RIP to Dikembe Mutombo. On Derrick Rose, I feel like he should be in the Hall. I know his star didn't burn bright for too long, but he was incredible. He deserves his flowers and deserve induction into the Hall for that, man. You can't tell the story of the NBA without D-Rose.
Fun fact: the person who finished second in MVP voting behind D-Rose was none other than Dwight Howard, who also won his third consecutive Defensive Player of the Year.
Per Derrick Rose (about that Miami series): “losing Omer Asik was big. Miami had a problem when we had him paired with Jo and Kurt Thomas. We could play them tougher, and Omer really had verticality that gave them trouble. He got hurt in the third game and that was huge. Played every game that season until then and then he’s out. Again, injuries. We really were closer than anyone believed. And they knew it. We felt they knew we were the team they weren’t going to intimidate.” Excerpt From: “I'll Show You” by Derrick Rose
Rose was incredible, but even in this video you can see those landings are knee suicide. If someone could have fixed his mechanics in college, he might have been spared such catastrophic injuries.
His running mechanics weren’t great either. Plus his style of play involved a ton of speed/direction changes. Just in general tough on his body, Kyrie moves similarly, and he is also injury prone
R.I.P Dikembe Mutombo ☝ This 2011 will still be special for me... i am from germany, so he never had the possibilty to watch NBA, but i remeber getting a chicago bulls hat when i was like 4-5 years old, so about 1998-1999... then getting NBA Live 06, but never even watched NBA Basketball back then, still always chose the Bulls... and 2010 i bought NBA 2k11 for the PSP, since i started to watch Highlights and sometimes live games online, and Derrick Rose killed it, i was in awe just watching him... also starting up the game, the Song "Shutterbug" by Big Boi coming up and went on to play with Rose and the Bulls. Core Memory for me, what a great player he was, even after his heartbreaking injury
Derrick Rose had a similar career to the late great Bill Walton. Both won mvps, participated in the all star game and were all nba level players, but their careers were riddled with injuries. By their late 20's they had become role players when typically they should be in their prime form. The only difference between them is that Bill Walton has two championship rings. He won his first when he was a superstar in Portland and his second when he was the 6th man off the bench for the 86 Boston Celtics. For Rose's case he had significant impact on the City of Chiacgo because they didn't have much success after MJ retired. He helped the Bulls win 60+ games in the reagular season and brought them to their first confernce finals apperance since 1998. In conclusion, i think Derrick Rose should get in to the HOF as well as get his jersey retired by the Bulls.
There is an uncomfortable similarity of Derrick Rose's career path, to that of Ben Simmons, given that they both peaked at 22. One huge difference is that this man gave his all to the game of basketball and his body failed him, and the other man's mindset failed him.
Also that Derrick rose got hurt before load management. Had he just rested he could’ve came back like other players, I would’ve let a year or even two go of it meant he returned healthy
@@Alx1116a lot of people say that thibs should’ve subbed him out, but i honestly think with the way he landed after jumping, the injury was a matter of time regardless of thibs keeping him in the game or not
@@XGh0sT77 Agreed. The way the Sixers played us in the regular season that year, if D-Rose gets subbed out, they would've made a comeback and possibly won game 1. D-Rose's playstyle and his poor landing is what got him injured. He often landed on 1 leg after a lot of these plays, and that always scared me leading up to the torn ACL.
Love both of your introspection into everything you all put out and the conversation it creates back and forth. Thank you for the amazing NBA content!!!
Hey guys thank you again for posting a video. Still rough out here in South Georgia because of the Helena. You guys are making it a little easier for me
Can you do the 2001 76ers The 2000-2024 knicks lol The lockout seasons Jordan In Washington & just some good & bad teams from the early 2000-2010s Also some good draft classes & bad ones lol Love your videos & commentary 🤣😂
I was talking about this in my homie at work, but he might be the first MVP to not make the Hall of Fame! That's so upsetting he meant so much to me in my high school years I was junior in his MVP run and I got made fun of cuz I would wear his jersey for every dress down day (out of uniform day). What a career all the comebacks I just hope he doesn't get lost in the pages of history
1x MVP 3x All Star 1x All NBA ROY 2x FIBA WC Gold Medal 12k Career Points Resume is underwhelming for a 1st ballot HOF, but I believe eventually in the future D Rose will get inducted in the HOF
That MVP award will probably get him into the HOF. Not first ballot but he had a decent career during his prime so he'll likely get in after 5-10 years.
