The list of solutions you provided to help reduce the risk of theft was well-explained, especially as you showed how they can be placed on your bike and how they function.
When allowed we tour lots and at night parked we do lock the bikes together. Our main strategy is carefully picking our accommodation. Hotels with secure (ideally underground parking in cities) and places in the country so far out the way that it's too much trouble for thieves.
@@oldfella4096 Completely agree, wife and I stopped at the Buccleuch Arms Moffat and they lock the rear yard at night and have individual parking garages, it's also a great hotel. Did a couple of vids recently on my channel where we stopped there.
My favourite tip is to use the disc lock on the back wheel - makes moving it around wheelbarrow style by lifting the bars more difficult. Also, along the same lines, jam it into a small space front-first
Mine goes on the rear as well. Don't put all the security on one wheel. Steering lock on the front, disc lock on the rear. If you want to steal it you better bring 2 dollys or a few large mates.
I watched TMF's Monimoto video and then immediately purchased one. I would certainly recommend one of these brilliant devices. Well worth it and so easy to use. Its already saved my bike. Another great video Andy. Thanks mate :)
I had the exact airbag jacket as worn in this video when they first came on to the market, I could get on with it, to big, bulky & weight my shoulders down
Love your reviews and advice on all things biking 😎👍 I just can’t get the picture of the comedian Harry Hill out of my head when watching 🤣😂 Keep making great content buddy 👍
Thanks for some good security tips. Ryan at FortNine also did a torture test of several locks. (Surprisingly, bike theft is more than twice as likely in the UK as here in the lawless US of A.)
I think the layering of different alarms is one of the important factors because no one cares about a single alarm but when different alarms are triggering at the same time people do check about their car and that put some heat on the thieves. I live in south america, my bike, the disklock, the chain, and even my case has alarm (coocase luxury, check it), I'm only missing that brakes grip thingy, but when someone touches the bike and all the alarms trigger its a freaking carnival and everybody turns to look. Here fancy covers don't work, they steal the cover. It only works if its a discreet security cover with grommets so you can pass your chain through it. Yeah, 3rd world.
Andy cheers for this vid like the quick format and the products yer using good ideas to have some idea on pricing as good few of them of interest to me cheers
Use a 'pull pin' type personal panic alarm on your bike cover connected to the lower section of the cover. If the cover is pulled / lower section separated, it sets off the panic alarm.
Yes it’s a neat idea and nice and compact to carry - as convenient as a disk lock and provides another layer of deterrent....plus you can’t ride off with it in place....
Good ideas, thank you! I was just watching this video for the first time and noticed that bent front wheel...which reminded me of a large pothole I fell into recently...
Thanks MTF after saving money on buying the Lite lock ,I have just saved some more money on the Zovii Hand Brake Lock .This Hand Brake Lock is a cracking piece of kit ,it so light and is great for just sticking in your pocket and just perfect for locking your bike up even on a day trip .I can recommend them both . Keep it up TMF I am buying some great kit and saving shed loads of money
Bike thieves generally lift and load into vans, so alarmed deterrents are the best if you can't physically chain the bike to an immovable object. The Zovii ones look good as they make loading difficult as well. Oh, and don't forget your good ol' steering lock to make things awkward too! :)
Yes I think using the steering lock is definitely worth doing but on their own they're pretty easy to defeat apparently so I certainly wouldn't just rely on that...should have mentioned it though, thanks for the reminder!
It’s definitely good to see you in a helite air vest it’s definitely a bit of motorcycle safety kit that’s worth adding to your personal protection kit ,😎☝️👌 I had my first one in 2016 it saved my life in 2018 with a 50 mph impact to my back , I’m now wearing the new e- turtle and that definitely takes it up a level, another good vid keep up the good work have a merry Xmas 👌🇬🇧👌
Thanks BB and to you - and yes one of the things I like about the Helite Turtle I have is the brilliant back protector....video coming on that soon....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I look forward to seeing that 😎☝️ I did a review on the e-turtle this year it was my first one ☝️ made me realise RUclips is definitely not easy and showed how good you RUclips stars ✨ are lol but I’ve enjoyed what I’ve done this year it’s kept me sane ,
Morning TMF! GS is looking good. Not seen her for a while. I use Kryptonite products when I travel and move around. A disc lock/alarm plus a hefty looking padlock (which you can combine with a chain) on the front and a D-bolt on the rear. All packs away easily in the topcase. The advantage of an alarm is that even if someone tries to break into the topcase, the vibrations transfer to the wheel and set the alarm off.
On my brand new motorcycle i have a cover, anchor and chain, disc lock and the monimoto device. I have to say after applying the layering principle you suggested, i sleep much better at night! Not even a crew of thiefs can steal my bike now 😁
Great info Mr.Fly, great security- especially helps on bigger bikes. Out and about on my old Ducati, it’s never out of sight. Too many bike ‘crooks’ as you say 😆. Well put.
