Just put Cliffs upgrade on before an 8K trip and it was not only a breeze to put on but has worked flawlessly for my trip. DONT BUY THE CHEAP KNOCK-OFFS THEY ARE JUNK! Thanks again Cliff, your work is appreciated and shame on Honda for not paying you and having these on from the factory.
Just fitted one of these to my 92 goldwing here in Australia, i must say what a major difference, and if u own a gl1500 i highly recommend one of these u wont regret it.
Did you buy yours from this company? I called # is out of service the same person has them on Ebay. Im a little apprehensive about buying off of ebay. Seems a little shady.
A superb modification! Thank you! Received last week, installed today, and it is a huge improvement to shifting. Thanks too for the video because the written instructions were not as clear.
Installed mine yesterday, it took about 1 hour and 45 minutes. My Goldwing has a sidecar attatched so it was installed while lying on my back most of the time. While watching the video and installing the shift pivot, I noticed my bike was missing the rubber boot on the heat/shift seal so I ordered one. The hardest part was trimming the heat shield guard. After following the instructions it went on easily. Just a thought for other people. while I had everthing off I lubed all the rubber grommets for the panel with an o-ring lube (for Pools) to treat them and make panel removal easier. Also replaced some of the rusted nuts. Tried it out and the ratchety feeling of shifting is gone. My GL had 30655 miles on it when I picked it up in May. I kept thinking the missed shifts and ratccchety shifting was from not being used to a new bike. Been riding since 1964. Great product, works as described. Thanks
Would like to hear more about your sidecar. My son gifted me a 1994 GL1500se. On a fixed income so sidecar out of reach for me. Doesn't stop me from thinking about it.
I watched your video and order the shifter unit. When I unpacked it I took it all apart and could not figure how it went back together... Lols. So... I watched the video again and yeah all good! Thankyou for your unit and your Video Cliff I hope this makes you giggle. Jim.
wow....i just purchased a used 1989 GL1500, and in the rear bag was this product, in the bag un opened. Had no clue what it was, or what it was for. Glad i found this vid. Bike seems to shift just fine, however i assume they got it for a reason.
I just installed mine have not been out to ride it yet though. I did run into a problem. if it is tightened on to the crash bar area to tight it won't spring back up from first gear the upper gears spring down back into position just fine. I thought maybe the washer was squeezing into the pivot area so I took my grinder and removed some material where it might touch the pivot area nope that did not work. So I just had to lock tight it in and not over tighten it.
Same here. I filed away the Center part that comes forward through the pivot block and sits inside the Teflon bushing…. Thought the washer was jamming it…. Then I realized the thickness of the lower piece the should move between the back of the pivot block and the crash bar mount is too thick…. Major hassle getting this to work properly as per the video here…. Maybe that’s not a big deal… but I figure to keep filing the crash bar mount and the thickness until it returns back up to centre “neutral” as stated and shown in the video… it returns to centre or “neutral” from shifting upwards but not the other way… I may be over analyzing this because I find it hard to believe it is this finicky …. Ps I bought mine from Cycle max for big dollars because I wanted the quality original design and not a knock off….
Great video. Question: There appears to be two different style shift pivots, one with the allen/hex bolt installing from the front of the engine and the other installs from the rear, clearing the exhaust pipe which makes it much easier to install and tighten the "allen hex bolt." Which one is now available? Also "Cyclemax" is selling this product for a little less. Is it the same product? Please let me know? "Thanks"
I thought the same thing and almost didn’t buy one. But, when I installed it tonight I realized that the shaft we see in this video doesn’t go directly to the transmission and instead has another linkage and shaft that it turns. The added pivot point keeps the shaft in the transmission from flexing down and it makes better sense when you can see that one.
@@ydeardorff no joke. an exploded parts map should be included , I could not wrap my head around how this works because every shifter in every side case I have ever taken off a bike, the shaft just moves as if opening a jar, twist motion. after looking more extensively I can see inside there is an entirely different type of mechanism in there. It's a crazy thing, also I thought, Duuu. of course it's different! wtf was I thinking, this engine and tranny is more like a car than a dirt bike, if they had a straight shaft into the gear box to shift gears the whole shaft would be in a different location. Like you were saying though, woudl have been a great point to show for folks that have not been taking a a whole bike apart to see for themselves.
Greetings Cliff, Brilliant detailed video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸 I bought me a vintage GL 15000, and I really need your product. How do I place a order? Thank you so much for assisting me.
