I met Victor at Willowbank back in 1984/85 when he was running the mainly Black 57 Chevy with the wildbunch, He was a really great Guy to talk too, It's Great to see him again here after all these years, I really miss those days, Bless Ya Vic and thanks for the memories and for taking the time.
Mate im 31yr old today and I still remember like it was yesterday watching the 57 Chevy in 1994 1995 1996 I would stand on the grandstands with my father and just feeling the ground shake for the first time was so addictive and the only man I wanted to see win losse or draw was Victor Bray the G.O.A.T of Australian Drag Racing 100% legend.. love ya mate.. Aussie icon always was always will be
On ya vic . Used to love seeing you at summernats running a muck . Good old aussies . We are a dying breed now . Good to see you still in the game . Go hard or go home i say .
Nice video, great engine room. Gotta love all that billet Hemi hardware. And just like they stressed here, I run all my engines with no oil whatsoever in them.
It's important to look after the sponsor. I've met these boys, had an awesome tour of their workshop, and they are every bit like this and really do use normal off the shelf Castrol Edge. Great video guys.
Very cool stuff. One comment though, I was pretty sure that the 426 Hemi was developed to take on Ford and Chev in Nascar. Ford was kinda dominant at the time with their Holman-Moody prepped Torinos with the Side Oillers and briefly the Cammers, the Hemi was an attempt to gain some Nascar glory. It worked and as you know gained them far more notoriety in your sport in the long run. Buy I've never heard that line that it was built to satisfy the need for more power for cops. As far as I was aware, the 440 Wedge was a VERY popular engine in cop cars for a long time. I think the cops woulda been happy with the torque/hp to cost ratio of the Wedge as well, that Hemi wasn't cheap. I'm gonna look into it further, but I think your telling porky pies Vick!!! lol
I have to correct myself, I suppose Ford may have been racing Galaxy's at the time when the 2nd gen Hemi was conceived. The Torino's were being raced at the later stages of the Hemi Nascar program. It's funny , most people don't realize the Holman Moody Torion's were more successful than both Dodge's and Plymouth's winged cars combined
@@danielbrealey2924 you are correct the Gen 2 426 Hemi was developed to compete in NASCAR, not for Police. Where I think Victor probably got his story all mixed up, is that in 1964 when it was first released it wasn't available to the general public (may have been available to the Police, or not, but not specifically for them). The 426 was not allowed to compete in NASCAR until they made cars available to the general public. So Chrysler made several models to allow it which the public could buy.
Chrysler built the 426 Hemi for NASCAR racing. Don Garlits who use to run a Ford flatty, switched to the 331 Hemi. 392 Hemi which is the grand daddy Nitro Rail engine. Then the 426 Hemi. When Chrysler stopped building in 71 and racers were running out of engine blocks so Keith Black Brad anderson started building them out of billet aluminum. Hemi's were built tough and most motors could handle the cylinder pressure that Nitro provides.
I saw Vic do a few runs in Canberra back in the day (early-mid 90's). Never seen top door or anything before that and that Castrol chev made me go deaf for 10 mins or so. Never heard anything so loud in my life and haven't since. Got me into though and now I just picked a 07 VE Calais with an L98 and 6L80 6 speed box.
Awesome info, would love to meet them one day and ask them what they would do with an AMC 360. I'd love to have it set up with an 8/71 Supercharger, good power but not too high strung, more reliable and last for a long time.
funny that big bore is said to help airflow.true but no one notes that power of cylinder is pressure times surface area.so bigger helps that way a lot too.
I think a lot of fans are unaware how the motor oil used, is also dictated by components and type of motor. On a turbo engine, I have to use race oil. Rember a turbocharger spins over 150,000 rpm so oil choice is critical. Race oil is off the shelf now. Walk into any corner auto parts store and you'll find many of the big names making race oils. Race oil should not carry the GF-4/5/6 classification. This oil does not carry many of the additives used in a daily driver car. A turbocharger needs oil that can handle higher temperatures, and carry a more stable film strength. A race engine has its oil changed much more often than a daily driver so, many additives are not necessary. Brad Penn, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Lucas, and Castrol... are just a few good names that make high-quality race oil. Each type of engine has a different requirement. I am speaking of turbocharged, high rpm race motors.
I assume the "billet" V8 engine shown in this video is the same as used in a Top Alcohol Dragster and a Top Alcohol Funny Car. My understanding is that the Top Alcohol engines are very high revving whereas Top Fuel engines are slower revving.
The 426 hemi was first built for Nascar. Not for police, the same with the cammer. Before Ford could utilize the cammer Nascar outlawed exotic heads because of Dodge's success with the hemi.