That grip lock is a great idea , disk locks not 4 me too easy to ride off with it still on the disk ....yes i have ....lol . Use the oxford big alarmed pad lock thro the rear sproket with bright lanyard over the bike tied to front brake and twist grip , its only a hi vis 6mm tent line but looks like some sort ov special thing tied across the bike ...
Nice helpful vid with some very sound principles. Locking it to something solid, if possible, is a good tip too for those buggers that just lift the bike up security devices & all & put it in the back of a van!
Hi TMF .....Hi Viz? is that new for you also, not sure I have seen you in that before, welcome to the club! great tips on security by the way all my stuff is too heavy.
My bikes an old hack and I don't have a top box so I buy relatively cheap, very lightweight security but layer up. I use a disc lock on the rear sprocket, an alarmed disc lock on the front and always try to cable lock my bike to a post or another bike. Trying to secure to something immovable helps stop it just being thrown into a van.
Last tour I parked my bike directly outside the tent with my Almax chain and squire sc65 lock on, as well as abus disclocks front and rear, and the alarm on. I did contemplate taking the cover but I thought it would be a bit excessive. 😂
Good video helpful content thanks. I haven't got a bike yet but intend to get a ninja 300 this year and I always wondered about bike security when out and about. I think I'll find it difficult at first to relax but I guess as time goes on with no incidents it'll become the norm.
I live near London and have had one bike stolen in 48 years. I just use one reasonable lock but try to park in a 'safe' location and out of sight when at home. I've known friends have their bikes stolen when on holiday in Europe, take your security with you.
When I rode sport bikes thieves would use lumber to slide through your wheels and 4 guys could easily lift the bike and load into a stolen moving truck. I always put mine inside my apartment or in a locked garage. Thieves suck!
The longer or the more often a bike is left at a specific location the higher the risk of it getting stolen but you can't take your locked garage with you wherever you go. In high risk areas you need to use higher quality locks and chains and secure the bike to something solid, the more layers of security the better. People often spend £10K on a bike or more and expect to be able to secure it by spending less than £100 on security, it doesn't make sense !
Noce to see the old boy out for a ride, not you Mr Flyer.... the real star the GS, the soundtrack of your formative years. I do like the handlebar lock, disc lock and Monimoto, the bar lock as a quick fit and the disc lock as an audible deterrent, and should it all go wrong, the tracker to locate. Had to reduce the contrast on the screen as your vest is a little loud! Cracking informative vid !
WARNING. One of our Ulysses club members has been using a disc lock on his back wheel for years. He came out of a club meeting a couple of months ago, actually mentioned to the guy he was talking to that he had to remove his disk lock. He kept the conversation going and obviously got distracted. He jumped on his bike (a very nice one) and down he went with massive damage to the rear end.of his bike and injury to himself. He does not expect to get his bike back from repair until next January or February, parts the hold up. Insurance assessor told him that it happens all the time, and he would have been better off to have had his bike stolen. If you are going to use one of these devices, get one that makes it impossible to start your bike until the device is removed.
Hi ! Flyer.......When i use a cover , i use one with the eyelets so one can lock the cover through the front wheel with a bicycle lock also a disc lock on then turn the wheel so the disc lock hides itself partially then add a second disc lock. Cheers, EBC
Lovely video, think I'll get a couple of those Zovii bits of kit (already bought the Litelok last year with one of your magic codes). Can't agree with the covers thing enough - ridden into and out of London for the last five years on a multitude of bikes and the only time it wasn't covered someone tried to pinch it!!!
Superb presentation. Loved it. I wonder is there a snap on alarm that detects motion, so if they pick your machine up it deafens them. Just musing. Top video bloke.
I'm always amazed to see bikes left unsecured, it takes moments to lock it but can be stolen in less than 1 minute if it's not secured ! Even if you have a tracker fitted it should be treated as a last resort because thieves will often cause massive amounts of damage to a bike before you can locate it but a couple of locks can prevent that. There was a bike stolen recently from outside some flats which had been 'secured' to some railings with a long length of cheap chain from a DIY center, the sort of chain that cost about £5 per meter, his insurance company must have laughed when he told them ! The value of the bike was around £5K but he obviously thought that a good lock and chain was too expensive ! The more locks you use and the better the quality, the less likely your bike will be stolen ! I like the Bennetts website for a honest reviews and comparisons of bike security, you don't need to buy 2 or 3 of the highest quality chains and locks but you should buy the best quality you can afford !
Where was the clothing review ? Noted your new Helite vest : review coming from a well known channel soon ?? We love you really TMF - keep up the good work in these ( still ) difficult times.
