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THIS video is saving lives. i am 80 yr old and still riding a gsxr 600 i feel so concerned for new riders who know nothing about counter steering they pass test get a faster bike and no one has told them how to get it round a bend you see it all the time on you tube riders with great bikes the best gear running out of road for the sake of a few words of advise WELL YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB OF DOING JUST THAT, I WISH EVERY NEW RIDER COULD WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANKS
It's easy to miss how well this gentleman presented the material. Articulate and to the point. I enjoyed how this was done in such a manner as to be easily understood and not overwhelming. Kudos!
And not spending 5 minutes telling us about his great-grand-aunt cooking techniques and his last trip to 7-Eleven. Always nice to have videos getting straight to the matter and not milking that ad money.
10:16 - 10:32 - Slower is smoother, safer, & FASTER - Great piece, great line. There are no videos I watch faster than you and RyanF9. Your videos are so well planned out and concise, you don't waste a second!
It was so relatable when you say look ahead for 10-15 sec ahead.. I'm a motorcyclist with 9 years of experience and it totally translate into roads... Amateurs just pull the throttle and brake...with experience you'll learn how to maintain the speed rather than doing bursts and brakes. You go alot more faster and safer this way
I never knew that I was doing this in the back of my mind. The only reason why I don't push myself to lower angels of attack is that I don't wanna be the a hole who causes problems on the road. Now I appreciate dad's instructions even though I never understood them. Shout-out to all the amazing Dad's out there. ❤
“Staying ahead of the bike” is a term I have used for years. My favorite advice was something Al Unser Jr during said in an interview during qualifying for the Indy 500 in the early 90’s. A TV interviewer asked what it’s like going 240MPH. Al replied, “Well, ya gotta look wayyyy down the track...” Good video.
All the key points mentioned here should be incorporated into every single motorcycle license exam. When I got my licence 30 years ago, there wasn’t a single requirement for demonstrating command of essential skills beyond stopping. Turning riders lose on public roads without understanding these life saving skills is crazy to me. Running wide in corner can get you killed if you meet a car while doing it.
Fantastic content! Thank you! I'll never forgot a couple of pieces of advice on cornering I received many years ago and your video brings them to mind. "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast" and "in like a lamb, out like a lion" :D "Staying ahead of the motorcycle" is great advice as well! Safe rides
As a new rider that helped me a lot. My fear was always the cornering. You did excellent job with this video. Thank you guys. I wish you the best and keep safe driving.
I’m a believer that at age 68 dirt and street with 55 years of real riding. I always have more to learn. Motorcyclist always must stay educated and willing to learn from years of experience and to learn from the new rider. Great video. This video alone will save lives. You may never hear about it but it will.
Nearly rode a 50cc into a corner yesterday while out for my first drive ever. Suffice to say, I backed off on a 690cc I was eyeing and got a 125cc. Slow and smooth.. I'll get there.
And don’t make the mistake of getting a 690 as your next bike. Go up in stages, I just got a Duke 390 and it’s perfect for a city commute and does 120kmh / 80 mph all day long. And you still get to ring the nuts out of it. Get a 690 when your in Germany and don’t have speed limits, otherwise they are just a ticket collector. I much prefer to smash thru the gears, rather than pottering around in 3rd all day.
@@shaneparfitt77 I was ready to drop the hammer on a new R3...after reading the reviews and my own sensibility...got the R15...couldn't be happier. Riding a slower bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow...and trying to stay alive. A 125cc is way plenty to become a safe confident rider, develop your skills and enjoy riding..BTW: most motoGP riders practice and stay in shape with a mountain bike!
@@LiloUkulele nice choice with the single thumper. But I went for the naked KTM duke. I need to be upright looking around. I have a 25 km suburb to city commute, to and from work every day, car trip 1hr 20mim. bike trip 25m because we can legally lane filter here. I need to be upright and throwing it around like a dirt bike, weaving the shit out of it. Plus I’m an almost 60 yo grandfather, my days of sports bikes are over. My back, shoulders, and arms can’t take that shit anymore. I much prefer being comfortable and up high with a view.
Former Harley (Electra Glide Classic) rider here: GREAT VIDEO! I also used to teach Time Trials - weekend warriors who took their daily driver on the track thinking that they were Kowalski (Vanishing Point) or Steve McQueen. It was fun, but the one thing I drilled into their heads was DON'T LOOK AT YOUR HOOD! Look to where the track disappears, and that way, the lap will seem slow, and you'll be ready for what ever happens between you and where you want to be. When the lap seems fast, you're not looking far enough ahead. Oh, and if you have an off-track excursion, DON'T LOOK AT THE TREE! Look where you want to be; your brain and butt will figure out the muscle movements to get you there!
This video not only covers counter-steering it has other safety basics and best practices for safe rewarding biking experience. CanyonChasers - the best bike academy on RUclips!
I’ve been riding motorcycles since 1991 when I bought a 400cc Suzuki Bandit with no previous experience at all. I wished I had had at that time a RUclips channel like this one that shows the ropes of how to enjoy riding safely and not to get killed in the attempt. Greetings from Cádiz (Spain).
Excellent video! I've been riding for almost 30 years and I'm still surprised how many riders don't know how to counter-steer. I would like to comment on one thing: "Continue to accellerate through the turn" is just bad wording in the old manuals. They didn't mean to imply you should be speeding up throughout the turn. The intent of that statement was to say you shouldn't coast through a turn. You should always have some throttle applied. The way it was written is bad advice if taken literally, but if the message is taken as intended, it's correct. You should not let off the throttle completely during a turn or a curve. If you have to suddenly accellerate for some reason, it's safer to do so with power already applied. Suddenly accellerating when you are coasting and leaning can cause the back tire to lose traction and cause a crash.
Thank you for clearing that up! I just finished my MSF course and was taught to hold steady throttle through the turn and then I thought it was wrong. haha
My 2016 Kymco Downtown 300i will go wide if I increase throttle in a curve and will tighten up and increase turn radius if I reduce throttle so I think that’s good advice. I’m getting a 2002 Harley Heritage soft tail next week and I bet it will do the same thing.
those 337 dislikes are idiots... this is the most comprehensive, complete, and easy-to-understand tutorial I have ever watched on TY. Thank you and you have great content on this video.
I was taught to drive a standard transmission car. A basic example is to drive in 3rd gear, then downshift into 2nd below going into the turn, then going back into 3rd after exiting the turn. This was on residential, but it can be applied to other gears depending on whether you're on the highway or residential driving. I find it works pretty good when cornering on a motorcycle.
This is such a great video! I crashed a few weeks ago because I entered the bend too fast, fixated on a target, found gravel on the bend when it was too late, and then crashed into the guardrail. I can picture every second of that crash, and this video just taught me a billion things I did wrong. Will never make the same mistakes on my new bike again. Subscribe earned. Thank you so much!