I have a 1995 goldwing heel-toe shifter with floorboards seems to grind or clunk more than normal downshifting from second to first even at slow speeds 10 miles an hour or less the chef rod does wobble would like to use your product can't seem to pull up website to order would be great if you would post a link here and price thank you much
How's the Valkyrie project coming..?????? Why wouldn't this product work on the Valkyrie?????? Same motor and transmission with very little to remove to gain access.. Waiting to purchase for my 97 Valkyrie
i don't see what difference this makes the shaft is still flopping all over if anything it should be solid mounted with a bushing on the shaft for support
Why wasn't the shift shaft immobilized so it can only rotate and not flop around? Seems with that bolt right there a block and hat bushing would have perfectly arrested all but rotational movement...
in case you are still searching for your answer, for heel-toe shifters yes. it will work, HOWEVER, sense most floorboard kits also use the same crash guard bolt hole for mounting the floorboards you will need to make some alterations or modifications to the floorboard hardware. they usually use spacers to to clear the body panel, so if yours does you can just cut the same thickness off the spacer as the mounting block is thick and you should be golden. but there are several floorboard kits, i'm not familiar with them all and i don't know how yours mounts up.
@@lattitude01 I am going to give this a shot I guess, I can feel what I think is correctable slop, when I first got the bike I assumed, because I have never used floor boards and heel toe ) that it was just the way that works. It seems to me that there woudldnot be as many fans of this set up if they were all sloppy like this.
I've been trying to purchase The shift Pivot but have no luck on cashing out? I dont use PayPal and it keeps telling me the other way is not available right now does it ever work?
I bought mine from Cyclemax a couple of years ago. This one is the same, the original (but improved version)it's not the cheap knock-offs you see coming out of Europe recently.
May I ask would that work on a gL1800 . I ask because I am having a hard time with stiff shifting from 5th gear only when I downshift from 5th gear????
Amazing what one can try to convince themselves into. if you watch after installation, the shaft does not rotate about its own central axis. It CLEARLY moves in lateral and diagonal directions exactly is it was described to have DONE before installation, therefore visibly making the additional pivot brace absolutely useless. It's just riding along as the shaft still moves in the same up-down pattern that it did before. I was ordering parts as I watch this having looked for it for a long time and then realized and watching the video that it does not matter what you say in words.. it matters what the picture the video shows and it shows the shaft still moving up and down diagonally it does not show it rotating about its own aclxis. absolutely unbelievable I'm not even tearing a lot of stuff a part of my bike just to put something on they lets it still do the same thing it was doing before. makes no sense. I absolutely friendly fully believed in it in concept as I had harder to describe in the bit that I've had my colony but now that I see it in actual physical action it may feel better in different people and maybe you just want to feel better or maybe just clicks up against the metal as you move the shifter but this hole it's keeping the axis of rotation central to the shaft and not allowing this afternoon move laterally is complete crap use your eyeballs look at the screen
that was the last piece that he took off before he installed the brace. you are looking at the inside of it in the video when he talks about trimming it with tin snips. as he pulls it off of the bike you can see the rubber slide off of the shifter at the 3 minute mark.
Ok I've been a mechanic for decades... What I'm seeing here is their pivot doesn't isolate the shaft from off axis movement at all. The shaft should he held still in place, and rotate on its linear axis, not move up and down vertically
yes, that was very confusing to me also. it certainly appeared to be moving up and down far beyond its possible tolerances. I just called it an optical illusion, I guess.....
mechanic ? the "axis" really goes up and down, not turning like you think. At the back (you can't see) is a lever attached to a more forward (2 inches) axis which turns.
I bought the China crap one and got all my money back from that liar, he literally has stolen your pictures with the bushing and everything, the whole unit is sloppy and rough. it has so much slop it appears that it will break. i would never install that. However, your link no longer goes thru to buy this direct from you. I have a 99 Goldwing GL1500 with markland floor boards and heel toe shifter. my oil seal is wet with oil but not dripping, i;d like to get this done asap. my bike has only 75 thousand miles on it and i would like it to last as long as possible, shifts fine now and I want to keep it that way or better as you have stated.
Little Rubber Piece $30 Bucks Absurd ??, ....$125 For Two Pieces Of Aluminum Is Absurd Also...Feel Like You Have Us All "Goldwing Owners" By the "Short-hairs".....
How about 28K for a new bike? When the support bearings for the shaft completely fail, and your gearbox gives up to the ghost, then what? Each piece is hand fitted and handled many times. The packaging, shipping, manufacturing, materials, shipping and distribution costs are higher than you may think. I have taken none of these back for quality reasons. They work.