I dont always do my fashion segment - mainly if I'm wearing something I think you may not have seen before....and yes, I've been using the Helite for about 6 months or so, bonus video coming on Saturday covering that.....
As you say layers are the way to go, the more likely it is for your bike to get stolen where you're parking the more you need and I only park in public places if I have to. Where you were I'd try and chain my bike to something like the street furniture to stop the thieves with a van just reversing up to your bike and manhandling it in in seconds, that way they have to defeat the chain first which is noisier and takes longer. I'd also put it in a busy place rather than out of the way too. As far as disc locks are concerned if you only have 1 put it on the rear disc as you can defeat one on the front very easily. I like that front brake lock more as a reminder to take the other stuff off before driving away as again they're not that hard to defeat but a useful extra layer in combo with other stuff. One of the reasons they don't like covers is they can't see what security you gave hidden away underneath and they don't like hanging around long while trying to steal your bike as it increases the chances if being caught. If there's other bikes nearby without any security park by them as they're more likely to be chosen by the thieves. It's a sad state of affairs but necessary in this day and age. Only problem is by the time you've put all that lot on the shops would have shut or you'd have wet yourself 😂
@@TheMissendenFlyer Good to hear it! I had a demo of one a few years back, it was a little undersized and when deployed gave me a bearhug that put me on the floor! Took 15 seconds to deflate. Sizing is very important.
I have a cloth tag that I put on via a ring on the Throttle...REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT, when I use a disc lock. I hear some horror stories on disc damage from just slight movement while lock is on. The best life saver for only $5.00 on Ebay.
@@TheMissendenFlyer You have no idea how many times it saved me. You think you will remember it is on, you just do not , LOL. Thanks and safe riding !!!
Great ideas. I have the disc lock, but will get the brake lock too now. "How to make your bike look unappealing," put a sign across the handle bars "COVID breading ground!" LoL
Disk lock alarms are a bit useless... One wet towel around them totally muffles the sound. I use Automatrics MTrack I think everyone should have a tracker with GPS and rfid at least you have a chance to recover your bike. Great video as always that light lock is interesting.
Here is some extra advice for anyone interested. When it comes to bike covers, if you can, buy as many different looking covers as you can afford. If you can buy a different one for each day of the week do so. In addition to this, park your bike in slightly different locations every night. My advice might not be suitable for touring, except if you stay in one place for a long time. Why multiple different covers? Because thieves usually stake out a bike or car over multiple days. If they see your bike being parked up and covered in the same spot every night, they can work out when is a good time to take it. However, you can throw them off by using different covers and parking in different locations. This is because they would be unsure the bike under the different cover is the one they are actually interested in.
Don't forget to remove the disc lock as you may break your mud guard, or worst.....ask me how I know! Used to sell a curly plastic wire attached to the disc lock and to the handle bars as a reminder!
Bike theft is much less, where I live, than in the UK. Same in Germany and Belgium. Only in the big cities in the west of NL, bike theft is more common but not at daylight. Alarms do not work here because almost nobody will pay attention. I normally use a disk lock. Only when I park the bike for a long time, I use a chain with lock, ART5, and I try to put the chain around something connected to the ground.
The lightlock and monimoto look great. I'm not convinced by the grip / brake lock though. I can't imagine cutting through a brake lever would be too difficult or noisy. I agree it would up the hassle and effort for a thief. Thanks again TMF.
Both the grip and disc lock are alarmed which kicks out a 120dB siren when tampered with. Don't think even the most determined thief would stick around with this going off!
Key thing to remember when using a disc lock is something to put on your handlebars to remember it is there. Don’t want to try to ride off with it attached!
Thanks for all your motorcycle security videos Mr. Flyer, they are great and always see them with big interest. Yours sincerely The Danish Viking 🇩🇰 ☀️ 😎
We toured Scotland 2 years ago (NC767) and my friend used a disk lock every day. We awoke in Tain (lovely place!) one morning, loaded up ready to go and he broke the key off in the lock........... Obviously we had an itinerary to stick to - the AA didn't want to know as we weren't "broken down" and it took us half a day to prop the bike up (in a hilly gravel car park) - remove the front wheel and carry it to a workshop about a mile away who kindly angle ground the lock off and then carry back and refit it. No idea what we would have done if two of our group weren't mechanically minded. Not a fun experience (although we look back and laugh) so my advice would be - buy good quality kit and if its getting old, think about replacing it before you go and get stuck hundreds of miles from anywhere....!! (I would never use a disk lock again!!)
I went to Aragon in 2013 for the Motogp. Never once locked the bike. And in France, I stopped at a hotel, and left the keys in the ignition. Yes she was still there in the morning, I was lucky.