I'm so glad that you're ok. Having a run-in (no pun intended) with a guard rail is usually a death sentence for a rider, or very, very bad at best. I lived in southern Kalifornia for about 13 years right at the bottom of the mountains, and it always pained me to read of the death of riders on those twisty mountain roads. A VAST majority of those deaths were crotch rocket pilots with more testosterone than brains, and they paid the ultimate price. You'll NEVER go wrong watching Dave's videos here!! He is simply the best teacher on the Internet for riding skills. I'm glad you survived and I KNOW you'll be a better rider after having watched Dave as long as you put what he tells us into practice! Ride safe and live to ride another day!
A dear friend of mine who has done Boston marathon in under three hours told me one day when we were training “slow is smooth and smooth is fast“ and I couldn’t figure it out for a while and then it clicked. Thanks JP!
All very interesting..... My (ancient) history on motorcycles was on Italian stuff from the 70s and 90s. I still recall being amazed that newer bikes had a brake-light switch for the front brake. Most bikes I'd ridden had one only for the rear. Anyway.... All this seems like good advice. Nice video.
As a new motorcycle rider (but 20 years of biking), this is both common sense and very informative. I've found that applying some of my biking habits to my motorcycling habits helped a lot in reducing stress while on the road. Your content is a real trove and every video I watch makes me want to go out and try your tips !
I did the bikesafe course in the UK, they teach us to follow IPSGA which is basically the same as you've put across here. Information - What can you see? Roadsigns, Lines, Other road users, Parking areas, Turn offs etc etc Position - Left turn, Move to the right of the lane before the corner, Right turn, move to the left Speed - achieve your corner entry speed Gear - choose the gear for the corner Acceleration - Accelerate out of the corner. Works for me, and all the other bikesafe students I know
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. One of the best lessons I ever learned in my life (wasn't even related to riding, but it's applicable in so many situations)
This point of interring the corner wide has been the best advice for me in over 40 years of riding, I’m safer now than I’ve ever been and also enjoying riding more than ever with this new found confidence from your tutelage..... thanks. Looking forward to a favourite ride later today even more after watching this. Keep it up! 🙏
As the motorcycle season in Europe begins , this was a wonderful mental refresher for seasoned riders as well as beginners. Thank you for such great tutorials.....it may save a life! God bless and safe riding...
@@bartholomewlyons by riding around you are not spreading it. You can only spread or get the virus if you come in contact with other people. Almost all of the social places (aka restaurants, night clubs, gyms, etc) aren't allowed to be open anyway. At least that is what the Netherlands (my country) is doing right now. So go ride if you are well enough. Just don't go giving people high fives and just keep your distance.
I took a 30 year break from riding to raise 4 kids. I'm subscribing because I need to refresh my skills. This is common sense training. I worked my way up from a RD 350 Yamaha to an XS 1100. I now have a GL 1500. The same rules apply to all bikes.
Bartholomew Lyons Your opinion has been over-hauled; riding doesnˋt spread the Virus and Europe as dirtiest continent (not nice word usage, dirty has nothing to do with it) will be unfortunately outdone by the USA , especially my home town ny. The police in europe are not stopping motorcyclist; except in bavaria, they just don’t want them to congregate. Everyone here has been very disciplined staying at home and keeping their distance. We are taking this very seriously !
In the motorcycle class I took (in 1993), they said, "the definition of a good motorcycle rider is someone who knows his limits and rides within them". That's the best motorcycle advice I've ever heard.
I do believe that the MSF course instructors are changing how they word things. You mentioned accelerating throughout the corner. What I heard was to accelerate “or” maintain throttle. I believe trail breaking is an advanced skill but all riders should learn how to do it. It has saved me from running wide more than once. I’m always working on entry speed and smoother corners. I like your rule about accelerating coming out of the corner being a measurement for a good corner. Great video 👍🏻
touristguy87 Maybe I didn’t word things correctly? I think you miss understood what I was trying to say? Yes, like every single rider out there I have struggled with entry speed, ect. Speaking from experience. It was a learning curve for me to learn trail breaking. I always work on Self-Improvement. When I have something to say that would benefit a new rider I post my personal experience. I didn’t want a new rider to think trail breaking would be easy to learn. Break and clutch control are both hard to master. I have been riding for 41 years.
I often hear people say trail-braking is an "advanced" or "race track only" skill. I think that's 100% false because as car drivers EVERYONE instinctively trail-brakes all the time. Just watch for brake lights on freeway off ramps. Even grandma keeps brake pressure on well passed the turn-in point!! The only difference between driving & riding is that in general motorcycle controls (throttle, brakes, turning) are harder to master smoothness with & you're more likely to upset the chassis balance with an aggressive input.
Very well said. In slowing before the corner, consider downshifting before the corner if you think you will need to. It’s less busy than trying to downshift during the turn and it will give you plenty of torque to accelerate coming out. Never go into a turn until you know what’s coming. Much heartbreak results otherwise.
Just bought my first bike I’ve been nervous about taking it out but I’m half way through this video and I must say watching this is giving me the confidence I need thank you a bunch
I discovered motorcycles 4 years ago, but RUclips much more recently. I have put about 40K on my bike before ever hearing any tips or instruction from anyone. A lot of what I am hearing I realize I am already doing. But not the moving my head. I think I have always known to look where I want the bike to go, but will definitely move my head more. And yeah… enter slow, see the exit, and accelerate towards the light!! Thank you!! Fantastic video!, 👍👍
I watched this before embarking on a mountainous trip with my experienced friends... Sufficient to say it helped me a lot and gave me huge moral boost to safely bike while enjoying good rides.. Subscribed the channel.. Thanks guys.
Absolutely loved the video! A year ago i fractured my ankle whilst on a off-road bike training, took me a year to get back on the bike; just fear of hurting myself again. I was very afraid of corners especially. I then get new riders telling me how i don't lean enough and enjoy the corner as i should. I'll practice more with what i have seen in this video.
Yeah, man! Remember, the best riders reduce lean angle as much as they can. A street rider with no "chicken strips" scares me. Strive for proficiency, not speed. Ride your ride.
Indeed ! Thanks a ton for making me a smarter rider. In fact i applied the techniques u mentioned in earlier vids that really worked ! .. when ever i sat on my bike allowing to warm up my engine , your advice popups in my head , that really gives me super confidents to move on. I can't thank enough. ..
It's maybe weird how the RUclips algorithm dictates views, but I just saw this video after I watched the other videos on cornering and on trail braking.....and I gotta say, it's amazing how well articulated the advice is. I'm not looking to be a racer or anything but I want to be able to not get stuck in a position of "oh shit" on any turn I need to make on the street, and this channel is without a doubt helping me do that. Dave has a way of really laying down the concepts in words that hold meaning when re-imagined in the viewers' minds
"We have met the enemy and they are OURS", is Perry's quote. "US" is from a 1960's Anti-Vietnam cartoon strip... how I know this I do not know! Great videos and as always very informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
I know. I tried several times but could never make it through "They are ours" without messing up - So I changed last minute to "us" thinking nobody will notice - clearly all y'all canyonchasers are an informed bunch!