I will always remember that flat black crazy 57 that showed up in street and strip and then lit up the burn out strip in Canberra yeah boiy,the greatest mistake a son can do is go in comp with Dad instead of running his own race
I like TBR's strategy; let the public come into the pits, tell them to go down to the local shop & bring back $200 worth of oil at no cost to TBR! If I was a drag racer, I'd do the same thing, but with the money saved by having naysayers buy free oil for me, I would then buy beer for all the other racing opponents, so that they have poor reaction times. And everyone's happy :)
Fuel is measured by gallons per second I believe like 11.7 gallons per second or some shit These things are on the verge of hydro locking at wide open throttle so if spark momentarily cuts out that motor is gonna be in pieces
I am looking forward to the time when drag racing becomes REALLY professional and takes the big step-up to outsource engine and possibly chassis development to companies like MERCEDES/McLAREN FORMULA 1,RENAULT OR FERRARI. Once someone starts doing that,it will be a game changer in this form of motorsport. Times will seriously start coming down.
Drag racing and Formula One are two very different types of motor sport. Both categories are aware of one another's technology. Slick tires were a drag racing invention taken up by circuit racers. Top Fuel dragsters switched to rear engine, center placed cockpits in the early 1970s following the lead for Formula One. Both Top Fuel and Formula One use aerodynamic aids that suit the particular type of vehicles.
You should watch Pete armana he has better setup techniques see if u can do it without pushrods an convert them to dohc lol ;) or is that rule ruled out 😆
Think of them as full h-beams because in this application the size is the strength (they are probably light anyway). A H-beam is known as "H" in a cut view from the top but fill in both voids and you get a HUGE "I-beam"
I met Victor at Willowbank back in 1984/85 when he was running the mainly Black 57 Chevy with the wildbunch, He was a really great Guy to talk too, It's Great to see him again here after all these years, I really miss those days, Bless Ya Vic and thanks for the memories and for taking the time.
Mate im 31yr old today and I still remember like it was yesterday watching the 57 Chevy in 1994 1995 1996 I would stand on the grandstands with my father and just feeling the ground shake for the first time was so addictive and the only man I wanted to see win losse or draw was Victor Bray the G.O.A.T of Australian Drag Racing 100% legend.. love ya mate.. Aussie icon always was always will be
On ya vic . Used to love seeing you at summernats running a muck . Good old aussies . We are a dying breed now . Good to see you still in the game . Go hard or go home i say .
Nice video, great engine room. Gotta love all that billet Hemi hardware.
And just like they stressed here, I run all my engines with no oil whatsoever in them.
It's important to look after the sponsor. I've met these boys, had an awesome tour of their workshop, and they are every bit like this and really do use normal off the shelf Castrol Edge. Great video guys.
Martin Kemp Castrol and Penrite only oils I will buy
mangrove jack Penrite great but I've seen plenty of gummy engines from Castrol oil
Great vid, always love a look inside the Bray Workshop, interesting stuff.
Always has been always will be the greatest of the all ..just a top bloke
Very cool stuff. One comment though, I was pretty sure that the 426 Hemi was developed to take on Ford and Chev in Nascar. Ford was kinda dominant at the time with their Holman-Moody prepped Torinos with the Side Oillers and briefly the Cammers, the Hemi was an attempt to gain some Nascar glory. It worked and as you know gained them far more notoriety in your sport in the long run. Buy I've never heard that line that it was built to satisfy the need for more power for cops. As far as I was aware, the 440 Wedge was a VERY popular engine in cop cars for a long time. I think the cops woulda been happy with the torque/hp to cost ratio of the Wedge as well, that Hemi wasn't cheap. I'm gonna look into it further, but I think your telling porky pies Vick!!! lol
I have to correct myself, I suppose Ford may have been racing Galaxy's at the time when the 2nd gen Hemi was conceived. The Torino's were being raced at the later stages of the Hemi Nascar program. It's funny , most people don't realize the Holman Moody Torion's were more successful than both Dodge's and Plymouth's winged cars combined
@@danielbrealey2924 you are correct the Gen 2 426 Hemi was developed to compete in NASCAR, not for Police. Where I think Victor probably got his story all mixed up, is that in 1964 when it was first released it wasn't available to the general public (may have been available to the Police, or not, but not specifically for them). The 426 was not allowed to compete in NASCAR until they made cars available to the general public. So Chrysler made several models to allow it which the public could buy.
Chrysler built the 426 Hemi for NASCAR racing. Don Garlits who use to run a Ford flatty, switched to the 331 Hemi. 392 Hemi which is the grand daddy Nitro Rail engine. Then the 426 Hemi. When Chrysler stopped building in 71 and racers were running out of engine blocks so Keith Black Brad anderson started building them out of billet aluminum. Hemi's were built tough and most motors could handle the cylinder pressure that Nitro provides.
The KB blocks were not billet. They were cast. I still have 2.
I saw Vic do a few runs in Canberra back in the day (early-mid 90's). Never seen top door or anything before that and that Castrol chev made me go deaf for 10 mins or so. Never heard anything so loud in my life and haven't since. Got me into though and now I just picked a 07 VE Calais with an L98 and 6L80 6 speed box.