Can I add some advice plz Andy? I am also testing the Litelok at the moment and I would recommend attaching it to the bike so it is not near the ground. I lock mine though my front fork and that way they can't get the leverage with the heavy duty bolt croppers. Watch the Bennetts Litelok review it will explain what I am trying to get at. You will also see some of my Litelok images on their social media feeds. Hope you don't mind me saying dude.
Just a thought on the griplock being black it’s pretty incognito, for a deterrent to work it needs to be a bit more obvious can you suggest they make them day glow yellow like the disk lock👍
My tip for motorcycle security on tour, take a mate with a more desirable bike.
Like your style Graham!
Brilliant
Funny, but that's hard when you own the best bike on the market - KTM :)
@@devonbiker Honda*
@@devonbiker yes. It's easier to find the thieves when they are stranded on the way 'cause the bike broke down.
You will need security on your wonderful collection 🏍 when Mrs Flyer passes her test 👍
@@Bob-_-Smith Where to the kitchen sink?
The list of solutions you provided to help reduce the risk of theft was well-explained, especially as you showed how they can be placed on your bike and how they function.
When allowed we tour lots and at night parked we do lock the bikes together. Our main strategy is carefully picking our accommodation. Hotels with secure (ideally underground parking in cities) and places in the country so far out the way that it's too much trouble for thieves.
Yes that’s basically my approach too....
@@oldfella4096 Completely agree, wife and I stopped at the Buccleuch Arms Moffat and they lock the rear yard at night and have individual parking garages, it's also a great hotel. Did a couple of vids recently on my channel where we stopped there.
My favourite tip is to use the disc lock on the back wheel - makes moving it around wheelbarrow style by lifting the bars more difficult. Also, along the same lines, jam it into a small space front-first
Good tip!
Mine goes on the rear as well. Don't put all the security on one wheel. Steering lock on the front, disc lock on the rear. If you want to steal it you better bring 2 dollys or a few large mates.
3:36 Did he come out of the ladies toilets?
😂
No he came inside.
Yes, 🤣
So glad you spotted that - took a risk in the name of humour....
@@TheMissendenFlyer a visual demonstration of being caught in the act
I watched TMF's Monimoto video and then immediately purchased one. I would certainly recommend one of these brilliant devices. Well worth it and so easy to use. Its already saved my bike. Another great video Andy. Thanks mate :)
That's great to hear Craig - I certainly think they offer great value along with a degree of peace of mind....
Those airbag vests are very good, saved my pals life in a nasty crash just recently.
Ahh right I was wondering what he was wearing, thought it was a polite vest 🤦♂️😅😅
Video coming on airbags soon!
@@TheMissendenFlyer great I look forward to that, I have a helite vest in black, problem is I never seem to wear it! Maybe I should...
I had the exact airbag jacket as worn in this video when they first came on to the market, I could get on with it, to big, bulky & weight my shoulders down
Love your reviews and advice on all things biking 😎👍 I just can’t get the picture of the comedian Harry Hill out of my head when watching 🤣😂 Keep making great content buddy 👍
Loving the outtakes Andy. Have a great day 👋
Cheers - you too!
Very informative video!
Love and respect from India🇮🇳❤️
Thank you very much....
Attach your bike to something immovable like a lamppost. That way it's more difficult to just pick up and put in the back of a Transit...
Yeah I should have mentioned that of course - thanks for the reminder....
Yup. All of that lot won't help if they turn up with four blokes, two scaffolding poles and a van. The bike's in the van and gone in 30 seconds.
Great video, useful advice, many layers of security, and confuse the thieves by switching gender…got it!
Absolutely!
One of your best videos yet. Nice pace, to the point and really really helpful. Big thanks. Jezz
Glad it was helpful!
Just ordered one of the litelok using your discount code thank you much appreciated. Keep up the videos really enjoy watching them.
Great video and I love it when you put in your bloopers.
😊 thank you
Thanks for some good security tips. Ryan at FortNine also did a torture test of several locks. (Surprisingly, bike theft is more than twice as likely in the UK as here in the lawless US of A.)
Who would have thought! Maybe it's a religion thing.....
The grip devise that holds the brake in is brilliant.
Instill someone with a Sharp knive cuts the break line!!
Hence more than one device!
You are totally rocking that day-glo, polite notice look 😁
Thank you - just to be clear it's actually quite a fancy airbag vest and back protector rather than a polite vest...
I think the layering of different alarms is one of the important factors because no one cares about a single alarm but when different alarms are triggering at the same time people do check about their car and that put some heat on the thieves. I live in south america, my bike, the disklock, the chain, and even my case has alarm (coocase luxury, check it), I'm only missing that brakes grip thingy, but when someone touches the bike and all the alarms trigger its a freaking carnival and everybody turns to look. Here fancy covers don't work, they steal the cover. It only works if its a discreet security cover with grommets so you can pass your chain through it. Yeah, 3rd world.