Navy vet, poor cornerer and office nerd, here. I caught that too and I almost commented lol. I use the twisted version alot at work because it does a good job capturing the hopelessness of business improvement :-(
Knowing a subject isn't the same as being able to teach it. This video is so good because he's not only knowledgeable, but he understands what it's like not to know what the topic he's presenting. Great teacher.
4.12 the most important advice by far. So many riders do not realise how they actually drive around corners. Its simple physics. I often show this to people by letting them hold a spinning bicycle wheel by the axels and asking them to tilt the wheel and feel what happens - really surprises people a lot!
Great video. Love that you didn't feel the need to bang on at length about Counter Steering, so many motorcycle cornering videos fixate on Counter Steering like it is some mystic art/magic, when in reality it is just something every motorcyclist is already doing when going round a corner.
If anything, I think countersteering has been sold as the one perfect solution to every problem. Its not at all. It may even increase risk in some situations. If you are slowing into corners, you barely even need it.
Great video! Admittedly the hardest thing for me to overcome is not looking far ahead enough. I think it was motojitsu that uses the term "big head turn" in his cornering videos. When I remind myself to do that, it makes a huge difference (still a work in progress and I've been riding since the mid 80s).
These videos are great. I've been taking their advice to heart for some time now, and in regular traffic I feel like I've gained quite a significant amount of extra safety margin, control and got more relaxed as a rider. (And also got a hell of a lot quicker if the situations allows for it). Good job guys.
This clip is very helpful, I have been out of the motorcycle game for 20+ years and am getting back into it. Seeing clips like this helps the knowledge return.
Great video and a great reminder for all levels of riders. I find I am in that risky category of becoming very comfortable riding. I should be evaluating my level each time I ride and try not to get too comfy.
Many thanks for the informative video. Used to be a biker some 30 years ago, and now when the kids are grown ups and all that, I decided to buy a bike again. Ended up with a Kawa 900 GPSr, witch is kind of a monster bike to me, allthough its more than 30 years old now. Thanks to your lesson here I suddenly feel much more confident as a "born again motorcycle rider". Again, many thanks!
Thanks for the sharing the nuances of this topic. I feel like I do these things already, but just coming back to riding after some years, I'd forgotten some of the points, like thinking more than two seconds ahead and taking the corners wide.. Slower is faster and more satisfying, especially when it comes to the 'coming home in the same condition I started the ride' part.
Excellent video!!! I have been riding for about 26 years and for the most part, I've always been...scared of cornering! I do like to ride within my limits but have always wanted to get faster in the curves as well, just been too scared. I have a good friend in TX that I was riding with and he's a MUCH better rider than me! I could NEVER keep up with him in the curves. To be honest, I was always very nervous riding with him beCAUSE he was so good! Every once in a while he'd wave me by and into a curve first, usually when we have the cameras rolling! Lol. Which was most of the time, and of course...that made me even MORE nervous! Lol. One day I got new tires and believe it or not, I found myself not only keeping UP with him in the SAME curves but...there were a few times there, he was actually in my way as we were exiting the curve. I didn't know what to make of it, and just figured he was going slower for me. The next time we stopped...he said to me, "whatever those tires are doing for you, keep it up!". I really didn't know what he was talking about. I finally asked him and he said that when he would go through the curves first then slow up for me AFTER the curve so I wouldn't get too far behind him! GOOD friend!!! I mentioned those times when I'd come upon him quick, he said he JUST started slowing down for me and I was RIGHT on his tail! Lol. I couldn't believe TIRES could actually make me faster in the curves!!! Lol. We went to do a weekend of track days in Decatur, TX once and I couldn't believe how well I was doing. I will admit though...there were times just before going into a curve, I literally said out loud in my helmet, Don, what the hell are you even doing here?... I thought to myself, do what you've been taught...look ahead THROUGH the curve, maintain your speed and follow it through... It was one of the best days of my life on two wheels and I'd do it again!! Even today, on the roads, I still get scared. I have had no "chicken" strips on my back tire a couple times and that feels amazing, BUT...I've never put my knee down to "drag a knee"!! Lol. Anyways...Sorry for the BOOK here, and this video was just a great reminder for me for this Summer!! Good luck to all of us riders out there this year, especially newbie riders!!! Keep it safe, ride with the proper gear, ride within your own comfort zone and keep the leather up, as some say!!! Thank you again for the video!!! I'll definitely be checking out more from CanyonChasers!!! : )
Cornering is the fun part of motorbiking! As a former GA pilot, I ride with the same mentality as piloting an airplane, not to get there first, or the fastest, but with the most enjoyment of the ride. Staying ahead of the bike you ride is the same as staying ahead of the plane you fly. I was on a bike years before driving a car, and if you want to survive, you need to learn to read the road as far ahead of you as you can see. Complacency and lack of concentration can, and will kill you if you are caught in a tight situation and haven't considered your options beforehand. The best bike riders, as with the best pilots, learn to handle their controls with finesse', instead of jerky, abrupt input. Dumping the clutch & throttle, snatching the hand brake, stomping the foot brake, yanking the handlebars, will put you on the ground before you know what hit you.
Honestly, I can be a bit of a troll sometimes... but there's absolutely nothing on any of your points that I can troll you about lol. Great advice on your videos :)
I just upgraded to a 125 from an electric scooter. I got my booklet and I am going for my learners. I will be taking instruction from a motorcycle instructor, but I want to make sure that when I'm taking the course, I do it properly. Your videos will give me things to think about and practice as I go for my licence. Thank you.
I live on Vancouver Island, Canada. where roads are full of twist and turns. Very helpful video and easy to understand. Hope i can take a riders course from this instructor.
Im really glad to have found this channel. I had a really bad wreck in 1990, almost didn't live. I have not been on a bike since. Until this past Saturday. I bought a 2005 Honda Rebel 250 to commute to work 30 miles round trip. Thing is, I'm scared. And I catch myself anticipating things, hesitating , over stearing, ect. If I cant get past this fear, I may end up selling the bike. BTW, I have a 12 year old son counting on me this time. JA
Fear is healthy. Put your arm around it and pay attention to it. Figure out what's scaring you and then find strategies to address it. The worst thing we can be called as riders is "fearless".
Love trail braking learnt from you. I am in the uk and when I post on some sites about this technique I get criticised by all the advance riders esp ex police. I practice all you say and I never get scared no more. It’s right scared once on a ride and it’s onward progress is blighted. I used to hate showing my brake light to riders behind me but at least I feel safe. I have even been caught up at junctions and told I shouldn’t be braking in the bends. True that was taught on my advance course and the diminishing point but I prefer trail braking and wide axis approach. Thank you for making me feel so much safer
Thank you. I get a ton of comments from the UK, mostly from grads of Roadcraft. Either they tell me I’m going to get riders injured because blah blah blah, or folks who are so grateful they discovered trail braking and how it makes riding on those narrow (awesome) twisty, wet UK roads so much more fun and controlled.
