The state never proved He convinced them to do it. But he never physically killed anybody. Otherwise he would have gotten the death penalty. the whole trial was a sham. I watched All the footage from interviews from him and the people that were involved in the trial.He didn't get a fair shake
@@robertdoss7846 There are people who believe that he was part of the m k ultra experiments. If there isn't any time issues with It's either. Because apparently he was let go early one time right around that time.After he got a visit from a stranger
Well everyone fakes it for clout or attention I think that true psychos are the ones that think that there innocent in the things they do and even kill like a butcher to a pig meat that's made to be cut somebody that dose not fantases the word or movie ideas of crazy
Why in the world are you supposed to get along with them? Who told you that nonsense? Can’t believe everything you hear. You don’t get along with psychos silly you stay away from them
Y’all think you’re so far ahead because society gives you that illusion. Illusion of knowledge and all that crap. Illusion of right. Pointing fingers but never the solution
NO ONE ever said he KILLED anyone. It's just that, since he PLANNED the murders, as soon as someone from his group kills someone from his plan, he AND the killer are BOTH guilty of first-degree murder. The one who plans the murder is at least as guilty as the one who commits it.
I’m right there with you, Bruce! To be honest, after seeing what the media does to people, specially Trump, these days, they could ruin somebody! People just wrote them off as just a murderer! I do think he had some mental issues, etc. but I don’t think he was dangerous at all! I think he was just a loudmouth to be honest with you. I don’t even think he’s smart enough to organize something Like that, and if you were, he probably wouldn’t even of gotten caught if he was that organized with sending people to do things like that. It seems like the media painted him what they wanted him to be. I do believe him to be honest with you!unlike people like “Darrell Brooks” etc.
I used to write him off as crazy and evil.....but over the years I've started to understand him a lot better. I'm not saying he's a good guy, but I think he was given more evil clout than he had earned, by far.
"Look, having nuclear - my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart - you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - it’s true! - but when you're a conservative Republican they try - oh, do they do a number - that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune - you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged - but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me - it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are - nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? - but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners - now it used to be three, now it’s four - but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years - but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
@swizzlegrower Would not won't you on my jury. Easily persuaded and believe everything convicted criminals and murderers tell you. So yeah, there's that.
@@nicholemaccalley9462 Crazy is when someone is not right in the head, but does not do evil upon others. There are crazy people that don't harm others. Evil is pretty much the definition of the Devil and we all know how this plays out.
@@vainglory-matei1067 you know spelling in english are kinda stupid and you know that. By the way you still can read this ( "According to a rsceeahr at Cgimabdre Uitsnveiry, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.") peace
I watch Charles Manson interviews since I was a kid. I didn't have an interest in him but in true crime documentaries and shows. Truthfully, I used to find his act boring. ...and it is an act, some of it. He stated as much. It wasn't until recently that I actually listened to the man and realized "....this man is as close to enlightened as any other person alive. He is more aware of the existential facts of his existence than most will ever have! That's why most, myself included, didn't get what he was saying. I just wasn't smart enough." Understand, btw, that when I say "enlightened", I don't mean "having some kind of knowledge about the universe and has surpassed the suffering of the human condition via some mystical means." I mean: he is aware of the truth of reality and can easily see through the facade that is society. He knows that each individual is a subjective point of view and, thus, they (we) all live in our own personal worlds (our conscious experience of reality, also called qualia).. that, while it may seem counterintuitive, morality is subjective each person has their own moral beliefs. He recognizes that his view of the world is different than the majority of others and that the way he views the world contain many incongruities with the the way society dictates we act (in other words: he sees that he has, essentially, anti-social personality disorder, as it would be called... and that his behavior isn't pro-social. Society has laws....laws, btw, that find people guilty or not guilty. Not innocent or morally just.... just guilty or not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Those are the rules we have to follow Iif we want to continue to participate and benefit from society. He