Stop it. Rose was in his early 20s playing 37 minutes a night. That's completely normal for a young guy and he should've been able to handle it. The problem is Rose relied almost entirely on his explosiveness and he was landing awful so many times. At some point, the player has to fix his own mechanics to extend his career. It's the playstyle. Wade went through the same thing because he also played like that. Conversely, you see guys like LeBron were out there playing even higher minutes and were not injured. Kobe from age 27 to 32 was playing 80 games 38 minutes or 40 minutes a night, going to the finals often, and he was ok. Stockton is another big one who played 80 games a season on high minutes and didn't get injured. You just can't be out there exploding into the lane like Rose and landing all awkward night after night expecting your knees can just take that. It's why Zion and Ja have problematic playstyles... it's that same shi*.
I'm not a Bulls fan but to this day I'm still so pissed that Tom Thibodeau had Derrick Rose in the 4th quarter in game 1 of the 2012 eastern playoffs first round against the 76ers. I get that he wanted to "send a message" to the 76ers because they said that they were glad they got the Bulls and not the Heat, but that game was already won. If Thibodeau just sat Derrick Rose out at the end of the 3rd going into the 4th, the Bulls still would've won the game and the series, then maybe Derrick Rose never gets hurt.
No HOF. Never even made a finals. His peak was extremely short and most would agree he didn't deserve his MVP. He never made a serious impact elsewhere after, nor did he do anything crazy in college international He's a legend for sure but just doesn't have the resume
Bullshit. He absolutely deserved that MVP. And he couldn't make a serious impact anywhere else because he was not the same player, and he was put into some pretty lousy situations.
@@urbaindelva7869 also, injuries aint no excuse. The only similar case I can think of is Bill Walton, but he had a dominant championship run and was a contributor to a championship later his career, along with a legendary college career Rose just don't got the resume. I love him, he's one of a kind but also inspired people like Ja, but the HOF is not justified
I think the next team retrospective should be titled: "The rise and fall...and rise(again) and fall(again)...and maybe rise(again)...of the Brookyln Nets"
Guys, it's the BASKETBALL Hall of Fame, the not the NBA Hall of Fame. They take your entire overall career into account. To answer the question, no, Rose should not go into the HOF. That MVP does wonders for him, but his resumé is just lacking damn near everything it takes to get into the HOF. Ngl, I was a hater of D-Rose because I was a LeBron fan and I thought that he was robbed. In the following years, I looked back at that season and eventually admitted that he damn sure deserved it. He was definitely on the verge of a terrific legacy, but obviously, the injuries decided it not to be. However, considering his play style at the time, the injuries were bound to happen at some point in hindsight, which Rose himself admitted. He only played 39 games in the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season, which should've been a harbinger of things to come. Nonetheless, Rose stuck it out until the end despite all of his struggles, which deserves the utmost respect. May God be with him and his family as he enters a new chapter.
RIP to Dikembe Mutombo.
On Derrick Rose, I feel like he should be in the Hall. I know his star didn't burn bright for too long, but he was incredible. He deserves his flowers and deserve induction into the Hall for that, man. You can't tell the story of the NBA without D-Rose.
Aww man, I found out Dikembe's passing through this comment. Rest in Peace.
@@nousername1524I just read about it, too. I didn't even know that he was sick. God love his soul.
Eh, no. He should not be in the HOF. He should not be inducted because of one amazing season.
Zip up your pants after your done
I can't believe this is really how I found out
Rip dikembe mutombo.
"Why not? Why can't I be the MVP of the league? Why can't I be the best player in the league?" - Derrick Rose
Fun fact: the person who finished second in MVP voting behind D-Rose was none other than Dwight Howard, who also won his third consecutive Defensive Player of the Year.
Man Dwight was filthy. They forget just how awe inspiring and amazing his play was.
Can you do a retrospective on the jhon wall bradley beal wizards that team was so fun!
Yes!!!
As a wizards fan they weren’t special at all. We are just so inclined to a terrible franchise that having a mid team those years felt good to you.
