Bathroom Framing & Setting Out. A job for a carpenter
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2021
- Bathroom framing and setting out is a job for a carpenter. As a carpenter I have been involved in so many projects that rely on me as a carpenter to set out and provide the framing and woodwork to make all the fixtures and fittings that a modern bathroom requires. In this video I talk about the process that I do and also make some framing to house some of the components specified
This was Ed's first couple of days work experience with me also!!
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Their complaints department would never get a call except for wrong number!
Followed you for years Robin.
Top bloke and I like your precision.
I'm sick off working with people who think it doesn't matter!
It does, same page brother!
Well said
@@ukconstruction Speaking of precision.....Thank you for giving the imperial measurements. I can't visualise in metric
Nice neat copper pipes. Hats off to your plumber. Love it
Thank you! Cheers!
Probably knew it was being filmed and uploaded lol. Hope he bunged on an extra few quid.
Concealed cisterns and wall hung thrones seem to b all the rage now what we do is to put all the frame panels on split battens makes everything easily accessible for future works (cistern changes or leaks ) having full access to the services r a must I’ve been on other jobs where this hasn’t been done it’s a nightmare if anything goes wrong out of site which it sometimes does ie flush and waste pipe connections ur better off building good access in from the start
We need at least an hours worth of clevett every time please
I’d love to see a RC custom made staircase, like the one Tony did on Build with A&E. It was a fascinating watch.
All the best for 2022 Robin, keep the content coming!
I've made plenty, have a look back through my channel bro
Great video, thanks 😊
Very enjoyable Robin, thanks again for an informative video, Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Thanks Gary, happy Christmas to you and yours too mate!
Great video but could have done with it last week! Literally just finished up my downstairs toilet this weekend with the same frame. Got a local firm to make up some custom MFC panels and I've used hidden button fixings to make the boxing. Really chuffed with it
Very well explained Robin. I understood it - can I come and work with you.😉😀👍 Nice to see someone on top of their game.
good to see all the plumbing done in copper robin. that plastic stuff never looks quite as good i find. nice neat copper work is way better.
Yes it does look nice. Anything hidden no problem with plastic in my opinion though, anything on view or in a cupboard, definitely copper.
Thank you.
Wasn't expecting this video considering all recent videos are about the big build roofing job
I have plenty of other content that I am planning to drop in!!! Cheers Asad for watching
@@ukconstruction I get the change in type of work. I'm an electrician and I love the small in and out jobs.
@@AsadMulla I bet you do....
it would be great to see someone like you robin, do an under stairs toilet conversion and associated works. I cant' find any video anywhere of a decent or thorough job. Ive an asbestos waste pipe that needs removed, and how to get a water supply from the mains into the under stairs closet without lifting the floor?... and upsizing the framing to accomodate a full size door instead of an undersize one thats currently fitted.
I never really liked those wc frames at first but I’ve come round to them. You could say they’re grohes.
You sound hilarious, I wish I knew you.
@@Mas-lx5nc then where’s my upvote? These puns don’t come cheap you know.
They are great up to the point where the cistern splits (leaks) and water is coming out under the floor etc......Happened to me never again once bitten and all that (point to note it wasn't the same make that Robin is using) Ended up getting a normal back to the wall pan with small cistern. Easy to fit easy to maintain and you can see if it leaks....
Hi Robin
Thanks for video. I am just about to install same Grohe unit as yours. Can yo tell me why you sat the Grohe on your frame and not directly fixed into floor? Is it stinger the way you have done it. Thanks Ian
Are you gonna keep on publishing videos on this if not can you please show the finished bathroom please. Would be really nice to see
How thick of ply and tile backer would u recommend for wall hung wc, do you think foam backer board alone would give enough support
I’m hoping to do exactly what you’ve done in my bathroom Robin so this is a really useful video, thanks. Are you planning to do a follow up with things like the best way to build a frame for the bath to sit on?
Hi Rob, I have another video as a follow up from this one and I will publish real soon, we are having a free standing bath on this project so we are not building a framework, all the best mate.
@@ukconstruction thanks Robin looking forward to seeing it. I thought you might have needed a frame for the waste pipe to sit underneath.
@@ukconstruction great work you do, is the follow up video available? Interested to see how it all progressed.