knows he has spent so much time in institutions, that he is unable to live within those social constraints). That ☝ takes a lot of self-awareness, which takes a lot of introspection. Most people don't put the time in to reach such a mentality and, often times, those that try find it hard to believe that they are the only ones that can control how they experince reality and they go back to social behavior without much awareness of their actions or thoughts. After watching more about this case, it seems clear that Manson and the women being held still.... are now political prisoners. One of the women involved actually got paroled more than once (so, the parole board said she shouldn't be locked up) but... the governor overturned the ruling and she was sent back to jail. If the jail say "this person is no longer a risk to society" and the jail is a corrections facility where rehabilitation is the goal.... then the jail is saying the person is rehabilitated adequately enough to have earned their freedom. They are more likely to be beneficial to society than harmful. .....and when a person with no background in law or rehabilitation is elected into a position of political power...and overturns a ruling made by experts... because of _reasons_ .... its more than fair to say that the prisoner is a political prisoner and not jailed because they are a threat. That is, frankly, disgusting. It's amazing what the media and politicians can do to a person's life. The death penalty is, let's be real here: revenge killing. The law is what sets the limits for punishment when it comes to crimes. A judge determines, based on the case, the appropriate punishment but they have to remain in the confines of the law. The jury merely says "guilty" or "not guilty". They can recommend a sentence but it's the law and the judge that make that final decision..... .....except when it comes to the death penalty. That's the only punishment that a jury can and has to impose. People who aren't trained in the law, not trained in the philosophies regarding morality... they are just people. They don't (cant) have ties to the crime if they are on the jury. Thus, they aren't actually involved in the crime and endured no real suffering due to the crime committed. Yet... its this same group of people that make the choice to have the state revenge kill a criminal. 🤦♂️ If you research it, you will find that a death sentence opens the door to the criminal being set free (they get numerous appeals and if one of those goes poorly, the whole case could be thrown out. it's happened before). It costs the tax payers a ton of money.... but, most importantly, is what you end up learning about the victim's families: Most regret the sentence (for many reasons), mostly because of the numerous appeals that they have to go through. They worst day of the victim's life being re-lived in court during the initial trial is brutal for the victims and their families. If the death penalty is sentenced, they get to go through that horror at every appeal hearing, wondering 'what if *this* trial is a mistrial and the killer gets off?' Moreover, if you research it (im saying thay because I want you to not take my word for it and do the research yourself. Without actually considering and learning what the victim's families have said about the experience makes your subjective opinion far less valid) you will find something I found a bit shocking....a lot of the families were either against the sentence *before and during* the trials but their opinions didn't matter. What this means, in reality, this that death penalty cases are not about the families or justice for the victims. Instead, it's all about the state doing what the jury, who represents the state's people in court, want done....regardless of how the victim's families feel. Many families that did support the sentence... said that afterwards, they felt no more closure than before. They, instead, realized that the killer had a family too and now, their family (who didn't do anything wrong) gets to feel the same horrific feeling the victim's families feel. If your loved one is killed, do you feel like the moral answer is to execute the killer and cause their family to suffer too? Morality, to you, is to spread suffering? ...to treat people, not how you *want to be treated* but *treating them in the same way you've been treated* ...? That's revenge... not justice. 👍 If that is honestly how you feel, then why not just allow the state the right to let family members of a victim of homicide go out and hunt the killer down themselves. Why not let the family do the revenge killing? ....then, explain to the class why "the state killing a killer" is moral and should be legal but "a gang member killing the person who killed their loved one" is illegal and considered murder? Why is one considered 'justice' while the other is considered 'a gang related hit', aka premeditated murder? Turns out , a lot of families don't feel so great after having a revenge killing carried out in their 'honor', like they were a mobster's family. ...and when their opinion is ignored, then you literally have a "mob rules" situation. Whatever the mob of people want, the state will do and 'legally' have their hands clean of any wrong doing. Can you think of another case where a person was killed due to mob mentality? Was that, in your opinion, "justice and the proper way for a functional society to behave"?