@@NZbo-.-.-614true but they were fun. That team with wall Beal nene and gortat were solid.
@@NZbo-.-.-614or its just a cool duo that was fun
@@NZbo-.-.-614and interesting to listen about . No one outside of wizards fans remember their depth chart
Per Derrick Rose (about that Miami series): “losing Omer Asik was big. Miami had a problem when we had him paired with Jo and Kurt Thomas. We could play them tougher, and Omer really had verticality that gave them trouble. He got hurt in the third game and that was huge. Played every game that season until then and then he’s out. Again, injuries. We really were closer than anyone believed. And they knew it. We felt they knew we were the team they weren’t going to intimidate.”
Excerpt From: “I'll Show You” by Derrick Rose
Rose was incredible, but even in this video you can see those landings are knee suicide. If someone could have fixed his mechanics in college, he might have been spared such catastrophic injuries.
Seriously all that force coming down on one leg
His running mechanics weren’t great either. Plus his style of play involved a ton of speed/direction changes. Just in general tough on his body, Kyrie moves similarly, and he is also injury prone
R.I.P Dikembe Mutombo ☝
This 2011 will still be special for me... i am from germany, so he never had the possibilty to watch NBA, but i remeber getting a chicago bulls hat when i was like 4-5 years old, so about 1998-1999... then getting NBA Live 06, but never even watched NBA Basketball back then, still always chose the Bulls... and 2010 i bought NBA 2k11 for the PSP, since i started to watch Highlights and sometimes live games online, and Derrick Rose killed it, i was in awe just watching him... also starting up the game, the Song "Shutterbug" by Big Boi coming up and went on to play with Rose and the Bulls.
Core Memory for me, what a great player he was, even after his heartbreaking injury
RIP Mutumbo
BEEN WAITING FOR A D ROSE VIDEO FROM YALL SINCE I FOUND YALLS CHANNEL. THANK YOU AND REST IN PEACE MUTUMBO❤
RIP dikembe 😢
Derrick Rose had a similar career to the late great Bill Walton. Both won mvps, participated in the all star game and were all nba level players, but their careers were riddled with injuries. By their late 20's they had become role players when typically they should be in their prime form. The only difference between them is that Bill Walton has two championship rings. He won his first when he was a superstar in Portland and his second when he was the 6th man off the bench for the 86 Boston Celtics. For Rose's case he had significant impact on the City of Chiacgo because they didn't have much success after MJ retired. He helped the Bulls win 60+ games in the reagular season and brought them to their first confernce finals apperance since 1998. In conclusion, i think Derrick Rose should get in to the HOF as well as get his jersey retired by the Bulls.
As a Bulls fan thank you for this ❤️. Also R.I.P. Dikembe
Case in point, I'd rather have the Honda Civic or any normal car for longevity reasons.
How long did boozer play for? (I’m a causal)
@@lumosity5163 13 years
RIP Dikembe Mutombo
It is a story of never giving up, no mattet how bad the circumstances are. He really taught us that.
MVP DRose was a monster and he dominated the league with his speed and monster dunks
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i wake up everyday, waiting for a synthetic sports video
Sad! You ain't missing much
There is an uncomfortable similarity of Derrick Rose's career path, to that of Ben Simmons, given that they both peaked at 22. One huge difference is that this man gave his all to the game of basketball and his body failed him, and the other man's mindset failed him.
Also that Derrick rose got hurt before load management. Had he just rested he could’ve came back like other players, I would’ve let a year or even two go of it meant he returned healthy
@@Alx1116a lot of people say that thibs should’ve subbed him out, but i honestly think with the way he landed after jumping, the injury was a matter of time regardless of thibs keeping him in the game or not
Well said man
@@XGh0sT77 Agreed. The way the Sixers played us in the regular season that year, if D-Rose gets subbed out, they would've made a comeback and possibly won game 1. D-Rose's playstyle and his poor landing is what got him injured. He often landed on 1 leg after a lot of these plays, and that always scared me leading up to the torn ACL.
Love yalls long form videos especially retrospectives. Can we get a 04 piston vid 👀
Now you should do a video about Mutambo imo...
