceleration.
Nice bro👍
The stock wheelie bar on the rustler sucks. Way to flexible. Upgrade with the RPM adapter and the 2wd adjustable wheelie bar from traxxas. WAY better.
Have fun
Lol a lot of beans 😂
Do both have a slipper clutch? That will impact the punch too
What driveshafts should I get for my wife's rustler 4x4 she broke three driveshafts in the rear two within one battery time any suggestions 🤔
If you dont have the avc chip you have to play with your sitting on the remote bc i found that out the avc kept kicking on me am waiting for the avc chip to come in to do my settings cant wait
Any thoughts on the team associated sc5m?
Give er’ the beans 🤣
cool video
Need to do a durability test. Of course different bodies
Noob question which would you buy Arrma or Traxxas
The s21 ultra is a way better phone than the iPhone 12 pro Max in many ways.they are so far ahead of the iPhone that the next iPhone won't even have all of the features that the s21 ultra has now
I ordered a 4x2 vortex the end of the month hobby shop still has not received it yet. 2 and a half weeks later. Still no car What's up with Horizon?
i think the vorteks has a stiffer wheelie bar the rustler bar has flex
You should do a track test.
Just a thought should grabbed some clear bodies to do this so you didn’t have to worry about scratching them.
Make sure your throttle expo is turned all the way up.
Yeah slash two wheel drive flips easily on lipo but on nickel hydrate it barely flips
Who new starting side by side was so difficult?
The rustler sound more aggressive i have one and im getting the vorteks and the rustler is only using 25c
What to do with those big 3s lipos once these can not be used anymore?
FULLY drain them all the way. and bring to eco center.
Scratch your body up what about crashing the arrma as a beginner as it lacks tsm which helps a lot.
Yeah it it better bty because it’s just way more stronger and THE DRIVE SHAFTS DONT BRAKE!
Thats a fact even on the 4s trucks the arrma ones just dont stap they offer an upgrade for like 50$ but who needs that unless you do crazy stuff
I thought the vorteks was 10 - 15mph quicker out of the box.
Yeah not really and I can just put the pinion slightly up on the traxxas to the same as the arrma and add a cooler for the esc and your good to go.
Ya you didint turn the vortex on 100% because the rustler should be alot slower and the vortek should be out running it
Bring out the lumpia on Vorteks