He'd spent half his life in prison. His mother traded him for a beer when he was a kid. Tiny 5' 2" was easy prey in prison so his hubrus and hyperbole were defense mechanisms.
He was a little smarter than average.120 IQ? If you were in school with him growing up he never would have been the smartest kid in class. He would be a little above the middle.
The buck never stopped with him, but some nickels & dimes did. In some cars with prostitutes. He really sounds like a cross between a politician and a lawyer.
If that is his rap sheet, he is a moron because there is a glaring lie on it that a paralegal student would spot right away. He unwittingly included an offense with an automatic 25 year sentence.
@@TheLunarSurfaceI feel like I'm talking to kids, do you think the person who ordered the murder isn't also going to spend his days in jail? it was the one who ordered the massacre of the actress Sharon Tate and her friends and this in the latter's house in 1969, I doubt that you know this actress and this story since you are still a kid but there you go, I tell you
What is messed up if you know this man you know what he's about but he just looks like any other homeless person but I seen a lot of homeless people that are more destruct and this man God bless America
Dude killed nobody. They literally rushed through laws to charge him while the trial was already going on. How the fuck are the government allowed to change the rules and move the goal post mid game?
This ladies and gentlemen is the perfect liar. He lies so easily that even a lie detector wouldn’t catch him. Just because someone is a good liar doesn’t mean they are telling the truth. Be careful of people like this. Watch and observe your surroundings. It could be anyone
Yes, that's true. They didn't get how that part was possible but it wasn't him, it was him being taught by CIA ppl which didn't come out till much later. Still, after him having this amazing control over these ppl he then made the stupidest legal mistake imaginable. He thought that if he didnt show up the night of the murders he would be innocent since he didn't physically kill anyone. But PLANNING a murder that actually happens locks you into first-degree murder. He planned multiple murders, created murderers from ppl who had never killed anyone before and cultivated them over time. He put ALL THAT effort into the death of these ppl and thought he would still be innocent. Instead, they were all charged with death sentences that they slipped out of since callifornis was actually repealing it at the time of the trial.
Honestly iv always thought he was putting on a show.. to me he's no big deal at all.. what'd he do besides drugs and live on street. Just giving what the people wanted.
Right. I don't know why but some ppl easily see through most it and some ppl just go completely with his words. When he says "I'll murder you all!" or whatever, Dude! you weigh 100 pounds wet and you've never been athletic at all!" He also gave a lot of drugs away to inmates on a regular basis to leave him alone.
120 IQ is nowhere near genuis. Did he,, himself, believe that NOT KILLING anyone, himself meant NO MURDER CONVICTION??? I have NEVER considered that till right now. If so, this guy was SUCH a MORON. WOW! FYI, yes, he was EASILY convicted of 7 COUNTS OF MURDER. He could have done MUCH, MUCH less and still been easily within the definition of MURDER.
I can see how people fell under his spell. He isn’t wrong in saying he was thrown away, jailed etc..he found a way to be something. Unfortunately others did his bidding, which was revengeful and evil. He did not to our knowledge kill anyone.
Knew someone whos dad spent a night in a cell with him. He said he was shorter than he thought he'd be, and that his eyes were unsettling to look into.
Ain't no hell man. He just does not exist anymore. Whatever 'he' had to experience, he already did here. There's no concept of 'he' anymore, much less suffering.
The fact that he thought Scientology was too crazy for him says everything about Scientology
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When u put all ur points into charisma
Well most Scorpios have charisma including myself
@@cheesecakelovesnxt9107lol cringe
@@jake-qn3tl it’s not cringe it’s Deez Nuts
Couldn't have put it better.
@@cheesecakelovesnxt9107bruh
The thing is, he's been completely honest about his involvement in the murders. He's never killed anybody, he's always had his people do that.
And he ordered them to do it all. Why are y’all so brainwashed?