They def should, especially since he has such a long career ❤
You just had to be there to see it live. What he was doing was incredible, that one poster dunk he had vs the heat in the playoffs was insane
That up and under layup he did was so good. One of the coolest signature moves that you could do in the parks
He was the reason I started to watch the nba and get really into basketball
RIP Mutombo yes D rose its hall of fame
I do really admire rose for continuing his nba career after the various injuries he suffered
Watching after escaping WNC and the hurricane, the grind never stops
Love both of your introspection into everything you all put out and the conversation it creates back and forth. Thank you for the amazing NBA content!!!
Hey guys thank you again for posting a video. Still rough out here in South Georgia because of the Helena. You guys are making it a little easier for me
RIP Dikembe Mutombo 💔💔😭😭😭
RIP Dikembe
RIP dikembe mutombo🕊️
The best video ever created!! Keep up the hard work!!
We're gonna need the Dikembe Mutumbo retrospective next, boys.
There is no NBA HOF. ITS THE BASKETBALL HOF that’s why so many get in
This was my first year watching the nba drose was special🥀
The biggest what if in NBA history imo🌹 Hope he enjoys retirement
He was the main reason I got into the NBA.
Dikembe retrospective next
Back when the bulls were good in NBA2K
Will you guys be making a video about Dikembe Mutombo?
Finally the grizzlies are ready to go and now he's gone 😭
such a shame too. never got a chance to see rose and morant work together, and maybe rose couldve mentored ja into something special.
Can you do the 2001 76ers
The 2000-2024 knicks lol
The lockout seasons
Jordan In Washington
& just some good & bad teams from the early 2000-2010s
Also some good draft classes & bad ones lol
Love your videos & commentary 🤣😂
crazy he still had a good career after all those injuries
You should definitely do a video on Rondo and the insane stats he would put up
You should make a Kobe retrospective video
Love the video as always but I would say the first scoring PG as we see today was Gilbert Arenas the Hibachi.
"westbrook had an all-time lay up package" hahahahahahahahahaahahah
I was talking about this in my homie at work, but he might be the first MVP to not make the Hall of Fame! That's so upsetting he meant so much to me in my high school years I was junior in his MVP run and I got made fun of cuz I would wear his jersey for every dress down day (out of uniform day). What a career all the comebacks I just hope he doesn't get lost in the pages of history
You must've had a shitty high school year if that BUM was who you looked up to
That's really it for d-rose
Yall like Charmin
Need that retrospective on the Drose Bulls era and how they never won a ring.
9:00 i fucking loved the NBA awards show when I was younger, don’t hate!
You guys better do a dikembe mutombo video☝🏿
rip dikembe mutombo
1x MVP
3x All Star
1x All NBA
ROY
2x FIBA WC Gold Medal
12k Career Points
Resume is underwhelming for a 1st ballot HOF, but I believe eventually in the future D Rose will get inducted in the HOF
Id rather have a Civic that lasts me 20 years then a Lambo that only lasts 1….
So by your logic you rather not have prime lebron on your team then.
@@moisesrodriguez3685 aint no way you are that stupid
@@moisesrodriguez3685No LeBron is a Honda
@@Grindingallday Nice troll
@@Grindingalldaylebron is a lambo that lasts 30 years lmfao
Rest in paradise, Mount Mutombo
That MVP award will probably get him into the HOF. Not first ballot but he had a decent career during his prime so he'll likely get in after 5-10 years.
Should of showed that two handed dunk on goran dragic.. nasty stuff😊
Synthetic Sports... ACKNOWLEDGE ME
More retrospective pls
Rose, Wade, LeBron, Deng and Noah. Even with atrocious spacing, this team would be a defensive juggernaut. They would be winning games 50-35 😂
Are you guys going to be doing a video about what all happened that led to that Knicks-Wolves blockbuster trade that happened last Friday night?
The only time we’ve been relevant post MJ 😞
The biggest NBA What If in the 21st century history imo
Balling on these (fellas) like I'm derrick rose!
Love d rose, similar to kobe in his coldblooded attitude and lack of understanding of the word "consent"
HOF. MVP. ROSE.
I love you both
It's saddening
crazy
Rip Dikembe
Derrick rose was the most athletic and had the most speed in the nba.