Then buy some billet aluminum, CNC machine, CAD program, hopefully you have some engineering and design skills already, if not you'll need to pay for some classes or training. Then sit down and design the parts you need, use your cnc to make them and then install them on the bike. I dare say you cannot do that for less than $125, not to mention that if you have used this design for your "template" or starting point you are basically stealing someone else's hard work, so there's that. If your design is an original one then you probably did not get it perfect on the first try and will then have to tweak it to make it better.... "Feel Like You Have Us All "Goldwing Owners" By the "Short-hairs"
I'm not a movie star or salesman. I did the best I could. I will say that you know little about factory tool sets if you think Honda supplies everything you need.
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Just put Cliffs upgrade on before an 8K trip and it was not only a breeze to put on but has worked flawlessly for my trip. DONT BUY THE CHEAP KNOCK-OFFS THEY ARE JUNK!
Thanks again Cliff, your work is appreciated and shame on Honda for not paying you and having these on from the factory.
Just fitted one of these to my 92 goldwing here in Australia, i must say what a major difference, and if u own a gl1500 i highly recommend one of these u wont regret it.
Did you buy yours from this company?
I called # is out of service the same person has them on Ebay. Im a little apprehensive about buying off of ebay. Seems a little shady.
I just installed your pivot. I had zero issues. Thanks for the video and a great product. The shifting is much improved.
A superb modification! Thank you! Received last week, installed today, and it is a huge improvement to shifting. Thanks too for the video because the written instructions were not as clear.
This man is a brilliant. Keeping the motion vertical is key to how the Goldwing shifts.
Hi Cliff, just installed the pivot kit on my 1992 GL1500A. Great directions and part is rock solid! Thanks!
Installed mine yesterday, it took about 1 hour and 45 minutes. My Goldwing has a sidecar attatched so it was installed while lying on my back most of the time. While watching the video and installing the shift pivot, I noticed my bike was missing the rubber boot on the heat/shift seal so I ordered one. The hardest part was trimming the heat shield guard. After following the instructions it went on easily. Just a thought for other people. while I had everthing off I lubed all the rubber grommets for the panel with an o-ring lube (for Pools) to treat them and make panel removal easier. Also replaced some of the rusted nuts. Tried it out and the ratchety feeling of shifting is gone. My GL had 30655 miles on it when I picked it up in May. I kept thinking the missed shifts and ratccchety shifting was from not being used to a new bike. Been riding since 1964. Great product, works as described. Thanks
Would like to hear more about your sidecar. My son gifted me a 1994 GL1500se. On a fixed income so sidecar out of reach for me. Doesn't stop me from thinking about it.
LOVE IT. Just installed mine yesterday 7-6-2020 the fitment is great. Owners do yourself a favor and do an oil seal at the same time.
I watched your video and order the shifter unit. When I unpacked it I took it all apart and could not figure how it went back together... Lols. So... I watched the video again and yeah all good! Thankyou for your unit and your Video Cliff I hope this makes you giggle. Jim.
Ordered mine and arriving tomorrow. Can't wait.
Can't wait to install mine!
Should arrive within a week or so, really stoked.
wow....i just purchased a used 1989 GL1500, and in the rear bag was this product, in the bag un opened. Had no clue what it was, or what it was for. Glad i found this vid. Bike seems to shift just fine, however i assume they got it for a reason.
Did you install it?
The website to buy this won't go thru. I wanted to buy this item but the link doesn't load.
the shaft should only rotate, looks like it still moves up and down with the shifter pivot installed ?
There’s a similar pivot inboard of the frame that attaches to the actual shift shaft. It’s a weird setup (thank you, Honda..)
I just installed mine have not been out to ride it yet though. I did run into a problem. if it is tightened on to the crash bar area to tight it won't spring back up from first gear the upper gears spring down back into position just fine. I thought maybe the washer was squeezing into the pivot area so I took my grinder and removed some material where it might touch the pivot area nope that did not work. So I just had to lock tight it in and not over tighten it.
Same here. I filed away the Center part that comes forward through the pivot block and sits inside the Teflon bushing…. Thought the washer was jamming it…. Then I realized the thickness of the lower piece the should move between the back of the pivot block and the crash bar mount is too thick…. Major hassle getting this to work properly as per the video here…. Maybe that’s not a big deal… but I figure to keep filing the crash bar mount and the thickness until it returns back up to centre “neutral” as stated and shown in the video… it returns to centre or “neutral” from shifting upwards but not the other way… I may be over analyzing this because I find it hard to believe it is this finicky …. Ps I bought mine from Cycle max for big dollars because I wanted the quality original design and not a knock off….
Great video. Question: There appears to be two different style shift pivots, one with the allen/hex bolt installing from the front of the engine and the other installs from the rear, clearing the exhaust pipe which makes it much easier to install and tighten the "allen hex bolt." Which one is now available?