The state never proved He convinced them to do it. But he never physically killed anybody. Otherwise he would have gotten the death penalty. the whole trial was a sham. I watched All the footage from interviews from him and the people that were involved in the trial.He didn't get a fair shake
The mob does that too... no sender no m*rder
That’s what he says in the interview with him Geraldo Rivera. He never had a fair trial.
@@robertdoss7846 There are people who believe that he was part of the m k ultra experiments. If there isn't any time issues with It's either. Because apparently he was let go early one time right around that time.After he got a visit from a stranger
That last line was cold asf!
Loved that quote. Tbh
It's cold but dumb cause he has no followers and can't do shit himself from prison lol he couldn't even kill everyone in the prison lol
If you think this cold you have no future 😂
He’s just a clown, not capable of anything
@@imafooo - If you only knew
Back in my day crazy used to mean something, now everybody's crazy!
Now you have guys who’ve done worse than him on every corner lol
@Monstersmaker just saw that post. How many people know that's a quote from Charlie?
This guy is not crazy, is evil.And is extremely smart.
@@ewrgaming That's throughout all of history
Well everyone fakes it for clout or attention I think that true psychos are the ones that think that there innocent in the things they do and even kill like a butcher to a pig meat that's made to be cut somebody that dose not fantases the word or movie ideas of crazy
The scariest part is that they're crazier people out there and we are supposed to go along with them
Why in the world are you supposed to get along with them? Who told you that nonsense? Can’t believe everything you hear. You don’t get along with psychos silly you stay away from them
What I'm saying is watch the news all the crazy people get catered to
@@NickPalmer-vj6by can’t stay away from the psychos bc the psychos keep re-electing fellow psychos
Since you are the one to tell society who’s ill. You’re preaching killing these guys without saying it. Fuck your books
Y’all think you’re so far ahead because society gives you that illusion. Illusion of knowledge and all that crap. Illusion of right.
Pointing fingers but never the solution
That ending though.
No doubt 😂
Chilling.
Absolutely vril, i can feel the vril resonating from him
@@Bigdumbidiotguylmao wtf is that pfp
Dude was pure evil
The more I watch him the more I believe him
NO ONE ever said he KILLED anyone. It's just that, since he PLANNED the murders, as soon as someone from his group kills someone from his plan, he AND the killer are BOTH guilty of first-degree murder. The one who plans the murder is at least as guilty as the one who commits it.
I’m right there with you, Bruce! To be honest, after seeing what the media does to people, specially Trump, these days, they could ruin somebody! People just wrote them off as just a murderer! I do think he had some mental issues, etc. but I don’t think he was dangerous at all! I think he was just a loudmouth to be honest with you. I don’t even think he’s smart enough to organize something Like that, and if you were, he probably wouldn’t even of gotten caught if he was that organized with sending people to do things like that. It seems like the media painted him what they wanted him to be. I do believe him to be honest with you!unlike people like “Darrell Brooks” etc.
I used to write him off as crazy and evil.....but over the years I've started to understand him a lot better. I'm not saying he's a good guy, but I think he was given more evil clout than he had earned, by far.
I love him and I wasn't even born yet. I've got lots of his stuff
That's Trump's influence
Manson: I'm not crazy
The world : but we are
Speaks more clear that some Presidents
"Look, having nuclear - my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart - you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - it’s true! - but when you're a conservative Republican they try - oh, do they do a number - that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune - you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged - but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me - it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are - nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? - but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners - now it used to be three, now it’s four - but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years - but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
^It’s unfortunate how right you are
Aside from him ordering to kill random people based on a fucking Beatles song
That says more about you than it does about him.. but it's just like a Trump supporter to be attracted to cult leaders
He didn’t realize it’s not just about the action itself, it’s also about the intention behind it, and who intended it to happen.