Thanks for the great content! Your trail braking video literally changed my way to enter a curve, that's been a HUGE improvement in the fun and the security of my riding style. A little weird in the beginning, but after a few hours of practicing it became natural. Now I recommend all my riders friends to watch our videos, these should be used in riding classes just after getting the license. Some of them still think I'm crazy to enter a curve on the front brake haha... Greats from French Alps ;)
I was taught not to touch the front brake when turning too! However when I started riding my bike I was doing this constantly and I was very scared that I am holding gently the front brake sometimes to the mid of the corner. Now I understand that it is actually a thing ... Now my next fear is sand in the middle of the turn and sliding the front wheel away.
Hey man! I discovered your channel two days ago. I watched a lot of videos and yesterday went for a ride. I felt much more confident in turns. I'm practicing trail braking now. Congrats for the great content.
Very good video I have been riding for 51 years and think this video is good for beginners and seasoned veterans like me. KEEP it up on two's and all ways look ahead and have fun riding
Thank you! You reminded me that I still have a huge amount of skills to improve. Thank you also for the video you did once a as response to my question. Appreciate it.
Very good. I am 61 and thinking of getting back into riding. It's been 40 years. Thinking of buying a new VStar 250. Many friends are telling me I am too old. But I am just as sharp as I was when I was 35, but the constant criticism has gotten to me. Anyway, I digress. Great video!
It'd make sense if you rode the same course with a bicycle. I don't mean that to sound demeaning.... You feel the torque and slip with your legs more and you'd be more comfortable taking it on a motorbike
this video is well done I think everything you discussed is explained in the MSF beginners course You left out THE most important thing. You say countersteer to initiate lean into the curve but then you say nothing about how to hold your position in the lane all the way thru the curve. You countersteer a motorcycle at speed all the time. You countersteer when going straight to avoid an object in your lane, you countersteer to move your bike from one side of your lane to the other and you countersteer all the way thru the curve. Many new riders slow down and set up the curve nicely, get into it, and then feel like the radius of the curve is somehow being held by the lean of the bike and your speed. They fear if they speed up or slow down (sometimes necessary) the bike will go wide or turn in tighter. They think they have to ride it out as is, because doing anything will make the tires skid sideways. That is only true when you have entered the curve at the max speed the tires can handle - if you take the curve slower you have plenty of overhead left to navigate around anything in your path. When you apply throttle or brakes the bike will go wide or turn in tighter if you do NOT adjust the amount of pressure you are applying to counter steer. But you can change the pressure you are applying and keep the bike where it is in the lane as you speed up or slow down. And you can pull the turn in tighter by pushing harder, or take the turn wider by pushing lighter. You counter steer all the way thru. When the curve straightens out if you release the countersteer pressure on the grip, the bike will stand up straight and go straight exiting the curve, while holding the speed constant. This is the most important aspect of motorcycle control (and you left it out).
I just got my license. Honestly, they were pretty much handing them out. I understand that the money is a big motivator for everyone, but motorcycle is not a toy. I just bought a 300cc ninja and 0-60 is about 5.5 seconds (I saw on YT), so you can hurt yourself pretty badly in just 5.5 seconds. Speed is fun, motorcycle is fun and being one with the bike is an amazing feeling, but proper front brake usage and safe cornering are just too important and more attention should be given to them in those classes.
anyone can pull the throttle back and go fast, but executing a perfect slow tight u turn 100% of the time takes skill & practice. Being a safe rider takes maturity and skill. All your points are on the money and great advice! ride safe!
Beginner rider here, only riding for roughly a month. Fun fact first time riding was the MSF course. So when I picked up the bike I bought a week later, I put it down .9 miles from dealership. Thank you for this video and any informative videos. I am trying to absorb as much as I Can as I’m gaining confidence on 2 wheels. P.s. if there’s any riders in MA area hit me up!
Excellent! Just found your channel and kudos to you guys for putting together a channel that allows rider to improve their skills and become a better rider! Too many out there that are teaching poor skills/behaviors. Relayed and put together well, from an experienced rider that knows you can never stop learning. 👍🏼 (SUBSCRIBED!)
A good rule for driving as well as motorcycling is if you don’t know what’s ahead of you don’t go faster than you can handle if something pops up. ie. Pot hole, sand/dirt, rocks, tighter corner than you thought. Pile ups are what happens when people don’t do this.
If you want to take this to the next level, check out an updated version of this video that answers some of the most common questions: ruclips.net/video/fuoYUYFNkGI/видео.html
THIS video is saving lives. i am 80 yr old and still riding a gsxr 600 i feel so concerned for new riders who know nothing about counter steering they pass test get a faster bike and no one has told them how to get it round a bend you see it all the time on you tube riders with great bikes the best gear running out of road for the sake of a few words of advise WELL YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB OF DOING JUST THAT, I WISH EVERY NEW RIDER COULD WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANKS
That’s awesome, hope I can say the same for myself at 80 y/o
I needed this.
I turned 30 when I sold my gsxr 600 one of the reasons is that I have a sore back after a while. You’re 80!! Keep it up man! High five.
You serious ? Your 80 and ride a gsxr600, I think your chatting b.s
@@RUBBERNMETAL hes lying
As a 70 yo new rider, I’ve found this video to be exceptionally explained and throughly covered…Thanks for posting this
Awesome, thank you!
It's easy to miss how well this gentleman presented the material. Articulate and to the point. I enjoyed how this was done in such a manner as to be easily understood and not overwhelming. Kudos!
Much like this comment! Great praise!
And not spending 5 minutes telling us about his great-grand-aunt cooking techniques and his last trip to 7-Eleven. Always nice to have videos getting straight to the matter and not milking that ad money.
he was damn good.
I agree. This was great
Trail. Braking will save your life.
This guy very carefully chooses his advice with your safety in mind. He cares and isn't just a youtuber. You can sense it.
10:16 - 10:32 - Slower is smoother, safer, & FASTER - Great piece, great line. There are no videos I watch faster than you and RyanF9. Your videos are so well planned out and concise, you don't waste a second!
Yes sir. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Couldn’t agree more 👍🏻
touristguy87 who’d have thought another unpleasant aggressive anonymous individual on the Internet missing the point! 😂
@@touristguy87 could you explain what YOU BELIEVE is meant by "slower" in this video (do what slower)? Just curious.
Yeh I like this guy for his concise manner of giving critical info
It was so relatable when you say look ahead for 10-15 sec ahead.. I'm a motorcyclist with 9 years of experience and it totally translate into roads... Amateurs just pull the throttle and brake...with experience you'll learn how to maintain the speed rather than doing bursts and brakes. You go alot more faster and safer this way
Slow is smooth.
Smooth is fast.
A truism for most learned skills.
Drew Kangaroo Shooter movie. Mark Wahlberg says it to the young kid learning to shoot
Except with sex
@@Fee.1 wtf
@@kakarottoyt6405 well you see when a man and a woman love each other they ...scissor
@@Fee.1 I get it 🙂
I never knew that I was doing this in the back of my mind. The only reason why I don't push myself to lower angels of attack is that I don't wanna be the a hole who causes problems on the road. Now I appreciate dad's instructions even though I never understood them. Shout-out to all the amazing Dad's out there. ❤
Been riding for over 50 years but still learning. These videos are great.