I loop my chain or cable through the centre of the shaft-drive as well as through the spokes. That way, it's locked through the chassis and the wheel.
Andy cheers for this vid like the quick format and the products yer using good ideas to have some idea on pricing as good few of them of interest to me cheers
Yes I should have mentioned that John....deets via the links of course....
Use a 'pull pin' type personal panic alarm on your bike cover connected to the lower section of the cover. If the cover is pulled / lower section separated, it sets off the panic alarm.
Very interesting Andy....thanks for that! The grip lock looks a very interesting concept.
Yes it’s a neat idea and nice and compact to carry - as convenient as a disk lock and provides another layer of deterrent....plus you can’t ride off with it in place....
Good ideas, thank you!
I was just watching this video for the first time and noticed that bent front wheel...which reminded me of a large pothole I fell into recently...
Yes well spotted - that was caused by a pot hole, very annoying.....
Thanks MTF after saving money on buying the Lite lock ,I have just saved some more money on the Zovii Hand Brake Lock .This Hand Brake Lock is a cracking piece of kit ,it so light and is great for just sticking in your pocket and just perfect for locking your bike up even on a day trip .I can recommend them both . Keep it up TMF I am buying some great kit and saving shed loads of money
Crikey - glad I could help!
Love that lite lock iv just ordered myself one. Cheers for the discount.
My pleasure!
Great vignette thank you. It feels like ages since I've seen you out on your GS! Looking forward to seeing you do some more tours next year.
Me too Steven!
"How to make your bike look as unattractive to a potential thief as possible". Easy. I own a Burgman.
The Burgman is one of the bikes that are regularly stolen, thieves love them !
Or a GS.
Oi!
Funny I bought one this summer and love it
@@opichocal I love mine too! An old 650. Hugely practical, but not altogether desirable and would be a bitch to try and pick up.
All very good points of theft protection. Will look into 1 or 2 of your recommendations. 👍🏼
Good to hear from you again Bradley!
Always got your back, I watch all the videos. Sometimes I can’t say anything better than You do. 👍🏼
Nice to see you out on the GS.
Yes still a cracking bike - I wish I had more time to ride my own machines!
Bike thieves generally lift and load into vans, so alarmed deterrents are the best if you can't physically chain the bike to an immovable object. The Zovii ones look good as they make loading difficult as well. Oh, and don't forget your good ol' steering lock to make things awkward too! :)
Yes I think using the steering lock is definitely worth doing but on their own they're pretty easy to defeat apparently so I certainly wouldn't just rely on that...should have mentioned it though, thanks for the reminder!
Great advice & well explained......great news to keep the bike thief off your bike.....stay safe.....thanks for sharing
Good to see you wearing your Helite vest!
Always!
It’s definitely good to see you in a helite air vest it’s definitely a bit of motorcycle safety kit that’s worth adding to your personal protection kit ,😎☝️👌 I had my first one in 2016 it saved my life in 2018 with a 50 mph impact to my back , I’m now wearing the new e- turtle and that definitely takes it up a level, another good vid keep up the good work have a merry Xmas 👌🇬🇧👌
Thanks BB and to you - and yes one of the things I like about the Helite Turtle I have is the brilliant back protector....video coming on that soon....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I look forward to seeing that 😎☝️ I did a review on the e-turtle this year it was my first one ☝️ made me realise RUclips is definitely not easy and showed how good you RUclips stars ✨ are lol but I’ve enjoyed what I’ve done this year it’s kept me sane ,
Morning TMF! GS is looking good. Not seen her for a while. I use Kryptonite products when I travel and move around. A disc lock/alarm plus a hefty looking padlock (which you can combine with a chain) on the front and a D-bolt on the rear. All packs away easily in the topcase. The advantage of an alarm is that even if someone tries to break into the topcase, the vibrations transfer to the wheel and set the alarm off.
Yes all sounds good to me Simon - thanks for watching and for stopping by....
Great video! Thank you for sharing! Keep these great videos coming!
I will if you keep watching them!
On my brand new motorcycle i have a cover, anchor and chain, disc lock and the monimoto device. I have to say after applying the layering principle you suggested, i sleep much better at night! Not even a crew of thiefs can steal my bike now 😁
'Multi layering' the security is a great idea, also i used long cable locks for wrapping around soft luggage when touring.
Thanks TMF. Great job. Good info.
Cheers!
Great info Mr.Fly, great security- especially helps on bigger bikes. Out and about on my old Ducati, it’s never out of sight. Too many bike ‘crooks’ as you say 😆. Well put.
That grip lock is a great idea , disk locks not 4 me too easy to ride off with it still on the disk ....yes i have ....lol .