This man was railroaded and the entire world played along. Say what you will at the end of the day he killed no one.
should have been a free man... i would love him as a neighbor
@@randocommando6826yeah this way he could convince you to kill your family
He ordered and was at the scene according to many convicted murderers ....so there is that
He was just plain scary. He ordered the killing of all those innocent people. Innocent men don't hide when the cops come looking for you.
@swizzlegrower Would not won't you on my jury. Easily persuaded and believe everything convicted criminals and murderers tell you.
So yeah, there's that.
This day and time he would be teaching at Harvard if the CIA would leave him alone.
You mean Jews not the CIA
He’s a phenomenal actor!
He's a EVIL man
Definitely 💯
Nope. Just speaks truth
"i think it"
Same Charlie, same 😂
I just saw a comment that read “Charlie is not crazy, he is evil and a very smart man”. I think that sums him up whether people like it or not.
What’s the difference between crazy and evil?
@@nicholemaccalley9462 Crazy is when someone is not right in the head, but does not do evil upon others. There are crazy people that don't harm others. Evil is pretty much the definition of the Devil and we all know how this plays out.
Wish my trips turned me like this😂
he once sounded insane. now? ..I understand
still nuts
I get it 😮
He's fucking nuts
- his victims
Look where we've been the last 8 years
God bless all who read this
He actually never killed anyone, he just sent them to another dimension!
"I've been with prostitutes, bums, and winos all my life" 😂
Hey! Who hasn't?
Welcome to America 😂
@@lolo2goodland of “Christian” values 😂
😂😂😂
He's a hypnotist, very dangerous trust and believe he's not lying "I think it" "I don't need to kill anyone" I'll have them do it for me xD
He's telling truth about himself,he hasent killed anyone
This guys the main character in the movie 😂
charlie for president
Absolutely 100 💯 percent
He sounds so wise and he knows what is important in this life and probably even more in the next life
His words hits hard today
Makes more sense than the current USA head of state.
He makes more sense than the last two
@@kimdurig1322no just the ☝️ we currently have in office
@kimdurig1322 questionable, but I wholeheartedly agree that he makes more sense than the current one,
He was charismatic... like Trump is charismatic
It's just an honest mind..... everyone else is just scared.
He wrote a song for "Guns and Roses".
dude makes sence to me
Sense
He ordered his followers to kill people. Enough said.
Since
Sounds like me when I have a few drinks and a puff thinking about things.
2 of the most frightening thing is , A loonatic that makes no sence & a loonatic that makes perfect sence 😮
The third is someone who cant write a sentence without mis spelling everything
@@vainglory-matei1067 you know spelling in english are kinda stupid and you know that. By the way you still can read this ( "According to a rsceeahr at Cgimabdre Uitsnveiry, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.") peace
@@vainglory-matei1067😂 yup
Lunatic* sense* there you go buddy
👍🏻
Exactly he's being dead honest
Dayum.... Crazy Mic Drop 😵💫🎤
I watch Charles Manson interviews since I was a kid. I didn't have an interest in him but in true crime documentaries and shows. Truthfully, I used to find his act boring.
...and it is an act, some of it. He stated as much.
It wasn't until recently that I actually listened to the man and realized "....this man is as close to enlightened as any other person alive. He is more aware of the existential facts of his existence than most will ever have! That's why most, myself included, didn't get what he was saying. I just wasn't smart enough."
Understand, btw, that when I say "enlightened", I don't mean "having some kind of knowledge about the universe and has surpassed the suffering of the human condition via some mystical means." I mean: he is aware of the truth of reality and can easily see through the facade that is society. He knows that each individual is a subjective point of view and, thus, they (we) all live in our own personal worlds (our conscious experience of reality, also called qualia)..
that, while it may seem counterintuitive, morality is subjective each person has their own moral beliefs. He recognizes that his view of the world is different than the majority of others and that the way he views the world contain many incongruities with the the way society dictates we act (in other words: he sees that he has, essentially, anti-social personality disorder, as it would be called... and that his behavior isn't pro-social. Society has laws....laws, btw, that find people guilty or not guilty. Not innocent or morally just.... just guilty or not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Those are the rules we have to follow Iif we want to continue to participate and benefit from society. He knows he has spent so much time in institutions, that he is unable to live within those social constraints).