Also "Cyclemax" is selling this product for a little less. Is it the same product? Please let me know? "Thanks"
What am I missing here? Is it just me that sees the shifting shaft still moving up and down?
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I thought the same thing and almost didn’t buy one. But, when I installed it tonight I realized that the shaft we see in this video doesn’t go directly to the transmission and instead has another linkage and shaft that it turns. The added pivot point keeps the shaft in the transmission from flexing down and it makes better sense when you can see that one.
@@nic.lowther.7 that little detail would have been helpful to mention
@@ydeardorff no joke. an exploded parts map should be included , I could not wrap my head around how this works because every shifter in every side case I have ever taken off a bike, the shaft just moves as if opening a jar, twist motion. after looking more extensively I can see inside there is an entirely different type of mechanism in there. It's a crazy thing, also I thought, Duuu. of course it's different! wtf was I thinking, this engine and tranny is more like a car than a dirt bike, if they had a straight shaft into the gear box to shift gears the whole shaft would be in a different location. Like you were saying though, woudl have been a great point to show for folks that have not been taking a a whole bike apart to see for themselves.
Greetings Cliff,
Brilliant detailed video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸
I bought me a vintage GL 15000, and I really need your product. How do I place a order?
Thank you so much for assisting me.
I need this, my 1500 is leaking oil so I will need the seal and the kit. Trying to find out how to buy it.
Does anyone know how or if we can get a hold of cliff to purchase one of these?
Instead of grinding, how about a washer to hold it away from the welds on the crash bar?
How does one get ahold of how to buy one? No information on the website the link takes you to buy / order
Having run about 6000 km with your Shifter Pivot and must say that the gearshift feels better and more "soft"
I am changing out boards for pegs. Do you have video for that 89 wing se
Looks wonderful
So, did you design a set-up for the Valkyrie yet ???? How can I get my mitts on one ???
Look up Shifter Buddy on facebook for the Valkyrie
He added at the end of video, he is able to send a rubber boot if needed. How do you contact him for this item?
how do you get the seal replaced ??
I have a 1995 goldwing heel-toe shifter with floorboards seems to grind or clunk more than normal downshifting from second to first even at slow speeds 10 miles an hour or less the chef rod does wobble would like to use your product can't seem to pull up website to order would be great if you would post a link here and price thank you much
Will this fit on the Valkyrie also ?
Will this work on the cl1500 Valkyrie?
How's the Valkyrie project coming..??????
Why wouldn't this product work on the Valkyrie??????
Same motor and transmission with very little to remove to gain access..
Waiting to purchase for my 97 Valkyrie
Anybody know of a video on replacing the oil seal? That looks like the hard part.
i don't see what difference this makes the shaft is still flopping all over if anything it should be solid mounted with a bushing on the shaft for support
Why wasn't the shift shaft immobilized so it can only rotate and not flop around? Seems with that bolt right there a block and hat bushing would have perfectly arrested all but rotational movement...
Where can I get this part at
Do you still make and sell these? Definitely need one but can't find them anywhere.
I have asked this question so many times it's making me a little crazy. Does this work if you have heel toe and floor boards? "99 GL1500 Aspencade.
in case you are still searching for your answer, for heel-toe shifters yes. it will work, HOWEVER, sense most floorboard kits also use the same crash guard bolt hole for mounting the floorboards you will need to make some alterations or modifications to the floorboard hardware. they usually use spacers to to clear the body panel, so if yours does you can just cut the same thickness off the spacer as the mounting block is thick and you should be golden. but there are several floorboard kits, i'm not familiar with them all and i don't know how yours mounts up.
@@lattitude01 I am going to give this a shot I guess, I can feel what I think is correctable slop, when I first got the bike I assumed, because I have never used floor boards and heel toe ) that it was just the way that works. It seems to me that there woudldnot be as many fans of this set up if they were all sloppy like this.
I need one. I have a 91 GL1500 I that the neutral is hard to find and sometimes the shifting from 1 to 2 sometimes pops back into neutral.
How do I take engine cover on gear side.
I’m a machinist, I made one of these in my shop. Specs are slightly different.
Did you make any extra?
I've been trying to purchase The shift Pivot but have no luck on cashing out? I dont use PayPal and it keeps telling me the other way is not available right now does it ever work?
I bought mine from Cyclemax a couple of years ago. This one is the same, the original (but improved version)it's not the cheap knock-offs you see coming out of Europe recently.
@@jimschwenk7469 thanks I did get one cyclemax no longer sells them. Its hard to find one with a bushing in it to many knock offs
do you know if this can be used on the GL1800
The 1800 has a great shifter. No Mike, it doesn't fit.