Use the oxford big alarmed pad lock thro the rear sproket with bright lanyard over the bike tied to front brake and twist grip , its only a hi vis 6mm tent line but looks like some sort ov special thing tied across the bike ...
Good info Andy, ride safe.
Thanks, you too!
Nice helpful vid with some very sound principles. Locking it to something solid, if possible, is a good tip too for those buggers that just lift the bike up security devices & all & put it in the back of a van!
Great tip - I should have mentioned that!
I’m pleased to see you don’t get it right on the first take! I feel encouraged! 🤣
6 minutes of my working day spent watching this video. Not sending an invoice though, it was more interesting than working ;)
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching....
Hi TMF .....Hi Viz? is that new for you also, not sure I have seen you in that before, welcome to the club! great tips on security by the way all my stuff is too heavy.
Well I wear it more for the airbag and back protector it houses - but the hi viz does no harm (especially this time of year).....
Safety vest looks good ,just purchased merlin matched airbag n jacket only back protection
Yes, video on airbags coming soon!
@@TheMissendenFlyer excellent can't wait to see your views and recommendations. check out moto vibes channel for his choice of airbag
Nice Helite Jacket. Don't forget that they are now nicking the TFT units off BMW's, but there is a bracket you can get for that from NN.
Whts a TFT unit?
@@shrory The digital screen
Carry On At Your Convenience
Deffo agree with the layering method. Even multiple cheap devices better than one super duty chain..... oh and ladies toilet??? Lol 😂
Agreed all round - and so glad you spotted my little joke, took a risk for you there in the name of subtle humour ;0)
My bikes an old hack and I don't have a top box so I buy relatively cheap, very lightweight security but layer up. I use a disc lock on the rear sprocket, an alarmed disc lock on the front and always try to cable lock my bike to a post or another bike. Trying to secure to something immovable helps stop it just being thrown into a van.
All good advice....
Last tour I parked my bike directly outside the tent with my Almax chain and squire sc65 lock on, as well as abus disclocks front and rear, and the alarm on. I did contemplate taking the cover but I thought it would be a bit excessive. 😂
I have learned that the less you care if the bike gets stolen, the lower the risk of it getting stolen. ;-)
Fair point!
Some good security products Mr TMF
Good video helpful content thanks. I haven't got a bike yet but intend to get a ninja 300 this year and I always wondered about bike security when out and about. I think I'll find it difficult at first to relax but I guess as time goes on with no incidents it'll become the norm.
Yes like all these new skills you'll learn to relax in time.....you do need to pay attention on a bike though (obv)....
Far out mate, glad I live Down Under if its that bad in the UK!
Yup. If it's not nailed down it's fair game unfortunately.
I live near London and have had one bike stolen in 48 years. I just use one reasonable lock but try to park in a 'safe' location and out of sight when at home. I've known friends have their bikes stolen when on holiday in Europe, take your security with you.
When I rode sport bikes thieves would use lumber to slide through your wheels and 4 guys could easily lift the bike and load into a stolen moving truck. I always put mine inside my apartment or in a locked garage. Thieves suck!
The longer or the more often a bike is left at a specific location the higher the risk of it getting stolen but you can't take your locked garage with you wherever you go. In high risk areas you need to use higher quality locks and chains and secure the bike to something solid, the more layers of security the better.
People often spend £10K on a bike or more and expect to be able to secure it by spending less than £100 on security, it doesn't make sense !
Once again thank you for the info 👍
Any time!
Noce to see the old boy out for a ride, not you Mr Flyer.... the real star the GS, the soundtrack of your formative years.
I do like the handlebar lock, disc lock and Monimoto, the bar lock as a quick fit and the disc lock as an audible deterrent, and should it all go wrong, the tracker to locate.
Had to reduce the contrast on the screen as your vest is a little loud!
Cracking informative vid !
Thank you Doc - and yes that airbag jacket doubles as a cracking hi vis vest (and excellent back protector!)....
Really useful vid. Thanks very much.
Glad it was helpful!
WARNING. One of our Ulysses club members has been using a disc lock on his back wheel for years.
He came out of a club meeting a couple of months ago, actually mentioned to the guy he was talking to that he had to remove his disk lock. He kept the conversation going and obviously got distracted.
He jumped on his bike (a very nice one) and down he went with massive damage to the rear end.of his bike and injury to himself.
He does not expect to get his bike back from repair until next January or February, parts the hold up.
Insurance assessor told him that it happens all the time, and he would have been better off to have had his bike stolen.
If you are going to use one of these devices, get one that makes it impossible to start your bike until the device is removed.
I use one of those flexible yellow cables on the handlebars to remind me - I should have mentioned that....
Never thought of that. Good point.
Andy great video mate 👍
Thank you Tom!
