They tried to ignite a volcano near lavaridge town, held a weather instute's staff hostage, stole a submarine, stole a relic from a grave site and in emerald tried to take control of the mossdeep space center. How is this not evil?
@@shade2075 imean isnt that the plot of the Rescue Heros movie? edit: nvm theyre trying to STOP a volcanoe and then the firefighter gets magic poisoned or something (idc) and they have to find a flower
I mean you, could you solve the problem of the volcanoes by just redirecting the lava to the ocean just to create more land I mean, as long as that happens and you just evacuate people from the area then it should be fine
Well. Expanding the land isn't terrible in and of itself, but doing it by waking Godzilla to have him run lava flows through populated areas miiiiiight be a bad plan.
@@redash4239I’d guess using some strong ground types with earthquake around a fault line, causing a divergent plate boundary to shift, causing more land to rise out of the sea. Seems doable, but has its risks, I could imagine. Basically just creating volcanoes. One way to get some more land without harming the sea life. In fact, the volcanic vents that would surround the newly created islands would become a breeding ground for more life to thrive. Sorry, my morning adderall has me overthinking a pokemon what if scenario… 😂😂😂😂💀
I came here to comment that. According to a quick google search, roughly 50 percent of our breathable oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean. Depending on the amount of water converted to land, this could kill basically on life on the planet
@@KieranNoelMost of our sealife is coastal too, as the middle oceans are desert, so even if he evaporates only the coast that's all it takes to end all life
@@derpidius6306His plan wasn't to evaporate the water, he wanted to build more land, so theoretically he could have moved the plants to the new coasts that Groudon produced. Unfortunately, he apparently didn't know about Groudon's drought ability, and had to watch helplessly as a literal child solved the problem
@PyroGothNerd He definitely knew about Groudon's drought ability, and his desire to create more land was intended to come at the expense of the ocean, if his intent wasn't to evaporate at least SOME of the ocean he wouldn't have been the antagonist
fuck we need a real deep dive into this, who has the full transcription of the hoen games and also since its meowth and team rocket having the convo does that mean we should be following the ideology of team magma in the show, the games, or both?
You forgot one very important detail: the anime goes out of its way to have Maxie specify that he only planned on increasing the landass by 30%, meaning he never intended on getting rid of all water or even most of the ocean.
Fuck the ocean because what has has the ocean done for me lately nothing absolutely nothing whereas all of the land routes gives me the best shit ever, so clearly Team Magma did nothing wrong at all.
Team Magma tried to erupt an active volcano by dumping a bunch of rocket fuel into it in Emerald. Hard to see the appeal of them creating more land when they're okay with making a lot of the land they already have uninhabitable in the process.
More land would be catastrophic. It would cause a domino effect that would result in more earthquakes due to groundon rearenging/breaking the tecnonic plates and would lead to more tornadoes due to the water in the oceans heating faster. It would backfire FAST
I mean a little bit of land couldn’t do that bad I mean after all, if we just get more land, it should be fine I mean I just give us more land a decade
Like the kids say, “horrendous take” not only does every living thing require water, more land means more people requiring more water (see:US west coast)
He never intended to get rid of all the water! That was a UNINTENDED side effect of summoning Groudon. Heck, in the anime Maxie specifies he only wants to increase the land mass by 30% The water he WAS planning to reduce the amount of was undrinkable. Everyone knows you can't drink ocean water because of the salt.
Also, fun fact, most life in the ocean are located near the coastlines, at most several dozen if not a hundred miles away from it. Plus more land means more home for every creature on the planet and more chances for nutrient distribution. Waking up a tattooed Godzilla with serious beef with Free Willy isn't the way to go though.
Do you think Team Magma did anything wrong?
They might what more land. But groundon would've caused droughts
I dont love their fashion sense, team aqua on the other hand got drip
They tried to ignite a volcano near lavaridge town, held a weather instute's staff hostage, stole a submarine, stole a relic from a grave site and in emerald tried to take control of the mossdeep space center. How is this not evil?
@@shade2075 imean isnt that the plot of the Rescue Heros movie?
edit: nvm theyre trying to STOP a volcanoe and then the firefighter gets magic poisoned or something (idc) and they have to find a flower
I mean you, could you solve the problem of the volcanoes by just redirecting the lava to the ocean just to create more land I mean, as long as that happens and you just evacuate people from the area then it should be fine
Well. Expanding the land isn't terrible in and of itself, but doing it by waking Godzilla to have him run lava flows through populated areas miiiiiight be a bad plan.
Agreed
i would like to know how will they accomplish how expand the "land" without groudon
@@redash4239*points to ground and rock types* literally can make free realistate
@@redash4239I’d guess using some strong ground types with earthquake around a fault line, causing a divergent plate boundary to shift, causing more land to rise out of the sea. Seems doable, but has its risks, I could imagine. Basically just creating volcanoes. One way to get some more land without harming the sea life. In fact, the volcanic vents that would surround the newly created islands would become a breeding ground for more life to thrive. Sorry, my morning adderall has me overthinking a pokemon what if scenario… 😂😂😂😂💀
@@Paxamerican8470 The average rock and ground type can only produce a few boulders, and they're usually taking them from existing rocks and dirt
Team magma: “evaporates ocean”
Most of our oxygen: “I don’t feel so good”
I came here to comment that. According to a quick google search, roughly 50 percent of our breathable oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean. Depending on the amount of water converted to land, this could kill basically on life on the planet
@@KieranNoelMost of our sealife is coastal too, as the middle oceans are desert, so even if he evaporates only the coast that's all it takes to end all life
@@derpidius6306His plan wasn't to evaporate the water, he wanted to build more land, so theoretically he could have moved the plants to the new coasts that Groudon produced.