May I ask would that work on a gL1800 . I ask because I am having a hard time with stiff shifting from 5th gear only when I downshift from 5th gear????
Perchè non si inserisce la traduzione in altre lingue per questi filmati
Show me the price of it
Amazing what one can try to convince themselves into. if you watch after installation, the shaft does not rotate about its own central axis. It CLEARLY moves in lateral and diagonal directions exactly is it was described to have DONE before installation, therefore visibly making the additional pivot brace absolutely useless. It's just riding along as the shaft still moves in the same up-down pattern that it did before. I was ordering parts as I watch this having looked for it for a long time and then realized and watching the video that it does not matter what you say in words.. it matters what the picture the video shows and it shows the shaft still moving up and down diagonally it does not show it rotating about its own aclxis. absolutely unbelievable I'm not even tearing a lot of stuff a part of my bike just to put something on they lets it still do the same thing it was doing before. makes no sense. I absolutely friendly fully believed in it in concept as I had harder to describe in the bit that I've had my colony but now that I see it in actual physical action it may feel better in different people and maybe you just want to feel better or maybe just clicks up against the metal as you move the shifter but this hole it's keeping the axis of rotation central to the shaft and not allowing this afternoon move laterally is complete crap use your eyeballs look at the screen
will this work on my 2003 valkyrie?
Look up Shifter Buddy on facebook for the Valkyrie
Obviously you out the bolt back in the shifter lever and didn't leave it out when you said this concludes this part of the installation.
Ok didn't cover how to install the oil gasket
This work on a 1999 valkyrie?
I want this but as im in the uk its rather expensive :(
Ok you lost me with the heat shield, would have liked to see where it came from
that was the last piece that he took off before he installed the brace. you are looking at the inside of it in the video when he talks about trimming it with tin snips. as he pulls it off of the bike you can see the rubber slide off of the shifter at the 3 minute mark.
how do I buy one?
Product can be purchased at www.gl1500auxiliaryshifterpivot.com/
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Show me the price of it
How can I get 1 and how much $
Ok I've been a mechanic for decades... What I'm seeing here is their pivot doesn't isolate the shaft from off axis movement at all. The shaft should he held still in place, and rotate on its linear axis, not move up and down vertically
yes, that was very confusing to me also. it certainly appeared to be moving up and down far beyond its possible tolerances. I just called it an optical illusion, I guess.....
I agree. Looks cool but it’s a bandaide
mechanic ? the "axis" really goes up and down, not turning like you think. At the back (you can't see) is a lever attached to a more forward (2 inches) axis which turns.
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I bought the China crap one and got all my money back from that liar, he literally has stolen your pictures with the bushing and everything, the whole unit is sloppy and rough. it has so much slop it appears that it will break. i would never install that. However, your link no longer goes thru to buy this direct from you. I have a 99 Goldwing GL1500 with markland floor boards and heel toe shifter. my oil seal is wet with oil but not dripping, i;d like to get this done asap. my bike has only 75 thousand miles on it and i would like it to last as long as possible, shifts fine now and I want to keep it that way or better as you have stated.
Little Rubber Piece $30 Bucks Absurd ??, ....$125 For Two Pieces Of Aluminum Is Absurd Also...Feel Like You Have Us All "Goldwing Owners" By the "Short-hairs".....
How about 28K for a new bike? When the support bearings for the shaft completely fail, and your gearbox gives up to the ghost, then what? Each piece is hand fitted and handled many times. The packaging, shipping, manufacturing, materials, shipping and distribution costs are higher than you may think. I have taken none of these back for quality reasons. They work.
Then buy some billet aluminum, CNC machine, CAD program, hopefully you have some engineering and design skills already, if not you'll need to pay for some classes or training. Then sit down and design the parts you need, use your cnc to make them and then install them on the bike. I dare say you cannot do that for less than $125, not to mention that if you have used this design for your "template" or starting point you are basically stealing someone else's hard work, so there's that. If your design is an original one then you probably did not get it perfect on the first try and will then have to tweak it to make it better.... "Feel Like You Have Us All "Goldwing Owners" By the "Short-hairs"
125 $ очень дорого !
Народ сам колхозит.
"..more extravagant..""..mainly Snap-On.."Typical Goldwing owner-speak.How about using the factory tool kit for the demonstration.
Well the last time I looked at my factory tool kit, it didn't come with ratchets, sockets and extensions! Let alone tin snips! You must own a Harley!
I'm not a movie star or salesman. I did the best I could. I will say that you know little about factory tool sets if you think Honda supplies everything you need.