Really useful info Andy. Thanks as ever. Yours aye, Alan
Hi ! Flyer.......When i use a cover , i use one with the eyelets so one can lock the cover through the front wheel with a bicycle lock
also a disc lock on then turn the wheel so the disc lock hides itself partially then add a second disc lock. Cheers, EBC
Great tip!
Lovely video, think I'll get a couple of those Zovii bits of kit (already bought the Litelok last year with one of your magic codes). Can't agree with the covers thing enough - ridden into and out of London for the last five years on a multitude of bikes and the only time it wasn't covered someone tried to pinch it!!!
Yes despite my made up statistic the Police very much recommend them as a deterrent....
Look at the flyer going all high vis, looks good on yah
Well it’s mostly an airbag and back protector....but I guess the hi vis can’t do any harm....
Superb presentation. Loved it. I wonder is there a snap on alarm that detects motion, so if they pick your machine up it deafens them. Just musing. Top video bloke.
Thanks Kent - sounds like you might be on to something....quick patent that idea!
I'm always amazed to see bikes left unsecured, it takes moments to lock it but can be stolen in less than 1 minute if it's not secured !
Even if you have a tracker fitted it should be treated as a last resort because thieves will often cause massive amounts of damage to a bike before you can locate it but a couple of locks can prevent that.
There was a bike stolen recently from outside some flats which had been 'secured' to some railings with a long length of cheap chain from a DIY center, the sort of chain that cost about £5 per meter, his insurance company must have laughed when he told them ! The value of the bike was around £5K but he obviously thought that a good lock and chain was too expensive !
The more locks you use and the better the quality, the less likely your bike will be stolen !
I like the Bennetts website for a honest reviews and comparisons of bike security, you don't need to buy 2 or 3 of the highest quality chains and locks but you should buy the best quality you can afford !
Yes agreed all round Ian - including the Bennetts reviews that John does, I like that he can do them to destruction...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Good security is a wise investment and will last for many years !
Being Canadian, I park with keys in it! LOL
Where was the clothing review ? Noted your new Helite vest : review coming from a well known channel soon ??
We love you really TMF - keep up the good work in these ( still ) difficult times.
I dont always do my fashion segment - mainly if I'm wearing something I think you may not have seen before....and yes, I've been using the Helite for about 6 months or so, bonus video coming on Saturday covering that.....
As you say layers are the way to go, the more likely it is for your bike to get stolen where you're parking the more you need and I only park in public places if I have to. Where you were I'd try and chain my bike to something like the street furniture to stop the thieves with a van just reversing up to your bike and manhandling it in in seconds, that way they have to defeat the chain first which is noisier and takes longer. I'd also put it in a busy place rather than out of the way too. As far as disc locks are concerned if you only have 1 put it on the rear disc as you can defeat one on the front very easily. I like that front brake lock more as a reminder to take the other stuff off before driving away as again they're not that hard to defeat but a useful extra layer in combo with other stuff. One of the reasons they don't like covers is they can't see what security you gave hidden away underneath and they don't like hanging around long while trying to steal your bike as it increases the chances if being caught. If there's other bikes nearby without any security park by them as they're more likely to be chosen by the thieves. It's a sad state of affairs but necessary in this day and age. Only problem is by the time you've put all that lot on the shops would have shut or you'd have wet yourself 😂
All good advice - cheers!
Disc lock back and front and kill switch hidden
Cheers Andy very informative video, the ladies loos must be heated this time of the year?
All the best terry 🙄👍🏍
Well spotted Terry.....
Nice informative vid! I see you have invested in an air vest? What are your thoughts so far?
Well Ive be been using it for about 6 months, luckily I’ve not tested it!! Video coming soon!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Good to hear it! I had a demo of one a few years back, it was a little undersized and when deployed gave me a bearhug that put me on the floor! Took 15 seconds to deflate. Sizing is very important.
I have a cloth tag that I put on via a ring on the Throttle...REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT, when I use a disc lock. I hear some horror stories on disc damage from just slight movement while lock is on. The best life saver for only $5.00 on Ebay.
Yes great tip....I do something similar and should have mentioned it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer You have no idea how many times it saved me. You think you will remember it is on, you just do not , LOL. Thanks and safe riding !!!
“A completely made up statistic” - how is the commute to Downing Street these days?
Great ideas. I have the disc lock, but will get the brake lock too now. "How to make your bike look unappealing," put a sign across the handle bars "COVID breading ground!" LoL
Disk lock alarms are a bit useless... One wet towel around them totally muffles the sound.
I use Automatrics MTrack I think everyone should have a tracker with GPS and rfid at least you have a chance to recover your bike.
Great video as always that light lock is interesting.
Part of the conversion I am working on is turning the centre of the frame into a storage space so that I can put my chains and disk locks in there.
Cool!
I use a Helite Turtle 2 airvest. I got the orange version, nice piece of kit :)
It is indeed.....
