"Workers own the means of production" So a government is comprised of citizen workers, the means of production for a government is country and people. If workers own the means of production, an the government is workers, an the means are people an country....the government owns the people an country. 🤷♂️ it really isn't complex to see how marxism always goes bad. The issue in America is these kids want to separate government an citizen into two different categories but citizens begat government, that is not separable. There is no workers and bureaucrats, only people which make up both categories. The idea you can keep government from the equation never works, the only way is to never civilize.
Sorry to break this to that lad but the workers are the people and how can the workers own the means of production when private property is not allowed so the government would run it
@@bgfjb1995 Bud, we see everywhere in real time. Too many people got tictoc brain. If it's more than 5 seconds of information then they can't stay on track.
@@Lugghandle I’m not trying to argue it’s not happening or isn’t an issue I’m just saying the internet gives people misconceptions about how the real world is. People jump to broad conclusions about everything when what you’re seeing on the internet may rarely ever happen or be a small subset of the population. Like old heads saying all kids now are have blue hair and are gay/trans that kind of stuff when that’s a tiny fraction of the actual population.
@@Lugghandle and what I meant by biggest downfall of humanity is it’s become dangerous how it gives people a false sense of reality, that they can say whatever they want with no consequences, masses of people are swayed politically by misinfo and bs, etc just a lot of crap. The internet is an amazing tool but it has become a cesspool of bs and everything these days.
If the workers own the means of production and the company goes bankrupt show the workers have to sell their property to pay the debt because that's the responsibility the owner takes.
People these days seem to think left and right extremes are opposites, but they are not. I encourage everyone to look into the horseshoe theory…. Basically take your far left and far right on a big line and bend it into a horseshoe, the far left and the far right or a lot closer together than the center the only difference is how you get there
I have learned about this throughout my time as a social studies teacher and I'm going to tell everyone here the same thing I reiterate to my students: Communism sounds SO GOOD ON PAPER, but in practice, it never works. At the end of the day, it gives one person or a small group of people WAY too much power, and they exploit that to the nines.
Childhood: under capitalism: mommy and daddy worked for their money and can buy you a nice birthday present. Childhood under communism: Mommy and daddy worked hard, but the government took all their extra money and did whatever they want with it. You are told to be happy you have nothing. Happy birthday.
The individualist in a hunting and gathering society, the one who took the antelope to eat it all himself in some remote place, got eaten by wild animals.
Somebody has to tell Kirk that humans have always shared. It is impossible for the human race to have evolved without cooperation. We shared the hunt, the gathering, the food from the village, The first civilizations were theocracies, not individualist, selfish little basstards. They did things together for their godking.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@Soul5kull its very commonly practiced with indigenous peoples because you have to to survive,thats our basest truest nature,it wasnt until modern empires started thousands of years ago when it became about self
Once again I say “Lord help us!”
Amen
Love Charlie so much , his patience is unbelievable ❤️🙏
Good to hear you get how crazy this shit is.
College students need to work for about 20 years in the private sector until they have a right to have an opinion..
😂😂
That would probably radicalize them even more
"Workers own the means of production"
So a government is comprised of citizen workers, the means of production for a government is country and people. If workers own the means of production, an the government is workers, an the means are people an country....the government owns the people an country. 🤷♂️ it really isn't complex to see how marxism always goes bad. The issue in America is these kids want to separate government an citizen into two different categories but citizens begat government, that is not separable. There is no workers and bureaucrats, only people which make up both categories. The idea you can keep government from the equation never works, the only way is to never civilize.
Sorry to break this to that lad but the workers are the people and how can the workers own the means of production when private property is not allowed so the government would run it
Why can’t these young people speak from their HEADS!!!! THE HAVE TO READ EVERYTHING FROM THEIR DAMN PHONES 😡😡😡
Y’all see a few things on the internet then paint a broad stroke of all kids are like this 🙄 the internet is the biggest downfall of humanity
@@bgfjb1995 Bud, we see everywhere in real time. Too many people got tictoc brain. If it's more than 5 seconds of information then they can't stay on track.
@@bgfjb1995 This happens everywhere he goes. WTF are you using the internet?