That ☝ takes a lot of self-awareness, which takes a lot of introspection. Most people don't put the time in to reach such a mentality and, often times, those that try find it hard to believe that they are the only ones that can control how they experince reality and they go back to social behavior without much awareness of their actions or thoughts.
After watching more about this case, it seems clear that Manson and the women being held still.... are now political prisoners. One of the women involved actually got paroled more than once (so, the parole board said she shouldn't be locked up) but... the governor overturned the ruling and she was sent back to jail.
If the jail say "this person is no longer a risk to society" and the jail is a corrections facility where rehabilitation is the goal.... then the jail is saying the person is rehabilitated adequately enough to have earned their freedom. They are more likely to be beneficial to society than harmful.
.....and when a person with no background in law or rehabilitation is elected into a position of political power...and overturns a ruling made by experts... because of _reasons_ .... its more than fair to say that the prisoner is a political prisoner and not jailed because they are a threat. That is, frankly, disgusting.
It's amazing what the media and politicians can do to a person's life. The death penalty is, let's be real here: revenge killing.
The law is what sets the limits for punishment when it comes to crimes. A judge determines, based on the case, the appropriate punishment but they have to remain in the confines of the law. The jury merely says "guilty" or "not guilty". They can recommend a sentence but it's the law and the judge that make that final decision.....
.....except when it comes to the death penalty. That's the only punishment that a jury can and has to impose. People who aren't trained in the law, not trained in the philosophies regarding morality... they are just people.
They don't (cant) have ties to the crime if they are on the jury. Thus, they aren't actually involved in the crime and endured no real suffering due to the crime committed. Yet... its this same group of people that make the choice to have the state revenge kill a criminal. 🤦♂️
If you research it, you will find that a death sentence opens the door to the criminal being set free (they get numerous appeals and if one of those goes poorly, the whole case could be thrown out. it's happened before). It costs the tax payers a ton of money.... but, most importantly, is what you end up learning about the victim's families:
Most regret the sentence (for many reasons), mostly because of the numerous appeals that they have to go through. They worst day of the victim's life being re-lived in court during the initial trial is brutal for the victims and their families. If the death penalty is sentenced, they get to go through that horror at every appeal hearing, wondering 'what if *this* trial is a mistrial and the killer gets off?'
Moreover, if you research it (im saying thay because I want you to not take my word for it and do the research yourself. Without actually considering and learning what the victim's families have said about the experience makes your subjective opinion far less valid) you will find something I found a bit shocking....a lot of the families were either against the sentence *before and during* the trials but their opinions didn't matter. What this means, in reality, this that death penalty cases are not about the families or justice for the victims. Instead, it's all about the state doing what the jury, who represents the state's people in court, want done....regardless of how the victim's families feel. Many families that did support the sentence... said that afterwards, they felt no more closure than before. They, instead, realized that the killer had a family too and now, their family (who didn't do anything wrong) gets to feel the same horrific feeling the victim's families feel.
If your loved one is killed, do you feel like the moral answer is to execute the killer and cause their family to suffer too? Morality, to you, is to spread suffering? ...to treat people, not how you *want to be treated* but *treating them in the same way you've been treated* ...?
That's revenge... not justice. 👍 If that is honestly how you feel, then why not just allow the state the right to let family members of a victim of homicide go out and hunt the killer down themselves. Why not let the family do the revenge killing?
....then, explain to the class why "the state killing a killer" is moral and should be legal but "a gang member killing the person who killed their loved one" is illegal and considered murder? Why is one considered 'justice' while the other is considered 'a gang related hit', aka premeditated murder?
Turns out , a lot of families don't feel so great after having a revenge killing carried out in their 'honor', like they were a mobster's family.