He was faster and jumped higher
Chicago should give him a 1 month contract during the NBA Cup, and play like hell to get D-Rose a "title" before he retires. Please GOD 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
MVP my ass
Keep hating
I love yall mane😂
It’s not the NBA Hall of Fame. It’s the basketball hall of fame where your whole career is measured from college to the NBA and overseas.
KAT WOLVES TENURE RETROSPECTIVE PLEASEEE ALSO RIP TO DIKIMBE MUTOMBO
Thibs is the reason for a lot of peoples injuries even with the knicks this season expect a major injury
Stop it. Rose was in his early 20s playing 37 minutes a night. That's completely normal for a young guy and he should've been able to handle it. The problem is Rose relied almost entirely on his explosiveness and he was landing awful so many times. At some point, the player has to fix his own mechanics to extend his career.
It's the playstyle. Wade went through the same thing because he also played like that. Conversely, you see guys like LeBron were out there playing even higher minutes and were not injured. Kobe from age 27 to 32 was playing 80 games 38 minutes or 40 minutes a night, going to the finals often, and he was ok. Stockton is another big one who played 80 games a season on high minutes and didn't get injured. You just can't be out there exploding into the lane like Rose and landing all awkward night after night expecting your knees can just take that. It's why Zion and Ja have problematic playstyles... it's that same shi*.
It’s not called the nba hall of fame it’s called the basketball hall of fame
Can yall plz make a video about the rockets winning a championship while being the lowest seed to ever do so
RIP MUTOMBO
ASSUMING THAT WILL BE THE NEXT VIDEO THIS WEEK
scoring point guard? This is Tony parker.
The only man LeBron James feared at full strength
I'm not a Bulls fan but to this day I'm still so pissed that Tom Thibodeau had Derrick Rose in the 4th quarter in game 1 of the 2012 eastern playoffs first round against the 76ers. I get that he wanted to "send a message" to the 76ers because they said that they were glad they got the Bulls and not the Heat, but that game was already won. If Thibodeau just sat Derrick Rose out at the end of the 3rd going into the 4th, the Bulls still would've won the game and the series, then maybe Derrick Rose never gets hurt.
He would have hurt himself later regardless.
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No HOF. Never even made a finals. His peak was extremely short and most would agree he didn't deserve his MVP. He never made a serious impact elsewhere after, nor did he do anything crazy in college international
He's a legend for sure but just doesn't have the resume
Bullshit. He absolutely deserved that MVP. And he couldn't make a serious impact anywhere else because he was not the same player, and he was put into some pretty lousy situations.
@@urbaindelva7869 Bron had better numbers basically across the board and played better defense on a team that won 4 less games
@@urbaindelva7869 also, injuries aint no excuse. The only similar case I can think of is Bill Walton, but he had a dominant championship run and was a contributor to a championship later his career, along with a legendary college career
Rose just don't got the resume. I love him, he's one of a kind but also inspired people like Ja, but the HOF is not justified
If Chauncey Billups got in, Drose can get in
Dwight should have won this MvP
Sorry But No
It’s actually the basketball hall of fame. The nba hall of fame doesn’t exist
And Isaiah Thomas and the Boston Celtics
I think the next team retrospective should be titled: "The rise and fall...and rise(again) and fall(again)...and maybe rise(again)...of the Brookyln Nets"
cool
Day 23 of asking for wwe content
2001 rigged Eastern conference finals retrospective or bucks rebuild 2011-21
Dikembe Mutombo just died 😢
😂
@@JohnWatson-b3ywhat’s funny?
This is just sad
Guys, it's the BASKETBALL Hall of Fame, the not the NBA Hall of Fame. They take your entire overall career into account. To answer the question, no, Rose should not go into the HOF. That MVP does wonders for him, but his resumé is just lacking damn near everything it takes to get into the HOF.
Ngl, I was a hater of D-Rose because I was a LeBron fan and I thought that he was robbed. In the following years, I looked back at that season and eventually admitted that he damn sure deserved it. He was definitely on the verge of a terrific legacy, but obviously, the injuries decided it not to be. However, considering his play style at the time, the injuries were bound to happen at some point in hindsight, which Rose himself admitted. He only played 39 games in the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season, which should've been a harbinger of things to come. Nonetheless, Rose stuck it out until the end despite all of his struggles, which deserves the utmost respect. May God be with him and his family as he enters a new chapter.