@@Lugghandle I’m not trying to argue it’s not happening or isn’t an issue I’m just saying the internet gives people misconceptions about how the real world is. People jump to broad conclusions about everything when what you’re seeing on the internet may rarely ever happen or be a small subset of the population. Like old heads saying all kids now are have blue hair and are gay/trans that kind of stuff when that’s a tiny fraction of the actual population.
@@Lugghandle and what I meant by biggest downfall of humanity is it’s become dangerous how it gives people a false sense of reality, that they can say whatever they want with no consequences, masses of people are swayed politically by misinfo and bs, etc just a lot of crap. The internet is an amazing tool but it has become a cesspool of bs and everything these days.
205k followers only 60 comments , hope your growth continues and people acknowledge your content
I swear these kids just wanna show off how many books they’ve read rather than really solving any issues
Student likes to argue but does not know what he is concluding
Fascism started in Italy. Look it up.
That kid thinks he is the smartest idiot in the room.
time to use an old phrase, there's a village that's missing it's idiot somewhere.
If the workers own the means of production and the company goes bankrupt show the workers have to sell their property to pay the debt because that's the responsibility the owner takes.
If the workers own the means of production and company than the workers shouldn't expect a paycheck if the company doesn't turn a profit
Have you ever heard of an LLC?
People these days seem to think left and right extremes are opposites, but they are not. I encourage everyone to look into the horseshoe theory….
Basically take your far left and far right on a big line and bend it into a horseshoe, the far left and the far right or a lot closer together than the center the only difference is how you get there
I was at that rally and behind the Marxist and the women who yelled at Charlie about her father being a illegal immigrant
Sorry to say this kid needs help. Maybe a flow chart or a visual reference or a bat or something
Not education. It’s Indoctrination
I have learned about this throughout my time as a social studies teacher and I'm going to tell everyone here the same thing I reiterate to my students: Communism sounds SO GOOD ON PAPER, but in practice, it never works. At the end of the day, it gives one person or a small group of people WAY too much power, and they exploit that to the nines.
"Charlie Cake"
Charlie is absolutely right
This is very sad!!! Thete will never be an end....
Great work with the channel my friend!
This kid doubling down on Marxism, Kirk demonstrated numerous examples of why Marxism does work. They can both denounce Facism & Marxism
Why debate to college students ? Debate to actual communists
8:57 this person is literally evil.
Since I found you and I heard your particular accent I always wondered: where do you come from brother? I cannot guess
You really need to balance your mic volumes. You are loud but the video you show is too quite.
Thank you for your feedback, I will work on that
I had no problem at all.
Childhood: under capitalism: mommy and daddy worked for their money and can buy you a nice birthday present.
Childhood under communism: Mommy and daddy worked hard, but the government took all their extra money and did whatever they want with it. You are told to be happy you have nothing. Happy birthday.
Ive subbed mate , every one counts
The individualist in a hunting and gathering society, the one who took the antelope to eat it all himself in some remote place, got eaten by wild animals.
Why do airlines tell you to put your mask on yourself before you help the people nearby?
Somebody has to tell Kirk that humans have always shared. It is impossible for the human race to have evolved without cooperation. We shared the hunt, the gathering, the food from the village, The first civilizations were theocracies, not individualist, selfish little basstards. They did things together for their godking.
Marxism truly keeps everybody equal; equally poor I mean.
Please name a few countries that have truly prospered with Marxism.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
@@KolyaBennett China and the Soviet Union, both were peasant societies and became world superpowers. China pulls more people out of poverty than any other country on earth.
Sorry i have a hard time understanding when you talk, otherwise i would have subscribed
Microscopic wiener energy 👍
Kinda below the belt. I have a tiny pp and I'm not Marxist 😂
Communism 🔛🔝
saying humans are selfish is an easy excuse,we arent born selfish we just have a strong instinct to survive that can be twisted into selfish desires.
So we are aligned naturally with behaviours that drives individual survival...otherwise known as selfishness
@@ratillecebrasquedubitantiu4451 selfishness is only a form it can take,since we are a social species cooperation lends better to our survival
@@jasondeslatte7611However, it is rarely ever truly practiced. People tend to use cooperation as a mask for selfisness
@@Soul5kull its very commonly practiced with indigenous peoples because you have to to survive,thats our basest truest nature,it wasnt until modern empires started thousands of years ago when it became about self
Wrong, all wrong
Charlie confuses socialism with comunist dictators.