Unfortunately, he apparently didn't know about Groudon's drought ability, and had to watch helplessly as a literal child solved the problem
@PyroGothNerd He definitely knew about Groudon's drought ability, and his desire to create more land was intended to come at the expense of the ocean, if his intent wasn't to evaporate at least SOME of the ocean he wouldn't have been the antagonist
@@PyroGothNerdyou can’t just move coastline like that
Team Magma’s goals reflected the homeless crisis in early 2000s Japan
One small problem, groudon doesn't like getting woke up
Team magma did nothing wrong. They were just tryna get the ign rating above 7.8 .
Archie was against him, and the redesign of Archie in oras is hot.
That's it. That's my entire argument.
Mudkip used rock stare!
It had no effect…
They did Tabitha Wrong lol
Groudon will cause a drought but if they tries another idea it might've been better.
The only problem with Team Magma's plan was that they wanted to cause a volcano to erupt in order to go about their Netherlands project.
All the corsola and fish Pokémon that would’ve been cremated by the morally sound procedure:
The ghost-type Corsola is better anyway.
I.. I mean they had good intentions I just felt like they could’ve gone in a very different route
fuck we need a real deep dive into this, who has the full transcription of the hoen games and also since its meowth and team rocket having the convo does that mean we should be following the ideology of team magma in the show, the games, or both?
I mean they did something wrong, like stealing stuff. I think.
As far as I know, the only thing they took was a meteorite, which wasn't technically owned by anyone. Team Rocket is the one who steals stuff.
Pretty sure they stole that one submarine, right?
@@s24bro58that was Aqua
THIS. Their only mistake was thinking that they would be able to control Groudon
You forgot one very important detail: the anime goes out of its way to have Maxie specify that he only planned on increasing the landass by 30%, meaning he never intended on getting rid of all water or even most of the ocean.
I don't think team aqua did anything wrong they just want to protect the ocean
Fuck the ocean because what has has the ocean done for me lately nothing absolutely nothing whereas all of the land routes gives me the best shit ever, so clearly Team Magma did nothing wrong at all.
They wanted to create more water which would doom everyone but water pokemon
@@legalza0843 idk
Would fuck up the climate and probably cover the entirety of Hoenn in lava but if they had another safer method than Groudon maybe
Team Magma tried to erupt an active volcano by dumping a bunch of rocket fuel into it in Emerald. Hard to see the appeal of them creating more land when they're okay with making a lot of the land they already have uninhabitable in the process.
More land would be catastrophic. It would cause a domino effect that would result in more earthquakes due to groundon rearenging/breaking the tecnonic plates and would lead to more tornadoes due to the water in the oceans heating faster. It would backfire FAST
ALL HAIL TEAM AQUA! WRESTLE THE WHALE!
They were trying to stop Team Aqua.
By adjusting the land you ruin the climates of areas. If the Panama Isthus never Existed Europe would be more like Siberia
Also the Mediterranean Sea is like a Shield to Europe, preventing Desertification from the Sahara desert in North Africa, look up "Atlantropa Project"
Real life team magma out here
as a representative of team sky, they did use land pokemon
team magma are the heroes hoenn needed but didn't deserve 🌋
Less water means less magikarp, how could we live in a world with les MAGIKARP
This is why i love team magma
Me when i really wanna destroy ecosystems
I agree wholeheartedly. Then again, I actually have a huge crush on Maxie, so I may be slightly biased. 😅
The dutch people dit the facking same
I'm resisting the urge to say it... but I don't know for how long I can hold it...
team magma ain't wrong
IGN would not complain that there's too much water
I mean a little bit of land couldn’t do that bad I mean after all, if we just get more land, it should be fine I mean I just give us more land a decade
i would be in team magma
Agreed. And here's a sub
Too much water 7.8/10
Team Magma did nothing wrong
Yeah morally they were right
But like… they nearly killed everyone to do this.
Exactly.
Team W
Like the kids say, “horrendous take” not only does every living thing require water, more land means more people requiring more water (see:US west coast)
He never intended to get rid of all the water! That was a UNINTENDED side effect of summoning Groudon. Heck, in the anime Maxie specifies he only wants to increase the land mass by 30%
The water he WAS planning to reduce the amount of was undrinkable. Everyone knows you can't drink ocean water because of the salt.
First view
Also, fun fact, most life in the ocean are located near the coastlines, at most several dozen if not a hundred miles away from it. Plus more land means more home for every creature on the planet and more chances for nutrient distribution.
Waking up a tattooed Godzilla with serious beef with Free Willy isn't the way to go though.