Here is some extra advice for anyone interested. When it comes to bike covers, if you can, buy as many different looking covers as you can afford. If you can buy a different one for each day of the week do so. In addition to this, park your bike in slightly different locations every night. My advice might not be suitable for touring, except if you stay in one place for a long time. Why multiple different covers? Because thieves usually stake out a bike or car over multiple days. If they see your bike being parked up and covered in the same spot every night, they can work out when is a good time to take it. However, you can throw them off by using different covers and parking in different locations. This is because they would be unsure the bike under the different cover is the one they are actually interested in.
Good advice!
Good tips TMF
Don't forget to remove the disc lock as you may break your mud guard, or worst.....ask me how I know!
Used to sell a curly plastic wire attached to the disc lock and to the handle bars as a reminder!
Yes I use those too....
Great points!
Bike theft is much less, where I live, than in the UK. Same in Germany and Belgium. Only in the big cities in the west of NL, bike theft is more common but not at daylight.
Alarms do not work here because almost nobody will pay attention.
I normally use a disk lock. Only when I park the bike for a long time, I use a chain with lock, ART5, and I try to put the chain around something connected to the ground.
The lightlock and monimoto look great. I'm not convinced by the grip / brake lock though. I can't imagine cutting through a brake lever would be too difficult or noisy. I agree it would up the hassle and effort for a thief. Thanks again TMF.
It’s just another layer of deterrent - as I said, if you have a pro/determined thief they’ll get through anything....
Both the grip and disc lock are alarmed which kicks out a 120dB siren when tampered with. Don't think even the most determined thief would stick around with this going off!
@@engineeredbyzicam Ah, didn't realise it also had an alarm in the grip lock. Cheers.
Key thing to remember when using a disc lock is something to put on your handlebars to remember it is there. Don’t want to try to ride off with it attached!
We’ve all done it!
Good advice there 🔥⚙️🔧
Thank you....
Hi, thanks for the video.
Can you tell me what type of exhaust have you got on your bike, please? I really like its sound.
Thank you
It’s a standard one!
Thanks for all your motorcycle security videos Mr. Flyer, they are great and always see them with big interest.
Yours sincerely
The Danish Viking 🇩🇰 ☀️ 😎
Thanks for watching once again DV!
TMF - How to secure your bike whilst you go cottaging??? 😂😂😂To the shops eh? Sorry, couldn't resist at 3:35
Rumbled!
Great review Andy. Do you realise you used the ladies toilet🤣
......I'm so glad you spotted that, I though that was hilarious!
Amazing video
Glad you think so!
Very good. I've only ever had 2 Kryptonite D Locks, so far so good, touch wood.😁
Should keep Superman at bay at least!
We toured Scotland 2 years ago (NC767) and my friend used a disk lock every day. We awoke in Tain (lovely place!) one morning, loaded up ready to go and he broke the key off in the lock........... Obviously we had an itinerary to stick to - the AA didn't want to know as we weren't "broken down" and it took us half a day to prop the bike up (in a hilly gravel car park) - remove the front wheel and carry it to a workshop about a mile away who kindly angle ground the lock off and then carry back and refit it. No idea what we would have done if two of our group weren't mechanically minded. Not a fun experience (although we look back and laugh) so my advice would be - buy good quality kit and if its getting old, think about replacing it before you go and get stuck hundreds of miles from anywhere....!! (I would never use a disk lock again!!)
I can understand your reluctance! Yes - not buying a cheapo one is a good call.....
I went to Aragon in 2013 for the Motogp. Never once locked the bike. And in France, I stopped at a hotel, and left the keys in the ignition. Yes she was still there in the morning, I was lucky.
Yes I think you were!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I do like that grip alarm. That makes a lot of sense
Can I add some advice plz Andy? I am also testing the Litelok at the moment and I would recommend attaching it to the bike so it is not near the ground. I lock mine though my front fork and that way they can't get the leverage with the heavy duty bolt croppers. Watch the Bennetts Litelok review it will explain what I am trying to get at. You will also see some of my Litelok images on their social media feeds. Hope you don't mind me saying dude.
No problem Matt - in fact I think that Bennetts video is excellent....John Millbank knows his security onions....
Just a thought on the griplock being black it’s pretty incognito, for a deterrent to work it needs to be a bit more obvious can you suggest they make them day glow yellow like the disk lock👍
Yes good point!
@@TheMissendenFlyer seems my comment took RUclips GB down for about half an hour lol
On a side note- just got a GoPro 9- what are you using to fix it to the windshield? Is it a Hero 8 on your helmet? Keep up the great vids🏍
Just a suction mount - and yes 8 with media mod on the helmet....
I thought this is why you're getting Mrs Flyer to ride...so you can leave her standing guard while you and the lads have a few beers???