What fixings do you use to put the cos to the wall
So if you want your ground work pipes done properly get a carpenter to do it ,we understand about levels , neat bit of copper work 👍 to the plumber
That looks like the plumbers knew what they were doing. Straight pipe runs, 90º bends. You just know this job will go right.
My plumber and good friend Gary is awesome!!
Hey Robin, it looks like you made that small stud frame with screws. How do you decide when to use nails or screws on a framed body?
Did you batten the whole wall with the bath taps or just the bottom half?
Was suprised not to see the laser being used there.
Next year I was planning to install a power shower and wanted to site all the pipework in the wall, which means chasing the wall out to accommodate all the pipes. However watching this, you built a wooden frame in front of the pipes which attach directly to the wall and the frame covers what you done. What a fantastic idea you have given me. I think I can make it work by building a complete floor to celling frame hiding all the pipework. Should this not workout is there any reason why you can't bury copper pipe into a cemented wall ?
You can do it but consider access. If you get a leak in that pipe it will be a pain to remove the wood and fix but can you imagine that inside the wall?
@@cannontrodder I must admit that I am torn between both ideas but at least I have no plans to start this until next year but its always good to get feedback from others, especially if they are doing this all the time. Thanks for your help, it's very much appreciated. 👍👍👍
@@terencecottington4273 you can get ‘systems’ similar to the WC Robin is using for showers too. The way I see it, it’s easier for you to change things later or if you ever decide to remodel. Plus a perfect flat surface for you to put the waterproof board on for tiling. That’s the great thing about these videos from the likes of Robin, you get to see different ways to do things without having to learn the hard way yourself. Good luck with your project mate!
@@cannontrodder Thanks Neil. I could not agree with you more. It always pay to look at other ideas. Really appreciate you getting back to me. :)
I live in a fairly remote area. Bathroom Reno's are something I do way too many of. Not a fan of doing them but work is work. The difference being I do all the work. I can and do all aspects of the refurbishment but usually draw the line at painting. I can paint and am probably a better painter than Carpenter but don't like doing it. I have only seen one of those frame things in Oz and the customer got it direct from Europe. Still mostly old school in Qld. None of that system stuff.
"still school, not of that system stuff"... Does that mean u shi£ in a bucket in Qld? 😂
Hi Robin one thing I've noticed in your all videos is the timber you use is all perfect it all looks like quality timber do you go to an independent supplier?
I use quite a few suppliers, I am fussy about my timber and I know where to go to find the right material for the right job
Looks like those new Grohe frames are less hassle than the original Geberits....All the silly threaded bar and adjusting nuts that came with those things used to annoy me!
Great video with a stylishly dressed Robin! Fashion model👍👌
Question. I saw the hole for the soil pipe in the wall. I presume the vanity/basin outlet will be in the wall too
What about the shower drain? Will it be below floor level, to keep the shower floor level? Or will be a raised tray? Pl let me know. Thanks in advance
Hi Rajesh, the basin waste will be bossed into the soil pipe further along the run behind the WC, we have removed the screed to enable the shower tray to be at floor level too
@@ukconstruction thanks. Great video. Great outfit!
Is this a room in The Big Build? In any event, “plumb and level”. It looked like the bottom “rail” was fixed directly to the floor (not level). Did you shim or adjust the length of the studs to make the top rail level?
Hi Robert, this is not at the big build, and yes the floor runs out of level and I mentioned that in the video, so we make our frame parallel and square and shim as you suggest, thanks for watching mate
Is that at the Big Build? Thank u!!
Hi Bill, this is on a different job
Firstly. How tall is Ed?! There's a point in the video where compared to you, he's that much taller it almost doesn't look real! (7m15s)
Secondly, great video as always, keep them coming, love seeing how you go about things, especially your attention to detail and forward thinking. Is this Bathroom part of the big build?
He is a giant!!!
'Toilet' is not a forbidden word. W.C. is the room name.
Great video, love your content. Is there a follow on video for this?
How much would u charge for a half height box in with full height shower box in ?
As much as possible!!!
Hello Robin,
Good evening,
It's brilliant video.
I am about to do similar....
Need to replace shower with shower bath but still trying to work out the size. There is limited space.
Wishing you all the best with bathroom project.
Best wishes from Leicester, ENGLAND.