“Staying ahead of the bike” is a term I have used for years. My favorite advice was something Al Unser Jr during said in an interview during qualifying for the Indy 500 in the early 90’s. A TV interviewer asked what it’s like going 240MPH. Al replied, “Well, ya gotta look wayyyy down the track...” Good video.
All the key points mentioned here should be incorporated into every single motorcycle license exam. When I got my licence 30 years ago, there wasn’t a single requirement for demonstrating command of essential skills beyond stopping. Turning riders lose on public roads without understanding these life saving skills is crazy to me. Running wide in corner can get you killed if you meet a car while doing it.
Yes! Absolutely!
This has to be one of the best, most common sense tutorials on how to corner, and ride in general. You got a subscriber out of it
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Wtf ! Over 40 years riding motorcycles, on and off, and I am enthusiastic about your channel. Excellent job man ! So clear you explain !
Ride on!! 😎
Fantastic content! Thank you!
I'll never forgot a couple of pieces of advice on cornering I received many years ago and your video brings them to mind. "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast" and "in like a lamb, out like a lion" :D
"Staying ahead of the motorcycle" is great advice as well!
Safe rides
Nice.
Be ahead of the motorcycle, thankfully i got this, I always think and plan ahead and this is why i have avoided so many accidents.
As a new rider that helped me a lot. My fear was always the cornering. You did excellent job with this video. Thank you guys. I wish you the best and keep safe driving.
Hopefully it will keep you upright for many a year.
I’m a believer that at age 68 dirt and street with 55 years of real riding. I always have more to learn. Motorcyclist always must stay educated and willing to learn from years of experience and to learn from the new rider. Great video. This video alone will save lives. You may never hear about it but it will.
Nearly rode a 50cc into a corner yesterday while out for my first drive ever. Suffice to say, I backed off on a 690cc I was eyeing and got a 125cc. Slow and smooth.. I'll get there.
MAKE SURE , YOU GO REALLY SLOW AND DONT ACCELERATE WHEN ITS WET AND ICY AND WHEN THERES A PATCH OF MUD OR LEAVES !!!!
And don’t make the mistake of getting a 690 as your next bike. Go up in stages, I just got a Duke 390 and it’s perfect for a city commute and does 120kmh / 80 mph all day long. And you still get to ring the nuts out of it. Get a 690 when your in Germany and don’t have speed limits, otherwise they are just a ticket collector. I much prefer to smash thru the gears, rather than pottering around in 3rd all day.
@@abdulmoizayyaz or painted asphalt...
@@shaneparfitt77 I was ready to drop the hammer on a new R3...after reading the reviews and my own sensibility...got the R15...couldn't be happier. Riding a slower bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow...and trying to stay alive. A 125cc is way plenty to become a safe confident rider, develop your skills and enjoy riding..BTW: most motoGP riders practice and stay in shape with a mountain bike!
@@LiloUkulele nice choice with the single thumper. But I went for the naked KTM duke. I need to be upright looking around. I have a 25 km suburb to city commute, to and from work every day, car trip 1hr 20mim. bike trip 25m because we can legally lane filter here. I need to be upright and throwing it around like a dirt bike, weaving the shit out of it. Plus I’m an almost 60 yo grandfather, my days of sports bikes are over. My back, shoulders, and arms can’t take that shit anymore. I much prefer being comfortable and up high with a view.
Former Harley (Electra Glide Classic) rider here: GREAT VIDEO!
I also used to teach Time Trials - weekend warriors who took their daily driver on the track thinking that they were Kowalski (Vanishing Point) or Steve McQueen. It was fun, but the one thing I drilled into their heads was DON'T LOOK AT YOUR HOOD! Look to where the track disappears, and that way, the lap will seem slow, and you'll be ready for what ever happens between you and where you want to be. When the lap seems fast, you're not looking far enough ahead.
Oh, and if you have an off-track excursion, DON'T LOOK AT THE TREE! Look where you want to be; your brain and butt will figure out the muscle movements to get you there!
I already watched this 3 times and never get bored of it. Thank you Canyon Chaser for helping newbies like me.
This video not only covers counter-steering it has other safety basics and best practices for safe rewarding biking experience. CanyonChasers - the best bike academy on RUclips!
I try to Never let pressure from vehicles behind you make you forget the exceptionally valuable points of wisdom in this video
Practice is your best friend. But practice gradually. My experience. Thanks, good lesson.
This is totally worth listening over and over.
So good to hear that I'm not the only one to get scared on corners!! Glad I watched this. Thanks
As a fairly new rider struggling to get the cornering to feel right, this video is invaluable. Thanks a lot
I’ve been riding motorcycles since 1991 when I bought a 400cc Suzuki Bandit with no previous experience at all. I wished I had had at that time a RUclips channel like this one that shows the ropes of how to enjoy riding safely and not to get killed in the attempt. Greetings from Cádiz (Spain).
Me too! Thats a big reason why I started the channel. Also, those Bandit 400s were sick!
Excellent video! I've been riding for almost 30 years and I'm still surprised how many riders don't know how to counter-steer. I would like to comment on one thing: "Continue to accellerate through the turn" is just bad wording in the old manuals. They didn't mean to imply you should be speeding up throughout the turn. The intent of that statement was to say you shouldn't coast through a turn. You should always have some throttle applied. The way it was written is bad advice if taken literally, but if the message is taken as intended, it's correct. You should not let off the throttle completely during a turn or a curve. If you have to suddenly accellerate for some reason, it's safer to do so with power already applied. Suddenly accellerating when you are coasting and leaning can cause the back tire to lose traction and cause a crash.
The voice of experience speaking wisdom 👍🏻
Thank you for clearing that up! I just finished my MSF course and was taught to hold steady throttle through the turn and then I thought it was wrong. haha
Maintenance throttle 👍🏼
Thanks! That was confusing me a bit.
My 2016 Kymco Downtown 300i will go wide if I increase throttle in a curve and will tighten up and increase turn radius if I reduce throttle so I think that’s good advice. I’m getting a 2002 Harley Heritage soft tail next week and I bet it will do the same thing.
very informative. . .watching from the philippines january 20, 2021 10:11PM
This is absolutely one of the best channels on RUclips.
those 337 dislikes are idiots... this is the most comprehensive, complete, and easy-to-understand tutorial I have ever watched on TY. Thank you and you have great content on this video.
I was taught to drive a standard transmission car. A basic example is to drive in 3rd gear, then downshift into 2nd below going into the turn, then going back into 3rd after exiting the turn. This was on residential, but it can be applied to other gears depending on whether you're on the highway or residential driving. I find it works pretty good when cornering on a motorcycle.
Goood tip bro
This is such a great video! I crashed a few weeks ago because I entered the bend too fast, fixated on a target, found gravel on the bend when it was too late, and then crashed into the guardrail. I can picture every second of that crash, and this video just taught me a billion things I did wrong. Will never make the same mistakes on my new bike again. Subscribe earned. Thank you so much!