...and when their opinion is ignored, then you literally have a "mob rules" situation. Whatever the mob of people want, the state will do and 'legally' have their hands clean of any wrong doing.
Can you think of another case where a person was killed due to mob mentality? Was that, in your opinion, "justice and the proper way for a functional society to behave"?
good lil essay you wrote there, you seem pretty cool man. Blessings to u n yours
Post is too long
@@arriuscalpurniuspiso avoid books, then 👍 sorry if my paragraphs scared you. 🤣
Long post but I do agree 💯
He's double minded. More knowledge than the average person but has his ideas crossed because od demonic influence.
Rest in heavenly peace Charles.... Guide me please
Moronic
Mk ultra
I've heard talk to that effect.
Most serial killers were victims of that too
@@user-Kova15 difference is unlike the other sick fuckers Charlie didn't kill anyone
Rip to this LEGEND
Well said sir
He'd spent half his life in prison. His mother traded him for a beer when he was a kid. Tiny 5' 2" was easy prey in prison so his hubrus and hyperbole were defense mechanisms.
That is the most accurate description I've heard so far. But, yes, he did have much of a chance at a normal life.
He was a midget ? 😅
This man was not as bad as people make him seem! He was the victim of a lab test.
You believe everything you read on the internet huh
@@l-SlimReaper-I you aren’t an American citizen are you?
@@l-SlimReaper-I no hes just done research, something u obviously dont do
@@l-SlimReaper-Iyou probably still think Osama Bin Laden was behind 9/11😂
Mkultra
I think Charlie was like 5 foot two and about 90 pounds, to think a guy that small had so much power over people bigger than him
This is proof what hard drugs and no affection from family especially Mother could do to a person
PS:Sorry if my english is wrong
He was what the media needed ...
A great man that was never understood!!!
You’re fucking kidding right?
Troll
Exactly 💯
Man said he was so smart that he is stupid that says a lot.
He was a little smarter than average.120 IQ?
If you were in school with him growing up he never would have been the smartest kid in class. He would be a little above the middle.
@@tonybparalegaloh bore off with your IQ crap.
The buck never stopped with him, but some nickels & dimes did.
In some cars with prostitutes.
He really sounds like a cross between a politician and a lawyer.
The real wolf in sheep's clothing...a sorcerer and a shaman
The last sentence, now I know what he means.
He would make some hell of an actor
A real hero ❤
The street is my world
This is a physical architect
People need to stop glorifying him
I know what he means when he says the inner world is the best.
He just ran down his rap sheet. He was tortured all of his adolescent life by the juvenile hall people and it's not surprising that he is who he is.
It sad he was locked up for life for a crime he NEVER FN DID!!!!
@@BerserkersBattle-816right? as if the actual killers aren’t adult enough to take the responsibility for the murders
If that is his rap sheet, he is a moron because there is a glaring lie on it that a paralegal student would spot right away.
He unwittingly included an offense with an automatic 25 year sentence.
Doesn’t really justify him murdering people.
@@TheLunarSurfaceI feel like I'm talking to kids, do you think the person who ordered the murder isn't also going to spend his days in jail? it was the one who ordered the massacre of the actress Sharon Tate and her friends and this in the latter's house in 1969, I doubt that you know this actress and this story since you are still a kid but there you go, I tell you
I was born in the middle of the 90s but this guy is as cool as it gets.
Rip manson
What is messed up if you know this man you know what he's about but he just looks like any other homeless person but I seen a lot of homeless people that are more destruct and this man God bless America
My earliest memories growing up that Manson was on the tv news everyday along with viet nam for years.
Dude killed nobody. They literally rushed through laws to charge him while the trial was already going on. How the fuck are the government allowed to change the rules and move the goal post mid game?