Ahmed
Are you still doing the big build robin ?
Yes mate, just dropping in a few other videos!
@@ukconstruction Nice one Robin 👍👍
In a hundred years or less someone from Historic England may investigate that wall with X-ray or infrared and find your drawings - make sure you sign and date!
7:25 Robin looks tiny next to Ed
I am!!
What were the screws you used for the timber fixing to the wall, they looked like they went straight into the brickwork and plaster?? - love the videos 👍
Concrete screws by the look of them. Fantastic things. Be careful when tightening, they've got some pull on them.
They are absolutely brilliant for levelling up timber studs on uneven walls. Rico is right. Short bursts on the driver. They are monstrously .. er, "grabby"
The fxngs are concrete framing screws.
Where have these been all my life?
@@cannontrodder Screwfix?
Great looking plumbing. However, why in the UK do you persist in leaving irnt exposed as opposed to running it through the walls?
This is a retro fit and there are only solid walls, the walls are what we call clinker blocks and only 75mm deep so you cannot chase them successfully, we would always try to hide pipes if possible
Because our walls are usually solid brick or block.
@07:35 Aint torx screws brill?
Yes mate!!
I hate them but then again people tell me I torx sh!t
@@grrinc Were we separated at birth?
ahhh bathroom renovations.... nothing like it haha, iv done a vid on tricks to install shower trays if anyone is interested 👍
Sounds great!
Very surprised that the tiling was not considered when setting out.
Now it will be best fit, rather than perfect fit.
I guess this is what happens when you have a plumber, a carpenter, s tiler, rather than a bathroom fitter.
We have been working to the window height and the courses of tiles corresponded with that, we do a drawing for the tiler and I am super particular about the final setting out!!
@@ukconstruction When setting out, I would plan tiling, then set out so that basin, wc, bath, wall outlets, etc are centred, or on a grout line. Just makes a good job, even better. 👍
(And yes, I do do this for a living).
Look forward to seeing the finished project
Fifteen years ago I made a fancy bath panel for a client. For some reason, I can't remeber what now, I couldn't get it to fit as crisply as i wanted to. Took me, after a few minor corrections, about two hours. I was beginning to get annoyed and it was a Saturday morning. Guess where the client was? Sitting on the f......g toilet watching me for all that time !! He was , how shall I say....from a country next to India.
When does a Carpenter become a Joiner or a Joiner become a Carpenter?
Thats a great question!! when I studied I was trained as a Carpenter and Joiner, so we spent loads of time on the bench making joinery by hand, then we went into the machine shop and used the machinery to make joinery, then we started the carpentry side, by that time the carpentry came really easy as we have become super accurate in the workshop learning all about the tools how to use them and also setting out correctly, I owe my career to the amazing lecturers that we had back in the late 80's at the North East Surrey College of Technology!!!
@@ukconstruction Sounds familiar !! Great vids, keep them coming. Even for the older guys they are very informative and bring back various memories.
I wouldn’t ask a carpenter. I’d get a joiner to do it.
Where we are joiners generally work in a workshop and it's the carpenters that work on site fitting joinery and doing traditional 1st and 2nd fix work, also I trained as a carpenter and joiner and am completely comfortable doing either role whether it's in the joinery shop or indeed on site, where in the country are you? As I know that carpenters are referred to as joiners in some parts of the UK!!
@@ukconstruction Trying not to be pedantic but the general public tend to use carpenter and carpentry as a cover-all for anybody or thing that that
@@ukconstruction Sorry Robin but I inadvertently sent the message before conclusion. The tendency is to use ‘carpentry’ to cover everything and everyone that works in wood when we know it is far from the case. Cabinet makers are affronted when their work is called carpentry. Tradesmen know there is distinct difference between all three of the main woodworking trades.
@02:40. Advertising cynics. Sod 'em, Robin. However, think I'll revisit George Carlin's "Advertising Lullaby".
Already memorised his "fear of germs" skit. "Sponsored by... Pfizer!"
Punk aint dead! A throwaway comment. Even the silly one's help.
Taxing stuff ……. 🤣
I’m sorry but I have a complaint..
Your videos aren’t long enough!
can i please get a reply, i look up to you 💛
Will my reply do?
Also, how short are you if you have to look up to Robin?
Hi mate, thanks for watching my channel!!!