Great video! Learned a few things too!
great video good to see all of what your's are into good looking work shop living the dream.
I wonder what kind of oil they use.
Tyler Cooper valvoline
Oil ain’t oils Sole, Valvoline,, if you know what I mean..
I used 20w-50 in mine years ago. Just like they said here, it was Valvoline. Yup.
Easy Going this was a joke about the video being a Castrol advertisement
Baby oil
Awesome info, would love to meet them one day and ask them what they would do with an AMC 360. I'd love to have it set up with an 8/71 Supercharger, good power but not too high strung, more reliable and last for a long time.
you guys are awesome thanks for the video
Great Video.
Thanks for your time
funny that big bore is said to help airflow.true but no one notes that power of cylinder is pressure times surface area.so bigger helps that way a lot too.
Very interesting video
I think a lot of fans are unaware how the motor oil used, is also dictated by components and type of motor. On a turbo engine, I have to use race oil. Rember a turbocharger spins over 150,000 rpm so oil choice is critical. Race oil is off the shelf now. Walk into any corner auto parts store and you'll find many of the big names making race oils. Race oil should not carry the GF-4/5/6 classification. This oil does not carry many of the additives used in a daily driver car. A turbocharger needs oil that can handle higher temperatures, and carry a more stable film strength. A race engine has its oil changed much more often than a daily driver so, many additives are not necessary. Brad Penn, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Lucas, and Castrol... are just a few good names that make high-quality race oil. Each type of engine has a different requirement. I am speaking of turbocharged, high rpm race motors.
Was this an engine shop video or a Castrol commercial? I’m confused now.
Lol 8 minute video on drag racing and raw v8 Hemi power. The rest is a castrol advert.
I assume the "billet" V8 engine shown in this video is the same as used in a Top Alcohol Dragster and a Top Alcohol Funny Car. My understanding is that the Top Alcohol engines are very high revving whereas Top Fuel engines are slower revving.
The 426 hemi was first built for Nascar. Not for police, the same with the cammer. Before Ford could utilize the cammer Nascar outlawed exotic heads because of Dodge's success with the hemi.
that was awesome!!
I will always remember that flat black crazy 57 that showed up in street and strip and then lit up the burn out strip in Canberra yeah boiy,the greatest mistake a son can do is go in comp with Dad instead of running his own race
The big fella looks a hell of a lot different nowadays
I like TBR's strategy; let the public come into the pits, tell them to go down to the local shop & bring back $200 worth of oil at no cost to TBR! If I was a drag racer, I'd do the same thing, but with the money saved by having naysayers buy free oil for me, I would then buy beer for all the other racing opponents, so that they have poor reaction times. And everyone's happy :)
all good but what oil is used ???
How would a flat plane crank do?
Does victor bray remember shippind over a 1964cheve apache from america
What's the no.1 4 cyl in the world then? 4G63 I assume
Is western gulf oil better
Fuel is measured by gallons per second I believe like 11.7 gallons per second or some shit
These things are on the verge of hydro locking at wide open throttle so if spark momentarily cuts out that motor is gonna be in pieces
I am looking forward to the time when drag racing becomes REALLY professional and takes the big step-up to outsource engine and possibly chassis development to companies like MERCEDES/McLAREN FORMULA 1,RENAULT OR FERRARI. Once someone starts doing that,it will be a game changer in this form of motorsport. Times will seriously start coming down.
jimmy mushman lol. What?
Drag racing and Formula One are two very different types of motor sport. Both categories are aware of one another's technology. Slick tires were a drag racing invention taken up by circuit racers. Top Fuel dragsters switched to rear engine, center placed cockpits in the early 1970s following the lead for Formula One. Both Top Fuel and Formula One use aerodynamic aids that suit the particular type of vehicles.
Tin Tops!
I think his story about the hemi being made in 63 is like completely not true at all. Wasn't it designed for racing at first?
So much free Castrol that you would HAVE to run it in everything
He cooks his chips in it
I don't believe for a second someone would go out and spend $200 on oil to prove off the shelf oil is what you actually use
Your RPM limit for your bottom end really hasn't got much to do with "a big thing swinging around there" as much as it is about piston SPEED!!
The advertising is so vulgar...
one jug of oil in each shot....
Castrol Castrol Castrol
castrol castrol castrol castrol castrol castrol castrol castrol castrol castroll what ever happend to steve stanic?
They actually use Walmart Supertech oil; $17.00/5qts.
You should watch Pete armana he has better setup techniques see if u can do it without pushrods an convert them to dohc lol ;) or is that rule ruled out 😆
interesting using i beam rods in over 3000 hp. i thought h beam rods are the best.make me think twice on rods.
Think of them as full h-beams because in this application the size is the strength (they are probably light anyway). A H-beam is known as "H" in a cut view from the top but fill in both voids and you get a HUGE "I-beam"
Lol runs gulf western oil these days
DUH!!!! Castrol25/50w oil.....lol