I'm so glad that you're ok. Having a run-in (no pun intended) with a guard rail is usually a death sentence for a rider, or very, very bad at best. I lived in southern Kalifornia for about 13 years right at the bottom of the mountains, and it always pained me to read of the death of riders on those twisty mountain roads. A VAST majority of those deaths were crotch rocket pilots with more testosterone than brains, and they paid the ultimate price. You'll NEVER go wrong watching Dave's videos here!! He is simply the best teacher on the Internet for riding skills. I'm glad you survived and I KNOW you'll be a better rider after having watched Dave as long as you put what he tells us into practice! Ride safe and live to ride another day!
A dear friend of mine who has done Boston marathon in under three hours told me one day when we were training “slow is smooth and smooth is fast“ and I couldn’t figure it out for a while and then it clicked. Thanks JP!
The Rock ur mom is smooth and fast
World record marathon ?
All very interesting..... My (ancient) history on motorcycles was on Italian stuff from the 70s and 90s. I still recall being amazed that newer bikes had a brake-light switch for the front brake. Most bikes I'd ridden had one only for the rear.
Anyway.... All this seems like good advice. Nice video.
As a new motorcycle rider (but 20 years of biking), this is both common sense and very informative. I've found that applying some of my biking habits to my motorcycling habits helped a lot in reducing stress while on the road.
Your content is a real trove and every video I watch makes me want to go out and try your tips !
I did the bikesafe course in the UK, they teach us to follow IPSGA which is basically the same as you've put across here.
Information - What can you see? Roadsigns, Lines, Other road users, Parking areas, Turn offs etc etc
Position - Left turn, Move to the right of the lane before the corner, Right turn, move to the left
Speed - achieve your corner entry speed
Gear - choose the gear for the corner
Acceleration - Accelerate out of the corner.
Works for me, and all the other bikesafe students I know
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. One of the best lessons I ever learned in my life (wasn't even related to riding, but it's applicable in so many situations)
The only thing I would change, is me watching this video 15 years ago when I was a new rider. Great information, great presentation. Subscribed.
This point of interring the corner wide has been the best advice for me in over 40 years of riding, I’m safer now than I’ve ever been and also enjoying riding more than ever with this new found confidence from your tutelage..... thanks. Looking forward to a favourite ride later today even more after watching this. Keep it up! 🙏
Loads of great advice given out here. If you take notice of it and practice it then the enjoyment of biking increases tenfold.
Yet another outstanding video. Whenever I feel I need a reminder or refresher on a motorcycle related skill I always come back here. Thank you. ☝️
This guys advice literally saved my life.
As the motorcycle season in Europe begins , this was a wonderful mental refresher for seasoned riders as well as beginners. Thank you for such great tutorials.....it may save a life! God bless and safe riding...
Stay indoors, dude, stop spreading the virus. Dirtiest continent so far - Europe. Defeat the virus, then think about having fun. Irresponsible knobo
@@bartholomewlyons by riding around you are not spreading it. You can only spread or get the virus if you come in contact with other people. Almost all of the social places (aka restaurants, night clubs, gyms, etc) aren't allowed to be open anyway. At least that is what the Netherlands (my country) is doing right now. So go ride if you are well enough. Just don't go giving people high fives and just keep your distance.
I took a 30 year break from riding to raise 4 kids. I'm subscribing because I need to refresh my skills. This is common sense training. I worked my way up from a RD 350 Yamaha to an XS 1100. I now have a GL 1500. The same rules apply to all bikes.
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Your opinion has been over-hauled; riding doesnˋt spread the Virus and Europe as dirtiest continent (not nice word usage, dirty has nothing to do with it) will be unfortunately outdone by the USA , especially my home town ny. The police in europe are not stopping motorcyclist; except in bavaria, they just don’t want them to congregate. Everyone here has been very disciplined staying at home and keeping their distance. We are taking this very seriously !
In the motorcycle class I took (in 1993), they said, "the definition of a good motorcycle rider is someone who knows his limits and rides within them". That's the best motorcycle advice I've ever heard.
I do believe that the MSF course instructors are changing how they word things. You mentioned accelerating throughout the corner. What I heard was to accelerate “or” maintain throttle. I believe trail breaking is an advanced skill but all riders should learn how to do it. It has saved me from running wide more than once. I’m always working on entry speed and smoother corners. I like your rule about accelerating coming out of the corner being a measurement for a good corner. Great video 👍🏻
touristguy87 Maybe I didn’t word things correctly? I think you miss understood what I was trying to say? Yes, like every single rider out there I have struggled with entry speed, ect. Speaking from experience. It was a learning curve for me to learn trail breaking. I always work on Self-Improvement. When I have something to say that would benefit a new rider I post my personal experience. I didn’t want a new rider to think trail breaking would be easy to learn. Break and clutch control are both hard to master. I have been riding for 41 years.
I often hear people say trail-braking is an "advanced" or "race track only" skill. I think that's 100% false because as car drivers EVERYONE instinctively trail-brakes all the time. Just watch for brake lights on freeway off ramps. Even grandma keeps brake pressure on well passed the turn-in point!! The only difference between driving & riding is that in general motorcycle controls (throttle, brakes, turning) are harder to master smoothness with & you're more likely to upset the chassis balance with an aggressive input.
You are THE best teacher on "how to turn a corner" !!!
Very well said. In slowing before the corner, consider downshifting before the corner if you think you will need to. It’s less busy than trying to downshift during the turn and it will give you plenty of torque to accelerate coming out. Never go into a turn until you know what’s coming. Much heartbreak results otherwise.
Just bought my first bike I’ve been nervous about taking it out but I’m half way through this video and I must say watching this is giving me the confidence I need thank you a bunch
You can do it! Keep those eyes up and focus on smooth linear inputs
I fell taking a sharp corner, now I understand my mistake. Thank you so much for explaining! I will be practicing more.
What was your mistake, Victoria?
Say it Vic
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I discovered motorcycles 4 years ago, but RUclips much more recently. I have put about 40K on my bike before ever hearing any tips or instruction from anyone. A lot of what I am hearing I realize I am already doing. But not the moving my head. I think I have always known to look where I want the bike to go, but will definitely move my head more. And yeah… enter slow, see the exit, and accelerate towards the light!! Thank you!! Fantastic video!, 👍👍
I watched this before embarking on a mountainous trip with my experienced friends... Sufficient to say it helped me a lot and gave me huge moral boost to safely bike while enjoying good rides.. Subscribed the channel.. Thanks guys.
words of wisdom..Your vid needs to be required viewing for so many Deals Gap riders
Absolutely loved the video! A year ago i fractured my ankle whilst on a off-road bike training, took me a year to get back on the bike; just fear of hurting myself again. I was very afraid of corners especially. I then get new riders telling me how i don't lean enough and enjoy the corner as i should. I'll practice more with what i have seen in this video.
Yeah, man! Remember, the best riders reduce lean angle as much as they can. A street rider with no "chicken strips" scares me. Strive for proficiency, not speed. Ride your ride.
Moved to a new City w a new bike, haven't ridden in years.Im very thankful for your uploads.It just might save my ass
You guys knock it out of the park every time! So informative, concise, and entertaining. Thanks so very much.
another instructor said to move or lean your head in direction of the curve....helps to lean your bike into the curve. works like magic.