That's a free man right there free on the inside there a charlie in all of us
This ladies and gentlemen is the perfect liar. He lies so easily that even a lie detector wouldn’t catch him. Just because someone is a good liar doesn’t mean they are telling the truth. Be careful of people like this. Watch and observe your surroundings. It could be anyone
True,,he hasent killed anyone
Amen dad miss u
So awesome
Law & Order feared this man's ability of persuasion.
Yes, that's true. They didn't get how that part was possible but it wasn't him, it was him being taught by CIA ppl which didn't come out till much later. Still, after him having this amazing control over these ppl he then made the stupidest legal mistake imaginable.
He thought that if he didnt show up the night of the murders he would be innocent since he didn't physically kill anyone. But PLANNING a murder that actually happens locks you into first-degree murder. He planned multiple murders, created murderers from ppl who had never killed anyone before and cultivated them over time. He put ALL THAT effort into the death of these ppl and thought he would still be innocent. Instead, they were all charged with death sentences that they slipped out of since callifornis was actually repealing it at the time of the trial.
Honestly iv always thought he was putting on a show.. to me he's no big deal at all.. what'd he do besides drugs and live on street. Just giving what the people wanted.
Right. I don't know why but some ppl easily see through most it and some ppl just go completely with his words. When he says "I'll murder you all!" or whatever, Dude! you weigh 100 pounds wet and you've never been athletic at all!" He also gave a lot of drugs away to inmates on a regular basis to leave him alone.
Man is sick! But he is are every day politician
I feel for you charley
Very clever man rip ,, ❤🎉
He is a genius as he said he never killed anyone
120 IQ is nowhere near genuis.
Did he,, himself, believe that NOT KILLING anyone, himself meant NO MURDER CONVICTION???
I have NEVER considered that till right now. If so, this guy was SUCH a MORON. WOW!
FYI, yes, he was EASILY convicted of 7 COUNTS OF MURDER. He could have done MUCH, MUCH less and still been easily within the definition of MURDER.
Aside from the numerous people he ordered to be murdered
@@holeephuck4421hear say
It's true it's true
Even genius doesn’t mean sanity!
Smart man for sure !
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There would b none left ok I get what he saying why would he let anyone live yo listen to that man
What you need to know is in the eye's!
He forgot about running a killer cult, but it’s prob easy to forget that part
You don't need to kill anyone to be convicted of first-degree murder. Manson is mad that he made that mistake.
I can see how people fell under his spell. He isn’t wrong in saying he was thrown away, jailed etc..he found a way to be something. Unfortunately others did his bidding, which was revengeful and evil. He did not to our knowledge kill anyone.
Knew someone whos dad spent a night in a cell with him. He said he was shorter than he thought he'd be, and that his eyes were unsettling to look into.
He literally killed nobody. He said words and got convicted
Funny part is he never killed anyone. He may have ordered it but he never got blood on his hands.
Planning murder is more serious than committing murder.
He is right tho. He DIDNT kill anyone!!
if certain politicians went on trail for there crimes like hes the world might be different
Charlie was just a home town (got big town) guy that did way more harm than good! Love all y’all bunches!
He's most likely in Hell now suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
His hell was on earth brother.
Ain't no hell man. He just does not exist anymore. Whatever 'he' had to experience, he already did here. There's no concept of 'he' anymore, much less suffering.
He didn’t believe in fairytales. His brain might of been fried by drugs, but it’s clear he didn’t buy into that nonsense
This video made me just double check to see that my pistol is in fact within arms reach.
He's alright in my book
I met a guy once who said ge bought weed from Charlie in San Francisco...way back if course.... before he became infamous..😅😅😅
“I dont need to kill anyone, i think it”… i wonder why he felt like masterminding murder wasn’t just as bad.
Okay but with some of the lines he had he would've written great books lmfao
Probably more sane than most today.
Mk ultra he was taught it then used it and they locked him up for it ..yet they painted him a serial killer smh
Over inflation of ego.
Do not let that man out unsupervised
What serious mental health looks like 😮
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If LSD was a person😂