Indeed ! Thanks a ton for making me a smarter rider. In fact i applied the techniques u mentioned in earlier vids that really worked ! .. when ever i sat on my bike allowing to warm up my engine , your advice popups in my head , that really gives me super confidents to move on. I can't thank enough. ..
It's maybe weird how the RUclips algorithm dictates views, but I just saw this video after I watched the other videos on cornering and on trail braking.....and I gotta say, it's amazing how well articulated the advice is. I'm not looking to be a racer or anything but I want to be able to not get stuck in a position of "oh shit" on any turn I need to make on the street, and this channel is without a doubt helping me do that. Dave has a way of really laying down the concepts in words that hold meaning when re-imagined in the viewers' minds
"We have met the enemy and they are OURS", is Perry's quote. "US" is from a 1960's Anti-Vietnam cartoon strip... how I know this I do not know! Great videos and as always very informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
I know. I tried several times but could never make it through "They are ours" without messing up - So I changed last minute to "us" thinking nobody will notice - clearly all y'all canyonchasers are an informed bunch!
Navy vet, poor cornerer and office nerd, here. I caught that too and I almost commented lol. I use the twisted version alot at work because it does a good job capturing the hopelessness of business improvement :-(
I first read that quote in a Pogo comic strip back in the early 80s.
Knowing a subject isn't the same as being able to teach it. This video is so good because he's not only knowledgeable, but he understands what it's like not to know what the topic he's presenting. Great teacher.
This guy is a brilliant teacher.
4.12 the most important advice by far. So many riders do not realise how they actually drive around corners. Its simple physics. I often show this to people by letting them hold a spinning bicycle wheel by the axels and asking them to tilt the wheel and feel what happens - really surprises people a lot!
Great video. Love that you didn't feel the need to bang on at length about Counter Steering, so many motorcycle cornering videos fixate on Counter Steering like it is some mystic art/magic, when in reality it is just something every motorcyclist is already doing when going round a corner.
If anything, I think countersteering has been sold as the one perfect solution to every problem. Its not at all. It may even increase risk in some situations. If you are slowing into corners, you barely even need it.
Just purchased my new bike. This is the best cornering vid I have seen for far. Great job!!
Great video! Admittedly the hardest thing for me to overcome is not looking far ahead enough. I think it was motojitsu that uses the term "big head turn" in his cornering videos. When I remind myself to do that, it makes a huge difference (still a work in progress and I've been riding since the mid 80s).
I've been riding for almost 4 decades, great info for new and veteran riders.
These videos are great. I've been taking their advice to heart for some time now, and in regular traffic I feel like I've gained quite a significant amount of extra safety margin, control and got more relaxed as a rider. (And also got a hell of a lot quicker if the situations allows for it). Good job guys.
This clip is very helpful, I have been out of the motorcycle game for 20+ years and am getting back into it. Seeing clips like this helps the knowledge return.
Great video and a great reminder for all levels of riders. I find I am in that risky category of becoming very comfortable riding. I should be evaluating my level each time I ride and try not to get too comfy.
Many thanks for the informative video. Used to be a biker some 30 years ago, and now when the kids are grown ups and all that, I decided to buy a bike again. Ended up with a Kawa 900 GPSr, witch is kind of a monster bike to me, allthough its more than 30 years old now. Thanks to your lesson here I suddenly feel much more confident as a "born again motorcycle rider". Again, many thanks!
Thanks for the sharing the nuances of this topic. I feel like I do these things already, but just coming back to riding after some years, I'd forgotten some of the points, like thinking more than two seconds ahead and taking the corners wide.. Slower is faster and more satisfying, especially when it comes to the 'coming home in the same condition I started the ride' part.
Excellent video!!! I have been riding for about 26 years and for the most part, I've always been...scared of cornering! I do like to ride within my limits but have always wanted to get faster in the curves as well, just been too scared. I have a good friend in TX that I was riding with and he's a MUCH better rider than me! I could NEVER keep up with him in the curves. To be honest, I was always very nervous riding with him beCAUSE he was so good! Every once in a while he'd wave me by and into a curve first, usually when we have the cameras rolling! Lol. Which was most of the time, and of course...that made me even MORE nervous! Lol. One day I got new tires and believe it or not, I found myself not only keeping UP with him in the SAME curves but...there were a few times there, he was actually in my way as we were exiting the curve. I didn't know what to make of it, and just figured he was going slower for me. The next time we stopped...he said to me, "whatever those tires are doing for you, keep it up!". I really didn't know what he was talking about. I finally asked him and he said that when he would go through the curves first then slow up for me AFTER the curve so I wouldn't get too far behind him! GOOD friend!!! I mentioned those times when I'd come upon him quick, he said he JUST started slowing down for me and I was RIGHT on his tail! Lol. I couldn't believe TIRES could actually make me faster in the curves!!! Lol. We went to do a weekend of track days in Decatur, TX once and I couldn't believe how well I was doing. I will admit though...there were times just before going into a curve, I literally said out loud in my helmet, Don, what the hell are you even doing here?... I thought to myself, do what you've been taught...look ahead THROUGH the curve, maintain your speed and follow it through... It was one of the best days of my life on two wheels and I'd do it again!! Even today, on the roads, I still get scared. I have had no "chicken" strips on my back tire a couple times and that feels amazing, BUT...I've never put my knee down to "drag a knee"!! Lol. Anyways...Sorry for the BOOK here, and this video was just a great reminder for me for this Summer!! Good luck to all of us riders out there this year, especially newbie riders!!! Keep it safe, ride with the proper gear, ride within your own comfort zone and keep the leather up, as some say!!! Thank you again for the video!!! I'll definitely be checking out more from CanyonChasers!!! : )
Great story! Those moments are what keeps a lot of us connected to the sport!
I really like this guy. Thank you sir for helping school us.
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Cornering is the fun part of motorbiking! As a former GA pilot, I ride with the same mentality as piloting an airplane, not to get there first, or the fastest, but with the most enjoyment of the ride. Staying ahead of the bike you ride is the same as staying ahead of the plane you fly. I was on a bike years before driving a car, and if you want to survive, you need to learn to read the road as far ahead of you as you can see. Complacency and lack of concentration can, and will kill you if you are caught in a tight situation and haven't considered your options beforehand. The best bike riders, as with the best pilots, learn to handle their controls with finesse', instead of jerky, abrupt input. Dumping the clutch & throttle, snatching the hand brake, stomping the foot brake, yanking the handlebars, will put you on the ground before you know what hit you.
Honestly, I can be a bit of a troll sometimes... but there's absolutely nothing on any of your points that I can troll you about lol. Great advice on your videos :)
I just upgraded to a 125 from an electric scooter. I got my booklet and I am going for my learners. I will be taking instruction from a motorcycle instructor, but I want to make sure that when I'm taking the course, I do it properly. Your videos will give me things to think about and practice as I go for my licence. Thank you.
I live on Vancouver Island, Canada. where roads are full of twist and turns. Very helpful video and easy to understand. Hope i can take a riders course from this instructor.
We love riding Vancouver Island!! What is it called? Pacific Marine Road, south of Lake Cowichan? Good stuff!!
A CANYON CHASERS VIDEO?! yeeeessss.
Added to my Motorcycle Training playlist.
Me as well.
Im really glad to have found this channel. I had a really bad wreck in 1990, almost didn't live. I have not been on a bike since. Until this past Saturday. I bought a 2005 Honda Rebel 250 to commute to work 30 miles round trip. Thing is, I'm scared. And I catch myself anticipating things, hesitating , over stearing, ect. If I cant get past this fear, I may end up selling the bike. BTW, I have a 12 year old son counting on me this time. JA
Fear is healthy. Put your arm around it and pay attention to it. Figure out what's scaring you and then find strategies to address it. The worst thing we can be called as riders is "fearless".
I feel like I’ve taken expert training from you and your videos. Thanks for making quality work!
Love trail braking learnt from you. I am in the uk and when I post on some sites about this technique I get criticised by all the advance riders esp ex police. I practice all you say and I never get scared no more. It’s right scared once on a ride and it’s onward progress is blighted. I used to hate showing my brake light to riders behind me but at least I feel safe. I have even been caught up at junctions and told I shouldn’t be braking in the bends. True that was taught on my advance course and the diminishing point but I prefer trail braking and wide axis approach. Thank you for making me feel so much safer
Thank you. I get a ton of comments from the UK, mostly from grads of Roadcraft. Either they tell me I’m going to get riders injured because blah blah blah, or folks who are so grateful they discovered trail braking and how it makes riding on those narrow (awesome) twisty, wet UK roads so much more fun and controlled.
Thanks for the great content!
Your trail braking video literally changed my way to enter a curve, that's been a HUGE improvement in the fun and the security of my riding style. A little weird in the beginning, but after a few hours of practicing it became natural.
Now I recommend all my riders friends to watch our videos, these should be used in riding classes just after getting the license. Some of them still think I'm crazy to enter a curve on the front brake haha...
Greats from French Alps ;)
I was taught not to touch the front brake when turning too! However when I started riding my bike I was doing this constantly and I was very scared that I am holding gently the front brake sometimes to the mid of the corner. Now I understand that it is actually a thing ... Now my next fear is sand in the middle of the turn and sliding the front wheel away.
@@KamenKachev they have a video on that ruclips.net/video/9VXL4l7g0gI/видео.html
This is honest, practical, and it addresses real concerns of real riders. Kudos!
Hey man! I discovered your channel two days ago. I watched a lot of videos and yesterday went for a ride. I felt much more confident in turns. I'm practicing trail braking now. Congrats for the great content.
Very good video I have been riding for 51 years and think this video is good for beginners and seasoned veterans like me. KEEP it up on two's and all ways look ahead and have fun riding
Thank you! You reminded me that I still have a huge amount of skills to improve. Thank you also for the video you did once a as response to my question. Appreciate it.
The analogy with aviation is spot on. THINK ahead of your bike and be conservative at all times…
Outstanding video - one of the best I have seen on the topic. Bravo!
Very good. I am 61 and thinking of getting back into riding. It's been 40 years. Thinking of buying a new VStar 250. Many friends are telling me I am too old. But I am just as sharp as I was when I was 35, but the constant criticism has gotten to me. Anyway, I digress. Great video!
66 and still ride brother. Keep safe.
Just finished my msf course and the only thing I lost points on was accelerating through the entire curve. It just doesn't feel right!
Look into trail braking. You hold the brake and trail off just past the apex
I like corners with lots of tension, engine breaking. I feel more control specially on a heavy bikes.
Fluump?! What are you doing here!!?
It'd make sense if you rode the same course with a bicycle. I don't mean that to sound demeaning.... You feel the torque and slip with your legs more and you'd be more comfortable taking it on a motorbike
I can guarantee you mis-heard what you got points for.
this video is well done
I think everything you discussed is explained in the MSF beginners course
You left out THE most important thing. You say countersteer to initiate lean into the curve
but then you say nothing about how to hold your position in the lane all the way thru the curve.
You countersteer a motorcycle at speed all the time. You countersteer when going straight to avoid an object in your lane, you countersteer to move your bike from one side of your lane to the other
and you countersteer all the way thru the curve.
Many new riders slow down and set up the curve nicely, get into it, and then feel like the radius of the curve is somehow being held by the lean of the bike and your speed. They fear if they speed up or slow down (sometimes necessary) the bike will go wide or turn in tighter. They think they have to ride it out as is, because doing anything will make the tires skid sideways. That is only true when you have entered the curve at the max speed the tires can handle - if you take the curve slower you have plenty of overhead left to navigate around anything in your path.
When you apply throttle or brakes the bike will go wide or turn in tighter if you do NOT adjust the amount of pressure you are applying to counter steer.
But you can change the pressure you are applying and keep the bike where it is in the lane as you speed up or slow down.
And you can pull the turn in tighter by pushing harder, or take the turn wider by pushing lighter. You counter steer all the way thru.
When the curve straightens out if you release the countersteer pressure on the grip, the bike will stand up straight and go straight exiting the curve, while holding the speed constant.
This is the most important aspect of motorcycle control (and you left it out).
I just got my license. Honestly, they were pretty much handing them out. I understand that the money is a big motivator for everyone, but motorcycle is not a toy. I just bought a 300cc ninja and 0-60 is about 5.5 seconds (I saw on YT), so you can hurt yourself pretty badly in just 5.5 seconds. Speed is fun, motorcycle is fun and being one with the bike is an amazing feeling, but proper front brake usage and safe cornering are just too important and more attention should be given to them in those classes.
anyone can pull the throttle back and go fast, but executing a perfect slow tight u turn 100% of the time takes skill & practice. Being a safe rider takes maturity and skill. All your points are on the money and great advice! ride safe!
Beginner rider here, only riding for roughly a month. Fun fact first time riding was the MSF course. So when I picked up the bike I bought a week later, I put it down .9 miles from dealership.
Thank you for this video and any informative videos. I am trying to absorb as much as I Can as I’m gaining confidence on 2 wheels. P.s. if there’s any riders in MA area hit me up!
Excellent! Just found your channel and kudos to you guys for putting together a channel that allows rider to improve their skills and become a better rider! Too many out there that are teaching poor skills/behaviors. Relayed and put together well, from an experienced rider that knows you can never stop learning. 👍🏼 (SUBSCRIBED!)
I've been riding for 30 grata now and stilo don't consider myself a great rider.
Always great to learn such great tips.
Thank you 💪✌️
A good rule for driving as well as motorcycling is if you don’t know what’s ahead of you don’t go faster than you can handle if something pops up. ie. Pot hole, sand/dirt, rocks, tighter corner than you thought. Pile ups are what happens when people don’t do this.
Brand new motorcycle owner here soaking up everything I can on RUclips and WOW so much to think about thanks for the great video
Finally, someone who touches on counter steering
If I started to think about counter steering during riding I'd probably crash and blow up 😂